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By Anirudh Ramachandran · Posted
Hey Petra. This is where I feel the need to explain the difference in eastern philosophical approach. Catholicism and Protestantism can be defined as SECTS of Christianity. There is a large body of work that's common between the two, but they're mutually incompatible beliefs. In Hinduism, the Shaivites and Vaishnavites are wrongly classified as sects of Hinduism by western Indologists, but they're actually not that at all. The Vedas themselves say "Ekam sat vipraha bahudha vadanti", which means that there are many paths to reach the one truth. The Shaivites worhip Shiva the destroyer, who destroys the evil (features for MT students) inside you and the obstacles in your life. The Vaishnavites worship Vishnu the protector/operator of the universe, thus building the true self. You can become your true self either by destroying your features, or by strengthening your soul. The end result is the same, but the paths are different. That's why they're known as Sampradaayas or equal pathways. There's no incompatibility between these beliefs. Both sampradayas say that Vishnu and Shiva are manifestations of Brahma. Within the Abrahamic religious landscape, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are considered different religions even though there's a lot of common ground. But the Dharmic landscape is very different. Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism can be classified as differing Dharmas (virtues), but not as differing religions. To call them religions takes away from their true meaning, as Dharma cannot be translated easily. A Hindu Sanyasi will freely learn from a Jain or Buddhist Sramana or vice versa. It's not like the exclusivity of organized religion. Various channels have already stated that India has historically been an old soul country, but in recent past it has become a baby soul country that's gearing up for young soul stage. Hinduism and Buddhism appeal to a lot of Michael Students because they're old soul philosophies with no dogma. I need to be careful when I say this, because there are aspects of Shrauta Hinduism which have ritualism and inflexibility, but that's one of many many faces of Hinduism. Hindu philosophies evolved as "Guru Shishya Parampara" meaning "Tradition of teachers and students". The student would start their own school after graduating, and take the good of what they learnt from the teacher, discard the rest, and add their own flavor to it. That's what MT is doing now. Most travelers seek spiritual awakening in India and Tibet because the Himalayas are a place to let go of all your preconceived notions, and know yourself intimately. I agree. But MT has also stated that Neem Karoli Baba, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Satchitananda, and many other Hindu Gurus were late old souls. They didn't preach anything radically different from what was already stated in Hindu scripture. -
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Pretty surprising, is to go outside of expectations! Great exercise in sorting "a story" out and getting to the core, love it, all philosophies, religious text etc. are also just that, for our own growth. @Sam K " The views and philosophies espoused by nominally "Hindu" people and groups vary wildly, and there's not really such a thing as "standard" or "heretical" Hinduism either. It's more like a shared cultural context and lexicon than something like the Catholic Church." I just drive to the next little town of 1500 people and they have 13 different churches representing Christianity including the catholic church, some cults and other invitations for your spiritual health. Since the conception of any religion, in the thousands of years of their existence, people and groups vary wildly, of any of the official 12 religions known, each one of them has hundreds of offspring's. Point being, they were all steppingstones in our Spiritual Evolution and served at the time of their conception where we were, expressing the majority of the Soul Age Level of that time, and splintered off in their long time being into more subgroups, the more people had a chance to play around with them in their time frame. We are in a Paradigm shift and we will let go slowly of the old Paradigms that are not serving and standing in the way of the new, including old/dusty religions and philosophies. @Crystal Very well explained!!! Michael Teachings are a alive Teaching, the interaction between the Teacher and the Student evolves it with each questionnaire, in our right now and here time. I sum it up with what Michael said about Religion: Religion: We have yet to see a more powerfully marketed, unquestioningly-purchased, and ultimately pointless product on your planet. This is not to say that value is not ultimately extracted from the experience, but we have seen more detours in personal and global evolution due to the freely accepted oppression of religion than from any other context in your history. Religion is a Young Soul construct using the ingredients of Baby Soul myths. -
By Crystal · Posted
I think that spiritual seeking and teachings and other such journeys of discovery will always be with us. Spirituality will always be with us. What I think is going to be going away is the structure and dogma that is “organized” religion. A lot of the “you must do this, pray like this, believe this, act like this or you’re going to H E Double Hockey Sticks or other such bad place” is accretions left over from baby and young soul times when, I believe, people really did need that structure and found it comforting. I’ll continue the baby/young soul metaphor by saying when you, a human, are a young child, your parents take you everywhere. They drive you or they accompany you on the train. Then when you get to be a certain age, YOU are now in charge of your transportation. “Nope, I’m not going to drive you anymore. You have to figure out how to get there on your own.” And so it will be with humans. Teachings, spirituality, will always be there and always be sought. But the “how” and “why” and “what” will be less structured and spoon-fed to us and left up to us to discover, to absorb, to learn from, and to figure out. -
By Sam K · Posted
What does that actually mean, though? What is "organized religion," in this context? Organizations promoting an official creed or doctrine may be fading from history in favor of people seeking and adopting their own spiritual paths, but the positions and beliefs individuals adopt could still be classified as being broadly "Christian" or "Hindu" or "New Age," not prescriptively but descriptively. Moreover, I'm not sure it's really even accurate to call Hinduism an "organized religion" at all. The views and philosophies espoused by nominally "Hindu" people and groups vary wildly, and there's not really such a thing as "standard" or "heretical" Hinduism either. It's more like a shared cultural context and lexicon than something like the Catholic Church. I don't know. I think that there's a tendency sometimes in MT communities to take the idea that "organized religion is going away," and expand it into "any worldview or spiritual path which can be labeled or generalized as being part of an existing religious strain is primitive and obsolete by default." I really don't think that's supposed to be the takeaway.
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