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    [Excerpt from TT: 2005-02-13]


    [Tibtyc] Greetings Michael. It seems to me that a lot of irritation, friction and strife between humans stems from differences in soul-age. Different ages have a hard time understanding, or just tolerating each other. Sometimes I think young and old should try to keep separate (as in the Indian caste system). Or at least that *I* should stay away from people whose valuations (probably soul age) are different from mine. But most of the time I mix & mingle, using lot of my energy to criticize, admonish, trying to correct what I see as “follies of youth”, in a collective, cultural sense. Maybe this is a mistake. What is a good attitude of one soul age to another, especially towards younger souls? Should one criticize?


    [M Entity] As with the progression of any maturation, the “older” will always be in the position of responsibility for understanding, teaching, redirecting, guiding, empathizing, and accepting the “younger.”

    So it is in Soul Age.

    The Older the soul, the more responsibility and capability there is within that soul to comprehend the previous soul ages. This does not mean one must condone or participate in the antics of the younger soul ages, but one can find peace, adaptability, and trust in those younger soul ages. In the same way that a parent must sometimes surrender to the power struggles of a teenager, so must the older soul surrender to the chaos of the Young and Baby Souls. Note that we use the word “surrender”, not “resign.” Surrender includes understanding and patience and trust, while resignation is the choice to abdicate all responsibility.

    We must also note that it can be quite tempting to stereotype the Soul Ages because of generalizations and media hype. It is assumed that only Baby and Young Souls, for instance, are responsible for the chaos in your world, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. The apathy of an Old Soul does far more harm to your planet and people than any bomb from a Young Soul. The need to segregate one’s consciousness from the rest of one’s species as a means to uphold a false sense of spirituality or evolution is far more regressive than the zealousness of a Baby Soul.

    We make these statements as fact, not as judgments. As with every other aspect of life, a fragment may choose to do whatever he or she feels is most appropriate in all circumstances.

    In short, a “good attitude” toward younger souls is in the ability to see the innocence of their experimentation, chaos, and cruelty. Reaching into and resonating with the innocence of another Being is one of the most powerful means to transform the ripples of effect from those Beings’ choices in your world.


    [Tibtyc] Should i take the part about “segregation” as referring to me?


    [M Entity] We do not specifically refer to you, though we are responding to the question as you stated it in terms of segregation based on a caste system.


    [flimflamdamn] So trying to connect with that innocence in another can help?


    [M Entity] Yes, Leela. That is what we said, but more specifically, we stated that it would “transform the effects on your world,” as in, “your personal experience” of the world. Changing your experience of the world is one of the most powerful means of creating your world in a “better way.”


    [Tibtyc] My understanding is that caste originally had to do with Age.


    [Annsge] (Think “Caste” had more to do with Essence Role)


    [M Entity] The caste system was originated and propagated only as a means of socio-political control, not as an extension of any mystical or spiritually-relevant systems; regardless of how that system can retrospectively be interpreted.

