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  1. NYC Michael Speaks Live: The Art of Discipline [original date: Mar 25, 2012] Channel: Troy Tolley Edited for Clarity Transcribed by Eric Mielke [MEntity] We are here. We may ask you some questions that will ask of you an answer that may contribute to your understanding of the topic. So if there is somebody who wants to help document these responses, organize this now as we’re working to come through. [MEntity] Because of time constraints, we may have to limit our information today to the dynamics involved with the concept of Discipline. Troy has decided to call this the Art of Discipline, which is appropriate as we see anything that is involving a conscious effort or practice that leads to the evolution of whatever it is that you are practicing to be an art. [MEntity] Asking questions of us is even an art. It is something that evolves with practice. And so it is with your efforts toward Discipline. It takes practice and it evolves in terms of satisfactory results. [MEntity] So what we will do first is talk about Discipline and what that means in our terminology so that you can understand it differently – possibly differently – so that you can apply in a more useful way than you might be doing based on colloquial understanding or current societal understanding. But before we go into that we will ask you a few questions so that you can set yourself up for insight later. [MEntity] The first question we’ll ask you is “Who” – and when we say “who” here, we are speaking in terms of anybody, not necessarily someone you know. It could be a celebrity, but it would be somebody active in your life in some way. So first, “Who in your life makes you laugh? Who in your life helps you to laugh at yourself? Who in your life brings levity to your challenges, indirectly or directly?” [Answer] We can say them out loud if we want to for fun. Anybody interested in that? Well, I will pick people from the room, because Troy and Nick both make me laugh very much and at myself quite a lot. Do I…I don’t have to pick one, it doesn’t really matter, right? [MEntity] That is correct. [Comment] Okay [Answer] Oh I’m next? This is so sad, the only thing that makes me laugh is my cat. [Comment] I don’t think that’s sad at all. [MEntity] We will encourage you to think into a human circle of options. This could be a celebrity even. [MEntity] You are not on the spot, these are questions that, if you cannot answer now, or you feel on the spot, you can come back to or think as we continue. [Answer] I have coworkers I guess that, you know, we laugh, and, you know, we have levity. [Answer] For me, it’s my sister. [Answer] I wrote “Cyprus, my mother, Troy, myself, Kathy Griffen and Lucille Ball. Lucille Ball’s dead. [Comment] She is dead. [MEntity] Being dead or being alive is not a requirement, as long as they are active. And in this case, recordings or episodes certainly can still help to fulfill that. [Comment] Lucille Ball does make me laugh. [Comment] I was just saying today that Cyprus makes me laugh. I was telling Mark. Especially when she’s in distress. 6:50 [MEntity] Our next question for you, because we know the time is limited, “Who in your life is there no matter what.” [Answer] I pick the same two people. [Comment] Who are the two people? [Comment] You and Troy. [MEntity] Whether you are on good terms, bad terms, ups and downs, and even if that person is not currently active in your life, it is still someone who is there, that if you had to you could contact. You know where he or she is, you know how to contact them, and you know that you can. [Comment] Well, I may have to take Troy off my list in that regard then. (laughter) [Answer] I would say my father. [Comment] Me too. [Comment] Nicki? Paragraph? [Answer] I wrote “my mother, Cyprus, Troy, Christina, and my sister.” If I needed her, I know she’d be there. [Comment] With a switchblade out. [Comment] Oh yeah. [MEntity] Our next question would be, “Who or what circumstances tend to push your buttons, tend to agitate you?” [Answer] I’m gonna pick Troy and Nick! (laughter) [Comment] Circumstances… [Comment] Oh Mark… [Comment] It’s my turn to write a paragraph. [MEntity] Or put another way, “Who or what circumstances pushes you into discomfort at times.” [Answer] Um, I still might go with Troy and Nick, but also work. I get very stressed at work. But, Nick’s finding humor in my stress level earlier does not help with my life, does not make my stress level better. So, I’m sticking with what I have. [MEntity] Of course, these answers may change as you continue to explore these concepts, but this is a start. [Answer] That would be my job as well; the unstable, disfunctional company I work for. [Comment] Bobby? [Answer] I’m going with circumstances, and I said “being taken advantage of or being manipulated,” pushes my buttons. [Comment] Nicki? [Answer] I’m still thinking. Now I feel under pressure, I’ll just say that I wrote, “the neighbors lack of consideration, things not being good enough, people being really selfish and inconsiderate on the train,” really drives me crazy. That’s just…I’m sure there’s more, but that’s what I thought of. [MEntity] We will move on and we will come back to these. 