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  • The 7 Stages of the 4th Internal Monad

    Janet

    Originally posted by Troy on 7/20/09, based on channeling posted on Yahoo list on June 17, 2001.

     

    This topic came up in our recent chat on July 13, 2009, and Michael mentioned that I would include a copy of some information about the 4th Internal Monad. This was channeled YEARS ago, so please be lenient with it. I think I need to go through an update some phrasing and grammar to match my own growth and clarity in channeling, but the gist is there. Enjoy!

     

    4th Internal Monad
    +self-realization -acquiescence

     

    MICHAEL:
    The Fourth Internal Monad is the personal measurement between what was “planned” for the lifetime and what has actually been accomplished to date, and what might now be accomplished based on momentum from the current position within the life. This is where the Personality and Essence become “permanently” aligned or not.

     

    The Essence is either allowed freedom of manifestation or it is rejected as a source.

     

    To make simple sense of this Monad, it is the “regaining of innocence”.

     

    This is where you integrate the childish aspects of you into the adult version of your life as you have become. If major changes are to be a part of the transition to a “smoother” life, these changes can be drastic and threatening to the Personality as judgment may spring forth that its own decisions from the past were “mistakes”. In reality, the decisions were not mistakes; they were simply experiences.

     

    These experiences, however harshly judged, have led you to a place of potential self-realization. It is your choice to co-create the changes (the positive passage through the Monad), or to resign yourself to being overwhelmed (negative passage).

     

    If this Monad can be seen as an opportunity to free the “child within”, then much is gained in your understanding of how to remain in the positive aspects of the passage. The hallmark of positive passage through this Monad is in freeing yourself from what you think you SHOULD do and, instead, discovering what you love to do, in terms of external reality fulfillment.

     

    We remind you that you WILL move through the entire spectrum of the Monad, Positive Poles and Negative Poles, as you progress. It is as necessary as breathing "in" and "out". Reminding yourself that the point of the negative pole is a means to “look at” what you might want to change, upgrade, or accept, will do much in freeing you from severe reactions and Chief Feature "tricks".

     

    Those of you who have not completed the 3rd Internal Monad successfully (from the Positive Poles), you may find yourselves having to “go back” to the struggle of learning psychological independence before you can move on. The 3rd Internal Monad deals with the fragment comprehending their independence from the source that supported them through the first part of their life. It is not whether a fragment still depends on their source or not, it is simply whether they recognize they are not defined by that source.

     

    A person who would not pass completely through a stage within a Monad will live within that frame of reference for the remainder of the lifetime. Incompleteness, or Negative Pole completion through Monad 4 would find the person living in relentless self-examination and criticism of their choices, possibly reverting to the past as a source of blame for their behavior. This fragment will always feel unfulfilled.

     

    We remind you that this information is shared as a map, not as another form of fear to be used against the self. If you are driving through a passage up a mountain-side and we would note that to certain routes would give your more challenge or diversion from the destination, this would not take from the absolute choices that you have. It is always possible to complete a Monad in the Positive Poles from any point within the life. You are never trapped beyond your willingness to progress.

     

    Here, then, are the seven stages of this Monad:

     

    Stage 1: INITIATION
    +enthusiasm -indifference

     

    Stage 1: This stage is hardly noticeable since you have only just placed your consciousness into the new context. This stage relates to the Instinctive Center, therefore “kicking in” the Monad without the individual being particularly conscious of this. Indications of the initial stage are usually marked by enthusiasm and anticipation. A simple delight in your potential future or accomplishments. Since this is simply a technical reference, and not really measurable enough to recognize, we suggest using the signs of the Second Stage as a starting point, possibly “working back” to a point where you might have seen the initial stages begin to manifest. Most will find there was a point when there was either a sudden enthusiasm that “something” was different, or a definitive point wherein the fragment feels further removed from its own life.

     

    This Stage, then, evaluates your sense of Trust.

     

    Stage 2: INTROSPECTION
    +awareness -brooding

     

    Stage 2: This stage is heavily marked by dread, anxiety, and intense Introspection. Depending on your resistance and your Overleaves, you may experience anything from a realization of your personal worth and a positive realization of your life's impact, or virtual self-implosion and self-degradation.

     

    Different cultures will respond to this Stage depending on parental upbringing and definitions of Authority. This is an introspective stage in the context of a Monad to evaluate accomplishments and plans, so there may be a processing of a Scary Parent or issues with Authority you have carried around being belittled for your “mistakes”, decisions and choices and expression. In that processing, you may experience a new sense of connection to “something” more like a Supportive Parent or Authority from within to gently nudge and concur with you through the life.

     

    This Stage evaluates your perceptions of Authority and your reaction to your sense of self-importance and self-value.

     

    Stage 2 brings up energy from the Emotional Center.

     

    Stage 3: REALIZATION
    +freedom -separation

     

    This Intellectually-centered Stage begins to release the ideas of the past as a source for the future. New ideas and identities will emerge here.

     

    Most realizations will be reserved for inner exploration, but, nonetheless, a change has taken place in how the individual views its expression as a part of a larger picture. On the more expansive side, one knows what must begin to be done, and starts to anticipate a general plan, not always with clarity, but with a certainty that “something must be done”. On the more constricting side, one begins to pull back from the future and “hide within”, or away from external reflections. This stage evaluates your perception of Responsibility. This Stage usually lasts the longest, especially in the Fourth Internal Monad, as you probe your beliefs.

     

    Stage 4: MANIFESTATION
    +purpose -otiose

     

    This Stage brings energy out through the Moving Center as you begin now to express to yourself, and others, more confidently what/who you are. In the context of the Fourth Monad, it is where you begin doing or, at least, pursuing/discovering what you are pulled to do as a reflection of your “contribution” and original Tasks. Successful movement through this is seen as a comfortable expression of your daily activities and endeavors.

     

    Resisting this Stage and remaining here would result in sluggishness, ineffective portrayals of self, and sometimes rage/anger in place of empowerment.

     

    This stage explores your concepts of Purpose.

     

    Stage 5: CONTENTMENT
    +satisfaction -contention

     

    Finally you begin to feel/see some satisfaction from your progress through the Internal Monad. In the context of the Fourth Internal Monad, whether you have completed or accomplished a Task becomes irrelevant against the contentment of what you choose to do.

     

    In this Stage, you realize the amount of density you have been containing and you begin to “lighten up” about your movement. In the positive pole you will see personal happiness now becoming a factor in your decisions, and in this Fourth Monad, you've released treasured securities found in the oppressive/elusive “big plan or PURPOSE”, and find this more appropriate guide. Otherwise, the negative pole finds an individual always at odds with their environment, always in a state of contention and debate about their worth/purpose.

     

    This stage evaluates your perceptions of Love. The Higher Emotional Center is highlighted here.

     

    Stage 6: MAGNETIZATION
    +attraction -repulsion

     

    In this Stage, you now begin to draw in your agreements, Karma, and Support for new perspectives, or reconnect/stabilize existing ones. The positive pole maintains clear communication, acknowledgment of Traveling Companions, and a more accurate view of the future. You now see with clarity the long-term impact of your efforts alongside the current “demands”. Those who find themselves in a state of rejection, isolation, and depression, have chosen to experience the negative pole. A sense of deep longing begins to unfold in the negative pole of Stage 6, since so much has been deemed “unacceptable”.

     

    This stage opens you to your perceptions of Truth.

     

    Stage 7: EMANATION
    +alignment -incongruity

     

    In this stage you find the peace of routine that becomes you. A sense of wholeness returns and “getting back” to your life. In the positive pole, alignment occurs with Essence; in the negative pole, life becomes incongruous and sporadic in nature, with no bearing. Regardless of the pole, you will emanate your sense of self at that point with no resistance.

     

    This stage engages your Higher Moving Center, and examines Beauty, or Energy.

     

    It is important here to note that a completion of the Monad does not necessarily mean a “positive” completion. In most cases where the negative pole becomes emphasized, completion is not reached due to the internal degradation and combustion that occurs along the way. Many do complete the Monad, however, within parameters acceptable to them that would technically be regarded as the negative pole. This is the choice of the individual and has no bearing on their being a “good” or “bad” person; we do not say this, nor do we imply this. We merely state the differentiation between what is expansive and self aware, and what is not. The negative completion is not expansive or self-aware, relatively speaking.

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      MEntity:
      Despite the complexities that can be involved in Self-Karma, the actual concept, exploration, and resolution are quite simple. That is not to say that the process is "easy," but that describing these elements is fairly simple.

      First, we will define Karma as "any form of intensity (imbalance) as a result of interference to your capacity for Choice." Interference of Choice is not the only criteria for generating Karma. There must be an intensity, or imbalance, generated from at least one party, and most-often the party who suffered the loss of Choice.

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      The resolution of Karma is in the "burning" of the "ribbon," or neutralizing that frequency.

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      We will define Self-Karma as being "a dual position within that interferes with your own capacity for Choice, and generates intensity, or imbalance." Often these are also described as "Issues."

      ALL Self-Karma is contained within a single lifetime and does not carry over in the same way that Ribbons do among fragments. Self-Karma is generated by the Personality within the lifetime. However, Self-Karma can show up as patterns for an Essence, because Essence designs each Personality, and often the patterns of exploration sought by Essence generates similar opportunities across lifetimes for each Personality that tends toward certain Self-Karmic issues. If a Personality resolves his or her Self-Karma within a lifetime, that Self-Karma is usually not repeated, because Essence then has a completed set of new data from which to use for creating a lifetime. Since Essence learns through Personality, it can only progress beyond certain Self-Karmic patterns when a Personality finally figures out how to resolve the issue. That is not to say that a pattern does not repeat, but that it is rarely repeated. When we say that it is not repeated, we are speaking about a specific Self-Karma, but that issue may be a part of a larger category of Self-Karma, which we will explain in a moment.

      If you are alive, you most-likely have Self-Karma. Self-Karma is so common a development among Personalities that even the hosts for the Transcendental and Infinite Souls carried Self-Karma. However, in the cases of Transcendental and Infinite Soul hosts, the Self-Karma is always resolved within the lifetime.

      Self-Karma is generated in four categories of your life, which mirror the Axes of our Overleaf System. It would be more accurate to say that Self-Karma is generated in one or more of your four "bodies" that mirror the Axes of our Overleaf System: your Intellectual, Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual/Instinctive Bodies. These categories can help you to identify your Self-Karma by where, how, and when you find yourself divided in a way that interferes with your capacity for Choice.

      Self-Karma is often paralyzing in its effects. When we say "paralyzing," we include those uncontrollable compulsions that force a choice even when you "know" is not a choice you would prefer to make. We include non-choice, refusal to choose, or the fear to choose, as a means to suspend yourself between two or more choices, as forms of paralyzing.

      What we will share now is a simple exercise for identifying your Self-Karma in a way that allows for tangibility so that resolution can be made, if you choose to pursue such an endeavor.

      Draw up a chart in a way that creates the four categories, or bodies: Intellectual, Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual.

