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OMW - Aug 17, 2013 - The Next Step Channel: Troy Tolley [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here, now. We can begin our discussion on the chosen subject. [MEntity] Based on the subject of interest today, we will share with you a way to understand the process and progress for any endeavor for fulfillment of a plan, ideal, vision, transformation, goal, relationship, career, etc. There is little variation among the processes and progresses of any aim. [MEntity] As with all processes and progression, there are 7 Steps or Stages. Many may already be familiar with these in a basic way, but we will expand upon these today in a way that may help you more directly in your own process and progress. THE SEVEN STAGES [MEntity] The 7 Stages are fairly simple: Initiation, Discernment, Stability, Disruption, Healing, Gratitude, and Neutrality. [MEntity] Anything or anyone to which you commit will take these 7 Stages for your process and progression into that commitment. There are rarely any exceptions to this. [MEntity] Depending upon the length of time in the commitment, these 7 Stages may be cycled through many times, indefinitely, in various degrees of intensity, demand, and obviousness. [MEntity] This is only in terms of COMMITMENT, not the fulfillment of the commitment. [MEntity] In other words, if you are trying to break a habit, that process is a commitment, but once that habit is broken, the commitment is fulfilled, and the stages end. [MEntity] If you are committing yourself to a long-term relationship, once the relationship is embraced, the stages of commitment are completed. [MEntity] You are "done" with the challenges of that commitment, the efforts through the stages, and there is usually no "going back" then. [MEntity] Are all of you familiar with these stages? [Diane_HB] Sounds familiar [Janet] I think so, but not in this context of fulfilling a goal [Nadine_AP] i think so [GeraldineB] I don't know how Stability and Disruption play out [Bobby] Stability would come before Disruption though? [GeraldineB] apparently [MEntity] We will expand on each, briefly: [MEntity] INITIATION - the start of the effort of commitment. [MEntity] We will use the example of the commitment to "lose weight." [MEntity] The idea then is to lose weight. It is the start of the general direction. [MEntity] DISCERNMENT - the clarification vital to the fulfillment of the commitment. [MEntity] The general idea is focused down to how one will lose the weight. A plan is made. [MEntity] STABILITY - the implementation of the clarified efforts necessary for the fulfillment of the commitment. [MEntity] The individual is now working out, dieting, and sticking to the goal. [MEntity] DISRUPTION - stability is shaken up by an outside force or internal obstacle [MEntity] HEALING - the disruption is addressed, confronted, dealt with in a productive and healthy way. [MEntity] The failing and setbacks over the holidays are put into perspective and taken for what they were (a matter of simple, joyful indulgence), and there is a return to the momentum of commitment. [MEntity] GRATITUDE - the appreciation of the necessity for all that has come to be a part of the process and progress of one's fulfillment of the commitment. [MEntity] This is when it is noticed that the efforts are "paying off," that the setbacks, obstacles, and challenges were only a PART of the process, not the derailing of the progress. [MEntity] The experience of the holiday distraction is learned from, and ideas more aligned with the commitment are decided upon for the next holidays, knowing that even a failing to do so will not be "the end" of the commitment. [MEntity] NEUTRALITY - the final fulfillment of the commitment, or a necessary break from the efforts of the commitment. [MEntity] That is a brief synopsis of the Stages of Commitment that are relevant to your understanding where you are in your own processes and progress of fulfilling a commitment. [MEntity] Keep in mind that, in terms of the subject of this workshop, your "next step" may be a part of one of these stages, and not necessarily parallel to the next stage. So, "next step" here does not mean "next stage." [MEntity] Your next step will be a customized and unique ingredient of the process and progress through these 7 Stages, and one fragment's next step is not the same as another's, even as all fragments do still go through all of the same Stages. [MEntity] Do you understand? [GeraldineB] no [MEntity] Geraldine, for example: [MEntity] The person making the commitment to "lose weight" may be in Stage 3, Stability, of her process through to losing weight. The Stage of Stability can last a great length of time. She or he may be on a roll with keeping up with exercise and thoughtful diet. As a PART of sustaining that Stability, it is not always a matter of doing the same things over and over. He or she may find that sticking to the diet and exercise is going well, but is now concerned about lack of variety, repetitive routines, and realizes he or she will probably lose momentum if stuck in such routines. [MEntity] This is not the same thing as Disruption, the next STAGE, as Disruption truly interferes with the momentum. Instead, this is a matter of this fragment determining the "next step" in terms of sustaining Stability. [GeraldineB] thank you, I get it [Maureen] It's like a "side-step" [MEntity] So she decides to move off of the treadmill and run the park's paths. She decides to learn more about what options there are for food choices. [MEntity] Her "next step," then, was to implement Variety. [MEntity] This will not stop the Disruption from coming, but that understanding of the necessity for Variety will be a final part of the set of ingredients when commitment is fulfilled and concluded. [MEntity] QUESTION FOR STUDENTS: can you assess where you think you may be in your process of commitment regarding your focus? [GeraldineB] I'm in Discernment [ClaireC] Initiation, for me. [Janet] I have a longer term goal. I think I'm in the Discernment stage and may be there for awhile. [Nadine_AP] I guess I'm more or less lost right now in my process - probably discernment. [Maureen] I'm "stuck" in Discernment -- I think. [Bobby] Even though mine seems like a fairly new endeavor, I feel like I've experienced all of these to some degree anyway [MEntity] If there are no more responses, we will continue. [Diane_HB] Disruption, I think [Diane_HB] Or possibly Discernment still [AnnH] I am stuck in discernment. [Maureen] popular stage... [Nadine_AP] lol [GeraldineB] we are good at plan-making, but not so good at execution [AnnH] I can find all kinds of ways I can't implement [Maureen] I can't even get my head around the plan... LOL [Nadine_AP] Maureen,same with me [MEntity] What we will share now is the greater dimensions of each of these Stages so that you can understand the underpinnings of each Stage. Comprehending the underpinnings of each Stage can help you to better clarify where you are in the process, and are keys to helping you move through the process with greater ease, helping you to both make breakthroughs and to clarify your next step. [MEntity] We might term these greater dimensions and underpinnings as STATES. [MEntity] So, Initiation is a STATE OF POTENTIAL. [MEntity] When you are in the Initiating Stage, you are in a State of Potential. Nothing is defined, refined, clarified. You are exploring your options and will tend to have your ideals, projections, and expectations intact. [MEntity] Think of this in the same way one might enter a relationship. This is the state similar to "falling in love." This is not to say that it will feel like "falling in love," but that falling in love tends to bring with it a great open-ended world of potential. [MEntity] Only the general intent is here. [MEntity] Many do not like to leave this State. [MEntity] Many will hold their intentions in this State for the entire lifetime. [Nadine_AP] I think I'm trying to pass from Initiation to Discernment then [AnnH] Yep [Maureen] I feel too shitty to be in Initiation ...it sure doesn't feel like "love". [Nadine_AP] oh, maureen, it doesn't in my case either! It's a little bit distressing, because I can see the potentials but can't figure out how to get there [Maureen] Unless it's the all-consuming, stalking kind... [GeraldineB] Maybe, you have to break your goal down into smaller chunks that ARE do-able [Maureen] That's the advice I give to Clients! [GeraldineB] LOL [Nadine_AP] I'm trying [GeraldineB] Healer, heal thyself [Maureen] LOL [MEntity] "Falling in love" is very different from Love. Falling in love may be experienced as a pleasant state, but it is full of projections, expectations, and ideals that make it relevant for comparison to the STATE OF POTENTIAL. [MEntity] If you prefer a different comparison, it can also be like the "world after graduation," or "the day with no plan," or for some of you, like entering a "haunted fun house in the dark." [Maureen] LOL [Diane_HB] lol [MEntity] We chose the comparison to "falling in love," but the STATE OF POTENTIAL also can be like "falling into fear." [Nadine_AP] lol...falling in love always felt like falling into fear for me... [MEntity] And then there is that. [MEntity] The STATE OF POTENTIAL is wrought with options and mixes and directions, all variations of Love and Fear. [Maureen] Michael -- do the Attitudes affect how one can get through the Stages? I can see how the Attitudes may play out. I'm a Realist -- I see so many factors that it’s daunting. [AnnH] Me, too, Maureen. [ClaireC] It's really easy for a Spiritualist to stay in Potential forever. [MEntity] Understanding the State of Potential can help one to do two things: reclaim yourself as the source of the creation of your potential, and then to consciously choose more toward Love. [MEntity] This removes the "falling" part, and helps to put you back into the role of Creator. [Nadine_AP] How could I consciously choose more toward Love? [MEntity] Nadine, we will address questions shortly so that we can address each of you more personally. We suggest noting your questions as we go along, so we can return to them with you. [Nadine_AP] okay [MEntity] So, for some of you in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, in the Initiation Stage, your next step is some variation on CHOICE. [MEntity] The most effective way one can move into a next step when in the Initiation Stage, and in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, is to SIMPLIFY. [MEntity] Bring everything down to the simplest of facts, focus, and intention. [MEntity] When in the STATE OF POTENTIAL, it is helpful to go silent, to be still, to stop all distractions, and sit down with yourself and your intention. [MEntity] Physically write down your intention and all of the scenarios or potential, and you will see that it may not be as overwhelming or daunting or consuming as you thought or felt. [MEntity] What tends to happen is that one is in a STATE OF POTENTIAL, in The Stage of Initiation, and then thinks that the Discernment Stage is what comes next. [MEntity] This is the equivalent of stating that you have realized you can choose whatever you want, but have no clue from what options are you choosing. [MEntity] This is quite similar to how the Internal Monads work, in that if one exits the previous state/stage in a negative pole, then the next will remain there, as well. [MEntity] So if one does not consciously assess what options are available, what directions are preferred, what ideal is of interest, what results are being sought, etc., then the Discernment Stage tends to only emphasize everything that is lacking in potential. [MEntity] The daunting aspects are highlighted. The intensity is heightened. The doubts are amplified. [MEntity] Imagine that you have decided you want to create a beautiful dress, but completely bypass the process of exploring and narrowing down the