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  1. Michael Speaks LIVE "Soul Age Levels" August 25, 2013 Channel: Troy Tolley MEntity: Hello to all of you. We are here, now. We understand the subject is further exploration and review of the Soul Age Levels, and that there is an initial question you would choose as a starting point. We can begin our exchange. [Maureen] DESCRIPTION: By request: an exploration of the Soul Age Levels and how these work as descriptions of where one is in the process of expanding consciousness. Michael, would you provide a description for each of the Soul Age Levels focusing on the progressive elements or perceptual states that come into play as we work our way through all the Soul Ages, with emphasis today on the Old Soul Age, with a follow-up of Mature if we have enough time. Would you elaborate on how learning and insight can be complemented, at the same Level, across Soul Ages. For example, are the same Levels at a different Soul Age complementarily equal? Would a Level 4 Mature Soul and a Level 4 Old Soul be in an advantageous position to learn from each other? MEntity: Each Soul Age has 7 Levels. Each Level has 7 Internal Monads. To progress through a Soul Age LEVEL, one must complete/fulfill each of the Internal Monads. Internal Monads may take several lifetimes to fulfill, progressively. This is fairly simplistic and is review for most of you. If one were to complete all 7 Internal Monads in a single lifetime, the Essence took only one lifetime at one Level. If one takes 21 lifetimes to work through all of the Internal Monads, then it took 21 lifetimes to progress through that Level. Common across ALL Soul Age Levels is this process. This is because there is no lifetime that starts completely intact with its memories, experiences, and consciousness. It must be regained, rekindled, accessed, activated. In short, every lifetime is a process of remembering. This loss of memory is not on the scale of Essence, but relative to the new body. A new brain with new cells means that it will take time for that body to represent the consciousness/sentience. The first 7 years of a life is almost entirely about this fusion. So in every lifetime, one must be born and stay alive (first internal monad), then activate independent mobility (second internal monad), then activate self-sufficiency (third internal monad), then shed imprinting and activate self-definition (fourth internal monad), then free the self from self-imposed limitations and recreate the self from wisdom and experience (5th internal monad), then profoundly embrace and comprehend one's mortality (6th internal monad), then exit without attachments (7th internal monad). Some of these are more difficult to complete than others, depending on the Personality, but once one is completed, even if no others beyond that are completed within the lifetime, it is done, and only the remaining would be required for progress through the Level. For example: if one were to complete the 3rd Internal Monad, but not complete any beyond this in that lifetime, then the next lifetime will not only have an "easier" time of moving through the first three, but now only has to complete the 4th (and beyond, if possible.) However, even if that subsequent lifetime only completes the 2nd Internal Monad, it is not a setback for progress through the Soul Age Level. It may be a lull in progress, but only technically. Every lifetime contributes. We know of one fragment who took over 100 lifetimes to move through one Internal Monad. We share the details and review of the Internal Monads as they relate to the Levels because where one is in his or her Internal Monads can help give you an idea of where one is in the Level. Essence is in no hurry, so this information is not to be used as a means for pressure and measurement, but more as a means for orientation and expansion of choice. Of course, if one chooses to use this information against himself or herself, or to use it as a means of feeling better than someone else, it is up to them, but that is a fairly useless use of the information. So these Internal Monads are common among ALL Soul Age Levels. The reason everything is reset upon progression into a new Soul Age Level so that one must now cycle through the progression of Internal Monads for each Level is because each Level is a new context and perception. Though this is a bit misleading, since no grading or approval is involved in any way. Another commonality among all Levels is the polarities of each Level: Regardless of one's Soul AGE, these Polarities will help to define the emphases of COURSES, if you will, relative to the Soul Age. The FIRST LEVEL is always about the spectrum between PURPOSE and SIMPLICITY. The SECOND LEVEL is always about the spectrum between STABILITY and BALANCE. The THIRD LEVEL is always about the spectrum between ENTERPRISE and VERSATILITY. The FOURTH LEVEL is always about the spectrum between CONSOLIDATION and ACHIEVEMENT. For many, there is a pivotal lifetime that we refer to as MID-CYCLE, which combines the elements of the Third and Fourth Levels. The FIFTH LEVEL has as its spectrum the polarities between EXPANSION and ADVENTURE. The SIXTH LEVEL has as its spectrum the polarities of HARMONY and CONNECTION. The SEVENTH LEVEL has as its spectrum the polarities of INCULCATION and ECLECTICISM. All of these are relevant to every Soul Age. Since your interest is in starting with the OLD Soul Age, we will start there for some combining that can help one to see how all of this comes together in helping describe where one is in the process of evolving contexts, perceptions, and consciousness. Because this is an incarnational process, it is not just a process of accepting oneself as BEING Essence, it is a process of accepting the creation of Essence that is YOU. On an Essence Level, this acceptance of BEING is about comprehending one's place in the vastness of the cosmos. This is difficult to comprehend while a Personality is rejecting itself. In order for Essence to learn to accept itself as a creation, it must work through the experiences of Personalities accepting themselves as creations. So every lifetime across the Old Soul Age is about self-acceptance, and this is played out through a multitude of ways. It could be said that every Soul Age, or fragment, works toward self-acceptance, and that is true to some degree, but it is the Old Soul who seeks to accept the unacceptable, to embrace totality of Being, both as Personality and as Essence. The Old Soul does this not through relationships as much as they do through exposure to "the world." This is because the Old Soul has already worked through the myriad forms of relationships during the Mature Soul Age to learn about empathy, but now seeks to work to resolve contradictions, paradoxes, and discrepancies regarding TRUTH. So the Old Soul gets preoccupied with how there are so many different truths when the greater truths are now being seen and comprehended. What is the truth, then? How can one be so invested in "this" truth, when there are "better" truths? It could be said, then, that the "school" of the Young Soul is Energy, and the "school" of the Mature is Love, while the School of the Old is Truth. The Old Soul must make sense of a multitude of conflicting, contradictory, dichotic, and paradoxical truths as a means toward acceptance of one's Being, and the unacceptable. Keeping this larger context in mind as the Old Soul AGE, or this School of Truth, then the Levels are one's map of exploration through that school of truths. So a FIRST LEVEL OLD SOUL would tend to emphasize "the truth" of one's PURPOSE. This tends to be explored through SIMPLICITY, first, and then moves into a sense of direction. It is utterly horrifying to have come "this far" and then find that "we did this just for the fun of it?" That phrasing is in jest, but it is fair. Most fragments who arrive at this Level, or are manifesting at this Level, will succumb to a sense of exhaustion, of a daunting sense that one just wants to "go home," and is dreading the work of making sense of it all, and making sense of the self. Now, adding in the Internal Monads within the Level, one who is, say, at the 3rd Internal Monad within the 1st Level of the Old Soul Age will be a combination of challenges and experiences around Self-sufficiency, Purpose/Simplicity, and Truth. Or put another way: discovering one's Truth of Purpose through Self-Sufficiency. The 4th Internal Monad would be something like refining one's truth of purpose through self-definition. And so on. This gives you the gist of how the combination of terms and levels within levels can have more personal sense made of them. Continuing on, then, the 2nd Level of the Old Soul Age would be about the Truth of Stability, or the Stability of Truth vs the Balance of Truth/Truth of Balance. The 3rd Level would be about the Enterprise or Versatility of Truth. Enterprise here is meant as a term to describe the comprehensive work that is required in an undertaking or project. Versatility is meant here as a scattering of the focus that would otherwise be Enterprising. The 4th Level would be that of the Consolidation or Achievement of Truth. Consolidation here is meant as the full expression of the whole Truth, whereas Achievement is the accomplishment of reaching and expressing the next truth. (We can return to each of these for further elaboration during questions and answers.) The 5th Level is about the Expansion of Truth and the Adventure of Truth. The 6th Level is the Harmony of Truth through the Connections of Truths. The 7th Level is about the Inculcation of Truth and the Eclecticism of Truth. Do each of you see how these simple combination of terms can be relevant to your own Soul Age, presuming it is accurate, and presuming one is not manifesting strongly in focus through a different Soul Age? The Old Soul, even if manifesting at a younger Soul Age, tends to find some conscious resonance to the Soul Age Level. [Maureen] Yes, I do Michael [Kathryn41] yes [MikeClev] yes [Bobby] yes MEntity: We will open the floor to questions now as they relate to the topic. We know the elaboration today has been rather synopsized, but it is packaged so that the terms can be explored by you as students to discover on your own some of the meaning of your Soul Age and Level. QUEUE IS NOW OPEN [DianeHB] Could you elaborate more on what is meant by the "Enterprise of Truth"? I'm not understanding how those two go together. MEntity: As one explores one's relationship to Truth, and the concept of Truth, it tends to be done in steps, or as "Achievements." "I now believe this." "I know this to be true, now." "I understand this, now." "This suddenly makes sense to me." Achievements are the steps, the individual truths upon which greater truths are built. Enterprise is the growing form that is chosen/created through which those truths are expressed. In many cases, this tends to be "the life." The life begins to model the wholeness of the truths. [DianeHB] Ok, I'm starting to see it now. :) MEntity: The 1st Level of any Soul Age is about the exploration of the new perceptions and context. The 2nd Level is about the experimentation with the new perceptions and context. The 3rd Level is about owning those new perceptions and context. The 4th Level is then about bringing that back out into the world in some way. For those who are 4th Level Old, there may be this understanding that one has progressed in the lifetime in definitive steps that lead to plateau, then more steps, another plateau, etc. The steps are achievements; the plateau are Enterprise. It is when one takes a break from learning and moves into applying. Neither is at the expense of the other, of course, but there is emphasis in cycles. Does this help? [DianeHB] Do you mean 3rd Level or 4th Level in that last metaphor? [DianeHB] And yes, it helps MEntity: Correction: we were describing Mid-Cycle, the combination of 3rd and 4th. The Enterprise of Truth as the 3rd Level is the cohesion of one's sense of the truth from all of the Versatility of Truth that one collects across the lifetime. Those at the 3rd Level are learning to own the new perspective and context, but they struggle with many different truths about themselves, about others, about life, the cosmos, etc, eventually pulling them together into a wholeness that is the Enterprise. This is much like the 3rd Internal Monad in that it is one's departure from depending on the truths of others, and collecting one's own. [DianeHB] I see MEntity: This then propels one forward into using one's own truths (enterprise). [DianeHB] I can see this in me as I go through the 4th IM MEntity: The Enterprise aspect is like the infrastructure built of parts collected through Versatility. [royce] I guess what I am looking for is a good definition of what makes adventure more narrow than expansion. for instance, i throw myself into very unfamiliar situations like a recent gathering i went to and from that adventure i feel like a lot of truths came to surface. Adventure leads to truth leads to expansion leads to clearer insight of same truth? thanks MEntity: Polarities often refer to "narrow," but they just as often refer to "divided," or "fragmented." Often these are the same things. You are correct in stating that Adventure can lead to Expansion. It is only when one stays focused on Adventure does one reject Expansion. Expansion will always include Adventure, but Adventure does not always include Expansion. Keep in mind that we are limited in selection of words in various languages, and keep in mind that our use of terms in different contexts can give them different meaning, so the use of Expansion and Adventure here as it refers to the polarities of the 5th Level is different from the use of those terms as Needs. One reaches the Positive Pole "through" the Negative Pole. Only the Negative Pole can be exclusive. The Positive Pole is inclusive. So if you are going on Adventures as means for Expansion, then your Expansion is built from Adventures. For some, though, the emphasis on Adventure is only for stimulation, for distraction, or indulgence and addictions and fetish. Does this help? [royce] very much so, thank you [brian_] Michael could you expand more upon details of the pivotal lifetime that you refer to as MID-CYCLE. What makes it pivotal, why is it important, what tends to occur during this lifetime, what effects does it have in Essence evolution? MEntity: Our earlier response to Diane was for this question, in that the Mid-Cycle is a combination of both the 3rd and 4th Level Polarities because those Polarities are so similar. They are so similar because one is about the cohesion of the infrastructure, or the underlying foundation, upon which, and through which the expression will come. It is unique in that two Soul Levels overlap, if you will. This makes the lifetime and Personality a bit confusing as there is a dance between the introspection and the expression, often as extremes, or at least as contradictions and inconsistencies. It can be a pivotal lifetime because it "makes or breaks" the infrastructure that was secured during the 3rd Level, and there would tend to be a Review within the life, or after, that pulls it apart and rebuilds it. [Maureen] Please elaborate on what is meant by the Inculcation of Truth and the Eclecticism of Truth at Level 7 MEntity: This might be understood as the difference between living your truths as a means of teaching, healing, contributing, versus using them to differentiate yourself from, above, or below others. Inculcation comes from repetition of application and modeling of your truths. Eclecticism is deriving the truth from various sources, often then adjusting one's truths to adapt to others' truths. Eclecticism is also an inconsistency in one's truths so that some are traded for more convenient ones, or appealing ones, or comfortable ones, etc. Eclecticism is that fragmentation of one's truths so that one begins to wonder what the hell one actually really knows. Inculcation is the ownership of the responsibility one now has that comes with wisdom. It is not just something that makes one special, or unique and different. Does this help? [Maureen] Yes it does, Thanks Michael MEntity: We can take one more question, but we must conclude after that. [GeraldineB] As Sage-casted Sage in the 4th Old Soul Level, I can't distinguish which plays a bigger role in my near obsession with truth. In fact, I can see this as a problem with all Old Sages. How do Sages validate being Old Soul vs other Soul Ages? MEntity: Sages tend to always be focused on some exploration and play with the "truth," but it is in the Old Soul Age that INTEGRITY and truth become synonymous. Another way to put this is that honesty becomes priority. By the time one is an Old Soul, or an Old Sage, the spectrum of definition for "the truth" is well-known and understood, so it becomes far more important to the Sage that there is integrity and honesty in one's truth, whatever that truth may be. This sense of honesty and integrity becomes extremely nuanced and sensitive to the Old Sage. More accurate meaning can often be found between the words and behaviors of others than the Sage often cares to deal with, but it grows like a "sixth sense." Does this help? [GeraldineB] Yes -- especially belief systems MEntity: That is one way for how the Old Sage can validate his Old Soulness: the sense of priority for Integrity and Honesty. [GeraldineB] When that is all one has, it's all one knows. [GeraldineB] so, it's not really a validation MEntity: To match that internal validation, it can also be of help to observe or be open to the feedback from others about one's own integrity and honesty. These may tend to be prominent areas of discussion, challenges, or sensitivity from others for the Sage, as well. For many Old Sages, this is a familiar area of defense because others may bring it up about the Sage, as well, in some way. We can elaborate on each Role within the Soul Ages in further exchanges.
  2. Michael Speaks 021410 MEntity: Hello to all of you. We are here now. We understand the subject for discussion is our perspective on Love as defined by what some call "Levels," others call "degrees," though we think the word "rings" carries a more accurate visual for how these manifest in your life. We also know that we have already provided text documentation of this topic that can be referred to as part of this discussion. What we will do here, then, is synopsize our perception, so as to make more time for your questions. In that synopsis, however, we will emphasize and elaborate upon key considerations that we feel may be meaningful. We would first want to emphasize that your Universe, in all of its variations and parallels and dimensions and physical space and distance, internally and externally, is ALREADY LOVE, ALREADY LOVED, and ALREADY LOVING. There is no way around that Universal Truth. Love is an independent state, quality, action, etc that is not affected by any beliefs, time, distance, feelings, plane, etc. LOVE simply IS. We would define Love as NON-ATTACHMENT. This is often described as "unconditional," as there are no conditions where Love is not present, no conditions under which Love is not accessible, no symptoms upon which its presence is dependent. When we define Love as Non-Attachment, we mean that its existence is not contained or limited by any symptom, shape, or expectation. We also mean that Love is INCLUSIVE, so that no state, no feeling, no action, no expectation that can be conceived is not a PART of Love. To help you in imagining exactly what Love is as a Universal Truth, shift this concept to the idea of Energy as it exists among you. Energy comes in all shapes, dimensions, and times, and it exists not just within all of those things, but those things exist within it. In the same way that you could travel to another star system and find Energy as a matter of fact, so would you find Love, regardless of what it is called, or how it is perceived and shared or rejected. Because the concept of Love and all of its ramifications has either become so "cliche," or so attached to symbols and symptoms, we think it is important to emphasize the fact that Love exists, not just in those instances, but beyond those in a way that is far more abundant when acknowledged. When the fact and existence of Love is acknowledged and embraced within one's life, it is no less-powerful than acknowledging and embracing the impact of your Truths, and your Energy. Embracing and acknowledging your Truths simply means to bring a conscious awareness to the fact that your experiences are dictated by your interpretations, and to then take responsibility for those interpretations. Embracing and acknowledging your Energy simply means to bring a conscious awareness to the fact that your actions, reactions, decisions, and choices are the primary creators of your life, and to then take responsibility for those actions, reactions, decisions, and choices. Embracing and acknowledging your Love simply means to bring a conscious awareness to the fact that YOU ARE ULTIMATELY SAFE, and then to take responsibility for appropriately enlisting protection as necessary, instead of at every turn. There is no more immediate way for you to call on the power of Love than to still yourself with the reminder that YOU ARE ULTIMATELY SAFE. We have said that Truth is the Greatest Good (energy), and that Love is the Highest Truth. We say this for several reasons. One of those reasons is to reflect the fact that calling upon the power of Love automatically pulls in the higher values of Truth and Energy. This pattern will always be the same: Energy is shaped from Truth is shaped from Love :: Love aligns all of these. One can take responsibility for the power of Truth, which immediately aligns one's power of Energy, but still not experience the validity of Love. One can take responsibility for the power of Energy and learn how to choose, and choose how to learn, but still remain lost against Truth and Love. However, combining the process so that one leads to the next, leads to Love. OR calling upon the power of Love immediately includes the previous processes. In other words, when you know you are safe, you are able to make better choices, and more clearly utilize your truths. In addition to this, once you have embraced your safety on such a profound level, it immediately drops the useless, outdated, and unnecessarily protective truths and choices/energies. Making this statement of safety helps one to validate exactly what threats there may very well be, and then to respond to those more effectively, and it helps one to see where the lies are being told to oneself about the threats in life that are merely echoes of pain, confusion, longings, etc. and then to tend to those more effectively. When one makes the statement I AM ULTIMATELY SAFE, if there is a consciousness brought to that statement, one should feel the body immediately relax, the mind to slow, the forehead, face, jaw, back, torso, shoulders, feet, hands, tongue, etc. all fall into a simple presence. The Physical Plane is a plane filled with threats to the body and experiences can and do harm one's psyche and other subtle bodies, but the greatest threat to older soul that causes the greatest debilitation and scathing is the constant sense of lacking safety. When we speak of Safety here, we speak to the fact that in most instances, there are no immediate threats to warrant your fear, and certainly not to warrant your rejection of Love. We also speak to the fact that every worst-case scenario is death, and even then, you are ultimately safe. Growing older in soul age does not mean you grow weary of the Physical Plane, as most have presumed is the case for the Old Soul, but instead you grow attached to the Physical Plane and to your creation of more and more refined Personalities that you nurture so lovingly. You being to "love this place." So when we speak of your Safety, and you state that you are ultimately safe, you are speaking on behalf of both Personality and Essence. The irony in the increased attachment to the Physical Plane and to the various Personalities is that the blows to your attachment is what leads to that final lifetime wherein it is grasped that you can truly Love and be Loved in a way that has expanded absolutely beyond attachment to any symbol, shape, or symptom. And from that perspective, it is a profound realization that nothing was, or ever will be, lost. We have much to say on the subject of Love, of course, and our time is limited through this channel in this format at this time, so we will open the floor now to your questions, if you have any, and leave the synopsis to be included in the final transcript. * MEntity OPENS THE FLOOR [Student] Greetings Michael. I have a question about terminology. What you term Love has been called different things in different philosophies, surely. What are these names? What would it be called in Alchemy, Kabbala, Chinese Taoism or the Gurdjieff system? And why do you see Love as the preferred term (if you do)? Thank you. MEntity: Regardless of language or terminology or teaching, we would say that this state by any name would be one of RESONANCE, EQUIVALENCE, AFFECTION, etc. We do not have a preference, though we do see the word "Love" as being more capable of embracing all of the variations, as opposed to a more specific word. In Alchemy and Kabbala, "Love" is often represented in phrases described by "Laws," whereas in Taoism and Gurdjieff, "Love" is represented by parables and pondering. [Student] It seems to me that the word "acceptance" comes very close to Love, while lacking its more sentimental qualities. MEntity: The reason we refer to Resonance, Equivalence, and Affection is because they hint at the ultimate state of Love, which is not only inclusive and embracing, but capable of adapting to, or altering, the frequency of that which is Loved. Acceptance is a word we've chosen to represent the highest capabilities of the Personality for manifesting Love. Striving for Agape (affection), the positive pole, moves one toward manifestation of Essence, which is the only aspect of "you" that can truly Love. [Student] Re. Gurdjieff, I was thinking of the Affirming, Denying and Neutralizing forces. MEntity: The Personality is incapable of truly Loving (complete non-attachment), and it is painful and cruel to pretend that it is possible; however, when Essence is present, which can happen in a single moment of safety, then Love is capable of being present. We can comment on Gurdjieff's interpretation of our teaching and the process of Love at another time as that would be an elaboration that this allotted time frame does not allow. [Student] Thank you Michael for the teachings today. Through my few experiences in this incarnation with relationships, whether it be colleagues, friends, close friends or failed attempts at intimate relationships, I have found myself at the end of those relationships feeling guilty and shameful for having allowed myself to love another person, often due to my own causes for the various failures of the relationship. How do I begin to correct this so that I no longer fear love or fall in love with being in love, so to speak? Thank you. MEntity: The most powerful means we know of for bringing Love to a relationship, before, during, and after, is to bring into your awareness the state of PERMISSION. We use this word to describe the act of acknowledging all of the dirty, shameful, guilty levels of your experience, allowing yourself to process these, while embracing the fact that Love has plenty of room for all of that. That would be the initial starting point for transforming those energies; the Permission to experience them. [Student] I don't quite understand what you mean, could you elaborate? [Student] How do I experience them without becoming completely absorbed by them? MEntity: They are YOUR experiences. They are YOUR choices. They are YOUR defenses. You implemented them for a reason and that is reason enough. You do not have to justify them, nor do you have to make sense of them. You simply encourage yourself to allow room for those interpretations of your experiences. In the act of giving yourself permission to feel the way you feel, to interpret life the way you choose to at the moment, you then make room for other possibilities. [Student] The few times I have allowed myself to feel those emotions often lead to large set-backs in life, and so to some degree from those, I fear them. MEntity: The more you resist, shame, reject, and fear what these interpretations are, or what they may mean, the more you become addicted to them in a way that then becomes preemptive. We would say say that if it is true that you allowed yourself to embrace those interpretations, then either those "setbacks" were a part of the process of opportunity for you to transform your experiences. Otherwise, the setbacks were an extension of your resistance to the interpretations. What we mean by "permission," is not the same thing as "indulgence." [Student] could you explain the difference in this sense? MEntity: Permission is not consuming. It is not overwhelming. It is not further indulgence. It is a method for processing. [Student] By further indulgence, do you mean obsessing? MEntity: In other words, it could be said "I feel this way now, and that is okay, but it is not the truth." FEELINGS are never the truth. They are simply indicators of how you are interpreting the truth. Therefore, to try to make sense of your feelings in way that matches the truth can be a painful and unending process. [Student] Isn't Love a feeling? MEntity: When we say that Feelings are never the truth, we merely say that feelings are your response to what you have determined is true. Therefore, examining your feelings is only going to give you a pale reflection of the truth. [Student] So then as my final question on this, how might I dig deeper to see beyond the feelings? MEntity: So when we state that permission is powerful, we are suggesting that you allow your feelings to exist, while making room for the truth beyond those feelings. We realize we have not solved your dilemma, but we must conclude here as we have already run over Troy's allotted time frame for this session. Good evening to each of you. Goodbye.