      With merely a glance at your life, considering each category, it might be fairly easy to identify at least one Self-Karma from each category.

      You could translate each category into a way to help your examination, such as: Expression, Inspirational, Action, and Assimilliation areas of your life. Assimilation might be better understood as your "Learning" or "Comprehension," or the "Lessons" are of life.

      Another translation: my world view; my relationships; my body; my spirit.

      Questions to pose for each category, regardless of how one translates that category might sound something like:
      "What do I get the most upset about in this category?"
      Or "In this category, what experience repeats for me that keeps me from making the choices I want to make?"
      Or "In this category, where do I wish something else would change before I can make a choice that I prefer?"
      Or "In this category, to what do I tend to overreact?"
      Or "In this category, what triggers reaction in me?"
      Or "What frustrates me the most about myself, others, life in this category?"

      At first, your examination may bring up broad categories, and that is a good place to start, but you would eventually want to narrow it down to specific triggers or situations. For instance, you may feel that issues of INJUSTICE is a large context that carries triggers for you, but upon closer inspection, you may find that you are really only triggered when someone does not comply to your way of thinking, or agree with you, or celebrate your passionate stance with the same passion. This might indicate that your issues are not so much about Injustice, but about "Being Right" or "Being Superior."

      Once one has identified a Self-Karma, then the work of resolution can begin. Resolution is found when there is no longer a sense of division, and your choice is completely owned by you. We will give a very simple example:

      A fragment identifies that she has "issues" with her body image, detailing that she feels ugly because she does not lose weight, but does not do the work of losing that weight. This would fall under BODY, or Physical. The broader category would be "Body Image," but she might find she is triggered in instances where she is going to be social or intimate.

      Her Self-Karma then might be the division within that says she is beautiful just as she is, as long as no one sees her. Being "Beautiful As I Am" means to her to never having that concept challenged, so she remains isolated and secluded to sustain that version of herself. Being "As Beautiful as Others Prefer" would mean shaping the body into a new form, which means exercise, diet, and patience, but this is in conflict with "Beautiful As I Am," and to follow through in that direction might mean she really is not beautiful as she is, so reprimanding, self-punishment, self-hate, repulsion replace diet, exercise, and patience. She remains at home, or secretly isolated internally, even when in social situations.

      The resolution would come only when she MAKES THE CHOICE in one direction or the other, and allows herself to own that choice. If she chooses to "Be Beautiful As I Am" then it would require the work of self-acceptance, self-kindness, accentuating all that is felt to be beautiful, internally and externally, and to build upon that. She would celebrate the beautiful in those people and things that she knows as beautiful beyond any standard in entertainment or social media. She would allow for all forms of beauty, knowing that this is a subjective matter, and never something that can be standardized.

      If she chooses to "Be as Beautiful as Others Prefer," then she would own the steps necessary to go down that path, and begin a commitment to exercise, diet, patience, and a reality-check that she cannot transform her body to be exactly as someone else's, but that she can make it the best it can be. She would embrace the fact that she may not please everyone, but focus on moving her body into a state that is pleasing to herself. She is simply taking care of herself.

      In short: the Self-Karma is a division that could be described as "Accept my self as I am/Improve upon my self-image." The resolution is to choose one of those and to own all that goes along with that choice.

      The irony is that in the commitment to one or the other, BOTH are ultimately included; hence the resolution. Neither side of the division is left behind.

      Accepting yourself as you are automatically includes an upgrade to your self image. Improving upon your self-image automatically brings a kindness to the process that is an acceptance for who you are all along the way of your improvement. Improving yourself in your own eyes automatically improves your representation of yourself to others, thus improving yourself in their eyes, as well. Improving yourself in a way that others may find appealing often leads to clarity about what must be improved in your own eyes.

      When choosing a direction for commitment to resolution, it is often more beneficial and efficient to choose the direction over which you have the most control. For instance, taking the route of "Accept Myself As I Am" is far more within the control of that person than if she were to entirely depend upon the external factors for gauging her progress. Both paths could work, but this is why many teachings encourage one to start with the self, since that is where one has the most control, and is almost always guaranteed success. Choosing to go in a direction of lesser control that requires others to comply to your ideal is still a valid path, but a more complicated and challenging path, with less-likely successes.

      The more time and care given to your examination of your Self-Karma, the more quickly and easily the resolution might come because the solutions are often within the issue, itself.
       
      **************Q&A***************
      Are there different gemstones with their frequencies that might be utilized to help neutralize the energies of these four self-karma categories?
       
      MEntity:
      If it is understood that these gemstones are merely a supportive energy, and not an energy that actually does the work for you, then there are stones that might help some fragments receptive to that energy. To understand how these work, it might be helpful to think of each gemstone as being a light of specific color, and when that light is shined into your space, it can highlight certain things. It is not that the stone is actually "doing" anything other than being itself. A flashlight in the dark is not magic, but it can certainly improve one's capacity for seeing. And so it is with such tools as gemstones.

      With that being understood, the most common stones available for helping support in the process of Self-Karma might be:

      Rose Quartz or Pyrite for Physical/Body Issues
      Amethyst Quartz or Citronite for World View/Intellectual/Expression issues
      Tourmaline or Jades for various Learning/Comprehension/Instinctive Issues
      Tiger's Eye or Azurites for Emotional/Relationship Issues

      These stones may help to highlight the areas prone to opportunities for resolution, but they will not resolve the issues for you, or soothe them.

      There is validity to frequencies generated from inanimate objects, especially from those directly of the planet, but as with any tool, it is what you do with them that makes the difference, not necessarily the properties of that object. A hammer is just a hammer until one picks it up to use with intent, and that intent can have a multitude of outcomes.

      How do you deal with cases where manifesting is involved and appears to interfere with the resolution? For example: If the woman above decides to get in shape, but then injures herself or gets into a car accident that hurts her back. How to avoid or get past that? I see it a lot.

      MEntity:
      The Self-Karma would remain, as well as the resolution, regardless of circumstances along the way. To make this clearer, we will use an example of a man who has lost his legs who feels he is worthless without being able to walk. The Self-Karma is not in whether he can walk, or not, but in how he experiences whether he can walk, or not. If he is divided to such an extent that it paralyzes his capacity for choice, then he has generated Self-Karma. If he embraces his experience, or if he commits to rising above it, then the Self-Karma is resolved.

      For the woman who has hurt her back after committing to improving the health of her body, she can still commit to the improvement of her health and body.

      When a commitment in one direction of resolution comes with great obstacles, or surprise obstacles, or challenges, the commitment itself must inherently make room for all of the possibilities of that path, or it is not a commitment.

      Is there a way of avoiding or lessening the chances of that happening in the first place? It seems to me that it happens when someone forces themselves towards one choice without being ready?

      You are correct that "forcing a choice" is still included in Self-Karma, as we described it as a compulsion. And that is a good point for differentiation:

      Resolution comes from EMBRACING YOUR CHOICE, not FORCING your choice. Forcing a choice leads to complications that compound the Self-Karma. Embracing a choice means absolute permission to explore that choice on your own terms at your own pace, and with an invitation to Essence, your friends, your loved ones for support in that choice.

      Forcing a choice is usually marked by intensity and often secrecy.

      Embracing a choice is usually marked by a gentleness and an openness without shame.

      That is not to say that embracing a choice would avoid any surprises, but that embracing a choice inherently brings the strength of adaptability.

      In addressing self-karma through another channel once, you told me to consider my greatest concern in life and I'll be on my way to identifying my self-karma... then you asked me "how satisfied are you with your response to friendship". Would you elaborate a little more on the why of that particular question and how it relates to my self-karma?

      MEntity: For examination on a broader level, we would ask about the "greatest concern in life," and this would allow one to find his or her most pressing issue/s. Following this with a question about relationships would help to identify a category. That question would have been asked if we suspected it may be helpful to look into your Emotional or Relationship Category for refinement of that exploration.

      Thank you, good evening! Could you please give an example of, and resolution to, a spiritual self karma? Would perfectionism be a spiritual self karma?

      MEntity:
      A broad example of a Spiritual/Instinctive Self-Karma might be those issues associated with Guilt and Shame. A specific Spiritual Self-Karma within Guilt or Shame might be in the experience of being an Old Soul among family members who are Baby and Young, and having to deal with this in a way that does not leave you feeling divided between "being yourself" and "compromising just to keep the peace." In that case, the choice would be between "being yourself" and letting others deal with that, or "Compromising to keep the peace" as a means of dealing with it on your own. The resolution would be in the fact that regardless of which choice you make, you are ALWAYS "yourself," and no context changes that, regardless of the facet you choose to bring forth appropriately or strategically.

      In an example you gave, - which is EXACTLY me, lol, and started with back injuries, are both options you gave equally valid for truly resolving the issue? Using that example, what happens if you improve yourself and then later on you end up backsliding or being injured, etc and are once again feeling overweight and unattractive? It seems like loving yourself as you are resolves the situation, whereas changing your body, while healthier physically, could be undone.

      Self-Karmic resolution is immediate and permanent and not based upon conditions. If the motivations for improving upon the body as a path to resolution is conditional upon reaching some conclusive state that will only THEN be satisfied, then it is merely a perpetuation of the Self-Karma. If one were to choose to improve upon the body as a means for reaching a state considered "beautiful," it would have to include kindness, patience, and a devotion to the self in a way that naturally translates into "beautiful as you are along the way." The embrace of the commitment to improve upon the body as a means to reach a greater state of beauty would mean that you are merely at one point in that spectrum of beauty, rather than its needing a finish line to cross.

      Another way to understand when one is in Resolution is when you know your choice is because you WANT to make that choice, not because you feel you HAVE to make that choice.

      "I HAVE to make this choice if I want to be beautiful" is not a choice that resolves Self-Karma. "I HAVE to accept myself as I am in order to feel beautiful" is equally imprisoning. In this case, it would be helpful to understand that the ideal of beautiful cannot be reached without creating steps along the way that are seen as beautiful to you. Much like building a brick house, it must be completed brick by brick. It is never helpful to deny that it is a brick house simply because it is not to a point where you feel you can live in it. For instance, the simple decision to "try to like how I look today" is a beautiful decision. It may not stick, but for now, it is beautiful. The more "for now" moments of beauty you extract from your experiences will add to the materials that build your ideal structure of beauty. The decision not to eat a certain way for the day because you feel this contributes to your better health is a beautiful decision, even if you do not choose that the next day. For now, it is beautiful.

      Those simple moments build into a matrix that helps to generate moments that are far more pivotal toward resolution.

      So you often surround yourself with 'conditions' when you are experiencing self-karma?

      MEntity:
      Oh yes. Depending on the extent and depth of the Self-Karma, the more conditional your existence. "I can be beautiful as I am, as long as I am invisible." Those "conditions" generate a false reality, and that is what gets exhausting, not the actual process of resolution. Sustaining a false reality as a means to balance the divisions within is literally exhausting. All Self-Karma can be resolved in an instant once the truth of the absolute superficiality and uselessness is comprehended.

