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MMW - September 16, 2017 - Understanding YOUR Overleaves MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We can begin. We will suggest further clarification of this format for this topic: We encourage our students to never become complacent with knowledge. There is no end point to learning, as far as we know. There are plateaus upon which one would explore a focus on application as a means to gain experience, but one must continue to move to another plateau. The overleaves tend to be a point of re-entry for most of our students and they quickly become a foundation upon which all other elements of the teaching are built. It is often assumed that once one grasps the general idea of overleaves and their details then there is no more to learn, but continued learning is vital for this teaching to remain alive and valuable to you. A discussion such as the one posed for today is not a revisit to Overleaves, but a continuation of learning. There are 7 paths of continued study in our teaching or any other subject of deep interest: EXPOSURE, EXPERIMENTATION, CHALLENGES, APPLICATION, MEANING, SHARING, TEACHING. Application is the assimilative stage and can be inserted anywhere in this map. Many of our students will choose a path of study and then move into Application, but not move to another path. Most of these terms should be fairly self-explanatory, but we will briefly elaborate before opening to questions. EXPOSURE - the initial introduction to any new concept or new angle on a known concept. EXPERIMENTATION - questioning, testing, observing, exploring that new concept. CHALLENGES - the concept is met with conflict, conflicting experience, confusing experience, debate, doubt, and found to not work as expected. MEANING - the concept is finally owned, understood, and its value clear to the student. SHARING - you see the concept could be valuable and meaningful to others and seek to find ways to share your knowledge as insight, guidance, advice, or introduce others to the concept for them to explore on their own. TEACHING - the student now lives with the concept fully integrated so that simply existing becomes a model for the concept and others can see the effects and influence of this teaching with or without actual introduction to terminology or details. APPLICATION - the concept is at a resting plateau as other concepts are explored and pieced together with it. The sequence of learning tends to be in this order, with Application inserted as necessary. More accurately, this is the Sequence of Continued Study. Once one has reached a Teaching stage, it is always likely that a new angle will come on what was previously thought to be fully understood. Today we will focus on your questions and then you may see where you fall into the Sequence of Continued Study. We open the floor now to your questions about any Overleaf and any context. FLOOR IS NOW OPEN Johanne: Is APPLICATION = plateau, a halt in the sequence? MEntity: Not exactly a halt, but a slowing down. Johanne: You said: choose a path of study and then move into Application, but not move to another path. What is this path? MEntity: Application is a kind of resting point give one the room to see where one has been, where one is, and where one might go next in studies. Johanne, that path would be relative to the individual. For example, many of our students enter at Exposure and this is quite inspiring and exciting, and then move into Experimentation as a way to understand themselves better in light of this new terminology, and then will move into Application because she feels she now has a basic grasp on what her own Overleaves mean. She remains in Application and does not move on to Challenges because she feels understanding herself to a certain extent is all that matters. Johanne: Ok, I got it clearly. Thanks MEntity: NEXT, Lucianna. Lucianna: I would like to understand more about passion mode. When, for example, I think it's the family problem. This would be an manifestation of the negative pole of passion mode, the identification. Or is it something else? MEntity: Luciana, we ask that you clarify what you mean by "I think it's the family problem." Lucianna: I mean me. I always had the feeling that the biggest concerns of my family. The worst of the bad parents was about me and my future. I had some difficulty at the beginning of school life. And some difficulty getting a job. This raised some concern as to what I would get. And I already felt like being the family problem. Lucianna: I wrote some things wrong MEntity: We understand. Yes, Passion is involved here, but the core of the pain comes from your Acceptance, the Goal. Your challenge and motivation in this life is all about Acceptance. One of the most painful and beautiful things you will learn with a Goal of Acceptance is that Acceptance is not the same thing as APPROVAL. Lucianna: ok MEntity: You may never receive the approval you seek, and you may not approve of how your