possible fabrics from which to choose. You now move into the next stage and it becomes emphasized what you have not done and cannot do. [MEntity] However, if you have your 10 fabrics out in front of you and then move into the next Stage, you can now Discern, choose the ingredients that will become the dress. [MEntity] That simplification effort in the first stage as a way to sort out the state of potential drastically changes the process of discernment that comes next. [MEntity] This is true of relationships, projects, transforming habits, etc. [MEntity] It can take many years for one to realize that there are vital, but few, criteria for what one truly expects from an intimate relationship. For many years the State of Potential is riddled with the chaos of fantasies, projections, wounding, all of which are then emphasized upon entering the Discernment Stage because the commitment will not work or be fulfilled without those elements addressed. [MEntity] When one has consciously owned the role of source and creator of his or her potential, and then sorts out what is of interest from all of that potential, and uses choice as a way to navigate away from fear and toward love, the Discernment Stage then becomes a matter of refinement, not discouragement. [MEntity] The Discernment Stage is a process of emphasizing What Will Work, and What Will Not Work in regard to the commitment. [MEntity] If the work of sorting has been done, then the emphasis will tend toward What Will Work, though both what will work and what will not are always explored to some degree. [MEntity] And just like the Internal Monads, if you find that you are in a Stage of Discernment overwhelmed with discouragement, you can "go back" to your POTENTIAL and SIMPLIFY as a way to help move you back into refinement and encouragement. [Nadine_AP]: How could I consciously choose more toward Love? [MEntity] Sometimes the experience of choosing more toward Love is so unfamiliar (at least in terms of consciously doing so) that it can be much easier to simply NOT CHOOSE Fear. [MEntity] By "not choose fear," we mean that you actively utilize fear as a source of insight and information, but not as a source of direction or conclusion. [Nadine_AP] yes, that makes sense! [MEntity] If you are worried about the pressures of finance while seeking directions of career, then you have the capacity to resolve the conflict between doing what you CAN do for the sake of income, even as you aim for a more long-term move toward what you love. [Nadine_AP] Wow, that helps a lot actually! [ClaireC] "Love is letting go of fear" (Attitudinal Healing) [MEntity] In doing something such as this, there is the choice toward love because you are taking care of yourself AS you create, rather than presuming that your taking care of yourself is a defeating move away from other options. [Nadine_AP] I understand. Thank you! [MEntity] We think this may be helpful to consider as a specific response for you, Nadine. We will continue on now for greater context for when you explore this further. [MEntity] Before we continue: how many of you feel you must return to the STATE OF POTENTIAL to SIMPLIFY and clarify? [AnnH] To an extent, yes. [Nadine_AP] I do. [GeraldineB] I don't -- I've got my goal as cut and dried as possible [Diane_HB] Not for the issue I have in mind. [Maureen] I need to return someplace -- because it's not working now... [Janet] No. I have written down my goal and I think I'm good. [ClaireC] I think I'm actually in Discernment now. [MEntity] Geraldine, the goal can be crystal clear, but this is only helpful if the projections, expectations, and fears have been addressed so that the Stage of Discernment is then encouraging, not discouraging. [GeraldineB] Let me clarify -- My Goal is to Stop Smoking. As part of my Discernment, I have a new month's prescription to take of Chantix, an aid to stopping smoking. Plus, this time, I've set a date: August 31, 2013. One of the reasons I'm going to push through this bad habit this time is due to health concerns; so, for me the "choosing with love," would be for myself. Should I add in a request for Essence and Guides to help? as in sending me positive thoughts when I'm wavering? [MEntity] We would agree with your assessment, but we added our comment for those who may think that the clarity of Goal is enough. The goal will draw one forward, but not necessarily toward a fulfilling conclusion, if the POTENTIAL has not been clarified for Discernment. [MEntity] We have gone into detail about this initial stage because this is where many may have to return as a means to move forward toward fulfillment of a goal, but we will quickly describe the remaining States as associated with the Stages. [MEntity] The Stage of Discernment has as its foundation a State of RECIPROCITY. [MEntity] While in the Stage of Discernment, the emphasis can splay widely between discouragement and encouragement, emphasizing what will not work, and what will work, often leaning toward one direction or the other, depending on the work in The Stage of Initiation. [MEntity] A key to the underpinning of this Stage is Reciprocity, or the circuit created through giving and receiving. [MEntity] What many tend to do in this Stage of Discernment is to shut down, recoil, hide, enter into waves of shame, embarrassment, or even instill a kind of taboo against the sharing of where one is in the struggle toward Stability. [MEntity] This is a Stage where many give up. [GeraldineB] oh, I know that one [Diane_HB] me too [Maureen] I;m too embarrassed to say "me too" -- LOL [Diane_HB] lol [GeraldineB] LOL [ClaireC] lol [AnnH] yep [MEntity] However, the STATE OF RECIPROCITY is enhanced through the practice of giving and receiving, helping others to do what you wish to do, joining with others in similar directions, asking for help in your progress, allowing the help, etc. [MEntity] In an intimate relationship, it is about addressing what has come as differences between you that