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October 7, 1999 Troy Tolley, Channel Dreams and Symbols 3 of 3 [Michael_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. One moment. As Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] shared, we will begin by taking questions in reference to our Energy Forecast first. You may begin if there are questions. [Luna2ne] It sounds like this month is a clearing process for all of us? Before we begin work on this year's platform, and the platform for the next 1000 years? [Michael_Entity] In part, yes. It is not new though. This is no different than any other period of release. The difference now being only that there will appear to be more to release or consider or realize before moving forward. In truth, it is simply a heightened projection of meaning placed on otherwise ordinary events. You are moving into an Instinctive Centered year, and this month being the “new year” for you Older Souls, it is your first movement toward that. We say “this being the new year” in reference to this month, October, on your calendars. What would normally be a simple process, mild depression, or “the blahs”, even spaciness, will now be laced with what we called Grief. Not all you of will shed tears as a result of this process, but your bodies will certainly shed truths and import the foundations of new ones. Hence, the connection to the “next thousand years” and platforms. [MaryBV] We are all remembering our dreams this week. Is Michael referring to these when they talk about death and endings? In other words, do we need to close our past before we can move ahead to a new level of awareness? [Michael_Entity] We would not say ‘close’, instead, we would say embrace. Many of you find your pasts to be the only validity of your being. This is a distraction from your potential. We do not pass judgment, we only speak in terms of what is sought by Essence. As you, as Personality, become ever more blurred in differentiation from Essence, memories flow in dreams, in thoughts, and in fantasy, all stemming in some way from the foundations of who “you” have been. There will come a lifetime for all of you (as Essence) where full cognitive awareness of most lives, loves, and immortality is accepted, making that life the pivotal life that ties up the culmination of all that Essence seeks in this Grand Cycle. For some of you, this life is that life. For others, this life is being AFFECTED by the life that IS that life, even if in your “future” or “past”. In either case, validation is necessary on multiple levels in order to evolve. This validation will come through the sound and personal realization of the “past” and what that has contributed to your being. When we have spoken of this period of time being of Grief, it is the absorption/dispersion of long-held truths that have been generated by various selves in this life and others. This may happen in dreams. Rather than being distracted by the memories, or held in the “past” by them, the truths will be released/absorbed as PART of “you” and this could be one of your most freeing experiences then. So we say “embrace”, rather than “close”. Though we are not prone to humour as you might perceive it, we do find it humourous in your cultures to be preoccupied with weight gain, while on the Essence Levels you are always seeking to grow “bigger”. This is, after all, an expanding universe. [Azure362] Can you expand upon how the physical body will shed truths and import the foundations of new truths? [Michael_Entity] Yes. We include in the “physical body” also the environment in which the physical body resides. This would include its relationships, its foods, its health, its interactions; it’s sensation of textures, etc. If anything is rare in this process, it is the potential for this to be a period where you feel “reset”. This past year has had little substance if examined in retrospect, at least in terms of time. It was passed through quickly due to the Centering of the year. This year has acted as a literal, material filter. What will be happening throughout the month is a cleansing of that filter, an examination of what has come to pass, and a sense of freedom as this filter is freed from obstacles. We lack a better analogy at this point, but it will do. So when we say “shed truths”, it will be that which has remained in your ‘filter”, not working. When we say “import foundations for new truths”, we speak of the freedom that cleansing will have and the room gained (the filter cleansed) for new truths to reside, ‘stick with you”, so to speak. We would suggest each of you turn inward and/or look outward to find two truths that have changed for you on each level. Personal, Global, and what truths you have come closer to that are Universal. It may be revealing to see where you have become freed. On the more specific physical level, our statement literally means that some of you will change certain physical attributes in accommodation of your process. Illness may occur, or healing, whichever is more adequate to explore the new truths. Changes in diet, changes in feelings toward others, changes in how you sleep, etc. All symptoms of your personal realizations, releases, and possible grieving. The most obvious we can see occurring and prevalent is in the complete esteem each of you might have as you experience YOU. With or without external references for value or validation, each seems to have a sense of self that is sturdy and stands strong, even if alone. This is unusual, even for some of our oldest students. In short, you all seem to be loving yourselves more. We will begin the topic then. LEVELS OF DREAMING: ASTRAL LEVELS Astral Levels of dreaming are the territory