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  • The 7 Stages of the 4th Internal Monad

    Janet

    Originally posted by Troy on 7/20/09, based on channeling posted on Yahoo list on June 17, 2001.

     

    This topic came up in our recent chat on July 13, 2009, and Michael mentioned that I would include a copy of some information about the 4th Internal Monad. This was channeled YEARS ago, so please be lenient with it. I think I need to go through an update some phrasing and grammar to match my own growth and clarity in channeling, but the gist is there. Enjoy!

     

    4th Internal Monad
    +self-realization -acquiescence

     

    MICHAEL:
    The Fourth Internal Monad is the personal measurement between what was “planned” for the lifetime and what has actually been accomplished to date, and what might now be accomplished based on momentum from the current position within the life. This is where the Personality and Essence become “permanently” aligned or not.

     

    The Essence is either allowed freedom of manifestation or it is rejected as a source.

     

    To make simple sense of this Monad, it is the “regaining of innocence”.

     

    This is where you integrate the childish aspects of you into the adult version of your life as you have become. If major changes are to be a part of the transition to a “smoother” life, these changes can be drastic and threatening to the Personality as judgment may spring forth that its own decisions from the past were “mistakes”. In reality, the decisions were not mistakes; they were simply experiences.

     

    These experiences, however harshly judged, have led you to a place of potential self-realization. It is your choice to co-create the changes (the positive passage through the Monad), or to resign yourself to being overwhelmed (negative passage).

     

    If this Monad can be seen as an opportunity to free the “child within”, then much is gained in your understanding of how to remain in the positive aspects of the passage. The hallmark of positive passage through this Monad is in freeing yourself from what you think you SHOULD do and, instead, discovering what you love to do, in terms of external reality fulfillment.

     

    We remind you that you WILL move through the entire spectrum of the Monad, Positive Poles and Negative Poles, as you progress. It is as necessary as breathing "in" and "out". Reminding yourself that the point of the negative pole is a means to “look at” what you might want to change, upgrade, or accept, will do much in freeing you from severe reactions and Chief Feature "tricks".

     

    Those of you who have not completed the 3rd Internal Monad successfully (from the Positive Poles), you may find yourselves having to “go back” to the struggle of learning psychological independence before you can move on. The 3rd Internal Monad deals with the fragment comprehending their independence from the source that supported them through the first part of their life. It is not whether a fragment still depends on their source or not, it is simply whether they recognize they are not defined by that source.

     

    A person who would not pass completely through a stage within a Monad will live within that frame of reference for the remainder of the lifetime. Incompleteness, or Negative Pole completion through Monad 4 would find the person living in relentless self-examination and criticism of their choices, possibly reverting to the past as a source of blame for their behavior. This fragment will always feel unfulfilled.

     

    We remind you that this information is shared as a map, not as another form of fear to be used against the self. If you are driving through a passage up a mountain-side and we would note that to certain routes would give your more challenge or diversion from the destination, this would not take from the absolute choices that you have. It is always possible to complete a Monad in the Positive Poles from any point within the life. You are never trapped beyond your willingness to progress.

     

    Here, then, are the seven stages of this Monad:

     

    Stage 1: INITIATION
    +enthusiasm -indifference

     

    Stage 1: This stage is hardly noticeable since you have only just placed your consciousness into the new context. This stage relates to the Instinctive Center, therefore “kicking in” the Monad without the individual being particularly conscious of this. Indications of the initial stage are usually marked by enthusiasm and anticipation. A simple delight in your potential future or accomplishments. Since this is simply a technical reference, and not really measurable enough to recognize, we suggest using the signs of the Second Stage as a starting point, possibly “working back” to a point where you might have seen the initial stages begin to manifest. Most will find there was a point when there was either a sudden enthusiasm that “something” was different, or a definitive point wherein the fragment feels further removed from its own life.

     

    This Stage, then, evaluates your sense of Trust.

     

    Stage 2: INTROSPECTION
    +awareness -brooding

     

    Stage 2: This stage is heavily marked by dread, anxiety, and intense Introspection. Depending on your resistance and your Overleaves, you may experience anything from a realization of your personal worth and a positive realization of your life's impact, or virtual self-implosion and self-degradation.

     

    Different cultures will respond to this Stage depending on parental upbringing and definitions of Authority. This is an introspective stage in the context of a Monad to evaluate accomplishments and plans, so there may be a processing of a Scary Parent or issues with Authority you have carried around being belittled for your “mistakes”, decisions and choices and expression. In that processing, you may experience a new sense of connection to “something” more like a Supportive Parent or Authority from within to gently nudge and concur with you through the life.

     

    This Stage evaluates your perceptions of Authority and your reaction to your sense of self-importance and self-value.

     

    Stage 2 brings up energy from the Emotional Center.

     

    Stage 3: REALIZATION
    +freedom -separation

     

    This Intellectually-centered Stage begins to release the ideas of the past as a source for the future. New ideas and identities will emerge here.

     

    Most realizations will be reserved for inner exploration, but, nonetheless, a change has taken place in how the individual views its expression as a part of a larger picture. On the more expansive side, one knows what must begin to be done, and starts to anticipate a general plan, not always with clarity, but with a certainty that “something must be done”. On the more constricting side, one begins to pull back from the future and “hide within”, or away from external reflections. This stage evaluates your perception of Responsibility. This Stage usually lasts the longest, especially in the Fourth Internal Monad, as you probe your beliefs.