      ALL Self-Karma are simply forms of self-discipline that have gone awry in the self-parenting process. Or put another way, generated during the Third Internal Monad.

      Is the majority of self-karma generated during or through the 3rd IM or are their other times/experiences that generate a certain amount of self-karma as well?

      MEntity: Self-Karma is almost entirely generated during the Third Internal Monad, and complicated or refined over the rest of the life. For instance: there may be the experience of being rejected based on appearance, which prompts one to be very concerned about appearance, which then becomes a divide within that acceptance is based heavily upon appearance, which then becomes specific to certain body parts, or spreads to include the entire body.

      So it might be useful looking at the experiences surrounding the 3rd IM in order to help identify some of the behaviours that are self-karmic? Find their genesis, so to speak, and understanding what has given rise to them, be able to put them into a more proper perspective?

      MEntity:
      It is not necessary to understand from where or when these were generated. It will never matter where or when these were generated, as it is the current "you" who make the choices now. It would be similar to trying to understand when, where, and why you have brown hair. It does not matter. You have the choice to embrace that color, or to change it.

      We pointed out the time frame of origin as a means to point out that many of these issues are "teen age" or "young soul" levels of issues, or even younger, and that their bearing has little validity or relevance to you as an adult or older soul.

      Self-karma is created by ourselves and not circumstances or others...

      MEntity: Correct. It is created when one interferes with one's own choices to the point that it generates a divide within.

      Thanks Michael. You've touched on some of this already, but here's my original question/s: Could you comment on how Self Karma tends to be experienced across all soul ages, or is it more likely to be confronted by us as we mature in soul age?

      MEntity: If you are alive, you most likely experience Self-Karma. Most Self-Karma is relative to the predominant Soul Age for your planet, or your current society within which you were nurtured.

      So there are links to Social/Cultural soul age?
      Relative...?

      MEntity:
      All Soul Ages experience Self-Karma, but it is true that there are emphases within each: Infant and Old tend toward Spiritual Issues; Baby tends toward Intellectual/Expression Issues; Young tends toward Physical/Body Issues; and Mature toward Emotional/Relationship Issues.

      Though Old tends toward Spiritual Issues, they are prone to taking on the predominant issues of the times, and can run that gamut of issues across the soul ages, depending on what is of interest for exploration that has never been resolved.

      Most Old Souls that we know of have yet to resolve Self-Karmic issues remembered from their Young Soul days and are finally "getting around to them" now. That is because the current society fully supports Young Soul issues involving appearance, body, health, etc. When most of you were in your Young Soul days, your "Baby" or Intellectual/Expression issues were most explored.

      We would also point out that now that the planet is technically Mature Soul, newer generations would generate their Self-Karma during the Fourth Internal Monad. In an Old Soul Society, these would be generated during the Fifth Internal Monad. The predominant Soul Age during the lifetime usually indicates when the Self-Karma is generated, and though it can also indicate what kind, it is not necessarily limited to that.

      Does this mean we would have to wait for society to catch up to work through mature and old soul issues?

      MEntity: No, we simply speak about the practicality of the times, since Self-Karma is generated and contained within the single Personality, which is most-often imprinted by the current society, but anyone can work on anything at any time.

      Oh, I misunderstood -- there are four categories of Self-Karma, but one only develops an issue within one category during any given lifetime?

      MEntity: No. The time frame for when they are usually generated is fairly consistent, and it can indicate the root of many issues, but could include issues from any category.

      In your response to another question, you mentioned that one must choose between being themselves and compromising to keep the peace. How do you accept that finding that compromise may never occur and to be accepting that your best attempts to rectify a situation will never be enough while accepting that the consequences of the failure of another will happen to them, without it creating the self-karma of guilt or shame? I seem to have this type of pattern repeating through the past five or ten years for me and I'd really like to break it somehow.

      MEntity:
      We see that is a helpful question that addresses the nature of resolution when it is valid. In this case, if one were to choose to compromise for the sake of keeping the peace and does not experience this compromise as an assault against one's being, but finds that compromise still does nothing, then the the point of Being Oneself is still intact, as it is clarified that no amount of compromise makes a difference, and that the issue was never about one's Being. From that space within the original resolution, it would be a matter of decisions based on what to do with these individuals, and not to do with oneself.

      This may lead to another layer of Self-Karma because it might get to the Self-Karma one might have about who "should love me, no matter what." Do you endure the suffering within their presence as a means to receive potential love, or do you remove yourself from those people who should love you.

      In short, it might move into issues about where love, and what love, is in your life. Is it more loving to remove yourself from the exhausting exchanges, or is it more loving to allow room for their lack of love for your presence as you choose to love anyway.

      In most instances where one feels one must continually endure the presence of another while feeling exhausted and even damaged, then the question is not about love, but about Rights.

      Could you explain further on your definition of Rights?

      MEntity: We will include our Map of Rights in the final transcript, but as an example: every fragment has the Right to Love and Be Loved, and this Right is either supported or removed in the process of a lifetime. So it might be a question of whether those who refuse to love have more of a right to your love than you do?

      Just curious about the obstacles to resolution of self-karma...what tends to keep us from resolving them? Are these obstacles different for the various soul ages?

      MEntity:
      The most-common obstacles to resolution are boredom, specialness, and crisis management:

      Boredom is the result of rejection of Essence, and like a dog with anxiety cut off from his sense of resource, can chew off his own skin to keep busy with distraction.

      Specialness is a result of rejection of Uniqueness, and spends all of its energy seeking constant external validation for any sense of value. Uniqueness requires nothing for it to Be; it is inherent. Specialness requires constant feedback.

      Crisis Management is a result of rejection, or distortion, of one's strengths gained over the lifetime. It becomes far more familiar and routine to manage crises, or patterns of issues, than it is to use those strengths for managing the creation of the life, and new patterns of freedom.

      Boredom is usually linked to Self-Destruction and Greed; Specialness to Self-deprecation and Arrogance; and Crises to Impatience and Martyrdom.

      Put another way, Boredom often perpetuates Intellectual issues; Specialness perpetuates Emotional issues; and Crises perpetuates Physical Issues.

      That is a generality, but it is fairly consistent, keeping in mind that there may be layers within a Self-Karma.

      Could you give an example of Crisis Management in the final transcript? I am not sure I understand that one.

      MEntity: We can give an example now: It is much more comforting and familiar to, say, manage the trauma and pain caused by your struggling to accept an invitation where you feel your appearance will be scrutinized, than to simply go, or not. Crisis Management vs Life Management. Crisis vs Choice. Crisis vs Creativity.

      Hello Michaels & Troy! Initially I wanted to ask WHY self-karma arises and why would we ever want to interfere with our own choices to the point of generating a divide, but I understand that the channel may be tired by now, so will ask instead if you could give an example of the most typical form of self-karma for an Old soul?

      MEntity:
      We can answer both: Why one generates Self-Karma is simple to understand if one does not see it as such an imposition, but as a process of learning that moves from the experience of duality and into the experience of a spectrum, or wholeness. In every instance of Self-Karma there is duality, and in every resolution there is a spectrum, or wholeness. Self-Karma generates from over-simplifying, and Resolution comes from embracing complexity. In every lifetime, every Personality is born an Infant Soul in perspective, and seeks to not only return to the greater perspective already reached in previous lives, but to exceed that. However, this process includes a process from Duality to Spectrum, so to speak, so none escape that process.

      There is no typical Self-Karma for the Old Soul. If the Old Soul lives in an Old Soul world, then the Self-Karma might tend toward Spiritual issues as "typical," but otherwise, the Self-Karma tends toward the predominant Soul Age of the planet or environment.

      However, for the sake of example, a "typical" Old Soul/Spiritual Issue could be said to be the resolution between the fact of the current Personality as it exists among all Personalities across time for Essence. Recognizing the profundity of how small one really is in the scheme of things while seeking to retain a sense of identity, contribution, and participation can be terrifying.

      This is why we say that Old Souls learn through Terror.

      END OF CHAT
       
      Map of Rights: The original map referred to in this transcript is not currently available, but the seven basic rights are well covered in OMW: Tending to Your 7 Basic Rights.
    • Janet
      By Janet
      This session took place on June 8, 2008.
       
      [Michael Entity] Hello to everyone. We are here.
       
      [QUESTION] I see a lot of folks who have bad dreams in my work and have found that while interpretation can be useful, people often find relief just by imagining a better ending for the dream. I don't remember where I learned that (maybe from you?). Anyway it seems to bring relief from nightmares. What is the mechanism by which this works? is it just that I say it will and people believe me? Or is it something astral? or simply the subconscious mind doing its thing? All that seems to be required is a good imagination and being in "alpha" waves.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      There is a level of dreaming that is primarily symbolic and these dreams are where issues from the waking life are being processed or examined. It does not require a fragment to be asleep for those symbols to be meaningful, but the symbols that are recalled from the dream are often the most directly-significant to the issues. For most fragments, the dream state can help resolve these issues being played out symbolically. This symbolic level of dreaming is very similar to how fragments experience and interact on the Astral Plane anyway, but for those fragments who have not resolved the issues being played out in symbolic dreaming, then bringing in the consciousness of the waking personality can help break the worrying cycle that has led to what some describe as "nightmares." This method of resolution is a natural strength for most fragments, which is why it so naturally occurs during sleep where the Personality dissolves to its default nature of strengths and weaknesses. Nearly all fragments assign symbolism to emotional, intellectual, spiritual, and physical elements of the life, though this symbolism is often lost to the conscious personality (waking state). When you, QUESTIONER, direct a fragment to use those symbols and experiences from the dream in a conscious way to bring about a break in the cycle and to direct toward resolution, it is not only resolving the issue in many ways, but bringing about an alignment between the conscious and subconscious selves.
       
      This same method can be used for those who are not having nightmares or remembering dreams:
       
      Examining an issue within the waking state and breaking it down into symbolism, then manipulating those symbols into a way that brings about a sense of direction, closure, or change can help implement those very things in the reality.
       
      For instance, a fragment may be feeling obstacles or patterns that keep him or her locked into poverty or survival modes. This fragment might choose a symbol to represent himself and the obstacles or patterns, adding in a current idea of a solution, and manipulate these into a way that displays a symbolic solution. Keeping that symbolic sense of solution at hand, in mind, heart, or even visually depicted (drawn out), can help to break the current symbolic pattern.
       
      [QUESTIONER] cool! bypasses the intellect setting up barriers I would think
       
      [Michael Entity] Your assessment is valid, for it is the Intellect that often keeps movement locked into an undesirable pattern. This is by no means true in all situations, but in many, it is.
       
      [QUESTION] Could you give an example of this conscious working with symbols such as the poverty or survival mode idea?
       
      [Michael Entity]
      Questioner, the symbolism would have to be specific to the individual, so our example will not be universal.
       
      For instance, one example might be a CAT to represent the individual, a BALL INSIDE A CIRCULAR TUBED TRACK with just a bit of a slit along the inside ring of the tube for reaching at the ball, to represent the pattern/obstacle. The current situation has the cat swatting at the ball over and over and often in a frenzy while the ball is forever locked inside that circular track. No amount of swatting or maneuvering is going to change this ball's circular roll within the tubed track.
       
