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May 16, 2002 Troy Tolley, Channel You and your attitude [M_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. We understand the topic to be that of Attitudes as they are defined within our teaching. Of course, there are 7 Attitudes, as there are 7 of every other Overleaf in our system. The 7 Attitudes are the Neutral or Assimilative PRAGMATIST, the Inspirational Stoic and Spiritualist, the Expressional Skeptic and Idealist, and the Actional Cynic and Realist. The Attitudes are specifically your personal means to interpret reality. The Attitudes could easily be said to be The 7 Basic Philosophies, as much of what is our more complete system now has been found isolated in various teachings throughout the ages. Each Attitude can easily find a correlation of a philosophy, which can shed a great deal of light on your personal Attitude. The Attitude could be said to be the “pivot” or “hinge” within our Personality System around which all other facets of your Personality move. Because the Attitude is intrinsically linked to your Intellect, the Attitude can “make or break” your sense of peace, trust, wholeness, etc. Whether you are Intellectually Centered or not, you still have an Intellect, and that Intellect works hard to interpret and make sense of reality. So, too, does your Attitude. It will go a long way toward freeing you from the traps of the Attitude and Intellect if you understand that it is not necessarily “the point” to “make sense” of reality, because literally, it is the opposite: your senses MAKE reality. Though we say your Attitude “interprets” reality, it may be more effective to understand that your Attitude “filters” reality. Both are valid descriptions. Though an Attitude is far from an imposition, it CAN be a limitation if you find you are not able to function within your ;particular Attitude's full spectrum of use. It can easily be said that, from the absolute worst struggles, to the most trivial of frustrations, these experiences are directly a reflection of how you are using your Attitude. When your Attitude is in its Negative Pole, regardless of what that may be, you have determined that you have completed your need for input for your basic philosophical stance. When the Negative Pole of the Attitude is in control, reality loses its creativity and flexibility, and instead becomes a tangled mess that must be understood immediately, even if the means to do so have not even come to pass. We can speak generally of Attitudes because the basic experience is quite consistent; it is the HOW of it all that is different among them. For instance, an Idealist in the Negative Pole and a Cynic in the Negative Pole will both share the struggle of trying to understand something within a limitation of input, but the Idealist will “naively” bumble his way through, while the Cynic will use “denigration” to destroy anything outside his comprehension. In the case of the Cynic, we do not mean an attempt to literally destroy, but that the Cynic will actively fight to remove any contradictions from his determined perception. In the case of each Axis of Attitude, you will find when they are in the Negative Pole, the reaction of the Attitude is to eliminate the Positive Pole experiences. When the Stoic is “resigned,” he will use inspiration to lead others into resignation, to validate his own perceptions. The Spiritualist will use inspiration to impose his beliefs on others as strongly as possible, to remove the need for verifying his perceptions. The Skeptic will simply express strong suspicions, riling others into an insecure space of perception, to remove the need for investigation. The Idealist will naively take on lofty goals and intentions, either with or without awareness, setting himself up for failure, so as to remove the experience of coalescence, which is the bringing together of parts to make a whole. The Cynic will actively remove all that contradicts his own determined perception. The Realist will insist that her perceptions are based in fact, even against the strongest of feedback that she is inaccurate, so as to remove her from having to be Objective. In addition, the Pragmatist will continue doing things, thinking about things, expressing things, exactly as they have worked for her to her satisfaction, regardless of the fact that input is dictating that there are more practical ways for the same things. The reason the Negative Pole is so strongly interested in eliminating the Positive Pole experiences is because the Attitude is the “brother or sister” to the Chief Features. We speak of these traits with anthropomorphic descriptions, only for the sake of relating, but we do not wish for you to mistake this means of description as if these parts of you are a separate consciousness. We do not say that they are, nor do we imply that they are. Because of our limitation of time, we will quickly point out what we believe may be the most important concern for your understanding of the Attitudes. Since the Attitude can be your prison or your means to complete freedom, we believe that when you are struggling in any area of your life, the first place to look would be to your Attitude. In understanding your Attitude, you would clearly be able to see that you may be in the Negative Pole, but the fastest and most effective means to move yourself out of it, is simply to choose a different angle of perception. Since the Attitude, while in the Negative Pole, so intently seeks to remove the experience of the Positive Pole of your Attitude, the “trick” is to use the Positive Pole of the Attitude that shares your Axis. If the effort is made, within minutes your life can change; or at least your attitude toward it, which can then lead to changing your life. When the Spiritualist is lost in her Beliefs and continues to find she is blocked from real, fulfilling Verification of her perceptions, it can free her to “slide” to the Positive Pole of Stoicism, which would be Tranquility. When