     

    Stage 4: MANIFESTATION
    +purpose -otiose

     

    This Stage brings energy out through the Moving Center as you begin now to express to yourself, and others, more confidently what/who you are. In the context of the Fourth Monad, it is where you begin doing or, at least, pursuing/discovering what you are pulled to do as a reflection of your “contribution” and original Tasks. Successful movement through this is seen as a comfortable expression of your daily activities and endeavors.

     

    Resisting this Stage and remaining here would result in sluggishness, ineffective portrayals of self, and sometimes rage/anger in place of empowerment.

     

    This stage explores your concepts of Purpose.

     

    Stage 5: CONTENTMENT
    +satisfaction -contention

     

    Finally you begin to feel/see some satisfaction from your progress through the Internal Monad. In the context of the Fourth Internal Monad, whether you have completed or accomplished a Task becomes irrelevant against the contentment of what you choose to do.

     

    In this Stage, you realize the amount of density you have been containing and you begin to “lighten up” about your movement. In the positive pole you will see personal happiness now becoming a factor in your decisions, and in this Fourth Monad, you've released treasured securities found in the oppressive/elusive “big plan or PURPOSE”, and find this more appropriate guide. Otherwise, the negative pole finds an individual always at odds with their environment, always in a state of contention and debate about their worth/purpose.

     

    This stage evaluates your perceptions of Love. The Higher Emotional Center is highlighted here.

     

    Stage 6: MAGNETIZATION
    +attraction -repulsion

     

    In this Stage, you now begin to draw in your agreements, Karma, and Support for new perspectives, or reconnect/stabilize existing ones. The positive pole maintains clear communication, acknowledgment of Traveling Companions, and a more accurate view of the future. You now see with clarity the long-term impact of your efforts alongside the current “demands”. Those who find themselves in a state of rejection, isolation, and depression, have chosen to experience the negative pole. A sense of deep longing begins to unfold in the negative pole of Stage 6, since so much has been deemed “unacceptable”.

     

    This stage opens you to your perceptions of Truth.

     

    Stage 7: EMANATION
    +alignment -incongruity

     

    In this stage you find the peace of routine that becomes you. A sense of wholeness returns and “getting back” to your life. In the positive pole, alignment occurs with Essence; in the negative pole, life becomes incongruous and sporadic in nature, with no bearing. Regardless of the pole, you will emanate your sense of self at that point with no resistance.

     

    This stage engages your Higher Moving Center, and examines Beauty, or Energy.

     

    It is important here to note that a completion of the Monad does not necessarily mean a “positive” completion. In most cases where the negative pole becomes emphasized, completion is not reached due to the internal degradation and combustion that occurs along the way. Many do complete the Monad, however, within parameters acceptable to them that would technically be regarded as the negative pole. This is the choice of the individual and has no bearing on their being a “good” or “bad” person; we do not say this, nor do we imply this. We merely state the differentiation between what is expansive and self aware, and what is not. The negative completion is not expansive or self-aware, relatively speaking.

    Edited by Janet


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      [GeraldineB] Healer, heal thyself 
      [Maureen] LOL
       
      [MEntity] "Falling in love" is very different from Love. Falling in love may be experienced as a pleasant state, but it is full of projections, expectations, and ideals that make it relevant for comparison to the STATE OF POTENTIAL. 
       
      [MEntity] If you prefer a different comparison, it can also be like the "world after graduation," or "the day with no plan," or for some of you, like entering a "haunted fun house in the dark."
       
      [Maureen] LOL
      [Diane_HB] lol
       
      [MEntity] We chose the comparison to "falling in love," but the STATE OF POTENTIAL also can be like "falling into fear."
       
      [Nadine_AP] lol...falling in love always felt like falling into fear for me...
       
      [MEntity] And then there is that.
       
      [MEntity] The STATE OF POTENTIAL is wrought with options and mixes and directions, all variations of Love and Fear.
       
      [Maureen] Michael -- do the Attitudes affect how one can get through the Stages? I can see how the Attitudes may play out. I'm a Realist -- I see so many factors that it’s daunting.
       
      [AnnH] Me, too, Maureen.
      [ClaireC] It's really easy for a Spiritualist to stay in Potential forever.  
       
      [MEntity] Understanding the State of Potential can help one to do two things: reclaim yourself as the source of the creation of your potential, and then to consciously choose more toward Love.
       
      [MEntity] This removes the "falling" part, and helps to put you back into the role of Creator.
       
      [Nadine_AP] How could I consciously choose more toward Love?
       
      [MEntity] Nadine, we will address questions shortly so that we can address each of you more personally. We suggest noting your questions as we go along, so we can return to them with you.
       
      [Nadine_AP] okay
       
      [MEntity] So, for some of you in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, in the Initiation Stage, your next step is some variation on CHOICE.
      [MEntity] The most effective way one can move into a next step when in the Initiation Stage, and in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, is to SIMPLIFY.
      [MEntity] Bring everything down to the simplest of facts, focus, and intention.
      [MEntity] When in the STATE OF POTENTIAL, it is helpful to go silent, to be still, to stop all distractions, and sit down with yourself and your intention.
      [MEntity] Physically write down your intention and all of the scenarios or potential, and you will see that it may not be as overwhelming or daunting or consuming as you thought or felt.
       