  3. Michael Speaks - Soul Ages and Levels (01/09/11) Troy Tolley, Channel [MEntity] Hello to each of you. We are here now. We will begin with the discussion on the topic of Soul Ages and Levels. We realize we have shared a great deal of information and insight into this concept, but every aspect of our teaching has dimensions that may resonate at different points in the life, and to different students and different times, so our returning to "basics" does not have to be a review, or rehash, but a new spiral or layer of that concept. One of the reasons we think it is helpful to return to the basics at various points is because our initial sharing of this teaching in the form that you currently understand it was shared in a highly-generalized and simplified way, and through the perspective of the average Soul Age of Young at the time. Our teaching does not change, but the understanding of it changes depending on the perspective that is interpreting it. For instance, there is a very basic way to understand the Role of Sage, in general, and then there are the differentiation of layers or evolution that bring dimension to that Role. For example, understanding the Sage as a goofy, obnoxious, self-indulgent, talkative, attention-seeking Role is highly-generalized, and though accurate as a single dimension of that Role, only describes the Sage as the average Young Soul might manifest the Role. The description, or dimension, of the Role of Sage as an Old Soul will include this Young Soul version, but age affects how a Role is played or manifested, and the Old Soul Sage is often nothing like the general description, or the Young version. Whereas the the Young dimension of the Sage can be a clown and an attention-seeker, the Old version is the wise child whose emphasis is more on the integrity of communication and meaningful exchange, than on the attention that it would bring. And so it goes that the Soul Ages carry within them dimensions that might be fltered or highlighted by your own Soul Age. So, for instance, the Young Soul to an Old Soul looks and feels and is experienced quite differently from how a Young Soul would experience another Young Soul. What we will do today is discuss with you the Soul Ages as they may be experienced by our Students, who are more often Mature and Old, and this may help build upon the generalized concept. Your questions will help us to shape the information more relevantly. First, we will mention the underlying pillars for Soul Age that are relevant regardless of perception: Soul Age is an Essence's self-measurement for EXPERIENCE. Nothing more. Soul Age is an Essence's self-measurement of Experience based upon that individual Essence's agenda only. There is no one, or no thing, monitoring this beyond that single Essence. To elaborate: one fragment's movement through a Soul Age may include completely different experiences than another fragment's experiences through that same Soul Age. That is because - Soul Age is a measurement of evolution/maturity of the Essence, and any experience can be used to propel that evolution/maturity. Soul Age is ONE INTERPRETATION of the evolution of experiences of Sentience, but is not a singular map that all find relevant or meaningful. It is a map for older souls, and is useless to most before that level of maturity. There are other maps used by younger soul ages. In other words, sharing this map "with the world" would not solve the problems of the world, nor would it encourage awareness beyond the capacity that is already present in younger Soul Ages. Presuming that this concept is as profound a map for the young or baby soul as it is for the mature or old soul, is like presuming that a map of Disney Land is as useful and meaningful for the toddler or teen as it is for the adults. We can go further to say that even many adults, or older souls, may not find the map useful or meaningful. Continuing - Soul Age is not a map that is imposed upon Sentience, anymore than the aging body is imposed upon a Personality. It is simply part of the nature of evolution and maturity. In other words, there are no requirements for that maturity and evolution, only markers. Soul Age is a map that we generated from learning about how our Essences learn and evolve, though that evolution was already long in place before the map was generated. The map of Soul Ages is cyclical, and not linear, despite the apparent progression. Regardless of Soul Age, EVERY Personality is born "reset" to an Infant Soul status of consciousness, and must, if the Personality chooses to do so, find its way back into whatever Age and Level of consciousness and maturity the Essence has reached previously. To some extent, the same could be said for the Essence at every new LEVEL within a Soul Age, and especially at every new Soul Age. For the Personality, this may make sense, since the vehicle is completely new; a new brain and body that must adjust to and share the life with Essence, if it chooses to do so. However, for every new Level, Essence also "resets" and cycles back through what it has learned to that point, and must then build upon that, much like the Personality must regain consciousness over the lifetime to a point that can then draw upon Essence's history. Before we elaborate further, we will take up to 3 questions relevant to what we have shared so far. ***QUEUE OPEN FOR 3 QUESTIONS*** [Question] "Cyclical, not linear" - I visualize the "levels" as being in line with each other, e.g. all 6s "above" each other - a spiral That is "exactly" how it is. We qualify the word "exactly" because we mean it only in terms of a visual interpretation. That is a fair and accurate visual. When one is in the 6th Level of any Soul Age, all other 6th Levels are activated and explored. That "activation and exploration" are on an Essence level for the most part, but would also be relevant to which lifetimes tend to be resonant to that lifetime. We think some insight might be gained from the recursive sequence of what has come to be called the "Fibonacci Spiral." [Question] I would like to ask for an elaboration of Essence resetting when a new level is achieved within the same lifetime, i.e., as XXX did. Is this why she is recycling through earlier levels as Essence resets? That "resetting" is relevant to what we have come to describe as the Internal Monads. There are Internal Monads that the Physical Body and Personality build through, and Internal Monads that Essence builds through. Every Level of Soul Age is a pass through 7 Internal Monads. Every Personality's progress through its own Internal Monads contributes to the progression of Essence through its own Internal Monads. Every Personality starts over with the First Internal Monad in every lifetime, no matter how far a previous Personality has progressed in a previous life. Every Essence starts over with a First Internal Monad in every new Level, because each Level is a completion, or cycle through, 7 Internal Monads. To help clarify: Every Personality goes through a progress of "waking up" within a lifetime because it is a completely new lifetime; Every Essence goes through a progress of "waking up" within a new Level, because it is a completely new Level. A simple metaphor might be that Essence entering a new Level from a previous Level is like an evolving Personality might enter a new relationship after having been in a previous relationship, or moving to a new city after having lived in a different city before. It is not that all is lost, so much as that all that has been learned must now be applied in a fresh context. [Question] How does one explain the soul that remembers a prior life under 5 years of age? Did these essences choose to remember their soul age? It can take UP TO 7 years for a new Personality to embrace and bring through, so to speak, Essence, but for the older souls, that time is often much shorter. The greater the level of maturity or consciousness that Essence brings to a new life, the greater the resource that the new Personality can access, if it chooses to do so. Depending upon the culture and imprinting that is the environment for the new Personality, the child may not only bring Essence in more quickly, but that child's filters may also allow for those "memories" to flow freely. In some societies, such as some within India, reproductive imagination is encouraged in children and they are "allowed" to voice memories that defy reason. In other societies, such as in the United States, those memories are not encouraged, and creative imagination is encouraged over reproductive imagination. Every lifetime, regardless of the fact that it is new, with a new body, and new Personality, will always be built upon the Instinctive Center of the "previous" lifetime, carried forth like a disc from one body to the next by Essence. That Instinctive Disc, if you will, is the mini-Akashic Records of that particular Essence, and depending upon the level of consciousness accessible to the new Personality, can be read and accessed by that new Personality. [Question] Follow up: how do we create a stage for the child to bring in essence and allow memories to flow freely? There is no real way to create that stage in a way that prompts the memories, but there are ways that one can encourage the exploration of those memories when the child begins to speak of them, if he or she does so. A child will either speak of them, or not, depending upon that Personality's personal process of regaining consciousness. If the environment is open to that, and the Personality speaks of these memories, then the validation can occur. However, to prompt a child to speak of past life memories, rather than simply allow for that child to speak of them if he or she does so, can often lead to false memories, confusion, and delusions. In short, simply paying attention and being open is enough. Responding to "Dracula": The impact and extraction of knowledge from experiences is subjective, but the markers are static. [Question] Static, not "objective"? This might be understood through the metaphor of passing through a city that has specific streets that will crossed on the way through, but different speeds and vehicles may be used to pass. In addition to that, some may rest, some may crash, some may backtrack, some may sight-see, but all of those variations will not change the terrain. We chose the word "static" because, though the markers may remain in place, even the interpretation of them will be subjective. Much like the fact that a city may have a definitive terrain, but many maps to highlight various ways through it, depending upon the interest of the one choosing the map. We will continue with the topic and return to questions in a moment. We have already mentioned this in response to questions, but we will elaborate here on the Soul Age process: One Internal Monad is a level of maturity, awareness, consciousness gained by a Personality or multiple Personalties over lifetimes; 7 Internal Monads = 1 Level of a Soul Age; there are 7 Levels within a Soul Age; there are 7 Soul Ages for Essence. An Internal Monad is a process of resolving a division; a kind of return to wholeness that is greater than the sum of its parts. For instance, the 1st Internal Monad is the resolution between Physical and Essence that is "life." By the way, just "being born" is not necessarily a completed 1st Internal Monad, but we will elaborate upon the Internal Monads in another discussion. Understanding that Soul Ages are built from these processes of resolution can help one to see the vast beauty and magnitude of what it means to evolve, growing from fragmentation, through resolution, and returning to wholeness. Every Level then is one layer, or one dimension, of fragmentation "healed" for Essence, or more accurately put, "regained." When your Essence chooses a Role, it carries forth its own kind of "disc" into that new Grand Cycle of lives as that new Role and new sentient species, but in every other sense, it fragments itself and loses all "memory" of anything "before." Therefore, it could be said that every fragment is in a process of collecting itself back from the universe in which it is exploring. In the same way that we exist as fragments of Tao that eventually return, so are each of you fragmented "out" into your Grand Cycle "ahead of you," and then the compulsion toward wholeness propels the cycle. In a very simplistic and crude description, every Essence "hides" fragments of itself throughout the universe, and the process of evolution is the recovery of those fragments. That process of recovery is different for every Soul Age. For the Infant Soul, this process comes from tangible contact with the world, a kind of feeling around in the dark, and relies greatly upon TOUCH as the navigating tool. For the Baby Soul, this process of recovery comes from extremes of experiences, a kind of tight-rope walking that can find most of itself in every fall from the rope, relying greatly upon BALANCE as the navigating tool. For the Young Soul, this process of recovery comes from opportunities and investments, or indulgences, toward its greatest idea of itself; a kind of constant following of a frequency or tone, making HEARING one of its primary tools for navigation. For the Mature Soul, this process of recovery comes from recognition and empathy, finding and recovering extensions of the self that reside in others, making SIGHT a primary navigational tool. For the Old Soul, this process of recovery comes from pleasure, reunion, happiness, and play, because it can now recover the parts of self that never stopped to enjoy so many things along the way, making SMELL/TASTE a primary navigational tool. When we associate these senses with the Soul Ages as navigational tools, they are not always so direct and literal, but often they are. For instance, in a Young Soul society, music tends to blossom and evolve as a primary medium because "hearing" is so pronounced. Other Soul Ages enjoy music, of course, but for other reasons. For instance, in the United States, the "music industry" is heavily populated by Young Souls, and Young Souls are attracted to that medium of recovery in droves. The phrase "marching to the beat of a different drummer" is a Young Soul phrase because Identity is so important to the Young Soul. This is NOT to say that music is synonymous with Young Souls, but that Young Souls tend toward SOUND, both literally and figuratively, as a means of recovering fragments of Essence, or finding themselves, so to speak. Young Souls are often the loudest among you. A Mature Soul may use music to explore himself, express, or heal himself, but not necessarily as a way to recover or find himself. As your world moved into Mature Soul consciousness, you can see the shift from Radio to TV, for instance, or from music to videos. Even the phone is on its way to being replaced by video conferencing because the Mature Soul uses SIGHT as a means of navigating for recovery of itself. The Old Soul recovers itself through remembering how to enjoy living and being in a body, so two very primitive senses are called upon: smell and taste, which are fairly dependent upon each other, and help the body and Personality toward that which feels good. Smell and Taste affect the entire system that is the Body and the Personality, bringing a synthesis when allowed. In other words, the more an Old Soul allows itself to enjoy, love, accept, and live through its body, the more it recovers its fragments of self and returns to a wholeness. Briefly, the Transcendental Soul uses Orientation, and the Infinite Soul uses Relationality as navigational tools for the recovery of fragments. Of course, on the scale of the Infinite Soul, those fragments are all Essences relative to that species of Sentience. Another way to understand the Soul Ages from a student's perspective, and not necessarily as a generalized perspective, would be by seeing the polarities of the Soul Ages and how those may manifest through a Personality. To accommodate the limitation of time for this chat, we will quickly share those: The Infant Soul manifests Positively as INNOCENCE, and Negatively as DISSONANCE. The Baby Soul manifests Positively as REFLECTION, and Negatively as REJECTION. The Young Soul manifests Positively as ACCOMPLISHED, and Negatively as ENTITLED. The Mature Soul manifests Positively as PERCEPTIVE, and Negatively as PROJECTIVE. The Old Soul manifests Positively as INCLUSIVE, and Negatively as EXCLUSIVE. Though we can elaborate upon all of these, we will quickly say that the Mature Soul, when manifesting Positively, is capable of seeing beyond the obvious, the logical, the superficial, and does not require "reasons" for what is known. It simply Perceives. It can truly SEE. The Mature Soul manifesting Negatively loses its capacity to Perceive and simply Projects, turning everyone into props and players for his or her own drama, never truly seeing others because of the preoccupation with seeing (finding) the self. The Old Soul manifesting Positively is Inclusive because everything and everyone is experienced as a part of the greater whole, including all of the previous Soul Ages within itself. This leads to an adaptability that allows for finding parts of the self in places and people it never would have thought of on its own, if you will. This Old Soul can draw upon its previous tools for navigation at will because it has accepted those tools, and will use them appropriately to navigate or understand those in younger Soul Ages. Everything is experienced and interpreted as "food for the soul," so to speak. The Old Soul manifesting Negatively become Exclusionary, aligning itself only with the "like-minded," seeking refuge and intimacy only those who feel "safe," and even then keeping a wall of isolation around the self as part of the interaction. This dependence upon the condition of safety never allows the Personality and Body to enjoy the life to the fullest, often resorting to the forming of secrets, imaginary relationships, and the equivalent of soul masturbation. Keep in mind that the Negative Poles we describe are a part of the spectrum and process for any term we are describing, and do not indicate what not to do or be. They simply describe the more limited end of that spectrum, as well as the end through which all will enter in that context. For instance, ALL Old Souls will go through an Exclusionary phase before it will move into an Inclusionary phase. That is natural. [Question] You mean within a single lifetime? ALL Mature Souls will move through a Projective phase before it can Perceive. That would depend upon the individual, but for the most part, yes. Every Old Soul within each of its Old Soul lifetimes will still have to regain the consciousness of that Old Soul awareness, and that means the Personality would go back through a phase of Exclusion before Inclusion. As every Old Soul in this "room" can attest, if there is an honest assessment, the Exclusionary phase is all too familiar. We will open the floor for questions, but will end our responses in 15 minutes to accommodate our channel's and students' time limitations. ***QUEUE IS NOW OPEN*** [Question] You said in an earlier chat that Religion was the playground of the baby soul and Politics was the playground of the Young soul. What are the equivalent structures for the other ages (especially Mature Soul)? My guess is "Community" We could say that RELATIONSHIPS are the playground of the Mature Soul, and IMAGINATION is the playground for the Old Soul, and THE UNKNOWN is the playground of the Infant Soul. By extension, "Community" would be included in Relationships. [Question] Hello Michael =) Could you elaborate, or give pointers as to (learn) how to access our mini-Akashic disc you mentioned? The greatest direct access each of you have to your Instinctive Centers/Akashic Records is IMPULSES. Impulses are prompts that stem from the Instinctive Center in a way that each fragment eventually learns to read/interpret, and trust. Impulses are not the same as Compulses, as Impulses always include Choice, whereas Compulsions feel as if one has no choice. Impulses will always lead the Personality along paths that are a part of the higher pattern of its existence, and of Essence. Those Impulses are directly from one's Instinctive Center and directly relevant to the current lifetime in some way. Impulses are not indications of a "right" way to do something, or a "right" thing to do, direction to go, choice to make, etc, but simply indicative of possibilities relevant to what is active in those personal records. [Question] Would that be what feels like that "little voice inside" - same as intuition? Yes, that is often how Personalities interpret the Impulses, however, there is a difference between Intuition and Impulse. Intuition is a synthesis of information gathered from various senses and sources that then must be interpreted, whereas an Impulse is a kind of immediate Knowing. For instance, one might use Intuition to help decided which city or part of city to move to, or which home "feels" right, but an Impulse would be the Knowing that it is time to move. It could be said that Intuition can be a navigational tool for fulfilling an Impulse. [Question] I am 7th Level Old and my husband is 7th Level Mature -- I have been thinking for some time that this is not a coincidence -- from the perspective of our soul levels discussion today and in a way that would be relative to everyone :) -- please comment. That would be valid, Maureen. Fragments will often find themselves in association with, relationship with, attracted to, repulsed by, those who share the same LEVEL, but different Soul Age. This is part of the process for a fragment to cycle (back) through a Level. Though an Essence may be a 5th Level Old Soul, clearly having moved beyond the 5th Levels of the previous Soul Ages, it does not mean the value of revisiting or exploring those levels within is meaningless, concluded, or lost. This is part of the spiral we described earlier. For those who did not get a question in for us, we can suggest posting your question to the forum where this transcript will eventually be posted, and then it will be there for Troy to offer to us as he can for our response to be added. We must conclude here. Good evening to each of you. Goodbye.
  4. This material originated with the March 2010 Michael Speaks. Special thanks to BrianW for posting his copy of the session or the content would have been lost. Although this session suggests that the missing content will be added, this has not yet been done. The roles covered in this session are those that were represented by session attendees. MEntity: Hello to all of you. We are here. We will begin with a discussion on the topic requested. Before doing so, we would like to point out that while it may seem to be the case, it is actually impossible to misrepresent, misunderstand, or misapply our teaching. When we say "impossible," we speak in relative terms that describe the fact of so many nuances and dynamics that go into representation, understanding, and applying our teaching. Our teaching cannot be misrepresented because it is either represented, or it is not. Beyond that, it cannot be misrepresented because if the student is not discerning and questioning beyond the representation, then he or she is not learning anyway. Our teaching cannot be misunderstood because this implies that there is a standard method and means for understanding. The only time this teaching is "misunderstood" is if one standard is held up against another. You will understand this teaching as you understand it. However, we will add to that statement that your understanding is never complete, and to presume that it is would be the end of learning. Our teaching cannot be misapplied, as again, this would imply a neat standard that describes how it "should" be applied. Even when our teaching is used as a platform for justifying behaviors, or to seek a sense of specialness, it is being applied on your terms, and those are the only terms we encourage. However, we would add to that statement that your terms are never fully understood, and to presume that your terms are static is to halt growth. When we say "halt growth" and "the end of learning," we mean these as temporary conditions of the Personality, and not permanent on any meaningful level for Essence. Though Troy's introduction was not intended to provoke this clarification from us, we do think it important to distinguish our channels' opinions from our own. That being said, there is validity to the fact that there is little recorded from us through our channels about the distinctions among the Roles in how they manifest through the Soul Ages, and we can address that today. We must point out, though, that anything we describe about any aspect of our teaching will, by necessity, be "generalized," as there is simply no way to describe ALL Old Sages, for instance. Numerous factors go into the manifestation of a Personality and Essence within a lifetime. Our Teachings can best be understood in both CONTEXTUAL and HOLISTIC terms. Contextual in that each phrase, term, or polarity is distinct within a specific context, and that context is an entity in itself, so to speak. Holistic in that this is a system that works dynamically, "organically," and when understood as a system, comes to life in a way that cannot be fully understood in its parts. For instance, if one were to be described or dismissed as being only a Kidney, it would not capture the full humanity of that individual, but to understand the functioning and purpose of the Kidney is vital on its own. Furthermore, lacking comprehension of the full humanity of that individual leaves one lacking understanding in how that particular Kidney actually functions for that particular person. We say all of this to you before delving into the topic at hand because what we will describe today, for the most part, is CONTEXTUAL. Within the time limits, we will cover Mature and Old Soul contexts for each Role, but will complete the subject with Troy so that Infant, Baby, and Young are included in exploring each Role. Each of the Roles through the Soul Ages could best be understood as manifesting more and more Essence through the Personalities that are created. Essence Manifestation can and does happen within all Soul Ages, but the degrees to which that manifestation occurs does grow. What we will describe today are what those degrees might look like for the Mature and Old Roles, in both positive and negative ways. Keep in mind that regardless of your technical Soul Age, you may be manifesting younger Soul Ages at various points within the life, or for the entire lifetime. For the most part, manifestation of various soul ages is proportional to the various contexts of your life, so that if you work within a Young Soul environment, you may call upon the Young Soul aspects of your Essence, and in Intimate circles, you may call on more of your actual Soul Age. "Manifesting Soul Age" is not static, and is not a description of limitations. It is simply a description of emphasis and resource for the lifetime, a relationship, a career, project, etc. What we describe today is a Role manifesting its actual Soul Age. Because of Personality, this may show up wildly different among that Roles "in the world," so what we describe may only be obvious to you privately. The progression through the Soul Ages for the Roles could be described as a progression of emphasis from DOING to HAVING to BEING. Infant and Baby emphasize DOING. Young emphasizes HAVING. Mature emphasizes the reconciliation between HAVING and BEING. And Old emphasizes BEING. Understanding this can help lend insights into the various Soul Ages and how the Roles manifest. Now we will walk through the Roles as they might be understood in Mature and Old Soul contexts. MATURE SERVERS Mature Servers tend to find themselves struggling with the reconciliation of Having Recognition, and Being Helpful. Over the course of the Young Soul Age, it finally occurs to the Server on a profound level that it is okay to be recognized, praised, rewarded, and that a reciprocating circuit of energy is vital to sustaining Service. Service is not a one-way circuit. One cannot serve where it is not received, and one cannot continue to serve without some form of exchange of nurturing at the very least. For many lifetimes previous to the Young Soul Age, this nurturing is either neglected until it cannot be any longer, or it is found in breaks between Serving. The Young Server then tends to use that entire Age to "catch up" on self-service to the extent that it can. In the Mature Age, then, the reconciliation begins between having that necessity of exchange in nurturing, and the core Being that seeks to serve in meaningful ways. Mature Servers, then, tend to be extremely busy, pulled in many directions, internally and externally, while they struggle with issues of utter availability and ineffective over-extension. The eventual reconciliation comes when the Mature Server only offers service when it can. OLD SERVERS The Old Server now emphasizes Being, and in this case, Being Helpful. At the very core of the Server is the design to HELP. (An aside: At first, all design in the early Soul Ages is manifested as compulsion as the default design is relied upon, but eventually becomes impulsion as the capacity for conscious choice grows.) Old Servers often do not "serve" at all in the capacity that one would think of as serving. The Mature Soul is ACTIVE. The Old Soul is PASSIVE. In this case, the Old Server "passively" Helps. The Old Server then begins to use exemplification as his or her means of offering Help. The entire life, self, and Being become the manifestation of Essence in that the Old Server WILL NOT allow himself or herself to suffer. If help can be gained from that by another, then the Old Server may extend upon that, but it has learned that suffering is a useless experience and will refuse to Help at the expense of self, but will unconditionally Help those who are willing to give up suffering. That may sound conditional, but it is not. It is simply a hard lesson learned that those who suffer most often choose not to be helped in any meaningful way. We define "suffer" here as that state of intellectual and emotional overwroughtness that leaves no room for solutions. Those who suffer in that way eventually learn that they are the only ones who can transform that experience, and all other influences are merely salves or addictions. The Old Server does not cater to that endless dynamic. MATURE ARTISANS The Mature Artisan has just come from an Age where it experienced being able to create and have everything it could possibly imagine within the constraints of resources at the time. The Mature Artisan now enters into an Age that must reconcile Having What It Wants and Being Who It Needs. Previous to this Soul Age, simply wanting something was often enough to have it, because it could either be created, or it could be discovered, and most of what was wanted was tangible and all "new" to the Artisan. In the Mature Soul Age, nothing tangible is "new" anymore, and what is most wanted is often intangible. This causes a struggle for the Mature Artisan so that cravings can often show up as a distraction with "things" as a means to compensate for the intangible, or as rejection of "things" as a means to hold out for the intangible. Mature Artisans can often find themselves in desperate relationships, devastating patterns of collapse and destruction, and manipulative methods for finding ways to be special. More than any other Role, this Role, in general, struggles with the inner battle between Specialness and Uniqueness. What the Mature Artisans eventually realize is that it is THEY whom they crave, desire, and want more than anything "in the world." Therein lies the reconciliation between Having and Being for the Mature Artisan. Artisans tend to develop patterns that leave them functioning only as conduits, often feeling as if "they" are left out, or left behind. During the Mature Soul Age, it is the first time in a long time that they "come home to themselves." And recognize their vital part in the equation of their desires and wants. Until that realization has been comprehended, there will be many instances where the Mature Artisan develops symbiotic relationships that continue to enforce the loss, or blurring, of self with environment or another. OLD ARTISANS The Old Artisan is often no longer concerned with creating tangible things, but struggles to make the entire life the creation, the work of art. Everything around the Old Artisan becomes symbolic and every symbol has meaning in relation to the self. The Old Artisan, then, is often tireless in the effort to showcase the life, the Personality, and even the relationships as symbolic extensions of the Soul. They become extremely sensitive to any deviation or distraction from their own symbology, and can often find themselves bewildered, hurting, and profoundly confused by these things. They develop systems of symbology that work, but often do not realize that these are not always the same symbols or meanings that others will tend to use. Eventually the Old Artisan realizes that there are a multitude of symbols and meanings for symbols that cannot be truly standardized, and this is when the Artisan is finally free. In conclusion for the Old Artisan, if the freedom is not found through the realization of various symbolic systems, then that Artisan may find he or she begins to tunnel-vision into a closed network that only supports his or her system of symbols, and anything beyond that is either a threat, or is ignored. Due to time constraints, we will do our best to streamline the details for each of the following Roles, and Troy will "flesh it out" for the final transcript. We will address Old Warrior, Old Scholar, Old Sage, and Old Priest now. We will include the rest in the final transcript. OLD WARRIORS The Old Warrior has now moved through the Mature Age that helped to reconcile the struggle between HAVING AMBITION and BEING SAFE. During the Mature Age, both of those terms become profoundly redefined so that "ambition" becomes "enthusiasm" and "safe" becomes "loved." The Old Warrior then begins to naturally generate enthusiasm over emphasis on accomplishment and ambition, and begins to persuade circles of love from the self and from others as opposed to circles of protection and safety. Protection is no longer seen in terms of defense against physical threats, but as a transformation of strengths through the capacity to love. This may go counter to what is often understood as a Warrior, but the Old Warrior is done fighting, and seeks to share what it has found to be the most bountiful resource and strength in the universe: Love. Of course, this can show up in many different ways and to several different degrees, but when the Old Warrior is manifested, it has a profound sense of safety in the world and seeks to extend that validity to others. If the Old Warrior has not comprehended that sense of safety, he or she will often show up as emphasizing warnings, concerns, preemptive strategies, and constant over-anticipation. OLD SCHOLARS The Old Scholar has now moved through the Mature Age that helped to reconcile the struggle between HAVING EXPERIENCE and BEING INTIMATE. During the Mature Age, the reconciliation between Experience and Intimacy is a long, often painful, road for the Scholar. Much of what is considered necessary by the Scholar for Experience is to have as "clean" an experience as possible, which often means leaving others out of the inner world that processes these experiences. QUESTION: Could you define intimacy in the sense of your meaning? MEntity: Intimacy here is meant as any form of Resonance, from sharing common ground to sex. The key being that it is INCLUSIVE, in that what is shared is not only mutual, but experienced as mutual. More than any other Role, the Scholar struggles with issues of Intimacy, of feeling connected to others, of finding common ground, and of feeling embraced. The Old Scholar has realized that Experience and Intimacy are not mutually exclusive, but Intimacy has been put off for so long for the sake of experiments, exploration, etc., that the world of Intimacy as an Old Soul is entirely new for the most part. Because the nature of the Scholar is to observe objectively, then this search for Intimacy may often be approached from the angle of provision, in that IF it exists, then it must be something provided for the Scholar, and not something he or she must work to generate from the self. Intimacy is such an amorphous concept to the Scholar that in the Old Soul Age, it will either feign intimacy as a means to have any kind of human contact at all, often leaving it to others to sort out the details, or to nurture that intimacy, or it will finally realize that he or she IS the source of intimacy, and begin to develop this from "the inside, out." The issue for the Scholar is often that if it is not found externally, then it is not a valid Experience, and therefore is not to be trusted. Ironically, anything that is already deemed as so amorphous that it cannot be trusted when generated within will also be deemed suspicious when generated from others. Therefore, the key for the Old Scholar in his or her embrace of Being Intimate is to begin comprehending TRUST. Trust is a mix of anticipated results and past experiences. It is not blind, and therefore it can be used by the Scholar. When the Old Scholar begins to recognize his or her embrace of himself, he or she can then begin to embrace others. If the embrace of others is attempted before the embrace of self, then there will always be an equation that returns the Scholar back to the beginning. They are highly mathematical that way. Trust comes in as the gathering of experience grows to show the Scholar that he or she will not die because he or she reached out, and that one is not alone just because one might actually like oneself. In short, the validity of Being for the Scholar cannot be proven through others, but the validity of others can be proven through the embrace of Being. OLD SAGES The Old Sage has now moved through the Mature Age that helped to reconcile the struggle between HAVING FUN and BEING HONEST. Now the Old Sage begins to emphasize Being Honest, even if it means at the expense of Fun. Old Sages often begin to withdraw from the "stage" and move into tighter circles that value honesty and true communication. It is no longer appealing in any way to simply perform the life. For the first time, the Old Sage values the importance of truly being SEEN. Even if there are a myriad of personas from habit and skill, the emphasis will still be there underlying every relationship and every opportunity: PLEASE SEE ME. This starts out as a kind of panic for some Sages entering the Old Soul Age, in that their existence depends on the utter honesty and rawness of being SEEN, and this can show up in desperate attempts to be understood, clarifying themselves, over-explaining, etc. This eventually levels out to a simple state of invitation. The emphasis moves from needing to be seen exactly how the Sage sees himself or herself to an emphasis on understanding how others actually see. This comprehension frees the Old Sage from the panic and loneliness of not being seen, and moves him or her into simply BEING HONEST. Once the Sage realizes that he or she cannot control how others interpret others, then Being Honest stands as an invitation, not as a prompt. QUESTION: How much of this "role in essence" material applies to casting? MEntity: All of what we have described can be extrapolated to apply to understanding Casting and Imprinting, in terms of Roles. INTERJECTION: I've never thought of Imprinting being a co-equal on use of role descriptors MEntity: For many who live as the Role that most influenced them, it can be helpful for freeing the self by transforming the dynamic that keeps the imprinting locked in place. Imprinting will always supercede Role and Casting, as Personality has the most control and influence while Physical. We should say, Imprinting will always supercede Role, Casting, and Overleaves. INTERJECTION: So, that's why it's especially important to figure out one's parents' profiles :) MEntity: Not necessarily. What would be more important is honest self-examination to determine just how conflicted one is within himself or herself. When Imprinting is useful, there is no conflict. When Imprinting is harmful, there is often pain ranging from apathy to tremendous turmoil. Harmful Imprinting ALWAYS shows up as the reprimanding voice that undermines your efforts. ALWAYS. Harmful Imprinting ALWAYS shows up as any conclusive voice within that divides you and defeats you. Your inherent nature, when free from harmful Imprinting, is truthful, loving, and energetic. When weighed with harmful Imprinting, you become divided with a dishonest, shameful, and undermining force against that inherent nature. However, it must be understood that Imprinting is NEVER PERMANENT and can be shed at any moment. If one struggles for any length of time with that Imprinting that is harmful, then some part of the self finds some value in it. We define "harmful Imprinting" as any Imprinting that has been kept beyond the 3rd Internal Monad that does not serve the Personality and Essence in any helpful way. QUESTION: why and how is it that a personality tends to manifest more essence as it progresses through the soul ages? QUESTION: still don't understand this... QUESTION is personality designed that way by essence? MEntity: The progression of Soul Ages is our way of describing a regaining of consciousness that allows for bridging between the Essence and Personality. That regaining of consciousness is done through experience. Therefore, in early lifetimes that have less experience, then it goes that less consciousness is involved, and thus less manifestation of Essence. Even the Oldest of Souls must regain consciousness within a single lifetime, yet that regaining of consciousness is accelerated because of the sheer weight of experience previous to that lifetime. It is not that manifestation of Essence does not happen within earlier lifetimes, but that the manifestation is specific to the degree of consciousness, relative to the degree of experience. So an Infant Soul can manifest Essence fully into the lifetime, but most of that manifestation would still be within the contexts (or degrees) of Survival. When an Old Soul is born into a body, that infant body is going to drool and wail and poop itself as it focuses on surviving. To that degree, that Personality's consciousness can manifest Essence. As that body grows, so does its capacity for consciousness. In that same way, the ROLE grows for ESSENCE. The Role and Essence are two different things. Therefore, the "body" that is the Role must grow over lifetimes as a means to manifest more of its Essence.
  5. Old Soul / Wild Card is a version of the card game Old Maid for the Overleaf Cards. The game is for 2 or more players. Setup is slightly different between the two variations, but gameplay is the same for both. Setup (Old Soul) Remove all Soul Age cards except for the Mature and Old Soul cards. (Wild cards may be kept or removed as desired) Shuffle the cards. Deal all of the cards out to each player until there are no more cards (some players may have more than others, but this is acceptable). Setup (Wild Card) Keep one of the Wild Cards in the deck and remove the other. Shuffle the cards. Deal all of the cards out to each player until there are no more cards (some players may have more than others, but this is acceptable). Gameplay After all cards have been dealt, players look at their cards and discard any Hands Across pairs that they have face up (any two Assimilation/green cards count as a pair, as do the two wild cards if applicable). The dealer then offers his/her hand face-down to the player to the left. That player takes one card from the dealer without looking and adds it to their hand. The player then sees of the new card forms a pair with any of their original cards. If so, the pair is discarded. That player then offers his/her hand to the player to their left and so on. Players are allowed to shuffle their hand before presenting it to the next player. Play continues in this way until all pairs have been discarded. Losing Once all pairs have been discarded, the player left with the unmatchable card loses. In Old Soul, it is the player holding the Old Soul card. With Wild Card, it is the player left with the singular Wild card. Other Rule Variants Players discard their pairs only after a round of gameplay has occurred (i.e. after the dealer has had the chance to draw a card). Players may enforce a "punishment" system. After the game has ended and the loser determined, the loser then shuffles the cards and draws a card at random. The card determines the player's punishment. An example might be: Soul Age - The loser must truthfully answer a question posed by another player. Role - The loser must perform a task decided by another player. Goal - The loser must play the next game with their dominant hand behind their back. Mode - The loser must play the next game in silence and communicate only by miming. Attitude - The loser must play the next game with one eye closed/blindfolded. Centering - The loser must play the next game standing on one foot. Body Type - The loser must play the next game on another player's lap or with another player on their lap. Chief Feature - The loser must play the next game from under a sheet or blanket. Wild Card - The loser escapes punishment.