Belief is in control, there is usually a strong need to get others to share in the belief, even if you, yourself have not Verified its place in your life. When the Spiritualist slides to Tranquility, she relaxes and surrenders gently to her perceptions. This then allows her to Verify things for herself, instead of finding others to do it for her. On the other hand, the Stoic may have given up on his life, resigning, which is a passive stance to the life. If he were to slide to Verification, he would be able to find that much of what he has resigned himself to is not even valid anymore as an imposition. We may not be able to go through all of the Attitudes with examples, but we will note that the Pragmatist has the ability to slide to ANY of the other Attitudes as a means to free himself from Dogma. We will now take any questions you may have, so we can respond to you, rather than use your time teaching what may already be available in print. QUESTIONS [MDFSage_Val] Can you describe a “spectrum of use” for an Idealist, or is this more an individual fragment thing/issue? [M_Entity] An Idealist lives within the spectrum of being “cursed” and “blessed” with the constant want for improvement. The Idealist has such a wider vision of most things that he can see patterns where others cannot. Within those patterns, he can also see how they can be improved, manipulated, or altered for the better. The struggle then comes from the Idealist being able to see the big picture, but not putting the effort into defining the STEPS it will take to get there. Therein lies the spectrum from Naivety to Coalescence. An Idealist can see that he has potential to run a marathon, but instead of taking the steps to prepare, he simply, naively runs in the marathon, until he collapses from the pain he could have avoided. [Suzanne] Michael, How would be best for an idealist & a spiritualist to relate to each other, one expresses while the other inspires? [M_Entity] The Spiritualist will always interpret relationships in terms of how inspiring they are, while the Idealist will interpret the relationships in terms of how much improvement is coming from them. [Suzanne] Rather interesting, as it can compliment. [M_Entity] If the Spiritualist feels her relationships are not inspiring, or that she is not inspiring, she will lose interest. The Idealist must feel as if the relationships are somehow improving each other, or he will feel they are not worth it. [Suzanne] Thank you, I understand better now [M_Entity] We are using pronouns randomly, for the sake of grammar. We are not intending anything to be specifically assigned to a gender. [Suzanne] Understood that too, thanks. [M_Entity] The Spiritualist could be said to be “cursed” and “blessed” with the philosophy that everything has potential. Within that spectrum, you will find the experiences ranging from blind faith or belief to valid verification of those potentials. We will point out one last point for your consideration before concluding tonight. When you are in the Negative Pole of your Attitude, you may find you are behaving more and more like the Attitude sharing your Axis, or attracting, or attracted to, those who share your Axis. This is your inherent move toward balance in perception and even if this is done without awareness, it manages, at least, to continue to give the option of choosing how you interpret your reality. So, an Idealist may tend to be very critical and skeptical as a means to balance his Idealism; the Spiritualist may find she is becoming less and less emotional and more passive as she seeks balance for her Beliefs. We shared as much as we could within your time allotted. We have much more to say about this topic, of course. We will conclude here. Good Night to all of you.
Ask Michael September 6, 2015 Channel: Troy Tolley Cynic Appearance in Social Interplay of Overleaves Sentience in Mechanical Bodies Bernie Sanders Kurtis: Hi Michael, I'd like to continue as with last time on how the Cynic appears/acts in social situations. MICHAEL: The Cynic shows up in social situations as the person who "does not miss a thing." The Cynic sees what others do not see, and can be difficult to navigate in social situations because they naturally "throw a wrench" into the smooth social lubrication that is in place. Depending on the overleaves of the Cynic, this person may be more open about this, or more passive-aggressive about their perspectives that challenge the presumptions of others. In the Positive Pole, the Cynic usually sees no need to emphasize attention to what others do not see unless that attention is beneficial. Contradiction does not have to be offensive or derailing of social structures. Contradiction merely points out what is missed as a means to help. However, when the Cynic goes into the Negative Pole, this emphasis on what others may have missed is rarely helpful and serves only to undermine, or Denigrate. For example, if someone is being complimented on how beautiful she is, the Cynic may notice the spinach in her teeth. Everyone else has noticed, too, but may not say anything. The Cynic will likely say something. This information about the spinach in her teeth is simply information, but the Cynic can turn that information into a means to help, or a means to hurt. Pulling her aside to inform her is helpful. Stating, "well, you would probably look more beautiful without a tree in your front teeth" would not be as helpful. It is the same information, but the Cynic must learn how to deliver that information. Another way the Cynic can fall into the Negative Pole is if there is nothing of Contradiction to actually point out. Instead of allowing for the fact that there may be no Contradictions or need for Contradictions, the Cynic might then begin to make up contradictions simply for the sake of being contrary, to denigrate. This is the Attitude who can give the back-handed compliments, and the loaded statements that are cloaked in smug evasiveness like conversation bombs waiting for