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  1. Note from Janet: This is a list of types of Grand Cycle experiences described in TLE sessions. The list was created in June 2016 so it would not have any cycles discovered since that time. I will try to update it as I find new info. Please note that some sessions may not yet be posted on eTLE. Types of species reported in Grand Cycle sessions Arcturians (predecessor sentience, not the current Arcturians) (MikeC #8) Bacteria (Daniel #1) Bird-like creatures, bipedal, sang to communicate (Oscar #7, Diane #7) Burrowing magnetic discs (Susan #5) Cetacean-like but with flight (Trisan #7) Eel-like (Jean #2) Electrical currents (Susan #2) Electromagnetic globular plasma (Oscar #4 and Geraldine #4) Etheric/gossamer, related to later Lemurians (Susan #1, Tristan #6) Ewok-like (Oscar #2, Diane #4, Tristan #4) Fairy-like with eyes like flies (Geraldine #2) Fire bodies (Janet #1) Firefly-like (Oscar #3) Humanoid cross with insect (Maureen #3) Humanoid permanently space-traveling (Tristan #9) Humanoids similar to humans (description sounds similar to Arcturians, above) (Susan #8) Insectoid (praying mantis?) on tiny planet (Tristan #2, Susan #3) Instrument-like, time-based, produced sound (Maureen #5) Lab-created humanoid/insectoid (like Praying Mantis) (Oscar #8, Diane #8) Lava-like, silicon based -- inhabited Earth before current Sentience arrived (Susan #4) Lizard-like. bipedal, communicated via color and color emissions (Toni #2) Microorganism, symbiotic (MikeC #1) Microscopic -- like atoms, electrons, etc. (Jean #1) Planetary body (Oscar #1) Plant, immobile (Geraldine #1) (Tristan #3) Rabbit/kangaroo but much larger (Oscar #5) Rubbery beings shaped by thoughts (Susan #7, Tristan #5) Sandworm (like Dune) (Eric #1) Slugs, giant (like Jabba the Hut) (Toni #1) Snake-like, some flying (Susan #6) Squid-like but not water bound (Martha #2) Starfish-like (Diane #2) Toads, giant bipedal (Oscar #6) Tree-dwelling humanoids along with large amphibian species that were symbiotic -- most Michael students shared together (Susan #9, MikeC #9) Tree-dwelling humanoids along with reptilian species (Tristan #8) (same as above?) Walking sticks, living symbiotically with tree-like plants (Diane #3, Eric #2) Water-bound bioelectric (similar to The Abyss) (Martha #1, Diane #1) Wavelengths/visible colors (Geraldine #3, Tristan #1)
  2. [Originally posted 4th Jan 2013 in a forum discussion on nTLE:] Jana: Please correct me if I am wrong: Each grand cycle takes place on a different planet (typically) and as different species. Troy: On an individual level, our Grand Cycles do tend to move into different planets and species, but that's not a rule.
  3. Grand Cycles Are "Endless"

    [Originally posted 4th Jan 2013 in a forum discussion on nTLE:] Jana: Please correct me if I am wrong: Grand cycles are endless, i.e. they can go on and on ad infinitum (although not every consciousness commits to them) Troy: As far as I know, Grand Cycles are "endless," though probably only from our perspective. I imagine there may be some finite "end" to all of it, but for all intents and purposes, it is "endless." Recently, with all of the discussion and exploration of Grand Cycles, a term "Grand Soul Age" has come up, referring to the number of Grand Cycles. That makes me think there must be more to how these work on a greater scale for Essence.
  4. July 1, 2007 Troy Tolley, Channel MICHAEL SPEAKS Online [Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. As Troy has already received the Energy Report for our students, we will immediately open the floor to questions from you. You may begin. [Pathfinder] I wanted to follow up on the Nile incarnations. One of the therapies I’ve studied deeply is called Shen and I feel it comes from that same time frame in Egypt. In this life, there have been strifes with “founder” Richard Pavek and teachers veering off into Kairos etc, and it feels as if we are working through some leftovers from the Egypt and later times. Can you tell us more of this? [Michael Entity] In your particular case there is a nonet Configuration at work on a larger task of refining a method of healing. The stage in which your Configuration is presently is within the Corruption phase, bringing with it a bit of challenge and rift, but it is merely a part of the very process of refinement. This Configuration began in Egypt during the time you refer to as the “Nile incarnations.” The Corruption phase always feels threatening to those involved with a evolutionary process, but if the focus is held, the benefit of this so-called corruption will find clarity. It is true that what you call “Shen” is related to origins during the same lifetimes that created your Configuration. [liiona24] Hello Michael, I don’t ever remember reading anything about how many grand cycles you, the Michael Entity, have had. (Or would it be a range of number of grand cycles of fragments that are part of your entity?) Also if there is a maximum number of grand cycles we can go through? If this has been answered somewhere I apologize for the repeat question. I have not ever run across it. [Michael Entity] The average Grand Cycle among the members of our Entity are 13. Each fragment has its own number of Grand Cycles. There is no need to apologize for asking a question that may have been asked of is previously. We do not lose our ability to answer when repeat questions are asked from among our students, and much of what we teach IS repeated repeatedly. There is no maximum Grand Cycle that a fragment can have experienced, though the greatest number we know of is 102. It should be noted that it would be more accurate to refer to the consciousness involved in experiencing a Grand Cycle as being a SPARK, rather than a fragment. [Upst8] Sometime ago, there was mention of the USA running a parallel course with the ancient Roman Roman civilization. Is the USA still on this course, and if so, where are we in the timeline with the Roman time era? (Been watching the HBO series of Rome, with interest) [Michael Entity] Yes, this parallel course is still in effect and details of this were shared in a fairly recent chat with our students. Troy will include those details in the final copy of this transcript. [Upst8] oh, must have missed that one, thank you [Michael Entity] We can easily repeat, as mentioned in our previous response to Marion, the response here, however: We will allow for the final transcript to have the elaboration, but we see the timeline as being “parallel” to the final days of disastrous invasion choices. INCLUDED EXCERPT from Michael Speaks 2007-02-05: We would state that you are still on parallel with this time period, though moving beyond into its finale with parallels to the disastrous invasion choices. These “parallels” are not literal, but global conscious experiences that become patterns among those participating. This allows for certain scenarios to be played out “again,” but with a rearrangement of characters/fragments playing roles within those similar scenarios. In other words, there will be “other Abraham Lincolns,” other “Hitlers,” etc. But these are not prescribed or predestined; they are created by collective choices. There are layers of these parallels to consider, as well, since there are layers of collective un/consciousness. For instance, your world is also paralleling the progression of Atlantis. Much of these repetitive cycles are in place for your species as a result of the burning of the Alexandrian libraries, wherein all collected knowledge that had been gained as a species (which far exceeds what is shared among your species now) was lost; reset. The “repeating of history” helps to regain that knowledge as a species, much in the same way that a child who is an Old Soul must still “re-grow up” in each lifetime as a means to regain his potential consciousness. END EXCERPT [rvolkman] Hi Michael and Troy – Ron here – I’m a Warrior but I have a discarnate Scholar ET. Sometimes it feels like there is a “voice” inside that continually wants to describe how “things work”. Sometimes this is handy, but other times it is tedious. Can a discarnate ET have direct influence on us to the point where they may actually seem to speak through us or appear to be a part of our physical personality? [Michael Entity] The only way any other fragment can have such an influence upon you is through your choice to have it be so. Often this influence is invited because of the many benefits, but it does often come with unexpected annoyances and distractions, as well. Imagine the joy of falling in love and truly inviting that person to share your life and your space, but eventually finding a great deal of differences that encourage compromise, tolerance, or acceptance. The same could be said of fragments sharing the same space, time, and energy for conscious interaction. In your case, yes, it is the influence of the Scholar, as there have been lives in the past when your Essence’s Personality noted how much more insight could be had if there was a greater understanding of the dynamics of things observed. This is your first life experimenting with the access to your Scholar Essence Twin for this very purpose. The Scholar, not being physical at this time, is all-too-eager to offer those insights as this Essence literally loves the physical plane and its workings, mysteries. [Cyprus] This is sort of a personal question, but I am sure I am not the only on that this happens to, so I thought it could benefit others as well. I have been feeling very overwhelmed lately. I feel as if I am either on high or completely off. I am much more comfortable in a sort of middle area, I can't find any balance. No matter what I seem to do I can't seem to get there. Please advise. [Michael Entity] The Energy Report will most likely address this issue as your month of July moves into the exploration of the ATTITUDE and the Attitude this year is what we have described as REALIST. For those who are not familiar with the energy of Realism, which you are not, then this energy can feel overwhelming and even a bit painful. In addition to this, the examination over the month of July appears to us to be a deep examination of SELF and what is true about you at this point in your life. This, in itself, can be painful, as what we will call “stuff” comes to the surface for examination that is not particularly enjoyable. Without understanding that this wave of energy is moving through, especially for one who resist Realism, the energy can feel like a constant electrical current that simply will not stop. When there are breaks in the flow, then the body feels inclined to withdraw into sleep as respite before the next current begins. Understanding that this energy is simply available for WHEN YOU WISH TO USE IT, then you can find appropriate ways to ground what is not used. In your case, the use of the energy could best be used to address your anxiety over your changes in work and geographic locations/commute. You really do not like changes of this sort, so it would do you well to grasp that your participation in the change is one of CHOICE, not imposition, and that it is okay. When you wish not to have the energy current affecting you, a shower can help dissipate it, but you also have the ability to simply use your consciousness to state that “this is not my energy,” and give it a few moments to fall back to the earth. We will also say that part of the “stuff” that will come up for you, and part of the energy current that runs through you now, is related to the extended emotional experience during Troy's battle with his illness and your inability to be within his presence. You have not fully “forgiven” yourself for this (which is not a necessary act), but you are carrying the jumble of energy until you have contact with Troy. This will do no good for either of you, so it is Good Work to dissipate it as you can. [Pathfinder] I want to follow up on the earlier “Shen” question – what is a nonet Configuration? Are we a specific number? with different roles/tasks? spread across the globe? about to come together in one place? [Michael Entity] A Nonet is a Configuration of NINE. A Configuration consists of various Roles and while each fragment remains with his or her own Life Task, it usually dovetails in some way with the Task of the Configuration. It is not required that any of the fragments within a Configuration have contact, or even know each other within the lifetime. Your Configuration is not about to gather and is spread fairly globally. Troy will include an excerpt in the final transcript describing in further detail the workings of a Configuration. [See Michael Speaks -- Configurations for the referenced session.] [butterfly syndicate] Thanks! Ok, I was wondering whether Europe or the EU as a body are likely to remain democratic considering the laws that have been passed recently in GB for instance and Germany. Are we following the US in their “Roman parallel” path? [Michael Entity] Ironically, the European countries are moving more and more toward the more restrictive aspects of what the U.S. has implemented for so long, while the U.S. is heading for a collapse of this very system that simply will not work any longer in a Mature Soul world. As the U.S. regains its footing in the world as a leader, it will only be done through a shift completely from Young Soul values into Mature Soul reality. However, many European countries are now attracting a massive wave of Young and Baby Souls who wish to “get away from” the movement of the Mature Soul. Mature and Older souls are migrating to the United States as the collapse is very enticing to the Mature drama, as well as exciting prospect of rebuilding a nation with more progressive values that actually work. European countries are currently finding politicians and movements taking a direction that is to cater to the influx of Younger and Baby Souls coming over the next 50 years. Although Europe has been fairly conservative anyway, the conservative stance was more out of an interest in preserving the freedoms of various peoples, but the conservatism that is moving in now will be more about the imposition of values defined by specific groups. We will conclude our interaction. We will say goodnight here: Goodnight.