      [MEntity] What tends to happen is that one is in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, in The Stage of Initiation, and then thinks that the Discernment Stage is what comes next.
      [MEntity] This is the equivalent of stating that you have realized you can choose whatever you want, but have no clue from what options are you choosing.
      [MEntity] This is quite similar to how the Internal Monads work, in that if one exits the previous state/stage in a negative pole, then the next will remain there, as well.
       
      [MEntity] So if one does not consciously assess what options are available, what directions are preferred, what ideal is of interest, what results are being sought, etc., then the Discernment Stage tends to only emphasize everything that is lacking in potential.
       
      [MEntity] The daunting aspects are highlighted. The intensity is heightened. The doubts are amplified.
       
      [MEntity] Imagine that you have decided you want to create a beautiful dress, but completely bypass the process of exploring and narrowing down the possible fabrics from which to choose. You now move into the next stage and it becomes emphasized what you have not done and cannot do.
       
      [MEntity] However, if you have your 10 fabrics out in front of you and then move into the next Stage, you can now Discern, choose the ingredients that will become the dress.
       
      [MEntity] That simplification effort in the first stage as a way to sort out the state of potential drastically changes the process of discernment that comes next.
      [MEntity] This is true of relationships, projects, transforming habits, etc.
       
      [MEntity] It can take many years for one to realize that there are vital, but few, criteria for what one truly expects from an intimate relationship. For many years the State of Potential is riddled with the chaos of fantasies, projections, wounding, all of which are then emphasized upon entering the Discernment Stage because the commitment will not work or be fulfilled without those elements addressed.
       
      [MEntity] When one has consciously owned the role of source and creator of his or her potential, and then sorts out what is of interest from all of that potential, and uses choice as a way to navigate away from fear and toward love, the Discernment Stage then becomes a matter of refinement, not discouragement.
       
      [MEntity] The Discernment Stage is a process of emphasizing What Will Work, and What Will Not Work in regard to the commitment.
       
      [MEntity] If the work of sorting has been done, then the emphasis will tend toward What Will Work, though both what will work and what will not are always explored to some degree.
       
      [MEntity] And just like the Internal Monads, if you find that you are in a Stage of Discernment overwhelmed with discouragement, you can "go back" to your POTENTIAL and SIMPLIFY as a way to help move you back into refinement and encouragement.
       
      [Nadine_AP]: How could I consciously choose more toward Love?
       
      [MEntity] Sometimes the experience of choosing more toward Love is so unfamiliar (at least in terms of consciously doing so) that it can be much easier to simply NOT CHOOSE Fear.
       
      [MEntity] By "not choose fear," we mean that you actively utilize fear as a source of insight and information, but not as a source of direction or conclusion. 
       
      [Nadine_AP] yes, that makes sense! 
       
      [MEntity] If you are worried about the pressures of finance while seeking directions of career, then you have the capacity to resolve the conflict between doing what you CAN do for the sake of income, even as you aim for a more long-term move toward what you love. 
       
      [Nadine_AP] Wow, that helps a lot actually!
      [ClaireC] "Love is letting go of fear" (Attitudinal Healing)
       
      [MEntity] In doing something such as this, there is the choice toward love because you are taking care of yourself AS you create, rather than presuming that your taking care of yourself is a defeating move away from other options.
       
      [Nadine_AP] I understand. Thank you!
       
      [MEntity] We think this may be helpful to consider as a specific response for you, Nadine. We will continue on now for greater context for when you explore this further.
       
      [MEntity] Before we continue: how many of you feel you must return to the STATE OF POTENTIAL to SIMPLIFY and clarify?
       
      [AnnH] To an extent, yes.
      [Nadine_AP] I do.
      [GeraldineB] I don't -- I've got my goal as cut and dried as possible
      [Diane_HB] Not for the issue I have in mind.
      [Maureen] I need to return someplace -- because it's not working now...
      [Janet] No. I have written down my goal and I think I'm good.
      [ClaireC] I think I'm actually in Discernment now.

      [MEntity] Geraldine, the goal can be crystal clear, but this is only helpful if the projections, expectations, and fears have been addressed so that the Stage of Discernment is then encouraging, not discouraging.
       
      [GeraldineB] Let me clarify -- My Goal is to Stop Smoking. As part of my Discernment, I have a new month's prescription to take of Chantix, an aid to stopping smoking. Plus, this time, I've set a date: August 31, 2013. One of the reasons I'm going to push through this bad habit this time is due to health concerns; so, for me the "choosing with love," would be for myself. Should I add in a request for Essence and Guides to help? as in sending me positive thoughts when I'm wavering?
       
      [MEntity] We would agree with your assessment, but we added our comment for those who may think that the clarity of Goal is enough. The goal will draw one forward, but not necessarily toward a fulfilling conclusion, if the POTENTIAL has not been clarified for Discernment.
       
      [MEntity] We have gone into detail about this initial stage because this is where many may have to return as a means to move forward toward fulfillment of a goal, but we will quickly describe the remaining States as associated with the Stages.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Discernment has as its foundation a State of RECIPROCITY.
       
      [MEntity] While in the Stage of Discernment, the emphasis can splay widely between discouragement and encouragement, emphasizing what will not work, and what will work, often leaning toward one direction or the other, depending on the work in The Stage of Initiation.
       
      [MEntity] A key to the underpinning of this Stage is Reciprocity, or the circuit created through giving and receiving.
       
      [MEntity] What many tend to do in this Stage of Discernment is to shut down, recoil, hide, enter into waves of shame, embarrassment, or even instill a kind of taboo against the sharing of where one is in the struggle toward Stability.
       