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      This paradigm supports the entire spectrum between earning and taking, as long as there is an aim for Collecting.
      We will define "Collecting" here as an aim geared toward personal gain, meaning, motivation, fulfillment, satisfaction, craving, longing.
      Everything that is shared in terms of an economy and resource is subject to this spectrum.
      Those who do not wish to participate in that paradigm will be pushed to the edges of it, so to speak, and will "play by their own rules," but as quietly as possible so as not to bring attention to the breaking of rules set for that paradigm.
      As Consumerism is quite in line with the Young Soul, the Young Soul does quite well within this paradigm, and enjoys the spectrum in many ways. It is exciting, competitive, and, forgiving the pun, consuming.
      Regardless of Soul Age, a paradigm will be an insidious part of any fragment's life.
      Regardless of how conscious a Personality is, and how Manifested the True Personality and Essence, there will, inherently, be some level of the self that willingly or unwittingly "plays the game."
      Essence and Personality are not victims of a paradigm, but simply agree that if being born into a paradigm, there would naturally be some sense of it.
      It is already difficult, if not impossible, to escape the imprinting from a culture and society, even if the imprinting from caretakers is lifted. Therefore, it is more often than not embraced to some extent, even if the Personality is resentful of it.
      In this case, in order to "ride the rides" of this paradigm, then at least "some of the tickets" must be bought, if you will.
      It is rare, and certainly of no significant nobility, for an Old/er Soul to opt out of a paradigm that does not cater to an Old Soul.
      In fact, it is often just the opposite: the Older Soul relishes in the opportunity to call upon the "younger" perspective for new experiences from a broader perspective.
      Old Souls do not flock to the pastures for retirement and tree-hugging, though many do, but often [more] for the satisfaction of False Personality, than anything, in those cases.
      If Old Souls wanted to avoid the struggles of a paradigm, they know full well by now that all one has to do is wait for the cycles to turn, and a more comfortable paradigm will emerge.
      Instead, Old Souls tend to flock to the most challenging of paradigms for the sake of a more complete experience. It is of no coincidence that many can say, "If I knew then what I know now." A return to High School with your adult awareness would change everything about how your choices would be made.
      Essence gets to do that.
      The Old Soul in a Consumer paradigm is like going back to High School, and making choices from a more adult perspective. And it is never quite what was anticipated.
      Many Old Souls get through the entire incarnational cycle of lives without an Old Soul paradigm in place.
      No specific paradigm is necessary for any Soul Age to evolve. Your evolution is your own, and dependent only on your choices, and what you do with them, both as Personality and Essence.
      The shift in paradigm is moving, though, and living during a shift is always enticing to every Soul Age.
      Every global shift tends to attract nearly all fragments still incarnating.
      One of the reasons a shift takes "so long" is because there are usually not enough bodies to go around for everyone to be involved at once, so it is a gradual process that each gets to experience in unique ways that either passively or actively engages with it.
      [GeraldineB] that's interesting -- similar to when ISs manifest
      [MEntity] Geraldine, the Infinite Soul tends to Manifests directly in relation to a shift in paradigm. So the shift and/or the Infinite Soul is attractive.
      [GeraldineB] Oh, that's right, JC came in during the last shift
      Not all shifts must be accompanied by the Infinite Soul and the Logos.
      Only those that may be sensed as going terribly awry.
      [GeraldineB] I will have to ask you deeper questions on that during my Project
      Though it may seem as if there is a lot of leeway, there is an awareness on the scale of the Infinite Soul that can calculate the probabilities of devastation with either little, or no, recovery for the species.
      All fragments eventually get to participate in a Manifestation of the Infinite Soul (as it is part of the Soul Ages), as there will always be at least one parallel version of existence that is headed for devastation.
      In other parallels, a Manifestation has already taken place in the wake of devastating nuclear war, which was averted "here."
      [GeraldineB] yes . . .back in the 80s
      The Manifestation would have been around the millennium mark.
      Though the war was earlier, yes.
      For now, "this" parallel (and a great many of its parallels) appear to be doing well in terms of evolving the shift in paradigm.
      In the parallels that did not do so well, there were fewer Old Souls in bodies. It should never be presumed that one's mere presence does not make a difference.
      When we say "did not do so well," we do not mean this on the scale of Essence, as all of it is meaningful and valuable, but for the Personalities, "better" can mean the difference between painful suffering and comfortable growth.
      The shift now into Citizenry is one that is a move away from Consumerism, but not excluding it. No shift in paradigm leaves one behind, but finds a way to build it into the new one.
      Citizenry will not eliminate competitiveness and Collecting, but would move it to the side as an emphasis, and bring into focus a new aim of meaningfulness and value.
      Citizenry here would be defined by us as Conscious Participation.
      As we said, Citizenry aims for Contribution as the predominant value and meaning instilled for that society, but would include a wide spectrum for how this plays out.
      This can play out in the forms ranging among philanthropy, charity, mutual benefit, sharing, homogenization, global government, "one world."
      Citizenry corresponds to a Mature Soul perspective, which can be understood as the Baby Soul perspective, Exalted.
      The pressure to conform can be very similar to the Baby Soul paradigms, but with the aim for the benefit of each other, and not a central authority.
