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    • Essence Role: Priest
      Casting Position: Warrior
      Energy Ratio: UNKNOWN
      Frequency: UNKNOWN
      Cadre Number: 10
      Entity Number: 03
      Soul Age: Young
      Soul Level: 5th
      Essence Twin: UNKNOWN
      Task Companion: UNKNOWN
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      Center and Part of Center: unknown
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      Secondary Chief Feature: unknown
      Credited Source: Troy Tolley

    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (born 7 October 1952) is a Russian politician who is the current President of the Russian Federation, holding the office since 7 May 2012. He was Prime Minister from 1999 to 2000, President from 2000 to 2008, and again Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012. During his second term as Prime Minister, he was the Chairman of the United Russia Party, the ruling party.

     

    From Ask Michael 2016-12-04

    Question: Could you please provide the Role/Casting, Soul Age/Level, Cadre/Entity for Vladimir Putin, President of Russia? Are you able to tell if Putin and Donald Trump have any agreements, monads, or past life resonance between them that could potentially influence their interactions with each other and hence affect global events?

     

    MEntity: This fragment is the 5th Level Young Warrior-Cast Priest from Cadre 10, Entity 3. The fragments in question share Agreements to "explore and expand personal power," and share positions in a Pentagon Configuration with a Task of "Refining Networks of Power."

     

    MEntity: Keep in mind that the paths that Configurations take often begin from "negative" points of exploration and then move from one extreme to another before finding the resolution.

     

    MEntity: Their interactions are well into affecting global events. The effects of the combined efforts of the King and the Priest in terms of these more fearful extremes of power are tapping into many who are locked into Chief Features, particularly those of Stubbornness, Self-Destruction, Greed.

     

    MEntity: We will be exploring these effects with our students across 2017.


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    Does anyone know about Trumps? Would be interesting to know all of the overleaves of both.

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    21 minutes ago, Hjortur said:

    Does anyone know about Trumps? Would be interesting to know all of the overleaves of both.

     

    Here you go:

     

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    Ok, tks for the info on Trump!

     

    So, he is an older soul than Vladimir :-)

    I wonder how the eccentric behaviour of a 5 level soul manifests in this young priest?

     

    In so many ways, these persons (Trump and Putin) must function like a giant switchboard with couplings going out to a multitude of incarnated souls. How many agreements have there been made between these essences and ourselves? So much opportunity for evolution on a personal and essence level. 

     

    In the far future, leaders of Earth-clans from around the globe are gathered around the traditional fire in the middle of the big stone ring.
    They look with love and awe at the man or messianic figure, who has brought an end to the last remaining conflicts of earth. 

    Later that evening the 7 level old king is lovingly released from his entanglement with the infinite soul and ends his last incarnation on earth.

     

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    Timothy J Sullivan

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    MEntity: This fragment (Putin) is 5th Level Young Warrior-Cast Priest from Cadre 10, Entity 3. The fragments in question (PUTIN & TRUMP) share Agreements to "explore and expand personal power," and share positions in a Pentagon Configuration with a Task of "Refining Networks of Power."

     

    MEntity: Keep in mind that the paths that Configurations take often begin from "negative" points of exploration and then move from one extreme to another before finding the resolution.

     

    MEntity: Their interactions are well into affecting global events. The effects of the combined efforts of the King and the Priest in terms of these more fearful extremes of power are tapping into many who are locked into Chief Features, particularly those of Stubbornness, Self-Destruction, Greed.

     

    MEntity: We will be exploring these effects with our students across 2017.

     

    Oh I can't wait! This will be a study in  "Transformative Dialectics" for sure. If we survive..

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    Timothy J Sullivan

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    Questions Re: "The Pentagon Configuration" 

    1. An inherently unstable (or dynamic) configuration...who are the other fragments in this group of 5?

    2. And what positions do they occupy in the configuration: LOVE (inspiration/emotional); POWER (expression/moving); SUPPORT (action/instinctive); KNOWLEDGE (assimilation/intellectual); ECCENTRIC ( The Concept/Idea/or Meme??) 

     

    "A Pentangle (Pentagon) works by taking the seed of an idea and blowing it up to a grander scale...frequently the most effective vehicle to get a concept out to the masses."  - Jose Stephens, TAO to EARTH. 