  5. Michael Speaks Live Chat Sunday, November 13, 2011 Troy Tolley, Channel The 7 Planes of Existence MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here now. We will share with you on the requested topic: The 7 Planes of Existence. We know that most of you are familiar with the 7 Planes as they have been described in our teaching, and are familiar to many teachings, even if in slight variation and understanding. Those 7 Planes are: Physical, Astral, Causal, Akashic, Mental, Messianic, and Buddhic (or Buddhaic). Each Plane is a Plane of Existence, and is a definite medium for consciousness to explore, learn, and evolve. These Planes exist one within the other, and overlap to some extent, with the Physical Plane being "in the center" and the densest, and the Buddhic being the outermost existence that permeates all Planes within it. It is often easier to imagine this as spheres within spheres. All 7 of these Planes ARE Tao. It is often described as Tao encompassing these 7 Planes, and that would be fair to say, but technically, Tao IS those 7 Planes. The whole that is greater than the sum of the parts, if you will. As you will see from our sharing of details about these Planes and their design, there will be a micro and macrocosmic consistency. Keep in mind that when we use the term "consciousness," it is often inclusive of all forms of consciousness, and not specific to Sentience. In other words, consciousness exists in a multitude of forms in your Physical Plane and in other planes. Rocks have a form of consciousness that is just as valid as Sentience. There are many lines of evolution of consciousness, and not all of them are Sentient. The greatest difference between Sentient and non-sentient consciousness is in terms of the extent of fragmentation and "direction" that the consciousness is actively moving. Sentience tends to be the most individualized of consciousness (most fragmented), generating within that consciousness a profound desire for return to Tao, or Oneness. Therefore, Sentient Consciousness is "on its way back" to Tao, and most other forms of non-sentient consciousness do not require such passages; non-sentience can be "absorbed" immediately back into Tao, if you will, and does not necessarily evolve. Sentience evolves. In other words, Sentience is the furthest and farthest one can get from Tao in terms of fragmentation. The return "home," then, for Sentience, is a long journey by most standards of measurement. Passage through these Planes of Existence are passages of reunion and union. It could be said, then, that the 7 Planes are the 7 Levels of Tao, as Tao evolves in its own way precisely through the collection of experiences gained through these fragments. Once one has become a Fragment, regardless of the return to Tao and the profound oneness that this entails, that unit of consciousness is its own thing "forever." Drops of water in an ocean who leave no boundaries between themselves and ocean, or each other, but existing as an identifiable unit of consciousness now. This is how "Grand Cycles" can happen. A Grand Cycle is a single journey of separation from Tao, incarnation through a species, and the subsequent return through the 7 Planes. Though we would have a difficult time describing this in terms of physics, each Plane is merely a variation of vibration of energy that is consistent among all Planes. Because of its vibrational state, it is "separate" enough that it exists as its own state. This would be similar to how ice, water, and steam could exist as the same, but different. For simplicity's sake, we can say that all Planes are made of Matter (Energy), and each Plane is a variation on Matter. The combination of what might be akin to molecules and how they function with one another generates each Plane. And differentiates each Plane. The consistency among all Planes is based on a set of physics that is reflected in the Physical Plane in many ways. Though there are a few places from which we could start, we will use your Carbon-base as the model. We will return to this reference to Carbon in a moment. First, we will state that every Planet has its own Physical, Astral, and Causal Plane. Particularly if there is Sentience evolving on that planet. Those Planes are variations on a theme, and each is mapped similarly. For the most part, these Ordinal Planes are themed in Densities, Tangibilities, and Identities. That is an oversimplification, but it is accurate. The Physical Plane is these themes in terms of Actions. The Astral is these themes in terms of Emotions. The Causal is these themes in terms of Intellect. The Akashic Plane is not a Plane in which any consciousness resides, but is a memory bank. Rather than passing through this Plane, it is central to both the Causal and Mental Planes' use for evolution. It could be said to be the ordinal version of Tao. The Mental Plane expands to encompass what we will describe as a Galaxy. A Galaxy would be a collection of 49 Planets of Sentience in proximity. The Messianic Plane expands to encompass what we will describe as a Galaxy Group, or 49 Galaxies that house Sentience. The Buddhic Plane is relative to a Galaxy Cluster, or 49 Galaxy Groups. Tao, then, could be said to be the Cosmos, or the manifest Universe. From what we have learned, there are boundaries on our Universe, as there are other Universes. We use "Universe" here in the sense of organized Planes for Sentient development, and not whimsically referencing different parallels or emotional perceptions. This is literal. We know that each Universe must be a closed "space," if you will, as the patterns that are generated indicate interference patterns, indicating reflection. The patterns are far too consistent not to indicate this, as far as we can see. Returning to Carbon as the building block, not only are forms within the Physical Plane relevant to the building blocks of Carbon, but so are all forms of consciousness born of, or returning to Tao through, Carbon. Much of our own Teaching reflects this, as we use the dodecaphonic scale, which is a musical counterpart of Carbon, for most aspects of our teaching. Our systems of 12, 7, and 9 (which are still systems of 12) are related to this dodecaphonic/carbon scale/ratio, and while there is not an obvious element of 5 in our teaching, it is built in on many levels, which we can expound upon at another time. For now, we will reference the 5 Soul Ages before cycling off, and what we refer to as Clusters (of lives) that are in groups of 5. These numbers will be relevant for building upon. We can return to them in further explorations with us. For now, we will return to the details of the Planes. The 7 Levels of the Physical Plane are the 7 Soul Ages: 5 of which are done before cycling off, and two of which are completed by returning as a reunited entity, and as a representative of Tao. All fragments will move through those 7 Levels of the Physical Plane (7 Soul Ages). There are 7 Levels of the Astral Plane, as well. As every Plane bleeds through, so to speak, to each bordering Plane, the 1st Level of the Astral could be said to be the Level of Imagination. This is from where each fragment accesses Imagination. At its best use, it is what you are familiar with in terms of "imagination," but it is also where those who induce altered states through drugs can tend to go, as well as where troubled Personalities can often bleed into, and where suicides are processed, and from where hauntings are sustained. It is the Level from which "heaven" and "hell" are generated, and other such nonsense. The 2nd Level of the Astral is where most go between lives, and when dreaming. The 3rd Level is where one resides when cycled off. It is also the level in which one will complete any Karma that did not require Physical incarnation. The Mid-Astral or 4th Level is what is accessed between lives by fragments as a means for planning and studying and review. Even if one is on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Levels, this 4th is accessed in ever more refined ways for the evolution of the Essence, and creation of a life. It is also from which one's guides tend to reside, and where your partially-reunited entity resides. Even if your guide is not cycled off, if acting as a guide, it is functioning through the use of this Level. Or, at least, trying to. The 5th Level is one of Comprehension, and it is where your Entity members work through full disclosure. Everything that was never known, kept secret, private, personal, for any Personality is now brought forth as the entity prepares for reunion. This is a chaotic and quite emotional process. The 6th Level is the Healing, or the actual Reunion process. Though the more chaotic aspects of reunion have been processed, this can actually be even more painful. The 7th Level then is the full union of the Entity, in terms of its Emotional intimacy. The 5th, 6th, and 7th Levels are the only levels that are free from living counterparts, or incarnating fragments. The first three can be accessed fairly easily by Personalities from the Physical Plane. The Causal Plane also has 7 Levels, but these become more difficult to clarify in terms that are easy to convey, as the linear aspect begins to break down, even as it does not. The Lower, or Ordinal, Causal Plane could be said to be a process of refining our ideas and ideals. Now that we have united emotionally, we then build a new identity from that. Though "identity" is a crude term in the context of the Causal Plane, it is still valid. This is because, even as we speak as one, we are well aware of our parts, and our differentiation from other entities on our Plane. We still experience a passage of time and space, though in vastly different ways from what is familiar to the Physical Plane, but still a passage, nonetheless. Over the course of the first three Levels, entities take different lines of evolution that are in groups: some of which are Guides, some of which are Teachers, some of which are Healers, some of which are Muses, and so on. We chose to Teach. The 4th Level, then, is from where every Entity of the Causal will put into effect its ideas and ideals, through Guiding, Teaching, Healing, Musing, etc. From this Level, we begin our direct access of the Akashic Plane. The Akashic exists within every Plane in some form. Even within the Physical Plane, the Instinctive Center is a line to the Akashic Plane, or a part of it. The high Causal Plane, then, is from where Transcendental Souls incarnate, or the 6th Soul Age. Transcendental Souls incarnate from the 5th, 6th, or 7th Levels of the Causal. Keep in mind that a Transcendental Soul is a single fragment incarnated as a representative of the collective knowledge of the Entity from the Causal. This incarnation is still subject to all of the scathing, distractions, and problems of being Human, however, but will have the entire Entity as direct support, if the Personality allows for it. There are many Transcendental Souls who incarnate who fail in that respect, though they certainly "have a good time." The Mental Plane is the exalted Causal Plane, where direct Intellectual contact is made with Tao. The Messianic Plane is the exalted Astral Plane, where direct Emotional contact is made with Tao. The Buddhic Plane is the exalted Physical Plane, where direct contact is made with Tao, or merging. Infinite Souls incarnate from one of these Planes, when incarnated, and bring the Logos of Truth, Love, or Energy, respectively. There are 7 Levels within each of these, but they are even more difficult to convey in any linear terms than the Causal Plane's Levels. It is easier to understand them in terms of Lower, Mid, and Higher. The Lower tend to be about introductions to that Plane, and a refining of focus, with the mid-plane being the implementation