  6. Note from Janet: This was pulled from a ning forum as re-posted by Geraldine in 2009. Since the original material was obtained within days of the event, I have added it to the collection of 2001 transcripts. Since we are coming up on the 9/11 Anniversary, and I came across this "Reissue" of the World Trade Center Report -- I'm including it verbatim as posted on the group list. Its point of reference is Sept 11, 2004 with a reissue of the report written and posted on Sept 21, 2001. With the 3rd year anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks coming up, and the Republican Convention looming, and with a rise in recent requests to dig out this original Q&A with Michael, I have decided to send out this report for discussion. Reading it again after all of this time is strange and comforting, and now I have plenty more questions I feel I can ask. Please offer discussion and feedback at your convenience! I am sending this in an email and as a Word Document. Part of the editing I did was add Footer Notes to help define or explain some of the more complicated terminology. Make sure you ask me if you need any clarification of this article. Have a great day! Love, Troy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MICHAEL ON 9/11 This channeling took place ten days after the WTC attack. No other channeling had been publicly offered by that time and I felt it was very important to gain a metaphysical perspective of the event as soon as possible (for my own sake, if for no other reason). Some grammatical editing has occurred since the original sharing. ORIGINAL LETTER: Hello all, This channeling is by no means complete or even that useful, but here is what I got so far. I felt the clarity of connection to Michael opening and took advantage of that, even though I have been deeply affected by physically seeing the event unfold, including seeing one of the towers collapse before my eyes. This channeling may conflict with other channel’s work, but I only ask that you use each piece offered by channels as parts of the same event as described in the dark. Maybe a whole picture could come from that. I am also embarrassed to say that I am in no way an historian and I do not feel comfortable going too far into historical information. I have no clue if "wenis" (what the hell kind of name is that??) or teti are real and part of that time frame (I can't do any internet research from here to validate the channeling), so I am putting this out there with a gamble. PLEASE be gentle, but I would also love any insights to be shared, or questions to be asked, if more information is wanted. Since I posed the question to Michael broadly (“Michael, please comment on this event”), they responded from multiple angles. I am sure some of you can come up with far better, more direct questions. I will do my best to be here and share I what I get. Love, Troy Ps. You are welcome to share this piece with other lists and include credits, of course. I want the right person to be scoffed at! Ha ha... 092101 Michael on the terrorist attack of 091101 MICHAEL: We doubt we will bring much solace to the reality of events that took place on September 11, 2001 in the United States, but we can provide what we are able to gather as the dynamics behind the event, what those dynamics might mean literally and symbolically, and where events may go from there. We have experienced our own tragedies and losses while we were extant and fragmented, feeling deep grief, loss, confusion, and pain over events that were relative to our own progress on Earth. We bring this up to remind you that we have not forgotten what it means to be in a body and a part of humanity. The fact that we are in a position to view events from a Causal perspective does not diminish the process that is part of being Physical. Life can be painful. We remember. We will begin with the dynamics behind this event: This event is one of tangled, yet elegantly-played out Karma between Cadres, Fragments, and Countries. There are symbolic properties to this event, but first we will address the various players as they are known at this time. We will describe them in terms of our system. The fragments involved in the collapse of the World Trade Center were nearly-entirely from the same Cadre. There were other fragments involved from outside of that single Cadre, but most who perished were from entities within Cadre 9, Energy Ring 7[*] . Cadre #9’s are always in the DISCIPLINE Position[†] within its own Energy Ring. Incidentally, nearly all fragments from Energy Ring 7 are involved in some way with the major political positions of the world of the current time. The Discipline Position is defined as the influence that heightens the awareness of the decision making process. People who are in the Discipline Position in your life do not “ride you”, so to speak, nor to they discipline you in the traditional sense of the word, forcing the fulfillment of plans. They simply help create or generate scenarios that bring awareness to the impact of decisions and choices. DISCIPLINE helps see the end results of decision making, often highlighting the far-reaching impact. Through any means available, the Discipline Position will focus on helping move others through procrastinations and distractions toward a more purposeful goal. DISCIPLINE always shows you the road of original intent and keeps you "awake". While this Cadre 9 is the Discipline Position within its own personal Energy Ring, it has also taken upon itself that same position symbolically for the world. Nearly all Cadre #9’s will feel a deep motivation to play their parts in their own Energy Rings as a Discipline theme and this motivation will be amplified by this event. Many fragments who are organizing actions for fund-raising, protests, and even further attacks in the shadow of this tragedy are from Cadre 9 of other Energy Rings. The Configurations[‡] on each jet liner were Septets[§], consisting of Cadence Mates[**] of various forms. For example, two groups of 5 have been brought to light and these are all Warrior Fragments within the same Cadences within their own Entities. These two groups of 5 are missing the other members of their Configuration/Cadence (2 fragments missing from each group). Another two groups of 4 were of varying Roles from within a single Cadre and from different Entities. The latter Cadence/Configuration consists of one Cadence/Configuration being the 33rd Fragment from each Entity within that Cadre; the other Cadence/Configuration consists of the 107th fragments of each Entity from within that Cadre. Each of these groups of 4 is missing 3 members each from the Cadence/Configuration. The missing fragments from each Septet appear to be discarnate. It is important to note that it just happens to be that the Septet Configurations are made up of actual Cadences. This is not always the case. A Septet can be made up of any fragments from anywhere, while a Cadence doesn’t necessarily create a Configuration. There were many other Septet Configurations involved that day, but they were diverted without much mention in the media. We are aware of at least 10 other hijackings that were diverted that morning, all unwittingly and/or specifically removed from the count for fear of a larger panic. We also believe the actual count of those who perished in the World Trade Center will be higher than the factual count. (Note: the number originally assumed dead turned out to be much lower in the end) The fragments on each jet liner who perished did so for their own “reasons”, of course. It may be obvious to many of our Students that this event in nearly all its manifestations was not a Karmic Balance, but rather a Karmic Creation. Those who perished in the Pentagon were most involved with the burning of Karmic Ribbons, but nearly all others involved were not. The Karmic Ribbons of those in the Pentagon and Philadelphia crashes were shared in various fashions between the hijackers, the passengers, the families connected, and occupants of the one building. We encourage you to “feel” the difference between the World Trade Center energy and the energy of the other two attacks. You may sense the difference then between Karmic Balance and Karmic Creation. The complexities of all the Ribbons created and/or burned is a topic unto itself and we would offer discussion of this angle if our students wish. The fragment who is the media’s focal point of responsibility behind this entire event is Osama bin Laden, a 5th Level Young King with Priest Casting, an Idealist in Observation Mode sliding to Perseverance, Moving Centered, Intellectual Part, with Chief Features of Stubbornness and Arrogance, with a discarnate Priest Essence Twin, and 3 Task Companions consisting of all Servers, Server Cast. He is from Energy Ring 5, Cadre 9, and Entity 6. This fragment, ironically, is acting primarily from his True Personality[††], completely true to his Soul Age and Level. Whether this is compatible with the rest of the world is not the consideration of a Young Soul. There are many atrocious fragments in history who were living from the Positive Poles of their Overleaves. The 5th Level of any Soul Age is entirely about creating Karma and pushing the boundaries of limitations that have been instilled from previous generations. The 5th Level in the Young Soul Cycle is going to push these boundaries and limitations within the playground of competition and physical effect. Though this fragment is enthralled in creating Karma, this event was inspired by a Karmic Ribbon shared between himself and the current President of the United States. We will address this in a moment. This King fragment truly believes his mission is guided by and supported by his god, and we would say it would be hard for him to think differently, considering the near-consistent successes and uncannily smooth implementation of his plans being fulfilled across time. He feels his god is on his side. Though his actions are corrupt in relation to the more loving paths that could be chosen, so are the many things that have led this fragment into the position in which he believes himself to be. Part of his motivation stems directly from actions and choices made by the collective choices of the U.S. as they affect his beliefs and country. This is not our stance of justification, merely a reminder that this situation has a larger dynamic than what is seen on the superficial level. This leads us to the crux of this Karmic situation: the culmination of a high-profile Karmic balance between the Late Baby Scholar fragment who is George Bush, Jr. and Late Young King Fragment known as Osama bin Laden. The Karma between them is a Major Ribbon seeking to be burned, though many more Karma will likely be created in the process, which is not unusual for the early Soul Ages. A side note: It may appear that the fragment who is now George Bush, Jr. would be a Warrior, or at least a Young or Mature Soul, but these deductions are based on outward characteristics that can be attributed to generic interpretations of our terminology. This Scholar does have strong Warrior imprinting and is Warrior-Cast, however. It may appear this Scholar is strategic, but the strategies are those of his strong Support Circle. This is not to say that the Scholar does not agree with or contribute to these strategies, but for the most part this fragment would be lost without that support and direction. It may also appear that this fragment is bent on eager Young Soul values or identifying Mature Soul equality and fairness, but these qualities are only a relaying of that which is being expressed through him of others’ ideals. Stripped of this strong circle of support, this fragment is terrified and confused as to what is going on beyond his personal world. The Karma between the King and the Scholar originated in Egypt, nearly 4000 years ago at the beginning of the 6th Dynasty. The King fragment, known then as Wenis, was murdered by those directly assigned by the Scholar fragment who was then known as Teti. Investigating this history (which appears to be accurately recorded) should shed light on this now-escalated Karmic event. The destruction of the icon of the World Trade Centers parallels a past bold erection of the Pyramid of Teti, which also collapsed in a pile of rubble, killing many. The memory and records of Wenis and all of his fine contributions to the kingdom led him to be equated with the god, Osiris. Those who “follow” Osama now are those who revered him as Wenis/Osiris then. Teti is obscured by history and found to be a minor, if not negligible, leader in history. That same Scholar intends to be “remembered this time”, despite the repeated fall of his “pyramids”. We remind you that this channel is not one of our stronger historians, but we do believe enough information has been conveyed that extrapolations can be made on your own. The symbolic archetype from this event is, of course, the dance of the ancient concepts of “Good Vs Evil”. This is where the Baby Scholar’s own contributions come in, creating a scenario of War against an Evil Enemy with a Twisted God. Ironically, with further education about the “Evil” being fought, most fragments extant and part of the Mature Soul consciousness shift will begin to empathize with the motivations behind the troubled, religious zeal of the turbulent lands where the “Evil” comes from. Another level of the symbolism of this event is in seeing this as playing out the continued global shift to Mature Soul Consciousness. Though Young and Baby Souls are the catalyst, their motivations nicely dove-tail with the larger picture of Soul Age transition on the planet. Nearly all fragments who perished in the Pentagon and in Philadelphia are in part of their normal process of review and after-death experiences. The members of the Cadre of fragments involved in the World Trade Center collapse are variously, in hundreds of Configurations, completing Tasks that are part of a larger picture. Each fragment will examine his or her Personality and most recent life as each fragment senses a completion of his or her Task after death. Most of the Configurations within the Cadre who “died” include fragments from other Cadres who are still extant, and the discarnate fragments are acting as Inspiration, Expression, Action or Assimilation influences within these groupings. The probabilities as they extend from this point are still volatile and precarious. War of some sort is nearly imminent, standing high in probability at 86%. How and where this will manifest is not clear. The probability of more terrorist attacks is quite high, as well, standing at 74%. We have said before, but will say again, that New York City has always had a high probability of chemical or biological weapons being unleashed on the city. Nearly 5 years ago we mentioned the probabilities would drop after 5 years; 2001 being the final year of that time frame, though now an even higher probability of manifesting is present (even if diverted). A biological attack would be quickly contained and have minor effects, but it is still high on the options for the terrorists local within the U.S. (note: as of August 2004, Michael says that the probability of terrorist attacks on U.S. soil is still high, around 70% probability, while the use of biological attacks in NYC have dropped to a 30% probability). One major terrorist plan of probability stands as the taking hostage of a small town (or various small towns) in the United States. Though the probability is fairly low at 48%, dropping from 67% 3 weeks ago, it is not shifting enough over these days for us to discount it. (note: as of August 2004, Michael states that the probability of small-town hijacking is at 48%) Small bombings and interruptions of communication and transportation will continue to be a primary means of attack, along with assassination attempts. (note: as of August 2004, Michael states that this probability is at 80%) (Probabilities are asked to Michael in terms of “will this happen again within 10 years?”) We do not share these probabilities as a means to express “doomsday mentality”, but rather to respond to the request and questions posed to us about this pivotal situation on your planet. Please remember that the long-term effects from this event and its shadows may have the world in a far more peaceful, tolerant, and humble state of mind and heart eventually. Though this violent type of growth for a population is not necessary, it is the choice of many to experience that drama, adventure, emotional embracing and turmoil, and the excitement of such a precarious shift. Those qualities are the hallmark of early Mature Soul paths, even if within the context of Young/Baby wars. Many Americans were “bored” on all levels, but now nearly all fragments are “awake”. We have not seen such a vast manifestation of Essence and True Soul Ages in the United States before. This will not last, of course, but the potential for general peace and transformation is high, currently. A final mention of probability will be that the Scholar will most likely be directly involved (even if discarnate) in the rebuilding of “his pyramid” in place of the World Trade Center. The buildings may literally take pyramidal shape or a similar architecture to the Eiffel Tower, in a set of two or four buildings. Q&A 1) Could Michael comment on the reactions people have had, of pulling together, and of suddenly feeling like we are one family? I know they said a bit, but if there is any elaboration on this that can be made, any comment on this sudden state of being "Awake", I think it would be interesting. MICHAEL: The primary reaction/response that most fragments have found as a result of the terrorists' attack was a temporary shift into one or more of the Higher Centers. We have said many times that stress, anguish, and trauma tend to be some of the few ways any fragment finds their way to the Higher Centers, except in the case of the Higher Moving Center, which is specifically designed to be accessible without much effort. For nearly 7 days following the events of September 11, most fragments were dealing with the effects of general, Higher Centered processing, mostly dealing with Truth (higher intellectual) and Love (higher emotional), and finding applicable ways to blend these realizations with Beauty/Energy (higher moving). It is not uncommon to have periods of time wherein the focus of a population may be from one of the Higher Centers, but it is rare that nearly an entire planet moves into one Higher Center, let alone all three. Tears are the biological reactions to Truth, and a great deal of Truth was revealed to many fragments in the wake of this disaster. Some realizations include: The "fragility" of life; unnecessary social facades; assumed isolations; the lack of Needs met within the life for self and for others; the importance of reaching out; the loss of Community over time; the forgotten importance of family and loved ones; mortality; Life Tasks and where you are in your life; Internal Monad processing; pointlessly-held anger and resentments toward self and others; who are the major Support Positions (primarily the Intimates, but all came under examination); that everything will change and nothing is permanent; what is important, in general, etc. The tears shed across the world after this disaster are personal and we only suggest the above phrases because they stand out to us, but there are many more Truths that are being examined. Every person had the opportunity to be free from their Chief Feature during those days, experiencing fully what their particular Chief Feature tends to create fear around. We remind you that your Chief Feature (fear aka “your protector”) is defined by a habitual, yet an unnecessary, protection against something NORMAL in life. In the 7 days following September 11, 2001, every individual had the opportunity to experience the very thing they struggle to protect themselves from habitually. For instance, Arrogance fears Vulnerability: those with this Chief Feature allowed themselves to fully experience Vulnerability without fear. Those who have Self-deprecation allowed themselves to experience Inadequacy (which leads to surrender). Experiencing a total sense of unknowing can free the Personality. Usually this kind of surrender is feared, but those 7 days allowed the Personality to accept that position in life, briefly, but without fear. Stubbornness usually fears Change, but as is obvious, the disaster would not allow a fragment with this fear to dismiss the reality that Change is imminent, constant, unpredictable, and sometimes sudden. Self-destruction fears Worthlessness, but there was a great amount of insight gained for several days, allowing those fragments to realize that what is normally seen as "worthless", including themselves, actually has high value in the context of a life that is lived while awake. Greed fears Lack, but those several days allowed one to realize how much one has, even if just for a moment in time. Impatience fears Time (more specifically, losing control of Time), but realized how very precious the Time has been that was actually spent (or how better to spend it). Martyrdom fears Space (more specifically, losing control of that space), but realized how good they have their life (or how good they could have it, with a slight attitude adjustment), even with the fragment's complaints, chaos or redundancy in the current life. On the whole, anything unnecessarily being carried in the Instinctive Center[‡‡] was released by most fragments. For those 7 days the Higher Intellectual Center of most fragments was highly-stimulated and examined, followed immediately by a stream of stimulation to the Higher Emotional, leading many to examine exactly what it is in the life that brings Pleasure and True Love, and how these can be appreciated, expressed, and given more appropriately. These realizations are now settling in with the Higher Moving Centered experiences of Oneness and camaraderie. Most of the world is experiencing itself for the first time as "One", even if pitted against a vaguely perceived enemy and even if not “on the same side”. Countries have felt this synchronization occasionally, but not the entire world. It is not random that people tend to describe some of the events since the attack as "moving", since this is the center related to feeling one with another. We remind you that although the entire world shifted into a Higher Centered perception, how that is experienced and expressed can differ greatly among continents, cultures and even neighborhoods. "Real life" is moving back into routine for most fragments now, and what was learned from the Higher Centers will either be dismissed or applied profoundly. Nevertheless, it will be long time before the experience is forgotten, if at all. When that many people are synchronized, nothing is ever the same after that. 2) What, if anything, can those of us who do feel our compassion and wider awareness awakened here do to bring some good to the situation? MICHAEL: As events unfold, the impact from these recent events will be proportional to how much resistance there is to the concepts of the Mature Soul. The Positive manifestation of Mature Soul energy might not be obvious as it shows up through what is normally interpreted as "corny" or "syrupy" or "sentimental" and even "weak" or "passive" but still sharing connection, empathy, and progress. The Negative manifestations of the Mature Soul concepts might show up in emotional devastations, submersion into “reality” broadcasts, massive events of deaths and disasters, and global or local tragedies that make the headlines more often. Older Souls may find themselves responding from distrust and typical cynicism, returning to the "old codger" way of living within a hermitted life, or they may choose to adapt a personal "lightness in their step" as they flow with their more spiritual and trusting nature. Mature Souls will respond dramatically no matter what happens, but this will either manifest insularly and protectively or through the need to reach out. Younger Souls (we include troubled Late-level Baby Souls) will be the most resistant and troublesome over the next 5 years or so, as everything that has been held dear in the established routine of standards changes drastically. Balanced Baby Souls will be turning to the Mature and Old Souls for direction and guidance, tuning their lives to the Mature Soul as their new Authority. We will comment for the Mature and Old Souls as to what might be able to be done to "bring some good to the situation": If you are a Mature Soul (or an Early Old Soul, Level One or Two), it would not be surprising to find yourself suddenly surrounded by Baby Souls seeking your life as a haven. Do not hesitate to share your spirituality, your concepts of life and how you live it, if you choose to take on that responsibility. Find your own spiritual haven and implement this as a regular part of your life. We suggest the Unitarian Church, study groups incorporating your search and philosophies, hobby groups, anything that includes you in a regular group activity of healing or spirituality. Reach out to family, friends, and strangers, spending more quality time exchanging and sharing and supporting. If you are an Older Soul (Level 3 or older) it is time to implement all of your knowledge to-date, and we do not limit this to the current life. You are the sum total of all lives lived to this point, and we suggest assuming your ancientness as something worth trusting. The world is still not ready to embrace the values of the Old Soul, but there is an opportunity here to help your fellow Humans through troubling experiences you know as all too familiar from other lifetimes. The Older Soul knows there is a choice in every instance as to how the life can be seen, created, and experienced. We suggest that the Older Souls practice releasing attitudes of fear and distrust. We suggest acknowledging the overall picture, practice feeling the greater motion of the Tao, recognizing the events unfolding as a collective choice and part of a larger pattern of certain progress. For now, this can best be done by creating "vividry" in your daily routine. This simply means to slow down your consciousness for a few moments, widen your eyes, release any tension in your face, shoulders, neck, hands, tongue, legs, and experience FULLY the environment you are in at that moment. It will not matter where or when you are, the effects will be profound after some time. Look closely at every texture, color, face, while feeling/sensing your own skin and looking at your body as this amazing extension of the "you" who is observing. Recognize that all people around you are their own ideas, manifested. Marvel at the creativity of these souls and personalities, trusting in their process as part of the Tao. Creating vividry in the moment can help you align with your own Essence and the potential Higher Center Energy that is available to you. The greatest contribution Older Souls have for the planet at this time is to "hold consciousness" (or vividry) right where you are, with as much generated compassion, trust, and acceptance as possible. This has the potential to incorporate a potential matrix of "safety" for all fragments who prefer to choose other than the more violent, tragic paths. We do not suggest this activity as a means to “protect from” or “fight against” the times, or as a means to save yourself and others from some vague threat, but more as an opportunity of choice to simply "float to the top" of the turbulence, releasing your energetic investments in any chaos. If you have not successfully navigated the 4th Internal Monad, or if you are under the age of 40, it may be more appropriate to take the Mature Soul stance we suggested above. You will know what is more appropriate, even if you feel a need to combine the ideas. Whatever your choice, all includes recognition of Others as Self. To summarize: Older Souls lighten up; and Mature Souls, reach out. The path to agape has just potentially "shortened" for your species. We cannot save you from yourselves, but we can assure you that there is nothing to lose when your choices include truth, love, and oneness as often as possible. As usual, we remind you that all is chosen and all choices are valid. We offered our perspective, not as instruction, but as a response to your question. We have no investment in how you choose, because we will see you through to the end of any path. END In reference to Michael commenting on the karma between Bush and bin Laden: COMMENT/QUESTION: Oooohh, I resent being caught up in personal karma between these two! Or at least, I would resent it, if I weren't so full of LOVE and COMPASSION and UNIVERSAL FELLOW FEELING. Hmmph. But why couldn't they have agreed to work it out on more intimate terms? Why do the rest of us have to get dragged into it? MICHAEL: We do not believe the current scenario is one that was planned or agreed upon before the life began. During times of great shifting in Soul Ages, there are multitudes of potential scenarios to help perform the catalyst for permanent implementation of the newer perceptions. A Soul Age shift on a planet requires a catalyst, whether positively or negatively implemented and any Soul Age group may contribute to that. The fragments who have shown interest in being that catalyst have nearly all been late Baby or Young Souls. Examining the events of major media shocks of an emotional nature across the past 7 years or so will reveal that truth. The greatest catalyst before the attack on the World Trade Center was the "Columbine Shootings". To be the catalyst for change while completing personal agenda is not only highly appealing to fragments, but creates enormous leaps of possibility for the fragments involved. Most who are directly involved on such a scale of shift literally condense their progress through the Soul Ages by several lives. Both of the fragments in question [Bush/bin Laden] are past the mid-points of their Soul Age, both near the end of their current levels. We believe their 7th Levels will be reached within a few lives or so. Although it would appear to be unfortunate, many find the greatest opportunities for progress and growth in the excitement of danger, war, death, trauma, and general anxiety. We believe this to simply be the nature of the soul as it progresses through the discovery of more comfortable forms of growth. In a world where it is acceptable to the Personality to harm many forms of life as a means of convenience, to exploit as a means to gain knowledge and ensure comforts, it may not be surprising that Essence then has no reference for what might be a more compassionate form of growth and progress on a larger scale. In other words, when compassion is so severely limited within a species, Essence has not gained experiences enough to know that pain and struggle and suffering do not have to be “normal”. We remind you that your lifetimes contribute to your Essence's growth and it processes ONLY what it learns from/through the Personality. Compassion for self begins first, extending then to your family, community, other species, other kingdoms, and eventually to your entire species. The average level of compassion on your planet is currently limited to a community level. Essence is only intelligent from a "higher perspective" because of what it can glean from all the lives lived to that point. It is not “all-knowing” or even “all-loving” to a point that negates the need for growth; if that were the case, incarnating would be pointless. Essence is LEARNING. From YOU. If its basic input to-date has been from the experiences of self-preservation, then the contexts in which the newer Personality finds itself will be using that as a base. It is up to the new personality (your current self) to grow beyond what Essence has learned so far. Many Older Souls are drawing from that primary base of self-preservation because the scale of this event is larger than what is in their own instinctive history across time. Self-preservation has sufficed to this point in your planet's growth, but with this catalyst, combined with the immediate access to the world-at-large, more than self-preservation of the immediate life and environment are being drawn in. In other words, regardless of the age of your Soul, a level of realization for the need for compassion beyond your own community, responsibility in choices, and emotional accessibility is new to everyone. TO EVERYONE. Each Cadre, Entity, and Fragment will learn their own versions of what growth means, and this is why there is no standard or external force waiting to "grade", approve, or "pass" you. When you are done learning what you want, you are done, ON YOUR TERMS ALONE. There are no exceptions. In light of that, we would suggest that as the planet progresses in average Soul Age and population, the more "advanced" the lessons you will begin to seek. All of you present currently “wanted” to be present for this shift, regardless of how it feels now. You would not be involved on any scale if there was not agreement between Essence and Personality on some level to endure this event. The versions of you in this parallel[§§] were highly interested in "something" acting as a strong enough catalyst to being people into the awareness of the planet as a Whole, and to provide a more sudden excuse/justification for coming together. The attempts were originally, passively made in what you call "reality television", the numerous school shootings, Princess Diana's death, and several other events and films, but those were too gradual for most tastes. This recent event did what no other event has. It re-humanized the world. Previous to this, there was only the Young Soul context for interaction in that each feared that another was only out to "use you", "get something", or simply to impose on you. We have seen a 70% drop in this mentality across the planet within these past two weeks. These kinds of barriers do not drop momentarily, they are nearly always permanent. Your choices will lead from here. -Michael ORIGINAL FINAL NOTE FROM TROY: I am glad some of you are getting something from the report. It only skims the surface of the situation, I know, and I am aware when channeling that there is a vast amount of information to be obtained. I seem to be remaining connected to Michael even while not in full focus and there is a weight of information sitting there. Most of it is probably not necessary to know, but some of it will get through appropriately, either through me or other channels. I'd like to refine the details of the Cadres and Entities involved, since that was a rough draft of the situation. This reminds me: MBV SAYS: If a cadre/energy ring working through discipline could cause such destruction, what might they have done if they put their minds to a cure for cancer or something of that sort? TROY: I wanted to clarify that I did not get the impression that the Cadre was the CAUSE of the destruction in any way!! I got the impression that a situation was going to occur in some way, some how, and this Cadre ELECTED to be part of that, not really “knowing” how it would eventually unfold. This was a collective event, albeit using as a catalyst the Karma between George and Osama. And as far as a cure for Cancer; I think that is the same thing as asking what the cure for Fear is. When we can erase fear, then illness will probably have no home. I'd like to look further into the person who is Osama and his history, what is motivating him from other angles than Karma with George. Anyway, I am doing my best, and will continue to try! Love, Troy (This document was grammatically edited and re-sent to groups in August 2004) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [*] This Cadre/Entity system is based on the “classic” (Michael’s) version, not “shepherd’s”. 1 Energy Ring = 12Cadres = 84Entities; Michael is from Energy Ring #1, Cadre 11, Entity 4, while most who are currently part of the Michael Teachings as Students are in Energy Ring #2; Energy Rings are grouped in 12 called a Division, as well. This may conflict with other channels, but we will figure it out someday; I apologize for any discrepancies. Some channels number the Energy Rings consecutively with no groupings. One channel I know of has labeled Michael’s Cadre and most of our own Cadres in the same Energy Ring #14.
  7. "The Power of Desire" Michael Speaks Live Chat February 23, 2014 [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here, now. We can begin. [MEntity] We understand the request for discussion today to be that on the topic of DESIRE, as a part of the dynamic of what we term the Higher Moving Center. [MEntity] The Higher Moving Center is the part of you that is directly linked to the Energy that moves your life, your Essence, and Personality forward in its explorations and experiences. [MEntity] As many of our students know, we describe the universe as being a constant mix of Truth, Love, and Energy. These are Universal, in that this will be true in any Universe, on any planet, in any Sentient Species, etc. Beliefs and philosophies and religions and laws will not have any bearing on the validity of these factors that comprise any universe. [MEntity] In the most simplistic of ways to understand this, it could be said that your entire life, your personal universe, is entirely Built on Love, or exists because of Love, is interpreted through Truth, and Navigated or evolved by Energy. [MEntity] This may sound a bit "new agey," as some of our students may phrase it, but it would be valid, nonetheless, that these are not just broad concepts of a philosophical nature, but are tangible constructs within your own life. [MEntity] Another way to understand the Truth, Love, and Energy of your life and of you is to think of Energy as being paths, Truth being your interpretation of the various paths, and Love being the vehicle that carries you along those paths. [MEntity] In this discussion, then, we will focus on that media of Energy that are the paths of your life. [MEntity] The Higher Moving Center corresponds to the 2nd Chakra in the Chakra System, which is referred to as the Sacral or Sexual Chakra. [MEntity] This is the only Higher Center that is set "low" among the other Centers/Chakras. [MEntity] This is because Energy is the path that extends from Tao and back to Tao, through all of the Planes. All other forces depend upon this medium for their existence, including Truth and Love. [MEntity] The densest Plane of existence, the Physical Plane, is made of the same "stuff" that is the all-encompassing Tao that is the least-dense of all. [MEntity] We point out these broader concepts about Energy because these higher and broader concepts about how Energy works on the scale of a Universe is exactly how it works on the scale that is "you." [MEntity] In other words, even as "you" are the desnsest version of who and how you will ever be, you are still made up of everything about You that is of every degree of lesser density, as well. You are a Body, Personality, and Essence. [MEntity] These are in order of most dense to least. [MEntity] And so, in the same way that fragments who start off as the least-dense of who and how they are, they dive into density for the same reasons that they return from that density. [MEntity] The differences between existing in greater density versus being less-dense is that there is more against which to bump up against. [MEntity] Therefore, the Physical Plane, and being a Body, can be painful, since there is greater Friction in that density. [MEntity] On the other hand, the greatest and most-unique of blissful experiences can be had with that Friction is not painful. [MEntity] The Physical Plane is of the greatest density, and so has the greatest and most pervasive of potential for Friction, and Friction brings the greatest of pain and suffering and challenges, along with the greatest of bliss, joy, and euphoria. [MEntity] So on the most simplistic of levels, your navigation through any life is all about your maneuvering through, between, around, over, and into Pain and Pleasure. [MEntity] The difference between the two is just as simple: RESISTANCE. [MEntity] Consider the pain of a serrated knife across your skin versus the quick and fairly painless effect of the needle used for most injections. Both are breaking the skin, but one is going to be more painful than the other because of the Resistance. So in the most literal of terms, this Resistance is present as a force that generates Pain. [MEntity] The Energy of your life works in much the same way as this crude comparison. [MEntity] Some experiences are like a serrated knife, and some are the prick of a needle; some are harmful like the knife, and some are beneficial like a shot for your health. [MEntity] As you progress from your first life through to your last, this progression from pain/resistance to pleasure begins to become more and more pronounced and important. [MEntity] In those early lives, Pain was not a "bad" thing because it was a part of simply learning how to live, be alive, survive, and often pain was one of the ways through which that was accomplished. "I fell off of a cliff. That hurt. Do not do that again." [MEntity] In fact, the earlier incarnations become so dependent upon, and trusting of, pain as a form of navigation, that it takes one all the way through the final Levels of the Mature Soul Age to *really* get it that Pleasure can be trusted as much as Pain. [MEntity] It could be said that to be an Old Soul is greatly about reversing this dependency upon Pain, and learning to trust Pleasure. [MEntity] This is difficult when the world still imposes the imprinting that Pain is much more trustworthy, and that one's pain helps define him or her, and that if one has not suffered enough, then one is not deserving enough, and so on. [MEntity] So the Old Souls can fall prey to this cultural imprinting, and do all they can to validate the meaning and value of their existence by suffering along with everyone else. [MEntity] This is not to say that any suffering imposed upon an Old Soul is by choice. We are not speaking of those instances that are simply inherent risks of being Physical. Scathing of the bodies will always be a risk to any Physical incarnation, regardless of beliefs, conscious or subconscious. [MEntity] However, some of the most mundane of challenges that the Old Soul must endure can often be buried in melodramatic suffering that is completely unnecessary and absurdly out of proportion to the challenge. If an Old Soul must "work for a living" along with everyone else so as to participate in the society and culture he or she is in, it does not have to be experienced as suffering. This suffering is not only meant to help falsely prove his or her worth in some way, but to make an empty statement of entitlement that caters to some idea that the Old Soul must surely be above those mundane demands. [MEntity] So when it comes to the ENERGY of your life, our first suggestion posed to each of you would be that you ask yourselves how much Energy is used in the upholding of the unnecessary idea of SUFFERING as your primary defense of your value, position, and meaning in your life? How much Energy is used to undermine your mundane existence as if you should not be inconvenienced by the challenges of being Physical? [MEntity] Pain is information. It is not bad. It is not good. It is information. It is an indication of Resistance. Resistance is not bad, nor is it good. It is a necessity for navigation. However, suffering is often the distorted version of PLEASURE. [MEntity] Again, this is not to minimize or dismiss valid Suffering. We are speaking here of those many instances where a situation is compounded for the sake of a distorted form of Pleasure. [MEntity] The reason many do this is because they have not learned to trust True Pleasure. [MEntity] Suffering is the closest to Pleasure that fragment feels he or she can get. [MEntity] Through Suffering, there can come many "benefits." [MEntity] In most cases, that means the manipulation of others so that the one suffering can TAKE Pleasure, rather than having created it or given it or shared it. [MEntity] Consider the child who is screaming and crying because he did not get what he wants. [MEntity] For many, this method simply becomes refined when an adult. [MEntity] In all cases such as this, and even in the worst of these cases, it is merely that this fragment is seeking a path of return to order, to safety, to peace, resonance, harmony, beauty, just like every other form or matter and consciousness in the universe. [MEntity] And this method works. Until it does not. [MEntity] Once it does not, there is a turning point, or a point of no return, if you will. [MEntity] Eventually the universe no longer works very well for you in that way. Suffering begins to seem silly. It no longer serves to bring you even false pleasure. Taking Pleasure begins to feel ugly. And so the path toward creating and sharing Pleasure begins, and your Energy shifts. [MEntity] That turning point tends to come in one lifetime or another, and sometimes several times across different lifetimes, depending upon one's Frequency. [MEntity] Your access to all of that Energy that permeates all of the Universe, and was your path "here" and is your path "home," is no longer dependent upon navigation that is bound by the trust in pain or false pleasures, but begins to shift into a realization that true pleasure can be trusted, too. [MEntity] Many of you are only now learning what it even means to know "true pleasure." [MEntity] True Pleasure is simple. It is a sense of gratitude and appreciation for even the most mundane of your existence. It is a realization that even the most challenging elements of who and how you are things that simply make up a small part of the vast range of experiences one can have in a day, a year, a lifetime, or across lifetimes. [MEntity] The Positive Pole of the Higher Moving Center is BEAUTY. The Negative Pole is DESIRE. In the same way that no Chief Negative Feature can have a "good" Positive Pole, as that "positive" is simply relative to the spectrum of fear that is described by that Chief Feature, so can no Higher Center have a "bad" negative pole, as all Higher Centers are directly linked to those primary building blocks of the universe. . [MEntity] BEAUTY as the Positive Pole of the Higher Moving Center, then, is the recognition of patterns that are experienced as such harmony that they are truly beautiful. DESIRE, is that path along the way to that recognition. [MEntity] The reason DESIRE is "negative" is simply because, relatively speaking, it is apart from the Beauty, on its way to it, so is technically separate from it, but Desire is how you get there. [MEntity] And Desire, as a path toward Beauty, is everything you find pleasurable, joyful, playful, and are discovered through sharing, invitation, and impulses. not through forcing, taking, manipulating, or compulsions. [MEntity] Desire simply describes that part of you that is co-creating the life with Essence, and is hooked into that natural flow of consciousness, creativity, and choice that leads one all the way to Beauty. Desire is that part of you that knows that the path is not pre-paved with gold so that you know exactly what it is and where it goes, but that you leave that path paved with gold, so to speak, because it was yours, and that is what matters. [MEntity] Desire means listening to your quiet impulses, and to your gentle invitations, and to your sense of sharing. [MEntity] For the Old Soul who "should not have to work," as our crude example earlier, Desire can be the shift away from the practical necessity of work, and toward what matters even more from there. [MEntity] Let your few hours of the day that are not obligated to work be free to be full of Desire, creativity, choice, pleasure. [MEntity] Let your actions, choices, words, expression, motivations, intentions, etc. reflect your Desires, with "Desires" meaning that part of you that seeks the creation and sharing of Beauty. [MEntity] If Beauty is the "recognition of patterns," then Desire is the "conscious contribution to those patterns." [MEntity] The Old Soul who is on the path, who is moving beyong suffering and pain as a primary form of navigation, and is embracing Beauty, is the Old Soul who has realized he or she is a spectrum of experiences that is inclusive of both the long-trusted pain as information, and the newer relationship with pleasure that will now lead one home. [MEntity] Before we open the floor, we will say that for anyone who has found oneself feeling disconnected from Beauty, Desire, or feeling lost in how to move from suffering to pleasure, it can be as simple as a matter of a good laugh that helps clear your path again. [MEntity] Laughter is the biological response to ONENESS, to BEAUTY, to ENERGY. All Humor is merely the resolution of paradox, the unexpected. We know it can seem morbid, but much of even the worst of life is far more hilarious from the perspective of Essence than that of Personality. This is not to diminish the point of view of a Personality, but as the Old Soul Manifests Essence, much of what seemed to be such a struggle can take on a much greater levity. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS [ViP] Hi Michael, regarding this: [ViP] "Desire, as a path toward Beauty, is everything you find pleasurable, joyful, playful, and are discovered through sharing, invitation, and impulses. not through forcing, taking, manipulating, or compulsions." [ViP] If one is a food connoisseur, one may find pleasure and joy in experiencing different flavours of meat, and share that with others. However, the meat came from killing another lifeform (possibly sentient, as in the consumption of whale meat.) [ViP] Not necessarily as a necessity for survival, but the pleasure of it. [ViP] Is the experience of such pleasure (at the direct cost of pain being experienced by other pain-aware life, despite other options being available) a step on the road to finding Beauty? [MEntity] As one begins to understand the nature of True Pleasure, it cannot be defined in any way that is based in TAKING. If one's pleasure is the cause of true suffering and pain to another, it is not True Pleasure. The sharing in pleasures that are of the palate do not require harm, and this begins to be understood as the circle of consciousness expands. [ViP] is this true of all sentient life with the ability to choose (including dolphins, which must eat fish?) [MEntity] There are many who find pleasure that is directly or indirectly the cause of harm, suffering, and pain to another, and the distinction can be difficult to discern, but we suggest that the more directly one can choose and create away from that cause of harm, suffering, and pain, then it will likely begin to be more and more of an obstacle to true pleasure. [MEntity] There is a vast difference between the consuming of foods for survival and sustenance, regardless of what those foods are, and the causing of suffering and pain to multiple species for the taking of pleasure and convenience. [MEntity] That choice will always be up to the individual, but as consciousness expands, so does compassion, and as compassion expands, so does the capacity for pleasure, and as the capacity for pleasure expands, so does the desire for extending that to all existence. [MEntity] This is why many Old Souls "shut down" upon waking up, so to speak. That turning point when it is realized just how much unnecessary suffering is in the world, and imposed by others, and the subsequent helplessness of it all, can cause the late Mature to Old Soul to simply turn a blind eye and focus into a very small parameter of the life. [MEntity] That is natural. Eventually, the power of choice returns and it is used to serve one's sense of compassion and consciousness, and this begins to be beautiful. It matters that you have followed your Desires toward Beauty, not that others have not. [MEntity] Every individual who owns that path, helps generate the capacity for others to recognize their own. [brian] You mentioned that Old Souls can fall prey to the cultural imprinting of trusting Pain over Pleasure. What are some ways that the Older Soul can reduce or remove this imprinting if it is an obstacle? [MEntity] There are many moments when the choice for succumbing to suffering is chosen over the trust in pleasure. [MEntity] There is an addiction in place for many that must be broken by one's most powerful tool: choice. [MEntity] When we say this, we do not mean to say that your worries and concerns will fade, but that the choice away from suffering is the choice that is INCLUSIVE. This means it is okay to worry, and it is okay to be concerned, and it is okay to be stressed, but it is ALSO okay to be patient, to keep trying, to keep creating, to keep looking, to keep loving, to aim for your intentions, etc. [MEntity] What tends to happen when one allows room for both is that the division within is healed, and this wholeness helps bring more cohesive Energy, meaning more recognizable patterns, and thus, more Beauty, more pleasure. [MEntity] Worry all you wish to worry. Wring your hands in concern over the future. Be embarrassed about your past. Fret over your failures. But let yourself laugh, let yourself make a difference, let yourself move forward. [MEntity] These may sound useless platitudes, but we can assure you that any effort to include laughter, empowerment, choice, and movement, even in the worst of scenarios, is far from useless. [MEntity] If you feel that you have chosen Suffering at any point, then let that be included, as well. "Whoops, I chose to suffer again, but that's okay. I can still choose something else along with that. And I can choose again after that." [DandyLIONpuff] I have an inner struggle regarding creative DESIRE that causes a resistance towards action. I will be excited about many mediums ( story writing, music writing, performance) to an equal level that choosing one path seems painful. Am I correct in thinking Essence does not plan the exact medium of the creativity , but only the " vibration" of it? [DandyLIONpuff] if that vibration can be directed towards anything, does it even matter what outer medium is chosen? how does one choose between so many potentials? [MEntity] We remind you that pain, and even fear, is simply information. So if you feel that choosing one over the other is "painful," it is simply information. In cases such as this, that information in not about leaving media of expression behind for the sake of focusing on one, but more about the pain of NOT focusing on one. The distraction is the pain, not the potential. [MEntity] It is painful to be distracted from the focus on the one you have chosen. [MEntity] The pleasure will come when you allow yourself to focus on that choice. The other media will not disappear. [MEntity] They can even float as satellite options for support in that one focus. They need not be left behind, but simply brought into an order that is supportive of the primary focus. [MEntity] For instance, if sculpture becomes the focus, let it be the focus. Give everything to this. Let the existence of your creation snap into form through that medium. But have your paints ready. Have your pen ready. Have your other forms of creativity available. They are not gone, and they do not have to be distractions; they can be supportive. [MEntity] One does not have to cut off one's legs to give strength to his arms. [MEntity] And yes, in the same way that "you" are Essence, no matter what form you choose to take, so are your creations still your creations, no matter what form they take. [susan] We have used the so-called "7" types of centering: ie: The Emotional - Intellectual - Physical - Moving Instinctive - and, Higher Centers namely higher emotional and higher intellectual (we think those are the 7 types) to find pleasure - in rejoining with the 2/3 of c1e7 already cycled off - and, our essence twin - and, guides-guardians etc., is this the right/or wrong usage of learning and utilizing how to work with these 7 centres there is a lot of pleasure found in reconnecting with 'higher levels' of 'yourself' [MEntity] Though we are unclear as to what your question is, we can say that there is no "right" or "wrong" definition of pleasure, and no standard by which any can impose the experience of pleasure. Many gain great pleasure, true pleasure, from the intangible, and many gain true pleasure from the tangible. However, as one's consciousness expands, and one's compassion grows, the definitions of [MEntity] pleasure begin to recognize the responsibility that comes along with true pleasure. [MEntity] But what that pleasure is, is up to you. [MEntity] The pleasures of Manifesting Essence often border on ecstasy. [JamesS] when ever one, try to follow one Passion, Desire, run into Blocks as if "Denied and Pain Follows"Meaning Joy is no longer part of one, Path [MEntity] This questions would require some reformatting for us to understand it. [MEntity] We must conclude here for today, however. [MEntity] Good evening to each of you. [MEntity] Goodbye.