      This person might then change the pattern by realizing that the symbolic pattern of the ball in the track means that everything about what the cat is doing is never going to get anywhere beyond chasing current ideas, actions, and feelings in circles.
       
      This situation would either require intervention (maybe a human to come along and break open the track to get to the ball) or to simply walk away to a completely new adventure. For the sake of this example, it might seem to be the most directly implementable action to simply walk away from the current ideas and actions. This person might then imagine the cat walking away wistfully and finding a small tree with accessible branches bearing dollar bills, all dangling in the wind. The cat is seen as having an hilarious and playful time jumping and swatting at the branches and knocking down the dollar bills into a pile.
       
      This person, then, might keep that image in mind when he or she begins to feel trapped again within patterns that are obviously not working so that he or she can be open to other, more accessible, inputs and possibilities within the reality.
       
      Keep in mind that these symbolic plays are NOT the solution in themselves, but are symbolic shifts toward internal solutions or breaks from patterns in how one is perceiving and interpreting reality, which is then a powerful step toward finding and creating external "real life" solutions and breaks.
       
      We would also suggest examining why this person might have chosen himself to be symbolized by a CAT, looking at all that a cat means to that person and applying that insight as a way to discover how he or she sees the self in relation to the issue.
       
      We will point out here that this topic could be an entire discussion in itself and one that might be worth examining in the future.
       
      [QUESTION] What is meditation? Is it just silencing the internal chattering, or is something else involved? I recently had some personal advice in meditation from Michael, but trying to follow it, I started wondering what meditation actually is.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      From our perspective, "meditation" is a word to describe the work through a triad that leads to adaptable balancing among all centers. This triad could be described as: EXAMINATION, IMPLEMENTATION, REALIZATION. We will describe this in detail now.
       
      First, a fragment would Examine the life to determine which Center is seeming least used, least effective, least understood, etc. For simplistic purposes, we will contain this to the 3 Primary Centers. So if one were to see that the MOVING Center is being used the least, or is the least effective, then this would determine the direction of IMPLEMENTATION. This would mean that your "meditation" would be of a Moving-Centered sort. Stillness or stereotypical concepts of "meditation" would not work for this fragment. This fragment could then Implement a moving meditation into his or her days. This moving meditation could be anything that includes the body and movement, which means that meditation could be anything from exercise to dancing to simple movements of the body while seated. Once a method has been Implemented, then the practice of this on a regular basis will lead to REALIZATION, which simply describes the effect of that particular meditation. In this case, a balance within the self that has taught the body how to call upon its moving center in a more effective way. The Implementation stage is the most important stage as it requires some amount of commitment for Realization to come about. The entirety of the experience from Examination to Implementation to Realization is "meditation." In other words, Meditation is not simply a separation from your routines (examination), nor is it simply the clear focus of intent during parts of your day (implementation), nor is it just the benefits on the other side of implementation (realization). It is a triad of effort.
       
      [QUESTION] what would be an example of using Emotional as the Center for Implementation?
       
      [Michael Entity] Listening to music that stimulates the emotions could be good for some fragments, while watching dramatic movies could be good for others; still others might find a walk through beautiful environments to be a means for implementing Emotional; exploring art could be another example for some.
       
      [QUESTION] So it doesn't matter if I think of this and that during implementation, as long as I move?
       
      [Michael Entity] The more consciousness one can direct toward that which is being implemented, the greater the Realization. So if one is implementing Movement, one can think and feel whatever one wishes, but allow the consciousness to fully embrace the body, the sensations, the experience of the movement as clearly as possible. It cannot hurt to be as focused as one can be on the implementation, but it is not necessary to block other natural elements within you.
       
      [QUESTIONER] I thought so
       
      [Michael Entity]
      Those who experience the Realization will find that one can think, feel, and act in a way that each does not overshadow or block the other.
       
      This is another topic worth exploring, if our students wished.
       
      [QUESTION] I want to know about the 4th internal monad and how one would know if they were on the way to manifesting their true personality
       
      [Michael Entity]
      The easiest way one can gauge whether one is moving forward through the 4th Internal Monad in a way that is a positive transition, or to gauge whether one has completed a 4th Internal Monad in a way that was in the Positive Pole, is to ask one, simple question:
       
      DO I LIKE ME?
       
      To the degree that a fragment can honestly say that he or she likes himself or herself, is the degree to which the 4th Internal Monad is being completed, or has been completed, in the Positive Pole.
       
      The Positive Pole of the entire 4th Internal Monad is Self-Realization, which is the experience of being present with who you are and generally liking who you are. The Negative Pole is Acquiescence, which is the feeling of being forced or succumbing to "who you are," and not really liking who that is.
       
      In short, if you can answer the question DO I LIKE ME? with an answer of "yes" to any degree, then you are generally manifesting True Personality to that degree.
       
      [QUESTION] There are different ”schools” teaching how to do psychic readings/how to read energy fields/do energy work. When doing a reading it's sometimes being used different energy techniques for different issues coming up in a reading. For instance: 1.Create and destroy, 2.Removing fear energies, 3.Delete programming, 4.Erasure and 5.Astral healing. If possible I would like Michael make a comment on the use of these techniques and the fact that some of these schools, even today, try to keep some secrecy around the energy techniques.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      Many "schools" who claim secrecy over their techniques are run by, and determined by, Baby Souls. The techniques involved would be beneficial to other Baby Souls, and to some Young Souls, but probably quite ineffective for Mature or Older Souls to use. This is because the techniques and beliefs that make these work are mythological and superstitiously rooted. If one can adapt these Baby Soul concepts into a more mature language and method, then the schooling might not be lost on the Mature or Older soul, but this would have to be kept in mind along the way. For instance, the idea that one can heal another is a Baby Soul concept, but the reality that one can help another to heal himself is a Mature concept. Even on the most physical of levels of intervention, a physical doctor can only do so much in treating a fragment and the fragment "being healed" must ultimately do the healing. Tending, or intervening the impact of wounds is one thing; but healing is always a personal matter.
       
      The older souls know this.
       
      We mention this as an example because many of the more secretive techniques and schoolings teach as an undercurrent a kind of power over others (whether for "good" or "bad,") and this ultimate power is simply not valid.
       
      If your technique for healing is considerate of the dynamic that needs to be in place between healer and wounded, with an holistic awareness, then the technique would be the most effective and valid. Techniques that leave out the choice of another tend to lead to Karma.
       
      [QUESTION] I have recently been involved in discussions with a few of my friends regarding political and governmental systems regarding which are the most effective. My friends would gladly describe themselves as “libertarian” whereas I cannot completely proscribe to such an ideology, if only because their description of “libertarianism” seems to give too much authority to the private sector and private interests; of which I am not entirely comfortable. They would likely label me as “socialist” or as “bleeding heart liberal” if they didn't know me better! I guess the questions are: Is there or are there ideal governmental system(s) or ideology for the current average soul age we are in currently, based on what Michael has perceived from other sentient beings? What do these systems look like? Perhaps what the United States and the rest of the world is currently experiencing in their governments are pretty typical for our current soul age development? That would be my perception at least. Also, what do typical governments look like on worlds that have a majority of old souls? Or do they even have governments?
       
      [Michael Entity] The politics of any given region or period of time usually describe the friction between the approaching paradigm and the current paradigm, each respectively defined by the approaching dominant Soul Age and the current dominant Soul Age. Many of the names assigned to the varying "parties" are tedious and unnecessary, so we will speak in broader terms here.
       
      NOTE FROM TROY: Some editing was done from the original text as I asked Michael for clarifications and questioned a couple of the original details. Also, the true definitions and delineations for all of the political/governmental systems can really get complicated, so Michael's response seems to be exactly what they've said, a "broader" perspective, at best. They did explain to me that there are really only three political systems, but a multitude of systems within those systems.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      It could be said that the following political systems are associated in this way:
       
      Infant Souls have no politics or order, and are therefore at the mercy of whatever dominant political system is in place at the time. However, they may be most comfortable with Dictatorship, which would be implemented by Baby Souls.
       
      The Baby/Young politics have shown up as Dictatorship, Capitalism, and Socialism.
       
      The Young/Mature politics have shown up as Monarchy, Republic, Socialism, and Communism.
       
      The Mature/Old politics have shown up as Monarchy, Democracy, and Anarchy.
       
      Old Soul politics return to a state of no politics, but more of what might be considered Anarchy. We use the word "anarchy" in its true definition, not as the Young or Mature soul might exploit the term. The anarchy usually takes on a form that would be recognized as Tribalism.
       
      In response to your questions:
       
      We would say that the politics of your current world are exactly indicative of the shifts from the dominant paradigm/soul age to another.
       
      From what we can see of other populations dominated by Old Soul Ages and paradigms, there are no governments that you would recognize beyond being more tribal groups in communication and exchange with one another, but with no discernible leader or authority.
       
      This is one of the reasons our teaching is particularly attractive to the older soul, since there is no discernible authority beyond the self, and even the sense of self is held in question to a degree that allows for sensitive consideration of all factors involved in the life.
       
      An Old Soul world is similar.
       
      [QUESTION] I realize my background in government is obviously lacking when I ask this question, but: Is there any distinguishable difference between a democracy and a republic according to Michael's perception? By including both, it seems to be implied that there is a difference.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      We differentiate a Republic from a Democracy in that a Republic has a more specifically-defined body of qualified voters or elected representatives, while a Democracy seeks to include all people, even those who might not be obviously qualified. The concept of Democracy can get confusing in some cultures such as in the United States because several forms of government are in place. Rather than a pure Democracy, the United States is far more accurately described as a Republic, which is a form of Democracy, but not true Democracy. In addition to this, the general promotion of Democracy is run from an Authoritarian perspective, or as a Plutocracy, to be specific. It could be said that the Physical economy of the United States is run by Plutocratic (authoritarian) politics, while the Emotional economy is run by Republican (Democratic) methods, and this is to be considered when looking at politics. There are Physical, Emotional, Intellectual, and Spiritual levels of Politics and Economy to consider in any system.
       
      The closest to an old soul political system that exists in your world today is what is experienced as "the Internet."
       
      [QUESTION] How are the Internet and politics related?
       
      [Michael Entity]
      If "politics" is seen as a term to describe how a body of people govern themselves and resolve apparent conflicts, then the Internet could be seen as a system of politics. In this case, as would be the case for the Old Soul world, COMMUNICATION would be at the core of those politics, or the INTELLECT as economy.
       
      The Infant Soul uses Freedom; the Baby Soul uses Authority; the Young Soul uses Capital; the Mature Soul uses Well-Being; and the Old Soul uses Communication at the root of their politics.
       
      The "ultimate" political system, in the end, will have to utilize all of these factors to govern a mix of soul ages. Hence, the politics of a Democracy or a Republic will include previous political emphases to some degree, but with the more current politics being the emphasis.
       