     

    Five in the Tarot is the Hierophant. 

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    From "Michael Speaks-- Configurations"

    Feb 21, 2012

    http://our.truthloveenergy.com/topic/455-michael-speaks-configurations

     

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    PENTAGON

    When a FIFTH Position is added to a Quadrate, it then becomes a Pentangle, or Pentagon. The new Position is called a REVOLUTIONARY. In groups of 5, there will always be one person who challenges the very stability of the focus. In Working Configurations, a Pentagon is either a formidable force, or a direct disaster. In Social situations of 5, there will always be the fifth person, the Revolutionary, who will complain, fall asleep, try to redirect the group, or finally they will simply leave the group. In a successful Working Configuration of 5, the 5th Position is usually filled with a CONCEPT instead of a Person. The Beatles are an example of both a Concept as Revolution, and a Person. The Configuration when it held a 5th person collapsed in stability, but when the Position turned to a Concept, the group excelled in tremendously successful ways.

     

    While a Quadrate has a goal of manifesting or accomplishing something, a Pentagon, if seriously undertaken, is out for transforming things on great levels.

     

    Also interesting:

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    Usually, because of the inherent instability of a Pentagon, at some point, it will either shift to a Quadrate, or bring in an Integrator.

     

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    DanielaS

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    From POF 7/16/2017

    Trump/Putin Pentagon Configuration

     

    [Essential background reading is the "Michael Speaks--Configurations" session. I posted the link above.]

     

    DanielaS: Hi Michael. Recently Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump met each other publicly at the G20 leaders summit in Germany. The bond between them was palpable. Previously you said the following about Putin and Trump:

     

    MEntity: The fragments in question share Agreements to "explore and expand personal power," and share positions in a Pentagon Configuration with a Task of "Refining Networks of Power."

     

    DanielaS: To clarify, when you said they "share" positions did you mean they occupy the same positions and are sharing them, or that they occupy 2 separate positions in a shared Configuration? Which positions do Putin and Trump occupy (1 Love, 2 Knowledge, 3 Power, 4 Support, 5 Revolutionary/Eccentric)? Who or what occupies the other positions?

     

    MEntity: Putin is in Position 3 and Trump is in Position 5, with Bannon in Position 1, Trump Jr in Position 4, and the Knowledge Position filled by lesser-known or unknown Sage close to Putin.

     

    Daniela: How stable (or dynamic) is the Trump/Putin Pentagon Configuration? Does it look like it would more likely shift to a Quadrate or bring in a sixth position?

     

    MEntity: It is highly unstable and volatile. When a Pentagon is stable, the 5th Position becomes revolutionary. When the Pentagon is unstable, the 5th Position is either already the Eccentric and forcing the instability, or becomes the Eccentric as a result of instability. For a Pentagon to work, all focus is on a 5th Position that must sustain stabilization.

     

    Daniela: Oh, with Trump as Position 5? He doesn't seem stable at all!

     

    MEntity: We do not see a stabilizing factor or change in the Configuration, though members may abandon the Configuration for other, more stable Configurations as a means of fulfilling variations on the Tasks.

     

    Daniela: In a session dedicated to the topic of Configurations, you said, "a Pentagon, if seriously undertaken, is out for transforming things on great levels." What is this Pentagon looking to transform?

     

    MEntity: The Task is Global Unification.

     

    Daniela: Under what form of government?

     

    MEntity: However, keep in mind that Configurations go through growing pains and negative poles as with every other process. Unyielding Power is a Young Soul's idea about what would be useful as the cohesive power that unifies a planet.

     

    MEntity: A mix of Totalitarian and Fascism.

     

    Daniela: Ugh.

     

    Daniela: In a session dedicated to the topic of Configurations, you said, "a Pentagon is either a formidable force, or a direct disaster." Is this Configuration looking like a formidable force or a direct disaster?

     

    MEntity: At this point it is headed toward disaster. How many are affected by this disaster is yet to be seen.

     

    Daniela: Say something positive to end the session?

     

    MEntity: A Pentagon that seeks such a grand scale task will never succeed to any extent or length of time until it "gets it right" in terms of providing benefit to all who would be involved. Until then, it will be disaster after disaster and lessons learned.

