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OMW - Feb 16, 2013 - Life Quadrant Positions Channel: Troy Tolley [MEntity] Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We can begin a discussion about the subject of Quadrates, or Life Quadrant Positions. [MEntity] Life Quadrant Positions are a form of Configuration. [antinius] But are "not the same concept as social or formal Configurations?" [MEntity] Configurations are a broad term for any group of fragments whose dynamic is contributory. [MEntity] Most Configurations discussed among our students are those with long-term projects as emphasis, and are specifically-formed groupings. [MEntity] However, Life Quadrant Positions are how one tends to behave in terms of contribution in ANY dynamic generated between the self and another. [antinius] I can see the distinction. [MEntity] These are default Positions one will tend toward, and are easily usurped when one steps into more formal Positions as part of more formal, or even social, Configurations. [MEntity] The contributory Positions of Configurations beyond Life Quadrant Positions is relative to the Task, or Project. The contributory Positions of the Life Quadrant Position is relative to one's general sense of strength on one's own. [MEntity] Knowing one's Life Quadrant Position is helpful for not only understanding one's personal sense of strength of contribution, but can also help to explain how others tend to respond to you, expect of you, and receive from you. [MEntity] The Life Quadrant Position is not something with an agenda, Task, or Project, but is simply a part of how fragments relate to one another and find the most basic forms of support in any other fragment. [MEntity] The Life Quadrant Positions are not dependent upon an organized dynamic of 4 people, but are Positions inherent in every fragment so that every fragment can have access to that kind of basic input and contribution from any other fragment, regardless of intimacy, freindships, status, distance, etc. [MEntity] For example, wherever you are, and with whomever you are, you can access Love, Knowledge, Compassion, and Power from any and all other fragments with whom you may interact. [MEntity] The reason every fragment defaults to one of these Positions, and the reason every fragment can access the benefit of these Positions through any other fragments is because they are the most vital and persistent Positions that every fragment most often needs as part of a life. [MEntity] These Positions are Intimate Positions, regardless of with whom they are shared. [MEntity] This is why the kindness of a stranger can mean so much, even when you have never known this person before, and may never see that person again. The intimacy is inherent in the dynamic because of the resonance generated. [MEntity] Understanding the social dynamic of a group, or an informal Configuration, can be helpful for understanding the behaviors of individuals within that group, but regardless of their Position as part of that social Configuration, beneath that is their Life Quadrant Position, which then tends to come into effect when outside of that group. [MEntity] This has often been the reason for why someone seems so different when in a social situation, but then relates to you very differently when one-on-one. [MEntity] Their Life Quadrant Position is what comes to the surface in those more intimate settings. [MEntity] The same goes for how you function. [MEntity] You may gravitate toward the Power Position when in a social group setting, but one-on-one find that your strength is Compassion, or Love. [MEntity] The Life Quadrant Position often comes from one's Axis of Essence, but is not ruled by that correlation. [MEntity] So Servers and Priests will tend toward the Love Position; Artisans and Sages tend toward the Knowledge Position; Warriors and Kings toward the Power Position; and Scholars toward the Compassion/Support Position. [MEntity] Those correlations can be relevant in terms of Essence, but any particular Personality/lifetime can develop its own Quadrant Position that goes beyond the tendency of Essence. [MEntity] However, the default Life Quadrant Position will still tend to be Axis-related, and so the dynamic of one's Essence and Personality in any given lifetime can give clues to one's default Position. [MEntity] For example, if one is a Priest Essence, this would tend toward the default Love Position, but if the Personality has a great number of Overleaves and influences relative to the Action Axis, then he or she may have a tendency toward the Power Position. [MEntity] We will suggest a moment now for calculating this for yourself. We will offer the correlations here, while you add up the influences. [MEntity] Using the link below, look for your Essence, Role, Casting, Overleaves, Primary Centering, Soul Age, and Level, and determine how much Inspiration, Expression, Action, and Assimilation are in your dynamic: [MEntity] http://goo.gl/3wHMY [MEntity] Use the "value" line for Level. [MEntity] LOVE = INSPIRATION; KNOWLEDGE = EXPRESSION; POWER = ACTION; SUPPORT/COMPASSION = ASSIMILATION [Janet] I'm both Artisan and heavy on the expression axis. So Knowledge for me. [MEntity] WORKSHOP MOMENT [Maureen] So far I have a real mix Michael [GeraldineB] I think I use most of the positions, but I'm definitely dominant on the knowledge one -- followed by compassion, then maybe power, then maybe love [Maureen] I'm Expression/Action, then Inspiration, then Assimilation. So Knowledge/Power, Love, Compassion (based on the chart) [MEntity] What you want to do, if you choose to grasp the nature of your default Position, is to look for that Primary Quadrant Position. There is always Secondary Position, but rarely a Tertiary or Quaternary backup. [MEntity] The Positions describe qualities that every person can call upon, but we are not describing qualities of interest, we are discussing default contributions of strength that affect others. [GeraldineB] Then, for me it's ALWAYS Expression/Knowledge [antinius] The numbers say Expression/Knowledge for me, but intuitively I feel more like Compassion/Assimilation [MEntity] Once you have determined your Primary Quadrant Position based on the math of your personal dynamics, you may then see from that same math what your Secondary Quadrant Position may be. [MEntity] The Secondary only tends to come into effect upon expectation and demand by another fragment. [Maureen] I may be Power as my Primary then and Knowledge as my Secondary (based on specualtion and the