of Essence. Astral Levels of dreaming are entered through one of the three lower centers, the Emotional, the Intellectual, or the Action. This is all entered from the Instinctive Center, where all dreams originate. In this state, rather than each event, object, or person being symbolic (as in the Symbolic/Instinctive Level), these become more “real”, at least to Essence. There is still an element of Symbology here, as symbology permeates almost all levels of being. Instead of the symbology representing facets of SELF, the symbology represents facets of SOUL. Where the psyche of the Personality gets to explore itself in sub-personalities while in the Instinctive/Symbolic Level, the Astral Level allows the Essence to explore itself through the actual Personalities of various lifetimes. It is in this Level that you resolve emotional Karma, strike up Agreements, update plans, engage past lives, etc. When entered through the ACTION entrance, this level is marked by great activity of course and environments become prominent. This is where you notice more WHERE you are. This is the facet where past lives are mostly played out. This is with exceptions though, and is not static, just more common. This facet is used for the “past” because Essence is more easily able to manipulate environment to resemble scenarios recalling lives as another self. The EMOTIONAL facet is the entrance where most resolution, healing, or comprehension occurs between present self and past self, or self and another fragment. It is marked by impact on you even upon waking. The Emotional Entrance of the Astral Level is marked by impact on the waking state more than other entrances. Though you may find it difficult to differentiate which actual Center is being experienced in the dream, we find these marked differences an easy way to identify if you choose. In the Emotional entrance, you scream, you fight, you cry, you laugh, sometimes even waking experiencing the same. The INTELLECTUAL facet is where you learn. This is where you, as Essence, gather information, gain insights, process the Cycle to that point, and make plans, agreements, and set up Karmic engagements. This is marked by a sense of being in what you interpret as “school”. These then are brief explorations of the three lower center entrances making up the ASTRAL Level of dreaming. We remind you that this is an evolving body of information through this channel and others and we suggest reading all transcripts to grasp the continuity. We will take questions now. [ksh] Does the soul exist on different levels i.e. the Tao level, astral, casual etc? [Michael_Entity] Yes. Of Course. Would you like to elaborate on your question? [ksh] Can we connect with those souls? Do they have a separate intelligence? [Michael_Entity] Intelligence as you know it is no longer a factor on some Higher Levels. We remind you we use “higher and lower” only as a convenience, not a truth. [ksh] How do we communicate with them ? [Michael_Entity] These “higher” parts of “you” (and by “you” we mean Essence) do not have a sense of separateness, though to “you” as Personality, of course, you would seek contact AS IF it is separate. Some of our own channels are working with “you” on this level as even we speak now. For instance, our channel known as Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] to you is working with his own collective Energy Ring as a consciousness. This would be likened to your future selves, collective. We do not have a “how” at this point to share within this space. We may address this in another context later. But yes, “you” exist on all of those levels and can be accessed. [Sandra51] Questions directed to the topic of the Levels of Dreaming. [Suzee] Is the feeling of anxiety present in dreams part of the emotional entrance? [Michael_Entity] This would depend on certain factors. Anxiety can sometimes be the waking state’s interpretation of any level of dreaming. Upon leaving a dream, the waking personality might infuse its present uncertainty on the memory of the dream, even if not actually felt within the dream. Aside from this possibility, anxiety would be more the result of being in the Emotional entrance, yes. More often though, as we spoke of, the waking INTELLECT that cannot reason the Emotional entrance’s experiences creates the anxiety AFTER waking. [FloorDog] The Element water is commonly associated with the astral. I’m curious as to the meaning of water in astral dreams, especially large bodies? I find in many dreams I seek them out and take pleasure in immersing myself in them, especially surf. Would you say this is the action entrance? (assuming they are astral in nature)? [Michael_Entity] If the element of water is to be interpreted symbolically on its own, it is most likely within the Instinctive Level. If it is part of a landscape of the Astral, which can be differentiated by the thoroughness and detail of the landscape/environment, then it is part of the Emotional elements of the past or present explored. It is safe to assume, if the Level is clearly Astral, that any element (predefined in your culture) that relates to a Center is that Center being explored WITHIN the context of that Level of dreaming. For instance to be submerged in WATER (emotional) in a ACTION environment (with the landscape and scenery being the prominent factor), then it might be safe to assume you are exploring the emotional part of the moving center. We will take personal questions now to the best of our ability at this time. It is advised by Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] that you consider the group and time constraints. [TCB] You mentioned about the energy ring consciousness, What was my dream