of that focus, and the higher being the comprehension of the results of all of that. We will pause now for your questions on this subject. We know this is a vast subject that can be difficult to package, but it is a subject that is relevant and can be comprehended. Question: How “fine” does this get -- Do the 7 Levels of each Soul Age relate in any way to the 7 Levels of Existence? MEntity: They are, all, related in some resonant way, or they could not build upon each other. It is all music. The 7 Internal Monads within the 7 Levels within the 7 Soul Ages within the 7 Planes. The 7 Levels of a Soul Age, can be understood when superimposing the 7 Planes as ways to understand those Levels. Comparing the Physical Plane to the 1st Level of a Soul Age can be helpful. Comparing the Astral Plane to the 2nd Level can be helpful. Comparing the Causal to the 3rd Level can be helpful. And so on. Keep in mind that there will be resonance, but not definition. In other words, clues and insights can be gained through these comparisons, but Soul Level is very different from Age, and Plane. Our system is designed for "mixing and matching" as a means to gain more insight. Question: Not to put too fine a point on the terminology that was developed today, but I would like a reiteration or confirmation that the use of the terms by you of Galaxy, Galaxy Cluster, or Tao as a Universe has little in common with our scientific astrophysics use of these terms and that further the use of Tao isn't equivalent to “All that is.” MEntity: There are some correlations. We think that some Astrophysicists are onto something in terms of organizing the universe. Consciousness equals Gravitation, to some extent. Consciousness is the gravitational force that holds together matter. Galaxies are grouped and clustered in terms of gravity and consciousness, and this is parallel to some working theories or observations. Comment: Except you define these by groups of 49 MEntity: So while we are not drawing direct parallels to the more mundane use of these terms, there are some similarities that are relevant. We think that some Astrophysicists choose the same number. Though we do not think it has become a standard. Question: So would our "Big Bang Theory" be an oversimplification of the Buddhaic Plane in action and is the theory even close to being accurate? MEntity: It is quite close, at least in terms of the fragmentation that then moved into forms. Though there are scientific details that will always be lacking in terms of describing or defining these origins, it works very well in symbolic ways. Question: How are suicides processed on the 1st level astral, and where do they go from there? [note corrected from 2nd Level to 1st Level] MEntity: They are processed in a multitude of ways that would be similar to experiencing dreams that play out all varieties of scenarios that help to comprehend the process of choices that led to the death, as well as an observation of all of the parallels remaining that are not dead. The Astral Plane is very similar to "Earth," or the Physical Plane, and feels very "real" on many levels, though it is far more malleable in terms of matter. Many who experience suicide then will start the entire life over on the Astral, playing out new choices. We designated Suicides to the 1st Level, but all fragments incarnating will move among the first three Levels during and between lives. Lives that do not end in Suicide tend to move directly into the 2nd, while Suicides tend to move into the 1st. Question: can they get stuck there, as well? MEntity: This is because of the attachment to the life. No fragment is ever "stuck," but depending upon the processes necessary for that Personality to heal, it can take quite some time. The reason for those who have exited using Suicide tending to remain in the 1st Level is because that is the easiest for those who were a part of that life, and who remain incarnated, to access that person. This helps contribute to the healing. Once the healing begins, the replaying of the life begins. This is a subject in itself, but that is the basic idea. Question: At 5th level Astral, is the anguish experienced more by the individual fragments as they are laid "naked and exposed" to the other members of the Entity, or by the other members of the Entity as they learn all there is to know of everyone else? Are there still harsh judgments to overcome at that stage of evolution? Also, it has been said that Priests "come into their own" on the Astral. Does this usually occur at this stage, helping themselves and others through the difficult 5th level and then healing in the 6th level? MEntity: The difficulty is experienced in both ways. It can be quite terrifying and painful to have everything revealed, and just as terrifying and painful to learn what one did not know while alive. This is especially difficult for those Personalities who were incarnations during the Baby and Young. The Mature and Old Souls eventually lose the interest in dishonesty, secrets, and privacy. The Personalities of Essence who were the most honest, vulnerable, and comfortable with exposure tend to work with those younger Personalities in resolving the shocking revelations. Every Personality of every lifetime is represented as its own identity and speaks for itself, so to speak. Comment: I wonder if this is then repeated at each merge after that MEntity: What you might experience as great halls are used for these processes, with all of the Personalities organized into tiers of emotional honesty for then working with mediating among all of those who had the most difficult times with those qualities. Comment: this sounds as much an intra-Essence process as inter-Essence. MEntity: It is often quite upsetting to find out that "best friend sally" had been exploiting you for access to your "loving husband bill" and that you knew none for the better. But all of you will know "everything" at some point. None of this is Karmic, but entirely focused on healing. In terms of Priests, they are the fragments who run these meetings, and help to direct the healing, as they tend to have the greatest extremes of Personalities that range between manipulatively dishonest and painfully honest. Priests quite often have a theme of "knowing what is good for you," or "the highest good," and doing whatever it takes to impose that. Every Role has a part in the processes of the Higher Astral, but it is organized and directed by the Priests. Question: How and in what form is the information on the Akashic Plane stored and accessed, and is there a way for us to visualize it? MEntity: We do not know how to describe this, but we can try to describe it in relative terms: We would have to say that it is database that is like an ocean of light that has no form until directly accessed. The closest we can come to describing this to you is in how your own imagination works. Your imagination gives rise to form from an ocean of light, if you will. However, Imagination is not information, and it is emotional. The Akashic Plane behaves in a similar way to imagination, except that it is in response to Thought. That is why it is such a tedious process for learning to access and interpret the data, because if any element of emotion is involved, the data is "tainted" or distorted with imagination, and is not pure information. In much the same way that the Physical Plane must be transcended while diving into the utter profundity of emotions in the Astral, so must the Emotional Plane be transcended while diving into the utter profundity of intellect in the Causal. It is not that one is better or worse than the other, but simply different processes of focus and experience. The way it works for us is that each of you have a "room" here that is your personal part of the Akashic. When we work with you in a way that requires our accessing this, we open that room and it reveals to us the details necessary for us to respond to your questions. Those details are revealed to us in two ways: your way, and our way. We get to see the data in your terms, first, which is often rich with emotional elements. We must then strip the emotional embellishments away from that data to get the most refined and accurate responses delivered to you. The more emotional your questions, the more difficult that process is. This is why your questions about relationships and mate agreements and other desired, longed for, craved, grieved, etc. can be difficult for us to deliver clearly to you. Add to that the fact that as soon as data includes another fragment and his or her data, we have to double the work of that process. Of course, that description is not as complicated as our description sounds, but it is a fair description. On the most basic levels, we can say this: The Akashic Plane of a fragment (instinctive center) or of an entire Universe are simply interfaces for recording, accessing, and interpreting all of the variations on the interference patterns that exist. The actual medium is the medium, itself. Question: Is it possible for higher plane teachers to physically, suddenly manifest without being born on the physical plane? Or is that a myth? MEntity: We have never heard of such a thing. That is not to say that they cannot "appear," but this would be generated from through the lower astral, or the Imagination, and can be just as effective. Question: So if consciousness is the gravitational force that holds matter together, what is it that pushes them apart? Astrophysicists have deemed this "dark energy" and "dark matter" in that it is so dark and non-interacting that we don't know anything about it. What is your interpretation of this? MEntity: We must first say that the concept of "dark matter" will eventually be replaced with better terminology and understanding, as it is found to be far more active than suspected. For the sake of working with current terminology and understanding, we will say that it could be said to be the unconscious. Not the subconscious, but the unconscious. And by "unconscious," we simply mean the unformed, and the medium from which form is formed. Question: like unrealized potential energy? MEntity: And realized. It is a resource. Question: In what ways and what type of karma can be resolved on the third level astral that do not require a physical plane experience? MEntity: Any Karma that did not require a body. A Physical Body, that is. Question: and what would that be? MEntity: Mind Fucking, Betrayal, Emotional Abandonment or Neglect, etc. Philanthropic Inspiration, Emotional Healing, etc. Question: how would these be resolved? MEntity: Often in quite similar methods as would be used through a Physical Plane body, but simply not actually being Physical. The familiarity of the Physical Plane is replicated as a fairly consistent and large mapping of the Astral for just such things. What we spoke about in the Levels was specific to that 3rd Level, in that once discarnate, further Karma can continue to be burned, but that is not the only Level that can address non-Physical Karma. Some of this happens even as you are incarnated. We know of many of you who have awakened from a rather profound dream of affection and love from some unknown relationship, or have played out scenarios that have no bearing on your current life, but felt like lifetimes lived, or have shared profoundly erotic and intimate moments with a "famous" person that were clearly more than fantasy. These can often be a burning of a ribbon. Question: So even after cycling off, there is opportunity to burn off any remaining karma that does not require physical form? MEntity: Often those Karma addressed on the 3rd Level after cycling off are much like "bonus" rounds that both parties had dropped as requiring balance, but are then addressed for the sheer sake of experience.