chart) -- but I'm not sure [MEntity] For example, your Primary may be Knowledge, but someone is desperate for Love, so you offer Inspiration "in a pinch." [Janet] That helps Michael. So my secondary is probably Love. I have the second highest number of over leaves on the inspiration axis. [MEntity] The Secondary can come up, as well, when you are alongside another with the same Primary, and one of you is enough of that Primary for the receiving fragment, so you can shift to your Secondary to help complement the dynamic. [Maureen] I feel that do whatever is required in a group -- I watch for what's needed. [MEntity] If the math of your Overleaves and Essence do not reveal a Primary and Secondary Position to which you resonate, then this tends to be the case for one or both of these scenarios: [MEntity] Inaccurate channeling or assessment of Essence and Personality dynamics, and/or Imprinting. [MEntity] If your nature is to be more inspiring, but you were always in a position that demanded of you to be action/power, then the Personality will stick with what it has learned, rather than default to its own dynamics. [MEntity] Regardless of how one may naturally default, this can be completely overridden over time. [MEntity] So much so that it feels almost as if it is natural to you. [MEntity] This is not a good or bad thing, but a result of choices made, consciously or subconsciously, that helped shape your sense of contributory strengths. [MEntity] Whatever your Primary may calculate out to be, and regardless of your Secondary, you would want to consider to which of the Positions you feel you most relate and identify. [MEntity] If there is a discrepancy, then it is an opportunity for you to determine if there is an underlying strength that is more natural to you that you may have dismissed, and can learn to own again, or you can wholly embrace your chosen Position over your inherent Position, and know that it is your choice. [MEntity] We will share some key elements of each Position to help in your understanding and assessment: [MEntity] LOVE - Inspiration - tends to wish to reflect, represent, and encourage the most possibility and potential in another person; tends to like to initiate; tends to start many things, but needs the details to be carried out by other Positions; tends to feel obligated to care when others will not; tends to allow room for difficult people, even to their own detriment; [MEntity] KNOWLEDGE - Expression - tends to wish to be exemplary in what has been learned; tends to see the bigger picture and patterns of the life; feels strongly about giving form to ideas and ideals, and not leave them as mere pondering; tends toward easier time making decisions; tends to find the truth not threatening; [MEntity] POWER - Action - tends toward tangible results, plans of action, and sustained motivation; tends to have access to resources that allow for implementing plans; tends to be resourceful and unwavering; tends not to be daunted by what needs to be done; [MEntity] COMPASSION/SUPPORT - Assimilation - tends toward listening and observing; tends to easily see obstacles and challenges that need to be addressed; tends toward allowing room for struggles, but not at the expense of intentions; tends toward empathy in a way that allows for true comprehension and understanding; tends not to be afraid of being wrong or making mistakes. [MEntity] As you can see, each of these are a part of each of you, but one of these is how you best contribute to others. [MEntity] Based on these limited descriptions, where are each of you in terms of your calculated default vs your sense of preference? [Maureen] I'm still struggling Michael [MEntity] What do your calculations reveal, Maureen? [GeraldineB] I'm definitely on target for Knowledge as my primary position and compassion/assimilation for secondary [Maureen] I feel my strength is Love but I gravitate towards Knowledge [GeraldineB] do you use knowledge to "perfect" Love? [Maureen] yes -- I think I do [GeraldineB] Then Love is probably your strength as you work to shore it up [antinius] Three 5's, three 4's (plus a 3 and a 2), so Knowledge and Compassion; a know-it-all Sage with a soft spot. I like to share knowledge, but some of my most intense interactions seem to be more about Compassion. [Maureen] Love can be boring -- LOL [GeraldineB] LOL [antinius] LOL, yes Jesus [Maureen] Hey -- i'm not that far along ...yet [Maureen] [antinius] We're all on the path. [GeraldineB] c'mon, Maureen . . .you're a fricken Old 7 Priest -- of course it's "love" [Maureen] but my OLs say it differently [MEntity] Do you find your math reveals your strength as Power, Maureen? [Maureen] Power and Knowledge are tied -- at 3 each [Maureen] Inspiration is 2 [Maureen] or Love [antinius] I get Power and Knowledge from you sitting at a computer in LA, Maureen. ; ) [Maureen] ...and I feel that I play all the positions that Michael mentioned [Maureen] This is frickin hard! LOL [MEntity] We see your math as being 2 Inspiration, 3 Action, 2 Expression, and 1 Assimillation. [Maureen] so I suck at math now! [Maureen] LOL [Maureen] I know what I did -- I included my Mercury Bodytype (that gave me an extra Expression) [Maureen] So yes then -- it would be Power (at 3) Michael [antinius] Power doesn't follow the instructions! [Maureen] it doesn't look like it! [Maureen] The description of the Knowledge position reads as my Life Task -- this isn't easy to figure out! [MEntity] We think we have you, Maureen, as: ROLE and CENTER = Inspiration; CASTING, LEVEL, and ATTITUDE = Action; AGE and GOAL = Expression; MODE = Assimilation [Maureen] Yes Michael -- so Power is my natural position then? [MEntity] If you are having trouble discerning your Life Quadrant Position, you are comparing too many contexts of behavior. Your pursuit of the Life Task is a personal pursuit, and not a general contributory scenario. [Maureen] I'm obviously in the negative pole of my Attitude! (Supposition) [MEntity] However, in your case Maureen, however much you relate to all of the Positions, you may be able to safely say that your default Life Quadrant Position is strongly motivated by GETTING THINGS DONE, effecting tangible results, a constant movement, activity, and calibration for making things happen, not only for yourself, but how those things for yourself affect others. [MEntity] You cannot simply sit by and watch. [Maureen] That sounds spot on Michael -- as tiring as that can be [Maureen] ...at times [MEntity] We say that affectionately, not as a fact. Of course you can sit and