      [QUESTION] And so, just as we are doing here in this chat, everyone determines for themselves, and then relates to the outside world through communication. but as an autonomous being similarly engaged with other autonomous beings/people? Something like this?
       
      [Michael Entity]
      We think we have understood your question and we would agree. It could be said then that the politics of the Old Soul are CONTEXTUAL. Certain politics apply within specific instances, but are not seen as appropriate across the board. And each person determines his or her level of compliance within certain contexts, or freely moves to more appropriate contexts.
       
      We realize this is far from being deeply explored, but we will move on now.
       
      [QUESTION] Since we acquire new bodies each lifetime, why do we still carry "memories" of injuries from past lives into new lifetimes? How does this work? For ex. my back pain has been channeled as being from an injury from a past life that I am working out.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      One only carries "memories" of injuries into a current life when those injuries or memories are relevant to the current life. They are never random, and never literal. For instance, your back pain is a manifestation of similar patterns being explored within this lifetime that are resonant to other lifetimes of similar exploration. It is not that the injury was literally carried over, but that you are doing similar things in a similar way that then resonate to that other lifetime. That resonance can help in healing the current injury only insofar as insights can be gained from experiences integrated by your Essence from that lifetime. The resonance to the other lifetime is not to give justification or distraction from your current ailments, but to allow a means of direct access to the wisdom stored by Essence from that lifetime.
       
      If one can imagine one lifetime as one point on a line, while another lifetime is another point at a distance on that line, and then imagine a line being drawn from one lifetime to another, that line CANNOT be "drawn" without first creating an arc through Essence, which is "above the line." Often Personality can relate to other Personalities before it can relate to Essence, so it "remembers" (or receives through a channel) the reference to another lifetime of similarity, but this is merely a method for indirectly accessing Essence. Keeping that in mind can help the point of that remembering and resonance.
       
      However, to be more specific in response to your question, it is not the injury that carries over, nor the memory, but the PATTERNS that are stored in your Instinctive Center, which is pulled from one lifetime and then "inserted" into another lifetime. This is not a literal event, but the image is helpful. It can also hep to think of it as a program, or a collection of programs/software that is now available to the new personality. Depending on the choices of the current personality, certain programs/software/patterns will emerge for use, and many will not.
       
      In your case, QUESTIONER, you have called upon a theme of self-esteem issues, and these issues are often ignored or overridden on the emotional or intellectual levels to a degree that physical manifestation helps in tending to that theme of issues. You will then find resonance to lifetimes where a similar physical injury or ailment was being explored for similar reasons.
       
      [QUESTION] Could Michael suggest some energy-work on such an issue?
       
      [Michael Entity]
      The "energy work" for any given ailment would have to be relative to the ailment and the individual, but we can say that any chronic aching that is related to self-esteem issues would require "energy work" on the Emotional Body as a focal point, while emphasis of RELIEF on the Physical Body will help in allowing that focus. This energy work on the Emotional Body might be anything from cathartic expression to gestalt therapies to flotation therapies to singing therapies to permission therapies that allow for more of what one craves, etc.
       
      We wish to point out here that the patterns carried over from one lifetime to another are only brought into reality by the choices of the current personality. For instance, there have have been lifetimes for the Questioner that have been lived between the past life back injury and the back injury of this lifetime. Back pain was not an issue in those lifetimes between.
       
      A more poetic way to understand this might be that the songs heard from other lifetimes depends on the melodies played by this one.
       
      [QUESTION] I would like more information on the upcoming (or current??) nexus. It feels to me as if everything over a period of some months has been leading to this (at least for me personally.) Lots of old wounds and even fear patterns (particularly self-esteem, self-worth issues) have been triggered. I recognize them for what they are, but I need to find a way to stay focused on what it is that I want to create, particularly in terms of my career. I am also dealing with a boss who has a very different approach to life than I do. I am guessing she is some combination of sage/priest/warrior - very focused, driven (passion mode?) energy though even though I think she is emotionally centered. Whereas, even though I am a scholar, and intellectually centered, my approach is more fuzzy, diffuse, and go with the flow, or at least it feels that way. Any suggestions here? Please direct your answer in any way that would be helpful to others in general. I can follow up with Troy on the more personal aspects later.
       
      [Michael Entity]
      What we can say about the upcoming Nexus is that there seems to be an exploration of the concept of COMPARISONS/CONTRASTS. This seems to be resulting from the enthusiasm/collapse extremes that we have described for many of our students. The enthusiasm comes from the Persistence energy that pushes beyond the collapsing experience of Unchanging energy. It is fair to compare and contrast the unchanging energy with the persistent energy, or the collapsing energy with the enthusiastic energy, but will not be fair to oneself to presume one is stuck in this pattern indefinitely, or to presume one has to remain in one or the other.
       
      In light of this, many of you may find representatives of your inner enthusiasm/collapse around you.
       
      In your case, it could be said that your "boss" represents the enthusiasm, while "you" represent the collapses. This then leads to your attributing distaste for enthusiasm because your boss expresses it differently from what you would, and this leads to distaste for yourself since you see most easily the collapse in you.
       
      [QUESTION] and how to move beyond this?
       
      [Michael Entity] What one could do, using your example, is to try what we suggested in our Energy Report, which is to DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. In this case, it might mean to flip and reverse your perspective and interpretations in a completely enlightening and revitalizing way (instead of in the debilitating way that is your current pattern). Allow your boss to be the wonderful representative of how you create your collapses, and for yourself to represent what actually inspires your enthusiasm. In other words, doing things your way actually leads to productivity, creativity, and meaning, while doing things her way leads to confusion, overwhelm, and hopelessness.
       
      [QUESTIONER] I'm not quite grasping this
       
      [Michael Entity]
      If we are seeing the situation clearly, we would say that your collapses come in your comparing yourself to others forms of productivity and trying to implement methods not natural to you, whereas realizing what does and does not work for you allows for you to implement practices that encourage your enthusiasm and do not require you to conform to anyone else's methods.
       
      We believe we may be getting into personal territory and will halt our response here, but simply point out that the upcoming Nexus is one that emphasizes CONTRASTS and COMPARISONS and this is to allow for heightened awareness of what IS and IS NOT working for you in various areas of your life. The process of Comparing and Contrasting can often feel like self-judgment or judgment of others, and it is just that, but it is not something to be feared. It is simply a natural method for navigating life. To fear it is to remain stuck. To remain stuck is to remain at the extreme of collapse.
       
      We will conclude here, then. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
    • Janet
      By Janet
      December 6, 2001
      Troy Tolley, Channel
      Centers and Body Types
       
      Note from Janet: Although the intent for the topic was Centers and Body Types, no discussion of Body Types occurred.
       
      [Michael_Entity]
      We are here. Hello to all of you.
       
      We will begin with the Energy Report as we see it for the weeks of December 9 through the 22nd.
       
      It is, of course, not a coincidence that many of you have begun discussing the properties and personal experiences of the Centers, as many of you are shifting into next year’s basic Centering at this time. Though a year’s “Overleaves” are not defined entirely and are not static at any given time, there is an overall set that does appear to have influence over varying levels of consciousness, at least symbolically. In the case of Older Souls, that set of influences can begin to take place in the few months before the new year.
       
      We will also note an unusual phenomenon that is occurring for all of you: currently, in such a short time span between them, another larger Nexus Shift occurs. It is not uncommon for great shifts to occur throughout a year, but another shift is beginning on the 10th, and another in January/February, while this is all following the large shift in November. These shifts with little “breaks” between them are creating a great amount of shifting in levels of Energy among your Overleaves and your ability to participate in the world. There appear to be distinct days when your energy seems quite inspired and above normal, while the next few will find you seeming to be locked in an infinite stream of constricting thoughts and low energy. For some this will feel like “limbo,” while for others this can feel “manic.”
       
      The Center for the next year, at this time, appears to be Moving, with bursts of Higher Moving. Unless you are Moving Centered, yourself, this is going to begin to feel like a time of shifting into OBVIOUS manifestations of what you are DOING.
       
      (We remind you that our Energy Reports are not predictions, they are merely comments on patterns and how you might be able to use them or dismiss them.)
       
      Having a field of Moving Centered Energy as the context for a period of time can mean a great deal of attention would be coming to the body and its relationship to its environment. We are speaking of its Physical environment, which can translate into a range from its sources of stimulation, affection, and activity, to its ability to use the finer energies that make up and create the Physical Plane.
       
      Some of you may begin to pull out your old copies of teachings which focus on the concepts of “creating your own reality” and take a more active approach to reality than usual. While others may begin to feel overwhelmed by the “responsibility” that the Moving Centers imply while Physical.
       
      Besides the fact of what you call “the holidays,” a stronger and stronger desire to be with those whom you care for and feel part of will begin to be a priority.
       
      If these basic trends continues and the next year continues with the Moving Centered theme, we will be able to comment more accurately on how it might manifest. For now, a primary theme appears to be those points we just mentioned, along with a heightened awareness of your food intake and ability to literally move (health).
       
      We will conclude the report here and take any questions about it before we discuss the Centers.
       
      [Kathryn] Many of us, myself included, have been feeling very drained and tired or just down lately. Is this the reaction to this energy report influence?
       
      [Michael_Entity]
      We don't believe the Energy Report itself has any influence as such, but the Energy, itself, we are reporting about may very well be what you are responding/reacting to.
       
      For those who have any kind of health deficiencies, however minute, the Moving Center will markedly “force” the body into a position that is more inclined to facilitate recovery. This can be sleep, mental distraction, high activity, anger, etc., but it’s point is to facilitate recovery.
       
      Another important factor to consider is the inherent nature of any Nexus having a sedating effect on the Human body as realities shift and creativity on another level is affecting the body. You do “create reality,” and that still uses energy. Most of the time, that energy is being held preciously by the Personality for reasons it doesn't even understand. The sedation and “tired phase” allows the “grip” to loosen and your reality can then free up some energy for changes to be made.
       
      Most of you have your Personalities quite in charge of your lives, even if it doesn't quite “know” what to do. When a shift is needed and the Personality is choosing to work with Essence, the Personality will gladly concede and “take a nap.” At some point, in some lifetime, a shift will happen wherein the Personality and Essence are aligned enough that control is not shifted from one to the other, but is shared.
       
      If there are no other questions on the Energy Report, we will discuss CENTERING. We feel there is no need to introduce the Centering to you, as many of you are already fairly studied in this area of our teaching. We will, however, respond to all of your questions about this area so as to clarify and help with the application of the information.
       
      [MaryBV] How does centering affect memory?
       
      [Michael_Entity]
      ALL Centers have their form of Memory in storage and retrieval.
       
      The Intellect stores and retrieves memory in the form of Thoughts, Ideas, and is Visually interpreted.
       
      The Emotional memories are stored and retrieved in the form what are commonly understood as Feelings, Emotions, and are Aurally interpreted.
       
      The Moving stores and retrieves its memories in the forms of Health, Activity, and are Sensually interpreted.
       
      Each Center does affect how events are remembered; especially in the mixture of the Centering with the Part.
       