describe what is working and what is not working. [MEntity] So for some of you in the STATE OF RECIPROCITY in the Discernment Stage, your next step is some variation on COMMUNICATION. [MEntity] The most effective way one can move into the next step when in the Discernment Stage, and in a STATE OF RECIPROCITY, is through SOPHISTICATION, the refinement of choice. This means you no longer simply react, do as you always do, or unconsciously push forward. It means you take a moment to think, to feel, to make a choice from consciousness, not defense or habit. [MEntity] The STATE OF RECIPROCITY and the Stage of Discernment is about learning, putting into effect, and implementing, all of which require communication and growing sophistication. [MEntity] Remember that the Stage may be completed, but the State carries forward, so RECIPROCITY will continue to be a part of the commitment, meaning that communication will end up being a vital ingredient in the fulfilled commitment. [MEntity] Giving and Receiving. [MEntity] More quickly then, the remaining Stages: [MEntity] The Stage of Stability is supported by the STATE OF KARMA, or CAUSALITY. [Janet] I actually think I'm in Stability rather than Discernment now. [MEntity] This is where one truly begins to see the results of actions and efforts, and those actions and efforts are tweaked, modified, corrected, observed, etc. [MEntity] Before this, most of the commitment was in a more idealistic place, while Stability brings with it the momentum and realization. [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related, then, to EFFORT. [MEntity] And the effectiveness of that effort is supported by DEVOTION, which is the recognition that one's efforts are toward something of great value and worth. [MEntity] The Stage of Disruption has as its foundation a STATE OF SURRENDER. [MEntity] This is, basically, the embrace of the fact that "shit is going to happen." [MEntity] Sometimes there are forces greater than you that you cannot control, or that you allow to take control, in a way that interferes with your intentions. It happens. [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to HONESTY, and that honesty is supported by AFFECTION, or the capacity to empathize, be kind, gentle, patient, etc. [MEntity] The Stage of Healing has its foundation a STATE OF PRESENCE. [MEntity] This is where you own your mistakes, own your process, your responsibility, your power, your intention, your choice, etc. Blame and excuse are useless here, and you recover from what knocked you for a loop. [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to FORGIVENESS, and that forgiveness is supported by EVOLUTION, or the meaning that you attribute to your experiences. [MEntity] The State of Gratitude has as its foundation a STATE OF NON-ATTACHMENT. [MEntity] This is an ironic and paradoxical State where you begin to detach from that which has been a commitment, and experience it as a PART of you, not YOU. It is another thing, another person, another step, but they are a part of you, not YOU. [MEntity] Next steps here tend to be related to APPRECIATION, and supported by WHOLENESS, or the awareness of being greater than the sum of parts. [MEntity] The Stage of Neutrality is supported by the STATE OF MOTIVATION. [MEntity] This is where one re-examines motives and intentions from a broader perspective. [MEntity] When this comes between other Stages, next steps tend to be related to REGROUPING, digesting the experiences, and this is supported by STRUCTURE. [MEntity] When this comes as final stage/state, it is a an assessment for whether to cycle back through the Stages, or to build upon those original motivations, creating new structures from that. [MEntity] Knowing these descriptions can help you to understand where you are in the stages, what states have been carried forward, and what keys are necessary for next steps and the support for those next steps. [MEntity] Did your sense of where you are in your progress change by seeing the details for each stage/state? [Janet] Yes, absolutely. [ClaireC] Absolutely. [AnnH] not exactly. but i often get caught up in discernment, anticipate disruption and give up [GeraldineB] it enlarged [MEntity] Do you feel you can orient yourself better toward an encouraging process? [GeraldineB] yes, I do [AnnH] yes. [ClaireC] Yes, and to recognize progress. [GeraldineB] I can at least let go of past "failures" -- treat this as a brand new experience [AnnH] yes [AnnH] good point, g [ClaireC] Geraldine, think of it as a U-turn, not a failure. [MEntity] We will open the floor to your questions now, but we encourage each of you to assess your own progress and process. [GeraldineB] I did have an earlier question [GeraldineB] Question: Is there an advantage for setting a NEW habit versus breaking an OLD habit? [MEntity] Our response to this is Yes. Breaking a habit can always be included in the process toward creating something more beneficial, but to aim only toward breaking the habit can similar to stating that you wish to travel, but never getting off of the train. [MEntity] It is nice to have a destination in mind. [AnnH] I find I easily get disracted, hopeless and overwhelmed. What do I need to assess and at what stage? [MEntity] These are symptoms usually associated with not leaving the STATE OF POTENTIAL, and remaining in the first stage, or of leaving that first stage in a "negative" way to carry forward into further stages. This means that the solution is simplicity and choice. [MEntity] We do not seek to minimize the overwhelm or hopelessness or distraction by stating that the solution is so "simple," but we state this as a matter of those more challenging qualities being a part of the spectrum of possibilities from THE POTENTIAL, and they do not have be given such emphasis by choice. [MEntity] Note that these exist, that they are with you, but you do not have to choose them (as in, presume they are more important to honor than