watch, but it is not in your nature to do so. Even when you choose not to affect a change, it stays with you as somehow your responsibility to do so. [Maureen] yes it does [Maureen] Thanks Michael (with affection) [MEntity] If it is valid that your Life Quadrant Position is naturally POWER, then you may find yourself at the hub of a great deal of responsibility, obligation, and demands, even if not explicitly asked of you. [MEntity] And we do not mean this in the sense that one may have duties for a job, but as a part of the basic dynamic of relationships. [Maureen] Yes - I understand [antinius] Michael, would you agree that my default is Knowledge and my secondary is Compassion? [antinius] Or do I have them reversed? [MEntity] Rod, yes, we see your assessment as valid. [antinius] Knowledge, then Compassion? Any further insights on that? [MEntity] Rod, when we share the next set of information in a moment about these Positions, it may shed further insight. [antinius] OK thanks. [Janet] I believe for my default one-on-one position knowledge is probably correct and I concur with love as the secondary. But the Power position resonates strongly -- perhaps that is more the position I gravitate to in groups and 'situations'? [MEntity] Our next set of information may help understand this. We will continue, then. ****** [MEntity] Working with what you have calculated as your Primary Life Quadrant Position, consider what we have to share next, and then bring in the different positions to which you resonate or may feel is more accurate than your calculated position, if that is the case for you. [MEntity] What we share now is a consideration for "taking responsibility" for your Life Quadrant Position. [MEntity] In other words, regardless of any other Position to which you resonate, consider that your Life Quadrant Position is in effect and has an effect, with or without your realizing it. That is because Life Quadrant Positions are in effect whether consciously or not. [MEntity] So if one's Position is Knowledge, regardless of how dismissed that strength is, Knowledge Position will tend to find it expected of him or her to "know better," to have insight, to give advice, to figure things out, to be examples, to be available with wisdom or information. [MEntity] The Knowledge Position will also tend to think that others cannot provide the same kind of insight and knowledge about life that is not already known by the Knowledge Position. [MEntity] Power can tend to be drawn into positions of resource, availability, and presence even as they try to focus on their own work. [MEntity] Power can tend to develop a resentment for the demand and expecation on their energy, if this is not managed well. [MEntity] Love can tend to be drawn into positions of intimacy with complete strangers that often requires awkward and uncomfortable establishing of boundaries, and often expected to be the source of inspiration in others' lives. [MEntity] Compassion can tend to be expected only to listen, but not to contribute. And often to listen to the same things, over and over. Compassion is often "just supposed to be there," but not necessarily do anything. [MEntity] All of the things we described above are parts of the "job" of each Position, and those expectations and demands on the Position do not go away. One can only learn to own his or her Position in more effective ways. And the way to do this is to become more conscious of that Position as it plays out in your life, and then to own it, to be responsible for it, and to let it be a strength, not a burden. [MEntity] You may not like that you are a Power Position, but you are good at it, and when managed as a strength, it becomes free from the weight of demand and expectation. [MEntity] You may not like that you are in a Knowledge Position, but you are good at it, and your ideas, examples, and expression matter to those around you so much so that you are often used as a model for many behaviors in others. [MEntity] You may not like that you are in a Love Position, but you know how to bring out the best potential in yourself and others, and when you dismiss this impact, you can squash potential, both in yourself and others. [MEntity] Taking responsibility for your Life Quadrant Position is profoundly empowering, not only as you embrace the strength as it is experienced by others, but because it frees you to be more of who you actually are, and by contributing more from how you CAN, instead of how you think or wish you can. [MEntity] Think of your Positions in these highly-simplified terms: [MEntity] I AM LOVE - I can help you get started [MEntity] I AM KNOWLEDGE - I can offer you a map [MEntity] I AM POWER - I can help you get there [MEntity] I AM COMPASSION - I can ride with you [MEntity] In those simplistic terms, how do each of you find your calculated Positions resonate? [Janet] I think Power resonates with me far more than Love, although Knowledge is almost certainly my primary [MEntity] Janet, which is your calculated Primary? [Janet] Knowledge. [Maureen] well I am a "super" coach -- so yes it is resonating now Michael [antinius] I think I got it right--Knowledge, with Compassion "in a pinch" [GeraldineB] I was truly laughing at "I can offer you a map" -- that is so me (and it's the way I practice the pinched secondary, compassion) [antinius] I LOL'd at the map comment too! [Maureen] I am noticing Michael, that these positions don't line up with the Support Circle positions (by title). [MEntity] NOTE: if one were calculating and found a tie among the results, we would suggest doubling the count for Essence, first, and if this were not to help, then double the Attitude. If those do not work, then you might resort to simple self-assessment of which tends to be the Primary. [MEntity] In what way do you mean, Maureen? [Maureen] well everyone is their own Power position [Maureen] and Compassion in a Support Circle is much more "outspoken" -- the Quadrate Compassion position reminds me of the Love Position in the Support Circle [antinius] Michael, is there also a “You may not like that you are in a Compassion Position” statement? [Maureen] for example... [MEntity] Yes, since Life Quadrant Positions are part of a vast network dynamic among fragments, they are only contributory, and not central to any Configuration. [MEntity] Maureen, the Compassion Position can be outspoken, but only after listening, regardless of what Configuration. In terms of Life Quadrant Position, the scenario for being in the position to listen is far more often a part