      The Intellect affects the memory with its level of beliefs and justifications; the Emotions affect memory with its sentimentality and attachments; the Moving affects the memory through its levels of vitality and productivity at the time.
       
      For each of these examples above, they are only part of how each Center may affect memory, and those factors always stem from the PRESENT (retrieval), not how or what was stored.
       
      Each Center is involved in Memory, of course, but the habitual Centering will affect how a fragment's memory is used habitually.
       
      Each Ordinal Center is referencing memory of the current lifetime and physicality. If more information outside of that realm is required or resonating, it is then drawn through the Higher of that Center. The Instinctive Center is the communication medium between the Cardinal and Ordinal.
       
      Since the Instinct/Assimilation is usually maintaining the task of protection of the body, most memory filtered there is decidedly fearful or not. This is why most long-standing memories are either decidedly joyful or painful.
       
      We can continue to extrapolate on this topic, but we will ask if we are answering your question appropriate to your intent.
       
      [MaryBV] Well, I should have asked also how the role plays into this, but that is probably a topic for a whole discussion.
       
      [Michael_Entity] The Roles play little part in how memory is used or affected, since each lifetime sets a new design for the body and the Body/Personality is the tool for memory. The Essence's choice of Overleaves is the most direct impact. Since Time is not a factor for Essence, it does not have the need for “memory” as it is experienced on the Physical Plane.
       
      [MaryBV] I see, so what accounts for smell/taste, etc., in memory?
       
      [Michael_Entity] Every Cell and Atom in your body has the ability to “remember,” which means it has the ability to re-create. When the Personality or Body calls on a memory to be reconstructed, it will call on these minute parts of self to participate. It is of no mystery that you can recall a scene in a movie, which is Visual, but it is no more a mystery for the other senses to have that ability to reconstruct, as well.
       
      [WickedBear] Could you discuss the fundamental differences between the two action centers?
       
      [Michael_Entity]
      The most fundamental difference is in that the Ordinal pertains to the immediate environment of the Personality and Body, while the Cardinal pertains to all that encompasses that. The Moving Center, then, would govern and process the events of the actual, Physical Body and its health, activity, manipulation of environment, etc. The Higher Moving Center would then govern and process those similar things, but as they pertain to larger patterns that include everything pertaining to the Essence.
       
      It could be said that the Moving Center is the manifestation/expression of that particular Personality's part in the Higher Moving tapestry of the Essence.
       
      [Elf] Is the Part of Center chosen about the same time as the Centering? And what is most influential in that choice?
       
      [Michael_Entity]
      Centering is chosen by the age of 3 in most cases, while the Part/Trap is a habit by the age of 7 (approximately).
       
      The most influential aspect of that choice is in the major theme then settled on for the lifetime as to how to process events. The Center/Part becomes the Body's primary strength and challenge, and sets the stage for relationships, health, and beliefs for the majority of the life. Depending on your Centering and Part, you will find that your PART/TRAP becomes the defining obstacle to hurdle in coming to peace with a lifetime.
       
      If the balance can be called upon for any Center, regardless of habit, then a great freedom is experienced within the lifetime. The first examination of this is in the 4th Internal Monad when the Part is either simply a Part, or continues to be the Trap. Most will find as the life progresses that the Part becomes the Trap, the more they ignore the need for that third Center to be incorporated. As part of the process for finding that balance, the neglected Center will eventually require attention.
       
      For those lacking in the Moving Center, then health, prosperity, material security, physical need for affection and validation can become stages for its balance.
       
      For those lacking in the Intellectual Center, then over-questioning, overwhelm, isolation, indecisiveness, and unacknowledged dependence on others for direction are examples of where the imbalance can show up.
       
      For those lacking in the Emotional Center, then alienation, hypercriticism, unacknowledged issues of rejection, can tend to be some of the arenas for balance.
       
      [Elf] Thank you. So the Part/Trap of Center is then somewhat a part of the Life Task?
       
      [Michael_Entity]
      Yes, the Centering/Part are intrinsically linked to the Tasks of the Life. Centering habits tend to define how the Personality uses its 4 “pillars,” of which the Life Task (True Work), is one of those pillars. Your True Rest is directly linked to the use of your neglected Center. Your True Work is directly relating to the Goal.
       
      The Centering/Part is not inherently a challenge to your Life Task, but it is a powerful definition of the path.
       
      And with that, we will conclude. Good Night.
    • Janet
      By Janet
      This material was obtained in a private session on December 12, 2019.
       
      Note from Janet: I asked a question about the IM status of a young man. I've removed identifying info and some content to preserve privacy, but I thought the info about early 4th IM might be generally useful.
       
      Janet: For now, what is his current IM status?
       
      MEntity:
      His Internal Monad status is working through the 4th Internal Monad by revisiting unfinished processes of the 3rd Internal Monad. ... You are witnessing this inner process in many of his words. ... Patience is also necessary.
       
      If you speak as the authority, it will be harder to hear, but if you speak as one who understands and wishes to help honor his exploration of his own authority, it is likely to be received well.
       
      There are soul age manifestations in fluctuation as he works on himself.
       
      Janet: Do many young people experiencing an “early” 4th IM have similar issues?
       
      MEntity: Yes, it is a familiar pattern. Early 4th Internal Monad can reveal all of the ways in which one still must become the authority in one's life while still dependent upon the authority in the current life. If the 3rd Internal Monad is thoroughly resolved, this is less confusing, but still a challenge. If the 3rd Internal Monad is resolved, but remains with areas to revisit, it can be quite disorienting and disruptive, leading to bouts of rebellion and retaliation rather than cooperation and conscious choice. The point of the 3rd Internal Monad is not to reject all authority in the life, but to add your own to it in a way that works together.
    • Kasia
      By Kasia
      OMW - Aug 17, 2013 - The Next Step
       
      Channel: Troy Tolley

      [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here, now. We can begin our discussion on the chosen subject.
       
      [MEntity] Based on the subject of interest today, we will share with you a way to understand the process and progress for any endeavor for fulfillment of a plan, ideal, vision, transformation, goal, relationship, career, etc. There is little variation among the processes and progresses of any aim.
       
      [MEntity] As with all processes and progression, there are 7 Steps or Stages. Many may already be familiar with these in a basic way, but we will expand upon these today in a way that may help you more directly in your own process and progress.
       
       
      THE SEVEN STAGES

      [MEntity] The 7 Stages are fairly simple: Initiation, Discernment, Stability, Disruption, Healing, Gratitude, and Neutrality.
       
      [MEntity] Anything or anyone to which you commit will take these 7 Stages for your process and progression into that commitment. There are rarely any exceptions to this.
       
      [MEntity] Depending upon the length of time in the commitment, these 7 Stages may be cycled through many times, indefinitely, in various degrees of intensity, demand, and obviousness.
       
      [MEntity] This is only in terms of COMMITMENT, not the fulfillment of the commitment.
       
      [MEntity] In other words, if you are trying to break a habit, that process is a commitment, but once that habit is broken, the commitment is fulfilled, and the stages end.
       
      [MEntity] If you are committing yourself to a long-term relationship, once the relationship is embraced, the stages of commitment are completed.
       
      [MEntity] You are "done" with the challenges of that commitment, the efforts through the stages, and there is usually no "going back" then.
       
      [MEntity] Are all of you familiar with these stages?
       
      [Diane_HB] Sounds familiar
      [Janet] I think so, but not in this context of fulfilling a goal
      [Nadine_AP] i think so
      [GeraldineB] I don't know how Stability and Disruption play out
      [Bobby] Stability would come before Disruption though?
      [GeraldineB] apparently
       
       
      [MEntity] We will expand on each, briefly:
       
      [MEntity] INITIATION - the start of the effort of commitment.
      [MEntity] We will use the example of the commitment to "lose weight."
      [MEntity] The idea then is to lose weight. It is the start of the general direction.
       
      [MEntity] DISCERNMENT - the clarification vital to the fulfillment of the commitment.
      [MEntity] The general idea is focused down to how one will lose the weight. A plan is made.
       
      [MEntity] STABILITY - the implementation of the clarified efforts necessary for the fulfillment of the commitment.
      [MEntity] The individual is now working out, dieting, and sticking to the goal.
       
      [MEntity] DISRUPTION - stability is shaken up by an outside force or internal obstacle
       
      [MEntity] HEALING - the disruption is addressed, confronted, dealt with in a productive and healthy way.
      [MEntity] The failing and setbacks over the holidays are put into perspective and taken for what they were (a matter of simple, joyful indulgence), and there is a return to the momentum of commitment.
       
      [MEntity] GRATITUDE - the appreciation of the necessity for all that has come to be a part of the process and progress of one's fulfillment of the commitment.
      [MEntity] This is when it is noticed that the efforts are "paying off," that the setbacks, obstacles, and challenges were only a PART of the process, not the derailing of the progress.
      [MEntity] The experience of the holiday distraction is learned from, and ideas more aligned with the commitment are decided upon for the next holidays, knowing that even a failing to do so will not be "the end" of the commitment.
       
      [MEntity] NEUTRALITY - the final fulfillment of the commitment, or a necessary break from the efforts of the commitment.
       
       
      [MEntity] That is a brief synopsis of the Stages of Commitment that are relevant to your understanding where you are in your own processes and progress of fulfilling a commitment.
       
      [MEntity] Keep in mind that, in terms of the subject of this workshop, your "next step" may be a part of one of these stages, and not necessarily parallel to the next stage. So, "next step" here does not mean "next stage."
       
      [MEntity] Your next step will be a customized and unique ingredient of the process and progress through these 7 Stages, and one fragment's next step is not the same as another's, even as all fragments do still go through all of the same Stages.
       
      [MEntity] Do you understand?
       
      [GeraldineB] no
       
      [MEntity] Geraldine, for example:
       
      [MEntity] The person making the commitment to "lose weight" may be in Stage 3, Stability, of her process through to losing weight. The Stage of Stability can last a great length of time. She or he may be on a roll with keeping up with exercise and thoughtful diet. As a PART of sustaining that Stability, it is not always a matter of doing the same things over and over. He or she may find that sticking to the diet and exercise is going well, but is now concerned about lack of variety, repetitive routines, and realizes he or she will probably lose momentum if stuck in such routines.
       
      [MEntity] This is not the same thing as Disruption, the next STAGE, as Disruption truly interferes with the momentum. Instead, this is a matter of this fragment determining the "next step" in terms of sustaining Stability.
       
      [GeraldineB] thank you, I get it
      [Maureen] It's like a "side-step"
       
      [MEntity] So she decides to move off of the treadmill and run the park's paths. She decides to learn more about what options there are for food choices.
       
      [MEntity] Her "next step," then, was to implement Variety.
       
      [MEntity] This will not stop the Disruption from coming, but that understanding of the necessity for Variety will be a final part of the set of ingredients when commitment is fulfilled and concluded.
       
       
      [MEntity] QUESTION FOR STUDENTS: can you assess where you think you may be in your process of commitment regarding your focus?
       
