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    [Excerpt from a private session for Diane on August 16, 2010]

     

    Diane: So...is my true Role Sage or Artisan?

     

    MEntity: We still see your records as showing that which would be a Sage as your Essence Role, though we realize you may not find resonance to the typical stereotype of the Sage.

     

    Diane: Yes, I don't like the limelight. Does my scholar casting influence this?

     

    MEntity:
    That lack of resonance to the stereotype is because the descriptions that most of our students read are the "average Sage," or the Young Sage. You are not Young, and the qualities related to how Young Sages usually manifest are not appealing to you.

     

    Yes, your Casting plays a major part in how your Role shows up, especially on a day-to-day basis. ...

     

    Diane: Any additional suggestions for self expression for this Old Sage?

     

    MEntity:
    You may not enjoy being in "the limelight," but one consistency of Sages is that it is rare to get through a lifetime without having been a model of example for at least one other person in some way.

     

    It could be said that the one consistency of a Sage is they are their own Teaching, in any lifetime, and the integrity of the Teaching is very important to uphold.

     

    It is not so much a literal teaching, but a sense of ambition and a knowing that even when not in the spotlight, they are being watched.

     

    That sense of being constantly watched, ironically, is one of the reasons the older Sages retreat into more intimate, personal forms of expression, but the integrity and importance of honesty in "who I am" remains strong.

     

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      Keep in mind that any move to a Positive Pole is only done by "entering" through the Negative Pole, so that even as one moves toward Intimacy, it will require some amount of Recruitment. And that is why we do not see one Pole as being "better than" another in any part of our system, but more a description of a process, a spectrum, a circle, a sphere. For example, when one has felt the isolation inherent in being a minority Soul Age, it may take Recruitment to establish a common ground that can then lead to the expansion, questions, and exploration that is Intimacy. We clarify this move from negative to positive so that you do not presume that if you recognize Recruitment in your gravitation toward people or the news, that you are "bad," or doing something "wrong." You are simply nearer to that point in your progress and experience of Resonance. 

      Recruitment often helps one to discover if there is a valid common ground at all. However, to remain in Recruitment as a foundation for your reality and relationships is to nurture delusion, fragility, and in some extreme cases a move into fundamentalism, and into psychological disturbances that include such diagnoses as sociopath and schizophrenic. 

      To wrap up our initial responses to this subject, we will say that if the older soul finds he or she is more depressed, overwhelmed, and upset by what is reported by the media as news and current events, then that older soul would simply want to balance that out with an active interest in other news that portrays the more dominant news on the planet, which is "good" or "neutral." 

      As we respond to your specific questions, we may be able to help elaborate upon how certain events trigger more responses within one’s self than other certain events. We will also seek to shed insight upon some of the current events that you may ask about that are perplexing, so that one can see how events can "mean" very different things within different contexts.

      [Question] South Africa has, at least for my whole life, been a country in the midst of constant fear and political upheaval. As we are a country of people with such vastly different socio-economic, educational and cultural back grounds, it often feels like there will forever be strife, disharmony and fear. The 2010 World Cup has been a break from this though. In the last month we have experienced the most profound Inspiration, Joy, Unity and Patriotism. It was the first time in my memory I felt like we where unified, and there was hope for a more tranquil life. Even the crime stats were down during this period. Was this just a fleeting thing, or should this be seen as an example of what is possible? Or just a reminder of what we may never permanently achieve? I honestly wish that the whole world could have experienced this Group Consciousness. 

      [MEntity] We would say that this example is one that exemplifies Recruitment over Intimacy. Keep in mind that Intimacy is only gained after Recruitment, but Recruitment is fragile, a distraction, and often short-lived or in need of great defense. For this event to move from Recruitment to Intimacy, it would require that the passion remain beyond the illusion of bonds generated by representation in a sports team. The demographic of South Africa is quite Moving Center-centric, if you will, so it is not surprising that one way toward Intimacy might be through the Physical symbolism of a sports game or team. In our perspective, this is fairly important to keep in mind because a Moving-Centered demographic can just as easily "bond" through war, genocide, and other physical plane tragedies that then act as reasons for unity. The fact that a sports event is preferred is something one might call a “good sign.” With that in mind, we can say that this Young Soul culture's sense of unity as generated from a game is indicative of a maturing population that would rather bond over playful competitiveness than over painful competitiveness; bond over games, instead of wars.

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      When we say "genetics" in this case, by the way, we are speaking of trends that become associated with certain cultures, ethnicities, and skin colors, but are not specifically linked in any biologically-consistent way. Some Centering inclinations do eventually become genetically-linked, such as the emphasis of strength on Intellect often having to be drawn from a pool of genetics that include poor eyesight. This tendency can be seen in Eastern Asian cultures and genetics. 

      [Question] What more can one "DO" in the world to help – i.e., an Older Soul in Observation - how do you make a difference?

      [MEntity]
      If your question is in relation to the potential presented by the unity over the sports game in South Africa, one can only do so much if one is not a part of that particular geography and culture. What one can "do" from afar is to remain educated about the politics and potential of that area, and then to find or create a means of communication and interaction with those who are involved in that area. This communication and interaction can then provide anything from a source of support to a source of inspiration to a source of tangible help. Beyond finding a way to actually be a part of the dynamic of that culture, however remotely, one can most often only choose to trust. 