      [MEntity] This is a Stage where many give up.
       
      [GeraldineB] oh, I know that one
      [Diane_HB] me too
      [Maureen] I;m too embarrassed to say "me too"  -- LOL
      [Diane_HB] lol
      [GeraldineB] LOL
      [ClaireC] lol
      [AnnH] yep
       
      [MEntity] However, the STATE OF RECIPROCITY is enhanced through the practice of giving and receiving, helping others to do what you wish to do, joining with others in similar directions, asking for help in your progress, allowing the help, etc.
       
      [MEntity] In an intimate relationship, it is about addressing what has come as differences between you that describe what is working and what is not working. 
       
      [MEntity] So for some of you in the STATE OF RECIPROCITY in the Discernment Stage, your next step is some variation on COMMUNICATION.
       
      [MEntity] The most effective way one can move into the next step when in the Discernment Stage, and in a STATE OF RECIPROCITY, is through SOPHISTICATION, the refinement of choice. This means you no longer simply react, do as you always do, or unconsciously push forward. It means you take a moment to think, to feel, to make a choice from consciousness, not defense or habit.
       
      [MEntity] The STATE OF RECIPROCITY and the Stage of Discernment is about learning, putting into effect, and implementing, all of which require communication and growing sophistication.
       
      [MEntity] Remember that the Stage may be completed, but the State carries forward, so RECIPROCITY will continue to be a part of the commitment, meaning that communication will end up being a vital ingredient in the fulfilled commitment.
       
      [MEntity] Giving and Receiving.
       
       
      [MEntity] More quickly then, the remaining Stages:
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Stability is supported by the STATE OF KARMA, or CAUSALITY.
       
      [Janet] I actually think I'm in Stability rather than Discernment now.
       
      [MEntity] This is where one truly begins to see the results of actions and efforts, and those actions and efforts are tweaked, modified, corrected, observed, etc.
       
      [MEntity] Before this, most of the commitment was in a more idealistic place, while Stability brings with it the momentum and realization.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related, then, to EFFORT. 
       
      [MEntity] And the effectiveness of that effort is supported by DEVOTION, which is the recognition that one's efforts are toward something of great value and worth.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Disruption has as its foundation a STATE OF SURRENDER.
       
      [MEntity] This is, basically, the embrace of the fact that "shit is going to happen."
       
      [MEntity] Sometimes there are forces greater than you that you cannot control, or that you allow to take control, in a way that interferes with your intentions. It happens.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to HONESTY, and that honesty is supported by AFFECTION, or the capacity to empathize, be kind, gentle, patient, etc.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Healing has its foundation a STATE OF PRESENCE.
       
      [MEntity] This is where you own your mistakes, own your process, your responsibility, your power, your intention, your choice, etc. Blame and excuse are useless here, and you recover from what knocked you for a loop.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to FORGIVENESS, and that forgiveness is supported by EVOLUTION, or the meaning that you attribute to your experiences.
       
       
      [MEntity] The State of Gratitude has as its foundation a STATE OF NON-ATTACHMENT.
       
      [MEntity] This is an ironic and paradoxical State where you begin to detach from that which has been a commitment, and experience it as a PART of you, not YOU. It is another thing, another person, another step, but they are a part of you, not YOU.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to APPRECIATION, and supported by WHOLENESS, or the awareness of being greater than the sum of parts.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Neutrality is supported by the STATE OF MOTIVATION.
       
      [MEntity] This is where one re-examines motives and intentions from a broader perspective.
       
      [MEntity] When this comes between other Stages, next steps tend to be related to REGROUPING, digesting the experiences, and this is supported by STRUCTURE.
       
      [MEntity] When this comes as final stage/state, it is a an assessment for whether to cycle back through the Stages, or to build upon those original motivations, creating new structures from that.
       
       
      [MEntity] Knowing these descriptions can help you to understand where you are in the stages, what states have been carried forward, and what keys are necessary for next steps and the support for those next steps.
       
      [MEntity] Did your sense of where you are in your progress change by seeing the details for each stage/state?
       
      [Janet] Yes, absolutely.
      [ClaireC] Absolutely.
      [AnnH] not exactly. but i often get caught up in discernment, anticipate disruption and give up
      [GeraldineB] it enlarged
       
      [MEntity] Do you feel you can orient yourself better toward an encouraging process?
       
      [GeraldineB] yes, I do
      [AnnH] yes.
      [ClaireC] Yes, and to recognize progress.
      [GeraldineB] I can at least let go of past "failures" -- treat this as a brand new experience
      [AnnH] yes
      [AnnH] good point, g
      [ClaireC] Geraldine, think of it as a U-turn, not a failure.
       
      [MEntity] We will open the floor to your questions now, but we encourage each of you to assess your own progress and process.

      [GeraldineB] I did have an earlier question
      [GeraldineB] Question: Is there an advantage for setting a NEW habit versus breaking an OLD habit?
       
      [MEntity] Our response to this is Yes. Breaking a habit can always be included in the process toward creating something more beneficial, but to aim only toward breaking the habit can similar to stating that you wish to travel, but never getting off of the train.
       
      [MEntity] It is nice to have a destination in mind.

      [AnnH] I find I easily get disracted, hopeless and overwhelmed. What do I need to assess and at what stage?
       