  8. Michael Speaks Live Chat Old Souls in Young Bodies April 25, 2015 Channel: Troy Tolley MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We will begin on the subject of growing up an Old Soul in a Young Soul world. Time session started in Alaska: 12:36:10 PM GeraldineB: I understood "young body" vs "young soul world" MEntity: What we can share on this subject may apply in variations for anyone whose Soul Age is older than the dominant paradigm around the individual. A Young Soul growing up among Baby Souls may find some of this information relevant, for instance, but there would be distinct variations. Geraldine, we know Troy chooses the subject description, but we will speak in broader terms that include the young body, but also the Young Soul paradigm. The first thing that any Old Soul here will have remembered in his or her growing up is the experience of being out of sync with the world around him or her. This can sometimes be painful, or sometimes experienced as a fascinating curiosity, and sometimes as secret. Or all of the above. In all of the above, there will have been a strange state of being "of two minds." This is because there is the Old Soul that is valid and present, but it is being experienced by the new body. No matter how old one's soul is, you will always be "new" in every life. There is validity to the idea that "you only live once." This is true in that "you" as you know you now exists only as you now and will never exist as this you again. However, once "you" exist, you can never be destroyed. No matter how many lives you have, each Personality exists and continues to exist in some form as its own identity, even as it evolves to include the greater identify of soul and entity and cadre, etc. But every lifetime will start off as unevolved as every other lifetime. No one gets an advantage. It may seem as if the older soul will have its advantages over a Baby Soul because the older soul has greater potential for awakening sooner, but that is not a useful comparison. The older soul will still have to do the work of waking up, and it has a lot further to go in terms of fully awakening than the Baby Soul. The Baby Soul can only wake up to a point that is relevant to its evolution, and most of that awakening is based in the gaining of experiences. The Old Soul awakens, not primarily from the gaining of experiences, but from the remembering of them. It could be said that most experiences of the Old Soul are for the point of remembering, or for the point of waking up, not so much for the sake of adding more to its bank of experiences. This is not to say that the Old Soul does not gain new experiences, or that the Old Soul does not seek them, but that even if they are new, they serve the process of remembering. This is why when the Old Soul is in a young body that craves and drives toward new experiences, the Old Soul can be met with overwhelm, indifference, boredom, fatigue, or extremes. The Personality is entirely new and wishes to gain experiences, but as the consciousness of the individual grows, there is a sense that, "wait, I've done all of this before." And when met with painful experiences or poor choices or lethargy or obstacles, there is a sense that "I should really know better than this." The Old Soul that is awake in the young body can often KNOW the "right choice" and still fully, willingly, and against all better judgment continue toward an experience that is known will bring pain or trouble. This "being of two minds" can begin to feel as if you are watching yourself make "stupid mistakes" or make "wrong choices" as you crash and burn and know you did not have to. So why do you do it? Because it is the only way to return to wholeness. Your body/Personality cannot meet up with and host the vastness of your consciousness, your Soul Age, your Essence, until it is caught up with YOU, the greater YOU, in truly comprehending the variables of life. You can tell a child not to touch a hot stove burner many times, or not to stick a fork in a plug, and he or she may still do so, and even feel even more compelled to do so, because he cannot comprehend the impact of that choice. No matter how old you are, the Personality is similar. "Do not fall for the comforts of religion because they are false." "You do not have to be distracted by sexual gratification and securing one person as 'your own'." "You may have been here before, but you still must participate and work in the world." And all of these will be ignored. Because the greater you may know this, but "you" do not. Sometimes the Old Soul in a young body will shift toward the extremes and keep the life in a constant state of survival or struggle so that he, at least, has something to do that seems relevant. Many Old Souls fall into patterns that have the life teetering toward collapse because it is far more exciting than "just accepting" that life can be joyful, playful, fun, and intimate. The Personality takes over and runs amok like a child in a candy store of experiences. If the Personality continues to embrace Essence and grow toward consciousness, then he eventually has a moment where he "wakes up" and there is a distinct shift. But some Personalities do not sustain the sense of Essence, and they fall into deep, sustained sleeps that leave the life behind, or leave the life in a pattern of chaos. There is no guarantee that because one is Old, one is wise. The Old Soul is wise, but the personality can only be as wise as its own experience and as wise as its embrace of Essence. For all of our students who are fulfilling Agreements with us and under the age of 30, you are not fully awake, and it will do you a disservice to presume that you are, or should be. You are awake. If you know us, you are awake. This is not the same thing as fully awake. And there is no short cut. YOU MUST GAIN THE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU WISH TO GAIN so that you have a context for when you are fully awake. The "big secret" is, however, that no one can ever be "fully awake." You can only be as awake as you are. There is always more "awakeness." However, as you grow into your Essence, a merging of Essence and Personality happens that is unprecedented in the life, and you suddenly "get it." You get it that you are loved. That you are worth the life. That you are in no hurry. That you do not have to prove yourself. That you need not defend yourself or hide yourself or fear the demands of responsibility, discipline, and freedom. This cannot happen before you form who you are, and who you are is formed by what you bump up against. In our teaching, we refer to this as Friction. Sometimes Friction feels good. Sometimes it feels painful. Most of your painful Friction comes during the gap between Essence and Personality, while the pleasurable Friction comes as the Essence and Personality become "one." So, for those under 30 or 40, it is beneficial for you to not pressure yourself to be fully awake, or to "know better" or to do anything more than follow your impulses that are giving you the context or ground from which you and Essence can then stabilize and blossom. Many never get this far at all. The early bouts with painful Friction become too familiar, and there is false comfort in continuing those patterns. Lives that do not embrace Essence slowly or quickly diminish in energy that is life-sustaining. These lives will either tend to find stability (or try to find stability) in those who have landed in their own context, or they may slowly or quickly implode, or they may find clever ways to "run in circles" to keep from moving forward or backward in the life. And this brings us to anyone who is an Old Soul in a predominantly younger soul world. We can say that approximately 70% of the Old Souls on the planet are asleep in ways that generate patterns described above. To wake up among those who are asleep is very difficult. Imagine having a sleepover so that your living room is crowded with others who have decided to continue sleeping late into the day, and you wake up. You have many choices for what to do, but nearly all of them will disturb or upset those still asleep. No matter how delicately you navigate, you will disturb, bother, disrupt, or even provoke anger from someone asleep. Even if everyone remains quietly sleeping, you are in a state of constant self-monitoring so as not to bother anyone. You must concede to walk on eggshells or leave altogether. The scenario described above is not an exaggeration for what the Old Soul in a Young Soul paradigm feels. Bobby: I slammed a few doors ;-) MEntity: This is why so many opt to wait to wake up. Or even as others begin to awaken, they opt to comply to the pace and preferences of those awakening. Or they "leave." And by "leave" we mean this in a range between depression and checking out on the life, to isolation and loneliness, to suicide and dying. Bobby is close to understanding the solution. And this is one of the most difficult lessons that an Old Soul will learn: YOU CANNOT EXIST AMONG OTHERS WITHOUT DISTURBING THEM. We emphasize "EXIST" because we are not speaking of imposing yourself, or defensively navigating the life in antagonistic ways. Your mere existence will disturb others. IT IS SUPPOSED TO. We do not say the above as if you have a predestined role or function. We say the above because it is a practical description. If an adult walks into a room full of children, the children often notice the adult quite profoundly and react in some way that honors the adult or defies the adult. No Old Soul at this point in the collective evolution of your species can escape this similar scenario. You are not invisible. You can hide. You can isolate. You can deny. You can comply. But you cannot UNexist. You can be considerate of those who remain sleeping, but the pace and preferences of your life do not have to diminish to compliance and constriction. You do not have to "slam doors," but you can use doors, so to speak. You will not get through this life without disturbing others into considering where they are in the process of waking up. GeraldineB: And that's when a Sage-casted Sage has the most fun . . .making enough noise so someone else IS disturbed MEntity: So within the single lifetime of the Old Soul, you will "grow up" many times. Your Personality must gain experiences as a means to host the consciousness that is its Essence, and Essence must remember how to use what has been learned across all lifetimes. You are awake, but you continue to awaken. Others are awake, but continue to awaken. Many are asleep, and it is okay to disturb them. There is a difference between imposing yourself upon others, and BEING yourself. We will open the floor now to questions: *****QUEUE IS NOW OPEN***** GeraldineB: I would like this statement to be expanded upon as I didn't know that Essence could forget: Essence must remember how to use what has been learned across all lifetimes. MEntity: That is a bit of a misnomer in that Essence does not forget, but once it is Manifested "in" the Personality and co-creating the life, there is a new dynamic in place. When the Personality is making all of the choices, it is one thing, and when Essence makes all of the choices, it is one thing, but when the entirely new Personality is now hosting an ancient Essence, "remembering" becomes key. Essence experiences what we have described as a "double-edged sword of forgetfulness." Because Essence knows it is profoundly safe and that the Personality that has come into existence will continue, it has none of the fears that Personality has because Personality is born of the biological and is linked heavily to survival in the Physical Plane. Most of the time, the Personality and body seek to survive at all costs, whereas this is not a concern for Essence. So Essence must "remember" this. As the Personality learns that it is safe, the Essence must remember how to navigate in an unsafe world. GeraldineB: I FELT that truth MEntity: Essence can often plan a life that is based on great ideals and intentions for what to experience and gain from a life, but then you are born and "you" are asking, "what the fuck?" DianeHB: lol GeraldineB: and will wail . . ."but I didn't assssssk to be born. . ." Juni: iol KittyMac: lol MEntity: This is one of the reasons it is so important for the Personality to have complete control over the life and its choices. Personality evolves its own reason for living. It does not live for Essence. But, as you awaken, you live with Essence, and eventually, AS Essence. GeraldineB: manoman . . .you're the hammer of truth today, MEntity MEntity: And as Essence is integrates into the life, the "remembering" is similar to how the adult must "remember" what it was like to be a child so that the child is best served and nurtured, and not treated as an ancient. This is not entirely difficult, but it becomes an art. Kurtis: I'm not sure how to ask this, but as an old soul in a young body, how does the body type play into this awakening? MEntity: Unless you intended to ask something completely different, how you asked this seems to be clear. The Body Type plays into the process of awakening in the same way as any other overleaf. The more dependent on the Negative Poles, the more likely the rejection of Essence. The Body Type associated with Nature would tend to hold clues as to how the body is processing experiences that benefit or deny consciousness. Bobby: I won't go so far as to say that it appears that luck plays a role in the awakening process but you have mentioned pivotal events before. Are these largely how this process comes into play then and are they pre-planned to some degree to help provoke the awakening process? MEntity: There are events in the life that are generated based on pre-life and in-life Agreements, as well as Sequences and Vectors that serve as trajectories toward events, but these can always be ignored, avoided, or abdicated, and even if fulfilled, the benefit or harm from these is often dependent upon the reactions/choices. Most events are not planned. This is mostly because choice is so primary to the benefit or harm of an event. In other words, that mugging was not "to teach you a lesson," nor was that break up, nor are your financial struggles, or your disappointments, etc. MOST events are merely a part of the package deal of incarnation and all of its variables. If you were to pull up the same scenarios for 10 different fragments, it will not have been luck or even the events that made the most difference. It will have been the choices in response to those events that made the difference. Does this address your question? Bobby: Yes, thank you MEntity: We will conclude here for today, then. Good day to each of you. We continue to awaken along with you. You are not alone. We say this not because we are so accessible, but because you have each other, too. Goodbye, for now.
  9. KurtisM

    Old Sages

    [Excerpt from a private session for Diane on August 16, 2010] Diane: So...is my true Role Sage or Artisan? MEntity: We still see your records as showing that which would be a Sage as your Essence Role, though we realize you may not find resonance to the typical stereotype of the Sage. Diane: Yes, I don't like the limelight. Does my scholar casting influence this? MEntity: That lack of resonance to the stereotype is because the descriptions that most of our students read are the "average Sage," or the Young Sage. You are not Young, and the qualities related to how Young Sages usually manifest are not appealing to you. Yes, your Casting plays a major part in how your Role shows up, especially on a day-to-day basis. ... Diane: Any additional suggestions for self expression for this Old Sage? MEntity: You may not enjoy being in "the limelight," but one consistency of Sages is that it is rare to get through a lifetime without having been a model of example for at least one other person in some way. It could be said that the one consistency of a Sage is they are their own Teaching, in any lifetime, and the integrity of the Teaching is very important to uphold. It is not so much a literal teaching, but a sense of ambition and a knowing that even when not in the spotlight, they are being watched. That sense of being constantly watched, ironically, is one of the reasons the older Sages retreat into more intimate, personal forms of expression, but the integrity and importance of honesty in "who I am" remains strong. ### Note: You may comment on this material within the original post. See Sage ~ as their own Teaching.
  10. KurtisM

    Mixing up Roles

    [Excerpt from a private session for AnnaD on February 27, 2015] AnnaD: [receives information that someone is a Warrior and protests that he appears to be a Sage] MEntity: There are complexities about individuals that go beyond the superficialities that are often attributed to the stereotypes for the Roles. For example, a Warrior is just as likely to be a "showpony, stage-grabbing" individual as any other Role. It is not about the behavior that determines the Role, but the ESSENCE. As Sages grow older, they move away from the obvious stage and life begins to be the stage, if you will. For other Roles, particularly those that have long been shy of exposure and attention, will seek to balance this through various means, including using humor, play, and even obnoxiousness. By this time, the Sage tends to be long done with these as defining features, and have integrated them as expansive tools. ... We do not seek to override your own understanding of the Roles. ... We do, however, remind you that there are Overleaves at work here, as well, and imprinting from social influences, etc. There are consistencies to the Roles, but they are not through the cloning and replication of behaviors. If only Sages were funny, and Priests preachy, and Servers serving, and Kings leading, the universe would be a rather monotonous experience with little room for evolution, exploration, and experimentation. ### Note: You may comment on this material within the original post. See Heartlink.
  11. KurtisM

    More on the Great Lesson of the Priest

    [Excerpted from two private sessions posted by Maureen on January 24, 2012 and March 14, 2012.] MEntity: The emphasis [in the dream] appears to be conveying the validity of either choice and direction. There is something to be said for the appeal of turning over the reins of the life to a momentum that is not one's own, as this excuses one from many responsibilities and burdens of consciousness. ... In this case, "you" were the meeting ground of both the higher and lower versions of you. Your unconditional compassion ... as well as your higher vision.... That is the whole of you. In a "nutshell." This is an ancient division within that is universal to all, but painfully acute in the Priest. This is The Great Lesson of every Priest. To rise above the rational, over-analysis, and the world of ideas, and the predetermined, structured, careful picture of life that no longer challenges trust. ### Maureen: What is going on with my reaction, and another's, as well, to XXX. Why does this person irritate me so much and what can I do to resolve this – within myself? MEntity: ... this speaks to that concept of the integrity of truth that is not only important to the Priest, but to the Sage, as well, and to all Old Souls, in general. It is clear to you, and to others, that the work of XXX does not accurately represent "the truth," and is a great exercise in futility to some extent because of the lack of data. This would not trigger such a reaction if there were clear qualifications in place that describe the exercises as being just out of curiosity, and if this same fragment did not already display a lack of discernment of the truth in other areas. ... Inviting someone to your truth is not a guarantee that they will accept that invitation. And then this goes back to the Priest and her fall into her Great Lesson: that no one can be recruited into the truth, but only invited to it. The truth is often not embraced as a sudden revelation, but one that is accepted based on exposure and experience, education, and dialog, etc. ### Note: You can comment on this material within the original posts. See A Dream of ~ You as a Meeting Ground) and Truth, Acceptance and Innocence).
