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Note from Janet: This topic contains all the material from Geraldine's original discussion thread. I've elected to include all the original comments that contain additional Michael content. 

The 5th Internal Monad -- During and Completed

Posted by Geraldine B on June 17, 2013 at 11:44pm in ADVANCED TEACHINGS

 

I've decided to start a discussion thread on the 5th Internal Monad. I'll try to include relevant articles and/or at least the links to other material on the topic. I'll be discussing my own observations of how it has affected me, and I'm hoping that other 5th IMers will chime in with their own experiences and/or observations of either what's going on during the Stages of the IM or how it seems to have affected them afterwards.

 

While so many of the TLE Students are in some Stage of the 4th Internal Monad, as that is completed in positive poles, all will be interested in the next Internal Monad, even if there is a 30 years pause between them. I would characterize the 5th Internal Monad of Re-creation to be one of late middle age, facing retirement. With so many processing the 4th IM during their 20s, that idea may be 100% off the mark. But, the channeling we have currently mentions women and menopause, which is a later life stage of the body.

 

Also, with all of the younger people going through their 4th IM, depending on how they are able to live those decades following it may have huge impact post-4th IM, and they'll enter the 5th from a very different perspective than those who are doing it now. I can't even imagine what it would have been like to have discarded most of my imprinting pre-30s and lived the next 20 years or so as a much more self-empowered person with a regularly occurring conscious connection to Essence, lessened Ego, Maya, and False Personality, and being regularly in positive poles. I hope some of you keep diaries or Journals.

MY STORY

I had completed both my 4th IM and 5th IM in Negative Poles by the time I was introduced to the Michael Teachings in late 2006 at age 62. I've not asked, but it's even possible that the 3rd was in a similar condition. It wasn't that I hadn't spent a fair amount of energy attempting to grow and develop, but I was locked into a particular mindset of rigid thinking, which didn't acknowledge Essence or Guides. Similarly, I held rigid beliefs about a series of "truths," which included my religious, spiritual, and political worldviews. And, of course, I held some equally rigid views about myself, which kept me in depression on a regular basis. I had bought into a series of lies about myself and couldn't break free.

 

Michael caused an almost instantaneous paradigm shift within a couple of years, anyway. I was awakened to use their term. Suddenly accepting that I wasn't alone, wasn't unlovable, wasn't "wrong," etc,. caused a whole series of slides from negative to positive poles. I've previously likened it to a Pachinko machine that has all kinds of bells and sounds, lights flashing as the balls drop. If it had had sound effects, it might have sounded like the electronic doors that slam open in a prison.

 

This makes my story different from many others as I didn't go through the Stages of these IMs consciously. I'd already gone through them as part of aging, but not as a Michael Student. So, I have no means of looking backwards and seeing what happened when. Within a few years, I was "reborn" to snag a term from elsewhere. Similarly, my Life Task and Goal kicked in but not really under my conscious control.

 

As they say, the rest is history. Most who have interacted with me since 2009 can see the changes as I've moved more in sync with my Life Task of "to draw soft conclusions," and a diminishment of my Self Karma of "to always be right." My sense of absolutism in thinking has been greatly diminished. Being willing to accept many others' viewpoints as being at least valid for them has become noticeable. I'm far more accepting that each of us has choice, and I use mine more consciously and allow others the freedom to be themselves.

 

The pain I'd carried throughout my life about choices made early in life turned out to be part of Abandonment Monads, and were resolved and let go. While I remember some unhappy events, they don't replay on autoloop. They are gone and not worth examining any further. My 30-year marriage to George is similarly defused. I bear him no ill will.His profile info. Between my TLE Blog and my Validating Michael blog all of the expanded information is available for those interested.

 

Recreation for me has been to take all that I've been and done and create a "new" me that is consistent with ideas I've held for a long time but were crowded out due to pain. The Open Michael Workshops have been very helpful, too. Step by step, month after month, I've opened up my awareness to include new things. The Rejection aspect of Discrimination is nearly gone, or at least not nearly as knee-jerk.

 

But, I still don't LIKE parsnips!

Post-5th Internal Monad

[Excerpt from TT: 2010-08-04]

[Geraldine] I feel as though I’m floating through in between Internal Monads. But, I suspect that’s not quite possible, too. Where am I in the process?

 

[MEntity]

Your description is one way of describing such an experience as not being in an Internal Monad. Internal Monads are not back-to-back. Your 5th Internal Monad is complete. Your 6th Internal Monad is the comprehension of the onset of what it is that will help you exit the life.