      [MEntity] These are symptoms usually associated with not leaving the STATE OF POTENTIAL, and remaining in the first stage, or of leaving that first stage in a "negative" way to carry forward into further stages. This means that the solution is simplicity and choice. 
       
      [MEntity] We do not seek to minimize the overwhelm or hopelessness or distraction by stating that the solution is so "simple," but we state this as a matter of those more challenging qualities being a part of the spectrum of possibilities from THE POTENTIAL, and they do not have be given such emphasis by choice.
       
      [MEntity] Note that these exist, that they are with you, but you do not have to choose them (as in, presume they are more important to honor than enthusiasm, willingness, importance, etc.).
       
      [MEntity] You may not feel you can choose against those emotions and surges in the body, but you can, and it is a matter of practice. It is your Right. 
      [MEntity] For help in your next steps, it may be of benefit to consider the difference between honoring your feelings and feeding them.
       
      [AnnH] aha--lol, yes.
       
      [MEntity] Choose not to feed them. Let them remain, do not reject them, but do not feed them. As you make different choices, your feelings will eventually feed on what you choose, and this begins the transformation.
       
      [MEntity] So, your next step is to learn how to choose your food, and to choose who/what to feed in you.
      [MEntity] This is simplistic, but fair.

      [Maureen] I can't even formulate a question because I feel too discouraged at this point. I'm normally optimistic about most everything -- so this state is very uncomfortable for me.
      [Maureen] I guess that's more of a statement than a question. 
       
      [MEntity] Then your next step would appear to be into the Stage of Neutrality. You must step back.
      [MEntity] Not only have you lost your Motivation, but you may have forgotten the value of the pursuit altogether.
      [MEntity] In this case, you would want to keep in mind that Neutrality is not giving up. It is not stopping. It is not failing. It is important. 
      [MEntity] Your next steps then are to stop trying, but with the intent to regroup, not give up.
       
      [Maureen] That sounds good Michael -- I'm tired of trying.
       
      [MEntity] Yes, and that is okay. Again, it is your Right. It is not defeat; it is a Right. Stop. Come back to it. It will be there.
       
      [Maureen] Thanks
       
      [MEntity] In some cases, this Neutrality must be modified from complete halt to, at least, giving some amount of attention and effort to the aim, so that will be up to you to consider the ratio for what and how the direction is accommodated without so much consuming of the self.
       
      [MEntity] Our brief responses in this format are not entirely helpful or effective, so we encourage each of you to communicate further in private with us on your progress, if you choose to do so.

      [Diane_HB] I think I'm in Discernment with my goal of improving eyesight. I'm still having a difficult time finding a process that works for me...after 10 years of trying on and off. I think I'm not seeing enough of a benefit to work harder at it -- the practices (particularly the one about keeping my glasses off) conflict with my lifestyle and personality. But I don't like it when my eyesight starts to get worse, so I keep trying. Any comments would be appreciated.
       
      [MEntity] You are in the Stability Stage. Your commitment now is a matter of CAUSALITY, experimentation, tweaking the process of effort. In this Stage, you would want to customize what is being learned to accommodate how it best works for you. During this Stage, you may also find that your eye sight is not such a bad thing after all, and that you discover that your embrace of this as part of you is far more accurate to the healing you were seeking. 
       
      [Diane_HB] Yeah, sometimes I wonder if I really need better eyesight. I just don't want it to get worse.
      [Diane_HB] Maybe that's what I can commit to -- maintenance.
       
      [MEntity] So your next step may be to continue your practice, your Devotion, but without the looming ultimate perfection or failure.
      [MEntity] Maintenance is a healthy term for how to move forward.
       
      [MEntity] We will conclude with a question from Claire.
       
      [ClaireC] Does one have to stick with a new programme until Stability is reached or not reached before abandoning it and going back to Discernment?  e.g. a new diet?
       
      [MEntity] We would not say that one "has to," but that it is a valuable part of the process. If you come to Stability, you can always tweak, replace, or complement your efforts.
       
      [MEntity] For example, if one were to start exercising, the strengthening of the muscles and the stretching of the tendons can bring aching for quite some time, leading one to consider scrapping the intentions. But once stability is reached, it is realized that the aching was symptoms of benefit, and that the exercises can be altered, replaced, mixed up, etc., but not necessary to halt.
       
      [ClaireC] Yes, that's true.  In the case of diet, it's not always evident if it's "working", I'm wondering how long changes in food take to affect Stability.
       
      [MEntity] Only if one finds that the path is harming the self does one want to consider halting the progress. 
       
      [ClaireC] Okay, that's a good guideline.  Thank you.
       
      [MEntity] In terms of diet, Claire, we suggest considering monitoring for any effects that are claimed as part of the result of the diet, giving it the amount of time you deem willing to give it. 
       
      [ClaireC] Good advice.  Thanks.
       
      [MEntity] Sometimes the changes caused by a change in diet are not always pleasant, at first, so understanding that a detoxifying process sometimes occurs can be helpful for some diets, and not scrapping the diet because one is suddenly with cramps and diarrhea. These phases tend not to last long. However, if you find a continued state of distress on the body because of a diet, you may 
       
      [MEntity] want to, at least, move into Neutrality until you understand if it is harmful or beneficial.
      [MEntity] We agree that a change in diet can be difficult to monitor for benefit because the body is so adaptable.
       
      [ClaireC] True.
      [ClaireC] Some people claim to feel great on a diet of junk food.  Then have a heart attack.  
       