  6. MICHAEL SPEAKS LIVE CHAT Open Floor December 22, 2013 Channel: Troy Tolley [MEntity] We will begin with Royce, then. [royce] Hi michael, I have a question concerning OBJECTIVE art ( as stated by gurdjieff and OSHO) vs. Subjective art. What is your description of the differences between them and what centers are utilized? [MEntity] In terms that differentiate the arts as Subjective versus Objective, one is a function of an individual's subconsciousness, various layers of processes, including those that tap into collective consciousness, yet all of which are interpretative and rather metaphorical. Whereas the Objective is utterly its own, standing as itself, with or without meaning, metaphor, and relevance. When the Subjective is referred to as "soulless," it was not intended to mean "less than," but more to represent the perspective of Personality, the temporal. That art which is Objective is of Essence, or at least, of the Personality that is awake. Subjective art represents something. Objective art represents itself. Most of what passes as "art" is not of Essence, is "soulless," if you will. It is of Personality, and that is about as derogatory as saying that a single lifetime is the result of the choices of Personality, not necessarily those of the soul. All of the Lower Centers are involved when Subjective Art is created. ALL of the Centers are involved when Objective Art is created. [EricM] There's recently been an impromptu discussion on the limited remaining resources of fossil fuels (oil, gas, coal, etc) and what the slow decline in their availability will mean to our civilization. Because our civilization has many of its roots in such fuels, the decline of their availability, and the slow response to this decline, seems to be painting a difficult and relatively grim picture of the future. Can you provide some brief ideas of the future probabilities shaping up around this issue, say within the next 50-100 years, and how society as we know it will be affected? [MEntity] The shift toward the shocking reality of declining fuels is within 5 years. It is not something that can be put off or ignored for much longer. Most alternatives that are in place today are not viable for replacing the scale that depends upon the current resources. It is not a grim reality ahead for most probabilities that we can see, but a definite jolt to most modern societies. The better-case probabilities have leaps in technology, waste management, and the processes that depend upon the current fuels. If the replacement of those fuels are depended upon, then the probabilities are fairly grim, as you put it, but for most, there are innovations in HOW those fuels are used that makes the difference. The capacity for greater storage and extension the life of energy for a number of dependent technologies makes a major impact on the time left for generating alternatives to the fuels that must, eventually, be moved away from. In the process of advancing how energy is stored and used, the alternatives then begin to have far more impact, instead of simply being minor contributors to wasteful and inefficient processes now being used for a dominant, declining resource of energy. [Maureen] Was Nelson Mandela (Warrior-cast Server, Level 6 Old) a Magnetic Server, a Transcendent Old Server (not Transcendental), or “something” else? [MEntity] We do not know what the "something else" might be, but he was the former, yes. [Maureen] a Magnetic Server? [MEntity] Does that answer your question? [Maureen] Yes it does. Thanks Michael [MikeClev] I have a question about young kids' experience of life. I have read that kids have imaginary friends (my eldest does) and that some may even remember and describe past lives, and that this fades as they grow up. Sometimes they may tell us about things they see that we can't see. What are kids really experiencing? Is it all about getting parents' attention? [MEntity] It cannot be said that imaginary friends are all about getting parents' attention, though it can be for some, of course. In that case, there tends to be behavior issues that accompany the imagination that speak to the needs of the child and what is of necessity to address. Simply sharing with excitement one's imaginary friend is not an indication of anything other than that excitement to share. For most children, the imaginary friends are a mix of the guides and one's own Essence. This can bring up access to Personalities in the history of the Essence, which would most likely be described as scenarios, not necessarily as a personality. The imagination comes fully intact for most fragments as children, as this is how the Essence and guides work over time to bond with the body, and this open access can show up in ways that are almost literal in the sense of "invisible friends," to simply being a generated creation that represents any number of things relative to the psyche. Think of children as having one foot in the Astral Plane at all times, so the blur between what is "real" (read: tangible, Physical) versus "imagination" (read: intangible, literal or symbolic) is quite wide. [GeraldineB] Michael, yesterday we received the seven elements that prompted our learning in the Sage year of 2013. Could we have the 7 elements for the upcoming Year of the Priest, 2014? [MEntity] How willing were you to share in the enthusiasm that is expressed and exhibited by others? What responsibility did you take for how you reflect the best of others back to them? What responsibility did you take for what you saw reflected about yourself in others? How willing were you to ask for help? How willing were you to see that another may need help, even if not asked? How much freedom did you allow for others to evolve at their own pace, regardless of your contributions from your own position in your own evolution? How much intimacy did you allow in your life, even with your wounds, your shame? How willing were you to allow the wounding and shame of others into your life that is not your own? (counting as one element here) We may elaborate upon these, of course, but these are fair for guiding one through the higher paths of 2014. [GeraldineB] Thank you -- next Dec we might have some good answers for these :) [ViP1] hello Michael. How would you describe the meaning of the term "conscience", and its applicability (or not) in navigating life? [MEntity] We might equate the term Conscience (as opposed to consciousness) to the sense of responsibility one evolves over lifetimes. The greater the conscience, the greater one owns his or her part in the equation of responsibility. This begins with one's self, of course, starting with the Physical, Emotional, and Intellectual Bodies, and then extending into the responsibilities one would have for the impact of one's choices and actions on others. This sense of responsibility, or Conscience, then would expand to recognize that one's choices and actions have consequences that may never be seen, but would still exist, such as they might be seen on the environment, on exploited and abused animals and humans, on the future, and even on Essence. The Older Souls would tend to find Conscience to be the equivalent of Responsibility AND Compassion, then. The evolution of one's Conscience is the evolution of one's move from Anatomic to Atomic. Navigating the life then moves away from self-preservation, fear, and survival, and toward self-awareness, love, and evolution. There are 7 circles of Conscience that one expands through, and we will share that delineation in another gathering. [Janet] Some time ago you spoke about the number 12 in relation to creation and merging of parallels and energy rings and even universes. You mentioned “universes stacked in groups of 12 that collapse and expand into one another to rotate out themes”. Someone asked me a question about Grand Cycles the other day and it made me wonder: what's the relation between Grand Cycles and universes? Do there tend to be multiple (or perhaps all) Grand Cycles for a spark within a single universe or are universes created to serve the themes proposed for new Grand Cycles? If a simplistic answer can't be easily obtained within 15 minutes, it's okay to pass on this question and I'll follow up at some future time. [MEntity] Grand Cycles of an Essence are specific to a Universe. All that you know of as "you" is of one Universe, even as it is full of parallels, layers, bubbles, and holes, if you will. A different Universe (in terms being used for this conversation) may have very different patterns and cycles that would be unrecognizable or impossible to convey to the consciousness that is of this Universe. This even goes for the idea of how Universes are stacked. From "this" Universe, they are stacked in blocks of 12, but from a different Universe within that 12, the description may be very different in how it is explained. So the number of Grand Cycles "you" may have noted as part of your exploration of Essence is relative to "this" Universe. [Bobby] It's been about 2.5 years since I asked about Fukushima. Would you be able to give us an update as far as how you see things and perhaps a most likely probability that we could chew on? [MEntity] The most likely probability that we can see is that the effects of this event contribute to a great wave of global unity of effort toward responsibility for the well-being of the species and the planet. There have been waves before, of course, and this will be another. Within the next 5 years, the impact will have most likely have come to rather devastating obviousness, and it will likely draw together some great minds for how to move forward. [Bobby] um, how devastating? [MEntity] We are using that term to describe the response to the effects on foods, water supplies, and local genetics. [Martha] You gave VIP some detailed information recently on the Lunar body type. I’d like the same kind of information on the Venusian body type. time permitting :) [MEntity] That is a response we must put off in consideration of our channel, but we can always be asked again. [Martha] OK, no problem! [MEntity] Good evening to each of you, then. We will conclude here for now.