      In choosing to trust, one has given some amount of recognition to the Essences involved in certain troubled areas, allowing for those Essences to experience and learn whatever it is they seek to learn and experience. This response from us is not an encouragement for ignoring or dismissing the plight of a demographic that is “out of sight, out of mind,” but to help encourage a capacity to differentiate between when one can do something vs when one cannot. Trust is a form of Doing, so there is always something one can DO, but Trust is also a form of Being, and Having, so all fragments can participate in Trust.

      Trusting a population over which you have no control, particularly when that population has no direct bearing on your daily life, is a form of Essence Recognition, and Essence Recognition is the only true form of evolution available to any fragment extant. 

      Evolution of any one fragment is an evolution of your species' collective consciousness, and then this potential evolution becomes available to any population.

      [Question] From what was said in the opening remarks, I can see how it might be difficult for the skeptic or cynic to see the "good news" of their reality, whereas it is more difficult for the idealist to see the "bad news" of their reality. Sliding from an idealist point of view, I've begun to slide towards cynicism when learning and analyzing the current events of the world, as well as seeing the directions that vectors of current events may lead in the coming decades, namely new wars, famines, and a great deal of hardship for many. I suppose it could be said just another century on Planet Earth.

      [MEntity]
      It is true that certain Attitudes may be inclined toward "good" over "bad" news, or vice versa, but this would only be true from the Negative Poles of the Attitude. 

      Though done in different ways, from the Negative Poles the Exalted Attitudes will tend to deny the "bad news" of reality, whereas the Ordinal Attitudes will tend to deny the "good news" of reality. It is not that these ends of the spectrum of news or life are "difficult" for the Attitudes to see, but that it is easier not to see them. What we mean is that the Exalted Attitudes "enter" reality through negative poles that tend to emphasize a lack of details, hence things are more beautiful, naturally. The Ordinal Attitudes tend to "enter" reality through negative poles that emphasize details, hence things are a bit "uglier" or pixelated, if you will. Again, we remind you that for one to move to the Positive, one must enter through the Negative, so these inclinations are “natural.” This is why we say that is it "easier," not because it is difficult to move beyond the negative, but that it takes effort. It takes no effort to rest in a Negative Pole. The Negative Pole is the starting gate. For the Exalted Attitudes to become whole in perspective, they must often experience SHOCK to move beyond the Negative Pole. For the Ordinal Attitudes to become whole in perspective, they must often experience SURPRISE to move beyond the Negative Pole.

      [Question] Somehow I get a feeling the world is in for a dose of both shock and surprise. How would you differentiate between the two, in this sense?

      [MEntity] We realize those terms may sound similar, but they are not: Shock is like a wall that halts one's perspective, whereas Surprise is like an invitation to go beyond the wall. The Ordinal Attitudes are not easily Shocked, but are quite intrigued by Surprise. The Exalted Attitudes are not easily Surprised, but can destroy walls of isolating, insular, or delusional perspective when Shocked. 

      [Question] and the Neutral Attitude of Pragmatism?

      [MEntity] As usual, the Assimilative Attitude/Overleaf would tend toward whichever is more relevant to the experience. In other words, in the context of Relationships, a Pragmatist may require Shock, whereas in the context of Career, a Pragmatist may require Surprise. 

      [QUESTION] How might we try to find peace and compassion with ourselves, our peers, and the world, rather than focusing on fear and despair, even when it feels like the world either is, or is about to, burn around us?

      [MEntity] We will say that the key to wholeness for the older soul in terms of interpretation, perspective, and possibility is to always ask WHAT IS THE TRUTH. Speculation IS NOT the truth, on any Level. If it is NOT the truth, then fear, panic, defense are completely useless and unwarranted. So while one might speculate that the current events may indicate leading toward disastrous futures, it is important to realize that this is SPECULATION, and that your center of power is only Now, which is not just a concept, but a point in time and space that is precise. That precise point of Now allows one to emphasize making the choices, actions, and feelings that can help steer reality in directions one prefers. 

      [Question] Isn't truth relative to the perspective of the person who sees something as their truth? In which case, searching for truth is like searching for a moving and constantly changing target?

      [MEntity]
      That is why we said that speculation is never the truth on any level. Speculation is Speculation. Reality and truth are what you choose for it to be. However, what is true for you must be explored in terms of what is valid personally, globally, and/or universally for it to be a whole truth. For instance: it may be a Personal Truth that you are concerned about the future of the planet based on what you see occurring around you. The TRUTH is that you are concerned, the rest is interpretation; speculation. The future of the planet is not involved in any way beyond the speculations that prompt your concerns. The future of the planet as you see it is still only one of billions of possibilities. So what one can do in that situation is to ask:

      A) am I using the news as a means of Recruitment? In other words, am I only emphasizing certain things in life that confirm what I've already decided is true? 

      B) How can I use this concern to effectively address that which I am concerned about? 