family behaves or supports you, but you can accept them and they can accept you. The pain comes from when you feel you must be different, to be something better, to be something more, to meet some condition of expectation in order to be accepted. Lucianna: yes MEntity: INGRATIATION is when one assumes that one should comply to the expectations and standards and conditions of others as a way to be accepted. INGRATIATION is also when one expects others to comply to expectations, standards, and conditions before being accepted. Lucianna: I see MEntity: What you will learn with the Goal of Acceptance is that your loved ones are also human and have their fears, their wishes, their worries, their hopes, etc. and they can be messy in how this is expressed if they are about you. If they express frustration with you, or disappointment, or higher wishes, or worries about you, this is not the same thing as being accepted or rejected. Others will always have their own ideas about what you can do to be a better person or have a better life. Listen to them and use what inspires you, but if it does not inspire you, it is not for you. It is not about you. Passion Mode can add to the pain because it can feel as if the criticisms from loved ones is about you as a Being. Though it is not always clear, loved ones often mean to criticize actions and choices, not the person, not the innocence and beauty of the person. Lucianna: yes, I understand MEntity: It is up to you to learn the difference between messy criticism and hurtful insults. If you determine it is only hurtful insults, then you have every right to establish your boundaries. If you determine it is simply messy criticism, then you can use that when it is useful, and discard it when it is not. We must move to another question to accommodate group dynamics, but the response above is a start in helping to understand your family dynamics better. NEXT, DIANE Diane: Pat posted not too long ago that she has a hard time figuring out the roles/overleaves of family and long-time friends. I've noticed that I have the same experience of having a hard time discerning overleaves of family, and some I’ve had profiles channeled that I can't validate easily or at all. I'm wondering if this is because I grew up with them and are used to seeing them a certain way, because they behave in certain habitual patterns around family (which I do too), because they're behaving according to imprinting...or what? MEntity: Your assessment is correct. Through this channel we deliver that which is on record in the Akashic. Those Manifesting Essence and True Personality are quite rare, particularly when in family or social dynamics. The tendency is to immediately present the most presentable persona, and/or the most protective persona. What can help in validation is to start with the ATTITUDE. This tends to be the most difficult to hide for long if there is interaction of any depth. It can also help if you design a set of Overleaves that describe how you understand and experience the other person. Let this stand as your interface for understanding them until they are more revealing of their True Personality. The above suggestions are for when the information delivered in channeling is fairly accurate, but there may also be instances when the information is distorted or incorrect. A Student will always have to consider that possibility. Diane: That helps, thank you MEntity: NEXT, JOHANNE Johanne: I am working as a team with 2 other people. We are not fully functionnal because one seems to me to be in the negative poles of her discrimination goal and realistic attitude. The two others: we are both in acceptance goal; for attitude: one is pragmatic and one is spiritualist. How such 3 set of overleaves could work better together or how to help each other to get out of the negative poles? The 3 of us are in observation mode. We all have arrogance in one of our CF. Johanne: to be brief, you can focus just on the discrimination: how to help go from the negative to the positive MEntity: REJECTION comes when one does not want to make a choice. One tends not to want to make a choice when the choices are not appealing, or when the choices are unclear, or one does not want the responsibility of choice. It is "easier" to simply reject than it is to do the work of Refinement. REFINEMENT is a state of responsibility for choice, the work of understanding and clarifying and questioning. Sometimes the process of Refinement for Discrimination can look like the Negative Pole to others who do not use the same process for making choices. If the individual is in the Negative Pole, there will be no effort to understand. If the individual is working through a personal process and is simply being difficult for those who have a different process, then it is likely not the Negative Pole. Those in Discrimination, even in a sustained Positive Pole of Sophistication/Refinement, can often be deemed "difficult." Johanne: ok, may be it is the process that is hard