of the life than one who only has that Position as part of a Configuration with a task. [MEntity] Rod, we can say: You may not like that you are in a Compassion Position, but your capacity to care matters, makes a difference, for both you and the receiver, even if it inconveniences you for the moment. Caring does not mean having to dimiss your own needs, but dismissing the needs of others does not serve your own, either. [MEntity] We will open the floor for a round of questions regarding this subject before we close, if there are any questions. [GeraldineB] Does the design of Personality include weighing the factors for OLs based on what the Quadrate will be like? [MEntity] Geraldine, Configuration Positions outside of Life Quadrant Positions are relative to the project or task, and while one's position within those Configurations can be served by the strengths of a Life Quadrant Position, they are not dependent upon them. [MEntity] Someone may have a Life Quadrant Position of Love, but shine in a Position of Power for one Configuration, and as Knowledge in another, and fall into the Eccentric Position when at a party. [MEntity] The Positions of Configurations are defined and fulfilled more by their relative position in that group, rather than by the inclinations of a Personality and Essence. Consider the difference between how one may apply oneself in the work place versus how one may behave at home. [Maureen] So how would Power Position in a Quadrate fit into the Support Group -- as the individual takes up that position? [MEntity] Maureen, if one has a Life Quadrant Position of Power, and is the Power Position in a Quadrate Configuration, then one would simply be playing a Power Position in a Configuration who happens to also have a Life Quadrant Position of Power, and who is always at the center of her own Support Circle. [MEntity] Though the same term is used to describe these Positions among different groups, there is no conflict or confusion among them as they are played out. [Maureen] So I wouldn't necessarily play an actual position in someone's Support Circle -- but I would help them to actualize their own position on Power -- like Self-Empowerment? [MEntity] If it helps, think of the Power Position within the Support Circle as the EMPOWERED Position, while the Power Position in other contexts is the EMPOWERING Position. [Maureen] Yes -- Thank you! [MEntity] Your Life Quadrant Position has little relevance to what Position you may play in someone else's Support Circle. [Maureen] I can see that now -- Thanks [MEntity] We will conclude here for today, then. Each of you can take your time to consider how you play your Life Quadrant Position in life, and consider how others may randomly play them in your own life. These positions are more obvious when interacting with those not in your personal circle, but as you are a general participant in life. [MEntity] However, when you gather in groups of 4 or fewer, you may also see your Life Quadrant Position come to light, and those of others.
July 1, 2007 Troy Tolley, Channel MICHAEL SPEAKS Online [Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. As Troy has already received the Energy Report for our students, we will immediately open the floor to questions from you. You may begin. [Pathfinder] I wanted to follow up on the Nile incarnations. One of the therapies I’ve studied deeply is called Shen and I feel it comes from that same time frame in Egypt. In this life, there have been strifes with “founder” Richard Pavek and teachers veering off into Kairos etc, and it feels as if we are working through some leftovers from the Egypt and later times. Can you tell us more of this? [Michael Entity] In your particular case there is a nonet Configuration at work on a larger task of refining a method of healing. The stage in which your Configuration is presently is within the Corruption phase, bringing with it a bit of challenge and rift, but it is merely a part of the very process of refinement. This Configuration began in Egypt during the time you refer to as the “Nile incarnations.” The Corruption phase always feels threatening to those involved with a evolutionary process, but if the focus is held, the benefit of this so-called corruption will find clarity. It is true that what you call “Shen” is related to origins during the same lifetimes that created your Configuration. [liiona24] Hello Michael, I don’t ever remember reading anything about how many grand cycles you, the Michael Entity, have had. (Or would it be a range of number of grand cycles of fragments that are part of your entity?) Also if there is a maximum number of grand cycles we can go through? If this has been answered somewhere I apologize for the repeat question. I have not ever run across it. [Michael Entity] The average Grand Cycle among the members of our Entity are 13. Each fragment has its own number of Grand Cycles. There is no need to apologize for asking a question that may have been asked of is previously. We do not lose our ability to answer when repeat questions are asked from among our students, and much of what we teach IS repeated repeatedly. There is no maximum Grand Cycle that a fragment can have experienced, though the greatest number we know of is 102. It should be noted that it would be more accurate to refer to the consciousness involved in experiencing a Grand Cycle as being a SPARK, rather than a fragment. [Upst8] Sometime ago, there was mention of the USA running a parallel course with the ancient Roman Roman civilization. Is the USA still on this course, and if so, where are we in the timeline with the Roman time era? (Been watching the HBO series of Rome, with interest) [Michael Entity] Yes, this parallel course is still in effect and details of this were shared in a fairly recent chat with our students. Troy will include those details in the final copy of this transcript. [Upst8] oh, must have missed that one, thank you [Michael Entity] We can easily repeat, as mentioned in our previous response to Marion, the response here, however: We will allow for the final transcript to have the elaboration, but we see the timeline as being “parallel” to the final days of disastrous invasion choices. INCLUDED EXCERPT from Michael Speaks 2007-02-05: We would state that you are still on parallel with this time period, though moving beyond into its finale with parallels to the disastrous invasion choices. These “parallels” are not literal, but global conscious experiences that become patterns among those participating. This allows