      It is true that "reality and truth are what you choose for it to be," but as older souls, it becomes important to validate those truths against the reality and truths that are independent from your preferences, interpretations, and prejudices. So while you may feel it is true that the world is headed toward demise, it would be helpful to explore all of the educational materials that not only address the problems, but suggest solutions, so that your perspective is not a conclusion, but a piece of a process. Simply deciding what is true and real does not make it true or real to any significant degree beyond yourself. This is why people are drawn to either rest in the Recruitment reflected in news or through other people so as to sustain what has been decided as true and real, or they move beyond this into Intimacy so that they can expand beyond prejudices, preferences, and interpretations. 

      "Reality" is only as "real" as one concludes/defends it, or explores/expands it.

      AN EXPERIMENT: We can suggest to all of our students as an experiment on reality to play with the idea that you may be "wrong" about what you know is true. In other words, encourage yourselves to move beyond what you have concluded or found familiar, and stretch into the "what if's" of your world.

      For instance, if you are dissatisfied with your work environment and have concluded that you are surrounded by Younger Souls who simply do not "get you," you can experiment with "what if" questions that seed changes in your experience of that reality. Such as "what if... I let it be okay that they do not get me?" "What if... it is I who does not get them?" "What if... I not let their interpretation of me decide my experience of my day?" 

      Or if one is bombarded with news of the British Petroleum oil geyser that clearly implies a long-term consequence, and one puts into perspective the history of unconscious dependence on limited resources, instead of one allowing this to be the conclusion about reality, one instills alongside one's concerns the "what if" experiment: "What if... this event helps change everything for the better of the world in terms of resources and responsibilities?” "What if... this is only indicative of one business model and mistake?" "What if... necessity is the fuel of invention, and I trust that someone, somewhere, is on this with a solution that may shorten the impact of this event?" The reason we suggest this experiment is because you already do this, but most often in the direction of demise. "What if... this is the end of the world?"

      All of you play the "what if..." experiment, but it is only when those "what if's" are interpreted as conclusive, or when they are limited to one end of the spectrum of possibilities that one has lost wholeness of perspective. Challenge your default "what if's" and see what happens. 

      [INTERJECTION] To which degree should this be taken? I mean, I could declare the world to be a donut, but know it not to be true.

      [MEntity]
      If one wants to experiment with "what if... the world is a donut?" we would be curious as to what you found in your results.

      Our point, in general, is that only what you currently experience, and what is currently happening around you, however you interpret it, is "the truth" on some level. Everything else is speculation and possibility.

      [Question] So many people (including many Michael students) are talking about a shift coming for “2012” with “big changes”. Every news event is another "portent". This seems to me to be antithetical to the very idea “all is choice” – what would be served by a massive, instant jump in “awareness” or consciousness level or whatever. Wouldn’t this kind of thing take away the opportunity for younger souls to work through their growth naturally. It seems like magical thinking to me, that somehow the planet will leap up to be more in tune with older souls. Is that the attraction to the idea?

      [MEntity]
      Every Soul Age has its own ideas about any "leap forward" in consciousness, if that concept is even on the radar for them. That the world would leap forward into sync with older souls might be an attraction to older souls, but certainly not to younger souls. 2012 as a period of accelerated shift is appealing to Old Souls for various reasons, but mostly as a means to fulfill a longing for Resonance with the whole of the world in a way that has been impossible for all of that Soul Age. You are a minority, and however fulfilling it is for each of you to find one another, to bond here, to know that others exist like you, it is naturally painful to also know that you are so "not like" anyone else in so many ways. 

      The irony in this longing for Resonance that is prompting many older souls to find the 2012 projections appealing, is that the Old Soul feels this way, even when surrounded by the most like-minded and intimate of souls. This feeling is simply part of the process of Essence evolving beyond the Physical Plane. As the profundity of realization by Essence that it is part of an Entity, the profundity of isolation that a Personality can feel becomes awesome and terrifying. 

      It might be thought that as one grows older in soul age that the profundity of death and evolution becomes embraced, but it is often quite the opposite. It becomes terrifying for the first time in a way that is indicative of true comprehension by the current Personality that it is one of many, and finite. Once that terror is processed, Cycling Off is fairly close in reincarnational terms. The Old Soul that has truly processed this terror is neither flippant about death, nor dismissive, but deeply compassionate about its spectrum of impact. 

      We elaborate upon this because it helps to put into perspective that it is not your minority status of Soul Age that lends you a sense of isolation or lack of feeling intimate with your world; it is only you who does that, and even in the most accommodating of cultures and worlds, you can feel this way. This elaboration can also help lend insight into why the Old Soul might find it appealing to focus on some fantastical portal or scheduled shift that promises that the world might "catch up" to their perspective, or lend relief to their isolation and private misery. 

      When the Old Soul realizes that no world shift, acceleration of consciousness, or global ascension will relieve him or her from the responsibility for his own presence, perspective, and power, then he or she is once again free. This Old Soul would be free from overwhelming emphasis on isolation, loneliness, and terror, and move to simply allow those experiences as a part of the spectrum of life. 

      That being said, shift does happen, but it is almost always long-term, gradual, propagated, and not sudden, obvious, scheduled, or imposed.

      When a group "shift" of consciousness is sudden, it is almost always short-term and specific to a group of souls who intend to exit that lifetime shortly after that shift. For instance, much of Cadre 9 "shifted" at once in various soul ages/levels during the event known as "9/11." 