about the ‘energy ring’ with Barry, and some others, that I didn’t recognize? [Michael_Entity] This was a personal definition, different than ours, speaking of the connections between yourself and presently incarnated connections. It is information about your Configuration. A Septant. This may be validating or not, but we are limited in what is available about this dream at this time. [MaryBV] I would like Michael to comment on the memory of my kneeling on a cold, stone floor in a cathedral surrounded by my women. What life am I remembering and is this an example of a past life memory done through the emotional astral entrance? I don’t need a blow by blow account, just a very brief comment. [Michael_Entity] This would be the ACTION entrance, Astral Level. This is a valid lifetime memory accounting for that life’s experience of its Overleaves as parallel to this life. The women, as we see it, were all the selves from past incarnations and future sharing the same Goal. That life is the pivotal advisor for the “best” expression of the Goal. [Sandra51] Personal Questions… Nemo999 [nemo999] Thanks, how can I let go of negativity [Michael_Entity] You cannot. We would rarely say something that appears so condemning, but it is a truth in your universe that it must be explored as a path to what you might call your “positivity”. What you call “negativity” presently are simply judgments on the process. You are merely EXPERIENCING. If there is resistance to experience, “negativity” results. In your case, we suggest you listen carefully to feedback. There is little listening happening in your life, only sensitivity and defense. Remind yourself that you are safe, if you wish to hear your world’s answers to freedom. [nemo999] How then can I see that I am safe? [Michael_Entity] By choosing to see through your own eyes. Someone else taught you to feel insecure and vulnerable. That was their truth, not yours. This month may be your month to turn that around. It is no longer necessary to pay homage to another’s idea of you. In every instance, stop to determine if you feel ‘safe’. If you do not feel safe, DECIDE to feel safe in your decision, even if not completely convinced. It is a start. [Azure362] My back has spasmed out like it used to do over 20 years ago. This seems to be a “repeat” lesson of sorts or is it a truth I am resisting, or shedding, or what? [Michael_Entity] It's simply an old truth revisited. It is not a repeat lesson. It is one you never realized you “kept around” for good measure. It has always lurked in your background as a means for “excuse” if needed. You have determined that it is no longer valid through your revisiting. It will pass, if we are correct in our perception. Your intake of water will help on the physical level. This is in relation to your material world, security issues and finances. It is time for you to rest assured you are safe on that level. [Luna2ne] What is my brother’s family Ikon? What is my family Ikon? [Michael_Entity] Brother: “the extravagant” You: “the Satellite” We do not profess that this is accurate as we would need to focus more on you directly. This might be only a facet of the Ikon. [TCB] Septant configuration. What are we doing, life task work? Can you elaborate just a bit? [Michael_Entity] Yes, only slightly; conscious validation of essence contact seems to be the task, or part of it. Again, we are limited in this context for deeper explorations. Again, this is a start. We will now conclude. Goodnight.
Janet posted a topic in 1999 Michael SpeaksMarch 4, 1999 Troy Tolley, Channel Dreams and Symbols 1 of 3 [Michael_Entity] Hello everyone. We are here. We'll start off with the weather forecast as usual and comment on your shared exploration of symbols on your discussion lists today. We had mentioned in our last couple of interactions that some of you were looking to ANIMALS as symbols for where you were heading in your exploration of probable futures. It is clear that many of you partaking in the discussions today on your lists will be moving further into your EXTERNAL worlds and lending your presence to actions required there. The symbolism in your debate and exchange over where animals stand in terms of rights was obviously not the level of discussion occurring for yourselves internally, with your own Essences, but rather gauging where you individually stand with how much you are willing to give OUTWARDLY this year. Your debate was symbolic. It is a difficult and enticing potential decision to be making yourselves available for outward interaction when you have mostly, for the past couple of years, (and some of you for the past four or five years), have been INWARDLY healing and improving. This period of time where your symbols showed up and where your reactions stood individually, brings up some very personal and deeply touched issues that have “just” been “healed” to a degree. What we mean by this is that any of you interacting with ANIMALS as symbols over the past few weeks, where animals were in dreams, or as in today's exchange in heated discussion, essence has suggested through these symbols that you might be “ready” to “go back out there”. Many of you have been bored with your EXTERNAL worlds giving intensity and focused lessons in your INTERPERSONAL worlds. Though interpersonal relationships are far from being completed in terms of lessons, it is a period of time currently where many Older Souls are being called outwardly to be present in the world for more impact. We will say this: As the exploration of symbols comes to a close sometime into next week, we have seen those of you who have brought ANIMALS to the forefront of your symbolism each having some sort of Teacher/Student Agreements