      [GeraldineB] I'm in Discernment
      [ClaireC] Initiation, for me.
      [Janet] I have a longer term goal. I think I'm in the Discernment stage and may be there for awhile.
      [Nadine_AP] I guess I'm more or less lost right now in my process - probably discernment.
      [Maureen] I'm "stuck" in Discernment -- I think.
      [Bobby] Even though mine seems like a fairly new endeavor, I feel like I've experienced all of these to some degree anyway
       
      [MEntity] If there are no more responses, we will continue.
       
      [Diane_HB] Disruption, I think
      [Diane_HB] Or possibly Discernment still
      [AnnH] I am stuck in discernment.
      [Maureen] popular stage... 
      [Nadine_AP] lol
      [GeraldineB] we are good at plan-making, but not so good at execution
      [AnnH] I can find all kinds of ways I can't implement 
      [Maureen] I can't even get my head around the plan...  LOL
      [Nadine_AP] Maureen,same with me 
       
      [MEntity] What we will share now is the greater dimensions of each of these Stages so that you can understand the underpinnings of each Stage. Comprehending the underpinnings of each Stage can help you to better clarify where you are in the process, and are keys to helping you move through the process with greater ease, helping you to both make breakthroughs and to clarify your next step.
       
      [MEntity] We might term these greater dimensions and underpinnings as STATES. 
       
      [MEntity] So, Initiation is a STATE OF POTENTIAL.
       
      [MEntity] When you are in the Initiating Stage, you are in a State of Potential. Nothing is defined, refined, clarified. You are exploring your options and will tend to have your ideals, projections, and expectations intact.
       
      [MEntity] Think of this in the same way one might enter a relationship. This is the state similar to "falling in love." This is not to say that it will feel like "falling in love," but that falling in love tends to bring with it a great open-ended world of potential.
       
      [MEntity] Only the general intent is here.
       
      [MEntity] Many do not like to leave this State.
       
      [MEntity] Many will hold their intentions in this State for the entire lifetime.
       
      [Nadine_AP] I think I'm trying to pass from Initiation to Discernment then
      [AnnH] Yep
      [Maureen] I feel too shitty to be in Initiation ...it sure doesn't feel like "love".
      [Nadine_AP] oh, maureen, it doesn't in my case either! It's a little bit distressing, because I can see the potentials but can't figure out how to get there
      [Maureen] Unless it's the all-consuming, stalking kind...  
      [GeraldineB] Maybe, you have to break your goal down into smaller chunks that ARE do-able
      [Maureen] That's the advice I give to Clients!
      [GeraldineB] LOL
      [Nadine_AP] I'm trying
      [GeraldineB] Healer, heal thyself 
      [Maureen] LOL
       
      [MEntity] "Falling in love" is very different from Love. Falling in love may be experienced as a pleasant state, but it is full of projections, expectations, and ideals that make it relevant for comparison to the STATE OF POTENTIAL. 
       
      [MEntity] If you prefer a different comparison, it can also be like the "world after graduation," or "the day with no plan," or for some of you, like entering a "haunted fun house in the dark."
       
      [Maureen] LOL
      [Diane_HB] lol
       
      [MEntity] We chose the comparison to "falling in love," but the STATE OF POTENTIAL also can be like "falling into fear."
       
      [Nadine_AP] lol...falling in love always felt like falling into fear for me...
       
      [MEntity] And then there is that.
       
      [MEntity] The STATE OF POTENTIAL is wrought with options and mixes and directions, all variations of Love and Fear.
       
      [Maureen] Michael -- do the Attitudes affect how one can get through the Stages? I can see how the Attitudes may play out. I'm a Realist -- I see so many factors that it’s daunting.
       
      [AnnH] Me, too, Maureen.
      [ClaireC] It's really easy for a Spiritualist to stay in Potential forever.  
       
      [MEntity] Understanding the State of Potential can help one to do two things: reclaim yourself as the source of the creation of your potential, and then to consciously choose more toward Love.
       
      [MEntity] This removes the "falling" part, and helps to put you back into the role of Creator.
       
      [Nadine_AP] How could I consciously choose more toward Love?
       
      [MEntity] Nadine, we will address questions shortly so that we can address each of you more personally. We suggest noting your questions as we go along, so we can return to them with you.
       
      [Nadine_AP] okay
       
      [MEntity] So, for some of you in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, in the Initiation Stage, your next step is some variation on CHOICE.
      [MEntity] The most effective way one can move into a next step when in the Initiation Stage, and in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, is to SIMPLIFY.
      [MEntity] Bring everything down to the simplest of facts, focus, and intention.
      [MEntity] When in the STATE OF POTENTIAL, it is helpful to go silent, to be still, to stop all distractions, and sit down with yourself and your intention.
      [MEntity] Physically write down your intention and all of the scenarios or potential, and you will see that it may not be as overwhelming or daunting or consuming as you thought or felt.
       
      [MEntity] What tends to happen is that one is in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, in The Stage of Initiation, and then thinks that the Discernment Stage is what comes next.
      [MEntity] This is the equivalent of stating that you have realized you can choose whatever you want, but have no clue from what options are you choosing.
      [MEntity] This is quite similar to how the Internal Monads work, in that if one exits the previous state/stage in a negative pole, then the next will remain there, as well.
       
      [MEntity] So if one does not consciously assess what options are available, what directions are preferred, what ideal is of interest, what results are being sought, etc., then the Discernment Stage tends to only emphasize everything that is lacking in potential.
       
      [MEntity] The daunting aspects are highlighted. The intensity is heightened. The doubts are amplified.
       
      [MEntity] Imagine that you have decided you want to create a beautiful dress, but completely bypass the process of exploring and narrowing down the possible fabrics from which to choose. You now move into the next stage and it becomes emphasized what you have not done and cannot do.
       
      [MEntity] However, if you have your 10 fabrics out in front of you and then move into the next Stage, you can now Discern, choose the ingredients that will become the dress.
       
      [MEntity] That simplification effort in the first stage as a way to sort out the state of potential drastically changes the process of discernment that comes next.
      [MEntity] This is true of relationships, projects, transforming habits, etc.
       
      [MEntity] It can take many years for one to realize that there are vital, but few, criteria for what one truly expects from an intimate relationship. For many years the State of Potential is riddled with the chaos of fantasies, projections, wounding, all of which are then emphasized upon entering the Discernment Stage because the commitment will not work or be fulfilled without those elements addressed.
       
      [MEntity] When one has consciously owned the role of source and creator of his or her potential, and then sorts out what is of interest from all of that potential, and uses choice as a way to navigate away from fear and toward love, the Discernment Stage then becomes a matter of refinement, not discouragement.
       
      [MEntity] The Discernment Stage is a process of emphasizing What Will Work, and What Will Not Work in regard to the commitment.
       
      [MEntity] If the work of sorting has been done, then the emphasis will tend toward What Will Work, though both what will work and what will not are always explored to some degree.
       
      [MEntity] And just like the Internal Monads, if you find that you are in a Stage of Discernment overwhelmed with discouragement, you can "go back" to your POTENTIAL and SIMPLIFY as a way to help move you back into refinement and encouragement.
       
      [Nadine_AP]: How could I consciously choose more toward Love?
       
      [MEntity] Sometimes the experience of choosing more toward Love is so unfamiliar (at least in terms of consciously doing so) that it can be much easier to simply NOT CHOOSE Fear.
       
      [MEntity] By "not choose fear," we mean that you actively utilize fear as a source of insight and information, but not as a source of direction or conclusion. 
       
      [Nadine_AP] yes, that makes sense! 
       
      [MEntity] If you are worried about the pressures of finance while seeking directions of career, then you have the capacity to resolve the conflict between doing what you CAN do for the sake of income, even as you aim for a more long-term move toward what you love. 
       
      [Nadine_AP] Wow, that helps a lot actually!
      [ClaireC] "Love is letting go of fear" (Attitudinal Healing)
       
      [MEntity] In doing something such as this, there is the choice toward love because you are taking care of yourself AS you create, rather than presuming that your taking care of yourself is a defeating move away from other options.
       
      [Nadine_AP] I understand. Thank you!
       
      [MEntity] We think this may be helpful to consider as a specific response for you, Nadine. We will continue on now for greater context for when you explore this further.
       
      [MEntity] Before we continue: how many of you feel you must return to the STATE OF POTENTIAL to SIMPLIFY and clarify?
       
      [AnnH] To an extent, yes.
      [Nadine_AP] I do.
      [GeraldineB] I don't -- I've got my goal as cut and dried as possible
      [Diane_HB] Not for the issue I have in mind.
      [Maureen] I need to return someplace -- because it's not working now...
      [Janet] No. I have written down my goal and I think I'm good.
      [ClaireC] I think I'm actually in Discernment now.

      [MEntity] Geraldine, the goal can be crystal clear, but this is only helpful if the projections, expectations, and fears have been addressed so that the Stage of Discernment is then encouraging, not discouraging.
       
      [GeraldineB] Let me clarify -- My Goal is to Stop Smoking. As part of my Discernment, I have a new month's prescription to take of Chantix, an aid to stopping smoking. Plus, this time, I've set a date: August 31, 2013. One of the reasons I'm going to push through this bad habit this time is due to health concerns; so, for me the "choosing with love," would be for myself. Should I add in a request for Essence and Guides to help? as in sending me positive thoughts when I'm wavering?
       
      [MEntity] We would agree with your assessment, but we added our comment for those who may think that the clarity of Goal is enough. The goal will draw one forward, but not necessarily toward a fulfilling conclusion, if the POTENTIAL has not been clarified for Discernment.
       
      [MEntity] We have gone into detail about this initial stage because this is where many may have to return as a means to move forward toward fulfillment of a goal, but we will quickly describe the remaining States as associated with the Stages.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Discernment has as its foundation a State of RECIPROCITY.
       
      [MEntity] While in the Stage of Discernment, the emphasis can splay widely between discouragement and encouragement, emphasizing what will not work, and what will work, often leaning toward one direction or the other, depending on the work in The Stage of Initiation.
       
      [MEntity] A key to the underpinning of this Stage is Reciprocity, or the circuit created through giving and receiving.
       
      [MEntity] What many tend to do in this Stage of Discernment is to shut down, recoil, hide, enter into waves of shame, embarrassment, or even instill a kind of taboo against the sharing of where one is in the struggle toward Stability.
       
      [MEntity] This is a Stage where many give up.
       
      [GeraldineB] oh, I know that one
      [Diane_HB] me too
      [Maureen] I;m too embarrassed to say "me too"  -- LOL
      [Diane_HB] lol
      [GeraldineB] LOL
      [ClaireC] lol
      [AnnH] yep
       
      [MEntity] However, the STATE OF RECIPROCITY is enhanced through the practice of giving and receiving, helping others to do what you wish to do, joining with others in similar directions, asking for help in your progress, allowing the help, etc.
       
      [MEntity] In an intimate relationship, it is about addressing what has come as differences between you that describe what is working and what is not working. 
       