on us (acceptance). Very hard on criticisms. MEntity: Yes, this is Good Work: to consider if you are the ones implementing defenses against something that you do not like or understand. Acceptance can quite easily fall into the assumption that others or the self must comply to make things easier. Johanne: Having a realistic and a spiritualist working together is a bit of a challenge too MEntity: Many times it is not about easy or difficult, but about listening and compassion and patience. Johanne: Very right indeed MEntity: Experiencing challenges is something you can work with. Even when all are in the Positive Poles there will be challenges. It is only when Fear becomes the currency of exchange that you lose the capacity to move forward together. Johanne: I will remember that ! MEntity: It can be helpful to announce and clarify that each of you bring a strength of perception to the collaboration and that you welcome all of it. Make time to hear each other out. But make it clear that a process must be in place that is acceptable for final decisions, even if you do not like that final decision. Acceptance and Discrimination will always benefit from the experience of "being seen and heard." That is at the heart of either of these Goals. Johanne: thank you! MEntity: NEXT, BOBBY Bobby: With my Mode being Perseverance and the fact that our Mode is how we relate one on one, would you perhaps speak about how exactly you see that I do that with this Mode and what obstacles come to the surface most for me when I attempt to use it? MEntity: For Perseverance, "ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS" is a motto to live and die by. No amount of talk or presentation or explanation cuts it for Perseverance. You have to see results. This is true of how Perseverance relates to others and to the self. Bobby: Poor Troy MEntity: Perseverance despises weakness and insecurity and excuses, particularly when they are only used as a means to avoid Right Action. Perseverance learns about himself and others by constantly assessing the value of ones Actions. This can lead to relationships that are full of scrutiny toward your own Actions or lack of Actions, or can lead to relationships where attention is focused on others and what they are Doing or Not Doing so as to avoid your own insecurities, weaknesses, and excuses. Eventually, when Essence is Manifest and True Personality is present, the pitting of the self against others, and the pitting of the self against the self, comes to an end. Perseverance shifts into unity and combination of strengths to help fill in for weaknesses, not out of resentment and obligation, but from true vulnerability and responsibility. Weaknesses are no longer despised, but are healed. Actions are no longer assessed in terms of superficial standards to comply with expectations, but are assessed in terms of HARMFULNESS. This is the difference between UNCHANGING and PERSISTENCE. UNCHANGING is not about moving forward, but about holding someone or the self back. UNCHANGING is about locking someone into their flaws and insecurities and not letting them grow until they show some sort of acceptable remorse, guilt, shame, etc. PERSISTENCE is about moving forward, flaws, insecurities, frustrations, and all. You Persist. You learn how to carry everything and keep moving forward. This is true for yourself as well as any relationship. You draw the line if there is HARM. Bobby: Would you see it as it exists currently at the Application, Sharing or Teaching stage? MEntity: You are in SHARING. Bobby: Ok. Thank you! MEntity: FINAL QUESTION: Maureen Maureen: What are true abrading Overleaves? MEntity: All Overleaves in the Negative Poles. All Overleaves on an Axis. Overleaves with numerical values that add up to more than 7. For example, the Exalted Action Axis carries an inherent value of 7 and will tend to have the most abrasion with other Overleaves. A King must learn very quickly how to work with this natural state of abrasion. It is what hones the King into a great leader. The Exalted Inspirational Axis has an inherent value of 6 and can be quite abrasive to all Overleaves not associated with Server (1). The inherent bond of a set of Overleaves on an Axis that "adds up" to 7, such as Re-evaluation (1) and Growth (6) also comes with inherent abrasion by being on an Axis together. This makes for a kind of yin/yang dynamic that helps the personality "slide" between these as necessary. It is a misnomer for us to use a King as an example above. We speak of the Axis that are King Overleaves. Abrasion is rarely between Roles, only the Overleaves and how they are used. We will conclude here for today. There is more to learn. There is always more. And we encourage our students to continue banking their questions for when the time is determined by you as ready to ask. Allow your plateau of Application to be useful, but you will always move into another stage or path if you wish to continue studies. Good day to each of you. Goodbye, for now.