  12. Michael Speaks 011010 TOPIC CHAT (new format) Self-Karma Despite the complexities that can be involved in Self-Karma, the actual concept, exploration, and resolution are quite simple. That is not to say that the process is "easy," but that describing these elements is fairly simple. First, we will define Karma as "any form of intensity (imbalance) as a result of interference to your capacity for Choice." Interference of Choice is not the only criteria for generating Karma. There must be an intensity, or imbalance, generated from at least one party, and most-often the party who suffered the loss of Choice. The sudden increase for capacity of Choice is also a form of Karma, if intensity is generated. We describe this as Philanthropic Karma, and this form of Karma "feels good," but it is Karma, nonetheless, as it interfered with Choice and generated intensity. When Karma is generated, "Ribbons" are formed as a means to track those intensities. Those Ribbons connect among the Instinctive Centers of all who are involved. It might be more accurate to describe these as "tuned frequencies" that do not lose track of the members of that frequency, but we feel that "ribbons" is easier to image. The resolution of Karma is in the "burning" of the "ribbon," or neutralizing that frequency. The burning of ribbons is always done through role reversal, either with the parties from each side reversing positions, or from the party who generated the karma reversing his or her own actions that generated the Karma. A simplified example of each might be: Reversing Positions = you kill someone, that someone kills you. Reversing Actions = you kill someone, you then save that someone in a later life. We realize that we have been sharing the details about our perception of Karma, but this is helpful in understanding your Self-Karma because much of the same dynamic applies. We will define Self-Karma as being "a dual position within that interferes with your own capacity for Choice, and generates intensity, or imbalance." Often these are also described as "Issues." ALL Self-Karma is contained within a single lifetime and does not carry over in the same way that Ribbons do among fragments. Self-Karma is generated by the Personality within the lifetime. However, Self-Karma can show up as patterns for an Essence, because Essence designs each Personality, and often the patterns of exploration sought by Essence generates similar opportunities across lifetimes for each Personality that tends toward certain Self-Karmic issues. If a Personality resolves his or her Self-Karma within a lifetime, that Self-Karma is usually not repeated, because Essence then has a completed set of new data from which to use for creating a lifetime. Since Essence learns through Personality, it can only progress beyond certain Self-Karmic patterns when a Personality finally figures out how to resolve the issue. That is not to say that a pattern does not repeat, but that it is rarely repeated. When we say that it is not repeated, we are speaking about a specific Self-Karma, but that issue may be a part of a larger category of Self-Karma, which we will explain in a moment. If you are alive, you most-likely have Self-Karma. Self-Karma is so common a development among Personalities that even the hosts for the Transcendental and Infinite Souls carried Self-Karma. However, in the cases of Transcendental and Infinite Soul hosts, the Self-Karma is always resolved within the lifetime. Self-Karma is generated in four categories of your life, which mirror the Axes of our Overleaf System. It would be more accurate to say that Self-Karma is generated in one or more of your four "bodies" that mirror the Axes of our Overleaf System: your Intellectual, Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual/Instinctive Bodies. These categories can help you to identify your Self-Karma by where, how, and when you find yourself divided in a way that interferes with your capacity for Choice. Self-Karma is often paralyzing in its effects. When we say "paralyzing," we include those uncontrollable compulsions that force a choice even when you "know" is not a choice you would prefer to make. We include non-choice, refusal to choose, or the fear to choose, as a means to suspend yourself between two or more choices, as forms of paralyzing. What we will share now is a simple exercise for identifying your Self-Karma in a way that allows for tangibility so that resolution can be made, if you choose to pursue such an endeavor. Draw up a chart in a way that creates the four categories, or bodies: Intellectual, Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual. With merely a glance at your life, considering each category, it might be fairly easy to identify at least one Self-Karma from each category. You could translate each category into a way to help your examination, such as: Expression, Inspirational, Action, and Assimilliation areas of your life. Assimillation might be better understood as your "Learning" or "Comprehension," or the "Lessons" are of life. Another translation: my world view; my relationships; my body; my spirit. Questions to pose for each category, regardless of how one translates that category might sound something like: "What do I get the most upset about in this category?" Or "In this category, what experience repeats for me that keeps me from making the choices I want to make?" Or "In this category, where do I wish something else would change before I can make a choice that I prefer?" Or "In this category, to what do I tend to overreact?" Or "In this category, what triggers reaction in me?" Or "What frustrates me the most about myself, others, life in this category?" At first, your examination may bring up broad categories, and that is a good place to start, but you would eventually want to narrow it down to specific triggers or situations. For instance, you may feel that issues of INJUSTICE is a large context that carries triggers for you, but upon closer inspection, you may find that you are really only triggered when someone does not comply to your way of thinking, or agree with you, or celebrate your passionate stance with the same passion. This might indicate that your issues are not so much about Injustice, but about "Being Right" or "Being Superior." Once one has identified a Self-Karma, then the work of resolution can begin. Resolution is found when there is no longer a sense of division, and your choice is completely owned by you. We will give a very simple example: A fragment identifies that she has "issues" with her body image, detailing that she feels ugly because she does not lose weight, but does not do the work of losing that weight. This would fall under BODY, or Physical. The broader category would be "Body Image," but she might find she is triggered in instances where she is going to be social or intimate. Her Self-Karma then might be the division within that says she is beautiful just as she is, as long as no one sees her. Being "Beautiful As I Am" means to her to never having that concept challenged, so she remains isolated and secluded to sustain that version of herself. Being "As Beautiful as Others Prefer" would mean shaping the body into a new form, which means exercise, diet, and patience, but this is in conflict with "Beautiful As I Am," and to follow through in that direction might mean she really is not beautiful as she is, so reprimanding, self-punishment, self-hate, repulsion replace diet, exercise, and patience. She remains at home, or secretly isolated internally, even when in social situations. The resolution would come only when she MAKES THE CHOICE in one direction or the other, and allows herself to own that choice. If she chooses to "Be Beautiful As I Am" then it would require the work of self-acceptance, self-kindness, accentuating all that is felt to be beautiful, internally and externally, and to build upon that. She would celebrate the beautiful in those people and things that she knows as beautiful beyond any standard in entertainment or social media. She would allow for all forms of beauty, knowing that this is a subjective matter, and never something that can be standardized. If she chooses to "Be as Beautiful as Others Prefer," then she would own the steps necessary to go down that path, and begin a commitment to exercise, diet, patience, and a reality-check that she cannot transform her body to be exactly as someone else's, but that she can make it the best it can be. She would embrace the fact that she may not please everyone, but focus on moving her body into a state that is pleasing to herself. She is simply taking care of herself. In short: the Self-Karma is a division that could be described as "Accept my self as I am/Improve upon my self-image." The resolution is to choose one of those and to own all that goes along with that choice. The irony is that in the commitment to one or the other, BOTH are ultimately included; hence the resolution. Neither side of the division is left behind. Accepting yourself as you are automatically includes an upgrade to your self image. Improving upon your self-image automatically brings a kindness to the process that is an acceptance for who you are all along the way of your improvement. Improving yourself in your own eyes automatically improves your representation of yourself to others, thus improving yourself in their eyes, as well. Improving yourself in a way that others may find appealing often leads to clarity about what must be improved in your own eyes. When choosing a direction for commitment to resolution, it is often more beneficial and efficient to choose the direction over which you have the most control. For instance, taking the route of "Accept Myself As I Am" is far more within the control of that person than if she were to entirely depend upon the external factors for gauging her progress. Both paths could work, but this is why many teachings encourage one to start with the self, since that is where one has the most control, and is almost always guaranteed success. Choosing to go in a direction of lesser control that requires others to comply to your ideal is still a valid path, but a more complicated and challenging path, with less-likely successes. The more time and care given to your examination of your Self-Karma, the more quickly and easily the resolution might come because the solutions are often within the issue, itself. **************Q&A*************** Are there different gemstones with their frequencies that might be utilized to help neutralize the energies of these four self-karma categories? If it is understood that these gemstones are merely a supportive energy, and not an energy that actually does the work for you, then there are stones that might help some fragments receptive to that energy. To understand how these work, it might be helpful to think of each gemstone as being a light of specific color, and when that light is shined into your space, it can highlight certain things. It is not that the stone is actually "doing" anything other than being itself. A flashlight in the dark is not magic, but it can certainly improve one's capacity for seeing. And so it is with such tools as gemstones. With that being understood, the most common stones available for helping support in the process of Self-Karma might be: Rose Quartz or Pyrite for Physical/Body Issues Amethyst Quartz or Citronite for World View/Intellectual/Expression issues Tourmaline or Jades for various Learning/Comprehension/Instinctive Issues Tiger's Eye or Azurites for Emotional/Relationship Issues These stones may help to highlight the areas prone to opportunities for resolution, but they will not resolve the issues for you, or soothe them. There is validity to frequencies generated from inanimate objects, especially from those directly of the planet, but as with any tool, it is what you do with them that makes the difference, not necessarily the properties of that object. A hammer is just a hammer until one picks it up to use with intent, and that intent can have a multitude of outcomes. How do you deal with cases where manifesting is involved and appears to interfere with the resolution? For example: If the woman above decides to get in shape, but then injures herself or gets into a car accident that hurts her back. How to avoid or get past that? I see it a lot. The Self-Karma would remain, as well as the resolution, regardless of circumstances along the way. To make this clearer, we will use an example of a man who has lost his legs who feels he is worthless without being able to walk. The Self-Karma is not in whether he can walk, or not, but in how he experiences whether he can walk, or not. If he is divided to such an extent that it paralyzes his capacity for choice, then he has generated Self-Karma. If he embraces his experience, or if he commits to rising above it, then the Self-Karma is resolved. For the woman who has hurt her back after commiting to improving the health of her body, she can still commit to the improvement of her health and body. When a commitment in one direction of resolution comes with great obstacles, or surprise obstacles, or challenges, the commitment itself must inherently make room for all of the possibilities of that path, or it is not a commitment. Is there a way of avoiding or lessening the chances of that happening in the first place? It seems to me that it happens when someone forces themselves towards one choice without being ready? You are correct that "forcing a choice" is still included in Self-Karma, as we described it as a compulsion. And that is a good point for differentiation: Resolution comes from EMBRACING YOUR CHOICE, not FORCING your choice. Forcing a choice leads to complications that compound the Self-Karma. Embracing a choice means absolute permission to explore that choice on your own terms at your own pace, and with an invitation to Essence, your friends, your loved ones for support in that choice. Forcing a choice is usually marked by intensity and often secrecy. Embracing a choice is usually marked by a gentleness and an openness without shame. That is not to say that embracing a choice would avoid any surprises, but that embracing a choice inherently brings the strength of adaptability. In addressing self-karma through another channel once, you told me to consider my greatest concern in life and I'll be on my way to identifying my self-karma... then you asked me "how satisfied are you with your response to friendship". Would you elaborate a little more on the why of that particular question and how it relates to my self-karma? For examination on a broader level, we would ask about the "greatest concern in life," and this would allow one to find his or her most pressing issue/s. Following this with a question about relationships would help to identify a category. That question would have been asked if we suspected it may be helpful to look into your Emotional or Relationship Category for refinement of that exploration. Thank you, good evening! Could you please give an example of, and resolution to, a spiritual self karma? Would perfectionism be a spiritual self karma? A broad example of a Spiritual/Instinctive Self-Karma might be those issues associated with Guilt and Shame. A specific Spiritual Self-Karma within Guilt or Shame might be in the experience of being an Old Soul among family members who are Baby and Young, and having to deal with this in a way that does not leave you feeling divided between "being yourself" and "compromising just to keep the peace." In that case, the choice would be between "being yourself" and letting others deal with that, or "Compromising to keep the peace" as a means of dealing with it on your own. The resolution would be in the fact that regardless of which choice you make, you are ALWAYS "yourself," and no context changes that, regardless of the facet you choose to bring forth appropriately or strategically. In an example you gave, - which is EXACTLY me, lol, and started with back injuries, are both options you gave equally valid for truly resolving the issue? Using that example, what happens if you improve yourself and then later on you end up backsliding or being injured, etc and are once again feeling overweight and unattractive? It seems like loving yourself as you are resolves the situation, whereas changing your body, while healthier physically, could be undone. Self-Karmic resolution is immediate and permanent and not based upon conditions. If the motivations for improving upon the body as a path to resolution is conditional upon reaching some conclusive state that will only THEN be satisfied, then it is merely a perpetuation of the Self-Karma. If one were to choose to improve upon the body as a means for reaching a state considered "beautiful," it would have to include kindness, patience, and a devotion to the self in a way that naturally translates into "beautiful as you are along the way." The embrace of the commitment to improve upon the body as a means to reach a greater state of beauty would mean that you are merely at one point in that spectrum of beauty, rather than its needing a finish line to cross. Another way to understand when one is in Resolution is when you know your choice is because you WANT to make that choice, not because you feel you HAVE to make that choice. "I HAVE to make this choice if I want to be beautiful" is not a choice that resolves Self-Karma. "I HAVE to accept myself as I am in order to feel beautiful" is equally imprisoning. In this case, it would be helpful to understand that the ideal of beautiful cannot be reached without creating steps along the way that are seen as beautiful to you. Much like building a brick house, it must be completed brick by brick. It is never helpful to deny that it is a brick house simply because it is not to a point where you feel you can live in it. For instance, the simple decision to "try to like how I look today" is a beautiful decision. It may not stick, but for now, it is beautiful. The more "for now" moments of beauty you extract from your experiences will add to the materials that build your ideal structure of beauty. The decision not to eat a certain way for the day because you feel this contributes to your better health is a beautiful decision, even if you do not choose that the next day. For now, it is beautiful. Those simple moments build into a matrix that helps to generate moments that are far more pivotal toward resolution. So you often surround yourself with 'conditions' when you are experiencing self-karma? Oh yes. Depending on the extent and depth of the Self-Karma, the more conditional your existence. "I can be beautiful as I am, as long as I am invisible." Those "conditions" generate a false reality, and that is what gets exhausting, not the actual process of resolution. Sustaining a false reality as a means to balance the divisions within is literally exhausting. All Self-Karma can be resolved in an instant once the truth of the absolute superficiality and uselessness is comprehended. ALL Self-Karma are simply forms of self-discipline that have gone awry in the self-parenting process. Or put another way, generated during the Third Internal Monad. Is the majority of self-karma generated during or through the 3rd IM or are their other times/experiences that generate a certain amount of self-karma as well? Self-Karma is almost entirely generated during the Third Internal Monad, and complicated or refined over the rest of the life. For instance: there may be the experience of being rejected based on appearance, which prompts one to be very concerned about appearance, which then becomes a divide within that acceptance is based heavily upon appearance, which then becomes specific to certain body parts, or spreads to include the entire body. So it might be useful looking at the experiences surrounding the 3rd IM in order to help identify some of the behaviours that are self-karmic? Find their genesis, so to speak, and understanding what has given rise to them, be able to put them into a more proper perspective? It is not necessary to understand from where or when these were generated. It will never matter where or when these were generated, as it is the current "you" who make the choices now. It would be similar to trying to understand when, where, and why you have brown hair. It does not matter. You have the choice to embrace that color, or to change it. We pointed out the timeframe of origin as a means to point out that many of these issues are "teen age" or "young soul" levels of issues, or even younger, and that their bearing has little validity or relevance to you as an adult or older soul. Self-karma is created by ourselves and not circumstances or others... Correct. It is created when one interferes with one's own choices to the point that it generates a divide within. Thanks Michael. You've touched on some of this already, but here's my original question/s: Could you comment on how Self Karma tends to be experienced across all soul ages, or is it more likely to be confronted by us as we mature in soul age? If you are alive, you most likely experience Self-Karma. Most Self-Karma is relative to the predominant Soul Age for your planet, or your current society within which you were nurtured. So there are links to Social/Cultural soul age? Relative...? All Soul Ages experience Self-Karma, but it is true that there are emphases within each: Infant and Old tend toward Spiritual Issues; Baby tends toward Intellectual/Expression Issues; Young tends toward Physical/Body Issues; and Mature toward Emotional/Relationship Issues. Though Old tends toward Spiritual Issues, they are prone to taking on the predominant issues of the times, and can run that gamut of issues across the soul ages, depending on what is of interest for exploration that has never been resolved. Most Old Souls that we know of have yet to resolve Self-Karmic issues remembered from their Young Soul days and are finally "getting around to them" now. That is because the current society fully supports Young Soul issues involving appearance, body, health, etc. When most of you were in your Young Soul days, your "Baby" or Intellectual/Expression issues were most explored. We would also point out that now that the planet is technically Mature Soul, newer generations would generate their Self-Karma during the Fourth Internal Monad. In an Old Soul Society, these would be generated during the Fifth Internal Monad. The predominant Soul Age during the lifetime usually indicates when the Self-Karma is generated, and though it can also indicate what kind, it is not necessarily limited to that. Does this mean we would have to wait for society to catch up to work through mature and old soul issues? No, we simply speak about the practicality of the times, since Self-Karma is generated and contained within the single Personality, which is most-often imprinted by the current society, but anyone can work on anything at any time. Oh, I misunderstood -- there are four categories of Self-Karma, but one only develops an issue within one category during any given lifetime? No. The timeframe for when they are usually generated is fairly consistent, and it can indicate the root of many issues, but could include issues from any category. In your response to another question, you mentioned that one must choose between being themselves and compromising to keep the peace. How do you accept that finding that compromise may never occur and to be accepting that your best attempts to rectify a situation will never be enough while accepting that the consequences of the failure of another will happen to them, without it creating the self-karma of guilt or shame? I seem to have this type of pattern repeating through the past five or ten years for me and I'd really like to break it somehow. We see that is a helpful question that addresses the nature of resolution when it is valid. In this case, if one were to choose to compromise for the sake of keeping the peace and does not experience this compromise as an assault against one's being, but finds that compromise still does nothing, then the the point of Being Oneself is still intact, as it is clarified that no amount of compromise makes a difference, and that the issue was never about one's Being. From that space within the original resolution, it would be a matter of decisions based on what to do with these individuals, and not to do with oneself. This may lead to another layer of Self-Karma because it might get to the Self-Karma one might have about who "should love me, no matter what." Do you endure the suffering within their presence as a means to receive potential love, or do you remove yourself from those people who should love you. In short, it might move into issues about where love, and what love, is in your life. Is it more loving to remove yourself from the exhausting exchanges, or is it more loving to allow room for their lack of love for your presence as you choose to love anyway. In most instances where one feels one must continually endure the presence of another while feeling exhausted and even damaged, then the question is not about love, but about Rights. Could you explain further on your definition of Rights? We will include our Map of Rights in the final transcript (see relevant entry here), but as an example: every fragment has the Right to Love and Be Loved, and this Right is either supported or removed in the process of a lifetime. So it might be a question of whether those who refuse to love have more of a right to your love than you do? Just curious about the obstacles to resolution of self-karma...what tends to keep us from resolving them? Are these obstacles different for the various soul ages? The most-common obstacles to resolution are boredom, specialness, and crisis management: Boredom is the result of rejection of Essence, and like a dog with anxiety cut off from his sense of resource, can chew off his own skin to keep busy with distraction. Specialness is a result of rejection of Uniqueness, and spends all of its energy seeking constant external validation for any sense of value. Uniqueness requires nothing for it to Be; it is inherent. Specialness requires constant feedback. Crisis Management is a result of rejection, or distortion, of one's strengths gained over the lifetime. It becomes far more familiar and routine to manage crises, or patterns of issues, than it is to use those strengths for managing the creation of the life, and new patterns of freedom. Boredom is usually linked to Self-Destruction and Greed; Specialness to Self-deprecation and Arrogance; and Crises to Impatience and Martyrdom. Put another way, Boredom often perpetuates Intellectual issues; Specialness perpetuates Emotional issues; and Crises perpetuates Physical Issues. That is a generality, but it is fairly consistent, keeping in mind that there may be layers within a Self-Karma. Could you give an example of Crisis Management in the final transcript? I am not sure I understand that one. We can give an example now: It is much more comforting and familiar to, say, manage the trauma and pain caused by your struggling to accept an invitation where you feel your appearance will be scrutinized, than to simply go, or not. Crisis Management vs Life Management. Crisis vs Choice. Crisis vs Creativity. Hello Michaels & Troy! Initially I wanted to ask WHY self-karma arises and why would we ever want to interfere with our own choices to the point of generating a divide, but I understand that the channel may be tired by now, so will ask instead if you could give an example of the most typical form of self-karma for an Old soul? We can answer both: Why one generates Self-Karma is simple to understand if one does not see it as such an imposition, but as a process of learning that moves from the experience of duality and into the experience of a spectrum, or wholeness. In every instance of Self-Karma there is duality, and in every resolution there is a spectrum, or wholeness. Self-Karma generates from over-simplifying, and Resolution comes from embracing complexity. In every lifetime, every Personality is born an Infant Soul in perspective, and seeks to not only return to the greater perspective already reached in previous lives, but to exceed that. However, this process includes a process from Duality to Spectrum, so to speak, so none escape that process. There is no typical Self-Karma for the Old Soul. If the Old Soul lives in an Old Soul world, then the Self-Karma might tend toward Spiritual issues as "typical," but otherwise, the Self-Karma tends toward the predominant Soul Age of the planet or environment. However, for the sake of example, a "typical" Old Soul/Spiritual Issue could be said to be the resolution between the fact of the current Personality as it exists among all Personalities across time for Essence. Recognizing the profundity of how small one really is in the scheme of things while seeking to retain a sense of identity, contribution, and participation can be terrifying. This is why we say that Old Souls learn through Terror. END OF CHAT
  13. June 17, 2007 Troy Tolley, Channel MICHAEL SPEAKS – E-mail Alternative Version In the beginning of June, we had a humpback mother whale and her baby swim up the Carquinez Strait (which I can see from my condo's balcony), into the Sacramento river, all the way to the Port of Sacramento. They were the only wild whales that received antibiotics for very bad injuries they received from possibly a keel of a sailboat. They got named Delta & Dawn. Are the Michaels able to find out how well they are doing now, if they are safe, well, and healthy? MEntity: It appears to us that the whales in question are doing well. Although there was disorientation involved to some degree, the main intent of the whales was for fun exploration of an area that has a reputation among whales as being mysterious, fantastic, and full of kind humans with the best interest of whales at heart. The wounds on the whale were sensed to be fairly fatal in the long run, due to infection, so while the “trip” was to be for fun and exploration, there was also the hope that the kind humans could help. Indeed, they did with the antibiotics, allowing for the whales to have validation of this potential among humans and the reports are spreading. We would not be surprised to find more whales exploring this same passage within the next 20 years. It is always assumed these creatures are lost, but it is often not the case. However, the same is assumed of your species while out on the open ocean. Why would you be there? It’s not your natural habitat or home. You must be lost. Often the interaction between whales and boats is from the same concern that humans have for whales in strange territories: they are hoping to redirect you home. Does brushing your skin with a boar bristle brush, brushing in the direction of your heart, really help the lymphatic system? MEntity: While it is not necessary to use the hairs of a dead animal as bristles, any medium-strength bristle brush (synthetic or otherwise) used to brush the skin is beneficial for the lymphatic system, the skin, and the blood. It is not necessary for the direction to be toward the heart, but this can add to the effect in a mental way that is valid as a ritual. I would like to know Michael's opinion on my problem of determining how far one needs to go to know that they are walking the walk rather than talking the talk. I want to live up to my beliefs, but it seems impossible to do 100%. How much is enough not to be a hypocrite? MEntity: “Beliefs” is a word that represents all the things that you presume to be possible or true, and seek to implement within your Being as foundations, but you do not have the experience or comprehension to turn those beliefs into knowledge. When you KNOW something, you implement it 100%. When you BELIEVE something, you may or may not implement the entirety of the belief. Older Souls in particular have a difficult time implementing beliefs until there is a sense of solid knowledge. Until you gain knowledge, all you have is a theory, not a truth. The lack of ability to implement a belief is not a matter of hypocrisy, but a matter of integrity that allows room for further investigation, experience, and eventually knowledge. Hypocrisy is only valid as a reference when one imposes beliefs upon others without doing the work of turning those personal beliefs into knowledge. It is called hypocrisy because there is always a discrepancy between the imposition and the behavior of the hypocrite, with the hypocrite using imposition as his or her way of avoiding knowledge, while enforcing false validation of his or her own beliefs. What is a transcendent soul (not the transcendental soul level)? My understanding is it is the same as what is called in India a Bodhisattva. MEntity: A Transcendental Soul is an Entity that takes on the task of incarnating within the Physical Plane as a means to help prepare for the manifestation of the Infinite Soul. The entire Entity does not incarnate, but one fragment from the Entity incarnates with full access to the entirety of the Entity's knowledge and experience. The fragment speaks and lives on behalf of the Entity. Although it could be said that there are parallels between the description of a bodhisattva and Transcendental Souls, Transcendental Souls are not resisting or avoiding any form of “enlightenment” as a means to remain physical. Most fragments or Entities or Cadres, by the time they reach what might be called a “state of enlightenment,” realize at that point that there is no “state of enlightenment,” as there is always more to learn, experience, and explore. Enlightenment is not a conclusive state. In addition to this difference between bodhisattva and Transcendental Souls, the Transcendental Soul is only concerned with INVITING fragments into a direction that is in alignment with the Logos that is to be brought to bear, but does not have a sense of compulsion to “save humanity.” In most cases of a “bodhisattva,” it is a single fragment who has egocentrically taken on this title as a means to exploit a position with a closed group, but certainly not as a benefit to humanity. We know of no fragment extant who uses the title or nickname of “Bodhi” to be without extreme indulgence in False Personality. In what time frame and location area were the most of us Michael students incarnate & interacting at the same time? MEntity: Nearly all of our students (approximately 100,000 of you) were incarnated within the areas known as The Nile River in Egypt and Mesopotamia between the years of 2500 and 1700 BCE before the invasion by the Hyksos, which ruined what we often refer to as one of our “Golden Ages” with our students. How best can we deal with others, when we find ourselves to be in opposition with their lifestyles and belief systems, to the point of some having physical and emotional pain over it? And, is ignoring their choices, to let them be who they are, somehow reflect that we are encouraging those choices by attending something that they are attached to? (We have been discussing certain celebrities, and the choices they make involving fundamental religions and cults.) MEntity: How one deals with one who is determined as being in opposition to one’s personal lifestyle and belief systems is a matter of choice and part of the experience of being Sentient. Soul Age plays a great part in how one deals with those who represent opposition to one's personal lifestyle and beliefs. Infant Souls would not have an inclination to be concerned with differences in lifestyles and beliefs, as they are more concerned with their own survival and superstitions; in fact, any oppositions would simply be seen as mythical forces representing demons of a sort that should be avoided at all costs. Baby Souls are the most violent and dominant against those in opposition to their lifestyles and beliefs, generally seeking any method possible to impose their own world over those around them. Young Souls are usually not concerned with whether others share in their beliefs and lifestyle, since they presume they are inherently “right” in how they view the world, anyway. They know “the truth” and there is a smug conclusiveness about their behavior, which in itself can be dominating and imposing. Mature Souls are very concerned about shared perceptions of reality and supporting those of which are beneficial to all. When there is a belief or lifestyle presented in the world that is in opposition to the benefit of all, this often creates a literal, physical pain within the Mature Soul. This pain comes from the personal history (within the life, or past lives) that knows the pain of oppression, rejection, and imposition. The process of taking stances against beliefs or lifestyles that are in opposition to the benefit of all is a process of healing one's own personal wounds, while increasing one's circle of compassion in a tangible way. Old Souls within your world at this time are still manifesting a great deal of the self through Mature Soul contexts, so you will find many Old Souls still working through Mature Soul stances, not only because many Old Souls are manifesting at the Mature Soul Age, but also because this helps the process of the Mature Soul world to take root permanently. Part of the point of being an Old Soul is in use of the ability to manifest from any previous Soul Age as a means to relate to all aspects of the world. The dominant energy in the world for most at this time is the Mature Soul context, so many Old Souls will find themselves still very passionate about issues in which they would otherwise find neutrality (not indifference, but neutrality). So in speaking about Old Souls, it makes sense to speak of them in terms of the Mature Soul at this time, which means that most will be contributing to any movement that is linked to the benefit of all. As long as the world is moving in the direction of Maturity, the active stance one takes on issues that inhibit compassion and freedom for all is quite important in terms of rooting Maturity in the world. No one is obligated to take a stance or to contribute to this rooting of Maturity, of course, but the contribution to this Maturity does accelerate for all, the more actively the species invests in those beliefs and lifestyles that benefit all. This stance is not a confusing issue for the Mature Soul, but for the Old Soul, it can be confusing as he or she stands in support of the lifestyles and beliefs that support the benefit of all, but still feels a sense of higher perspective that trusts that all lifestyles and beliefs are valid, even if destructive, and will eventually be of benefit to all, anyway. The Mature Soul still knows how important it is to invest in the betterment of life on the Physical Plane, while many Old Souls can often forget the importance of that, since they are “leaving soon,” anyway.
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    Old Sages

    [Excerpted from Michael Speaks: The Roles for Mature and Old Souls] MEntity: ... there is little recorded from us through our channels about the distinctions among the Roles in how they manifest through the Soul Ages, and we can address that today. ... The progression through the Soul Ages for the Roles could be described as a progression of emphasis from DOING to HAVING to BEING. Infant and Baby emphasize DOING. Young emphasizes HAVING. Mature emphasizes the reconciliation between HAVING and BEING. And Old emphasizes BEING. Understanding this can help lend insights into the various Soul Ages and how the Roles manifest. ... OLD SAGES The Old Sage has now moved through the Mature Age that helped to reconcile the struggle between HAVING FUN and BEING HONEST. Now the Old Sage begins to emphasize Being Honest, even if it means at the expense of Fun. Old Sages often begin to withdraw from the "stage" and move into tighter circles that value honesty and true communication. It is no longer appealing in any way to simply perform the life. For the first time, the Old Sage values the importance of truly being SEEN. Even if there are a myriad of personas from habit and skill, the emphasis will still be there underlying every relationship and every opportunity: PLEASE SEE ME. This starts out as a kind of panic for some Sages entering the Old Soul Age, in that their existence depends on the utter honesty and rawness of being SEEN, and this can show up in desperate attempts to be understood, clarifying themselves, over-explaining, etc. This eventually levels out to a simple state of invitation. The emphasis moves from needing to be seen exactly how the Sage sees himself or herself to an emphasis on understanding how others actually see. This comprehension frees the Old Sage from the panic and loneliness of not being seen, and moves him or her into simply BEING HONEST. Once the Sage realizes that he or she cannot control how others interpret others, then Being Honest stands as an invitation, not as a prompt.
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    Old Scholars

    [Excerpted from Michael Speaks: The Roles for Mature and Old Souls] MEntity: ... there is little recorded from us through our channels about the distinctions among the Roles in how they manifest through the Soul Ages, and we can address that today. ... The progression through the Soul Ages for the Roles could be described as a progression of emphasis from DOING to HAVING to BEING. Infant and Baby emphasize DOING. Young emphasizes HAVING. Mature emphasizes the reconciliation between HAVING and BEING. And Old emphasizes BEING. Understanding this can help lend insights into the various Soul Ages and how the Roles manifest. ... OLD SCHOLARS The Old Scholar has now moved through the Mature Age that helped to reconcile the struggle between HAVING EXPERIENCE and BEING INTIMATE. During the Mature Age, the reconciliation between Experience and Intimacy is a long, often painful, road for the Scholar. Much of what is considered necessary by the Scholar for Experience is to have as "clean" an experience as possible, which often means leaving others out of the inner world that processes these experiences. QUESTION: Could you define intimacy in the sense of your meaning? MEntity: Intimacy here is meant as any form of Resonance, from sharing common ground to sex. The key being that it is INCLUSIVE, in that what is shared is not only mutual, but experienced as mutual. More than any other Role, the Scholar struggles with issues of Intimacy, of feeling connected to others, of finding common ground, and of feeling embraced. The Old Scholar has realized that Experience and Intimacy are not mutually exclusive, but Intimacy has been put off for so long for the sake of experiments, exploration, etc., that the world of Intimacy as an Old Soul is entirely new for the most part. Because the nature of the Scholar is to observe objectively, then this search for Intimacy may often be approached from the angle of provision, in that IF it exists, then it must be something provided for the Scholar, and not something he or she must work to generate from the self. Intimacy is such an amorphous concept to the Scholar that in the Old Soul Age, it will either feign intimacy as a means to have any kind of human contact at all, often leaving it to others to sort out the details, or to nurture that intimacy, or it will finally realize that he or she IS the source of intimacy, and begin to develop this from "the inside, out." The issue for the Scholar is often that if it is not found externally, then it is not a valid Experience, and therefore is not to be trusted. Ironically, anything that is already deemed as so amorphous that it cannot be trusted when generated within will also be deemed suspicious when generated from others. Therefore, the key for the Old Scholar in his or her embrace of Being Intimate is to begin comprehending TRUST. Trust is a mix of anticipated results and past experiences. It is not blind, and therefore it can be used by the Scholar. When the Old Scholar begins to recognize his or her embrace of himself, he or she can then begin to embrace others. If the embrace of others is attempted before the embrace of self, then there will always be an equation that returns the Scholar back to the beginning. They are highly mathematical that way. Trust comes in as the gathering of experience grows to show the Scholar that he or she will not die because he or she reached out, and that one is not alone just because one might actually like oneself. In short, the validity of Being for the Scholar cannot be proven through others, but the validity of others can be proven through the embrace of Being.
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    Old Warriors

    [Excerpted from Michael Speaks: The Roles for Mature and Old Souls] MEntity: ... there is little recorded from us through our channels about the distinctions among the Roles in how they manifest through the Soul Ages, and we can address that today. ... The progression through the Soul Ages for the Roles could be described as a progression of emphasis from DOING to HAVING to BEING. Infant and Baby emphasize DOING. Young emphasizes HAVING. Mature emphasizes the reconciliation between HAVING and BEING. And Old emphasizes BEING. Understanding this can help lend insights into the various Soul Ages and how the Roles manifest. ... OLD WARRIORS The Old Warrior has now moved through the Mature Age that helped to reconcile the struggle between HAVING AMBITION and BEING SAFE. During the Mature Age, both of those terms become profoundly redefined so that "ambition" becomes "enthusiasm" and "safe" becomes "loved." The Old Warrior then begins to naturally generate enthusiasm over emphasis on accomplishment and ambition, and begins to persuade circles of love from the self and from others as opposed to circles of protection and safety. Protection is no longer seen in terms of defense against physical threats, but as a transformation of strengths through the capacity to love. This may go counter to what is often understood as a Warrior, but the Old Warrior is done fighting, and seeks to share what it has found to be the most bountiful resource and strength in the universe: Love. Of course, this can show up in many different ways and to several different degrees, but when the Old Warrior is manifested, it has a profound sense of safety in the world and seeks to extend that validity to others. If the Old Warrior has not comprehended that sense of safety, he or she will often show up as emphasizing warnings, concerns, preemptive strategies, and constant over-anticipation.
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    Mature and Old Servers

    [Excerpted from Michael Speaks: The Roles for Mature and Old Souls] MEntity: ... there is little recorded from us through our channels about the distinctions among the Roles in how they manifest through the Soul Ages, and we can address that today. ... The progression through the Soul Ages for the Roles could be described as a progression of emphasis from DOING to HAVING to BEING. Infant and Baby emphasize DOING. Young emphasizes HAVING. Mature emphasizes the reconciliation between HAVING and BEING. And Old emphasizes BEING. Understanding this can help lend insights into the various Soul Ages and how the Roles manifest. ... MATURE SERVERS Mature Servers tend to find themselves struggling with the reconciliation of Having Recognition, and Being Helpful. Over the course of the Young Soul Age, it finally occurs to the Server on a profound level that it is okay to be recognized, praised, rewarded, and that a reciprocating circuit of energy is vital to sustaining Service. Service is not a one-way circuit. One cannot serve where it is not received, and one cannot continue to serve without some form of exchange of nurturing at the very least. For many lifetimes previous to the Young Soul Age, this nurturing is either neglected until it cannot be any longer, or it is found in breaks between Serving. The Young Server then tends to use that entire Age to "catch up" on self-service to the extent that it can. In the Mature Age, then, the reconciliation begins between having that necessity of exchange in nurturing, and the core Being that seeks to serve in meaningful ways. Mature Servers, then, tend to be extremely busy, pulled in many directions, internally and externally, while they struggle with issues of utter availability and ineffective over-extension. The eventual reconciliation comes when the Mature Server only offers service when it can. OLD SERVERS The Old Server now emphasizes Being, and in this case, Being Helpful. At the very core of the Server is the design to HELP. (An aside: At first, all design in the early Soul Ages is manifested as compulsion as the default design is relied upon, but eventually becomes impulsion as the capacity for conscious choice grows.) Old Servers often do not "serve" at all in the capacity that one would think of as serving. The Mature Soul is ACTIVE. The Old Soul is PASSIVE. In this case, the Old Server "passively" Helps. The Old Server then begins to use exemplification as his or her means of offering Help. The entire life, self, and Being become the manifestation of Essence in that the Old Server WILL NOT allow himself or herself to suffer. If help can be gained from that by another, then the Old Server may extend upon that, but it has learned that suffering is a useless experience and will refuse to Help at the expense of self, but will unconditionally Help those who are willing to give up suffering. That may sound conditional, but it is not. It is simply a hard lesson learned that those who suffer most often choose not to be helped in any meaningful way. We define "suffer" here as that state of intellectual and emotional overwroughtness that leaves no room for solutions. Those who suffer in that way eventually learn that they are the only ones who can transform that experience, and all other influences are merely salves or addictions. The Old Server does not cater to that endless dynamic.
