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I have been compiling my own Michael Teachings for about 10 years and don't always keep specific notes on where the info came from, because I don't need to catalog it for anyone other than me. So I do not remember where I got this discussion on Bashar. But it was copied and pasted from the original source. Sorry! I tried to find it again on line but could not. Anyway, do we still have a forum for other teachers? I couldn't find that, either. Guess I'm having a great day, haha! I can tell you that Judene is currently on Facebook and YouTube, it looks like she does something called MetaMind.