      We are fairly certain that some groups will impose various make-shift "shifts" upon others within December of 2012 in some way, and many will use those fabricated shifts as points that prompt personal acceleration, be it material, intellectual, emotional, spiritual, but we know of nothing "magical" on the horizon beyond the sheer magic that is already life. 

      The loss of a job, a car crash, a terminal illness, a fulfilling relationship, a leap in career, and even a good mood can be one's "2012" or shift that accelerates one into new perspectives and levels of consciousness, but these cannot, and are not, scheduled on any global or cosmic calendar.

      [Question] At the risk of getting a causal plane ruler slap to the Earth knuckles, here goes: I get the feeling like there is some major event pending for the early November 2010 time frame. Would Michael care to comment on what has the largest probability, perhaps geopolitical wise, and how that would affect us around that time frame?

      [MEntity] The most-significant probability that we can see for that period of time would be the likely death of a rather prominent political figure. That is not a prediction, but merely a response that describes a higher probability based on current patterns.

      [Question] from the US or otherwise?

      [MEntity] Yes, a United States politician, or at least involving one prominently. In other words, if the leader of North Korea were to die, it might be that a prominent United States politician is presumed directly involved.

      [Question] natural or unnatural?

      [MEntity] Natural or Unnatural are not details within the probabilities available to us at this time.

      [Question] Current potential outcome of the gulf disaster, given what we know at this stage?

      [MEntity]
      The highest probabilities we can see for that situation are that it acts as a catalyst for implementing alternative energy resources in one vein; is a reworking of laws for corporations in another vein; and a prompting for key members of the next generation to "never let this happen again." All of these “veins” appear to have high potential for combining ideals that are a part of the Vector toward a Resource-based Economy/World, while accommodating/bridging from the outdated ideas of a Debt-based Economy/World.

      In terms of planetary impact, it is rather minor, though that is in a grand context and is not stated to minimize the painful or direct impact it has on those currently affected. We simply state that the world will move on, adapt, and eventually find this to be another blunder in history.

      [Question] given that it was an accident (or was it), how do you "never let it happen again"?

      [MEntity]
      It does appear to have been an “accident”, and how a generation might "never let it happen again" would include moving beyond resources that would ever generate this kind of "accident."

      The greatest solution we can see as taking priority in the probabilities ahead that would keep the world moving toward a Resource-based Economy would be the combination of all ideas for alternative or complementary power sources that are marketable and currently viable, allowing for individuals, households, and complexes to choose from wind, water, and solar. There is not a single alternative that stands as the solution, but the combination and appropriate implementation of one or more alternatives, relative to geographic compatibilities.

      We must conclude here. Our channel is done. Goodbye.
    • Janet
      By Janet
      Michael Speaks

      011010

      TOPIC CHAT (new format)

      Self-Karma
       
      MEntity:
      Despite the complexities that can be involved in Self-Karma, the actual concept, exploration, and resolution are quite simple. That is not to say that the process is "easy," but that describing these elements is fairly simple.

      First, we will define Karma as "any form of intensity (imbalance) as a result of interference to your capacity for Choice." Interference of Choice is not the only criteria for generating Karma. There must be an intensity, or imbalance, generated from at least one party, and most-often the party who suffered the loss of Choice.

      The sudden increase for capacity of Choice is also a form of Karma, if intensity is generated. We describe this as Philanthropic Karma, and this form of Karma "feels good," but it is Karma, nonetheless, as it interfered with Choice and generated intensity.

      When Karma is generated, "Ribbons" are formed as a means to track those intensities. Those Ribbons connect among the Instinctive Centers of all who are involved. It might be more accurate to describe these as "tuned frequencies" that do not lose track of the members of that frequency, but we feel that "ribbons" is easier to image.

      The resolution of Karma is in the "burning" of the "ribbon," or neutralizing that frequency.

      The burning of ribbons is always done through role reversal, either with the parties from each side reversing positions, or from the party who generated the karma reversing his or her own actions that generated the Karma.

      A simplified example of each might be: Reversing Positions = you kill someone, that someone kills you. Reversing Actions = you kill someone, you then save that someone in a later life.

      We realize that we have been sharing the details about our perception of Karma, but this is helpful in understanding your Self-Karma because much of the same dynamic applies.

      We will define Self-Karma as being "a dual position within that interferes with your own capacity for Choice, and generates intensity, or imbalance." Often these are also described as "Issues."

      ALL Self-Karma is contained within a single lifetime and does not carry over in the same way that Ribbons do among fragments. Self-Karma is generated by the Personality within the lifetime. However, Self-Karma can show up as patterns for an Essence, because Essence designs each Personality, and often the patterns of exploration sought by Essence generates similar opportunities across lifetimes for each Personality that tends toward certain Self-Karmic issues. If a Personality resolves his or her Self-Karma within a lifetime, that Self-Karma is usually not repeated, because Essence then has a completed set of new data from which to use for creating a lifetime. Since Essence learns through Personality, it can only progress beyond certain Self-Karmic patterns when a Personality finally figures out how to resolve the issue. That is not to say that a pattern does not repeat, but that it is rarely repeated. When we say that it is not repeated, we are speaking about a specific Self-Karma, but that issue may be a part of a larger category of Self-Karma, which we will explain in a moment.