  18. Michael Speaks Live Chat Sunday, November 13, 2011 Troy Tolley, Channel The 7 Planes of Existence MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here now. We will share with you on the requested topic: The 7 Planes of Existence. We know that most of you are familiar with the 7 Planes as they have been described in our teaching, and are familiar to many teachings, even if in slight variation and understanding. Those 7 Planes are: Physical, Astral, Causal, Akashic, Mental, Messianic, and Buddhic (or Buddhaic). Each Plane is a Plane of Existence, and is a definite medium for consciousness to explore, learn, and evolve. These Planes exist one within the other, and overlap to some extent, with the Physical Plane being "in the center" and the densest, and the Buddhic being the outermost existence that permeates all Planes within it. It is often easier to imagine this as spheres within spheres. All 7 of these Planes ARE Tao. It is often described as Tao encompassing these 7 Planes, and that would be fair to say, but technically, Tao IS those 7 Planes. The whole that is greater than the sum of the parts, if you will. As you will see from our sharing of details about these Planes and their design, there will be a micro and macrocosmic consistency. Keep in mind that when we use the term "consciousness," it is often inclusive of all forms of consciousness, and not specific to Sentience. In other words, consciousness exists in a multitude of forms in your Physical Plane and in other planes. Rocks have a form of consciousness that is just as valid as Sentience. There are many lines of evolution of consciousness, and not all of them are Sentient. The greatest difference between Sentient and non-sentient consciousness is in terms of the extent of fragmentation and "direction" that the consciousness is actively moving. Sentience tends to be the most individualized of consciousness (most fragmented), generating within that consciousness a profound desire for return to Tao, or Oneness. Therefore, Sentient Consciousness is "on its way back" to Tao, and most other forms of non-sentient consciousness do not require such passages; non-sentience can be "absorbed" immediately back into Tao, if you will, and does not necessarily evolve. Sentience evolves. In other words, Sentience is the furthest and farthest one can get from Tao in terms of fragmentation. The return "home," then, for Sentience, is a long journey by most standards of measurement. Passage through these Planes of Existence are passages of reunion and union. It could be said, then, that the 7 Planes are the 7 Levels of Tao, as Tao evolves in its own way precisely through the collection of experiences gained through these fragments. Once one has become a Fragment, regardless of the return to Tao and the profound oneness that this entails, that unit of consciousness is its own thing "forever." Drops of water in an ocean who leave no boundaries between themselves and ocean, or each other, but existing as an identifiable unit of consciousness now. This is how "Grand Cycles" can happen. A Grand Cycle is a single journey of separation from Tao, incarnation through a species, and the subsequent return through the 7 Planes. Though we would have a difficult time describing this in terms of physics, each Plane is merely a variation of vibration of energy that is consistent among all Planes. Because of its vibrational state, it is "separate" enough that it exists as its own state. This would be similar to how ice, water, and steam could exist as the same, but different. For simplicity's sake, we can say that all Planes are made of Matter (Energy), and each Plane is a variation on Matter. The combination of what might be akin to molecules and how they function with one another generates each Plane. And differentiates each Plane. The consistency among all Planes is based on a set of physics that is reflected in the Physical Plane in many ways. Though there are a few places from which we could start, we will use your Carbon-base as the model. We will return to this reference to Carbon in a moment. First, we will state that every Planet has its own Physical, Astral, and Causal Plane. Particularly if there is Sentience evolving on that planet. Those Planes are variations on a theme, and each is mapped similarly. For the most part, these Ordinal Planes are themed in Densities, Tangibilities, and Identities. That is an oversimplification, but it is accurate. The Physical Plane is these themes in terms of Actions. The Astral is these themes in terms of Emotions. The Causal is these themes in terms of Intellect. The Akashic Plane is not a Plane in which any consciousness resides, but is a memory bank. Rather than passing through this Plane, it is central to both the Causal and Mental Planes' use for evolution. It could be said to be the ordinal version of Tao. The Mental Plane expands to encompass what we will describe as a Galaxy. A Galaxy would be a collection of 49 Planets of Sentience in proximity. The Messianic Plane expands to encompass what we will describe as a Galaxy Group, or 49 Galaxies that house Sentience. The Buddhic Plane is relative to a Galaxy Cluster, or 49 Galaxy Groups. Tao, then, could be said to be the Cosmos, or the manifest Universe. From what we have learned, there are boundaries on our Universe, as there are other Universes. We use "Universe" here in the sense of organized Planes for Sentient development, and not whimsically referencing different parallels or emotional perceptions. This is literal. We know that each Universe must be a closed "space," if you will, as the patterns that are generated indicate interference patterns, indicating reflection. The patterns are far too consistent not to indicate this, as far as we can see. Returning to Carbon as the building block, not only are forms within the Physical Plane relevant to the building blocks of Carbon, but so are all forms of consciousness born of, or returning to Tao through, Carbon. Much of our own Teaching reflects this, as we use the dodecaphonic scale, which is a musical counterpart of Carbon, for most aspects of our teaching. Our systems of 12, 7, and 9 (which are still systems of 12) are related to this dodecaphonic/carbon scale/ratio, and while there is not an obvious element of 5 in our teaching, it is built in on many levels, which we can expound upon at another time. For now, we will reference the 5 Soul Ages before cycling off, and what we refer to as Clusters (of lives) that are in groups of 5. These numbers will be relevant for building upon. We can return to them in further explorations with us. For now, we will return to the details of the Planes. The 7 Levels of the Physical Plane are the 7 Soul Ages: 5 of which are done before cycling off, and two of which are completed by returning as a reunited entity, and as a representative of Tao. All fragments will move through those 7 Levels of the Physical Plane (7 Soul Ages). There are 7 Levels of the Astral Plane, as well. As every Plane bleeds through, so to speak, to each bordering Plane, the 1st Level of the Astral could be said to be the Level of Imagination. This is from where each fragment accesses Imagination. At its best use, it is what you are familiar with in terms of "imagination," but it is also where those who induce altered states through drugs can tend to go, as well as where troubled Personalities can often bleed into, and where suicides are processed, and from where hauntings are sustained. It is the Level from which "heaven" and "hell" are generated, and other such nonsense. The 2nd Level of the Astral is where most go between lives, and when dreaming. The 3rd Level is where one resides when cycled off. It is also the level in which one will complete any Karma that did not require Physical incarnation. The Mid-Astral or 4th Level is what is accessed between lives by fragments as a means for planning and studying and review. Even if one is on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Levels, this 4th is accessed in ever more refined ways for the evolution of the Essence, and creation of a life. It is also from which one's guides tend to reside, and where your partially-reunited entity resides. Even if your guide is not cycled off, if acting as a guide, it is functioning through the use of this Level. Or, at least, trying to. The 5th Level is one of Comprehension, and it is where your Entity members work through full disclosure. Everything that was never known, kept secret, private, personal, for any Personality is now brought forth as the entity prepares for reunion. This is a chaotic and quite emotional process. The 6th Level is the Healing, or the actual Reunion process. Though the more chaotic aspects of reunion have been processed, this can actually be even more painful. The 7th Level then is the full union of the Entity, in terms of its Emotional intimacy. The 5th, 6th, and 7th Levels are the only levels that are free from living counterparts, or incarnating fragments. The first three can be accessed fairly easily by Personalities from the Physical Plane. The Causal Plane also has 7 Levels, but these become more difficult to clarify in terms that are easy to convey, as the linear aspect begins to break down, even as it does not. The Lower, or Ordinal, Causal Plane could be said to be a process of refining our ideas and ideals. Now that we have united emotionally, we then build a new identity from that. Though "identity" is a crude term in the context of the Causal Plane, it is still valid. This is because, even as we speak as one, we are well aware of our parts, and our differentiation from other entities on our Plane. We still experience a passage of time and space, though in vastly different ways from what is familiar to the Physical Plane, but still a passage, nonetheless. Over the course of the first three Levels, entities take different lines of evolution that are in groups: some of which are Guides, some of which are Teachers, some of which are Healers, some of which are Muses, and so on. We chose to Teach. The 4th Level, then, is from where every Entity of the Causal will put into effect its ideas and ideals, through Guiding, Teaching, Healing, Musing, etc. From this Level, we begin our direct access of the Akashic Plane. The Akashic exists within every Plane in some form. Even within the Physical Plane, the Instinctive Center is a line to the Akashic Plane, or a part of it. The high Causal Plane, then, is from where Transcendental Souls incarnate, or the 6th Soul Age. Transcendental Souls incarnate from the 5th, 6th, or 7th Levels of the Causal. Keep in mind that a Transcendental Soul is a single fragment incarnated as a representative of the collective knowledge of the Entity from the Causal. This incarnation is still subject to all of the scathing, distractions, and problems of being Human, however, but will have the entire Entity as direct support, if the Personality allows for it. There are many Transcendental Souls who incarnate who fail in that respect, though they certainly "have a good time." The Mental Plane is the exalted Causal Plane, where direct Intellectual contact is made with Tao. The Messianic Plane is the exalted Astral Plane, where direct Emotional contact is made with Tao. The Buddhic Plane is the exalted Physical Plane, where direct contact is made with Tao, or merging. Infinite Souls incarnate from one of these Planes, when incarnated, and bring the Logos of Truth, Love, or Energy, respectively. There are 7 Levels within each of these, but they are even more difficult to convey in any linear terms than the Causal Plane's Levels. It is easier to understand them in terms of Lower, Mid, and Higher. The Lower tend to be about introductions to that Plane, and a refining of focus, with the mid-plane being the implementation of that focus, and the higher being the comprehension of the results of all of that. We will pause now for your questions on this subject. We know this is a vast subject that can be difficult to package, but it is a subject that is relevant and can be comprehended. Question: How “fine” does this get -- Do the 7 Levels of each Soul Age relate in any way to the 7 Levels of Existence? MEntity: They are, all, related in some resonant way, or they could not build upon each other. It is all music. The 7 Internal Monads within the 7 Levels within the 7 Soul Ages within the 7 Planes. The 7 Levels of a Soul Age, can be understood when superimposing the 7 Planes as ways to understand those Levels. Comparing the Physical Plane to the 1st Level of a Soul Age can be helpful. Comparing the Astral Plane to the 2nd Level can be helpful. Comparing the Causal to the 3rd Level can be helpful. And so on. Keep in mind that there will be resonance, but not definition. In other words, clues and insights can be gained through these comparisons, but Soul Level is very different from Age, and Plane. Our system is designed for "mixing and matching" as a means to gain more insight. Question: Not to put too fine a point on the terminology that was developed today, but I would like a reiteration or confirmation that the use of the terms by you of Galaxy, Galaxy Cluster, or Tao as a Universe has little in common with our scientific astrophysics use of these terms and that further the use of Tao isn't equivalent to “All that is.” MEntity: There are some correlations. We think that some Astrophysicists are onto something in terms of organizing the universe. Consciousness equals Gravitation, to some extent. Consciousness is the gravitational force that holds together matter. Galaxies are grouped and clustered in terms of gravity and consciousness, and this is parallel to some working theories or observations. Comment: Except you define these by groups of 49 MEntity: So while we are not drawing direct parallels to the more mundane use of these terms, there are some similarities that are relevant. We think that some Astrophysicists choose the same number. Though we do not think it has become a standard. Question: So would our "Big Bang Theory" be an oversimplification of the Buddhaic Plane in action and is the theory even close to being accurate? MEntity: It is quite close, at least in terms of the fragmentation that then moved into forms. Though there are scientific details that will always be lacking in terms of describing or defining these origins, it works very well in symbolic ways. Question: How are suicides processed on the 1st level astral, and where do they go from there? [note corrected from 2nd Level to 1st Level] MEntity: They are processed in a multitude of ways that would be similar to experiencing dreams that play out all varieties of scenarios that help to comprehend the process of choices that led to the death, as well as an observation of all of the parallels remaining that are not dead. The Astral Plane is very similar to "Earth," or the Physical Plane, and feels very "real" on many levels, though it is far more malleable in terms of matter. Many who experience suicide then will start the entire life over on the Astral, playing out new choices. We designated Suicides to the 1st Level, but all fragments incarnating will move among the first three Levels during and between lives. Lives that do not end in Suicide tend to move directly into the 2nd, while Suicides tend to move into the 1st. Question: can they get stuck there, as well? MEntity: This is because of the attachment to the life. No fragment is ever "stuck," but depending upon the processes necessary for that Personality to heal, it can take quite some time. The reason for those who have exited using Suicide tending to remain in the 1st Level is because that is the easiest for those who were a part of that life, and who remain incarnated, to access that person. This helps contribute to the healing. Once the healing begins, the replaying of the life begins. This is a subject in itself, but that is the basic idea. Question: At 5th level Astral, is the anguish experienced more by the individual fragments as they are laid "naked and exposed" to the other members of the Entity, or by the other members of the Entity as they learn all there is to know of everyone else? Are there still harsh judgments to overcome at that stage of evolution? Also, it has been said that Priests "come into their own" on the Astral. Does this usually occur at this stage, helping themselves and others through the difficult 5th level and then healing in the 6th level? MEntity: The difficulty is experienced in both ways. It can be quite terrifying and painful to have everything revealed, and just as terrifying and painful to learn what one did not know while alive. This is especially difficult for those Personalities who were incarnations during the Baby and Young. The Mature and Old Souls eventually lose the interest in dishonesty, secrets, and privacy. The Personalities of Essence who were the most honest, vulnerable, and comfortable with exposure tend to work with those younger Personalities in resolving the shocking revelations. Every Personality of every lifetime is represented as its own identity and speaks for itself, so to speak. Comment: I wonder if this is then repeated at each merge after that MEntity: What you might experience as great halls are used for these processes, with all of the Personalities organized into tiers of emotional honesty for then working with mediating among all of those who had the most difficult times with those qualities. Comment: this sounds as much an intra-Essence process as inter-Essence. MEntity: It is often quite upsetting to find out that "best friend sally" had been exploiting you for access to your "loving husband bill" and that you knew none for the better. But all of you will know "everything" at some point. None of this is Karmic, but entirely focused on healing. In terms of Priests, they are the fragments who run these meetings, and help to direct the healing, as they tend to have the greatest extremes of Personalities that range between manipulatively dishonest and painfully honest. Priests quite often have a theme of "knowing what is good for you," or "the highest good," and doing whatever it takes to impose that. Every Role has a part in the processes of the Higher Astral, but it is organized and directed by the Priests. Question: How and in what form is the information on the Akashic Plane stored and accessed, and is there a way for us to visualize it? MEntity: We do not know how to describe this, but we can try to describe it in relative terms: We would have to say that it is database that is like an ocean of light that has no form until directly accessed. The closest we can come to describing this to you is in how your own imagination works. Your imagination gives rise to form from an ocean of light, if you will. However, Imagination is not information, and it is emotional. The Akashic Plane behaves in a similar way to imagination, except that it is in response to Thought. That is why it is such a tedious process for learning to access and interpret the data, because if any element of emotion is involved, the data is "tainted" or distorted with imagination, and is not pure information. In much the same way that the Physical Plane must be transcended while diving into the utter profundity of emotions in the Astral, so must the Emotional Plane be transcended while diving into the utter profundity of intellect in the Causal. It is not that one is better or worse than the other, but simply different processes of focus and experience. The way it works for us is that each of you have a "room" here that is your personal part of the Akashic. When we work with you in a way that requires our accessing this, we open that room and it reveals to us the details necessary for us to respond to your questions. Those details are revealed to us in two ways: your way, and our way. We get to see the data in your terms, first, which is often rich with emotional elements. We must then strip the emotional embellishments away from that data to get the most refined and accurate responses delivered to you. The more emotional your questions, the more difficult that process is. This is why your questions about relationships and mate agreements and other desired, longed for, craved, grieved, etc. can be difficult for us to deliver clearly to you. Add to that the fact that as soon as data includes another fragment and his or her data, we have to double the work of that process. Of course, that description is not as complicated as our description sounds, but it is a fair description. On the most basic levels, we can say this: The Akashic Plane of a fragment (instinctive center) or of an entire Universe are simply interfaces for recording, accessing, and interpreting all of the variations on the interference patterns that exist. The actual medium is the medium, itself. Question: Is it possible for higher plane teachers to physically, suddenly manifest without being born on the physical plane? Or is that a myth? MEntity: We have never heard of such a thing. That is not to say that they cannot "appear," but this would be generated from through the lower astral, or the Imagination, and can be just as effective. Question: So if consciousness is the gravitational force that holds matter together, what is it that pushes them apart? Astrophysicists have deemed this "dark energy" and "dark matter" in that it is so dark and non-interacting that we don't know anything about it. What is your interpretation of this? MEntity: We must first say that the concept of "dark matter" will eventually be replaced with better terminology and understanding, as it is found to be far more active than suspected. For the sake of working with current terminology and understanding, we will say that it could be said to be the unconscious. Not the subconscious, but the unconscious. And by "unconscious," we simply mean the unformed, and the medium from which form is formed. Question: like unrealized potential energy? MEntity: And realized. It is a resource. Question: In what ways and what type of karma can be resolved on the third level astral that do not require a physical plane experience? MEntity: Any Karma that did not require a body. A Physical Body, that is. Question: and what would that be? MEntity: Mind Fucking, Betrayal, Emotional Abandonment or Neglect, etc. Philanthropic Inspiration, Emotional Healing, etc. Question: how would these be resolved? MEntity: Often in quite similar methods as would be used through a Physical Plane body, but simply not actually being Physical. The familiarity of the Physical Plane is replicated as a fairly consistent and large mapping of the Astral for just such things. What we spoke about in the Levels was specific to that 3rd Level, in that once discarnate, further Karma can continue to be burned, but that is not the only Level that can address non-Physical Karma. Some of this happens even as you are incarnated. We know of many of you who have awakened from a rather profound dream of affection and love from some unknown relationship, or have played out scenarios that have no bearing on your current life, but felt like lifetimes lived, or have shared profoundly erotic and intimate moments with a "famous" person that were clearly more than fantasy. These can often be a burning of a ribbon. Question: So even after cycling off, there is opportunity to burn off any remaining karma that does not require physical form? MEntity: Often those Karma addressed on the 3rd Level after cycling off are much like "bonus" rounds that both parties had dropped as requiring balance, but are then addressed for the sheer sake of experience.
  19. OMW - Jan 12, 2013 - Checking In With Essence Channel: Troy Tolley [CocteauBoy] Okay, so today's topic is CHECKING IN WITH ESSENCE. [CocteauBoy] I thought this would be a good subject to explore because we tend to think of a new year as a turning point where we review where we've been, and look ahead at where we'd like to go. [Maureen] Will it be interactive Troy? [CocteauBoy] It's not that Essence is something separate from us, but that we (as personality) are a PART of Essence, so there is some sense of identity that is monadic (two parts that intrinsically create the whole). [CocteauBoy] So "checking in with Essence" we can think of it as checking in with something beyond ourselves, or as checking in with ourselves in a different way than usual, or whatever works for you. CocteauBoy asks - FIRST QUESTIONS: What does it mean to you to "check in with Essence," and why did this title for the workshop interest you? What do you expect to gain from this workshop? [CocteauBoy] Answer as you like... [Janet_] You mean, like, right now? [Martha] I think I do it a lot, but I think I could do it better [CocteauBoy] Janet, yeah! [Janet_] Like Martha, I think I do this, but it is hit or miss. [CocteauBoy] I want to read where each of you are with the idea, and what you thought this workshop might produce for you, before going into trance. [Martha] it's hard to tell "me" from "Essence", would like more of a sense of a conversation [AnnH] Because I don't think I'm all that good at checking in with Essence and would like to be more aware of it. [Nadine_AP] I thought it would be a good idea to keep in check while working through my 4th IM [GeraldineB] I've read and reread most of the articles on a Conscious Connection to Essence; however, I still consider it a whole lot like "praying," i.e., it's not an interactive process, I don't get feedback. So, it's like talking to thin air. [AnnH] (Exactly, Martha) [CocteauBoy] Make sure you read the question. It's not an assessment. [AnnH] Also, because it would be fun. I think my Essence is fun when I get tiny glimpses. [Janet_] I'm hoping for suggestions on how to more reliably check in and know I'm in contact. [Maureen] I see it Essence and Personality like a continuing discourse -- listening and talking. So I guess checking in with Essence would be to stop for a minute and and see where we are at. -- as a "team". [GeraldineB] Well, I'm trying to explain that this would be my "goal" or interest -- a sense of genuine interaction. [Bobby] Frequently, I'll be involved in something and will just say "oh, LET'S see where this goes" as in Let Us, me and Essence [Nadine_AP] Same as Janet and Geraldine, I would be able to make a more conscious connection, too [Diane_HB] I suppose I check in with Essence quite often, but I'd like to hear what suggestions Michael has on the subject. [Nadine_AP] *would like to be able [Bobby] I like to think of it as a partnership but like Geraldine suggested, one of the partners is blind, deaf, and mute :-) [ClaireC] I'd like to be able to truly differentiate between what the CF's are saying versus Essence feedback. [GeraldineB] I think I do pick up a fair amount of contact information through intuition, but I don't know where I end and Essence begins [CocteauBoy] I'll bring in Michael for the rest of this workshop now. If you have more to write, you can keep sharing as I go into trance. Have a great session, you guys! * CocteauBoy is bringing in Michael now... * CocteauBoy is now known as MEntity [MEntity] *********** [MEntity] The concept of "Essence" or a soul is one that is quite complicated for most who are extant, even when one is fully embracing of the general concept. [MEntity] When one is Infant, the lines between Essence and Personality are so blurred that there is no differentiation. When one is Baby, the concept is so skewed that Personality becomes the main navigator. When one is Young, the rejection of Essence is so strong, it does not matter much. [MEntity] When one is Mature, the concept is revisited through experimentation and intensities that promote a return to the blurring of differentiation. [MEntity] When one is Old, there is an eventual state that has no blurring, no skewing, and no rejection. One simply IS. [MEntity] Everything outside of that is imprinting. [MEntity] For the Old Soul, the wholeness that is Essence and Personality is inherent. To sustain a differentiation takes effort, requires lies, and feels painful in both tangible and vague ways. [MEntity] For the Old Soul, the effort to sustain a differentiation between Essence and Personality is the equivalent of trying to imagine NOTHING. Personifying Essence as something seperate from you can be useful, beneficial, and insightful, but only temporarily. To presume a personification of Essence as separate from you is like trying to sustain a the concept of Nothingness. [MEntity] If you try to imagine nothing, you imagine SOMETHING. [MEntity] You imagine something as representative of nothing. [MEntity] That is because there is no state of nothingness in the known Planes and Universes. It can only be represented, symbolically conceptualized, and usually only in comparison to something. [MEntity] The concept of Essence is similar. It never was NOT "you." It was never separate. It can never be rejected. It was always "you." [MEntity] We speak often of Essence and Personality being "separate" for the sake of learning and teaching about the various dimensions of "you," but this is no different from helping you understand how your hand functions during rehabilitation, even as your hand was always connected and a part of the whole of your body. [MEntity] The more your hand can function effectively, the more it is a part of the whole of the body. The more your Personality functions effectively, the more it is aligned with the whole of Essence. [MEntity] However, just as you focus your attention on the rehabilitation of the hand through exercises, experiences, rest, stretching, etc., it is that very "you" that transcends the divide between hand and body, between Personality and Essence. [MEntity] Because Essence is a spectrum that ranges across all Planes, Times, and Bodies, the necessity for focus is vital for the continual reawakening process, or "rehabilitation" of parts, if you will. Every lifetime is a part of the body of Essence. [MEntity] In some lifetimes, that focus is intense and myopic. In other lifetimes that focus is expansive and multidimensional. [MEntity] Relatively speaking, the Old Soul, extant, exhausts the body trying sustain differentiation of Essence from Personality. This is from the vast ocean of imprinting available from the Physical Plane about the concept of Essence, or soul. It ranges from being outrageously omnipotent and perfectly knowing, to being parental and absolute in guidance, to being non-existent. [MEntity] One thing that rarely has the same appeal and embrace is the idea that Essence... is "just you." [MEntity] In all of your mistakes, fears, cravings, longings, excitement, desires, appetites, pride, aloneness, joy, intimacy, distance, beauty, plainness, extravagance, indulgance, restraint, sadness, happiness, failing, successes, etc. YOU are Essence. [MEntity] From the perspective of Essence, the experiences of the Physical Plane and body are never NOT new. It may have experienced sadness a million times, but this does not mean it transcends the experience of sadness. No matter how many times a hand may touch HOT, it will always be HOT. [MEntity] Consider that no matter how many times you touch HOT within a lifetime, it will always be HOT, and always a new HOT; t is still always HOT, and always NEW. For Essence, across a multitude of bodies, that experience is never old, and never not true, and never not meaningful. [MEntity] This is the same of your experiences beyond mere touch. [MEntity] The only difference in your experience is your focus. [MEntity] When you first touch HOT, it may seem the end of the world, but when you have touched it a thousand times, it is still HOT, but you know you will survive. You know it is temporary. You know it is a natural part of experience. You know it is informative. You know. [MEntity] Expand upon this and you have your phases of depression, your phases of joy, your phases of intimacy, your phases of aloneness, lifetimes of suffering, your lifetimes of bliss, and Essence grows to know that it can survive it all, learn from it, and always gain from the experience. Always. [MEntity] By the time you are an Old Soul, you know this, too. And it gets harder to not know this. [MEntity] Because, by now, you know: You Are Essence. [GeraldineB] Question: If we are Essence, then why would we need to check in? [MEntity] You can pretend, imagine, lie, presume, fantasize, romanticize, and fragment yourself as Essence, but you will still know. [MEntity] Geraldine, Troy described the topic for our discussion with you; we are prompted by that description. We do not hand these topics to Troy. He decides upon them from his own ideas and perceptions. [GeraldineB] [laughing] OK [MEntity] However, we will return to that description in a moment, as it is relevant. [GeraldineB] Nevermind the interruption :) [Martha] ha h aha [MEntity] However focused one may be within Personality, one is always Essence. Even "the worst" of peoples. This is because Essence is vastly inclusive and incapable of truly rejecting experiences that parts of itself (Personality) bring to it. [MEntity] To presume that one person is not of Essence over another is like a fish judging another fish for not being of the same body of water. To try to convince someone of Essence, then, instead of allowing for their own growth and awakening, is about as useful as a fish trying to get another fish wet. [MEntity] "Checking in" with Essence is a valid phrase to consider while within a lifetime and body because most forms of "checking in" only occur in death. Death is the ultimate "checking in." [AnnH] lol [GeraldineB] Good Ole 7th IM [MEntity] As you embrace the idea of your being Essence, you will find that the phrase of "checking in with Essence" means something even more profound that previously romanticized. It is a checking in with yourself. [MEntity] This may not be as romantic as the idea of checking in with some higher parental guidance and force that is laced with religious and cultural imprinting, but it is far more profound and empowering. It is the ultimate responsibility for your life, your choices, you. [MEntity] Before we continue: How do you feel or think about this ownership of Essence as YOU, with Personality merely being a focus, instead of as a concept of being a flailing fragment tethered to omnipotence? [Martha] "flailing fragment tethered to omnipotence" lol [Martha] I do feel comfortable with it [GeraldineB] Well, I accept that fragment is a part of Essence, is the spiritual body, but I don't quite understand how Essence can be ME and still not be tuned into whatever I'm doing [Nadine_AP] It feels right. [Martha] I feel like Essence IS tuned in, but I don't feel much of a sense of conversation, other than just talking to myself [GeraldineB] Well, it's the paradox of Personality having all choice, not Essence . . they design, we dispose. [Janet_] I am comfortable about the concept. [Diane_HB] I think this is a much more peaceful concept than thinking of myself or others as separate from Essence. [AnnH] What Martha said. [MEntity] Geraldine: what makes you think Essence is not tuned in to "whatever you are doing?" [GeraldineB] If they are tuned in, I wouldn't need to review or check-in [MEntity] Geraldine, this presumption would not be true. [MEntity] Even while in a body, stretches of time can pass where you were fully engaged in your day, but if we were to ask you about a specific day and what meal you had on that day, or what someone said to you that day, or what tv show was watched on a certain day and time, you may not be able to call up that memory to save your life, so to speak, even though "you were there." [MEntity] However, you may find that you remember entire experiences from even further back in time. [MEntity] This is the difference between "checking in" and not. [GeraldineB] Do you mean that checking in is actually a way of accessing forgotten memories? [MEntity] Your brain will continue to store all experiences, from the most minute to the most profound. Your Essence absorbs all experiences for the Akashic Records, like a brain for the soul, but what matters to it is "remembered," and this can be enhanced through "checking in." [Maureen] I never feel disconnected from Essence. When I feel separate is when I know "I" am making a conscious choice to disregard Essence for awhile. When I do that I feel like a kid who wants to experience something on her own -- without any "influence". [MEntity] Checking in can help recall, but we prefer the term to be thought of less as a tool, and more of as a state. [MEntity] By this we mean: [MEntity] When you feel disconnected from Essence, in need of guidance, support, etc, that you not dismiss YOU as the greatest force behind your own life, choices, feelings, memories, plans, etc. but that you "check in" with yourself, allow for all of the feelings and fears, but not at the expense of your power, force, presence, and wholeness. [MEntity] Wholeness allows for all of it, so fear and panic do not need to be rejected for wholeness to return. Ironically, in the embrace of your wholeness and power, the fear tends to dissipate, transform. [MEntity] Checking in with Essence is a return to you. A recollection of the fragmentation of your mind, your heart, and even your body. [GeraldineB] this makes sense to me [MEntity] It is a moment, a practice, and eventually a state, that makes room for all of it without forgetting. It is ownership of your KNOWING. [MEntity] Your fragmentation, your fear, is merely forgetfullness. [MEntity] You cannot UN-know, but you can forget. [MEntity] Checking in is a practice in remembering. [MEntity] Keep in mind: [MEntity] In the same way that you do not have to consciously breath, neither do you have to presume that your knowing, your embrace of self as Essence, means having conscious access to all that is Essence. The hand does not have to understand the eye for itself to work, and the eye does not have to control metabolism for it to work, and metabolism does not have to know how to walk for the body to move, and so on. [MEntity] However, no part can be said to function independently of the whole that is the body. [MEntity] And so it is for you, as a part of all that is Essence. The hand is itself and does its own thing that the eye cannot, and the body, as a whole, gains from functioning of the hand. The hand, then, for its best and highest functioning, would consider itself as the whole, even if not completely aware and monitoring of all of the parts. To presume itself cut off, or to not consider the whole, is akin to being numb, or amputated, which benefits neither the hand or the body. [MEntity] The more you own your part in the body of Essence, the more the whole and all of its parts functions and benefits. [MEntity] This ownership of remembering, responsibility, power, presence, and wholeness is more than half of the battle for getting the best out of your life, healing the past, and creating the future. [MEntity] Before we move on, we will open the floor to your comments and questions regarding what has been shared, so far. [MEntity] ****** [Diane_HB] This makes sense to me. I have been moving toward this perspective in some ways. [Diane_HB] And, I check in with myself fairly frequently. I don't feel "myself" if I don't. [Maureen] You are right Michael -- in that people are often looking for omnipotence or some woowoo with Essence when actually Essence can be quite quiet and will "come to you" when you are still or "in the moment". [MEntity] The search for Essence is much like the search for a lost pair of sunglasses that are later found to be on your head. [Diane_HB] lol [Maureen] LOL [Martha] :) [Diane_HB] I know what that's like. :) [Nadine_AP] lol [AnnH] heh [Maureen] I'm getting a 3D Deja Vu on the sunglasses -- maybe I dreamed about this last night. [Bobby] Is any fragmentation caused if you imagine the relationship as a partnership? [MEntity] Bobby, as you may have come to see over time, the concept of "fragmentation" is even more of an illusion (a useful one, but an illusion, still the same) than the concept that one is seperate from Essence. To personify Essence can be helpful, even if as a temporary illusion. Dreams are illusions, but the symbolism is incredibly useful. Illusions (and fragmentation) are not to be thought of as things to avoid, but tools for use as necessary. When they are considered conclusive, then they can become problematic. [MEntity] Fragmentation is merely scattered foci. [MEntity] Illusions are merely symbolic extensions. [MEntity] Both are useful and important. [MEntity] Neither can sustain continuity or existence for long, relatively speaking. [MEntity] We highly recommend personifying Essence, particularly so if one can do so while holding the contradictory notion that it is not separate. [MEntity] We can recommend this, because Essence already does this. In being you, in the first place. [GeraldineB] Sparky! [Bobby] :-) [MEntity] And it is the nature of Tao. Our fragmentation from Tao is a profoundly beautiful and useful illusion, and all of our bodies through the planes are always creative personifications of our most current idea of who we are. [MEntity] The differences in higher planes is that we have learned to enjoy it more, to allow it, and to know that all of it changes. [MEntity] Your body, no matter how battered, worn, sick, suffering, pleasured, fat, skinny, ugly, beautiful, is your own idea, given form. All descriptions of our body that are born of comparison are as superficial and temporary as a preference for chocolate over vanilla, or one brand over another. [MEntity] Those preferences are meaningful and provide their own part in the dance of experience, but they will never supercede the perfection of reflection. [MEntity] This is not to say that one must accept his or her lot in life with the body that one has, but that the dance that your body prompts is far more relevant than your preoccupation with it for comparison. [MEntity] It is not YOUR Body. It is YOU. [MEntity] It is not YOUR Essence. It is YOU. [MEntity] Checking in with Essence, then, is the embrace of yourself as part of the bridging of all of these parts. [MEntity] If you are in this particular workshop, you are probably "done" with the distraction of fragmentation and the weight of being bothered with superficial comparisons. You know this. You cannot un-know it. But remembering this, and returning yourself from forgetfullness, is something you must take on as your responsibility from here. [MEntity] This is where this teaching is intended to help move your consciousness. Not just toward the novelty and brief comforts of remembering, but toward your capacity to live in that remembering, in your knowing. In Essence. [Martha] Sounds like vividry [MEntity] Here are three things that you can note to yourself as phrases for sustaining your wholeness, and allowing for everything to exist within that: [MEntity] When you feel ugly, fearful, anxious, upset, angry, helpless, lonely, etc. we suggest that you embrace those things, but always along with the phrase, "It is okay for me to forget for a while." [MEntity] This conscious embrace of forgetfullness does two things: relieves you of the internal conflict of fighting against those natural reactions, feelings, and thoughts so that they can move through like thunder clouds in the sky of who you are, but also, ironically, keeps you from actually forgetting. [MEntity] On a daily basis, at various points in the day, when nothing in particular is happening, it can be helpful to state out loud, or internally: "I remember now: I like me." [MEntity] This simple phrase can do two things, as well: it can bring a moment of remembering and awareness, of course, but it can also be a confession against all of your imprinting and superficialities of being bad, wrong, ugly, too fat, too thin, too alone, not enough, etc. This confession is more truthful than any of those things. [MEntity] You may only barely like yourself, and you can always like yourself more and more as you aim for agape, but if you are breathing, you like yourself enough, to some small degree, and this outweighs all of the "bullshit." [MEntity] We pause now to ask each of you to answer this question as sincerely and as honestly as you feel inclined: DO YOU LIKE YOU? [Diane_HB] YES!! [Maureen] YES!! [Janet_] I do like me. [GeraldineB] Yes, I do! [AnnH] For the most part. [ClaireC] Yes. [AnnH] Actually, I get a big kick out of myself. [Bobby] I will say it's much easier when everything is not taken so seriously :-) [Nadine_AP] yes, i do [Martha] Yes! [MEntity] We only ask this question to help you in seeing if you prefer forgetting over remembering. You would not be in this workshop, studying our teaching, wishing for more people to accept you, trying to accept others, standing up against injustices, moved by suffering, aiming for higher visions, etc, if you did not like yourselves to some great extent. [MEntity] Everything beyond your liking yourself is a lie, is imprinting, is useless for anything more than information about how to make your next choices and decisions. [MEntity] The third suggestion of phrasing that we can offer, then, is that part of your remembering include that it is okay that others may also tend to forget. Just like you do. Even more so, that many have not even remembered, yet. They may not know, like you do. [MEntity] "The more often I remember, the more often others can know." [MEntity] This is because you are the trainer of your reality, which is just to say that you are the one who chooses how you experience EVERYTHING. There are no exceptions. You may not be able to choose everything that happens to you, but you will always have the choice in what that means for you, and how you experience it. [MEntity] The more often you forget, the more likely your world is experienced as forgetful. [MEntity] The more often you pretend to not like yourself, the more likely you would keep others from their opportunity to like you. [MEntity] The more often you presume that others must remember and know as you do, the more you are forgetting, and making excuses for your forgetting. [Maureen] Michael -- so Alex Jones and Larry Pratt have just forgotten who they are? How can we see them as "Essence"? [AnnH] hrh [AnnH] heh [Martha] hahaha [MEntity] Maureen: there must be a remembering and knowing before there can be a forgetting. [Maureen] so their forgetting is a choice to forget -- with Essence "on board" with Personality? [Maureen] just like it is for the "rest" of us? [MEntity] The inherent nature of fragmentation, personification, and the Physical Plane, in particular, is amnesia. Evolution is a process of remembering. Forgetfullness, in higher terms, is a defense against responsibility and ownership. [MEntity] Every lifetime is a practice in remembering. Every death is a practice in "checking in." [AnnH] I love that. [MEntity] Your notions that a "bad guy" is less Essence than that of a "good guy" is based on a romantic idea that Essence is already "good." It is not. It simply IS. It goes through its processes of growth just as an individual personality does. That is why we describe Soul Ages. [MEntity] Soul Age describes where one is in the capacity for remembering while in a body. [GeraldineB] And the circle is rejoined and completed [MEntity] It also describes where Essence is in its capacity to remember its path home. [GeraldineB] OH . . .please expand on that [MEntity] Or rather, that it never left home/Tao. [MEntity] Soul Age is a description of the process from fragmentation toward reunion. [MEntity] Keep in mind that horrific personalities and the choices they make are not much different to the body of an Essence than one's choice in diet while in a body. The soul is omnivorous. It can survive the most toxic of experiences. The personality is the feeder of Essence. [MEntity] Your choices, and interpretations of experience, feed Essence, feed you. In much the same way that your realizations of what you eat actually do matter to your body, so do the Personalities, eventually, with their ever-growing capacity for remembering, begin to choose more consciously as to what its diet of experience is. [MEntity] So it is fair and useful to "see" the Essence of even the most hurtful of people, because your remembering of their soul helps. Your condemnation is pointless. Remembering the Essence of any individual is not the same thing as conceding to their actions and impact. It simply gives you a broader footing for what choices you will make, yourself. [MEntity] All of what we shared today helps in your creation of your next moment. And as you can see from where you are in your life right now, those moments add up. They become your life. [Maureen] ...I can do that. Thanks for helping me remember more Micheal :) [Maureen] (my comment was related to seeing other people's Essences...) [MEntity] And your life is no different from your body. It is something that benefits from your compassion and embrace, not your comparisons for condemnations. Your experiences of your life are your own idea and feelings, given form (interpretation) across time, in memory, and in motivation. It is Good Work to see your Essence across all of this, to see you, in everything. [MEntity] Today, in this workshop, if you have been engaged, you have "checked in" with Essence. [MEntity] While we did not share the words in this exchange with you merely to elicited comforting feelings, we did share them with you so that you can remember that you CAN be comfortable in your skin, in your body, in your life, in Essence. When you just take a moment to remember. To check in. [MEntity] And you did not have to die, to do so. [Martha] whew [Diane_HB] Heheh [Nadine_AP2] hahaha [Nadine_AP2] yeah, good. [GeraldineB] Neither did Ann when she changed Soul Levels [AnnH] hahaha [AnnH] Not this time, anyway. [GeraldineB] Maybe that was the real purpose of doing it . . .to experience brith / death / brith while conscious [AnnH] yes, I think so [MEntity] We will conclude with one last consideration: [MEntity] Remembering others, even when they forget themselves, is healing, is helpful, is meaningful. It is not lost on them, even if you cannot see proof of that. [MEntity] This is why we "came back" to teach. [MEntity] Because we remembered you, too. [MEntity] Everyone will inherently, eventually, remember "everything," but it helps if there is someone who remembers what you forgot. [MEntity] Or what you do not even know, yet. [MEntity] Good day to each of you.