  7. MICHAEL SPEAKS 071309 OPEN FLOOR [Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here now. We will begin with a response to Jon's question. [QUESTION] What is Michael's advice for not just surviving in this economy, but thriving? It seems like there is extra opportunity because everyone else is pulling back. I would like to know we can use those opportunities to their fullest... [Michael Entity] In terms of lucrative ventures, anything focused on the improvement of daily life is going to be received well, especially if it is affordable and has long-term use or impact, from entertainment to practical gadgets. It appears to us that anything connecting an individual to a group is going to be received well, also. We offer that response up as our perspective, but not as a suggestion, or advice. We think that any fragment can "thrive" in any economy when the basics of shelter and food are provided, so the lucrative ventures and "opportunities" are presuming an economy that is fairly thriving by material standards compared to survival. The opportunities that may be most lucrative and beneficial in terms of material well-being would be any that are in keeping with Mature Soul values that continue to be recognized. Any venture that emphasizes improvement of stable position, and positive impact of the individual among groups, may be found to be lucrative. We are describing a broad context because your creativity and personal passions must be the fuel for what is pursued or provided for material abundance. What we would suggest is a process of examining what drives your enthusiasm, or frustrations, and then measure those against the skills and tools you have for either sharing that enthusiasm, or providing a solution for the frustration, and then determining if there is a market for it. If there is no market, then create one, if you choose to do so. It is not necessary to wait for the masses to help shape your investments. It is often the case that the most lucrative ventures have come from sharing what was never considered by the masses at the time. We would suggest never to underestimate your creative impulses, though it is helpful to eventually focus them. To summarize: for the world as it stands now, the areas of high receptions would be those that encourage positive group experiences and/or emphasizes the pleasures of living in a shared environment. Beyond this, we would suggest speaking to a competent investor, as they may have a much closer "finger on the pulse" of any immediate ventures of interest. [QUESTION] Recently much fervor is being talked about over future pandemics (viruses) on the rise. USA is talking mandatory vaccine shots. Is there cause for concern over widespread pandemics and/or the mandatory vaccines? What can we do to protect ourselves and loved ones concerning the shots and/or viruses? Thank You. [Michael Entity] The choice to abide by enforced laws, or not, will still be your choice, though you would have to be willing to take on the potential consequences of either direction. There will always be ways around enforced laws with which you do not wish to comply, however difficult that may be. Mandatory vaccinations appear to be a low probability for enforcement at this point. It would be more likely that incentives would be used. At this point, "fear" is enough of an incentive for most to comply. So the concern over mandatory vaccines appears to be unwarranted at this point, but the concern over "pandemics" is valid concern, at least among metropolitan areas where constant close contact is a daily event. And when we say that the concern is valid, we do not imply that as a prediction, merely that the concern is more valid than that of the concern over mandatory vaccines. Vaccines would have little effect on preventing a "pandemic" or "epidemic." If it were to happen, it would be as a result of a mass lacking of immunity against a fast contagion and no vaccine can predict this. Only after-the-fact of spreading infection would a vaccine become effective. [QUESTION] is the vaccine harmful? [Michael Entity] In the use of any vaccine, there is always a risk, but the risks that are posed are limited to a small percentage of the population. In most cases, a vaccine either works, or has no effect at all. In isolated cases, the effect is not as desirable. [QUESTION] I see, but there will be more viruses on the rise? [Michael Entity] It is valid that viri are morphing and mutating at speeds and volumes unprecedented, but so are immune systems and most are capable of keeping up. In most instances of a viral scare, you would see that it is affecting mostly the elderly or infants or those with already-compromised immune systems. This is not to say that those with weak systems need not be protected, but that this reality helps to alert to any spreading dangers long before the majority would be at risk. [QUESTION] so by not getting vaccinated we are not placing others at risk? [Michael Entity] Choosing not to be vaccinated puts no one at risk but oneself, if you wish to call it a "risk." We say this because your lack of immunity has little to do with the level of immunity in another. The greatest "vaccination," or boost of immunity, that anybody can have is a high level of self-esteem. At the root of all immune deficiencies is a proportional blow or chronic erosion of self-esteem. When medicine and community emphasizes the well-being of the individual's sense of place, purpose, and position within his or her life, then disease and contagion will have all but disappeared. [QUESTION] what is Michael's definition of real purpose / real task / real mission - is this something that is contractual between our essence/and, our fragment and, essence will come in to communicate it to us... it seems that this "real work" occurs for fragments between the 4th I.M. and, 5th I.M., does it have 7 levels of operation ??? and, if so, what are they ??? maybe some people do it before the 4th-and, starting of the 5th - and, do it throughout their lives [Michael Entity] We would think our phrase of "Life Task" may be of relevance here, and we would define that as "the original motivation for the physical form and for the dynamics of the Personality." There are no contracts in this case, but there are intentions and agreements that are helped along by Essence until the Personality is no longer interested. The Life Task is what Essence intended to experience in the lifetime through this particular Personality. What Essence intends NEVER overrides what Personality decides. Essence has no urgency for these intentions because it is fully aware of the fact that it can create another lifetime and body for trying again. In addition to the option for creating new lifetimes for the intent of a task, there are also parallel branches within a single lifetime where, more often than not, at least one version of "you" does co-create the life with Essence and fulfill the task. Essence will never impose its vision upon the Personality beyond the original motivation and design. Most Personalities can determine their Life Task quite easily because it is more often than not something they already do. The Life Task is a primary consideration in the design of Personality, so whether one experiences the fulfillment of that task, or merely develops fruitless habits and patterns, the clues would still be there. If one is not already doing something related to the Life Task, then clues are usually found in what one WISHES one were doing. It is valid that the 4th Internal Monad is usually the stage within the life when a fragment truly questions the alignment of self with soul, or life with essence, or path with presence, depending on the spirituality of the individual. There are 7 stages to the process of fulfilling the Life Task and they correspond to the 7 stages within the 4th Internal Monad. We will include those in the final transcript. [See The 7 Stages of the 4th Internal Monad.] [QUESTION] How is life task related to self karma. Are they the same? [Michael Entity] The Life Task is related to Self-Karma only insofar as Self-Karma is an obstacle to the fulfillment of the Life Task. They are not interlocked, but some fragments can find the distractions of Self-Karma to block or deflect any sense of fulfillment of the Task. Many are capable of managing both the Life Task and the work of Self-Karma, especially if the Life Task is in an unrelated life context from the Self-Karma. [QUESTION] Is there only one life task, or is there typically a bundle of tasks to be completed? [Michael Entity] Some choose to have an arcing Life Task with several tasks to build upon, but the concept of the Life Task is a singular context as a whole. It would help to think of the Life Task as a QUALITY sought to be experienced, much like the Goal is. In fact, the Life Task is simply a more focused detail of the Goal. [QUESTION] I would like to hear you discuss more about choice. From my understanding, every personality has the ability to choose. However, incarnations are planned out ahead of time as well as parents, agreements, TC's, etc. What I would like to know, is what would happen if a baby were to be born when no Essence planned that life out? Is that something that is possible if personality does indeed have free will and choice? Would that baby be born without a soul/Essence? What would that life be like? Can humans really act outside of Essence's influence, has it ever been done, and when? [Michael Entity] In all cases of Incarnation, the first seven years of a life are lived "without a soul," so to speak. By this we mean that the body and Personality are most vulnerable to the choices of others who are fully incarnated and the Essence of that Personality does more in that period of time to help shape the path of the life than at any other time, for most fragments. It takes up to 7 years for the Personality to fully resonate and embrace the Essence, if at all. It could be said another way that it takes up to seven years for the soul to "move in" to the body, though we would not mean that literally. With this 7 year process in mind, it may be more easily understood that a body born despite an Essence's choice to "back out" is then "up for grabs" for any other Essence, and bodies are often grabbed up when they are available like this, much in the same way that one might scramble to catch the next bus or plane. However, while it does happen, it is extremely rare that any Body or Personality would be born without the Essence fully committed. That kind of birth happens most often during the Infant Soul Cycle, but when it does happen, the Body dies within a relatively short time of birth if no Essence grabs it up. It is never the case that an Adult Personality or Body is conscious without an Essence. [QUESTION] so, personality is doing the gathering at that stage? [Michael Entity] During the first 7 years of life, the Personality is most passive in its gathering of experiences, and Essence is most powerful, though this will vary from Personality to Personality, of course. [COMMENT] so it seems there are some "limits" to choice in a manner of speaking [Michael Entity] The key here is understanding that Choice exists on all levels, and each level has its perimeters. Essence's level of choice is vast and encompassing of Personality's level of choice. Personality's level of choice is limited by the contexts, tools, and mobility of the lifetime, but always overrides Essence's choices while Physical. When we are quoted as saying "All Is Choice," it is implicit that we spoke of the various levels of "you" that is "all." In addition to that, it is implicit that CHOICE does not automatically mean CREATION or Cause. It can also mean RESPONSE. Not all impact in your life will be of your choice, but what you choose to do with that impact will be your choice. Eventually the experience of Essence and Personality are blurred into each other and the life is a co-creative process that has no sense of division. [QUESTION] what are the 7 levels of real essence contact? [Michael Entity] Becoming more intimate and aware of your Essence could be described by these 7 stages below. We are describing them in terms of the level of consciousness brought to the process of Choice. ONE: Conscious Choice; if you are aware that you are making a choice, you are at least within the first stage of Essence contact TWO: Self-Nurturing Choice; if you are aware that you are choosing, and that your choices are intended to nurture yourself, then you are at least within the second stage of Essence Contact. THREE: Pleasurable Choice: if you are aware that you are choosing, that your choices are intended to nurture, and that your navigation is pointed toward pleasurable experiences, then you are within at least the 3 stage of Essence Contact. FOUR: Causal Choice: if you are aware that you are choosing, that your choices are intended to nurture, that your navigation is intended to bring pleasure, and that all of this can be considered in the context of its impact on others and your probabilities (future), then you are at least within the 4th stages of Essence Contact. FIVE: Truthful Choice: building upon the previous four levels or stages, we would describe the 5th Stage as that of being incapable of deceiving yourself or others, or making choices based upon lies that you have come to rely upon as truths about yourself or others in ways that cause harm, isolation, pain, boredom, or lack of fulfillment. We rarely see a full movement into or beyond this 5th Stage. SIXTH: Trustful Choice: building upon the previous 5 stages, this stage describes a sense of peace and trust, not only in your personal awareness and sense of capabilities within the life, but upon your Essence as a part of your resource for knowledge and history. This is not a blindness or moments of leaping into the unknown, but of a deep peace that your intuition and inner guidance is exactly what is appropriate for you, and that if you were discover differently, you would trust that you simply recalibrate. SEVEN: Playful Choice: this is a level of living that builds upon the previous 6 levels and has no fear. Fear is used as a form of information, not imprisonment or paralyzation. It is a deep recognition of your existence before, within, and beyond this Personality and lifetime, and life is then experienced as a massive opportunity to play, whatever that may mean for you. There are other ways to describe these 7 stages of intimacy and