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U.S. Presidential Election Comfort and Anxiety Thread

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2 hours ago, Stickyflames said:

Regarding the last six or so posts....what the fuck?

I'm not getting it, either.

 

 

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2 hours ago, AnnH said:

I'm not getting it, either.

 

 

Unfortunately, I am. Two points:

 

1. Remember that we're dealing with a Priest.

2. Every channel, without exception, has blind spots and biases that show up in their channeling.

 

Take this whole exchange with a large grain of NaCl on both sides.

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@John Roth, believe me, I am taking what NicV is saying with a massive boulder of NaCI. and many more after that.

There are plenty of Old Soul Priests here on TLE who see Trump for the dictator he is. The zealous Priest thing depends on the person, case by case, and here, by their posts and behaviour. I am careful with anyone who endorses someone who I see as harmful. I keep my distance and analyse thoroughly.

I think Trump can't provide for others needs. I know Trump doesn't have the capacity, as a Young Soul, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. He has zilch compassion unless its his own kids. Or wives. Unless his own welfare and wellbeing are threatened, it is Young Soul strategy and game as usual.

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I need to practice my compassion towards all roles and not stereotype.
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13 hours ago, AnnaD said:

He has zilch compassion unless its his own kids. Or wives. 

 

agree, but thats debatable, he likes Ivanka but certainly not Tiffany and he acts also like a jerk to his wive/s, with his two older sons he seems too play some sick games like "do what I want and you may get some money and attention" (but I guess thats ok cause they seem like numbskulls themself)

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15 hours ago, AnnaD said:

He has zilch compassion unless its his own kids. Or wives. 

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Nope, they are just products and marketing objects to him. 

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21 hours ago, Stickyflames said:

Regarding the last six or so posts....what the fuck?

 

Yeah, I'm going to step away from it. Sometimes when we force our personal need for specialness into a teaching that only encourages our uniqueness, we end up forcing a Square Peg into a Round Hole... it's just gonna backfire. Like it did for Sarah Jessica Parker long ago in high school, LOL.

 

 

MUSIC BREAK - Time to break out your 80's dance moves!

 

 

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9 hours ago, Troy said:

 

Nope, they are just products and marketing objects to him. 


I do think he genuinely cares about Ivanka, at least as much as someone like him CAN genuinely care.  It wouldn't be surprising, given that she's his ET.

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So, in contrast to Betsey De Vos being confirmed as Head Inculcator of Scripture and no Opportunities for our young, and Elizabeth Warren being refused the right to speak Coretta Scott King's testimony against Jeff Sessions, and, Madeline Albright, John Kerry and who else? debating against Trumps ridiculous immigrant ban, is their any other definite good news? I got a clear image today, of Darth Vader sitting down for a long shit on the toilet, and the world staring up at his hairy pustilent arse. I feel like the toilet water, frankly. Who is standing up to him???

I am donating monthly now to ACLU.

This looks like the apocalypse. I don't think anyone will stop him. It seems as though while the courts are arguing whether or not an executive order is constitutional, collateral damage still happens simultaneously on other levels, anyway, that doesn't get challenged. Will it take another Young Soul leader to stop Trump, who will start a war with America? That is what I am afraid of. Because all this Are we following Due Process shit feels like a waste of time if it fails to stop Trump.

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Some comforting words from a GQ interview with Ricky Gervais, the Mature Sage in C2E2.

 

Do you worry that we’re going to fuck things up so badly that by the time we come around to science and rational thought we’ll have already ruined everything?
I don’t think so. I’m an optimist. I think this might be a little blip. People believing stuff doesn’t change the facts. So you can have all these lies, all these crazy beliefs, but at the end of the day, water’s made up of H2O, 2 and 2 is 4, the Earth is round, the universe is 13.7 billion years old, evolution is a fact, we all die. You can blithely say, “I’m gonna live forever.” But you won’t. Now, could we destroy the world so there’s no one around to know the truth? Well, yeah. Some people set their own house alight ‘cause they hate their neighbor and they want their neighbor’s house to burn down and that’s the only way they can think of doing it.

 

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Joking aside, I think it’s woken up a complacent society. And the encouraging thing is three million more did really vote for Hillary. And the march was the biggest protest march in history. You resist. You say no. That sounds very, very naïve, but it’s still a democratic, free country. But I think it is for people to step up to the plate. I think it’s for journalists to step up to the plate. I think it’s for comedians to step up to the plate and not be swayed, not be bought. We’re a good, smart species. Yes, we’re often irrational and narcissistic, but I think we’ve also got a decency. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have survived this long without fur, without claws. Our brains got us this far. I’m sure we’ll be okay.