10:25 [MEntity] First we will talk about Discipline. As you know, we like to share our perspective of concepts as a spectrum from positive to negative in terms of polarities. Discipline can be described as a polarity or spectrum, with polarities of encouragement as the positive pole and reinforcement as the negative pole. [MEntity] Keeping in mind that most of what passes for Discipline in current culture and even in past culture has been on the reinforcement side of things. Often, it is negative reinforcement, such as punishment. But there is also positive reinforcement, such as rewards. If you do something, you will be rewarded. If you don’t do something, you will be punished. Most people tend to then keep Discipline out of their lives, or at least resist the concept of Discipline, because of that emphasis of the negative pole. [MEntity] As you know, the negative pole, for our students who are familiar with our terminology, describes the more limited end of the spectrum, the more restricted end, the more focused end. [Question] Reinforcement is the negative pole you said? [MEntity] Yes. [MEntity] Therefore, when Discipline is being experienced from that negative pole, or taught from that negative pole, or brought into the life from that negative pole, it will tend to be something that you do not enjoy. Not always, some people do enjoy that: the rewards or the punishments. And especially in a Baby and Young soul paradigm, that end of the spectrum tends to work very well. If you are afraid, you will do what you are told to do. If you are rewarded, you will do what you are told to do. And so on. [MEntity] But as the soul grows older, this no longer works, and you would rather just stay away from the concept of Discipline unless you are told otherwise that it can work in your favor from the positive pole. And so what works better for the older soul is encouragement. There is no reward other than the experience itself. You do it because you want to do it. You do it because it evolves you. You do it because it moves you closer to whatever you were aiming for, rather than walking a tightrope between reward and punishment. [MEntity] Discipline is a position in your support circle of twelve, which we will not go into here, but is a familiar concept for our longterm students, and one that can be explored in our recordings or teaching elsewhere. [MEntity] There are twelve positions in your life that are always present as a form of support for you. These positions are played by other fragments who are active in your life. When you resist those positions, when you keep them from being fulfilled, when you do not allow the familiar fragments to step in and play those roles for you, then circumstances tend to fulfill those roles. [MEntity] As Discipline is basically a process of learning how to choose, then what will tend to happen, if you do not have a person in your life who is being encouraging or helping to provide structure, then you will tend to find yourself in circumstances that will push your buttons, that will challenge you, that will push you into a position where you become acutely aware of the process of choice. [MEntity] And we have used a simplistic example of standing in line behind somebody who is taking their time counting out their pennies and their coupons, and the frustration of standing and waiting. In that moment of agitation, you are experiencing the position of Discipline active in that moment. You are now in a position to make the choice to leave the line, to speak up and cause a scene, or to simply patiently wait. So the experience in those instances is an experience of acute awareness of the process of choice. [MEntity] For a lot of older souls, this is the only Discipline they have, because it is a passive form of Discipline. It just shows up, and it pushes your buttons, and it keeps you acutely aware of that process of choice. Those who are the least disciplined tend to have the most agitated experiences. Or those who have passively accepted the negative pole of Discipline will tend to draw those experiences in, so that it is always black and white, negative reinforcement or positive reinforcement. [MEntity] Do you understand so far? [Answer] Yes. 17:35 [MEntity] So to bring your consciousness to the process of Discipline means becoming active in the process of choice. Keep in mind that the whole point of Discipline and its reason for being in your support circle is because it is the very thing that helps to support your experience of freedom. [MEntity] Freedom and Discipline do not exist without each other. There is no such thing as freedom without structure. If you think about freedom without structure, you are thinking about a person free-falling. Yes that person can flail about as freely as they would like, but that is not quite the idea of freedom that most people think of when they are seeking freedom or would like to experience it. There must be something to hang on to, there must be structure, there must be parameters. [MEntity] So Discipline helps to shape the space in which you experience freedom, to shape the space and the time in which you experience freedom. This is why it is so important. When you do not have that structure, then you do not even recognize most of the time that you are so free, that you are capable of that freedom or the experience of that freedom. [MEntity] We will go further in this context to describe freedom as not being a slave to your emotions, not being a slave to time, not being a slave to your environment. In other words, Discipline frees you to make a choice that overrides anything else that you would normally find to be controlling you, such as your emotions or your anxiety. [MEntity] The circuit that must be understood