enthusiasm, willingness, importance, etc.). [MEntity] You may not feel you can choose against those emotions and surges in the body, but you can, and it is a matter of practice. It is your Right. [MEntity] For help in your next steps, it may be of benefit to consider the difference between honoring your feelings and feeding them. [AnnH] aha--lol, yes. [MEntity] Choose not to feed them. Let them remain, do not reject them, but do not feed them. As you make different choices, your feelings will eventually feed on what you choose, and this begins the transformation. [MEntity] So, your next step is to learn how to choose your food, and to choose who/what to feed in you. [MEntity] This is simplistic, but fair. [Maureen] I can't even formulate a question because I feel too discouraged at this point. I'm normally optimistic about most everything -- so this state is very uncomfortable for me. [Maureen] I guess that's more of a statement than a question. [MEntity] Then your next step would appear to be into the Stage of Neutrality. You must step back. [MEntity] Not only have you lost your Motivation, but you may have forgotten the value of the pursuit altogether. [MEntity] In this case, you would want to keep in mind that Neutrality is not giving up. It is not stopping. It is not failing. It is important. [MEntity] Your next steps then are to stop trying, but with the intent to regroup, not give up. [Maureen] That sounds good Michael -- I'm tired of trying. [MEntity] Yes, and that is okay. Again, it is your Right. It is not defeat; it is a Right. Stop. Come back to it. It will be there. [Maureen] Thanks [MEntity] In some cases, this Neutrality must be modified from complete halt to, at least, giving some amount of attention and effort to the aim, so that will be up to you to consider the ratio for what and how the direction is accommodated without so much consuming of the self. [MEntity] Our brief responses in this format are not entirely helpful or effective, so we encourage each of you to communicate further in private with us on your progress, if you choose to do so. [Diane_HB] I think I'm in Discernment with my goal of improving eyesight. I'm still having a difficult time finding a process that works for me...after 10 years of trying on and off. I think I'm not seeing enough of a benefit to work harder at it -- the practices (particularly the one about keeping my glasses off) conflict with my lifestyle and personality. But I don't like it when my eyesight starts to get worse, so I keep trying. Any comments would be appreciated. [MEntity] You are in the Stability Stage. Your commitment now is a matter of CAUSALITY, experimentation, tweaking the process of effort. In this Stage, you would want to customize what is being learned to accommodate how it best works for you. During this Stage, you may also find that your eye sight is not such a bad thing after all, and that you discover that your embrace of this as part of you is far more accurate to the healing you were seeking. [Diane_HB] Yeah, sometimes I wonder if I really need better eyesight. I just don't want it to get worse. [Diane_HB] Maybe that's what I can commit to -- maintenance. [MEntity] So your next step may be to continue your practice, your Devotion, but without the looming ultimate perfection or failure. [MEntity] Maintenance is a healthy term for how to move forward. [MEntity] We will conclude with a question from Claire. [ClaireC] Does one have to stick with a new programme until Stability is reached or not reached before abandoning it and going back to Discernment? e.g. a new diet? [MEntity] We would not say that one "has to," but that it is a valuable part of the process. If you come to Stability, you can always tweak, replace, or complement your efforts. [MEntity] For example, if one were to start exercising, the strengthening of the muscles and the stretching of the tendons can bring aching for quite some time, leading one to consider scrapping the intentions. But once stability is reached, it is realized that the aching was symptoms of benefit, and that the exercises can be altered, replaced, mixed up, etc., but not necessary to halt. [ClaireC] Yes, that's true. In the case of diet, it's not always evident if it's "working", I'm wondering how long changes in food take to affect Stability. [MEntity] Only if one finds that the path is harming the self does one want to consider halting the progress. [ClaireC] Okay, that's a good guideline. Thank you. [MEntity] In terms of diet, Claire, we suggest considering monitoring for any effects that are claimed as part of the result of the diet, giving it the amount of time you deem willing to give it. [ClaireC] Good advice. Thanks. [MEntity] Sometimes the changes caused by a change in diet are not always pleasant, at first, so understanding that a detoxifying process sometimes occurs can be helpful for some diets, and not scrapping the diet because one is suddenly with cramps and diarrhea. These phases tend not to last long. However, if you find a continued state of distress on the body because of a diet, you may [MEntity] want to, at least, move into Neutrality until you understand if it is harmful or beneficial. [MEntity] We agree that a change in diet can be difficult to monitor for benefit because the body is so adaptable. [ClaireC] True. [ClaireC] Some people claim to feel great on a diet of junk food. Then have a heart attack. [MEntity] However, there do tend to be physical symptoms that help to give feedback about how one is eating, and this can be helpful for monitoring long-term changes in effect from diet. Depending upon the diet, we would suggest educating yourself about the claims of effects from the diet, and counterclaims. [MEntity] And decide from there. [MEntity] Your next step, then, might be education about the claims and also the counterclaims, or the facts vs the myths. [MEntity] We must conclude here today. [ClaireC] Thank you for the great session, Michael and Troy. [Diane_HB] Thank you Michael! [Maureen] Thanks Micheal and Troy!! [Diane_HB] and Troy!! [AnnH] That was incredibly helpful. Thank you Michael and Troy [ClaireC] Really helpful! [MEntity] Good day to each of you. Regardless of what you decide to do in your next steps, the map we have described in the processes and progress, the states and stages, can be used as a reminder that you are not lost, not defeated, and not failing. You are moving forward as you can, and as you will. You are not done. [MEntity] Goodbye.