embrace of Essence by Personality, but this is one way that is applicable and valid. [QUESTION] What causes the emotion of being annoyed, and how is it useful? [Michael Entity] Being "annoyed" is often a defense against helplessness, or a wish to control a person, circumstance, context, or time frame; it is an offshoot of the Impatience and Martyrdom Axis, and even if those are not your habitual Chief Features, they are still accessible to all. In short, it is a control issue. Annoyance is only as useful as one takes the opportunity to see it as informative. Annoyance points out where one wishes others would change so that one does not have to. If there is chronic, unwarranted annoyance, keep in mind that the extent to which one is annoyed is the extent to which one is avoiding a truth about oneself. Those truths are usually painful and connected to the past and wounding. Mild annoyances are simply distractions, but if the experiences rise to chronic distraction, or to a clear pattern, there is information in those experiences that are specific to the individual being annoyed. [QUESTION] So the work lies with the one who is annoyed, not the one who is annoying? [Michael Entity] The "work" will always lie with the one who is triggered because there is no real way to control others without the risk of generating Karmic Ribbons. All of this being said, Annoyance is just another form of navigation. If something or someone annoys you, it does not mean there is some deep, dark underbelly of wounding to unveil; it can often simply mean to move in a direction away from that which annoys you. It can often mean speaking up when you normally would not. It can mean offering alternatives, instead of presuming a limitation. It can mean adapting, despite your resistance. The key in most Annoyances is in what you WILL NOT DO because you feel you "shouldn't have to." One way to heal an Annoyance that may be a constant in your life is to recognize that you feel your personal Rights are being violated. If one can identify exactly what Right is being violated and voice that Right internally or externally, and then act most accordingly, then many situations can be relieved that way. And finally, we would say that it is important to note here that the emphasis is not always about relieving the annoyance; this is often not possible in cases where physical danger may lurk, such as speaking up against a band of armed hoodlums who are ruining a movie. The issue is in giving yourself permission to claim back your Right in some way. You may not be able to convince others of your Rights, but you can make the choices that are most serving of your Rights. And once one has begun to understand, reclaim, and nurture his or her own Rights, then the fulfillment of the Rights of others do not seem as offensive or annoying. The hoodlums, for instance, while by most standards would be violating a multitude of social boundaries, are simply overcompensating for Rights that they, too, feel have been violated in their own life. Annoyance then can become Empathy and you would find other ways besides the enjoyment of a movie can help to nurture your own sense of Rights. [QUESTION] This is a carryover from the last chat and may be confusing; however, I'll try and lay some groundwork. Last month's chat, we had a very nice session on how it's the Role in Essence that evolves through the Soul Age Levels, and that it's Roles that go through the various Grand Cycle evolutionary experiences, not Essence, per se. Yet, conversely, we're also told that it's Essence who holds their casting place in Entity, which then recombines as a single being as it were, including recombining the Entities into a Cadre being, and even onwards into an Energy Ring being on the way back to Tao. My question would be a need for clarification about how Essence retains individual integrity enough to have Roles and multiple grand cycles within this larger recombined or integrated structure of Entities to Cadres to Energy Rings. [Michael Entity] We will offer up this analogy for you to consider: Within your single lifetime you are born and live a life full of impact, choices, relationships, foci, paths, environments, experiences, etc. At the end of that lifetime, it could be said that who you are is the culmination of that entire lifetime. Each day, each month, each relationship, each environment, etc., to your Personality in no way loses substantial existence or influence simply because the Personality ages. And so it is for Essence. Every Personality, lifetime, Agreement, Karma, Configuration, Entity, Cadre, Energy Ring in no way lose their relevance at the eventual "end" of a Grand Cycle. To take this further: in the same way that your waking up in the morning and changing clothes does not lose the day before, so it is that Essence does not lose itself. This may be difficult to fathom, but this analogy is as accurate as possible. Each Grand Cycle to Essence is like each day to your Personality, so to speak. Most Essences have only been "awake" for "3 days," then. [QUESTION] Although, how can one go on to be new roles, grand cycles, etc -- are those akin to personalities to Essence types of experiences? [Michael Entity] Yes, when Essence (or Spark) returns to Tao and then chooses a new Grand Cycle, its choice of a new Role and relationships and Casting are similar to the Role's choice of a new Personality, parents, geographical location, and Overleaves in each lifetime. [QUESTION] So when essence recombines in the Causal Plane and above on its way back to Tao, it is still able to access these memories, even after it is Tao? [Michael Entity] Yes, the memories are always there for the "Spark" that is behind the choice of Essence Role, but not necessarily for the Essence Role and Personalities that are distinct to a particular Grand Cycle and Physical Plane. It is a misnomer to call them "memories" in this case, but it is the most accurate word for now. [ELABORATION REQUESTED BY TROY] One of way of understanding this thread of continuity for the Spark, or Essence, is to imagine a box of photographs from your childhood, and a box of videotapes from your youth, and DVDs of your adult life, etc. With each passing stage of life, your memories of the past are not a constant in your mind, but those stored images can trigger those memories in an instant. The same could be said of your Spark, or Essence, as it moves from one Grand Cycle to another. A "box of images" are left with Tao, so to speak, and can be drawn from at any point, or pulled up in between Cycles, but the "memories" are not exactly prominent in the current focus. [QUESTION] So while individuality is 'lost' it is still 'retained' - I love when the rule of paradox applies [Michael Entity] The need for individuality is lost, but not the validity of it. [QUESTION] I have a question about the influence of past cycles. It there are two fragments, A and B. Fragment A has completed 15 cycles as a human being. Fragment B has no previous cycles. If both are beginning a new grand cycle, how would the perspective of A be different from B in the Infant stage? Generally how would the experience of the entire new cycle be different? [Michael Entity] We can only speak from observation of similar phenomenon, and what we have observed is that "fragment A" would manifest Essence and propel through the levels of Soul Age at a rate that could be described as "faster" than that of "fragment B." In most cases of a Sentient Race, the gaps in Grand Cycle experience are bridged by fewer incarnations from those who have more Grand Cycles. In other words, "Fragment A" may have 1 lifetime for every 10 of "fragment B." This is why the lifetime count for many of our students is lower than those who are of a much Younger Soul Age, because the average Grand Cycle count for your species is 3, whereas many of our students average around 9. [QUESTION] Would there be a qualitative difference? For example I read a book at 12 (younger) and then I read the same book at 50. the same experience but so different also. [Michael Entity] Sometimes that is the case, however, most Grand Cycles are not repeated within the same species or planetary system, so it is not a revisit of familiarity, but a completely new experience for all involved. Most of you have never been Human before. [QUESTION] most? that means that some have . . . [Michael Entity] Yes, but Humans exist in other locations of your Universe. [QUESTION] Are they pretty much exactly the same as us, or are there noticeable evolutionary differences? [Michael Entity] When we said "humans exist in other locations," we meant that you would recognize them as exactly like you for the most part. [QUESTION] Why go through it a 15th time? Just for speed? [Michael Entity] Grand Cycles are commitments to completely new species and location, or a new species in the same location, or the same species in a new location, but rarely does Sentience return to both the same species and location. [QUESTION] I understand that animal companions are extremely connected to the human they are with, but do they ever stay (alive) past what they would choose based on the human's needs? And if so, what effect would that have on the animal? [Michael Entity] No. When an animal companion is "done," he or she or it is done. If there is still life, it is because the life is not over. For animal companions who are developing the Emotional Center, the experience of a lengthy process of aging can bring tremendous evolution to that Center. Not only for the animal, but for the caretaker. [QUESTION] "Balance implies obsolescence of the overleaves. Balanced man is no longer stuck. He is free to move in real space where there are no limitations" (Messages from Michael). I can only interpret this to mean that it is possible to change one's overleaves - not easy, but in rare cases, possible. However, the overleaves can be regarded as part of the physical plane, and there is also the common idea that the positive poles of the overleaves represent the true personality. I don't see any real conflict in this (as it sometimes appears in discussions), unless one assumes it is possible to exist on the physical plane without overleaves, as the quote above seems to imply. Comments? [Michael Entity] Overleaves do not change except in very rare instances of Walk-ins, when the body that would normally die is then passed on to a new Essence. It is then that the new Essence can use the next 7 years of recovery for altering the Overleaves. Overleaves are genetic, so the changing of them is not an easy or popular process, and most changes are limited by axis (e.g. Idealist changes to Skeptic, or Growth to Re-evaluation). [QUESTION] So, what does this 'balanced man' mean? [Michael Entity] What is meant by "balance" here could be more easily understood as "choice-driven." When one is choice-driven, then one can choose to act, feel, and be accordingly and not just through the dictations of design. For instance, though one may be an Idealist by design, one can direct that Idealism through various tools of choice, including the entire spectrum of that Axis, through the study of impact from his choices, and even through the search for understanding the primary perspectives (attitudes) of others. When one is "balanced" it simply means that one is no longer restricted by design, only by the capability to choose. Choosing from within a structure or design is not a restriction; it is a necessity. True Freedom does not exist without structure or design. We will point out that while one cannot truly change his Overleaves, he can USE the other Overleaves at will. In other words, just because one is an Idealist does NOT mean one cannot comprehend the perspective of a Pragmatist or a Stoic, or a Cynic. The "balanced" person is capable of empathy and that empathy would be based upon the capability to expand beyond your design. Watching a good actor is an example of these statements. Just because one is born with black hair by design does not mean that he or she cannot wear a blonde wig, and wear it well. You may not be able to change WHO you are, but you can always change HOW you are. [QUESTION] Are sages particularly adept at this? [Michael Entity] We would not say they are particularly adept as much as we would say they are more quickly interested in that path to true freedom of expression. [QUESTION] If someone evolves in their expression of an overleaf, does this capacity ever extend to ability with other overleaves [Michael Entity] Yes, when the use of one Overleaf excels, so does the potential for use of the other Overleaves. The benefit of one benefits the whole. The Attitude is the primary pivotal Overleaf for all Personalities, by the way. [QUESTION] Does all of the hoohah about "raising one's vibrations" or elevating one's dimension have to do with this basic quotation about "real space without limitations"? [Michael Entity] We do not think all conversations, or "hoohah," about raising vibrations relates to our quote, but we can say that our quote has nothing to do with raising vibrations, except insofar as expanding the capabilities of choice might be equated to that concept. [QUESTION] Michael, this may be too personal to be relevant in this forum, but if not, are you able to see any reasons why the 60's Rock n' Roll artist "Jimi Hendrix" resonates so familiarly with me since I learned of his existence as an early teen? [Michael Entity] We can say that this fragment resonated to many for various personal reasons that we can address more directly to you in another format, but on a larger scale this fragment was also a symbolic representation of "possibility," which appealed to a great many beyond the medium through which he expressed that possibility. The showcasing of his skills was new and exciting and pleasurable to many, and this ignited a great deal of creative inspiration for many to use within their own lives in meaningful ways. When any fragment is able to be showcased as eloquent, artistic, and talented beyond the apparent obstacles of the times, inspiration is bound to ensue for many. Recent examples of this on a small scale could be said to have been the fragment known as "Susan Boyle" or the captain of the flight that landed in the Hudson River. On an even larger scale than the fragment who was "Jimi Hendrix," many would say that the fragment known as Michael Jackson embodied this inspiration of possibility over obstacles, as well. We will conclude here. Goodbye.