 

http://www.gq.com/story/ricky-gervais-are-we-screwed-interview

 

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Here is a longer version of a list going around on social media. Some of this has been attributed to George Lakoff, but regardless of source these are great things to remember.

 

The addition of the John Lennon quote was a light bulb for me (bolding added by me below). This is why the Women's March worked: It was non-violet; it was hilarious; it was cheeky; people brought their children; it was a family affair. The police that I saw in St. Louis were laughing and were amused.

 

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1. Don't use his name;
2. Remember this is a regime and he's not acting alone;
3. Do not argue with those who support him--it doesn't work;
4. Focus on his policies, not his orange-ness and mental state;
5. Keep your message positive; they want the country to be angry and fearful because this is the soil from which their darkest policies will grow;
6. No more helpless/hopeless talk;
7. Support artists and the arts;
8. Be careful not to spread fake news. Check it;
9. Take care of yourselves; and
10. Resist!

 

Keep demonstrations peaceful. In the words of John Lennon, "When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system’s game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight! Because once they’ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don’t know how to handle is non-violence and humor." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oJ9w0x_dzo)


When you post or talk about him, don't assign his actions to him, assign them to "The Republican Administration," or "The Republicans." This will have several effects: the Republican legislators will either have to take responsibility for their association with him or stand up for what some of them don't like; he will not get the focus of attention he craves; Republican representatives will become very concerned about their re-elections.

 


 

 

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15 hours ago, DanielaS said:

 

Joking aside, I think it’s woken up a complacent society. And the encouraging thing is three million more did really vote for Hillary. And the march was the biggest protest march in history. You resist. You say no. That sounds very, very naïve, but it’s still a democratic, free country. But I think it is for people to step up to the plate. I think it’s for journalists to step up to the plate. I think it’s for comedians to step up to the plate and not be swayed, not be bought. We’re a good, smart species. Yes, we’re often irrational and narcissistic, but I think we’ve also got a decency. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have survived this long without fur, without claws. Our brains got us this far. I’m sure we’ll be okay.

 

http://www.gq.com/story/ricky-gervais-are-we-screwed-interview

 

 

Yeah, that's a big part of why I'm not too worried.  Things probably would've been better in the immediate sense if Hillary had won, but people would've stayed asleep that much longer.  Systemic problems and injustices that our country has been guilty of for a long time would've continued and probably remained largely ignored because there would've been a presentable face put to them.  Trump has forced people to confront issues that have been very easy for many Americans to ignore in the past.  If, say, Barack Obama kills civilians with drone strikes or Bill Clinton advocates the building of a border wall, it's easy for people to ignore it or rationalize it because they're likable guys who say the right things and "act presidential."  Not so with a guy like Trump.

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I'm heading back to being a bit more grounded now.  Really needed to take a break, and Tao love them, SNL has helped me find some humor in it all.

 

But, I wanted to put this out there, for some feedback.

 

Wonder if we could convince people, in states with the career, sick politicians that are in Congress, (for I feel they are just as dangerous to the well being of our country), to change their party to Republican for 2018, and vote against them, voting for more moderate new incumbents.  To change the Power out of their hands before they further damage the country.  It would certainly give a reality check to the more moderate politicians who are serious about their duty to our country, and it's citizens.  Ryan, O'Connell, the Tea Party people.  They've got to go!  It surely would require watching those races closely.  It just blows my mind that they keep getting re-elected.  Thoughts?

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Well, I think I broke this thread.  lol!!!   Still, it was a great thread.  Enjoyed reading it.  

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1 hour ago, Lori Abrams said:

Well, I think I broke this thread.  lol!!!   Still, it was a great thread.  Enjoyed reading it.  

 

Why do you think you broke the thread? It's still going strong, but we just take breaks from it, I think.

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I got busy after my last post reply, and kept thinking about how I asked a question and then went MIA, lol.  Then I come on, and no one posted, or answered.  Just making up my own little stories.  hehe.  Wishing all the best.  

 

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On 2/10/2017 at 9:51 AM, Sam K said:

Yeah, that's a big part of why I'm not too worried.  Things probably would've been better in the immediate sense if Hillary had won, but people would've stayed asleep that much longer.  Systemic problems and injustices that our country has been guilty of for a long time would've continued and probably remained largely ignored because there would've been a presentable face put to them.  Trump has forced people to confront issues that have been very easy for many Americans to ignore in the past.  If, say, Barack Obama kills civilians with drone strikes or Bill Clinton advocates the building of a border wall, it's easy for people to ignore it or rationalize it because they're likable guys who say the right things and "act presidential."  Not so with a guy like Trump.

 

Yes and it will still take more time to continue waking up.... as we grope for our collective heart.

 

@Lori Abrams I remember years ago my uncle said he registered republican so he could burrow within.  I'd love to see a viable muliti party system.

 

 

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