  20. Janet

    2nd Level Old

    This information was originally posted by Geraldine on July 4, 2014 as part of an internal monad report for one of her family members. MEntity: The current perspective of the Artisan is 2nd Level Old.... The 2nd Level of the Soul Age (or the 2nd Stage of the Essence Arc of Internal Monads) will have an emphasis on continuing to stretch the perspective beyond the comforts of what have been known as a Mature Soul, taking periods of time with interest in Old Soul concepts, then returning to familiar Mature Soul concepts, but always alternating between these as a means to evolve. The 2nd Stage/Level is one where sensitivity goes on the rise, feelings and ideas become quite personal, because as one begins to expand beyond everything that is presumed to be true, it can be disconcerting to have been invested in a way of seeing/experiencing things for so long, especially when that way eventually worked so well, and was "higher" than the previous Soul Age in perspective, and then to find there is yet another tier... it can be exhausting. In fact, the nature of the 2nd Level tends to be unseating (unsettling) your perspective every time you think you have things figured out. This is important at the 2nd Level of any Soul Age, or flexible room is not made for the new perspectives. Eventually, it is realized that your perspectives are not being replaced, but are being expanded upon. And that tends to come as a relief when that is realized.
  21. MICHAEL SPEAKS - June 14, 2009 - OPEN FLOOR [Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here now. [QUESTION] Michael. This may seem terribly "basic;" however, due to discussions amongst students, I've become confused about how the various Soul Age Levels apply to Essence's growth and development. When Essence first starts incarnating as an Infant soul, is it actually an Infant soul that then grows and develops as each level is achieved? In other words, do completing Internal Monads in positive pole, Soul Level, and Age, apply to Essence's development? Could you please clarify? [Michael Entity] We think we understand your question and will attempt to respond appropriately. What we would remind you of, first, is that what evolves is the ROLE in Essence. We realize that the terms "Essence" and "Role" are used interchangeably, and fairly so, but they are quite different in technical terms. Much like your Personality and Essence are truly "one," they are still not the same things, technically. For the sake of this response, we will use the terminology of Essence for the part of you that exists with or without a Role. We will use Role to refer to the specific medium through which Essence experiences itself in relation to other fragments sharing a similar agenda, and sharing an intent to be a part of the spiritual ecology of a particular system, such as Earth, all of its life forms, and more specifically, Human Sentience. The PERSONALITY experiences evolution within a single lifetime, from its Infancy to Death. Within that time frame, it goes through rites of passages relative to its physical and psychological age progression and our channels refer to those as Internal Monads. The ROLE also goes through stages that our channels refer to as Internal Monads, which is a different scale than that of the Personality. To help in clarifying this differentiation, we think it would be a good idea to refer to the Internal Monads of the Personality as "The Seven Rites of Passages" as a means to differentiate from the Seven Internal Monads of the Role. The Seven Rites of Passage are still, technically, Internal Monads, but specific to the Personality. Not all stages, or Rites of Passage during a life will be experienced or completed within a single lifetime because of physiological or psychological interruptions, limitations, and interferences. ROLE experiences evolution from its first physical lifetime through its last physical incarnation, even if by proxy (Transcendental or Infinite*). Role's evolution is measured by Internal Monads, as well, but these are relative to the progression through the Soul Levels that you find in the Soul Ages. The Role's evolution through each Level is dependent on each Personality's efforts to progress through its own Rites of Passages. The further a Personality can progress through its Rites of Passages in the positive poles, the further the Role is progressed through its own Internal Monads. The 7 Internal Monads for the Role are the 7 stages of EACH LEVEL of the Soul Ages. Since it can take several Personalities (incarnations) to finally get through the 7 Life Stages, both physiologically and psychologically, it goes that it also takes that many lifetimes for a Role to progress from one level to the next in a Soul Age. With this understanding, you could say that it takes 7 successful Rites of Passages to equate the 7 successful Internal Monads of the Role. The process for the 7 Rites of Passages takes place within the physiological and psychological boundaries of the Personality, whereas the 7 Internal Monads take place within the levels of Essence/Role and is built upon the processes of the Personality. [ADDITIONAL ELABORATION from TROY] There are a couple of ways this evolution happens: COMMON PROCESS (classic process) Let's use a 5th Level Old Sage who is just starting the 5th Level. 5th Level Personality # 1 : lives to 12 years old; finishes the 2nd Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 2 : lives to 25 years old; finishes the 3rd Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 3 : lives to 50 years old: finishes the 3rd Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 4 : lives to 52 years old; finishes 3rd Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 5 : lives to 60 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 6 : lives to 45 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 7 : lives to 55 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 8 : lives to 72 years old; finishes 5th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 9 : lives to 65 years old; finishes 5th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 10 lives to 25 years old; finishes 6th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 11 lives to 17 years old; finishes 7th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 7 Rites of Passages Completed; 7 Internal Monads Completed = 5th LEVEL Completed NEXT LIFETIME = 6th Level; and a completely new cycle through the 7 Rites of Passage/7 Internal Monads as a process toward the next soul level/age. Notice that a "short" lifetime can still quickly build upon the collection of past Rites of Passage as a means to "quickly" move into the later Passages. It is often the case that if only the 6th and 7th are remaining, a child will generate a terminal illness early in the life, speeding the process of awareness of mortality and impending death as a means to sum up the Rites of Passages, Internal Monads, and Level. RARE or NON-Classic Process: In some lifetimes, it is of interest to the Older Soul to transit a Level WITHIN the lifetime. This is rare, but not so rare for Older Souls. When this happens, the lifetime is quite literally "two lifetimes in one." There are a multitude of reasons for choosing this process, and here's how it works: Let's use a 5th Level Old Sage who decides to transit Soul Levels within a lifetime. Only the 6th and 7th Rites were not completed for the 5th Level, so rather than have a short life, or die when the 6th and 7th Rites are completed, the lifetime continues into a new cycle of Rites of Passages. When this happens, the Personality literally goes through a phase of deep awareness of its mortality and senses an impending "death." All Rites of Passages are physiological and psychological. We often think of these as relative to the physical age, but that just so happens to be a classic pattern. The actual Rites can happen at any physical age. It's the psychological levels that are the important dimensions. That's why someone can be stuck in the 3rd Rite of Passage, but be 80 years old. It's also why a 12 year old can be processing the 6th Rite of Passage. So when a person is transiting Soul Levels during a lifetime, it means they are also completing in the positive pole the 7th Rite of Passage. When that happens, the person undergoes a kind of psychological death (7th Rite), the Soul Level transit happens, and a psychological rebirth (1st Rite) happens, regardless of physical age. The following Rites of Passage will now add an interesting process to the lifetime as the person, regardless of physical age, now processes this rebirth, and then attempts the 2nd Rite of Mobility, the 3rd Rite of Independence, etc. as far as they can go with what years are left within the lifetime. Sometimes they only get through the first or second Rite, sometimes further. [END NOTE FROM TROY] [QUESTION] Does this mean that Essence can have multiple Roles incarnating -- what makes up Grand Cycles? [Michael Entity] With all of this being said, the ROLE starts as an "infant" because it is relative to its current cycle of exploration within a specific species, but the Spark who is Essence existed long before this current Role and species. There are other species and systems through which an Essence/Spark has already explored, from the initial choosing of a Role to its reunion with Tao. We refer to the entirety of this process as a Grand Cycle. Your Role does not change during one of these Grand Cycles, but once that Grand Cycle is completed, the Role is discarded, along with all of its dynamics, such as Frequency and Male/Female Energy Ratios, Essence Twins, Task Companions, Entities, Cadres, etc. and when a new Grand Cycle is chosen, all of those elements are chosen anew. [COMMENT] so, it's the Role that cycles off [Michael Entity] The Grand Cycle is to your Essence/Spark, what each Personality is to your Role. Most fragments within the Human Species have an average of 3 Grand Cycles. Most of our students, which is one Energy Ring, or 12 Cadres, share an average of 9 Grand Cycles. Essence does not evolve without the Role and the Role does not evolve without the Personality. Personality does not evolve without the 7 Rites of Passages. We realize we meandered through a response as a means to help provide context for our response. Did this answer you sufficiently for now? [COMMENT] Oh, indeed! Much more than I expected . . .everything clicked into place; thank you! [COMMENT] for me too!:) [COMMENT] Same here [COMMENT] wow; this is amazing good stuff - thank you [Michael Entity] In conclusion, the Essence/Spark DOES evolve, but it is on a different scale of measurement. There is a time when the Essence/Spark is an "infant," so to speak, but it inherently retains all of the qualities of Tao. The Essence/Spark's scale of evolution is of such a scale that the results would be difficult to comprehend. From what we understand, each Essence/Spark eventually runs its own universe, eventually fragmenting itself and continuing the spectacular creativity that is Tao, becoming its own "god," if you will. But this is not something one need concern oneself with as you consider how to pay your bills and get along with your loved ones. The number of Grand Cycles does have some effect on the way a Role will show up, even in its first Infant lifetime. Those with higher Grand Cycles can tend to seem much wiser than those with fewer Grand Cycles, which is why Entities and Cadres who share an average of Grand Cycles tend to incarnate quite tightly at first so that no one "sticks out." As the Role evolves, the Entities and Cadres "spread out" and are more capable of blending in with other fragments who may have more or less Grand Cycles. [COMMENT] Sometimes, I think we incarnate to escape the complexities of it all...we come here to stop and smell the roses so to speak [Michael Entity] We would agree, especially for those lifetimes having a Goal of Flow or Re-evaluation. Next question. [QUESTION] Back to basics 101 - I need a refresher on how to break the hold of the negative pole of Flow - Stagnation/Inertia. Would Michael offer some practical suggestions on dealing with this problem when it is hard just to do/start anything? I hope this is general enough - dealing with the negative pole of Flow. ( And yes, I see NCF playing a role in this as well, :) ) I think I'm stuck smelling the roses in only one place, hehehe [Michael Entity] One of the most effective ways of breaking Inertia is to surrender to it. This may seem counter to the intent, but one of the things that keeps a person locked in Inertia is the sense of "running in place," or "doing a lot of nothing." When one can surrender to the gravity that seems to keep one in place, the footing can be regained, or the sense of productivity and fulfillment can be regained. The point of having a Goal of Flow is to learn how to navigate within the currents that are natural to the life, and often those currents swirl, so to speak, or slow, or eddy. [COMMENT] . . . or get stuck on the rocks, hehe [Michael Entity] One of the greatest challenges for those in Flow is to overcome the pressure to show evidence and justification for their presence. [COMMENT] and NCF gets you on that part, for sure [COMMENT] oh boy do I get that... [COMMENT] me too [COMMENT] same here [COMMENT] It certainly affected me and I'm not in Flow [COMMENT] definitely me too [Michael Entity] When a fragment chooses Flow as a Goal, it is because there is an interest in the nuances and subtleties of existence and this increases the sensitivity of the Personality. [COMMENT] a big Ah [COMMENT] I second that! [COMMENT] So, smell that rose until it blackens, shrivels, and dries :) [COMMENT] .... and then make potpourri! [COMMENT] hehehe [COMMENT] yes! [COMMENT] lol [Michael Entity] This sensitivity is heightened so as to develop an intuitive grasp of the life and its natural flow, much like one might have when navigating a boat, skateboard, or other vehicle of momentum that pulls all of the senses together to calculate navigation without having to over analyze. [COMMENT] I understand this completely [COMMENT] hmm, maybe why this is why I think well while driving, lol; driving alone that is [COMMENT] I absolutely understand the idea of subtle navigation [Michael Entity] However, this sensitivity then leads to an awareness of all of the subtleties of one's "insides," so to speak, so all of the areas within oneself that are not flowing freely are felt, too. [COMMENT] perhaps that is part of the problem - a feeling that the natural flow is being blocked and feeling uncomfortable with that and wanting to 'flow' again - and not quite seeing how to get back there. [Michael Entity] Often, the Personality will turn to external environments for the solution to the lack of freedom within. [COMMENT] hence the inertia... [Michael Entity] Flowing externally and can help the flow, internally, but often it can take internal adjustments, as well. [COMMENT] ok [COMMENT] empty the well - so; it can be refilled [Michael Entity] Both the internal and external are connected, and one can help the other, but when one is neglected over the other, it can cause the sense of inertia, no matter how productive and free the life can seem in one area over the other. One of the most effective ways we've seen our students understand the concept of FLOW is to set alongside it the concept of PERMISSION. [COMMENT] ah to allow the flow...... [Michael Entity] When one feels the life is not flowing, internally or externally, it can help to ask where one has limited his or her sense of Permission. And often that permission is the barrier to the very simple and freeing experience of Relaxation. To relax. To embrace. To allow. To Be. Without apology or proof. [COMMENT] oh geeze, yes [COMMENT] thank you! [Michael Entity] We have more to say about this, especially in terms of how the negative pole can be shifted by using the positive pole of the other Goals, but we will elaborate on that in other sessions. Next Question [COMMENT] thank you very much, Michael [COMMENT] that was excellent; thank you :) [COMMENT] it was very freeing for me [COMMENT] quite excellent! :) [COMMENT] :heart: it [COMMENT] Today is a joy! [QUESTION] Hello Michael, my question has to do with choosing overleaves. In reviewing [between lives] does the fragment look over the whole series of incarnations to decide, or find a particular lifetime where something got missed... could you give me an example of how I chose this life's overleaves? [Michael Entity] There are basically three ways a fragment will choose its Overleaves: Randomly, Out of Curiosity, and Through Calculation. Earliest Personalities of the Infant Soul are a product of Randomness, with "random" simply meaning that no intent or calculation was involved in the choice, though choice was still involved. Late Baby through Early Mature bring Personalities that are products of Curiosity, meaning that there is more involved in the choice of Overleaves, but often with an "I wonder what would happen if..." kind of perspective. Mid Mature through Late Old can bring the most calculated Personalities, as the intent for final comprehension, integration, and commitment to the path for that fragment ensues. 7th Level Old is a free-for-all, which is why many who are truly 7th Level Old do not appear to be Old at all, since the Personalities are not of those you would presume to be so wise. But that is a perk of "getting older," in that one is no longer constrained by fears, obligations, ties, etc. and one can finally play with lifetimes in a way that are thoroughly understood as safe. [COMMENT] the perks of Old Age.....:) [Michael Entity] Some of the oldest souls on your planet are simply annoying and bring nothing of obvious value to society or to their social circles. Some of the "wisest," most spiritual and grounded of souls on your planet are far younger in soul age than one might presume, but many of these guru-like fragments are caught in the maya of what "wise" should look like, and play the role quite well. [COMMENT] I have always felt I planned all this since I was a kid [Michael Entity] The mapping of a lifetime, and the adherence to that map, vary from fragment to fragment, Personality to Personality. It would be accurate to say that you are of the more calculated choice in Overleaves and that your Personality found the mapping of your life to be of value, and adheres to that map within reason. Next question [QUESTION] abandonment - we all do this a lot , we come together, we go apart , that is life, as we know it... so, what can you tell me, that would help all of us, with this type of issue involved with our passages through our lives -- i am sure, it is a theme for many -- how deeply rooted is ABANDONMENT/does it have 7 levels; and; how do each of the 7 chief dragons affect it, like impatience, arrogance, self dep; self destruction, etc [Michael Entity] True Abandonment is of such popularity for exploration by souls that it is within the 30 "Classic" (external) Monads: the Abandoned and the Abandoner. It is quite popular for the same reasons that the other relationships are popular: it is an accelerated experience that holds great potential for learning about oneself. True Abandonment is an experience that eventually leads to a discovery of self-value and empowerment that, when discovered, is unprecedented. True Abandonment is antithesis to the truth of your resonance with others, and to experience it pushes one to question the value of oneself in ways that few other experiences push one to question in that way. The process of being abandoned, and the process of questioning, can be extremely painful until the lies are worked through and the truth is finally comprehended: that the value of self is never dependent upon the relative position one is within a relationship; and that the experience of abandonment is, ironically, due to the overblown value one has placed upon another fragment over self. [COMMENT] BINGO! [COMMENT] wow [COMMENT] (no wonder why sometimes, it is so easy to just detach) [COMMENT] what will the wind blow in next LOL sort of the like the ocean tide that deposits its treasures [COMMENT] I learned a lot of that in this go-round with my Father was a double-edged sword understanding intellectually why but an emotional hile [Michael Entity] There are 7 Circles of Abandonment that one can initiate or experience: Survival Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that is necessary for the survival of another, such as a mother abandoning a baby in a ditch. Sexual Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that nurtures another in an intimate way, either literally sexually, or simply as embracing the Other as Oneself. Physical Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that was necessary for the mobility and productivity of another fragment. Emotional Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position that embraces another fragment with room to Be without explanation or apology. Intellectual Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position of communication and exchange with another. Intuitive Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position of encouragement for upholding the fulfillment of visions, dreams, and wishes. Spiritual Abandonment: which is the abandonment of a position of guidance and clarity for the bigger picture and pattern of the life. [COMMENT] wow-this is very deep stuff--you are writing a book of great value troy/michael-as, you do this [COMMENT] that alone gives me mucho food for ponderings [Michael Entity] In instances of True Abandonment, Karma is often created. When we say True Abandonment, we mean that one has instilled oneself as a provider for a particular context, and then bails on the responsibilities of that position upon which another became dependent. When one experiences True Abandonment, the effects are valid and we do not mean to suggest that they are not, though we do suggest that most of the contexts can be overcome as the individual fragment finds his or her own sense of value. In the first context of Survival, the exploration of value is dependent upon Essence, not the Personality. The Essence will either let the life go as a means to start again in another life, or find a way to get help to the Personality that has been abandoned, if the Personality is receptive to that help. [COMMENT] And all the 7 seems to relate somehow with the 7 chakras and centers too [Michael Entity] Yes, there is a relevant parallel to the Chakras. [COMMENT] (you can NOT make someone else into something of value-they must learn to do that for themselves-otherwise, they do NOT appreciate it , as, they would, if they earned the rite of passage for themselves) [QUESTION] Every Personality can experience many abandonments which are only experience -- not Monadal levels of True Abandonment? [Michael Entity] The Monadal process of Abandoned/Abandoner would focus on a single Circle, or context, emphasizing, for instance, Sexual Abandonment or Intuitive Abandonment. The Monad of Abandoned/Abandoner can be played out multiple times across different relationships for emphasis on the different Circles, or contexts. We would also wish to clarify that we use the term True Abandonment to refer to the legitimate relinquishing of responsibilities for a position that was originally, mutually agreed upon. This is to differentiate from the INTERPRETATION of Abandonment that is merely a reaction to the disappointment that someone did not fulfill your expectations. Most instances of True Abandonment are thoroughly explored by mid to late Mature. Most instances of abandonment after that are those of interpretation and directly related to self-karmic issues (personal, internal divisions within) that one is working on resolving. Last question. [QUESTION] An Infant soul has certain characteristics. Are these Infant Soul characteristics similar to what is experienced at each level. So that a person at a level one Old soul age, will be orienting to this new Age with some of the perspective of an Infant but specifically to the Old Soul experience. [Michael Entity] That is a valid observation. It could be said that the First Level of any Soul Age is the "infant" level of that soul age, and so on. The 6th and 7th Levels of a Soul Age would resonate to the Transcendental and Infinite Soul Ages, wherein the 6th Level is a process of opening to the collective experiences of your Essence for guidance through the life, and the 7th Level is a process of openness to one's Entity for guidance for the life. While this is not a strict correlation, it is one that can help lend understanding to each Level. We will conclude here. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
  22. DanielaS

    Michael Speaks: March 2004

    March 04, 2004 Troy Tolley, Channel Energy Report and Open Floor [Michael_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. We will begin tonight with a brief look at how the energy appears to be moving in terms of consciousness and your shared outer world. Approximately the first three months of a given year are generally about the implementation of that year's energy as described in terms of ROLE, GOAL, and CENTER. The Role energy and Center energy will be a context for the entire year, with each additional level of energy (in terms of Goal, Mode, Attitude, Chief Feature) becoming more directly implemented, or emphasized, during progressive portions of the year. These first few months have emphasized the Goal of Re-Evaluation. We have seen a great deal of regressive focus in your world as the varying Soul Age perceptions “take stock” in what is important to each. When a planet or large population makes a major shift in Soul Age, that period of time becomes wrought with the proclamations of each Soul Age. The most secure and confident Soul Ages are currently the Baby and Young, with very strong “voices” being impressed and expressed in and through the media. These Soul Ages are inherently “against” the encompassing of anything labeled as “other”. One of the final steps in progression toward the next Soul Age (from Baby to Young, and from Young to Mature) is through surrender to the reality of “other”. We state this because there are many Baby and Young Souls, near the end of their own Soul Age, who exhibit what appear to be quite progressive perceptions. This progressive level of acceptance is because final or late-level Baby and Young Souls are focused on the understanding and acceptance of anything that has ever been labeled “other” during the first 5 or 6 Levels of that Soul Age. While many Baby and Young Souls are clamoring for resistance to acceptance of the planetary shift, you may find pockets of Final- and Late-Level Baby and Young Souls standing in defense of the progress toward maturity on your planet. The stances of these Baby and Young Souls is important as there are very few “loud” Mature Souls at this time taking strong stances for anything in particular, though they will gladly contribute themselves as support. The majority of the population on the planet is Mature Soul, but these are very early-level Mature Souls with deeply sensitive, sometimes fragile, perceptions. Many of these Mature Souls are easily overwhelmed by the division and chaos that seems to be conveyed through the media, especially in terms of politics and equal rights. The irony of the source of strength behind your continued shift into a Mature Soul world is in the works and stances of these Late-level Young and Baby Souls. Many final- or late-level Baby and Young Souls have surrendered to the ‘new Mature Soul world’ of compassion, acceptance, consideration, and Rights. Their Essences are keenly aware that the choices made from their current lifetime will impact the reality of their future lifetimes and Soul Ages. We explain all of this for a reason: Over the course of this year you may find yourself in very awkward perceptual positions that you have never experienced, or have not experienced in quite some time. More often than usual, you may find yourself in quite shocking and disorienting contexts where the majority opinion around you is absolutely counter to your own perceptions. We see this as being particularly strong over the next few months, and for many of our students, this appears to be a serious surprise over the next month of March. We explain all of this to you as a means to help you understand and adapt to the “unrest” that may appear to be around you and against you. Issues of “morality and religion” are the tools of the Young and Baby, while “Rights” are the tools of the Mature Soul. The Young Souls are not particularly ruled by these issues of morality and religion, but they do know that to keep these values implemented keeps people in a more controlled position, thus allowing for better opportunities for the Young Souls. Over the year we see approximately 5 fragments in the final levels of the Young or Baby Soul Ages becoming strong, pivotal, public forces toward helping support changes in favor of the Mature Soul world. One fragment in particular appears to be known as Donald Trump. You may be surprised as to who “comes out” in support of controversial Rights. On a more personal level you may experience this energy as creating restlessness in you, an agitation, a compulsion to withdraw, or you may find that it encourages you to take a look at your own convictions, principles, and perceptions, moving you into a clearer, more conscious definition of where you stand in the world. In other words: there appears to be a pressure to take part IN the world more than usual, regardless of how you react/respond to that. This pressure may seem ironic in a year of Re-evaluation, but do not forget that Re-evaluation is on the same Axis as the Goal of Growth, sharing an Inspirational Axis. Re-evaluation does not inherently mean resigning from the world, even if you move into the negative pole of Withdrawal; Re-evaluation is about Simplifying. All issues in your own life or in your shared world are being simplified down to only a very few basic issues; the KEY issues. Regardless as to whether these issues are in your personal life or in your shared world, these issues will more than likely relate to RIGHTS. The public, shared world will be obvious as Gay Rights, Animal Rights, and general Human Rights continue to dominate the issues, but in your personal life, you may also be simplifying your own sense of Rights, i.e. your Right to be Loved, or to Love, to Have, to Know, etc. Some of you may feel a strong conviction that you have put off or dismissed some part of your life that you finally admit you have a RIGHT TO EXPERIENCE. The energy is now here all around you and among your support groups of entity and cadre mates, to finally allow/create some of those experiences. We can safely say then that a key phrase over the next month might be: I CAN. We would suggest making an effort to consciously simplify your options and actions and thoughts and feelings about any area of Rights you have felt strongly about changing. To do this, we can suggest 3 things for helping you move into a positive state of Re-evaluation: Decording: imagine releasing all energetic bonds extending to and from your body. You can do so by imagining “washing” these cords from your body, allowing them to drop or “pulled off” gently. Remember to pay close attention to any cords stemming from your back. Although energetic bonding is not as literal as your visualization needs to be, the symbolic visuals are valid. Cords extending from the “front” of your body are those in which you feel energized, lifted, and are there by permission. Cords extending from the “back” of your body are those from which you feel drained, depressed, and are not there by conscious permission. After decording your body in your imagination, imagine draping your body in a gold mesh of light, feeling a deeply peaceful release of all demands against your energy. This imaginary gold mesh of light is simply a way of consciously directing your energy to remain “clean”, deflecting the unwanted cords while encouraging the return of those deemed inspiring. Walking: simply taking a long walk in the open air with no intentions but to experience the walk can greatly clarify your sense of self as Soul and Personality, allowing you to be a better provider for you and your life. Singing or lip-synching: this may seem “silly”, but the act of unbridled expression can bring with it a great amount of clarity. Over the next month, if any or all three of these things were to be implemented once or twice, you may find you have a stronger sense of your next steps within this year. Some of you may already meditate, sing, and walk regularly, so if you feel these are too familiar, we simply suggest that you heighten your awareness in your next experience of these routines. Your benefit will not be compromised. We will stop here for questions about the ENERGY REPORT. We are not opening the floor to general questions, yet. QUESTIONS ABOUT REPORT [kittlekats41] you mentioned that the majority of the population is at the early mature level in the world – what is it in the United States at this time – also early mature? [Michael_Entity] Yes, the United States’ average Soul Age is around 3rd Level Mature, as is your planet and universe. This average does not mean you will feel it or see it as much as you will see and feel the remaining impact from the previous Soul Age average, of course. [Rivrbird] Michael, would you give an example of an area where majority opinion will seem exactly counter to our own perceptions in such a way that we would be shocked or disoriented? [Michael_Entity] We know of at least two fragments in this “room” who are surrounded by charismatic, social, affectionate, and warm Personalities. Upon prompting, these very same warm fragments express strong opinions and hostile stances against the Rights of anyone beyond Christianity or Heterosexuality. That captures the most common means of these surprising differences to be displayed. Many Old and Mature Souls will find that the very people with whom they have bonded or gained warm acquaintances have quite startlingly opposing viewpoints that are now being encouraged by media and political hype. [Anla899] What is the best way to respond to these opposing viewpoints when demonstrated by these acquaintances? [Michael_Entity] Of course, the “best way” is the way you feel compelled, as this would honor your ability to choose. There is no real “best way”, though there are methods that are more conducive to certain results than others. Our suggestions would rely on your sense of what you would wish to accomplish with your response. If your intent is for as peaceful a response as possible, we have seen that a lack of engagement in a debate is the most efficient route. In most instances, we have not seen much progress in a debate between a zealous Baby Soul and an emotional Mature or logical Old Soul. This is not said to discourage those debates, as your engagement in such activities or not, is your choice. If your intent is to maintain your sense of integrity and right to expression in the midst of these intimidating stances, we would suggest simply stating that you do not agree and proceed with any discussion within your level of ability and comfort, excusing yourself calmly when you feel you may lose your emotional or logical “footing”. [Rivrbird] Baby and young souls use religion, mature souls use “rights”, do old souls have a particular “tool” that we use? [Michael_Entity] Most Old Souls will default to the tools of Soul Age in which they most relate, and in most cases this would be the Mature Soul. Therefore, you may find a great many Old Souls coming out of their comfort zones of acceptance and surrender, back into the actions that encourage Rights. Behind the use of that, we would say that the tool of the Old Soul then would be Wisdom or Logic. [Heidi Hessler] Could Michael expand a bit on how the Great Pyramid operated as a practical means for transportation? …Sorry this question is off the subject. [Michael_Entity] We have a great deal to say about the “Great Pyramid” and various other structures of similar mystery, but we will limit our response to your question. We would not say that this structure was practical by any means, and we would not accurately describe it as a form of transportation. We would more accurately state that it was used for Teleportation. This feat was accomplished by harnessing the energy of Earthquakes. Its abilities extend beyond Teleportation within Space, but within Time, as well. It will be used “again”. We will open the floor for one or two more questions, if there are any, and then conclude the evening with you. [kittlekats41] I was hoping you might be able to give those of us who are fine-tuning our own channeling abilities some useful advice about perfecting our ‘focus’, or at least improving . . .:-) [Michael_Entity] Each of you has Overleaves that are more conducive to one of the three stages of channeling: Reception, Interpretation, and Transmission. Depending on the design of your Personality, you may be more inclined in strength in one of these areas. “Reception” is the actual ability to connect with, or sense, the energy in which you wish to experience. “Interpretation” is the actual ability to take patterns of Reception and make sense of those patterns within a language you understand, whether emotional, intellectual, or bodily. “Transmission” is the actual ability to convey patterns through you to another individual or group in meaningful ways. To excel in just one of these areas is not a limitation. For instance, Transmission might seem useless if you do not “know how” to Receive or Interpret, but this is not necessarily the case as many Healers, particularly in the context of Reiki, can attest. Their intent is to Transmit, not necessarily understand or “get” what is happening. Without an in-depth class to explain the dynamics of our comments, we can suggest that you sense the area in which you feel you are strongest and weakest (less-inclined). In the area in which you are strongest, simply practice as usual. In the area in which you are less-inclined, we can suggest a few simple tools to help gently strengthen these areas: Reception: Dutifully, willingly, and daily, keep a Dream Journal. Even if you do not remember your dream, write that you do not remember your dream. Experiment with this journaling by writing questions to your Essence, and assume your dreams will respond. Interpretation: study an intuitive tool such as the Tarot. Learn how to see and interpret patterns in the layouts. Create symbolic meanings of certain events and patterns around you and observe “signs” around you using synchronicity. Transmission: Sit still and silent without falling asleep. Practice suddenly relaxing your body at various points in the day. Incorporate psychic hygiene into your daily or weekly routines, allowing your showers/baths to also “brighten” your aura and release any old energy patterns you may sense. These are quick, simple suggestions, but they will do for your continued explorations. We will conclude here. Good night to all of you.