unfolding. We would suggest you trust your inclinations to “reach out” to those who ask. Finally, March 12 through 14 appear to be pivotal days for most you gathered here. This is the overall window for your finalizing your decisions on an Essence and Personality level for: 1. How available you will be, 2. In what capacity you will be available, 3. For what length of time you will be willing to take focus off of your personal lives. QUESTIONS? [k1] There are five us joining to gather on the internet to connect. Can you give us some advice on what the first focus might be? This is a regular committed group of students. [Michael_Entity] It appears to us that you have already decided that focus, which could be called “collective intuitive exposure”. Each of you are exposing to what capacity you are capable of intuitive EXPRESSION and RECEPTION, some of you will be receiving, while others EXPRESSING. Specifically we see 2 of you as expressing data that has been collected during your individual pursuits, while 3 of you are receiving, either through the 2 expressing or through their own heightened levels of development in your gatherings. TOPIC: Dreams & Symbols Dreams have become highlighted again, and usually are, during Parallel Shifts. This is one way with which to explore all of your options as ESSENCE and including Personality. When one enters into Dream State, it is almost always entered through the Instinctive Center. The Instinctive Center acts as a mediating ground for determining what is to be experienced while the body is resting. There are THREE levels or planes of Dreaming. Symbolic/Instinctive Astral/Lower Centers Out Of Body/Higher Centers Depending on the nature of the Waking State prior to sleeping, you will enter Instinctive Center, assimilate or evaluate your experiences, and move on to either Astral or Out Of Body. We will address the Symbolic Level first: It is easily determined when in the Symbolic level because there are simply SYMBOLS everywhere. This is the level where most find quite elaborate fantastical worlds and strange interactions and props. While in this level, simple concerns of the day or registered events not consciously noted are brought to light and processed, stored. This is also where all of your Sub personalities interact and exchange their perceptions of events. All of the symbols experienced here MEAN SOMETHING, but it is only through individual analysis that one can truly determine their meaning. We will note here that if one were to never discover the meanings of their internal symbols nothing would be lost except conscious interaction between inner and outer domains; it is certainly not NECESSARY to know the meanings of symbols in your dreams. Why we share this information with our Students is simply because many of you are in a place where “inner” and “outer” are closer together, therefore knowledge gained in one area means breakthrough on many levels. To move on: While in the Instinctive Center or Symbolic Level, depending on your particular Centering or Center “worked” that day, you will then move FROM the Symbolic through, for instance, the Emotional PART of the Instinctive Center. To elaborate then, the Instinctive Level or Symbolic Level would then have 7 “doors” through which to move. The most fantastical and indecipherable dreams are from the Instinctive PART of the Instinctive Center. You have remained in pure symbolism. This is helpful for processing experiences carried over from past lives, and certain parts of early life THIS lifetime. This is also the level with which many gain lucidity and claim Astral Projection, warning of dangers and fearful domains. This is due to the pure experience of Instinctive/Symbolic exploration while in a conscious state. Now the next level, the ASTRAL level, is where most of you go next. This is simply where you make your Agreements, learn from each other, play out Karma not requiring Physical presence, etc. The Astral Level is extremely fluid and still utilizes symbols (all levels do to a certain extent) and it is easily determined you have “been there” if upon rising you literally FEEL like you have “gone somewhere”. This is truly the realm of Essence. Where the Symbolic Level is about Personality and its Sub personalities, the ASTRAL is about Essence and its Personalities. We will move quickly to the next level, realizing again the constraints of your time. In rare designs of Personality and under certain conditions, Out Of Body experiences occur. This is able to occur since upon leaving the Symbolic, the consciousness moves through one of the Higher Centers. In this instance, literally, Essence AND Personality fuse and are able to sustain the Etheric Body in such a way as to remain within the Physical Plane without the constraints of a Physical reference. A fusion of energies rather rare within this time period of your species is experienced in this event. A more recent and not uncommon bridging of acceptance toward this level of dreaming is in Near Death Experiences. This is merely the scratched surface of this topic, but we will take questions now in regard to the topic. QUESTIONS. [M6] I dreamed I was with this chat group at a party in a beautiful and old apartment building. I felt I knew everyone and was excited to arrive. I had a specific task relating to a specific person. What level was this dream, and what did it signify about our relationships and work together? [Michael_Entity] Although we have not elaborated on the more specific levels, this would be, from our perspective, the Astral, of course, and Intellectual Substrate. The significance would be an angle with which you need to explore. This dream is incomplete in its exploration. We