      If you are alive, you most-likely have Self-Karma. Self-Karma is so common a development among Personalities that even the hosts for the Transcendental and Infinite Souls carried Self-Karma. However, in the cases of Transcendental and Infinite Soul hosts, the Self-Karma is always resolved within the lifetime.

      Self-Karma is generated in four categories of your life, which mirror the Axes of our Overleaf System. It would be more accurate to say that Self-Karma is generated in one or more of your four "bodies" that mirror the Axes of our Overleaf System: your Intellectual, Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual/Instinctive Bodies. These categories can help you to identify your Self-Karma by where, how, and when you find yourself divided in a way that interferes with your capacity for Choice.

      Self-Karma is often paralyzing in its effects. When we say "paralyzing," we include those uncontrollable compulsions that force a choice even when you "know" is not a choice you would prefer to make. We include non-choice, refusal to choose, or the fear to choose, as a means to suspend yourself between two or more choices, as forms of paralyzing.

      What we will share now is a simple exercise for identifying your Self-Karma in a way that allows for tangibility so that resolution can be made, if you choose to pursue such an endeavor.

      Draw up a chart in a way that creates the four categories, or bodies: Intellectual, Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual.

      With merely a glance at your life, considering each category, it might be fairly easy to identify at least one Self-Karma from each category.

      You could translate each category into a way to help your examination, such as: Expression, Inspirational, Action, and Assimilliation areas of your life. Assimilation might be better understood as your "Learning" or "Comprehension," or the "Lessons" are of life.

      Another translation: my world view; my relationships; my body; my spirit.

      Questions to pose for each category, regardless of how one translates that category might sound something like:
      "What do I get the most upset about in this category?"
      Or "In this category, what experience repeats for me that keeps me from making the choices I want to make?"
      Or "In this category, where do I wish something else would change before I can make a choice that I prefer?"
      Or "In this category, to what do I tend to overreact?"
      Or "In this category, what triggers reaction in me?"
      Or "What frustrates me the most about myself, others, life in this category?"

      At first, your examination may bring up broad categories, and that is a good place to start, but you would eventually want to narrow it down to specific triggers or situations. For instance, you may feel that issues of INJUSTICE is a large context that carries triggers for you, but upon closer inspection, you may find that you are really only triggered when someone does not comply to your way of thinking, or agree with you, or celebrate your passionate stance with the same passion. This might indicate that your issues are not so much about Injustice, but about "Being Right" or "Being Superior."

      Once one has identified a Self-Karma, then the work of resolution can begin. Resolution is found when there is no longer a sense of division, and your choice is completely owned by you. We will give a very simple example:

      A fragment identifies that she has "issues" with her body image, detailing that she feels ugly because she does not lose weight, but does not do the work of losing that weight. This would fall under BODY, or Physical. The broader category would be "Body Image," but she might find she is triggered in instances where she is going to be social or intimate.

      Her Self-Karma then might be the division within that says she is beautiful just as she is, as long as no one sees her. Being "Beautiful As I Am" means to her to never having that concept challenged, so she remains isolated and secluded to sustain that version of herself. Being "As Beautiful as Others Prefer" would mean shaping the body into a new form, which means exercise, diet, and patience, but this is in conflict with "Beautiful As I Am," and to follow through in that direction might mean she really is not beautiful as she is, so reprimanding, self-punishment, self-hate, repulsion replace diet, exercise, and patience. She remains at home, or secretly isolated internally, even when in social situations.

      The resolution would come only when she MAKES THE CHOICE in one direction or the other, and allows herself to own that choice. If she chooses to "Be Beautiful As I Am" then it would require the work of self-acceptance, self-kindness, accentuating all that is felt to be beautiful, internally and externally, and to build upon that. She would celebrate the beautiful in those people and things that she knows as beautiful beyond any standard in entertainment or social media. She would allow for all forms of beauty, knowing that this is a subjective matter, and never something that can be standardized.

      If she chooses to "Be as Beautiful as Others Prefer," then she would own the steps necessary to go down that path, and begin a commitment to exercise, diet, patience, and a reality-check that she cannot transform her body to be exactly as someone else's, but that she can make it the best it can be. She would embrace the fact that she may not please everyone, but focus on moving her body into a state that is pleasing to herself. She is simply taking care of herself.

      In short: the Self-Karma is a division that could be described as "Accept my self as I am/Improve upon my self-image." The resolution is to choose one of those and to own all that goes along with that choice.

      The irony is that in the commitment to one or the other, BOTH are ultimately included; hence the resolution. Neither side of the division is left behind.

      Accepting yourself as you are automatically includes an upgrade to your self image. Improving upon your self-image automatically brings a kindness to the process that is an acceptance for who you are all along the way of your improvement. Improving yourself in your own eyes automatically improves your representation of yourself to others, thus improving yourself in their eyes, as well. Improving yourself in a way that others may find appealing often leads to clarity about what must be improved in your own eyes.