MICHAEL SPEAKS Online 110908 OPEN FLOOR MICHAEL ENTITY: Hello to all of you. We are here. We will begin. QUESTION: Good evening, Michael. After having been separated, (this was my idea) for a number of years, my kitty cat is now living with me. At least for a while. (By mistake (?) I first wrote "living FOR me".... ) She has been quite ill recently, tumors in her stomach, nervous heart, no appetite, etc. But when she came to me, back to her old home, it seems health and good spirits have returned. I have for a long time seen myself as somebody who "understands cats". I am not so sure anymore.... Because of her frail health and because I have tried to find another home for her (I have a slight allergy plus travel a lot) I recently contacted an animal communicator. The message from my cat was, well, very touching. I am not so sure about me "understanding cats", or this kitty at least. I will not go into the message, but at times it sounded like you, Michael. I wonder why. She spoke much less about her than about me, her Human. (Seems the philosophical school of Stoics were inspired by cats.) Could you throw some further light on the dynamics of animal communication? That was my question. MICHAEL ENTITY: For the most part, those who claim to "communicate" with animals in this particular regard are collecting and interpreting data (usually emotional data) as held by the form of the animal, but is not actual communication with the animal, itself. We will elaborate: We have spoken of this before, will we speak of it again, that the kingdom of higher mammals, particularly those within domestic proximity to humans (sentience), are exploring the development of the Emotional Center. In doing so, the animal more often than not becomes a sort of emotional extension, or representation, of the human with which it is bonding. Many of the behaviors and physical conditions of the domestic animal are then reflections, or extensions, of the human's processes. Many animal communicators are then extracting that data and interpreting it back to the caretaker. Much in the same way that Psychometry works, the animal carries the imprinting and some can read/interpret emotional data of his/her caretaker. COMMENT: This was done over the telephone. I might add. MICHAEL ENTITY: Non-human animals do not "think" or "feel" in exact human terms, so the translation from the animal communicator must be relevant to the human. It has no bearing that this was done over the phone. Very few "animal communicators" are actually communicating with the animal, but rather extracting emotional data and translating it into relevancy to the human. This is not meant to diminish the value of the information, but simply to respond to your question. NEXT QUESTION QUESTION: Hi, Michael! Completing each Internal Monad in the positive pole is how we navigate thru each Level with-in the Soul Age; incompletion leaves the fragment in the negative pole of whichever “stage” of that IM. It seems to me that where a fragment is in relation to their IM’s would have a lot of impact on the Personality – as much as, say, the Goal & Attitude. There would have to be a strong Agreement, External Monad, or Karma to bring a person in negative completion of their 3rd IM (for example) in close relation to someone positively completing their IMs, no? Comments, please? MICHAEL ENTITY: We would not agree. A relationship with different results from the personal rites of passage in life is simply a spectrum of life. Two people may choose to endure the difference, build on the difference, complement each other, help each other, etc. but this would be a matter of choice, not necessarily a matter of binding through Karma or Monads, though it would be accurate to say that an Agreement in some form would be in place. The Negative Completion of an Internal Monad (rite of passage) is usually the extended impact from the False Personality, rather than the other way around. We wish to clarify that "negative completion" is a bit of a misnomer as every Internal Monad "enters" through the negative pole and eventually completes from the positive pole. It simply happens to be that it may take more than one lifetime for a fragment to move to a point in the positive pole. In other words, if one is in the negative pole, it is not truly "completed." If enduring relationships were subject to the position two people are within their personal rites of passage, there would be very little learning. NEXT QUESTION QUESTION: It appears that atopic allergy is partly hereditary, but also that it is not well understood what causes it to break out. Could you comment, especially if there is a way to cure it? MICHAEL ENTITY: First we will say that every illness has a "cure," but until the intellectual and emotional elements of disease are considered, most medicine and treatment will be relegated to the alleviation of symptoms and management. For the most part, every illness carries with it some amount of “universal” element, or “universal” instinctive issue that is consistent among human sentience. For instance, nearly every issue related to the skin is relative to a person's issues with a sense of safety in the world. When the skin is involved, the fragment would do well to explore the beliefs and assumptions about “the world as a dangerous place.” The one with the allergy may not use such a broad term, but may find an instance in her past where someone (or a situation) left a wounding that is relevant to the sensitivity of this person's