      The precarious key here is in deciding what is beneficial for all in a way that does not harm.
      It is a Mature Soul concept couched in Young Soul terms (or vice versa, for some).
      Citizenry cannot function well with the part of the phrase "do what thou will."
      [GeraldineB] LOL -- no, we're finding that out
      Unless that "will" is conscious in its awareness of impact on others.
      That level of consciousness awareness is one that does not evolve "overnight," though the concept and paradigm of Citizenry will have been in place long before that development.
      So that phrase is a helpful bridge, and has been in place for many for some time, in some form.
      As Citizenry gathers up a momentum of conscious awareness, the shift, ironically, moves away from "so long as it harm none," to "so long as it benefit any."
      This would mean that anyone who would be impacted by the choices and actions within that paradigm were somehow AT LEAST capable of being benefited.
      It is not presumed that everyone will share the same will, of course, but that the aim would be for Contribution, at the very least.
      When the aim is only for avoiding harm, choices can become clouded by fears, frustrations, guilt, defensiveness, etc., but when there is a realization that a choice may benefit more than just the self, the aim can tend to be light, fueled by enthusiasm, and creativity.
      [GeraldineB] Would GMO (Genetically Modified Organisms) fall in the Contribution category as they purport to give larger crops due to being less susceptible to insect damage -- yet they cause corollary damage and some allergies
      Geraldine, such things would fall into the category of "benefit any," so long as there is actual benefit, and benefit that can be opted into or out of without the cost of another benefit.
      For instance, if this is the only choice for food, or if that foodstuff is not labeled for the sake of choice, then this is not considered a "benefit to any."
      [Martha] but Monsanto is trying to own the market and take away farmer's choices, does that outweigh the benefit?
      However, if without that option there is no other choice, then it would fall into a category of "benefit" for that group.
      Martha, your point supports our clarification that Citizenry, Contribution and Conscious Participation, always involves an expansion of choice, not a narrowing of it.
      This may be contextual, in that a starving group may find GMO to be its saving grace of benefit and expanded choice, while an abundant society with GMO imposed may not.
      However, the entire concept of GMO would have begun to fall by the wayside in a truly embraced paradigm of Citizenry, since this economy would lean toward a Resource-based economy, and would not require such extensive measures to create or sustain food sources.
      Issues of starvation begin to fall away, as well, since the sharing of resources for the benefit of more than Collecting becomes emphasized.
      Resources begin being looked at in terms of how they can help others, not in how they can protect, defend, and be withheld.
      Even the motivation for career and income move toward how one can Contribute, not just Consume.
      [brian] Michael, you said that the Young Soul aim might be described as COLLECTING and the Mature Soul aim might be described as CONTRIBUTION. For the sake of completeness, what themes might you use to describe the Baby Soul and Old Soul paradigms?
      Brian, that might be for Infant an aim for SECURING, and for Baby, an aim for CIVILIZING, and for Old, an aim for EXPERIENCING.
      To make it easy to understand, one could add "use money for.... _____" and fill in the aim.
      Old Souls tend to use money for Experiencing.
      Mature Souls tend to use money for Contributing.
      Young Souls tend to use money for Collecting.
      Baby Souls tend to use money for Civilizing.
      Infant Souls tend to use money for Securing.
      Of course, "money" might not be what is used, but whatever is the exchange of that economy.
      No matter what the dominant paradigm, a Soul Age will tend to "use money" for whatever the aim is for that Soul Age, even as they play by the rules of the dominant paradigm.
      For example, even in the paradigm of Consuming, the Old Soul will tend to gladly gather money, forgo money, spend money when it brings Experiences.
      We will open the floor now to more questions such as these, as we know Troy must comply to a time limit in his current environment.
      [Bobby] my question was based on right now I feel like money to me is more about security. I suppose that really depends on what is going on in one's life at the moment as well as the major paradigm they find themselves in, correct?
      Bobby, as money is currently used within a paradigm of Consuming, with an aim for Collecting, then when one is not able to consume what one is used to consuming, or expects to consume, it can cause great stress.
      When there is no paradigm in place for Citizenry with an aim for Contribution, there is little to consider as a network of support for fluctuations in what one can Contribute.
      As long as there is a paradigm of Consuming in place, there will be a paradigm of lack, and the subsequent prompts for what is necessary to remedy that.
      If that might require help, there may be shame attached to it. If that might require enduring a great shift in what was expected or familiar for Consuming, there can be a great deal of fear provoked.
      The only remedy for the Older Soul is to INCLUDE its own paradigm as valid.
      In other words, regardless of income, finances, comfort, there is EXPERIENCE here.
      This does not mean that the Old Soul would embrace starvation because it is a glorious Experience, but more that the embrace of something such as that as simply being a rich resource of Experience, solutions can tend to come much easier.
      Embracing whatever paradigm is useful within the grasp of your Soul Age is helpful. This might mean embracing the paradigm of Citizenry, and allowing yourself to ask for help, and to do what you can to help, so as to create that circuit in the life.
      It will not negate the dominant paradigm, but can, at least, expand paradigms.
      Thus, expanding solutions, feelings, perspectives, resources.