for certain scenarios to be played out “again,” but with a rearrangement of characters/fragments playing roles within those similar scenarios. In other words, there will be “other Abraham Lincolns,” other “Hitlers,” etc. But these are not prescribed or predestined; they are created by collective choices. There are layers of these parallels to consider, as well, since there are layers of collective un/consciousness. For instance, your world is also paralleling the progression of Atlantis. Much of these repetitive cycles are in place for your species as a result of the burning of the Alexandrian libraries, wherein all collected knowledge that had been gained as a species (which far exceeds what is shared among your species now) was lost; reset. The “repeating of history” helps to regain that knowledge as a species, much in the same way that a child who is an Old Soul must still “re-grow up” in each lifetime as a means to regain his potential consciousness. END EXCERPT [rvolkman] Hi Michael and Troy – Ron here – I’m a Warrior but I have a discarnate Scholar ET. Sometimes it feels like there is a “voice” inside that continually wants to describe how “things work”. Sometimes this is handy, but other times it is tedious. Can a discarnate ET have direct influence on us to the point where they may actually seem to speak through us or appear to be a part of our physical personality? [Michael Entity] The only way any other fragment can have such an influence upon you is through your choice to have it be so. Often this influence is invited because of the many benefits, but it does often come with unexpected annoyances and distractions, as well. Imagine the joy of falling in love and truly inviting that person to share your life and your space, but eventually finding a great deal of differences that encourage compromise, tolerance, or acceptance. The same could be said of fragments sharing the same space, time, and energy for conscious interaction. In your case, yes, it is the influence of the Scholar, as there have been lives in the past when your Essence’s Personality noted how much more insight could be had if there was a greater understanding of the dynamics of things observed. This is your first life experimenting with the access to your Scholar Essence Twin for this very purpose. The Scholar, not being physical at this time, is all-too-eager to offer those insights as this Essence literally loves the physical plane and its workings, mysteries. [Cyprus] This is sort of a personal question, but I am sure I am not the only on that this happens to, so I thought it could benefit others as well. I have been feeling very overwhelmed lately. I feel as if I am either on high or completely off. I am much more comfortable in a sort of middle area, I can't find any balance. No matter what I seem to do I can't seem to get there. Please advise. [Michael Entity] The Energy Report will most likely address this issue as your month of July moves into the exploration of the ATTITUDE and the Attitude this year is what we have described as REALIST. For those who are not familiar with the energy of Realism, which you are not, then this energy can feel overwhelming and even a bit painful. In addition to this, the examination over the month of July appears to us to be a deep examination of SELF and what is true about you at this point in your life. This, in itself, can be painful, as what we will call “stuff” comes to the surface for examination that is not particularly enjoyable. Without understanding that this wave of energy is moving through, especially for one who resist Realism, the energy can feel like a constant electrical current that simply will not stop. When there are breaks in the flow, then the body feels inclined to withdraw into sleep as respite before the next current begins. Understanding that this energy is simply available for WHEN YOU WISH TO USE IT, then you can find appropriate ways to ground what is not used. In your case, the use of the energy could best be used to address your anxiety over your changes in work and geographic locations/commute. You really do not like changes of this sort, so it would do you well to grasp that your participation in the change is one of CHOICE, not imposition, and that it is okay. When you wish not to have the energy current affecting you, a shower can help dissipate it, but you also have the ability to simply use your consciousness to state that “this is not my energy,” and give it a few moments to fall back to the earth. We will also say that part of the “stuff” that will come up for you, and part of the energy current that runs through you now, is related to the extended emotional experience during Troy's battle with his illness and your inability to be within his presence. You have not fully “forgiven” yourself for this (which is not a necessary act), but you are carrying the jumble of energy until you have contact with Troy. This will do no good for either of you, so it is Good Work to dissipate it as you can. [Pathfinder] I want to follow up on the earlier “Shen” question – what is a nonet Configuration? Are we a specific number? with different roles/tasks? spread across the globe? about to come together in one place? [Michael Entity] A Nonet is a Configuration of NINE. A Configuration consists of various Roles and while each fragment remains with his or her own Life Task, it usually dovetails in some way with the Task of the Configuration. It is not required that any of the fragments within a Configuration have contact, or even know each other within the lifetime. Your Configuration is not about to gather and is spread fairly globally. Troy will include an excerpt in the final transcript describing in further detail the workings of a Configuration. [See Michael Speaks -- Configurations for the referenced session.] [butterfly syndicate] Thanks! Ok, I was wondering whether Europe or the EU as a body are likely to remain democratic considering the laws that have been passed recently in GB for instance and Germany. Are we following the US in their “Roman parallel” path? [Michael Entity] Ironically, the European countries are moving more and more toward the more restrictive aspects of what the U.S. has implemented for so long, while the U.S. is heading for a collapse of this very system that simply will not work any longer in a Mature Soul world. As the U.S. regains its footing in the world as a leader, it will only be done through a shift completely from Young Soul values into Mature Soul reality. However, many European countries are now attracting a massive wave of Young and Baby Souls who wish to “get away from” the movement of the Mature Soul. Mature and Older souls are migrating to the United States as the collapse is very enticing to the Mature drama, as well as exciting prospect of rebuilding a nation with more progressive values that actually work. European countries are currently finding politicians and movements taking a direction that is to cater to the influx of Younger and Baby Souls coming over the next 50 years. Although Europe has been fairly conservative anyway, the conservative stance was more out of an interest in preserving the freedoms of various peoples, but the conservatism that is moving in now will be more about the imposition of values defined by specific groups. We will conclude our interaction. We will say goodnight here: Goodnight.