 

In other words, now that the 5th Internal Monad has been fulfilled, and in the positive pole, you are simply not “working on” anything, and the point of that positive pole fulfillment is the enjoyment of what you have built from it.

 

[Geraldine] thank you — it definitely feels that way

 

[MEntity]

This “floating” sensation is actually the result of losing all attachments to not only your own ideas about who you “should be, or should have been,” but to the ikons, attachments, and cording relative to others who had made such determinations about you.

 

You are truly free.

Reply by Geraldine B on June 17, 2013 at 11:45pm

The Start of the 5th Internal Monad

[Excerpt from TT: 2007-01-07]

[Kathryn] How does one recognize the start of the 5th IM and what are the various steps/levels experienced as one progresses through the monad?

 

[Michael Entity] Though this question requires a session devoted to it entirely, we can respond briefly here. One can recognize most easily the entrance to the 5th Internal Monad by a strong emphasis in the life to RECREATE IT. The 5th Internal Monad is a process of evaluating the life and all of its accomplishments, fulfillments, agendas, goals, experiences, etc. and then RECREATING the life from a place that could be said to be from a philosophy of “If I knew then what I know now.” If one equates one’s age with a sense of conclusion or lack of time, then one has either NOT completed the Fourth Internal Monad, or one has completed it in a Negative Pole (which are virtually the same thing.) If one looks up and feels an inspiration to experience the freedom gained from knowledge extracted from previous experiences, then one is probably entering the 5th Internal Monad from a place of strong integration of the 4th Internal Monad. The 5th Internal Monad could be said to have a Positive Pole of RECREATION, and a Negative Pole of RESENTMENT.

Reply by Geraldine B on June 17, 2013 at 11:46pm

Difference Between the 4th and 5th Internal Monads

[Excerpt from TT: 2005-03-06]

[Tibtyc] Good evening. If I understand the concept of 4th internal Monad (and my life) correctly, I did mine twelve years ago. Or at least started it. That happened rather dramatically. Now my life has come to of halt, like the end of a road. Could this be my 5th monad? The Monads remind me of the acts in an opera, or the movements in a symphony. How to dif erentiate between 4th and 5th internal Monad, or Monads generally? That is my question.

 

[Michael_Entity]

The 4th Internal Monad has an emphasis on REGAINING INNOCENCE, or put another way, Growing Into Your Own Idea of YOU.

 

The 5th Internal Monad has an emphasis on RECREATING YOUR LIFE, or put another way, HAVING FUN. Your life has come to a halt simply for the sake of your “catching your breath.” There are 7 stages to every cycle of growth whether described in terms of a Monad or in terms of a relationship; 3 Exalted stages, 3 Ordinal stages, and 1 Pivotal/Neutral point. The Pivotal/Assimilative/Neutral Point is a point that can be called upon at ANY TIME during the process of the other 6 stages. This allows the Personality to gain its footing after a particularly difficult stage, if necessary. It is also the point in which you finalize a cycle so as to gain the benefits of the whole process you just completed. Some would call this point THE VOID. We agree with that phrase.

 

[Tibtyc] Is the 4th stage like catching your breath? I mean the Neutral point.

 

[Michael_Entity] What you are describing as a “halt” is more like a moment or period of time much like having your foot between two rungs on a ladder; except that you have forgotten that there is movement. With your emphasis on the suspension between steps, you may feel you are at a halt or even terribly ungrounded or non-directional. But we assure you that you are never at a halt.

 

[Tibtyc] Actually the “halt” only refers to outer aspects. And I keep thinking of the do-re-mi system, the octave

 

[Michael_Entity]

The 4th stage within either of the Monads would be MANIFESTATION, or the stage of tangibility.

 

We will include with Troy’s transcription the 7 stages for the 4th and 5th Internal Monads for your further exploration.

 

[Note: The 7 Stages for the 4th and 5th Internal Monads were never added to this transcript -- nor on the yahoo group list. I've yet to locate that document. I did find "7 Stages of the 4th Internal Monad" in late April and have posted it separately. glb]

Reply by Geraldine B on June 17, 2013 at 11:47pm

7 Stages of the 5th Internal Monad

[GeraldineB] Similar to past questions on the 7 Stages of Internal Monads, I would like the basic information on the 7 Stages of the 5th Internal Monad and any additional information that indicates non-completion of the 5th IM in positive poles vs completing it in positive poles.