      [MEntity] However, there do tend to be physical symptoms that help to give feedback about how one is eating, and this can be helpful for monitoring long-term changes in effect from diet. Depending upon the diet, we would suggest educating yourself about the claims of effects from the diet, and counterclaims.
       
      [MEntity] And decide from there.
      [MEntity] Your next step, then, might be education about the claims and also the counterclaims, or the facts vs the myths. 

      [MEntity] We must conclude here today.
       
      [ClaireC] Thank you for the great session, Michael and Troy.
      [Diane_HB] Thank you Michael!
      [Maureen] Thanks Micheal and Troy!!
      [Diane_HB] and Troy!!
      [AnnH] That was incredibly helpful. Thank you Michael and Troy
      [ClaireC] Really helpful!
       
      [MEntity] Good day to each of you. Regardless of what you decide to do in your next steps, the map we have described in the processes and progress, the states and stages, can be used as a reminder that you are not lost, not defeated, and not failing. You are moving forward as you can, and as you will. You are not done.
       
      [MEntity] Goodbye.
       
       
    • DanielaS
      By DanielaS
      July 1, 2004
      Troy Tolley, Channel
      Michael Speaks Online – Open Floor
       
      [Note: Here is the transcript from Thursday’s Chat! It was great! I have asked Michael for some clarification on some of it, so there is editing involved. Enjoy! Troy]
       
      [M Entity] Hello to everyone. We are here with you. Tonight we will open the floor to any questions or topics of interest to each of you as best we can. Troy has restrictions against personal questions, but if you have a way to present a question that is beneficial for all, we will attempt to respond accordingly.
       
      [kittlekats41] This is based on a personal experience, but I am interested in an answer that everyone can relate to: when we moved down to Atlanta we stopped overnight at a hotel. Upon arrival here [to Atlanta] the energy felt off-centered and discordant, which it hadn’t been before. One of the cats was especially vocal and restless. We determined that we had picked up a ‘stray’ energy that attached itself to us at the hotel with a number of others; we were able to clean the space and remove the energy into a better environment for it – an old tree that is grounded. The question is: a) how common is it for this type of experience to occur? b) how can we deal with it when it does? and c) are animals a common barometer to identify when it happens? That is my question:-)
       
      [M Entity]
      We would first respond that we would not describe any energy as “stray” that might attach itself to you randomly. We have rarely seen a case of energetic resonance that was not in some way “invited” or allowed. However, what you refer to as “hotels” and “motels” are full of what might accurately be described as “echo energies”. In other words, the emotional and intellectual imprints from the many fragments passing through a small space (which is assumed by fragments to be a sanctuary in many ways) can become literally “coated” with these “echoes” of energy. In the same way that there are “ghosts” of the dead, there are “ghosts” of the living, as well. “Ghosts” are merely echoes of energy, whether from the living or the dead.
       
      With all of that being said, your being affected by an echo is based on a particular resonance you must have had with that “echo”. It appears to us that you were in a space of deeper concern, worry, anticipation, and possibly anxiety, than you were in the previous trip.
       
      [kittlekats41] true
       
      [M Entity] This would naturally align you with any other fragment's concerns, worries, anticipations, anxiety that had left an imprint in that hotel room or location. This alignment then would naturally amplify your own energy, yet again, and because it then becomes disproportional to your original concerns, etc., it can feel strangely disconcerting and distracting.
       
      [kittlekats41] would that echo remain as a presence for a number of weeks afterwards and be detected by the animals?
       
      [M Entity]
      We will respond to your questions as quickly and as orderly as possible.
       
      The way you can “deal with this” is to consciously “clear the space” in any environment that has acted as a sanctuary for so many other fragments. Doing so upon settling into your room can greatly increase your experience of peace and temporary ownership of that space. A simple visualization of a colorful light of your choice sweeping through the room and clearing it of all darker or heavier energies is enough. It is not necessary to create an elaborate ritual; just a simple, conscious shifting of the room’s energy to accommodate you is enough. We would suggest avoiding rituals focusing on “protection”, as this simply amplifies a contrast between you and your space and does not effect a peaceful, restful shift.
       
      Animals are more sensitive to these echoes than most humans, but they are even more sensitive to the effects of the echoes on their human companions. In other words, your animal companion was responding to your own agitations than to the separate “stray energy” you theorized. The “echo” remains only in the space in which is imprinted, but the effects of that echo upon you can last for weeks. It was Good Work that you created time to transform that effect upon you and to ground yourself again.
       
      [BradburySE] I just have a question about the number of inputs for the various roles. It seems to be well known that Artisans have five inputs and Sages three, but how about the other roles? I've never seen this written anywhere.
       
      [M Entity] The “solid roles” of King, Warrior, and Scholar have a single input, while the inspirational roles of Priest and Server have 2 inputs.
       
      [H2OSprtlvr] We were talking about the 9/11 movie by Michael Moore and it was mentioned that he is a Sage and he had a reincarnation from Josiah Royce. This seems confusing to me that he is a Sage, because all the studying and fact finding is so Scholar. I was wondering where the Scholar might be in his personality, since Sages only want to have fun and are not into fact finding or writing books.
       
      [M Entity]
      First we will say that we have never said, nor have we implied, that Sages “only want to have fun” and that they are not “into fact finding or writing books”. This conclusion is highly simplified and inaccurate of the Sage and of the Scholar.
       