[Excerpt from Michael Speaks: Configurations] [LisaC] what do the roles listed have to do with the position they were paired with? Like why was server listed as love position? [M_Entity] LOVE is that which initiates and is part of EVERYTHING. Love, in terms of the Configurations and the resonance to the Server, is in the fact that the Server Essence is primary to this Universe. The Server Essence inspires on a most basic and attainable level, as does Love. This resonance DOES NOT, however, mean that only certain Roles will gravitate to the Positions. We merely showed the archetypal correlations so as to enhance your understanding of the Positions. LOVE knows what everyone needs, just as a Server does. A LOVE Position can be inspiring and enthusiastic, or obnoxious and manipulative, as a Server can be. We realize some of the correlations may appear counter-intuitive, but we remind you that correlations must be considered in context. For instance, we do not suggest making this sequence parallel to the Chakra System. Though it may very well “work,” it is not a shared context. We believe the most confusing correlations, besides the Server/Love, may be the Scholar/Support, and Artisan/Knowledge. We find the resonance particular to the Configurations because Artisans are ironically highly structured Essences and can refine a great amount of energy and information quite swiftly. A Scholar does not do so. A Scholar is far more interested in indulging in the information, for the sake of the information, than to refine it. As far as the Scholar/Support, we find the resonance there to be in that the energy of the Scholar does not get “invested” in any one angle, and can therefore remain objective, supportive, and cohesive to a group. This does not mean the Support Position does not contribute knowledge, but that it is not invested in any outcome.
[Excerpt from TT: 2002-02-21] Configurations [M_Entity] We are here. One Moment. We understand the topic as being Configurations. The topic of Configurations is avoided by most of our students and channels for a couple of reasons in general: Understanding Configurations depends on your understanding of the very basics of our system; and as the complexities of each Configuration grows, the contexts for understanding each position changes a bit. This can be confusing to most since many want the differing systems to be more consistent. We will define “Configuration” as any number of Fragments beyond ONE who act together with a common goal. There are FORMAL Configurations and INFORMAL Configurations. FORMAL Configurations are based in Essence “plans” and can have a goal that does not get accomplished for many lifetimes. INFORMAL Configurations occur in any number of situations in which you are in any kind of group. These could easily be called WORKING CONFIGURATIONS and SOCIAL CONFIGURATIONS, respectively. Understanding a Working Configuration can shed light on your life as you grow through your 4th Internal Monad and begin your own personal Life Task. If you are part of a Working Configuration (which most are), you will then find the insight leading you closer to maintaining True Personality and connection to Essence. Understanding Social Configurations can shed light on your life as you grow as a Personality, at any physical age or soul age, and allow you to understand why certain dynamics occur in certain groupings. As we share with you the dynamics of each Configuration, remember that the information applies to BOTH Working and Social groups, unless otherwise indicated. The only difference is this: In Working Configurations, the Position you play within your group DOES NOT ALTER. In Social Configurations, your Position will alter as necessary. For those of you who will try to link the Configurations to what we call a Support Group, we suggest you not jump ahead before the completion of the information. Support Groups (a group of 12 fragments who enrich and empower your life) are of a different context to a small degree and we will clarify as time permits. First, we will share with you the correlations basic to understanding Configurations. This will be familiar to some of you. The information will come as follows: NUMBER – ROLE – Configuration Position 1 Server – Love 2 Artisan – Knowledge 3 Warrior – Power 4 Scholar – Support 5 Sage – Revolutionary/Eccentric 6 Priest – Integrator 7 King – Leader/Observer 8 Server – Pivot 9 Artisan – Intuitive 10 Warrior – Discipline 11 Sage – Healer 12 Priest – Enlightener 13 King – Muse A Configuration beyond this begins to become ever more meaningless in terms of a given lifetime, though if any student were interested, the numbers do continue. There is a mathematical meaning behind this sequence. There is also meaning as to why, in the numbers beyond 7, though the Roles repeat there is no Scholar listed. This is because when the Configuration grows to the number 13, Position 4 moves from being considered SUPPORT, to being SUPPORTED and is the pivotal focus among the 12 other Positions. We will elaborate on that as time permits, but for now we will begin with the more evident and useful Configurations you may find yourself as part of in daily life. The smallest Configuration is a TRIAD. Though we listed the correlations above, in the case of a Triad, the terms above DO NOT APPLY. When 3 people are involved, there are the very basic Positions of POSITIVE – NEGATIVE – NEUTRAL. A group of 3 will ALWAYS be a catalyst for transformation and progression through some kind of Karma, internally or externally. 