 

[MEntity]

The 5th Internal Monad could be described as the RECREATIONAL RITE OF PASSAGE. We mean the term in both the embrace of a playful state and the active creativity that brings the life to a new state of acceptance.

 

The 7 Stages may go as such:

 

INITIATION comes with a Positive Pole of Awareness and a Negative Pole of Anxiety.

 

INTROSPECTION comes with a Positive Pole of Appreciation and a Negative Pole of Regret.

 

REALIZATION comes with a Positive Pole of Acceptance and a Negative Pole of Resentment.

 

MANIFESTATION comes with a Positive Pole of Revitalization and a Negative Pole of Punishment.

 

CONTENTMENT comes with a Positive Pole of Vividry and a Negative Pole of Overwhelm.

 

MAGNETIZATION comes with a Positive Pole of Bonding and a Negative Pole of Burden.

 

EMANATION comes with a Positive Pole of Transcendence and Negative Pole of Collapse.

 

Those who move out of this Internal Monad without completion tend to fall quickly into senility, loss of memory, development of Alzheimer's, and/or regress entirely into memories that are programmed into the body, losing focus on the present as a state of existence.

 

Those who move out of this Internal Monad with successful completion tend to return to the past as means for understanding the present in new, profound ways, using anecdotes and stories to help share wisdom; and rather than being consumed by the natural decline of memory, it is utilized as a form of philosophizing, and can even lead to psychic events and breakthroughs.

 

Whereas the 4th Internal Monad is one in which the individual works through the processes of "liking who I have chosen to be," the 5th Internal Monad is one in which the individual works through the processes of "liking who I am," or "who I've become," regardless of what was chosen or intended.

 

The 3rd Internal Monad might be described as Freeing Yourself; the 4th as Defining Yourself; and the 5th as Being Yourself.

Reply by Kathryn on June 19, 2013 at 8:30am

Ok, here is the transcript from a private session with Michael through Troy:

 

March 1, 2011

Channel: Troy Tolley

 

Kathryn41: Hi Michael :-)

 

MEntity: Hello to you, Kathryn. We are here. You are welcome to interrupt us in our responses for the sake of a conversational tone, but we will also let you know that we have completed a response. This is to keep you from wondering if we are done when there is a pause. We can begin our responses to your questions now.

 

Kathryn41: I suspect I am in the 5th IM right now and I'm looking for some feedback about where I find myself right now. I feel good about a lot of what I've experienced but I also feel like somehow I am in a holding pattern - that maybe I've 'missed' the boat' so to speak. So I am asking' where am I in my life and how does essence perceive what I/we have experienced/accomplished? Is there something more for us planned, somewhere else for me to go? I find little these days that interest me and that just doesn't feel right, so thank you for any insight you may offer.

 

MEntity:

It does appear to us that you are at the beginning stages of your 5th Internal Monad. The fact that you are only at the beginning is part of why you sense a kind of void for now. You are looking forward when the 5th Internal Monad is about looking back. That shift of direction, at first, can feel like a stand-still. You certainly have not "missed the boat," but you are also not so comfortable with the past, at least in this context of revisiting the spectrum between Recreation and Regret/Resentment.

 

Recreation is the point of the 5th Internal Monad, and that means revisiting and recalibrating your momentum, adapting it to a completely revised paradigm, revised set of tools, revised priorities, etc.

 

Kathryn41: I feel like I have no momentum at all . .

 

MEntity: Inertia feels like a lack of momentum.

 

Kathryn41: yes

 

MEntity: But you have momentum. The turning of your focus to the past is one that will have to be embraced before feeling that sense of movement and enthusiasm again. What we mean by "the past" is the revisiting to patterns within and without that literally and figuratively do not contribute to your well-being, if they ever did at all.

 

Kathryn41: there is much about the past that feels more in focus for me now than where I am today. I feel like maybe today I am in the wrong pattern and in the past it was a better pattern for the most part . . .

 

MEntity: In your case, you may be finding yourself looking at how your patterns of busy-ness, or focus on doing, has been a part of your sense of importance, sense of purpose, and sense of definition.

 

Kathryn41: ok, that definitely makes sense.

 

MEntity: Finding yourself in a position that is free from definition is exactly the point of entering into a 5th Internal Monad.

 

Kathryn41: well, I am definitely there! :-D So in a way I am starting the process of 'redefining' myself?