  8. MICHAEL SPEAKS - June 14, 2009 - OPEN FLOOR [Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here now. [QUESTION] Michael. This may seem terribly "basic;" however, due to discussions amongst students, I've become confused about how the various Soul Age Levels apply to Essence's growth and development. When Essence first starts incarnating as an Infant soul, is it actually an Infant soul that then grows and develops as each level is achieved? In other words, do completing Internal Monads in positive pole, Soul Level, and Age, apply to Essence's development? Could you please clarify? [Michael Entity] We think we understand your question and will attempt to respond appropriately. What we would remind you of, first, is that what evolves is the ROLE in Essence. We realize that the terms "Essence" and "Role" are used interchangeably, and fairly so, but they are quite different in technical terms. Much like your Personality and Essence are truly "one," they are still not the same things, technically. For the sake of this response, we will use the terminology of Essence for the part of you that exists with or without a Role. We will use Role to refer to the specific medium through which Essence experiences itself in relation to other fragments sharing a similar agenda, and sharing an intent to be a part of the spiritual ecology of a particular system, such as Earth, all of its life forms, and more specifically, Human Sentience. The PERSONALITY experiences evolution within a single lifetime, from its Infancy to Death. Within that time frame, it goes through rites of passages relative to its physical and psychological age progression and our channels refer to those as Internal Monads. The ROLE also goes through stages that our channels refer to as Internal Monads, which is a different scale than that of the Personality. To help in clarifying this differentiation, we think it would be a good idea to refer to the Internal Monads of the Personality as "The Seven Rites of Passages" as a means to differentiate from the Seven Internal Monads of the Role. The Seven Rites of Passage are still, technically, Internal Monads, but specific to the Personality. Not all stages, or Rites of Passage during a life will be experienced or completed within a single lifetime because of physiological or psychological interruptions, limitations, and interferences. ROLE experiences evolution from its first physical lifetime through its last physical incarnation, even if by proxy (Transcendental or Infinite*). Role's evolution is measured by Internal Monads, as well, but these are relative to the progression through the Soul Levels that you find in the Soul Ages. The Role's evolution through each Level is dependent on each Personality's efforts to progress through its own Rites of Passages. The further a Personality can progress through its Rites of Passages in the positive poles, the further the Role is progressed through its own Internal Monads. The 7 Internal Monads for the Role are the 7 stages of EACH LEVEL of the Soul Ages. Since it can take several Personalities (incarnations) to finally get through the 7 Life Stages, both physiologically and psychologically, it goes that it also takes that many lifetimes for a Role to progress from one level to the next in a Soul Age. With this understanding, you could say that it takes 7 successful Rites of Passages to equate the 7 successful Internal Monads of the Role. The process for the 7 Rites of Passages takes place within the physiological and psychological boundaries of the Personality, whereas the 7 Internal Monads take place within the levels of Essence/Role and is built upon the processes of the Personality. [ADDITIONAL ELABORATION from TROY] There are a couple of ways this evolution happens: COMMON PROCESS (classic process) Let's use a 5th Level Old Sage who is just starting the 5th Level. 5th Level Personality # 1 : lives to 12 years old; finishes the 2nd Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 2 : lives to 25 years old; finishes the 3rd Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 3 : lives to 50 years old: finishes the 3rd Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 4 : lives to 52 years old; finishes 3rd Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 5 : lives to 60 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 6 : lives to 45 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 7 : lives to 55 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 8 : lives to 72 years old; finishes 5th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 9 : lives to 65 years old; finishes 5th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 10 lives to 25 years old; finishes 6th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 11 lives to 17 years old; finishes 7th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 7 Rites of Passages Completed; 7 Internal Monads Completed = 5th LEVEL Completed NEXT LIFETIME = 6th Level; and a completely new cycle through the 7 Rites of Passage/7 Internal Monads as a process toward the next soul level/age. Notice that a "short" lifetime can still quickly build upon the collection of past Rites of Passage as a means to "quickly" move into the later Passages. It is often the case that if only the 6th and 7th are remaining, a child will generate a terminal illness early in the life, speeding the process of awareness of mortality and impending death as a means to sum up the Rites of Passages, Internal Monads, and Level. RARE or NON-Classic Process: In some lifetimes, it is of interest to the Older Soul to transit a Level WITHIN the lifetime. This is rare, but not so rare for Older Souls. When this happens, the lifetime is quite literally "two lifetimes in one." There are a multitude of reasons for choosing this process, and here's how it works: Let's use a 5th Level Old Sage who decides to transit Soul Levels within a lifetime. Only the 6th and 7th Rites were not completed for the 5th Level, so rather than have a short life, or die when the 6th and 7th Rites are completed, the lifetime continues into a new cycle of Rites of Passages. When this happens, the Personality literally goes through a phase of deep awareness of its mortality and senses an impending "death." All Rites of Passages are physiological and psychological. We often think of these as relative to the physical age, but that just so happens to be a classic pattern. The actual Rites can happen at any physical age. It's the psychological levels that are the important dimensions. That's why someone can be stuck in the 3rd Rite of Passage, but be 80 years old. It's also why a 12 year old can be processing the 6th Rite of Passage. So when a person is transiting Soul Levels during a lifetime, it means they are also completing in the positive pole the 7th Rite of Passage. When that happens, the person undergoes a kind of psychological death (7th Rite), the Soul Level transit happens, and a psychological rebirth (1st Rite) happens, regardless of physical age. The following Rites of Passage will now add an interesting process to the lifetime as the person, regardless of physical age, now processes this rebirth, and then attempts the 2nd Rite of Mobility, the 3rd Rite of Independence, etc. as far as they can go with what years are left within the lifetime. Sometimes they only get through the first or second Rite, sometimes further. [END NOTE FROM TROY] [QUESTION] Does this mean that Essence can have multiple Roles incarnating -- what makes up Grand Cycles? [Michael Entity] With all of this being said, the ROLE starts as an "infant" because it is relative to its current cycle of exploration within a specific species, but the Spark who is Essence existed long before this current Role and species. There are other species and systems through which an Essence/Spark has already explored, from the initial choosing of a Role to its reunion with Tao. We refer to the entirety of this process as a Grand Cycle. Your Role does not change during one of these Grand Cycles, but once that Grand Cycle is completed, the Role is discarded, along with all of its dynamics, such as Frequency and Male/Female Energy Ratios, Essence Twins, Task Companions, Entities, Cadres, etc. and when a new Grand Cycle is chosen, all of those elements are chosen anew. [COMMENT] so, it's the Role that cycles off [Michael Entity] The Grand Cycle is to your Essence/Spark, what each Personality is to your Role. Most fragments within the Human Species have an average of 3 Grand Cycles. Most of our students, which is one Energy Ring, or 12 Cadres, share an average of 9 Grand Cycles. Essence does not evolve without the Role and the Role does not evolve without the Personality. Personality does not evolve without the 7 Rites of Passages. We realize we meandered through a response as a means to help provide context for our response. Did this answer you sufficiently for now? [COMMENT] Oh, indeed! Much more than I expected . . .everything clicked into place; thank you! [COMMENT] for me too!:) [COMMENT] Same here [COMMENT] wow; this is amazing good stuff - thank you [Michael Entity] In conclusion, the Essence/Spark DOES evolve, but it is on a different scale of measurement. There is a time when the Essence/Spark is an "infant," so to speak, but it inherently retains all of the qualities of Tao. The Essence/Spark's scale of evolution is of such a scale that the results would be difficult to comprehend. From what we understand, each Essence/Spark eventually runs its own universe, eventually fragmenting itself and continuing the spectacular creativity that is Tao, becoming its own "god," if you will. But this is not something one need concern oneself with as you consider how to pay your bills and get along with your loved ones. The number of Grand Cycles does have some effect on the way a Role will show up, even in its first Infant lifetime. Those with higher Grand Cycles can tend to seem much wiser than those with fewer Grand Cycles, which is why Entities and Cadres who share an average of Grand Cycles tend to incarnate quite tightly at first so that no one "sticks out." As the Role evolves, the Entities and Cadres "spread out" and are more capable of blending in with other fragments who may have more or less Grand Cycles. [COMMENT] Sometimes, I think we incarnate to escape the complexities of it all...we come here to stop and smell the roses so to speak [Michael Entity] We would agree, especially for those lifetimes having a Goal of Flow or Re-evaluation. Next question. [QUESTION] Back to basics 101 - I need a refresher on how to break the hold of the negative pole of Flow - Stagnation/Inertia. Would Michael offer some practical suggestions on dealing with this problem when it is hard just to do/start anything? I hope this is general enough - dealing with the negative pole of Flow. ( And yes, I see NCF playing a role in this as well, :) ) I think I'm stuck smelling the roses in only one place, hehehe [Michael Entity] One of the most effective ways of breaking Inertia is to surrender to it. This may seem counter to the intent, but one of the things that keeps a person locked in Inertia is the sense of "running in place," or "doing a lot of nothing." When one can surrender to the gravity that seems to keep one in place, the footing can be regained, or the sense of productivity and fulfillment can be regained. The point of having a Goal of Flow is to learn how to navigate within the currents that are natural to the life, and often those currents swirl, so to speak, or slow, or eddy. [COMMENT] . . . or get stuck on the rocks, hehe [Michael Entity] One of the greatest challenges for those in Flow is to