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January 4, 2001 Troy Tolley, channel Open Floor [Michael_Entity] Hello. We are here. One moment. We realize, once again, there is no Topic suggested of us, so we will simply move into an Open Floor format. [ludmila] There has been much talk lately about child-abuse. What kind of karma or agreements is involved in this? Specifically sexual abuse of children by adult authority figures [Michael_Entity] Child abuse is not a standardized event. There are many factors that may be involved in the experience of abuse, whether between adult and child, human and non-human, etc. Karma is either created or is being balanced, though it is very rare for an Agreement to be involved, except in the Old and Mature Soul Cycles. Abuse when linked to an Agreement is specifically, then, related to the imprinting required for the fulfillment of the Life Task. Whether the abuse is “used” effectively as a tool in that process will rely on the fragment and the use of the Overleaves, in general. Abuse in relation to “Authority Figures” and children is not a category anymore than abuse from a stranger harassing a child on the playground. There are no definitions or differentiations that can create categories of abuse except in “styles” of abuse. We will say, however, that those who have experienced abuse as children at the hands of Authority Figures (assuming it is not a Karmic Formation) are generally balancing Karma related to Positions of Authority where Abuse was inflicted by “themselves.” As with all Burning of Ribbons, the Karmic situation is usually, simply, reversed. We do not know if we have addressed the deeper issues of concern or question here, but we have answered the question as stated, as clearly as we can. [mamajo] How can one tell when Karma is being created, and when it is an agreement to facilitate imprinting? [Michael_Entity] Any formation/burning of Karma interrupts and distracts the life in a deeply affecting way. Karmic Formation can usually be identified as lacking compulsion to be involved, but there is an element of shock and chaos. Karmic Burning of Ribbons is usually marked by a compulsion to remain involved far past logic and emotion and body would dictate otherwise, followed by a great relief when the Karma is burned. In the event of the Burning, much of what was so compelling is then seen in a bewildering light, as if you were in a trance the whole time. In terms of facilitating Imprinting, the fragment being abused usually has a “bizarre” sense of safety and peace throughout the events. There is a creation of a strong support group outside of the event, in many of these cases, which are rare, as we said. The abuse as imprinting is heavily marked by this use of the experience as a platform for a greater vision or affect on the life in a discernible way, without referencing the abuse in a negative way. [momhawk] Hello Michael. I was wondering about family ‘icons’ vs. ‘working groups’ as per your channel Victoria Marina. This material seems more in the Shamanistic vein, and I was wondering if there might be another way to view this type of Information, from a different ‘angle’ or slant (Perspective ;-) Does cadre 1/entity 1 have any ‘task groups’ that may be exploring “abuse” themes? Thank you. [Michael_Entity] Family Ikons are vastly different from Working Groups and have no bearing on each other. One is the imposition on the Personality as imposed by expectations from family and early environmental influences from important fragments in the life, while the other is a configuration of fragments working on esoteric themes begun in the Alexandrian Schools. Though we do not claim the latter as “our teaching,” we do have access to facilitating the teachers of that information. What you refer to as “task groups,” we may simply call Entity Themes. Your concepts of Task Groups, though, are not inaccurate, as there are pockets within the entity that do work on various themes. There is an “overall” theme, of course, for instance, in terms of your Entity being the most Cardinal and numbered 1 in your Cadre. Your themes in general will all be linked to Purpose and Simplicity; the positive and negative poles of any Entity One. Within the Entity there will be, again, a division in Cardinal and Ordinal themes. Many of you working with issues of abuse for your Entity are in the Ordinal half of your Entity. [momhawk] Would these ‘themes’ then, be like major and minor ‘octaves’ of learning experiences? [Michael_Entity] We would not link the terms “major or minor octaves of learning” to the themes. Those terms can relate to the overall Entity's collection of experiences and to a fragment's experiences, yes, but we do not define an order to these themes from this level with those terms. [momhawk] Ok, could entity one be ‘specializing’ in a major octave of HUMANITIES, with various ‘minor’ octaves (or ‘themes’) of those ‘subcategories’ (such as abuse), for instance? [Michael_Entity] The way you presented your last question, yes, your definition can easily be applied. Artisans are even more preoccupied with the architecture and order of an Entity and Universe than even us. We say that with validity, not necessarily to provoke humour. [nemo999] Should I expect or seek justice on the physical plane? It does not appear to exist here, or for a personality. [Michael_Entity] This would depend on your definition of “Justice.” If by this you mean a sweet feeling of satisfaction for having felt something has wronged you, there can be temporary satisfaction in various ways, but rarely does it settle the “soul.” If by Justice you mean an awesomely compassionate balance to every event, then that is something you can count on entirely to be found. [nemo999] Balance within one life span? [Michael_Entity] While on the Physical Plane, much of what is sought as “justice” is simply a need to be acknowledged. Much of what is defined within a lifetime as injustice or justice is but a minute part of the larger picture. It is only within the concepts of the Old Cycle that a fragment may truly be able to bring to the Physical Life a sense of that awesome balance. So, to answer your question more succinctly: to expect or seek justice within a lifetime before the Old Cycle is usually indicative of Maya, Self-Karma, Karma, or Chief Feature and the apparent balance may or may not be seen. [Kathie89] I am interested in palmistry. Does frequency show up in the hands? Specifically, do smooth fingers indicate high frequency and knotted fingers show low frequency? [Michael_Entity] The hands are an excellent indicator of how the Frequency is being used, but not necessarily what that person's Frequency is. Smoother joints/knuckles in the fingers do appear to indicate the processing of the life to be at a higher frequency, while more “knotted” joints/knuckles can indicate a halting or stalling of processing of the life. Those who have lower frequencies will have had “knotted” fingers for most of their life, regardless, and can rarely “smooth” them out, but those with higher frequencies can tend to create a more “knotted” structure due to being imposed on by lower frequency fragments. It is much more “acceptable” in general to have a lower to mid frequency, therefore those with higher frequencies are more subject to being reprimanded in their processing style for “not thinking,” being “too spontaneous,” “jumping into things,” being “chaotic,” etc. If lower frequency fragments surround a higher frequency fragment, the knotting can indicate this reduction of processing to accommodate. [Kathie89] So life experience can slow down a high frequency? [Michael_Entity] It cannot “slow” the frequency itself, but it can slow down the fragment's managing of it. For instance, those who have higher frequencies who deal with the imposition of lower frequencies tend to “pop their knuckles” more, burn their hands at some point seriously, get bitten, etc., as a means to bring a consciousness to the process that would normally not be required. We will note additionally that those with higher frequencies even when having knotted joints will still tend to have a “smoother” flow over the knuckle, a gradual shaping. Though this is not an intended pun, our response only touches the surface of this question regarding palmistry. There is more correlation that is valid. [Lori] I would like to know what working group or theme I might be in my entity seven, cadre one. [Michael_Entity] Though we do not specialize in that teaching through this channel, we can say that it appears you would be part of what is referred to as the HAWK Working Group. In terms of your Entity's Theme in general, Entity 7 is geared toward the spectrum between Inculcation and Eclecticism; the positive and negative poles of any Entity 7. The themes within your particular Entity are highly active in Teaching. Most specialize in addressing troubled Personalities in some fashion, offering insight, healing or teaching. There are a great number of psychiatrists, ministers, and therapists (physical and emotional), and musicians with focus on healing as the result of their music. Andreas Vollenweider is a prominent example of the latter. [Barb] Good evening, Michael. I realize you are not a “Psychic Eye” per se, but can you give us any probabilities as to what the next four years hold in store for the United States under the leadership of our next president, George W. Bush? [Michael_Entity] We do not believe this fragment will remain in a position long enough to warrant a look into the next four years. The percentages are quite high for this fragment to leave his position in a rather dramatic fashion. He only wanted the experience of “winning” and living up to his own Family Ikon. This is ecstasy for that fragment and the responsibilities that go with remaining in the position are far too overwhelming. This is one of your major shifts in Power that will be scrutinized. Especially after the apparent fiasco around the process of getting this fragment to that position in the first place. The next four years, though, will be focused on themes instilling a new consciousness around CHOICE. Your election was one of the first “lessons” around this Century of Choice and the ramifications of choice being interfered with or not enforced. A new “60's” mentality appears to be on the horizon with greater numbers in protest and “raising their voices.” It is safe to say that the Mature Soul consciousness is well under way on your planet. [MaryBV] I know the name for cadre 1, entity 1 is She-Hulk, but what is the name for Cadre 2, entity 3? If possible could we get the names for entities 1-7 in this cadre? [NOTE from Troy: Below, in response to the above question, is a good example of channeling being influenced by the limitations of ME. “I” read the question to Michael wrong and they responded to that. This is a more literal example, but any channel in their interpretation can distort any question and then the channeling/Michael responds to that. Sometimes that subtlety would be hard to see. Anyway, take it as an interesting fumble, if nothing else!] [Michael_Entity] That is not the name for Entity One, Cadre One. That is a convenient and affectionate name chosen by some of our channels to capture the “flavour” of that Entity's general dynamic. Understanding that these are not names chosen by us, we will share what, in general, has come to be references for these Entities: Entity One: “She-Hulk”; due to the Artisan/Warrior dynamic and the fact of Artisans being in more male bodies, while Warriors being in Female bodies. Entity Two: “The Loudmouths”; due to the high proportion of Artisans and Sages. One only need meet a fragment from that Entity to understand this nickname. [MaryBV] Michael, please excuse the interruption, but I was requesting information on cadre 2 [Michael_Entity] We are limited by our channel's eyes, of course. We are “blind” without them. We will respond again: since Cadre Two has so few fragments involved directly with us, there has come to be no consistent “nicknames” for the Entities. As we said, they are not names chosen by us, but we are unaware of any significant names at this time. It would not be difficult to create them, if you observe more of the dynamics of the entities involved. We, then, do not have an answer for this. [End of Channel Blunder, ha ha] [Barry] Regarding your description of working groups as “a configuration of fragments working on esoteric themes begun in Alexandrine schools….,” this struck a chord with me. I’m not asking for details, but can you confirm whether I am part of such a group and if so, what it’s esoteric theme is? (Cadre 1, Entity 6) [Michael_Entity] You are from an obscure grouping called LEOPARD. The themes involve being in highly contrasting environments from what your “true colours” are, thus bringing whatever teaching theme is being studied at the time to more fragments not directly linked to that teaching. Your entity and cadre have no bearing on the configurations. [liiona] How many members of 1/6 are incarnate vs. discarnate or cycled off? Any geographic concentrations? What do we “integrate?” What is our theme? [Michael_Entity] Cadre One, Entity Six has approximately 440 incarnated. There is a high concentration in the United States, along both coasts and what is the southern border of the country. There are approximately 262 discarnate, while approximately 372 are cycled off. The theme of Integration revolves around being a “magnet” for fragments seeking a touchstone of sorts. Many from Entity Six act regularly as a pivotal force in many lives. They also draw together groups of people to fulfill Agreements with each other and make connections that otherwise would not have happened. Any Entity Six works within the spectrum from Harmony to Connection; the positive and negative poles. Harmony creates a “solid” world for all fragments involved, while Connection simply joins fragments. Neither are good or bad, but merely the spectrum of the themes explored. We will conclude here. Goodnight.