 

MEntity: The 5th Internal Monad is a shedding of immaturity, a release of naivety, a leap into creativity that is quite often similar to "if I had known then what I know now," but then taking that and adapting it to the tools and paradigm of your current position in your life.

 

Kathryn41: that leap into creativity sounds good - if I could get the momentum to leap! :-)

 

MEntity:

The "if I had known then" often brings with it a process of grief, because it means that you are older, that your body is not what it used to be, and that so many of the ideals of youth are no longer applicable. That is the negative end of the spectrum for entering into the 5th Internal Monad, and it is a necessary step.

 

Grieving what is no longer applicable is a process of accepting the truth of this, and it frees the psyche to then move into creativity. As you allow the grief to be a process of owning the truth of your past vs current health, current status of body, current tools, current ideals, then the recreation can begin. In other words, you are not leaving the past behind, which is what grief can often feel like it is telling you, but you are building upon it in a new way.

 

An example: A person may have had an ambition for competitive sports, having done well, or not, depending on several standards, but upon entering the 5th Internal Monad, it is realized that it is no longer an ambition or practical goal to continue competing. This is going to be met with romanticizing the past, and grieving that shift away from such ambition.

 

It may even be met with regret and resentment that maybe other choices should have been made because now what does a retired sportsman do with his life? That is where the Recreation comes in, if one chooses to move forward through and into the Positive Poles of this Monad. This person could become a coach, a commentator, a consultant, an advisor, write a book, be a tutor, etc, all building upon his past, but within a new paradigm and using a revised set of tools.

 

Kathryn41: so, it is first defining what was the situation in the past, looking at what it is now, deciding what is no longer viable, then finding a new direction to go from building upon the experiences of the past?

 

MEntity: The positive pole process and completion of the 5th Internal Monad is an acceptance of the validity of age and maturity, along with the use of creativity to adapt passions to a revised paradigm and set of tools.

 

Kathryn41: what if you have no passions now? Or is that just part of being in the first level of the 5th IM?

 

MEntity: You do. Everyone does, even the most passionless. But it is simply not prominent now because you are grieving. There is a sadness that must be moved through before feeling that sense of return to yourself.

 

Kathryn41: ah, ok. I can understand that, and it is in its way reassuring to know that there is a reason.

 

MEntity: Not only that, but there is always a phase where one loses all definition as a means to redefine.

 

Kathryn41: I think I'm there . . .

 

MEntity:

There are two key phrases that may help you to focus through this phase: 

 

IT IS NEVER TOO LATE. By this we mean that it is vital to remember that life is not "over" just because the youthful part of it has been peaked. The youthful part of it was just that: a PART of it.

 

MY PASSION IS AN OCEAN. By this we mean that it will help you to remember that you are like the beach on the shores of the ocean, and the ebb and flow of a tide does not mean the ocean has disappeared.

 

Kathryn41: thank you for the second one especially - that one I can definitely use

 

MEntity: There is a third key that could be used, as well, and that is to allow your lack of obvious passion and your openness/search for it to be its own form of passion.

 

Kathryn41: . . . be passionately dispassionate? hehehe

 

MEntity:

By this we mean that your passion can be a kind of curiosity for what is next. And "what is next" is as much a result of your creativity as it is about your life unfolding from Essence.

 

Passion is often sparked by Curiosity, so when you give credit to even the slightest curiosity that you may have about something, someone, or yourself, this can keep the embers of passion, so to speak, glowing enough to be felt.

 

Kathryn41: ok, so find my curiosity and 'run with it' so to speak :-)

 

MEntity: No, there is no need to run with it; merely acknowledging that you are curious is enough.

 

Kathryn41:

and don't worry if it relates to who I was or how I was earlier in my life, but find it in the now . . .

 

ok - even easier, hehe

 

MEntity: Your curiosity may not be something that is of interest to run with, but it can remind you that you are still peeking through the eyes of passion.

 

Kathryn41: ok, so I have sort of been tethering my own creativity by not allowing myself just to be 'curious' about what is now rather than trying to make it fit into what was before?

 

MEntity: And greater than all of this is the reminder that you are not defined by your past, not defined by your passions, not defined by your lack of passions, and that having that lack of definition is not a lack of importance, meaning, or self.

 

Kathryn41: thank you. It does help to know what is going on - so much!