     

    MEntity: On a "positive note," every single fragment on the planet has a say in the direction of the planet. The more one participates in the momentum of collective consciousness toward greater peace, fulfillment, resources, healing, etc, the more likely that the concept of oppression in any form begins to fade.

     

    MEntity: Continue your capacity for action and choice that aligns with greater ideals because this matters. That is, if you choose to do so.

     

    MEntity: We will conclude here for today. Good day to each of you. Goodbye, for now.

     

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    So, to recap the configuration positions with descriptions from the Michael Speaks session (link above).

     

    Position 1--Love-- Steve Bannon

    "This Position is the one who brings the initiation of ideas to the group. They are usually very inspiring and naturally seem to be able to get everyone “psyched up” about something to do. They do not, however, have the ability to actually make the ideas happen. In fact, it is not their “job” at all.

     

    Position 2-- Knowledge-- lesser-known or unknown Sage close to Putin

    "is the person who refines the ideas generated by LOVE."

     

    Position 3-- Power-- Putin

    "is the one who is in the position to actually make the ideas of Love, refined by Knowledge, happen."

     

    Position 4--Support-- Donald Jr.

    "is the mediator and cohesiveness that keeps the group stable."

     

    Position 5-- Revolutionary/Eccentric-- Trump

    "The new Position is called a REVOLUTIONARY. In groups of 5, there will always be one person who challenges the very stability of the focus."

     

     

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    Thanks for asking this question, @DanielaS. It's been on my mind too. And thanks for asking for a positive note to end on.

     

    9 minutes ago, DanielaS said:

    MEntity: A Pentagon that seeks such a grand scale task will never succeed to any extent or length of time until it "gets it right" in terms of providing benefit to all who would be involved. Until then, it will be disaster after disaster and lessons learned.

     

    12 minutes ago, DanielaS said:

    MEntity: On a "positive note," every single fragment on the planet has a say in the direction of the planet. The more one participates in the momentum of collective consciousness toward greater peace, fulfillment, resources, healing, etc, the more likely that the concept of oppression in any form begins to fade.

     

     

    12 minutes ago, DanielaS said:

    MEntity: Continue your capacity for action and choice that aligns with greater ideals because this matters. That is, if you choose to do so.

     

     

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    This was a great line of questioning Daniela, it clarifies so much about the dynamics at play here! Thank you for asking and posting, but especially for requesting a positive end note - Michael's response really helps put things in perspective! 

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    PPLD

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    This is most intriguing and 1/3/5 makes so much sense.

    Was surprised to see Donald Jr there! What is it with this family involvement on all bloody levels and dimensions! :D

     

    Thank you for asking this excellent question and bringing more clarity to the crazy around us @DanielaS!

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    It also makes more sense of why he retains power in the face of so much shit: He has his Essence Twin, Ivanka, his Task Companion, Melanoma (credit @Kerrin), and two of his Pentagon--Bannon and Jr, in his immediate environment. His bromance with Putin is totally explained by this. Just remember, Michael said 58% chance of impeachment within 18 months. I think it's coming sooner, but with this kind of support, the resistance is really intense. 

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    Heh, world domination.  Trump couldn't dominate an ant farm.  He's certainly not succeeded in establishing much dominance over the country, or even his own party.  This Configuration was doomed from the moment he took up Position 5.

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    28 minutes ago, Sam K said:

    Heh, world domination.  Trump couldn't dominate an ant farm.  He's certainly not succeeded in establishing much dominance over the country, or even his own party.  This Configuration was doomed from the moment he took up Position 5.

     We can only hope.

     

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    And of course, Robert Mueller, even though not part of this group is/has to be playing a most interesting part of "something"  :)

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    14 hours ago, DanielaS said:

    and the Knowledge Position filled by lesser-known or unknown Sage close to Putin.

     

    I wonder if this is Vladislav Surkov, although he's not that unknown.

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    32 minutes ago, Evelin said:

     

    I wonder if this is Vladislav Surkov, although he's not that unknown.

     

    Surkov is definitely Sagely... Hm...

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    Just now, PPLD said:

     

    Surkov is definitely Sagely... Hm...

    Yeah, and with that theatre background. Also, he's been Putin's main back-stage ideologist for a long time, from what I've read.

