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Thank you @Troy for opening up this conversation!
My awareness of social justice issues started a very young age, when my mother took me to civil rights marches when I was 4 years old. She's 86 now and if we start talking politics on the phone, it's like a 2 hour can-you-believe it- fest.
While I never dreamed we would come to the place we are now with FF and nazis, I've recently become a little obsessed with WWll (following passions at some point for pretty much every war since the American revolution), sometimes ending up reading books that aren't really *about* the war, but it ends up being a main part of the book. I am fascinated by the stories of heroism, and there are many. And what seems to fuel the heroic actors isn't love for their common man so much as hatred for the nazis. We all owe a lot to that hatred. I almost learned to use a gun in the Bush years, and fantasized much about using it on my oppressors, if the time came. I hope if that time ever comes I will fight, not wait for love to say the day.
Last night I was at a gathering and a woman shared that she thought the eclipse energy would finally allow her to be free of anger and fear. I thought, oh you poor thing...
All that said, I am sick to death of the unrelenting anger and fear I run through my poor body, and living with it is quite a dance.
I am exhausted so I won't read any of the responses to Troy's perspective, and this is my opinion.
I notice that people who have multiple social priveleges in this lifetime can be very quick to judge and condemn, to silence those who are having fight to win, or maintain, their current socially agreed to human social financial and legal rights.
If if you are granted basic human social financial and legal rights protected in the culture in which you live, you often have no time/understanding/tolerance/empathy, for your fellow human beings who are having to resist being circumscribed to a reduced and compromised version of their human potential. Those whose basic social financial and legal human rights are not protected are having to overwork to ensure that they (insert any multiple of the basic human needs) have food, a safe place to sleep and live, have money to pay for their safe space to live, have a job, have medical care when they need...
Having to work harder to ensure security (to whichever level one can attain/maintain) in meeting essential human needs maintenance, is tiring. First of all, the dominant white conservative right wing Christian heterosexual Male Priveleged young soul paradigm sees anyone who is not in any of these groups as silent, invisible, and as the Other. They are othered.
In compensation, to redress the lack that the Others experience, the strategy of the Other is to do something to ensure that their human needs can have a chance of being met, things that the dominant group may not have to concern themselves with. To ensure that the Others needs can be met, to survive, hey perhaps even thrive, the Others demand their place at the table, at every table where they are refused a seat to sit. They agitate, they assert their right for inclusion as citizens and stewards of planet earth, which means that the dominant group overcome their entitlement and greed complex, and share, and include a greater more diverse group of people as their family, in the sense that the definition of who is family is increasing and expanding, a recognition that more diverse people qualify as having human rights. The Others are not peaceful because of intersecting social injustices, which keep their human needs as a percentage that is recognised and satisfied as just below momentum level, at an economy of scale that isn't enough in any regard. When the social injustices intersect to keep groups of humans poor uneducated unsheltered unfed unhappy, agitation and anger and hatred exist in varying ratios in line with level of human need being met or neglected.
Anger is a motivator, it can serve to galvanise solidarity in critical numbers for disenfranchised groups to effective ends. I am frequently angered by ignorance and arrogance in fascists. I have no qualms in punching Nazis. I will defend myself and others who are on the receiving end of discrimination and hatred. I won't turn the other cheek, for them to pistol whip no bitchslap. I will undo them first before they undo me. Understanding why I am moved to act in equallyviolent ways if I meet with violence is my issue. I do not look for opportunities to hurt anyone, but I do look for opportunities to redress systemic injustice, and for me, fighting against an urge to avenge a slight is an exercise in self discipline.the degree of offence is most of the time the only variable. I guess that I really enjoy seeing fascists take their own medicine, not only from a point of satisfying my revenge problem, but more because I know that hypocrites and bigots coming face to face with their worst nightmares are the best quickest most effective way for a bigot to learn their lesson. I am all for quite brutal honesty, not to be cruel, but to accept the fact that the wound is infected and real, and your options are only one. Live or die 😁 Much glee ...
teaching fascists the natural consequences of their bigotry, and eating popcorn when the begging starts. Good times.
@Maureen, thank you, I was just about to say anger often helps to see/set one's boundaries.
Anger, when it has built up over time and has been unexpressed, can feel quite consuming, but once you have found your core, you can see how every time you feel anger, there are also so many other feelings involved, or hidden underneath. When someone crosses your boundaries, you feel anger because your borders have been violated, so essentially you feel angry way because... you love yourself!
As long as you are not consumed by those feelings then I don't see a problem. I think those feelings can be used constructively but I do not think they are sustainable as fuel. I've always been very cautious around angry people because very rarely do I see someone use it constructively. The only times I experience it are in brief instances that return me to my sense of power in my life and my choices when I feel they have been taken from me. But I much prefer the calm collected route. It allows clearer problem solving and thinking. You can stand up for someone without biting their head off and you can defend someone without blind rage. I'm just wary of it because too often the ends justify the means for those who fuel themselves with it. And when that happens innocents get hurt. Fearful anger can be a very destructive force, especially when the underlying cause is self-preservation. I trust anger but am wary of the way people use it. My whole childhood was spent around a very angry parent who would flip into that craze at the drop of a hat, berating and condemning your life making you feel like you are the worst person in the world and that everything was your fault. When it comes to anger I would be careful with things like revenge or getting-even. Rarely does any real good come from it. But this is also coming from a straight white guy so I do not and problem will not ever experience the amount of oppression many groups face and just how powerless that oppression makes you feel. I would just be very careful to not blindly follow that feeling.
What I have been struggling with for decades is: how to remain non-violent in the face of violence as well as when anger, fear and hate arise. What I have come to realize today through this discussion is that violence is not the same thing as anger, fear and hate, and does not have to be the inevitable outcome of anger, fear or hate.
As @Maureen said in the Michael quote above:
Connecting a lot of dots today! I love you, TLE!