 

MEntity:

We do not see that you have "not allowed" yourself to be curious as much as we see that you have simply not realized that it was a valid cue. And yes, you have tried to superimpose the past onto the patterns of the present, but as you know, this only confuses the patterns of the present because the current patterns are born of the past, but not duplicates of the past.

 

A vine growing in a pattern on the wall can take branches around a corner into a completely new world, without having left its source.

 

Kathryn41: I like that image

 

MEntity: The 5th Internal Monad is like that corner, and your perspective is like that turn around the corner. It feels inevitable, final, and like a loss because you can no longer see "who you are" from back around that corner, but you are still profoundly connected to who you are, even as you move in such a new direction.

 

Kathryn41: I guess I wasn't seeing until now that it is a corner . .. the analogy works.

 

MEntity: We realize we are using poetic plant metaphors, but we think they are relevant to you.

 

Kathryn41: they are, thank you. I relate well to analogies, LOL

 

MEntity:

So to clarify:

 

You are in a process now of looking back, even as you move forward, and this feels like an inertia, but it is just a part of the process. You are looking back as a necessary part of the process so that you can see from where you have come, but not as a means to duplicate that, but more as a way to build upon that in new directions. The lack of passion you feel is directly proportional to what you KNOW about your new directions, and you know nothing of those, yet. You Know about the past, because you already experienced it, and it was a familiar pattern for a long time. But that does not mean your passion is lost to the past. It simply means you are in the process of revitalizing it, rejuvenating it, recalibrating it. During that phase, there is a tenderness, and it is important to allow for that tenderness, if you wish to move into Recreation, because that tenderness is your redefinition, your new malleableness.

 

Kathryn41: a tenderness? The sense of loss, the grief and the coming to terms with it emotionally?

 

MEntity: The 4th Internal Monad is about shedding the ideas of the past, and of others' who do not support your own ideas about who you are and what you do. The 5th Internal Monad is about shedding your own ideas about who you are, and about what you do, and recreating from a clean slate, often including the participation of Essence.

 

Kathryn41: aha!

 

MEntity: The 4th Internal Monad is about Purpose. The 5th Internal Monad is about Play.

 

Kathryn41: ok. Hehehe so what is essence interested in now? And I am only being half facetious here . . I have appreciated our 'partnership' and have long been aware that we - personality and essence - have made a good 'team'.

 

MEntity: The tenderness we speak of is meant to describe the sensitivity that comes with the lack of passion, the look to the past, the feeling of grief, if that is present. We then meant that this softness, tenderness, sensitivity is exactly what allows for the malleability that frees you and lets you redefine yourself anew.

 

Kathryn41: ok, thank you

 

MEntity: Your last question is one that only you can answer, and your curiosity is the first step here. We are being wholly non-facetious.

 

Kathryn41: It's alright - I will let essence speak for itself and we will figure out this 'recreation' together. Yes, I understand.

 

MEntity: As with any passion, inspiration, or creativity, it is generated from within, or discovered externally, often by surprise, stumbled upon, or realized without having intended for it to happen. That is the part you can leave up to Essence.

 

Kathryn41: I will.

 

MEntity: We will conclude here with you today, Kathryn.

 

Kathryn41: This is so good, Michael, Thank you so much. I very much appreciate this insight as it has given me an understanding and a clarity about what is going on. Thank you! both you and Troy :-)

 

MEntity: Enjoy your turning point as best you can, if you choose to do so, as it is only that. Good day to you. Goodbye.

 

Kathryn41: goodbye and again thank you; I will

 

Reply by Geraldine B on June 19, 2013 at 1:24pm

Thank you very much, Kathryn! I think this session really clarified that the 5th IM IS a "change of life" due to aging and maturity monad. I don't see how many under 50, especially during our modern times, would be ready for recreation. Everyone is aging more "gracefully." But, I also remember that Michael has said that for women to not accept one's body and allow for menopausal changes is to be in negative poles of the 5rth. This is what HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) does -- it stalls off aging. Many women continue to have their periods due to HRT as they've not shut off the reproductive processes. Others go through cosmetic surgeries, extreme physical fitness regimens, etc., to stall off aging.

 

But, again there is a big difference between adding a regimen that allows one to remain more physically fit so one can "play" and enjoy those later years more fruitfully than avoidance of them and wanting to still be "young." The 5th IM is all about inward looking and changes. It's about acceptance of oneself and then finding things that are "suitable" for the individual, not of social pressures of suitability.