see this as a sequential dream. [Note from Otterly [aka Troy Tolley]: I hadn't heard of this before and will be getting more on it. We will be continuing this topic at the next meeting]. [El] I just wanted to ask how one can remember the astral work? [Michael_Entity] The dream experts are correct. Upon rising, a simple noting of certain memories from dreaming, even if vague, is the most effective route toward Conscious Recall. When looking over your notes it is also an extended exercise for the conscious waking self to fill in the gaps with imagined experiences. This means, if you can't remember what ACTUALLY occurred, it is not amiss to pull up creative ideas based on what you wrote, drawing still from your unconscious/dreaming self. Be creative. [Jn] I have some rather similar dreams where I am in familiar places (in dreams, not in physical) and met with familiar people. Are these dreams contacts from entity mates? Are we meeting for our entity task? BTW, what's my entity task? [Michael_Entity] Many of these contacts, in your case, as we see it are more than your Entity Mates, they are your Essence's manifestations through time; past life selves. You are in a lifetime where gathering knowledge from a multitude of similar selves across time is a regular resource for your present self. So this is more of an element of Essence Task not necessarily an Entity Task although they are linked. The Task of your Essence (or one of your Personal Life Tasks) then would be “gathering personal definitions of strength through recollected knowledge”. [Mn] To which level would you liken Jung’s archetypes of the collective unconscious? And can you say anything about following his methods of dream interpretation, or is it better to devise your own? [Michael_Entity] Archetypes are Waking State Symbols. We have not covered this yet here. Though they DO spring from the Astral Collective ideas (or Unconscious Collective), they are still an outward manifestation. We will cover waking state symbols in our next exchange, and the levels involved. As far as Jung's method of dream interpretation, we find it heavily flawed in that it negates the individual to a great degree. There were clues here to levels of information about Collective Unconscious/Astral Collective, but to apply it to dream ANALYSIS moves one in a direction where his theories are less workable. [a1] On what level does lucid dreaming occur? [Michael_Entity] ALL levels. It can occur on any level. Lucid Dreaming is an umbrella term. To be LUCID simply means you are conscious while on the level of dreaming being experienced. There are levels in which it is more difficult to attain this state, particularly the Instinctive PART of the Instinctive Center. Although, ironically, this is the first level to gain notoriety for lucidity due to its bizarre landscapes. [fg] I've had many dreaming experiences, some of which I thought were conscious out of body experiences. From what was said here they seem on the other hand to be rare. Last night I had such a dream. Have these dreams I'm speaking of not been conscious OOB? Is it a case of just being lucid astrally speaking? [Michael_Entity] You are correct. Lucid Astral Dreaming is most often mistaken for Out Of Body. We will say that Lucid Astral Dreaming seems to the be the popular chosen route as a “springboard” for OOBEs. The experiences on the Astral, while lucid, gives the Personality some stability in its preparation for completely disengaging from Body. It does require extremely heightened consciousness to sustain the Etheric body while moving through the Physical Plane, or heavily sustained injuries “knocking” the Etheric out of the body, Personality intact. Note we did not say you have not had an OOBE, in fact you have. It is through your studies and examinations of the minute differences between the ASTRAL and your OOBE that you will then be able to maintain an “open door” out of the body, if you wish. [s5] Bridging of Acceptance and death scapes, how are these two subjects intertwined? Where does one's own creativity intrude? [Michael_Entity] If you are referring to our information about Near Death Experiences being a bridge to acceptance of “natural” OOBE, this is simply because your species has chosen to take this route of exposure for this realm. Those sharing their experiences are in a position of influence on a “grass roots” level. Though many contributing to this phenomenon are Late Baby Souls, they are nonetheless contributing to the acceptability of “something” valid in terms of consciousness beyond the body. [s5] I am just trying to understand which is which? [Michael_Entity] S, ‘which is which’? [s5] What is created vs what is real? Or once created does it become real? [Michael_Entity] The reason for your confusion comes from the fact that there is no defining boundary. That is why a valid form of dream recollection is to “make up” the parts you do not remember upon waking. We will take another question, then complete the session. [ha] Back to the OOBE line; I had an unusual experience where I felt like I was lying on top of myself, what would this indicate—OOB or lucid dreaming? Or something other? [Michael_Entity] This is the beginning of OOBE. You are becoming lucid “too quickly”, drawing yourself “back into” the body. [ha] Yes, I totally understand. I'm of two minds about whether to go or not. [Michael_Entity] We will share more of the details of these levels of dreaming for Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] to put on his web site. We can continue in our next exchange. We will close the session now. Good night. ### end of session This topic continues in Michael Speaks -- Dreams and Symbols (Part 2 of 3)