      When choosing a direction for commitment to resolution, it is often more beneficial and efficient to choose the direction over which you have the most control. For instance, taking the route of "Accept Myself As I Am" is far more within the control of that person than if she were to entirely depend upon the external factors for gauging her progress. Both paths could work, but this is why many teachings encourage one to start with the self, since that is where one has the most control, and is almost always guaranteed success. Choosing to go in a direction of lesser control that requires others to comply to your ideal is still a valid path, but a more complicated and challenging path, with less-likely successes.

      The more time and care given to your examination of your Self-Karma, the more quickly and easily the resolution might come because the solutions are often within the issue, itself.
       
      **************Q&A***************
      Are there different gemstones with their frequencies that might be utilized to help neutralize the energies of these four self-karma categories?
       
      MEntity:
      If it is understood that these gemstones are merely a supportive energy, and not an energy that actually does the work for you, then there are stones that might help some fragments receptive to that energy. To understand how these work, it might be helpful to think of each gemstone as being a light of specific color, and when that light is shined into your space, it can highlight certain things. It is not that the stone is actually "doing" anything other than being itself. A flashlight in the dark is not magic, but it can certainly improve one's capacity for seeing. And so it is with such tools as gemstones.

      With that being understood, the most common stones available for helping support in the process of Self-Karma might be:

      Rose Quartz or Pyrite for Physical/Body Issues
      Amethyst Quartz or Citronite for World View/Intellectual/Expression issues
      Tourmaline or Jades for various Learning/Comprehension/Instinctive Issues
      Tiger's Eye or Azurites for Emotional/Relationship Issues

      These stones may help to highlight the areas prone to opportunities for resolution, but they will not resolve the issues for you, or soothe them.

      There is validity to frequencies generated from inanimate objects, especially from those directly of the planet, but as with any tool, it is what you do with them that makes the difference, not necessarily the properties of that object. A hammer is just a hammer until one picks it up to use with intent, and that intent can have a multitude of outcomes.

      How do you deal with cases where manifesting is involved and appears to interfere with the resolution? For example: If the woman above decides to get in shape, but then injures herself or gets into a car accident that hurts her back. How to avoid or get past that? I see it a lot.

      MEntity:
      The Self-Karma would remain, as well as the resolution, regardless of circumstances along the way. To make this clearer, we will use an example of a man who has lost his legs who feels he is worthless without being able to walk. The Self-Karma is not in whether he can walk, or not, but in how he experiences whether he can walk, or not. If he is divided to such an extent that it paralyzes his capacity for choice, then he has generated Self-Karma. If he embraces his experience, or if he commits to rising above it, then the Self-Karma is resolved.

      For the woman who has hurt her back after committing to improving the health of her body, she can still commit to the improvement of her health and body.

      When a commitment in one direction of resolution comes with great obstacles, or surprise obstacles, or challenges, the commitment itself must inherently make room for all of the possibilities of that path, or it is not a commitment.

      Is there a way of avoiding or lessening the chances of that happening in the first place? It seems to me that it happens when someone forces themselves towards one choice without being ready?

      You are correct that "forcing a choice" is still included in Self-Karma, as we described it as a compulsion. And that is a good point for differentiation:

      Resolution comes from EMBRACING YOUR CHOICE, not FORCING your choice. Forcing a choice leads to complications that compound the Self-Karma. Embracing a choice means absolute permission to explore that choice on your own terms at your own pace, and with an invitation to Essence, your friends, your loved ones for support in that choice.

      Forcing a choice is usually marked by intensity and often secrecy.

      Embracing a choice is usually marked by a gentleness and an openness without shame.

      That is not to say that embracing a choice would avoid any surprises, but that embracing a choice inherently brings the strength of adaptability.

      In addressing self-karma through another channel once, you told me to consider my greatest concern in life and I'll be on my way to identifying my self-karma... then you asked me "how satisfied are you with your response to friendship". Would you elaborate a little more on the why of that particular question and how it relates to my self-karma?

      MEntity: For examination on a broader level, we would ask about the "greatest concern in life," and this would allow one to find his or her most pressing issue/s. Following this with a question about relationships would help to identify a category. That question would have been asked if we suspected it may be helpful to look into your Emotional or Relationship Category for refinement of that exploration.

      Thank you, good evening! Could you please give an example of, and resolution to, a spiritual self karma? Would perfectionism be a spiritual self karma?

      MEntity:
      A broad example of a Spiritual/Instinctive Self-Karma might be those issues associated with Guilt and Shame. A specific Spiritual Self-Karma within Guilt or Shame might be in the experience of being an Old Soul among family members who are Baby and Young, and having to deal with this in a way that does not leave you feeling divided between "being yourself" and "compromising just to keep the peace." In that case, the choice would be between "being yourself" and letting others deal with that, or "Compromising to keep the peace" as a means of dealing with it on your own. The resolution would be in the fact that regardless of which choice you make, you are ALWAYS "yourself," and no context changes that, regardless of the facet you choose to bring forth appropriately or strategically.

      In an example you gave, - which is EXACTLY me, lol, and started with back injuries, are both options you gave equally valid for truly resolving the issue? Using that example, what happens if you improve yourself and then later on you end up backsliding or being injured, etc and are once again feeling overweight and unattractive? It seems like loving yourself as you are resolves the situation, whereas changing your body, while healthier physically, could be undone.