 

Janet? Are you ready? :)

Reply by Janet on December 8, 2016:

Geraldine added that last question because she knew I had a session scheduled that day in which I planned to ask about my 5th IM. I never responded directly to the original thread, but I will add my material here.

From a POF on December 18, 2012:

[MEntity]

It appears that you have completed your 5th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole over the past 30 days or so, and this is now activating Agreements relative to where you are, both internally and externally.

 

The embrace of who you ARE vs who you think you were supposed to be has come to closure enough to close out this Internal Monad.

 

Once one surrenders to the concept of relieving themselves of, not only the expectations, demands, and imprinting of others, but also the expectations, demands, and impositions from the self, then the blossoming of ones wholeness moves into new levels.

From a private session on June 19, 2013: 

Janet:

Geraldine has started a TLE discussion about the 5th internal monad so I thought I should ask a question that has been on my back burner for awhile. You told me that I completed my 5th IM in early 2012, and that I had entered the 7th stage of the 5th IM way back in 2007. I am still on the downside of 60, so perhaps I completed this IM earlier than ‘average’, but I think it’s interesting that just the 7th stage took more than 4 years.

 

Can you please tell me the approximate times and/or ages I passed through my 2nd through 4th IMs and when I started the 5th IM? I’d like to try to associate my IMs with what was going on in my life at the time.

 

I’m also curious about whether I might have completed the 5th IM earlier than most tend to anticipate because the 5th IM was completed in my last lifetime. Does completion of IMs in earlier lifetimes of the soul age level help to speed the process and might that help explain why we have a number of young people on TLE who are already in their 4th IM?

 

MEntity:

Your 7th Stage took some time because the wrapping up of the 5th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole is about revisiting the past in a way that renews it as a resource, rather than escaping it as a burden, or over-romanticizing with sentimentality. It is a transformation of the past into a fuel for the present, not an anchor.

 

The First Internal Monad appears to have been completed within the first three weeks of life. The Second Internal Monad appears to have been completed between the years of 3 to 6. The 3rd Internal Monad appears to have been completed over the years between 12 and 15. The 4th Internal Monad appears to have been completed over the years between 28 and 35. That is, in general across the various versions of you.

 

Completing Internal Monads in a previous life does help the next Personality to complete those already completed. This is not guaranteed, and depends greatly on the Personality's interest in Manifesting Essence. The more one Manifests Essence, the more the access to that momentum.

 

These previous completions help to contribute to the acceleration among physically-younger fragments who come to the path earlier in the life, yes. However, that early move through the 4th Internal Monad is not dependent upon this. Ultimately, it will always be dependent upon the current Personality and the choices made.

 

There are times when the first Personality of a Soul Age and Level completes all Internal Monads through the 6th, yet the next 10 may not get past the 3rd.

 

Janet: And about when was the start of my 5th IM?

 

MEntity: We think your move into the 5th Internal Monad would have been around 1999.

 

Janet: Oh of course. As I expected.

 

Note from Janet: Did you do the math? My 5th IM took more than 12 years! Finally, I should include material from my most recent session that referenced the 5th IM.

From a private session on March 17, 2016:

MEntity: Hello to you, Janet. We are here, now. We can begin.

 

Janet:

Good morning Michael!

 

I’ve had June 4 2016 as a target for ‘early retirement’ for several years now, and as the time approaches I have very cold feet. I’m too young to really retire, but I think 30 years doing one type of work is long enough. I can’t afford to be without a job for an extended period, so I need (and want) another job, and maybe a new career. I’d prefer to have an income stream of some sort lined up before I give notice.

 

The problem is that I have no criteria for what comes next other than it should provide reasonable income, an outlet for creativity, and hopefully travel or time for travel. It also needs to be something different than my current technical IT job. I can’t search for jobs in online want ads based on those criteria.

 

My imagination is giving me nothing concrete to actively search for other than falling back to editorial and writing work, but is falling back to that type of work just playing it safe?

 

[secondary question omitted due to lack of relevance to this thread]

 

Can you give me any other information or advice about what’s in store ‘post-retirement’? I need a focus as to where to look or listen or go for whatever comes next. Or maybe I just need to have the patience to wait for the solution to appear, if that’s what it takes.

 

End of rambling question

 

MEntity:

Your "rambling" is quite coherent and we understand the uncertainty and unknowing quality of such a stage in life. Your concerns and considerations are valid.