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    4 hours ago, Evelin said:

    Yeah, and with that theatre background. Also, he's been Putin's main back-stage ideologist for a long time, from what I've read.

     

    Oh god yes. With the Наши organisation and this sovereign democracy shit. Vlad loves Slava I'd say, and he sure is influential. 

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    5 hours ago, Evelin said:

     

    I wonder if this is Vladislav Surkov, although he's not that unknown.

     

    I had not heard of this person, @Evelin. Thanks for brining him up! From what I read about him quickly on the internet, he fits the bill.  He is certainly experienced in manipulating public opinion with propaganda and skewing elections in other countries, i.e. the Ukraine.  As for the Sage reference, look at his quote from Wikipedia: "BBC documentary filmmaker Adam Curtis credits Surkov's blend of theater and politics with keeping Putin, and Putin's chosen successors, in power since 2000."

     

    When I first saw Michael's answer about the Configuration positions I was a little relieved because I was expecting more foreign leaders to be involved. I would have found this more menacing, more of a global effort.  But nope, this is just a stupid home-grown conspiracy run by idiots. But then I got scared again because these idiots have already taken this pretty far and the Republican indifference to blatant attempts to collude with the Russian government is terrifying. I mean, Don Jr put it out there on Twitter himself! How much more do they need! It's like being in one of those nightmares where your are literally paralyzed from stopping the bad stuff from happening.

     

    That's why I asked for a positive message at the end of the session. I've been trying to participate "in the momentum of the collective consciousness toward greater peace" since 3am on Election Night. And I know you all have, too.

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    DanielaS

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    I'm going to bump this because this has become so relevant this week!

     

    Funny, it was on July 16, 2017-- exactly a year ago to the day of the Helsinki summit-- that I asked the question in a POF about the Trump/Putin Pentagon Configuration!  In last Sunday's POF I was going to ask for a Configuration status update, but decided to ask a personal question instead, and now I am kinda kicking myself and wished I asked for the update. 

     

    On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 5:29 PM, DanielaS said:

    Daniela: How stable (or dynamic) is the Trump/Putin Pentagon Configuration? Does it look like it would more likely shift to a Quadrate or bring in a sixth position?

     

    MEntity: It is highly unstable and volatile. When a Pentagon is stable, the 5th Position becomes revolutionary. When the Pentagon is unstable, the 5th Position is either already the Eccentric and forcing the instability, or becomes the Eccentric as a result of instability. For a Pentagon to work, all focus is on a 5th Position that must sustain stabilization.

     

    Daniela: Oh, with Trump as Position 5? He doesn't seem stable at all!

     

    MEntity: We do not see a stabilizing factor or change in the Configuration, though members may abandon the Configuration for other, more stable Configurations as a means of fulfilling variations on the Tasks.

     

    I wonder if Bannon and Don Jr are still in the 1 and 4 positions? It makes sense to me that Bannon and Don Jr were there to get the Configuration moving and now that it's matured they have been swapped out for others.

     

    I have to say, it frightens me that it feels like this Configuration has become more stable. Trump and Putin have made it this far and it was SO OBVIOUS on Monday that their plans are taking shape to become reality. Lordy, I hope there are tapes!

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    ************** Update from State of the Planet channeling in January 2019 ************

     

    Daniela: Hi Michael. In July 2017 I asked you about the Putin/Trump Pentagon Configuration. You said the Configuration's Task is Global Unification and you identified the positions as:

    Position 1--Love-- Steve Bannon

    Position 2-- Knowledge-- lesser-known or unknown Sage close to Putin

    Position 3-- Power-- Putin

    Position 4--Support-- Donald Jr.

    Position 5-- Revolutionary/Eccentric-- Trump

    Can you speak to how the Configuration has fared over the last 18 months? For example, has it stabilized or is it still highly volatile? Have any of the positions been vacated and filled by others?

     

    MEntity: The Configuration is still intact but more volatile. Positions remained filled by the same individuals. Death of one member involved here will be the end of this Configuration for the lifetime.

     

    ******************************************************************************************

     

    And it was @Evelin who suggested that Position 2 was filled by Vladislav Surkov. I saw this a few days ago that is making the rounds on social media.

     

     

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