      Self-Karmic resolution is immediate and permanent and not based upon conditions. If the motivations for improving upon the body as a path to resolution is conditional upon reaching some conclusive state that will only THEN be satisfied, then it is merely a perpetuation of the Self-Karma. If one were to choose to improve upon the body as a means for reaching a state considered "beautiful," it would have to include kindness, patience, and a devotion to the self in a way that naturally translates into "beautiful as you are along the way." The embrace of the commitment to improve upon the body as a means to reach a greater state of beauty would mean that you are merely at one point in that spectrum of beauty, rather than its needing a finish line to cross.

      Another way to understand when one is in Resolution is when you know your choice is because you WANT to make that choice, not because you feel you HAVE to make that choice.

      "I HAVE to make this choice if I want to be beautiful" is not a choice that resolves Self-Karma. "I HAVE to accept myself as I am in order to feel beautiful" is equally imprisoning. In this case, it would be helpful to understand that the ideal of beautiful cannot be reached without creating steps along the way that are seen as beautiful to you. Much like building a brick house, it must be completed brick by brick. It is never helpful to deny that it is a brick house simply because it is not to a point where you feel you can live in it. For instance, the simple decision to "try to like how I look today" is a beautiful decision. It may not stick, but for now, it is beautiful. The more "for now" moments of beauty you extract from your experiences will add to the materials that build your ideal structure of beauty. The decision not to eat a certain way for the day because you feel this contributes to your better health is a beautiful decision, even if you do not choose that the next day. For now, it is beautiful.

      Those simple moments build into a matrix that helps to generate moments that are far more pivotal toward resolution.

      So you often surround yourself with 'conditions' when you are experiencing self-karma?

      MEntity:
      Oh yes. Depending on the extent and depth of the Self-Karma, the more conditional your existence. "I can be beautiful as I am, as long as I am invisible." Those "conditions" generate a false reality, and that is what gets exhausting, not the actual process of resolution. Sustaining a false reality as a means to balance the divisions within is literally exhausting. All Self-Karma can be resolved in an instant once the truth of the absolute superficiality and uselessness is comprehended.

      ALL Self-Karma are simply forms of self-discipline that have gone awry in the self-parenting process. Or put another way, generated during the Third Internal Monad.

      Is the majority of self-karma generated during or through the 3rd IM or are their other times/experiences that generate a certain amount of self-karma as well?

      MEntity: Self-Karma is almost entirely generated during the Third Internal Monad, and complicated or refined over the rest of the life. For instance: there may be the experience of being rejected based on appearance, which prompts one to be very concerned about appearance, which then becomes a divide within that acceptance is based heavily upon appearance, which then becomes specific to certain body parts, or spreads to include the entire body.

      So it might be useful looking at the experiences surrounding the 3rd IM in order to help identify some of the behaviours that are self-karmic? Find their genesis, so to speak, and understanding what has given rise to them, be able to put them into a more proper perspective?

      MEntity:
      It is not necessary to understand from where or when these were generated. It will never matter where or when these were generated, as it is the current "you" who make the choices now. It would be similar to trying to understand when, where, and why you have brown hair. It does not matter. You have the choice to embrace that color, or to change it.

      We pointed out the time frame of origin as a means to point out that many of these issues are "teen age" or "young soul" levels of issues, or even younger, and that their bearing has little validity or relevance to you as an adult or older soul.

      Self-karma is created by ourselves and not circumstances or others...

      MEntity: Correct. It is created when one interferes with one's own choices to the point that it generates a divide within.

      Thanks Michael. You've touched on some of this already, but here's my original question/s: Could you comment on how Self Karma tends to be experienced across all soul ages, or is it more likely to be confronted by us as we mature in soul age?

      MEntity: If you are alive, you most likely experience Self-Karma. Most Self-Karma is relative to the predominant Soul Age for your planet, or your current society within which you were nurtured.

      So there are links to Social/Cultural soul age?
      Relative...?

      MEntity:
      All Soul Ages experience Self-Karma, but it is true that there are emphases within each: Infant and Old tend toward Spiritual Issues; Baby tends toward Intellectual/Expression Issues; Young tends toward Physical/Body Issues; and Mature toward Emotional/Relationship Issues.

      Though Old tends toward Spiritual Issues, they are prone to taking on the predominant issues of the times, and can run that gamut of issues across the soul ages, depending on what is of interest for exploration that has never been resolved.

      Most Old Souls that we know of have yet to resolve Self-Karmic issues remembered from their Young Soul days and are finally "getting around to them" now. That is because the current society fully supports Young Soul issues involving appearance, body, health, etc. When most of you were in your Young Soul days, your "Baby" or Intellectual/Expression issues were most explored.

      We would also point out that now that the planet is technically Mature Soul, newer generations would generate their Self-Karma during the Fourth Internal Monad. In an Old Soul Society, these would be generated during the Fifth Internal Monad. The predominant Soul Age during the lifetime usually indicates when the Self-Karma is generated, and though it can also indicate what kind, it is not necessarily limited to that.

      Does this mean we would have to wait for society to catch up to work through mature and old soul issues?