place in her environment now. When allergies are a part of a child's physicality below the age of approximately 3 years old, the issues may be extensions from the primary caretaker. Children manifest symptoms relative to a caretaker in the same way that animal companions do. Hereditary allergies or any other physical compromise inherited, are often a specific choice of the Essence before the life, or considered a tolerable compromise in relation to the bigger picture of the life. However, many within a line of hereditary compromises do not manifest these compromises, so the end-result is still relative to the beliefs and assumptions of the fragment. In terms of a cure for this specific condition of atopic allergy, management is the only thing we can see available from the established medical resourced, but the fragment can do his or her own work toward transforming the underlying assumptions and beliefs that may have contributed to activation of the sensitivity. Managing from the outside, while curing from the inside, is always a most powerful approach to any illness or compromised condition. NEXT QUESTION QUESTION: I recall reading in MFM (Messages From Michael) about “romantic” or mating relationships that many people arbitrarily decide they have a “great deal in common” and they decide to proceed w/ the “next step” whether that be co-habitation, marriage, having children, or “all of the above.” This often results in “broken contracts.” Michael mentioned something to the effect that possessing the personal trait of “willingness to allow one another the space to learn, grow and/or evolve” to be one of the most important characteristics of a strong, enduring relationship. I am paraphrasing from memory here, so hopefully my memory has SOME semblance of accuracy w/ regards to what Michael has said in the past! My question is: Are there other considerations that can or should be given thought to (generally speaking of course) before one enters into or attempts an enduring relationship with another (marriage, for example) and if so, what are these considerations? I just look at the divorce rate getting higher and higher, and think to myself, “There should be a ‘better way,’ more of a ‘science’ to this courtship thing than there currently is given attention to.” It seems our current culture’s philosophy is more characteristic of a ‘throw in on the wall and see what sticks’ method. I realize that it is sort of in my “scholar” way to seek a “scientific method” for such a thing that is not all that “scientific.” ;) In addition, I might add that it also has not escaped my attention that this is may be too individual of a matter to be described in a more general sense (not to mention VERY broad), but I was curious about Michael’s thoughts on the matter. Of course, this might be why scholars seem to gravitate towards the Michael teachings: they seem very scientific method oriented -- what w/ all the validation and such. MICHAEL ENTITY: Primate relationships are not easily confined to the constructs of marriage, which inherently contradicts the profane nature of most, but whether through marriage or through mutual commitment that is not constrained by laws, long-term commitment is, of course, possible, but not the goal for most, even if they would like to think so. Beyond the social and cultural imprinting is the drive to evolve. Many quickly discover that they have associated the confinements of marriage and commitment with the cutting off of personal evolution. So not only does the individual have the profane nature of his primate self to contend with, but the higher drive to grow and evolve beyond perceived confinement. In a world that is evolving beyond cultural imprinting, evolving beyond incongruent rules and institutions, it is not surprising to us that a more fluid movement in and out of marriage has become a symptom of that evolution. This is not a sign of a breakdown of "morality," or a sign of irresponsibility, but quite the opposite. From our perspective, this is a sign of ownership of CHOICE, even if this is rather new in your world. The transition from the false safety (and sanctity) of marriage (and other institutions) and into the unknown of personal choice and fluid navigation, can seem chaotic and even hurtful, but these are simply "growing pains" of your species. A pattern will eventually emerge to accommodate this fluidity. The entire concept of marriage is currently under revolution in your society precisely as a part of these growing pains and adaptations to a new paradigm, a more mature paradigm. In terms of entering into a relationship, if one wishes to bring about a greater amount of presence and intention to commitment, we could suggest comprehending how relationships work, which would help you to "hang in there" when working through these natural processes. We will elaborate: Inherent in any commitment, are 7 stages, whether this commitment is to a project or to a relationship, and these 7 Stages are: Initiation Stage: You might recognize this as the stage for discovering commonalities. This stage inspires and offers up the entirety of potential for that relationship. This stage is often short-lived, but can last through most of the courting stage. Discrimination/Discernment Stage: this is where most projects or relationships end, or remain stuck, because this is the stage where everything that WILL NOT WORK is brought up for examination. This examination is natural, and is a part of helping the evolution of that relationship by bringing to the awareness of all involved what might be pitfalls, traps, gaps, and an opportunity for finding solutions is intended here. Many who enter this stage of a relationship tend to think that the information arising is a sign that the relationship is clearly not going to work, or that it is fated to collapse. Or the fragments involved realize that he or she is simply not interested in doing the work of finding solutions. This stage is a natural and