 

What you are experiencing is normal and a part of the process of Recreation, or the 5th Internal Monad. It is supposed to be a free fall, a leap into uncertainty, at least in terms of shedding old ideas about the self in ways that allow for new ideas to bloom from deep within. When in the Recreation phase of life, you are processing an internal struggle between how you have come to define yourself in terms of DOING and now look to define yourself in terms of BEING. The "doing" part is still important, but will not be where the satisfaction is fulfilled.

 

For those who intend to complete the 5th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, it can be helpful to note that the qualities that support such manifestation of Essence without the weight of a lifetime of defined parameters are creativity, nurturing, and exploration.

 

Whatever you intend to do as a source of income, it must meet one or more of those conditions for it to be fulfilling.

 

Janet: I must clarify something. You previously told me I had completed the 5th IM, back in 2012. Am I now revisiting it or were there just unfinished components?

 

MEntity:

Yes, you have completed it, but there is world on the other side of it, and it is here. Everything you did as part of your intention to complete the 5th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole is now bearing its true fruits, so to speak.

 

Because the 5th Internal Monad is heavy in emphasis on Intellect, it is much "easier" to move through the Internal Monad in concept and truly process all that is required to resolve the struggle between Doing and Being, and freeing oneself from one's own ideas. However, on the other side of this the action and inspiration then come into focus in more obvious ways.

 

In addition to this, once one has completed an Internal Monad, it is quite common to then use what was learned to then "do it again" on deeper or more apparent levels of the life. In other words, what is learned becomes a skill and though you have recreated yourself at one point, you are doing it again and may do it again and again several times before the 6th Internal Monad.

 

You are no longer in any "danger" of remaining stuck in a Negative Pole, but you will still use the same process/stages.

 

So you are again in freefall, uncertainty, and experiencing the Anxiety of the first Stage.

 

It is familiar enough to you that you are not fearful, but this does not remove the necessity for restricted focus that will then broaden as you move toward Awareness.

 

... [material omitted that was not tied to 5th IM]

 

To move from Anxiety to Awareness you will find yourself moving more and more toward a "fuck it, why not" approach and uncover not only new depths of ideas and creativity and expression, but you will not lose the choreographer who can still anticipate the rhythms of the life and manage the details.

 

 

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KurtisM

Thank you Janet for this.

 

I have no direct knowing of the 5th IM as I"m only at the end of my 3rd.

But in reading all about it, I realized only one of my characters is in the 5th IM.

 

So it's cool to see how one in 5th IM interacts with those in their 3rd and early 4th. IRL and in Fiction.

And how the 5th IMer responds to experiences compared to everyone else.

 

That character would be in Stage 5:

"Stage 5- CONTENTMENT. This is entered through -Overwhelm, where the prospect of recreating life seems daunting or filled with too many possibilities. It is only in the shift into +Vividry that intuition returns, happiness is measured and life transforms to become more vibrant, curious, renewed etc.; you become aware that every little choice contributes to truly MAKE the day."

I think I got the info from a very descriptive delineation of the 5th IM.

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Uma
On 12/8/2016 at 0:01 PM, Janet said:

The 5th Internal Monad is about shedding your own ideas about who you are, and about what you do, and recreating from a clean slate, often including the participation of Essence.

Thank you for sharing this, Janet! Since my session yesterday, I have been reading everything I can find about the 5th IM, and although I only quoted one line above, all of it is relevant and insightful and I really appreciate it. Would it be a good idea to post my blog from my session here, along with the other 5th IM material, so it is all together?

 

Regarding the quote above, one of my main perceptions lately is that I am inviting Essence to participate in my awareness more and more often. It seems strange that it isn't 'automatically' there, but when I ask myself, Self, what do you say? it immediately brings me into the present moment more fully and expands my awareness beyond Personality. I just have to remember to ask. Sometimes just saying, "I want to be connected to my Essence" is enough to make it happen, no need for long meditations or rituals anymore. My sense of enjoyment is really expanded, and reading all this 5th IM material validates my perceptions even further. So thank you Janet and all who have contributed to this vast store of knowledge.

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Janet
6 hours ago, UmaBerliner said:

Would it be a good idea to post my blog from my session here, along with the other 5th IM material, so it is all together?

 

Why not just add a link to your blog here? 

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Uma
8 hours ago, Janet said:

 

Why not just add a link to your blog here? 

 Thanks, Janet. Here is my Michael Session regarding 5th IM

 

 

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