      MEntity: No, we simply speak about the practicality of the times, since Self-Karma is generated and contained within the single Personality, which is most-often imprinted by the current society, but anyone can work on anything at any time.

      Oh, I misunderstood -- there are four categories of Self-Karma, but one only develops an issue within one category during any given lifetime?

      MEntity: No. The time frame for when they are usually generated is fairly consistent, and it can indicate the root of many issues, but could include issues from any category.

      In your response to another question, you mentioned that one must choose between being themselves and compromising to keep the peace. How do you accept that finding that compromise may never occur and to be accepting that your best attempts to rectify a situation will never be enough while accepting that the consequences of the failure of another will happen to them, without it creating the self-karma of guilt or shame? I seem to have this type of pattern repeating through the past five or ten years for me and I'd really like to break it somehow.

      MEntity:
      We see that is a helpful question that addresses the nature of resolution when it is valid. In this case, if one were to choose to compromise for the sake of keeping the peace and does not experience this compromise as an assault against one's being, but finds that compromise still does nothing, then the the point of Being Oneself is still intact, as it is clarified that no amount of compromise makes a difference, and that the issue was never about one's Being. From that space within the original resolution, it would be a matter of decisions based on what to do with these individuals, and not to do with oneself.

      This may lead to another layer of Self-Karma because it might get to the Self-Karma one might have about who "should love me, no matter what." Do you endure the suffering within their presence as a means to receive potential love, or do you remove yourself from those people who should love you.

      In short, it might move into issues about where love, and what love, is in your life. Is it more loving to remove yourself from the exhausting exchanges, or is it more loving to allow room for their lack of love for your presence as you choose to love anyway.

      In most instances where one feels one must continually endure the presence of another while feeling exhausted and even damaged, then the question is not about love, but about Rights.

      Could you explain further on your definition of Rights?

      MEntity: We will include our Map of Rights in the final transcript, but as an example: every fragment has the Right to Love and Be Loved, and this Right is either supported or removed in the process of a lifetime. So it might be a question of whether those who refuse to love have more of a right to your love than you do?

      Just curious about the obstacles to resolution of self-karma...what tends to keep us from resolving them? Are these obstacles different for the various soul ages?

      MEntity:
      The most-common obstacles to resolution are boredom, specialness, and crisis management:

      Boredom is the result of rejection of Essence, and like a dog with anxiety cut off from his sense of resource, can chew off his own skin to keep busy with distraction.

      Specialness is a result of rejection of Uniqueness, and spends all of its energy seeking constant external validation for any sense of value. Uniqueness requires nothing for it to Be; it is inherent. Specialness requires constant feedback.

      Crisis Management is a result of rejection, or distortion, of one's strengths gained over the lifetime. It becomes far more familiar and routine to manage crises, or patterns of issues, than it is to use those strengths for managing the creation of the life, and new patterns of freedom.

      Boredom is usually linked to Self-Destruction and Greed; Specialness to Self-deprecation and Arrogance; and Crises to Impatience and Martyrdom.

      Put another way, Boredom often perpetuates Intellectual issues; Specialness perpetuates Emotional issues; and Crises perpetuates Physical Issues.

      That is a generality, but it is fairly consistent, keeping in mind that there may be layers within a Self-Karma.

      Could you give an example of Crisis Management in the final transcript? I am not sure I understand that one.

      MEntity: We can give an example now: It is much more comforting and familiar to, say, manage the trauma and pain caused by your struggling to accept an invitation where you feel your appearance will be scrutinized, than to simply go, or not. Crisis Management vs Life Management. Crisis vs Choice. Crisis vs Creativity.

      Hello Michaels & Troy! Initially I wanted to ask WHY self-karma arises and why would we ever want to interfere with our own choices to the point of generating a divide, but I understand that the channel may be tired by now, so will ask instead if you could give an example of the most typical form of self-karma for an Old soul?

      MEntity:
      We can answer both: Why one generates Self-Karma is simple to understand if one does not see it as such an imposition, but as a process of learning that moves from the experience of duality and into the experience of a spectrum, or wholeness. In every instance of Self-Karma there is duality, and in every resolution there is a spectrum, or wholeness. Self-Karma generates from over-simplifying, and Resolution comes from embracing complexity. In every lifetime, every Personality is born an Infant Soul in perspective, and seeks to not only return to the greater perspective already reached in previous lives, but to exceed that. However, this process includes a process from Duality to Spectrum, so to speak, so none escape that process.

      There is no typical Self-Karma for the Old Soul. If the Old Soul lives in an Old Soul world, then the Self-Karma might tend toward Spiritual issues as "typical," but otherwise, the Self-Karma tends toward the predominant Soul Age of the planet or environment.

      However, for the sake of example, a "typical" Old Soul/Spiritual Issue could be said to be the resolution between the fact of the current Personality as it exists among all Personalities across time for Essence. Recognizing the profundity of how small one really is in the scheme of things while seeking to retain a sense of identity, contribution, and participation can be terrifying.

      This is why we say that Old Souls learn through Terror.

      END OF CHAT
       
      Map of Rights: The original map referred to in this transcript is not currently available, but the seven basic rights are well covered in OMW: Tending to Your 7 Basic Rights.
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