overcome the pressure to show evidence and justification for their presence. [COMMENT] and NCF gets you on that part, for sure [COMMENT] oh boy do I get that... [COMMENT] me too [COMMENT] same here [COMMENT] It certainly affected me and I'm not in Flow [COMMENT] definitely me too [Michael Entity] When a fragment chooses Flow as a Goal, it is because there is an interest in the nuances and subtleties of existence and this increases the sensitivity of the Personality. [COMMENT] a big Ah [COMMENT] I second that! [COMMENT] So, smell that rose until it blackens, shrivels, and dries :) [COMMENT] .... and then make potpourri! [COMMENT] hehehe [COMMENT] yes! [COMMENT] lol [Michael Entity] This sensitivity is heightened so as to develop an intuitive grasp of the life and its natural flow, much like one might have when navigating a boat, skateboard, or other vehicle of momentum that pulls all of the senses together to calculate navigation without having to over analyze. [COMMENT] I understand this completely [COMMENT] hmm, maybe why this is why I think well while driving, lol; driving alone that is [COMMENT] I absolutely understand the idea of subtle navigation [Michael Entity] However, this sensitivity then leads to an awareness of all of the subtleties of one's "insides," so to speak, so all of the areas within oneself that are not flowing freely are felt, too. [COMMENT] perhaps that is part of the problem - a feeling that the natural flow is being blocked and feeling uncomfortable with that and wanting to 'flow' again - and not quite seeing how to get back there. [Michael Entity] Often, the Personality will turn to external environments for the solution to the lack of freedom within. [COMMENT] hence the inertia... [Michael Entity] Flowing externally and can help the flow, internally, but often it can take internal adjustments, as well. [COMMENT] ok [COMMENT] empty the well - so; it can be refilled [Michael Entity] Both the internal and external are connected, and one can help the other, but when one is neglected over the other, it can cause the sense of inertia, no matter how productive and free the life can seem in one area over the other. One of the most effective ways we've seen our students understand the concept of FLOW is to set alongside it the concept of PERMISSION. [COMMENT] ah to allow the flow...... [Michael Entity] When one feels the life is not flowing, internally or externally, it can help to ask where one has limited his or her sense of Permission. And often that permission is the barrier to the very simple and freeing experience of Relaxation. To relax. To embrace. To allow. To Be. Without apology or proof. [COMMENT] oh geeze, yes [COMMENT] thank you! [Michael Entity] We have more to say about this, especially in terms of how the negative pole can be shifted by using the positive pole of the other Goals, but we will elaborate on that in other sessions. Next Question [COMMENT] thank you very much, Michael [COMMENT] that was excellent; thank you :) [COMMENT] it was very freeing for me [COMMENT] quite excellent! :) [COMMENT] :heart: it [COMMENT] Today is a joy! [QUESTION] Hello Michael, my question has to do with choosing overleaves. In reviewing [between lives] does the fragment look over the whole series of incarnations to decide, or find a particular lifetime where something got missed... could you give me an example of how I chose this life's overleaves? [Michael Entity] There are basically three ways a fragment will choose its Overleaves: Randomly, Out of Curiosity, and Through Calculation. Earliest Personalities of the Infant Soul are a product of Randomness, with "random" simply meaning that no intent or calculation was involved in the choice, though choice was still involved. Late Baby through Early Mature bring Personalities that are products of Curiosity, meaning that there is more involved in the choice of Overleaves, but often with an "I wonder what would happen if..." kind of perspective. Mid Mature through Late Old can bring the most calculated Personalities, as the intent for final comprehension, integration, and commitment to the path for that fragment ensues. 7th Level Old is a free-for-all, which is why many who are truly 7th Level Old do not appear to be Old at all, since the Personalities are not of those you would presume to be so wise. But that is a perk of "getting older," in that one is no longer constrained by fears, obligations, ties, etc. and one can finally play with lifetimes in a way that are thoroughly understood as safe. [COMMENT] the perks of Old Age.....:) [Michael Entity] Some of the oldest souls on your planet are simply annoying and bring nothing of obvious value to society or to their social circles. Some of the "wisest," most spiritual and grounded of souls on your planet are far younger in soul age than one might presume, but many of these guru-like fragments are caught in the maya of what "wise" should look like, and play the role quite well. [COMMENT] I have always felt I planned all this since I was a kid [Michael Entity] The mapping of a lifetime, and the adherence to that map, vary from fragment to fragment, Personality to Personality. It would be accurate to say that you are of the more calculated choice in Overleaves and that your Personality found the mapping of your life to be of value, and adheres to that map within reason. Next question [QUESTION] abandonment - we all do this a lot , we come together, we go apart , that is life, as we know it... so, what can you tell me, that would help all of us, with this type of issue involved with our passages through our lives -- i am sure, it is a theme for many -- how deeply rooted is ABANDONMENT/does it have 7 levels; and; how do each of the 7 chief dragons affect it, like impatience, arrogance, self dep; self destruction, etc [Michael Entity] True Abandonment is of such popularity for exploration by souls that it is within the 30 "Classic" (external) Monads: the Abandoned and the Abandoner. It is quite popular for the same reasons that the other relationships are popular: it is an accelerated experience that holds great potential for learning about oneself. True Abandonment is an experience that eventually leads to a discovery of self-value and empowerment that, when discovered, is unprecedented. True Abandonment is antithesis to the truth of your resonance with others, and to experience it pushes one to question the value of oneself in ways that few other experiences push one to question in that way. The process of being abandoned, and the process of questioning, can be extremely painful until the lies are worked through and the truth is finally comprehended: that the value of self is never dependent upon the relative position one is within a relationship; and that the experience of abandonment is, ironically, due to the overblown value one has placed upon another fragment over self. [COMMENT] BINGO! [COMMENT] wow [COMMENT] (no wonder why sometimes, it is so easy to just detach) [COMMENT] what will the wind blow in next LOL sort of the like the ocean tide that deposits its treasures [COMMENT] I learned a lot of that in this go-round with my Father was a double-edged sword understanding intellectually why but an emotional hile [Michael Entity] There are 7 Circles of Abandonment that one can initiate or experience: Survival Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that is necessary for the survival of another, such as a mother abandoning a baby in a ditch. Sexual Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that nurtures another in an intimate way, either literally sexually, or simply as embracing the Other as Oneself. Physical Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that was necessary for the mobility and productivity of another fragment. Emotional Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that embraces another fragment with room to Be without explanation or apology. Intellectual Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position of communication and exchange with another. Intuitive Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position of encouragement for upholding the fulfillment of visions, dreams, and wishes. Spiritual Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position of guidance and clarity for the bigger picture and pattern of the life. [COMMENT] wow-this is very deep stuff--you are writing a book of great value troy/michael-as, you do this [COMMENT] that alone gives me mucho food for ponderings [Michael Entity] In instances of True Abandonment, Karma is often created. When we say True Abandonment, we mean that one has instilled oneself as a provider for a particular context, and then bails on the responsibilities of that position upon which another became dependent. When one experiences True Abandonment, the effects are valid and we do not mean to suggest that they are not, though we do suggest that most of the contexts can be overcome as the individual fragment finds his or her own sense of value. In the first context of Survival, the exploration of value is dependent upon Essence, not the Personality. The Essence will either let the life go as a means to start again in another life, or find a way to get help to the Personality that has been abandoned, if the Personality is receptive to that help. [COMMENT] And all the 7 seems to relate somehow with the 7 chakras and centers too [Michael Entity] Yes, there is a relevant parallel to the Chakras. [COMMENT] (you can NOT make someone else into something of value-they must learn to do that for themselves-otherwise, they do NOT appreciate it , as, they would, if they earned the rite of passage for themselves) [QUESTION] Every Personality can experience many abandonments which are only experience -- not Monadal levels of True Abandonment? [Michael Entity] The Monadal process of Abandoned/Abandoner would focus on a single Circle, or context, emphasizing, for instance, Sexual Abandonment or Intuitive Abandonment. The Monad of Abandoned/Abandoner can be played out multiple times across different relationships for emphasis on the different Circles, or contexts. We would also wish to clarify that we use the term True Abandonment to refer to the legitimate relinquishing of responsibilities for a position that was originally, mutually agreed upon. This is to differentiate from the INTERPRETATION of Abandonment that is merely a reaction to the disappointment that someone did not fulfill your expectations. Most instances of True Abandonment are thoroughly explored by mid to late Mature. Most instances of abandonment after that are those of interpretation and directly related to self-karmic issues (personal, internal divisions within) that one is working on resolving. Last question. [QUESTION] An Infant soul has certain characteristics. Are these Infant Soul characteristics similar to what is experienced at each level. So that a person at a level one Old soul age, will be orienting to this new Age with some of the perspective of an Infant but specifically to the Old Soul experience. [Michael Entity] That is a valid observation. It could be said that the First Level of any Soul Age is the "infant" level of that soul age, and so on. The 6th and 7th Levels of a Soul Age would resonate to the Transcendental and Infinite Soul Ages, wherein the 6th Level is a process of opening to the collective experiences of your Essence for guidance through the life, and the 7th Level is a process of openness to one's Entity for guidance for the life. While this is not a strict correlation, it is one that can help lend understanding to each Level. We will conclude here. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.