      The very Essence of a Sage is to find the Truth and then to disseminate what they have come to believe is true. In that search for the Truth, they will use any means possible. The stereotype of the Sage comes from the fact that in most cases a Sage's method of “fact-finding” and “writing books” simply ends up looking like so much more “fun”.
       
      By contrast, the Scholars have been responsible for some of the most influential and “beautiful” music on your planet. This could look contrary to the stereotype of the Scholar, but in fact the Scholar finds the connection between music and math to be one of the most beautiful aspects of life on earth and if that can be translated into music, they will try.
       
      We explain this to you to help contribute to your broadening understanding of the Roles of Sage and Scholar. This is not to say that the fragment now known as Michael Moore does not have Scholar influences, because, in fact, he actually does. This Sage is Scholar-Cast, with a Server Essence Twin.
       
      [H2OSprtvr] I realize I was stereotyping and I'm grateful for further clarification on the roles.
       
      [M Entity] Comparing the lives of Beethoven and Royce/Moore can give you great insight into the differences between how a Sage-Cast Scholar (Beethoven) vs. a Scholar-Cast Sage (Michael Moore) may act within a lifetime. In most cases, a Sage-Cast individual will behave more like the “stereotypical” Sage than a Sage with different Casting. Furthermore, in most instances when a fragment is behaving like one of the Essence “stereotypes”, it is usually an indicator of that person's Casting than of their Role.
       
      [BingeBuddie] I know this may seem like a very basic question, but I have had a hard time validating my role in essence. With so many factors to consider such as casting, ET influence, overleaves, and entity position, etc. is there any definitive way to determine your role? I’ve went with channels in the past, but that causes confusion because its difficult to tell what one input is as opposed to many inputs, such as Scholar having one and Artisan having 5. One channel Roles (Scholar, King, and Warrior) can concentrate in the midst of chaos right? So that's kind of what I try to look at. Is that a good indicator?
       
      [M Entity]
      No, we would not suggest using your ability to concentrate as your determining factor. The symptom of concentration vs. distraction in terms of Input is another of the simplifications that can happen when first learning about a part of the teaching. While it is true that an Essence with a single input can usually focus more intently in the midst of chaos, the influence of Personality, Imprinting, and Situations can greatly affect that level of concentration.
       
      What we would suggest as part of your validation of your Role in Essence is this:
       
      First, study the Roles. It is important to truly comprehend each Role. This means moving beyond the stereotypes that are a part of the initial stage of learning.
       
      Next, it is important to understand the vital differences between Essence and Casting. Casting affects how you behave “naturally”, how you express yourself to the world on a DAILY BASIS. Your Essence Role is most obviously comprehended in moments where you feel you SHINE.
       
      For instance:
       
      A Scholar-Cast Sage: In the daily life of this individual he may appear unkempt, distracted, refined, studious, directed, serious, and maybe even a bit out of synch socially, but this fragment would “shine” as soon as he was able to publicly share what he has gained as experiences in a way that was entertaining to at least a small group.
       
      A Sage-Cast Scholar, on the other hand, may be dramatic, socially obnoxious, emotional, depressed, extreme, performing, and chaotic in his daily life, but this fragment would “shine” when he is able to wholly comprehend something that can be finalized as a bit of profound personal knowledge.
       
      We do not know of a more appropriate word than “shine”. When you are in Essence, you feel complete, “on”, and you usually feel cohesion between your mundane self and your higher self. When we say “shine”, we do not intend to mean that everyone will see this, but rather that the Personality and Essence open to each other and a sense of lightness and wholeness pervade.
       
      We explain all of this to you in the context of an Essence having a different Role than Casting, but of course, there ARE Sage-Cast Sages and Scholar-Cast Scholars, but those fragments usually have little confusion as to their Role.
       
      Having explained those basic differences between Casting and Role in Essence, you can then figure out your Role or Casting by first determining if you feel you are more exalted or more ordinal in either of those contexts. In other words, in your DAILY LIFE, are you more one-on-one, but when you “shine”, are you surrounded by people? One-on-One might indicate a more Ordinal position, while being inclined toward groups can be an indication of an Exalted position.
       
      Once you have determined how you may behave in either context, you can then determine if you feel you are more compelled to have an inspiring, expressive, or active effect on your environment. This will then give you an indication as to the final role description you might be in your Casting or your Essence.
       
      For example, you may notice you are naturally more one-on-one in your daily life, thus indicating that you may be Ordinal-Cast, but when you “shine”, you notice you love to be in a group of people in some way, indicating you may be an Exalted Essence Role. Then you would determine if you are more inclined to be expressive, inspiring, or active in your daily life. If you find you are more concerned with inspiring, you could then safely start trying out the idea that you may be SERVER-CAST.
       
      When you “shine”, you may find you are more inclined to be expressive, entertaining, and teaching-oriented, which may indicate a SAGE ESSENCE. This would then be a Server-Cast Sage.
       
      We realize this can still be very confusing and difficult to determine, but it is a start. Because the Scholar Role is neutral, it can be the most difficult to determine and we would not be able to convey in this format the depth of questioning that would need to be explored for true validation of the Essence or Casting.
       
      One of the most important things you can do while studying our teaching and seeking to validate your Role, Casting, Overleaves, Entity, and Essence Twins, etc. is be open to an evolution of your understanding. You may discover that what you believed was inaccurate channeling is actually profoundly accurate to who you realize you are becoming (as you come into your own identity). Or you may discover that your self-determined Overleaves were highly inaccurate in your initial understanding and you now see that you are someone completely different after all.
       