important factor for building a relationship because, in the same way that one would not build a home on a faulty, unchecked foundation would one builds neither a project nor relationship upon one. The 3rd Stage, if one allows room for the insights, solutions, and wonder of discovering differences within the 2nd Stage, begins then. This is the Stage of Stability. This stage is lengthy and acts as a plateau for the relationship; the home built upon the now-sturdy foundation. This can last for many years. As with any home, regardless of how sturdy the foundation, storms WILL arise. This is Stage 4: Interruption, Corruption, Threat, Challenge, etc. No matter how strong or how long a relationship has enjoyed stability, CHANGE will come. Understanding that this is an opportunity for rejuvenation, revitalization, revolution, reinforcement, can help one to navigate this natural process. This is a natural part of any evolution in a project or relationship simply because it is the nature of the universe to evolve, and evolution requires CHANGE. Once a relationship or project has grown steadily for some time, it is natural to participate in the nature of change and evolution. Many believe that infidelity at this point is a sign of a failed marriage, but this can be opportunity for re-evaluation and recommitment. Infidelity is the result of not understanding the need for change and challenge within the relationship. Change does not have to come in the form of threat or infidelity, but can come from a conscious choice to raise the stakes, bring on an adventure, and expand beyond the safety and stability enjoyed. In other words, knowing that “storms” may arise, the relationship can include as part of its commitment a built-in understanding and adaptability for this, because it WILL happen. This stage, like stage 2, contributes the most to failed businesses, projects, and relationships. If one or both (or more) are not willing to do the work of navigating this storm, the progress dissipates. If all involved can find footing and opportunity in this uprising, then Stage 5 can begin, which is Healing, or recovery, adaptation to the new information, new direction, new elements. Once the healing stage is implemented, Stage 6 can come about, which is the very personal comprehension, transformation, sense of completion. This is Stage 6, Gratitude. One comprehends the necessity and value of all that has happened. A final stage of 7 is involved here, as well, but can be implemented at any point within all of these stages, and it is the Assimilation, Digestion, or "time out" stage. This could very well be the most important stage to comprehend as being vital to a relationship's evolution. When a partner needs to call a "time out" or a halt to the intensity of events, it may not be pleasant or easy, but if the other can honor this, it can help both to get back on track TOGETHER, when both are ready. There is much more to be said about these stages, but this is a fair synopsis, and would be our response to the question of an organized method for understanding what to consider before entering into a union or project. [note from TROY: the information above is not “original” to me, and was first published by Jose Stevens in Tao to Earth; although this is all Michael, I like to credit where information might have first been organized.] MICHAEL ENTITY: NEXT Question QUESTION: I've read channeling from this channel that the president elect could be called the "president of disaster" but I am also hearing more positive channeling from others that this president elect is the one that will help bring about more positive change for our nation. could you elaborate on that, please. MICHAEL ENTITY: We would have to say that we have no channels at this time, from approximately 5 weeks before, and 5 weeks after, the U.S. election who are unaffected by personal experiences at this time. Both the optimistic and the pessimistic flavors are higher than ever and not sourced from us, even if much of the information is still clear. We will clarify: What this channel has described as "president of disaster" might have been more accurately described as a "president with the obligation to manage more turbulence and change than one president may have been known to have had to manage before." This may show up as "disasters" or "revolutions of consciousness." Both would be valid projections of probability. What your country (and world) does with the inherent qualities of such a change in dynamic is far more relevant than what we, or our channels, or our students, or pundits project as possibilities. In other words, there is a world of possibility and at this point, it will remain difficult to project, but this is Good Work. Most in your world have experienced a sudden, absolute awareness of possibilities that can only be created through choices and actions. In other words, this is the closest your collective sentience has ever come to "living from the Now," so to speak. It will not last, of course, but the possibilities are endless at this point. We have described this year as carrying the energy of the Chief Negative Feature of Arrogance, which is the Fear of Vulnerability, and this became emphasized for exploration in October. This means that there was a high potential for defensiveness, reaction, a sense of self-protection to have arisen within the public this year, but what has happened is quite the opposite. We have never seen so much of the population collectively embrace vulnerability as strength, and not something from which to protect them. This drop in self-defense as a collective consciousness has moved many of you to tears. We will have more to say about this in our Energy Report to be posted later, but we suspect that many of our students are seeing strange and beautiful signs within their personal lives indicating a sense of opening up to the world again, opening up to support, to trust, to vulnerability. We will conclude here. Goodbye.