      [MEntity] So for some of you in the STATE OF RECIPROCITY in the Discernment Stage, your next step is some variation on COMMUNICATION.
       
      [MEntity] The most effective way one can move into the next step when in the Discernment Stage, and in a STATE OF RECIPROCITY, is through SOPHISTICATION, the refinement of choice. This means you no longer simply react, do as you always do, or unconsciously push forward. It means you take a moment to think, to feel, to make a choice from consciousness, not defense or habit.
       
      [MEntity] The STATE OF RECIPROCITY and the Stage of Discernment is about learning, putting into effect, and implementing, all of which require communication and growing sophistication.
       
      [MEntity] Remember that the Stage may be completed, but the State carries forward, so RECIPROCITY will continue to be a part of the commitment, meaning that communication will end up being a vital ingredient in the fulfilled commitment.
       
      [MEntity] Giving and Receiving.
       
       
      [MEntity] More quickly then, the remaining Stages:
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Stability is supported by the STATE OF KARMA, or CAUSALITY.
       
      [Janet] I actually think I'm in Stability rather than Discernment now.
       
      [MEntity] This is where one truly begins to see the results of actions and efforts, and those actions and efforts are tweaked, modified, corrected, observed, etc.
       
      [MEntity] Before this, most of the commitment was in a more idealistic place, while Stability brings with it the momentum and realization.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related, then, to EFFORT. 
       
      [MEntity] And the effectiveness of that effort is supported by DEVOTION, which is the recognition that one's efforts are toward something of great value and worth.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Disruption has as its foundation a STATE OF SURRENDER.
       
      [MEntity] This is, basically, the embrace of the fact that "shit is going to happen."
       
      [MEntity] Sometimes there are forces greater than you that you cannot control, or that you allow to take control, in a way that interferes with your intentions. It happens.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to HONESTY, and that honesty is supported by AFFECTION, or the capacity to empathize, be kind, gentle, patient, etc.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Healing has its foundation a STATE OF PRESENCE.
       
      [MEntity] This is where you own your mistakes, own your process, your responsibility, your power, your intention, your choice, etc. Blame and excuse are useless here, and you recover from what knocked you for a loop.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to FORGIVENESS, and that forgiveness is supported by EVOLUTION, or the meaning that you attribute to your experiences.
       
       
      [MEntity] The State of Gratitude has as its foundation a STATE OF NON-ATTACHMENT.
       
      [MEntity] This is an ironic and paradoxical State where you begin to detach from that which has been a commitment, and experience it as a PART of you, not YOU. It is another thing, another person, another step, but they are a part of you, not YOU.
       
      [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to APPRECIATION, and supported by WHOLENESS, or the awareness of being greater than the sum of parts.
       
       
      [MEntity] The Stage of Neutrality is supported by the STATE OF MOTIVATION.
       
      [MEntity] This is where one re-examines motives and intentions from a broader perspective.
       
      [MEntity] When this comes between other Stages, next steps tend to be related to REGROUPING, digesting the experiences, and this is supported by STRUCTURE.
       
      [MEntity] When this comes as final stage/state, it is a an assessment for whether to cycle back through the Stages, or to build upon those original motivations, creating new structures from that.
       
       
      [MEntity] Knowing these descriptions can help you to understand where you are in the stages, what states have been carried forward, and what keys are necessary for next steps and the support for those next steps.
       
      [MEntity] Did your sense of where you are in your progress change by seeing the details for each stage/state?
       
      [Janet] Yes, absolutely.
      [ClaireC] Absolutely.
      [AnnH] not exactly. but i often get caught up in discernment, anticipate disruption and give up
      [GeraldineB] it enlarged
       
      [MEntity] Do you feel you can orient yourself better toward an encouraging process?
       
      [GeraldineB] yes, I do
      [AnnH] yes.
      [ClaireC] Yes, and to recognize progress.
      [GeraldineB] I can at least let go of past "failures" -- treat this as a brand new experience
      [AnnH] yes
      [AnnH] good point, g
      [ClaireC] Geraldine, think of it as a U-turn, not a failure.
       
      [MEntity] We will open the floor to your questions now, but we encourage each of you to assess your own progress and process.

      [GeraldineB] I did have an earlier question
      [GeraldineB] Question: Is there an advantage for setting a NEW habit versus breaking an OLD habit?
       
      [MEntity] Our response to this is Yes. Breaking a habit can always be included in the process toward creating something more beneficial, but to aim only toward breaking the habit can similar to stating that you wish to travel, but never getting off of the train.
       
      [MEntity] It is nice to have a destination in mind.

      [AnnH] I find I easily get disracted, hopeless and overwhelmed. What do I need to assess and at what stage?
       
      [MEntity] These are symptoms usually associated with not leaving the STATE OF POTENTIAL, and remaining in the first stage, or of leaving that first stage in a "negative" way to carry forward into further stages. This means that the solution is simplicity and choice. 
       
      [MEntity] We do not seek to minimize the overwhelm or hopelessness or distraction by stating that the solution is so "simple," but we state this as a matter of those more challenging qualities being a part of the spectrum of possibilities from THE POTENTIAL, and they do not have be given such emphasis by choice.
       
      [MEntity] Note that these exist, that they are with you, but you do not have to choose them (as in, presume they are more important to honor than enthusiasm, willingness, importance, etc.).
       
      [MEntity] You may not feel you can choose against those emotions and surges in the body, but you can, and it is a matter of practice. It is your Right. 
      [MEntity] For help in your next steps, it may be of benefit to consider the difference between honoring your feelings and feeding them.
       
      [AnnH] aha--lol, yes.
       
      [MEntity] Choose not to feed them. Let them remain, do not reject them, but do not feed them. As you make different choices, your feelings will eventually feed on what you choose, and this begins the transformation.
       
      [MEntity] So, your next step is to learn how to choose your food, and to choose who/what to feed in you.
      [MEntity] This is simplistic, but fair.

      [Maureen] I can't even formulate a question because I feel too discouraged at this point. I'm normally optimistic about most everything -- so this state is very uncomfortable for me.
      [Maureen] I guess that's more of a statement than a question. 
       
      [MEntity] Then your next step would appear to be into the Stage of Neutrality. You must step back.
      [MEntity] Not only have you lost your Motivation, but you may have forgotten the value of the pursuit altogether.
      [MEntity] In this case, you would want to keep in mind that Neutrality is not giving up. It is not stopping. It is not failing. It is important. 
      [MEntity] Your next steps then are to stop trying, but with the intent to regroup, not give up.
       
      [Maureen] That sounds good Michael -- I'm tired of trying.
       
      [MEntity] Yes, and that is okay. Again, it is your Right. It is not defeat; it is a Right. Stop. Come back to it. It will be there.
       
      [Maureen] Thanks
       
      [MEntity] In some cases, this Neutrality must be modified from complete halt to, at least, giving some amount of attention and effort to the aim, so that will be up to you to consider the ratio for what and how the direction is accommodated without so much consuming of the self.
       
      [MEntity] Our brief responses in this format are not entirely helpful or effective, so we encourage each of you to communicate further in private with us on your progress, if you choose to do so.

      [Diane_HB] I think I'm in Discernment with my goal of improving eyesight. I'm still having a difficult time finding a process that works for me...after 10 years of trying on and off. I think I'm not seeing enough of a benefit to work harder at it -- the practices (particularly the one about keeping my glasses off) conflict with my lifestyle and personality. But I don't like it when my eyesight starts to get worse, so I keep trying. Any comments would be appreciated.
       
      [MEntity] You are in the Stability Stage. Your commitment now is a matter of CAUSALITY, experimentation, tweaking the process of effort. In this Stage, you would want to customize what is being learned to accommodate how it best works for you. During this Stage, you may also find that your eye sight is not such a bad thing after all, and that you discover that your embrace of this as part of you is far more accurate to the healing you were seeking. 
       
      [Diane_HB] Yeah, sometimes I wonder if I really need better eyesight. I just don't want it to get worse.
      [Diane_HB] Maybe that's what I can commit to -- maintenance.
       
      [MEntity] So your next step may be to continue your practice, your Devotion, but without the looming ultimate perfection or failure.
      [MEntity] Maintenance is a healthy term for how to move forward.
       
      [MEntity] We will conclude with a question from Claire.
       
      [ClaireC] Does one have to stick with a new programme until Stability is reached or not reached before abandoning it and going back to Discernment?  e.g. a new diet?
       
      [MEntity] We would not say that one "has to," but that it is a valuable part of the process. If you come to Stability, you can always tweak, replace, or complement your efforts.
       
      [MEntity] For example, if one were to start exercising, the strengthening of the muscles and the stretching of the tendons can bring aching for quite some time, leading one to consider scrapping the intentions. But once stability is reached, it is realized that the aching was symptoms of benefit, and that the exercises can be altered, replaced, mixed up, etc., but not necessary to halt.
       
      [ClaireC] Yes, that's true.  In the case of diet, it's not always evident if it's "working", I'm wondering how long changes in food take to affect Stability.
       
      [MEntity] Only if one finds that the path is harming the self does one want to consider halting the progress. 
       
      [ClaireC] Okay, that's a good guideline.  Thank you.
       
      [MEntity] In terms of diet, Claire, we suggest considering monitoring for any effects that are claimed as part of the result of the diet, giving it the amount of time you deem willing to give it. 
       
      [ClaireC] Good advice.  Thanks.
       
      [MEntity] Sometimes the changes caused by a change in diet are not always pleasant, at first, so understanding that a detoxifying process sometimes occurs can be helpful for some diets, and not scrapping the diet because one is suddenly with cramps and diarrhea. These phases tend not to last long. However, if you find a continued state of distress on the body because of a diet, you may 
       
      [MEntity] want to, at least, move into Neutrality until you understand if it is harmful or beneficial.
      [MEntity] We agree that a change in diet can be difficult to monitor for benefit because the body is so adaptable.
       
      [ClaireC] True.
      [ClaireC] Some people claim to feel great on a diet of junk food.  Then have a heart attack.  
       
      [MEntity] However, there do tend to be physical symptoms that help to give feedback about how one is eating, and this can be helpful for monitoring long-term changes in effect from diet. Depending upon the diet, we would suggest educating yourself about the claims of effects from the diet, and counterclaims.
       
      [MEntity] And decide from there.
      [MEntity] Your next step, then, might be education about the claims and also the counterclaims, or the facts vs the myths. 

      [MEntity] We must conclude here today.
       
      [ClaireC] Thank you for the great session, Michael and Troy.
      [Diane_HB] Thank you Michael!
      [Maureen] Thanks Micheal and Troy!!
      [Diane_HB] and Troy!!
      [AnnH] That was incredibly helpful. Thank you Michael and Troy
      [ClaireC] Really helpful!
       
      [MEntity] Good day to each of you. Regardless of what you decide to do in your next steps, the map we have described in the processes and progress, the states and stages, can be used as a reminder that you are not lost, not defeated, and not failing. You are moving forward as you can, and as you will. You are not done.
       
      [MEntity] Goodbye.
       
       
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