      Never feel as if you must conclude who you are. Our system is designed to help you understand who you are, not complicate your self-perception.
       
      If you are thoroughly confused, pick a Role, pick your Overleaves, and begin “living with them”. You will begin to see what does and does not hold validity.
       
      [BingeBuddie] But would you have to be past the 4th internal monad to judge completely accurately as to what role you are? (not to ask ANOTHER lengthy question)
       
      [M Entity]
      It does help to have completed the 4th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole for true self-awareness in terms of Essence, Casting, and True Personality. But then, that is the very crux of having a completion of the 4th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, so it is not a matter of waiting for that rite to pass before seeking valid self-awareness.
       
      We are working with Troy in creating two new ways of determining your own basic profiles: a self-test, and a step-by-step process of elimination method. We believe this will help many of our students.
       
      We never sought to have any student dependent on our channels, so this is an important evolution to our sharing of the teachings.
       
      We believe we have given you at least some “food for thought” until then.
       
      [freyaisissuz] That's great, Troy, I will keep it short. I have sensed a connection with J Royce/M Moore. Is he a “reality shifter” or “dream maker” as in cadre 1/entity 3; if another, where?
       
      [M Entity]
      That is a valid observation. This is a fragment some of our channels would call a “wild card” within Cadre One, Entity Three, as well. This fragment is one of the youngest soul ages in that Entity. (3rd Level Mature)
       
      If there are no more questions, we will conclude for the evening. If there are more questions, we will take one more.
       
      [BradburySE]: A quick one
       
      [M Entity] Yes, Shannon, we will conclude with your question.
       
      [BradburySE] Who is this other “Dogma Dismantler” besides Michael Moore of whom you spoke in Troy’s energy report? Where will we find him, and is he or she now incarnated?
       
      [M Entity] Yes, he is incarnated: a Server Essence Twin of the Sage known as Michael Moore. The Server is a reincarnation of William James now focusing on the funneling of necessary requirements as a means to convey the Sage's “truth”. He may only be peripherally identified in the media. We believe he is one of the “producers” of Michael Moore's films, as well as several of his own projects which reflect some of the profound psychology explored in his previous life as William James.
       
      [BradburySE] Thank you, we can figure it out from here most likely! ?
       
      [M Entity]
      This relationship would appear to be more like a Task Companion relationship, but that is not the case. The relationship is taut with disagreements and power struggles, regardless of the powerful results.
       
      Good night to all of you. We will conclude here.
    • KurtisM
      By KurtisM
      Recently, I have been studying the economy & getting down to the root of what it is, why we're in the Capitalist economy we're in today, and how to solve/resolve it so we can enter a Resource-based Economy that better supports our Mature Soul Paradigm.
       
      I have had a few epiphanies in studying the 7 Waves & Elements of a Teaching- that in order for us to close Capitalism we can't simply rush it to completion so it dies, we have to comprehend it- understanding its whole spectrum, its whole lifespan, and how/why each of us have fueled it to continue.
      There's a lot to uncover but I believe that by doing this comprehension we can better lean toward building upon this world, rather than collapsing it.
      So many hate the world we're in and simply leave it at that notion- but we truly need to bring attention back to the good & positive aspects of our economy & what we can do to help return those dynamics- rather than just see the terrible and sensational parts.
      ---
       
       
      Today at work I thought more about what an economy is & realized that like most things, it seems to have 7 Stages.
      So here's what I theorized and uncovered:
       
      "The ECONOMY is based off of the concept that when we need/want something- we must find out how to get it.
      Another word we use for something we need/want is called a RESOURCE.
      All Resources in life must be LOCATED, then PRODUCED, then EXTRACTED, then PROVIDED, then USED/CONSUMED, then DIGESTED, and finally ASSIMILATED.

      This is the basic path or pattern through which an economy works.
      Location > Production > Extraction > Provision > Consumption > Digestion > Assimilation

      LOCATION: -Potential vs +Tangibility
      PRODUCTION: -Demand/Imposition vs +Creation
      EXTRACTION: -Removal vs +Release
      PROVISION: -Desertion vs +Circulation
      CONSUMPTION: -Depletion vs +Satisfaction
      DIGESTION: -Completion vs +Integration
      ASSIMILATION: -Waste vs +Comprehension"
       
      (EDIT: I changed the -Pole of Provision from "diffusion" to "desertion" after realizing the necessity in the 4th Stage for packaging and acceptance of the product- rather than solely transportation.)
       
       

      This system helps us understand what an Economy is neutrally. As well as how it becomes a false economy in the -poles, or a true economy in the +poles.
      In addition, the idea that a resource is something we need/want helps expand the definition of "resource" beyond the physical- because we can need/want emotional, intellectual or spiritual things too.
      Hence we can stop seeing the economy as merely being Physical- and start communicating it as having Emotional, Intellectual and Spiritual Realities/Dimensions too.
      This helps us comprehend an economy in its simplicity and complexity.
       
      I am intending to eventually bring my explorations of this into my activism & onto some form of website so that I can share with others the underlying laws behind an economy, and eventually- capitalism and the RBE particularly.
      And I plan to share more that I discover/contemplate about economies on here- perhaps eventually getting some info and validation from the Ms too.
      If we understand what an economy is, we can start extrapolating it & correlating it to all of the different governments & soul ages.
      Through this we can convey how the RBE would work, by basing that logic around how other economies like Capitalism work.
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