3, and by extension Karma, is the very basic Configuration that allows this Universe and an Essence to grow. In groups of 3, there will usually be “issues” raised and if the Configuration is serious and committed, each new challenge will take each Fragment forward. We believe the inherent tension found in a group of 3 is where the phrase, “3 is a crowd” comes from. Based on limited time, we will quickly cover each Configuration, and then take your questions. We note here that there are NO WORKING CONFIGURATIONS of 3. The next Configuration is a Quadrate. In a Quadrate, the Common Goal is usually directly linked to each Fragment’s own Life Task. Beyond the Quadrate, into higher numbered Configurations, the Life Task is not necessarily linked to the group goal. We say this in reference to Working Configuration ONLY; in a Social Configuration, no personal Life Tasks are necessarily relevant. As we share with you the differing Configurations, we note that EVEN-numbered Configurations up to 10 MUST have all Positions being filled by Physically-incarnate Fragments. ODD-numbered Configurations can tend to have the final, odd-numbered Position filled by non-physical Fragments acting as guides, or the Position may be filled with a Concept/Ideal representing that Position. Even the Configuration of 3 may have only two Physical participants, while the “issue” is the “third position.” In most cases, however, ALL Fragments tend to be extant, except in the highly unstable group of 5. Beyond the Configuration of 10, no more “rules” apply except that the BASIC QUADRATE (4) is incarnated. QUADRATE In a group of 4 in either Social or Working Configurations, each will fall into one of the four basic positions inherent to that Configuration: LOVE, KNOWLEDGE, POWER, and SUPPORT. Something unique to the Positions defined in a Quadrate is that EVERY INDIVIDUAL EXTANT falls into one of these basic 4 Social Positions as a means to interact in groups with no specific goal, such as a party, or night out, or reunion, etc. No matter the size of the group, most Social groups with no goal will reduce themselves to smaller interacting groups of 4, and each Fragment interacting will take on one of these 4 Positions, however insignificantly or meaningfully. A Quadrate with a goal may have been behind organizing the event, but subsequent interaction within the event will simply be of basic socializing. We would call this additional level of Configuration with no goal, a “CASUAL Configuration”. LOVE Position: This Position is the one who brings the initiation of ideas to the group. They are usually very inspiring and naturally seem to be able to get everyone “psyched up” about something to do. They do not, however, have the ability to actually make the ideas happen. In fact, it is not their “job” at all. In a group of 4, the person who inspires and generates the ideas might be best left to simply doing that. In a Social situation, this person is usually the one who initiates the gathering or comes up with the suggestions for what to do, once gathered. In a basic social situation, this is usually the most humorous, entertaining person in the group; the “social butterfly” who moves from group to group, one conversation to the next, bringing a light air to any gathering. KNOWLEDGE is the person who refines the ideas generated by LOVE. In a basic social situation, a Knowledge person will usually root themselves into a conversation, debate, or discussion with one or two people and remain there for a great deal of the event. They can sometimes become irritated by the whimsical, flittering of Love throughout the groups if this distracts from the more “serious discussions” Knowledge is having. POWER is the one who is in the position to actually make the ideas of Love, refined by Knowledge, happen. In a basic social situation, this person can express in any number of ways, but they are easily the Fragment who ultimately controls the mood and focus of the group/s. They can end the fun as easily as they can sustain it. They can shift the direction as easily as they maintain it. SUPPORT is the mediator and cohesiveness that keeps the group stable. In a basic social situation, this person will gravitate toward any position of the most use. In most cases, they will at least pair themselves with one other person. The Support person is the one who usually gets “stuck” tolerating, or listening to, any of the other Positions as they may express themselves inappropriately or tediously; such as a Knowledge wielding lengthy lectures on topics few are interested in; or the Love Position as they turn to the use obnoxiousness as a means to generate interaction; or Power as they may sit and brood for not getting what they want. Support will either find himself or herself in that situation or in the broader position of making sure everyone is having a good time and happy and taken care of. A Quadrate is the most popular and most stable of all Configurations. It is usually very successful in all endeavors, either as Social or Working Configurations. The Casual Configuration is the root of all basic, stable interactions among groups of Sentience. Incidentally, many successful sitcoms or dramas are rooted primarily in a Quadrate interacting together. Using “I Love Lucy” as the example, LUCY is the LOVE Position, Ricky is the POWER Position, Fred is the SUPPORT Position, and Ethel is the KNOWLEDGE Position. These Positions rotate occasionally, but we are speaking of the characters’ interactions as a theme. In general, Love and Power tend to pair up, while Support and Knowledge do so, as experiences are generated and goals undertaken. Love and Knowledge do not necessarily “pair up”, but they eventually do tend to lead the group, even if indirectly. Power and Support tend to remain “quieter”, though they are the Fragments who usually find each experience’s conclusion and resolution. In the example of “Lucy”, though “Ethel” and “Lucy” are always leading the group into new adventures, “Ricky” and “Fred” resolve them. When participants in a Quadrate are not available, Love/Power take on either or both Positions, while Knowledge/Support does the same. Though Knowledge could take on Power, or vice versa, and Love/Support can also be exchanged, it is not as comfortable. PENTAGON When a FIFTH Position is added to a Quadrate, it then becomes a Pentangle, or Pentagon. The new Position is called a REVOLUTIONARY. In groups of 5, there will always be one person who challenges the very stability of the focus. In Working Configurations, a Pentagon is either a formidable force, or a flailing disaster. In Social situations of 5, there will always be the fifth person, the Revolutionary, who will