      Another way to look at the situation would be in terms of drawing from your rich resources of Experience as a means for helping bring you back into a sense of security. It is not so much that you need to see the current situation as rich with experience, but that you have a bank of experience that is already useful.
      On the other hand, Security is one of the 9 Needs, and this can tend to be a theme of exploration, regardless of what economy or paradigm is in place.
      [Maureen] I know this is far off future, but ...Will the Resource Economy start with a Mature Soul world and move into a more "progressed" form in an Old Soul world? What will be the biggest "change" to experience from Mature to Old - especially for Older souls?
      The shift of economy for most Mature to Old is toward bartering. A resource-economy would have already been in place for this, as well as a sense of support for any individual's sense of Contribution.
      Contribution then feeds into Experiences. Foods and goods are not as valuable as experiences.
      Food and goods would tend to have become so freely shared that lack is a foreign concept, except in terms of experiences, and this is what would then be bartered, specifically in terms of how one might be instrumental in helping to aim for experiences.
      [Maureen] Do you have an example for us?
      There are many examples of this via what is called the Internet.
      A great amount of resources for expanding upon one's experiences is available there.
      And often in terms of barter, which is not always specifically negotiated, but implicit.
       Simple participation in the web site generated by each of you as "TLE" is an example.
      There are few, if any, conditions on what is exchanged, with benefit freely offered and received, with Experience as a great part of the aim.
      That is a working example of something similar that might play out on a large scale.
      [EricM] Bit of an overarching question, but Is this the first time humanity has ever experienced Mature as a predominant paradigm, or has it happened in the past (or alternatively, might it return to a predominantly young paradigm in the future)? I ask, as I'm trying to clarify how these shifts have happened (i.e. are they more linear or have they had cycles/starts and stops).
      [MEntity] It is not the first time, and it will not be the last, and while there tends to be a fairly linear cycling on a global scale, they are built from sub-cycles with those that may or may not be linear or obviously connected.
      [EricM] oh, and examples are appreciate as well 🙂
      Dominance of paradigm and Soul Age is entirely dependent upon those incarnated and participating in the world.
      Every cycle of "recorded history" tends to be a set of sub-cycles that lead up to a global manifestation of the average Soul Age of the entire Design.
      Most of what is currently understood as recorded history only maps the return to an emphasis on Infant and Baby, and then a shift into Young.
      We must conclude here for today, as Troy's time has come to a close in his environment.
      Good day to each of you.
    • KurtisM
      By KurtisM
      [Extracted from Energy Report: July 2017]
      Realism is one of the 7 Primary Philosophies, or Attitudes, that describes how one interprets the experience of existence. Realism is the Attitude that focuses on understanding. Realism learns that there is always more to know, more information, more context, and that any moment of understanding is only an approximation of fuller understanding that can come with more time, experience, information, and context.
      The Positive Pole of Realism is OBJECTIVITY. Objective Realism says that you are not inherently defined by your experiences and that your reality is not defined only by you. Objectivity sees people, life, and experiences as they appear to be, but they do not presume that this appearance is all that there is. Objectivity can have experiences without being those experiences. Objectivity can sort through them as a means to understand the self, without losing the self. Objectivity emphasizes impartiality, fairness, justice, and greater understanding.
      The Negative Pole of Realism is SUBJECTIVITY. This is the assumption that reality, as it exists in the mind, is the only reality that exists, or how one sees reality is just how it is. How one feels about something is more important than the understanding of it. It is an assumption that how reality appears and how one experiences it is all there is.
      NOTE: the phrase “it is what it is” is often used to describe the Realist, but this tends to be the Realist in Subjectivity or the Negative Pole. It is a dismissal or discouragement of effort or interest to understand, see, and learn more. It is a resignation to reality as it appears to be, rather than a participation in broadening one's perspective. It is a shutdown of emotional reality rather than an understanding of its place in the range of experience of reality. It is a killer of curiosity. ...
      Many who are locked in Subjectivity will find that they “hate people,” or that “people make me sick,” etc, because they have resigned to their limited understanding and perspective, determining that how they feel about reality is all that reality is, or that how they feel about a particular subject that involves people is the entire reality that involves people. Those locked in Subjectivity may then be locked in a perpetual battle with inner and outer reality as they refuse to broaden their perspective, refuse to make room for time and context and understanding, presuming that how they feel about it is all that is necessary. These are the people who will either opt out of helping bring change to their lives or to the lives of others, or they will dig in and attempt to force their version of reality upon the lives of everyone.
      Subjectivity is an important part of Realist Attitude because one must truly understand the difference between FEELING and REALITY, FEELING and FACT, FEELING and TRUTH. Subjectivity allows one to fully indulge in the emotional realm so that one can carry that forward into the wider range of reality that will require greater intellectual understanding. Objectivity is not the absence of emotion or the indulgence of intellect, but a harmony between the two. Reality is then a dance between what reality appears to be and how one feels about that, but neither are presumed to be the same things.
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