  23. February 3, 2000 Troy Tolley, Channel Conscious Connection to Essence [Otterly = Troy] Note: This series begins with Michael Speaks: Conscious Connection to Essence (1 of 3) and concludes with Michael Speaks: Conscious Connection to Essence (3 of 3). [Michael_Entity] We are here. One moment. Welcome to you all. We will begin. What we will do tonight, in light of the topic, is take your questions. We believe an open dialogue may find some insights being gained through exchange. We are preparing a larger work of channeling with Otterly that you will see in the next few days. This piece is being asked of us as a means to understand the different “paths” that might be relevant for each Role. This is too large of a topic to cover in a time-limited chat, but we can respond, nonetheless. Absorption of the material will be more comprehensive, as well, as you read it at your leisure. With that, we will begin taking your questions. For now, we will take questions on the topic of gaining a heightened sense of connection to Essence. If there are no questions, we have a not so easily fatigued Sage working with us and can find as much to give him to say as he can himself. We will give you a moment to decide. [ksh] What influences the motion of dowsing with a pendulum? Is it cycled off members of your entity trying to communicate with you? [Michael_Entity] If you choose for it to be. The mechanical aspects of this, along with the biological aspects of this, are simple and random. Anything chosen as a symbol for communication with Essence (or other Essences) can be utilized. Messages can be found in the layering of cheese on a pizza, if that is a medium you relate to. This is a valid means for seeking communication with Essence, choosing your symbols; choosing what makes sense to you as a Personality. In choosing this, you will pass through an initial phase of randomness until you synchronize with what you are using as your symbols. Your pendulum swings may be the meaningless rhythms of your latest nervous state at first, but later, even if in the same state, your “meaningless rhythms” can then become decipherable, even if only by you. This may or may not be with the help or influence of discarnate fragments. In keeping with the topic we will ask, if each of you were to choose a symbol, a means for messages to be relayed from Essence, what resonates with you? [TCB] I was wondering about the average soul ages of the Oracles at Delphi? Also, how those ‘experiences’ might be brought to bear now upon the various *participants*, at the current soul ages? [Michael_Entity] Most of you have been within one level of your current Soul Age since the last manifestation of the Infinite Soul. For the thousand years approximately before the manifestation, those of you present here, moved only one or two soul levels. Many of you have been incarnating for nearly 6 million years. This gives you a larger scope of the process of living lives and transiting Soul Levels. Though some of you feel a sense of urgency or weariness at the game, Essence enjoys nearly it all. It strolls through your incarnations ecstatic, in most cases. As far as the experiences from past lives, the lifetime that will affect you or is relevant, affects you with or without conscious awareness. Many of the experiences “gained” in the lives at Delphi are complete experiences and have no bearing in your present. What the Essence gains, is not necessarily what a current Personality can utilize or make sense of. Though many of you completed lives in Greece during this great influential time, there are but a few who still remain linked to that time in terms of influences now. We are speaking in terms of your “list” and its members. Next question. [Arinna] When I am channeling my higher self (essence) how can I get my personality’s consciousness out of the way as much as possible? Also, when I feel that shift in energy within myself – is that my essence causing that? [Michael_Entity] In answer to your first question: you will never be able to “get your personality's consciousness out of the way”. Your consciousness IS your Essence connection. The key is in learning to trust your Personality and work with its thoughts, feelings, and motion. When settling in to “channel” your Essence, you are merely deciding to gather a larger perception. When connected to Essence consciously, it is not necessarily a revelation or a significant shift or breakthrough. The state is so natural some dismiss what has occurred. There will be a shift in energy, and this will be as significant as you require as a mark for your connection. This is your body/Personality's design, not Essence's. The “shift” you speak of is a harmonious, clear mark for you and it works. Many choose this method. There is as much Essence involved in a fist fight as there is in a charismatic guru, when consciousness and choice are aligned. When sitting next in your session to connect more consciously to Essence, simply want to, and it will be. Within that moment, all any of you have to do to remain connected consciously, is to choose consciously. We will define “consciously” here as “with awareness”, but there are other ways to define. When every decision you make as Personality is done with consciousness, Essence is present. When you find yourself happy, Essence is present. Whether you are indulging in eating a bucket of ice cream, doing horrific acts of violence, or singly sweetly with a friend… if chosen consciously and with intent, Essence is present. The mark for rejection of Essence, or blocking of Essence can be seen in any sense of contraction in your life, or area of your life. We realize we have moved into a tangent, but we feel it is relevant. Essence can be present, for instance, in your art or creativity alone, but is rejected or blocked in a relationship to a spouse. Essence “backs off” from areas of your life where the Personality has chosen to do things its own way. We will ask here, before continuing with questions, if we have answered Arinna's question to a degree acceptable. [Lights_Edge] What are some examples of common old soul beliefs and emotions that limit our conscious connection to essence? [TCB] Please excuse me…but just to clarify something, when you said two ‘soul levels’, did you mean “soul ages?” Or soul levels? (within the 7 Stages?) [Michael_Entity] We will answer Terrence first, but are aware of Terri's question. We will answer that following. Common Old Soul beliefs are: that you all already “know it all”, especially relative to the “poor little young souls”. That you deserve a financially abundant life free from effort; that your peers (other Older Souls) are weird (even as you appear weird to them); that you are from another planet. (We speak of this last one relative to its preoccupation.) Others are, that you are alone; that you do not fit in; that you must suffer; that if you can just ride out this life, it will all be over; that you are “tired”; that you are done. These are just a few. We realize each of you will have your versions of these and others, as well. When these beliefs (or ones you identify) can become acknowledged, we suggest the fastest way to reconnect to Essence would be through laughter, pleasure, or through tears. These three biological functions are directly related to contact with Essence, and in most instances, a “pure connection”. We mean “pure” in the sense that it is quite difficult to be self-judging in the moment of actual true tears, true laughter or true pleasure. As we have said in many instances with your little group, tears are the biological reaction to Truth. We now add that Laughter is the biological reaction to Oneness (Energy/Beauty), and Pleasure is the biological reaction to Love. We will answer Terri's question now. We referred to the 7 stages when we said each of you has transited approximately one or two soul levels from the one you are in presently. [MaryBV] Getting in touch with essence seems like such a BIG question. I am wondering if as younger souls we incur karma and work on monads and the like to throw up roadblocks for us to pull down as we get older. In other words, as we move away the debris of our younger days, are we in fact starting the lesson of the older levels which is to re-remember our essence? And in answer to the question about resonance I believe I resonate with my essence through music. [Michael_Entity] You are correct in many ways, Mary. “Re-remembering” is a valid term in this instance. The Old Soul phase can be said to be the age of comprehending all consequences. Studying your Role will give you more and more insights into your “essence”. No other aspect in your dynamics can clarify that remembering as much as your Role. Many of you have become very adaptable over the eons. This means you are less inclined to manifest your Essences as you see fit. Instead, you rely on this single Personality that “you” are to comprehend all that has come to pass as a Soul. The key is in freeing the personality from this distraction. This is why we feel past lives, though valid, more often lay a burden on many of you in ways that are difficult to comprehend or validate. There are some functions that are of Essence, and some that are of Personality's. Differentiating these functions can lend more freedom to both. Personality wants to live. It is alive NOW in the most important sense it will ever know. By treating yourselves (Personality) as something to be overcome, set aside, tamed, or controlled, you are missing the point. You are Essence's eyes, hands, feet, heart… everything you delight in, so does Essence. For each Essence there are simple ways to take delight in a life. In that delight, there are ways to build more conscious connections. Building on delight brings the laughter and tears and pleasure. As we have said before, Happiness is a navigational tool for the body while on the physical plane. We will point out that happiness does not mean you are merely smiling and content. Even in the worst of situations, they can technically be contextually happy since there are aspects of you that “understand”. To help in re-remembering your Essence, we think these few keywords may be of some assistance in navigating toward delight: For the Expressive Roles, Sages and Artisans take delight in playing, goofing off. For the Inspirational Roles, Priests and Servers take delight in helping, guiding, caring for, discussing. For the Action Roles, Kings and Warriors take delight in challenges, commitment, and sexuality. For the Assimilative Role, the Scholar delights in knowing, understanding, and learning. They can also refer to Casting. Although these delights are not exclusive nor complete, they are helpful in reminding you of what Essence delights in, and this can be compared to when you, as Personality, may be filtering or dismissing that delight. [nemo999] Regarding symbols, does essence have a natural language instead of words, I am thinking of thoughts, feelings, pictures instead of English or Chinese for example? [Michael_Entity] The Language of Essence is transparent, so to speak. It is relative to the listener. Essence cannot communicate any other way. On the Astral, it is understood that you will never “see” the true Essence you are communicating to, unless you resonate. Otherwise, every Essence sees its version of other Essences that makes the most sense of the energy that is “other”. Therefore, while physical, Essence will appear, communicate, behave, in whatever fashion the personality imposes or chooses. This is why we suggest being conscious of what you feel is symbolic of Essence. This will heighten your conscious connection. The idea of Power Animals is a valid means to achieve this. Choosing a number that then shows up occasionally on clocks, receipts, etc. This is a valid reminder and connection to Essence. There are a multitude of ways and you may create many paths for these. And then there will finally be the symbolic realization that you can simply BE your Essence, meaning, after you have begun building a foundation of trust and validity as to what your Essence is, you may then simply ACT as Essence. [TCB] Clarification Question: You said that the lives in Delphi are ‘complete experiences’. I understand this, yes. But I would like clarification on why you said that they ‘have no bearing’ on this life, in terms of essence. It seems to me that all completed essence experiences would be available to be ‘drawn from’ in the current life, if one chooses to make such ‘contact’ with that ‘past experience’ and learning gained. Just wanted to get some clarification. [Michael_Entity] We never said that the experience had no bearing on Essence, only on the present lifetime, referring to the Personality. You are correct that all gained experiences as Essence are accessible to any lifetime. If one were to choose to connect to that lifetime, it is the fragment's choice. In lifetimes where an experience is completed, it is rare that Personality can gain from drawing on it in the present, if the lifetime currently has no way to utilize the experiences. If the lifetime currently has a practical way to utilize a past life, it will be connected to it regardless anyway. We were answering your question in the form you asked it originally. And as far as the members of your group in the list go, only a few have incomplete experiences from those lives in Delphi. This means for most, there is little to be “brought to bear” from that time. We are gathering that you have some possible inclinations as to what the experiences were focused on in those lives. It may surprise you that they were far less spiritual than you might have guessed. Most from the list were not so metaphysically inclined, but were taking lives of Flow and Re-evaluation during a time when things were relatively secure. Creativity, sexual indulgence, spiritual perusal, were all able to be lavished into the heart's content of THAT Personality. Your Personality presently might find the means of the previous Personality's exploration to be rather repugnant. [TCB] Can't remembering such past lives serve to balance certain aspects of the current life experience, or ‘personality’, if so chosen? [Michael_Entity] This does not mean they cannot access or draw from those lives, if they choose. We only say that the context is entirely different in this time frame. We feel exploring past lives that have no relevance can be most useful if seen in terms of a soul's scrapbook. Otherwise, it is nearly the same as saying that what your Mother learned, so have you by default, or what your Sister learned, you can use as a skill. “YOU” are a completely different design than another life and it is distressing to the present you when compared or when seeking to draw skills that are “not yours”. This can be likened to a parent telling a child that they could be “more like your brother”. Understanding lives that are relevant, ones that will impact you with or without conscious exploration, this is where the breakthroughs are, where the talents and insights and motivations can be gained, and this happens without need for consciousness. But, as always, you may choose your explorations any way you feel inclined. We will conclude then. There will always be more to gain from exchanging on all of these topics. Goodnight.
  24. 12:31 PM 7/22/2012 MICHAEL SPEAKS Consumerism vs Citizenry Channel: Troy Tolley [MEntity] Hello to each of you. We are here, now. Barely, but here. We will continue to move more into focus as we deliver on the topic of choice. [MEntity] We understand the topic of interest to be that of the shift between what might be referred to as a paradigm of Consumerism to a paradigm of Citizenship, or Citizenry. [MEntity] This is, basically, the shift between a Young Soul Paradigm and a Mature Soul Paradigm, except in specific terms of how one's interactions in the world contribute to that paradigm, and not just how one experiences it. [MEntity] The levels of paradigm we describe by Consumerism vs Citizenry are levels most applicable to the environment of economy and resources. [MEntity] While any group is sharing a paradigm of Consumerism, the aim is primarily toward COLLECTING. [MEntity] While any group is sharing a paradigm of Citizenry, the aim is primarily toward CONTRIBUTION. [MEntity] A paradigm, here, is the larger context in which everyone is expected to participate, and is taught as being a meaningful or appealing value, both in the positive and negative poles of that paradigm. CONSUMERISM AND COLLECTING [MEntity] In the paradigm of Consumerism with its aim for Collecting, this value is regarded as meaningful and appealing, when the Collecting is done through hard work, exploitation, entitlement, investment. [MEntity] Any way to Collect. To take one's part. [MEntity] This paradigm is not good or bad, but simply another way of sharing the experiences of the world. [MEntity] However, when there is a paradigm for Collecting, the dynamic inherently implies a constant imbalance as each tries to take as much as possible. [MEntity] This paradigm, then, inherently brings with it poverty, extremes of Class, Racism, Slavery, Theft, and even violence, as the means for Collecting. [MEntity] This paradigm supports the entire spectrum between earning and taking, as long as there is an aim for Collecting. [MEntity] We will define "Collecting" here as an aim geared toward personal gain, meaning, motivation, fulfillment, satisfaction, craving, longing. [MEntity] Everything that is shared in terms of an economy and resource is subject to this spectrum. [MEntity] Those who do not wish to participate in that paradigm will be pushed to the edges of it, so to speak, and will "play by their own rules," but as quietly as possible so as not to bring attention to the breaking of rules set for that paradigm. [MEntity] As Consumerism is quite in line with the Young Soul, the Young Soul does quite well within this paradigm, and enjoys the spectrum in many ways. It is exciting, competitive, and, forgiving the pun, consuming. [MEntity] Regardless of Soul Age, a paradigm will be an insidious part of any fragment's life. [MEntity] Regardless of how conscious a Personality is, and how Manifested the True Personality and Essence, there will, inherently, be some level of the self that willingly or unwittingly "plays the game." [MEntity] Essence and Personality are not victims of a paradigm, but simply agree that if being born into a paradigm, there would naturally be some sense of it. [MEntity] It is already difficult, if not impossible, to escape the imprinting from a culture and society, even if the imprinting from caretakers is lifted. Therefore, it is more often than not, embraced to some extent, even if the Personality is resentful of it. [MEntity] In this case, in order to "ride the rides" of this paradigm, then at least "some of the tickets" must be bought, if you will. [MEntity] It is rare, and certainly of no significant nobility, for an Old/er Soul to opt out of a paradigm that does not cater to an Old Soul. [MEntity] In fact, it is often just the opposite: the Older Soul relishes in the opportunity to call upon the "younger" perspective for new experiences from a broader perspective. [MEntity] Old Souls do not flock to the pastures for retirement and tree-hugging, though many do, but often for the satisfaction of False Personality, than anything, in those cases. [MEntity] If Old Souls wanted to avoid the struggles of a paradigm, they know full well by now that all one has to do is wait for the cycles to turn, and a more comfortable paradigm will emerge. [MEntity] Instead, Old Souls tend to flock to the most challenging of paradigms for the sake of a more complete experience. It is of no coincidence that many can say, "If I knew then what I know now." A return to High School with your adult awareness would change everything about how your choices would be made. [MEntity] Essence gets to do that. [MEntity] The Old Soul in a Consumer paradigm is like going back to High School, and making choices from a more adult perspective. And it is never quite what was anticipated. [MEntity] Many Old Souls get through the entire incarnational cycle of lives without an Old Soul paradigm in place. [MEntity] No specific paradigm is necessary for any Soul Age to evolve. Your evolution is your own, and dependent only on your choices, and what you do with them, both as Personality and Essence. [MEntity] The shift in paradigm is moving, though, and living during a shift is always enticing to every Soul Age. [MEntity] Every global shift tends to attract nearly all fragments still incarnating. [MEntity] One of the reasons a shift takes "so long" is because there are usually not enough bodies to go around for everyone to be involved at once, so it is a gradual process that each gets to experience in unique ways that either passively or actively engages with it. [GeraldineB] that's interesting -- similar to when ISs manifest [MEntity] Geraldine, the Infinite Soul tends to Manifests directly in relation to a shift in paradigm. so the shift and/or the Infinite Soul is attractive. [GeraldineB] Oh, that's right, JC came in during the last shift [MEntity] Not all shifts must be accompanied by the Infinite Soul and the Logos. [MEntity] Only those that may be sensed as going terribly awry. [GeraldineB] I will have to ask you deeper questions on that during my Project [MEntity] Though it may seem as if there is a lot of leeway, there is an awareness on the scale of the Infinite Soul that can calculate the probabilities of devastation with either little, or no, recovery for the species. [MEntity] All fragments eventually get to participate in a Manifestation of the Infinite Soul (as it is part of the Soul Ages), as there will always be at least one parallel version of existence that is headed for devastation. [MEntity] In other parallels, a Manifestation has already taken place in the wake of devastating nuclear war, which was averted "here." [GeraldineB] yes . . .back in the 80s [MEntity] The Manifestation would have been around the millennium mark. [MEntity] Though the war was earlier, yes. [MEntity] For now, "this" parallel (and a great many of its parallels) appear to be doing well in terms of evolving the shift in paradigm. [MEntity] In the parallels that did not do so well, there were fewer Old Souls in bodies. It should never be presumed that one's mere presence does not make a difference. [MEntity] When we say "did not do so well," we do not mean this on the scale of Essence, as all of it is meaningful and valuable, but for the Personalities, "better" can mean the difference between painful suffering and comfortable growth. [MEntity] The shift now into Citizenry is one that is a move away from Consumerism, but not excluding it. No shift in paradigm leaves one behind, but finds a way to build it into the new one. CITIZENRY AND CONTRIBUTION [MEntity] Citizenry will not eliminate competitiveness and Collecting, but would move it to the side as an emphasis, and bring into focus a new aim of meaningfulness and value. [MEntity] Citizenry here would be defined by us as Conscious Participation. [MEntity] As we said, Citizenry aims for Contribution as the predominant value and meaning instilled for that society, but would include a wide spectrum for how this plays out. [MEntity] This can play out in the forms ranging among philanthropy, charity, mutual benefit, sharing, homogenization, global government, "one world" [MEntity] Citizenry corresponds to a Mature Soul perspective, which can be understood as the Baby Soul perspective, Exalted. [MEntity] The pressure to conform can be very similar to the Baby Soul paradigms, but with the aim for the benefit of each other, and not a central authority. [MEntity] The precarious key here is in deciding what is beneficial for all in a way that does not harm. [MEntity] It is a Mature Soul concept couched in Young Soul terms (or vice versa, for some). [MEntity] Citizenry cannot function well with the part of the phrase "do what thou will." [GeraldineB] LOL -- no, we're finding that out [MEntity] Unless that "will" is conscious in its awareness of impact on others. [MEntity] That level of consciousness awareness is one that does not evolve "overnight," though the concept and paradigm of Citizenry will have been in place long before that development. [MEntity] So that phrase is a helpful bridge, and has been in place for many for some time, in some form. [MEntity] As Citizenry gathers up a momentum of conscious awareness, the shift, ironically, moves away from "so long as it harm none," to "so long as it benefit any." [MEntity] This would mean that anyone who would be impacted by the choices and actions within that paradigm were somehow AT LEAST capable of being benefited. [MEntity] It is not presumed that everyone will share the same will, of course, but that the aim would be for Contribution, at the very least. [MEntity] When the aim is only for avoiding harm, choices can become clouded by fears, frustrations, guilt, defensiveness, etc. but when there is a realization that a choice may benefit more than just the self, the aim can tend to be light, fueled by enthusiasm, and creativity. [GeraldineB] Would GMO (Genetically Modified Organisms) fall in the Contribution category as they purport to give larger crops due to being less susceptible to insect damage -- yet they cause corollary damage and some allergies [MEntity] Geraldine, such things would fall into the category of "benefit any," so long as there is actual benefit, and benefit that can be opted into or out of without the cost of another benefit. [MEntity] For instance, if this is the only choice for food, or if that foodstuff is not labeled for the sake of choice, then this is not considered a "benefit to any." [Martha] but Monsanto is trying to own the market and take away farmer's choices, does that outweigh the benefit? [MEntity] However, if without that option there is no other choice, then it would fall into a category of "benefit" for that group. [MEntity] Martha, your point supports our clarification that Citizenry, Contribution and Conscious Participation, always involves an expansion of choice, not a narrowing of it. [MEntity] This may be contextual, in that a starving group may find GMO to be its saving grace of benefit and expanded choice, while an abundant society with GMO imposed may not. [MEntity] However, the entire concept of GMO would have begun to fall by the wayside in a truly embraced paradigm of Citizenry, since this economy would lean toward a Resource-based economy, and would not require such extensive measures to create or sustain food sources. [MEntity] Issues of starvation begin to fall away, as well, since the sharing of resources for the benefit of more than Collecting becomes emphasized. [MEntity] Resources begin being looked at in terms of how they can help others, not in how they can protect, defend, and be withheld. [MEntity] Even the motivation for career and income move toward how one can Contribute, not just Consume. [brian] Michael, you said that the Young Soul aim might be described as COLLECTING and the Mature Soul aim might be described as CONTRIBUTION. For the sake of completeness, what themes might you use to describe the Baby Soul and Old Soul paradigms? [MEntity] Brian, that might be for Infant an aim for SECURING, and for Baby, and aim for CIVILIZING, and for Old an aim for EXPERIENCING. [MEntity] To make it easy to understand, one could add "use money for.... _____" and fill in the aim. [MEntity] Old Souls tend to use money for Experiencing. [MEntity] Mature Souls tend to use money for Contributing. [MEntity] Young Souls tend to use money for Collecting. [MEntity] Baby Souls tend to use money for Civilizing. [MEntity] Infant Souls tend to use money for Securing. [MEntity] Of course, "money" might not be what is used, but whatever is the exchange of that economy. [MEntity] No matter what the dominant paradigm, a Soul Age will tend to "use money" for whatever the aim is for that Soul Age, even as they play by the rules of the dominant paradigm. [MEntity] For example, even in the paradigm of Consuming, the Old Soul will tend to gladly gather money, forgo money, spend money when it brings Experiences. MORE QUESTIONS: [MEntity] We will open the floor now to more questions such as these, as we know Troy must comply to a time limit in his current environment. [Bobby] my question was based on right now I feel like money to me is more about security. I suppose that really depends on what is going on in one's life at the moment as well as the major paradigm they find themselves in, correct? [MEntity] Bobby, as money is currently used within a paradigm of Consuming, with an aim for Collecting, then when one is not able to consume what one is used to consuming, or expects to consume, it can cause great stress. [MEntity] When there is no paradigm in place for Citizenry with an aim for Contribution, there is little to consider as a network of support for fluctuations in what one can Contribute. [MEntity] As long as there is a paradigm of Consuming in place, there will be a paradigm of lack, and the subsequent prompts for what is necessary to remedy that. [MEntity] If that might require help, there may be shame attached to it. If that might require enduring a great shift in what was expected or familiar for Consuming, there can be a great deal of fear provoked. [MEntity] The only remedy for the Older Soul is to INCLUDE its own paradigm as valid. [MEntity] In other words, regardless of income, finances, comfort, there is EXPERIENCE here. [MEntity] This does not mean that the Old Soul would embrace starvation because it is a glorious Experience, but more that the embrace of something such as that as simply being a rich resource of Experience, solutions can tend to come much easier. [MEntity] Embracing whatever paradigm is useful within the grasp of your Soul Age is helpful. This might mean embracing the paradigm of Citizenry, and allowing yourself to ask for help, and to do what you can to help, so as to create that circuit in the life. [MEntity] It will not negate the dominant paradigm, but can, at least, expand paradigms. [MEntity] Thus, expanding solutions, feelings, perspectives, resources. [MEntity] Another way to look at the situation would be in terms of drawing from your rich resources of Experience as a means for helping bring you back into a sense of security. It is not so much that you need to see the current situation as rich with experience, but that you have a bank of experience that is already useful. [MEntity] On the other hand, Security is one of the 9 Needs, and this can tend to be a theme of exploration, regardless of what economy or paradigm is in place. [Maureen] I know this is far off future, but ...Will the Resource Economy start with a Mature Soul world and move into a more "progressed" form in an Old Soul world? What will be the biggest "change" to experience from Mature to Old - especially for Older souls? [MEntity] The shift of economy for most Mature to Old is toward bartering. A resource-economy would have already been in place for this, as well as a sense of support for any individual's sense of Contribution. [MEntity] Contribution then feeds into Experiences. Foods and Goods are not as valuable as experiences. [MEntity] Food and Goods would tend to have become so freely shared that lack is a foreign concept, except in terms of experiences, and this is what would then be bartered, specifically in terms of how one might be instrumental in helping to aim for experiences. [Maureen] Do you have an example for us? [MEntity] There are many examples of this via what is called the Internet. [MEntity] A great amount of resources for expanding upon one's experiences is available there. [MEntity] And often in terms of barter, which is not always specifically negotiated, but implicit. [MEntity] Simple participation in the web site generated by each of you as "TLE" is an example. [MEntity] There are few, if any, conditions on what is exchanged, with benefit freely offered and received, with Experience as a great part of the aim. [MEntity] That is a working example of something similar that might play out on a large scale. [EricM] Bit of an overarcing question, but Is this the first time humanity has ever experienced Mature as a predominant paradigm, or has it happened in the past (or alternatively, might it return to a predominantly young paradigm in the future)? I ask, as I’m trying to clarify how these shifts have happened (i.e. are they more linear or have they had cycles/starts and stops). [MEntity] It is not the first time, and it will not be the last, and while there tends to be a fairly linear cycling on a global scale, they are built from sub-cycles with those that may or may not be linear or obviously connected. [EricM] oh, and examples are appreciate as well :) [MEntity] Dominance of paradigm and Soul Age is entirely dependent upon those incarnated and participating in the world. [MEntity] Every cycle of "recorded history" tends to be a set of sub-cycles that lead up to a global manifestation of the average Soul Age of the entire Design. [MEntity] Most of what is currently understood as recorded history only maps the return to an emphasis on Infant and baby, and then a shift into Young. [MEntity] We must conclude here for today, as Troy's time has come to a close in his environment. [MEntity] Good day to each of you.
  25. I've been going through Therapy, and had a breakthrough in my last session. In Michael Teachings terms. I finally feel like I'm manifesting my soul age and level. For myself I've noticed the manifestation around two things so far; The need/desire to purchase things that I may want but not need has gone. I'm simply happy with what I have. The other thing is that I no longer harbor anger towards those with different political opinions than me, even over issues I feel strongly about. I recognize I'm on a different path than they are, and that is okay. I feel a peace in my life I haven't felt before.
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