complain, fall asleep, try to redirect the group, or finally they will simply leave the group. In a successful Working Configuration of 5, the 5th Position is usually filled with a CONCEPT instead of a Person. The Beatles are an example of both a Concept as Revolution, and a Person. The Configuration when it held a 5th person collapsed in stability, but when the Position turned to a Concept, the group excelled in tremendously successful ways. While a Quadrate has a goal of manifesting or accomplishing something, a Pentagon, if seriously undertaken, is out for transforming things on great levels. SEXTET The next Configuration is a SEXTET, adding the Position of the Integrator. The Integrator becomes the strength and higher inspiration for longer-term sustenance of that Configuration. Usually, because of the inherent instability of a Pentagon, at some point, it will either shift to a Quadrate, or bring in an Integrator. A Sextet, then, is the next most popular and successful Working Configuration. The highly successful series called “FRIENDS” is a good example. This example of a Working Configuration of the characters is as follows: LOVE: Rachel KNOWLEDGE: Ross POWER: Monica SUPPORT: Chandler Revolutionary: Joey Integrator: Phoebe SEPTET The final Configuration we will comment on tonight will be the SEPTET, adding the Position of LEADER/Observer. A Septet’s Goal is usually one that is based in SEARCH and DISCOVERY. Most teams of 7 are based in a common goal of seeking, exploring, discovering. Many Septets are involved in medicine, science, and metaphysics, as you may have assumed. The highly successful series of Star Trek is based primarily in Septets. The LEADER/Observer watches over all of the participant’s contributions and makes the most difficult and larger-themed decisions as to any new directions or steps. They provide the clearer template for where the growth and direction of the group will go. This topic is a large topic, we realize, and we do note the limited time available to you. Using the list we shared at the beginning of the chat, you can extrapolate from it and determine varying meanings of Positions people may take in groups under 13. In terms of Working Configurations, the dynamics may or may not be as obvious. We will speak on the 6 other Configurations of meaning in another session. We will take your questions now, if there are any. Q & A [Cathy] Regarding Triads, my husband Brian and I have a friend living with us for an extended period of time while she is getting her business started. Can you tell me how this fits as a catalyst for transformation and progression through what kind of karma, internally or externally? [M_Entity] The Triad Positions of Positive, Negative, and Neutral will shift among the three of you. In any given challenge, the Positive Position will be the catalyst, such as “invading privacy”. The Negative Position would be the person whose privacy was felt to be invaded. The Neutral Position is the person who either does not care, or will step in to help resolve the tension. In fact, the resolution of an issue with a Triad will be in that EACH Person experiences EACH Position before progress is made. For example, the Positive who invaded privacy may feel bad, shifting to a constricted Negative Position. The original Negative Position whose privacy was invaded may reach out, trying to “get over it,” assuming the friendship is more important, moving to the Positive. The Neutral may see both sides, experiencing Positive and Negative, until resolution. As you watch the dynamics among the three of you, being aware of these shifting Positions, even in moments of fun, should prove enlightening. [LisaC] what do the roles listed have to do with the position they were paired with? Like why was server listed as love position? [M_Entity] LOVE is that which initiates and is part of EVERYTHING. Love, in terms of the Configurations and the resonance to the Server, is in the fact that the Server Essence is primary to this Universe. The Server Essence inspires on a most basic and attainable level. Resonance DOES NOT, however, mean that only certain Roles will gravitate to the Positions. We merely showed the correlations so as to enhance your understanding of the Positions. LOVE knows what everyone needs, just as a Server does. LOVE can be inspiring and enthusiastic, or obnoxious and manipulative, as a Server can be. We realize some of the correlations may appear counter-intuitive, but we remind you that correlations must be considered in context. For instance, we do not suggest making this sequence parallel to the Chakra System. Though it may very well “work,” it is not a shared context. We believe the most confusing correlations, besides the Server/Love, may be the Scholar/Support, and Artisan/Knowledge. We find the resonance particular to the Configurations because Artisans are ironically highly structured Essences and can refine a great amount of energy and information quite swiftly. A Scholar does not do so. A Scholar is far more interested in indulging in the information, for the sake of the information, than to refine it. As far as the Scholar/Support, we find the resonance there to be in that the energy of the Scholar does not get “invested” in any one angle, and can therefore remain objective, supportive, and cohesive to a group. This does not mean the Support Position does not contribute knowledge, but that it is not invested in any outcome. [cec] How do cadres and entities play out in the configurations? [M_Entity] GROUPS of Cadres (12) are of a different context. GROUPS of Entities (a Cadre) are all Septets. In other words, there is a 1 – LOVE/Server Entity; a 2 – KNOWLEDGE/Artisan Entity, etc. [MaryBV] In a working configuration you mentioned the work involved the life task. Do the members have the same life tasks or are they similar or complementary to each other? [M_Entity] In a Quadrate, the individual Life Tasks would all complement each other in some way. They may not appear so, but in terms of the larger goal of the Configuration, it is contributing to the same direction. This only applies to a Working Quadrate. In all other Configurations, the Life Task may or may not contribute so directly or complementarily. [nemo-sam] do configurations relate to community jobs? [M_Entity] Yes. “Community Jobs,” if you are referring to the delineation of specific positions of a fragment within an Entity, relate to the higher- numbered Configurations having to do with far larger themes than any individual life may be able to make sense of.