someone to step into. This is one of the Attitudes who can dismiss the responsibility of communication by saying that they are simply "telling it like it is," or "just telling the truth." When a person must qualify his or her social relationships with dismissive statements such as these, they are more often than not very clear about just how manipulative or irresponsible it is, and wrapping it in "bluntness" and "truth" seems to justify the lack of responsibility. We can elaborate further in more exchanges with you. PeterK: I have a question about the interplay of Overleaves and this particular example is based on someone I know, but not myself. What are the typical characteristics and behaviors of a person with the following description: Third Level Mature male Artisan, Priest Essence Twin, Passion Mode, Acceptance Goal, Idealist Attitude, Moving Part of Emotional Center, and Primary Chief Feature of Impatience? Peter, one of the important things to realize about Overleaves is that they help one to get to know a person, but they do not offer shortcuts to knowing a person. No combination of overleaves will have a "typical" way of being described because of the vast range of choice, influences of imprinting, education, culture, economic status, race, gender, etc. There is a difference between describing a home, and then describing the life that is lived in that home. There is a difference between describing the infrastructure of an individual, and then what that person does with that infrastructure. For instance: The above combination could be described as a person with a great resource of energy (passion) fueled by impulses in reaction or response to inspiration or feelings (moving part/emotional), used in ways that teach the values of accepting and being accepted, and learning to be authentic in his passion to say "yes" (acceptance), while always comparing people and experiences in ways that comply to ideals of improvement (idealism), all while trying to nurture fulfilling ways to create and bring form to ideas in this world (Artisan), and aiming to bring that creativity out and into the world to share instead of keeping it to himself or to only those close to him (3rd Level aiming for 4th Level), while sometimes feeling all of this is a race against time (impatience). This is as stripped of individuality as we can get for a "typical" description, but this combination as it would be described specific to a specific person could get greatly elaborated and nuanced as we accommodated the variables. ViP: The phenomenon known as 'technological singularity' refers to the (theoretical) point in the evolution of a sentient, organic species when its technology has developed sufficiently to allow the individual consciousnesses of its members to be transferred to host bodies built off that species' technology. (For purposes of longevity, increased mental capacity, freedom from disease, and so on.) While this phenomenon is still fictional to us, a number of people take the possibility of it happening very seriously and consider it inevitable. Is such a phenomenon actually possible, and if so, could you describe the ways in which a species actually does or did benefit from making this change? And, would sentiences tend to become increasingly or decreasingly benevolent/considerate toward other species as a result of doing this? It is entirely possible and has been a viable shift for a few variations of Sentience. In almost every case, this scenario was triggered by a known threat to the species, usually of a biological nature to an extent that requires the emphasis if survival is to be ensured. Because the shift away from dependency on biology for the sustaining of life, the Sentience has one of two solutions in place that help the evolutionary process: one is those bodies are shared by many Essences over time, and each "incarnation" is a reprogramming of the genetic software to accommodate the new Essences. Essences tend to then incarnate in waves that change out entire clusters very close together. So rather than aging and dying, the bodies power down and reboot. The other way this lack of dependency on limited time in a body is accommodated is through willing disassembly. Rather than "dying," most will know when they are done, and turn the bodies in for upgrades, parts, recycling, variations, etc. Again, the power is reduced or halted and then reprogramming and rebooting is what allows the next Essence to move in. Procreation is still possible, but only by those who learn how to build machines. In other words, you can combine creativity and knowledge to create your "children." Most that we know of opt to simply place their orders through collective resources. Because of the dynamic that tends to be in place to move Sentience in this direction, the interest in aggression and war tend to wane drastically, but there can be issues if access to maintenance and resources for repairs are sparse. There is usually a transition period that can last quite some time, and this transition has always been helped through companionship with biological creatures, or companion animals. The transition must be met with some infusion of responsibility and nurturing of life. The benefits are quickly learned, but is vital. We could continue to elaborate upon this in further exchanges. We will take a final question now. GeraldineB: I'd like the basic profile information for Senator Bernie Sanders, the presidential candidate – including Cadre/Entity . . . .and, probabilities of winning both the Party nomination and then the General Election (I know, I know – just the probabilities as they stand now) BERNIE SANDERS = 1st Level Old manifesting between 5th and 7th Level Mature Server-Cast Sage from Cadre 2, Entity 1 with a Warrior Essence Twin, an Idealist in Passion with a Goal of Submission with balanced Centering that leans toward Moving Part of Emotional Center. Probabilities of winning the Party nomination stand around 35% and the General Election around 45%.