for Discipline to work well in your life, begins by understanding that Discipline is an external process first and foremost. Discipline does not start internally. It works its way inward. Therefore, it takes your active effort in the world external to your consciousness to begin that process of Discipline, to begin that process of shaping the space and the time for your freedom. It is an active process. [MEntity] Once you have put into practice that external component, it begins to then become internalized so that it is no longer an effort. It is a part of you. It becomes an internal process. This is often seen by those who are wishing to become more fit and the process of exercising or putting into effect a routine of exercising. It does not happen from within. You must go to the gym. You must stand up. You must get up and move. You must take those steps first. Then it becomes a part of you. [MEntity] There are some concepts that start from within and then become more evident externally. In this case, it is something that starts externally and becomes an internal reality. But you must take those steps to do as a way of implementing Discipline. And when you do that, in general, it must come through the process of encouragement, not necessarily reinforcement through reward or punishment. [MEntity] However, in the same way that concepts that you would like to bring into your life anew begin internally or externally, so do the negative poles of a concept have to be processed first before moving into the positive pole. So when you begin the process of Discipline, when you begin the effort, you will begin from the end of reinforcement. You will have to have a sense of reward and punishment at the beginning. [MEntity] It usually works better for the older soul to use a reward reinforcement. So that if, let’s say, you are interested in exercising, that if you do your exercises for the day, you get to have a treat. This is positive reinforcement. This is not where you would like to stay, because then if there are no treats for that day, you may not implement the Discipline. [MEntity] So you must move into encouragement. And by encouragement, again we mean doing it for the sake of doing it. It is its own reward. And that means that when you go to exercise, you start to recognize that it is a value in itself. It is the treat, or whatever it is you are disciplining yourself to do. 25:12 [MEntity] Discipline is — we were originally speaking about it as a circuit — a circuit between the emotional and moving centers, or the inspirational and the action. These two components are the energy that must be in motion for Discipline to continue. In most cases, the reason you seek the process of Discipline is because something has inspired you to do so. You would like to lose weight, you would like to become fitter, you would like to whatever it is that would require Discipline. You are inspired to do so, and then you must take the action. And as you take the action, then the inspiration will show up again in different levels. And that cycle will continue. The more you do, the more you are inspired. [MEntity] That is very important to understand if you are going to actually practice the art of Discipline. It does not happen just because you are inspired. You must do. And just because you do, or rather when you do, the inspiration will become amplified. As that becomes amplified, your action becomes amplified and easier. Keeping that cycle going helps you to stay disciplined. [MEntity] This is supported by…let’s use a visual of a triangle so that at the foundation of your Discipline is action. That is the most important element of Discipline is the action. You must do even when you do not want to do. At the top of the pyramid or the triangle is the inspiration, because this is what you are aiming for. This is why you are implementing the Discipline in the first place. However, the sides could be described as being supported by the intellect and the assimilation, or the expression and the neutral. [MEntity] What this means is, in the process of the cycle of being inspired and doing – amplifying your inspiration, amplifying your doing – you must have some sort of plan, and that would be where the intellect comes in. You must have a plan. If you are going to practice the art of Discipline, it helps to have steps. It helps to have a path mapped out. This path can change. This path can be updated. It can be flexible, but you must have at least a few steps in mind as to where to go. If you do not have this, then you will not be able to reach, or continue, or sustain that cycle between the inspiration and the action. [MEntity] The assimilation side of the triangle is your comprehension or your digestion of the experience. In other words, when you get to step two, you must recognize it, you must assimilate, omprehend what you have done, give yourself credit, allow yourself to enjoy that process. Or, if you’re still at the negative end of that Discipline, allow yourself that reward. The assimilation side can be said to be the flexible side. You have to have that along with the structure or the plan. [MEntity] Are all of you following this? [Answer] Yes. 30:15 [MEntity] When we asked you your questions earlier, we asked them because in the circle of support that we have as part of our teaching, there are twelve positions. That circle of twelve is basically groups of three, because one of the ways – or rather the only way – in which evolution occurs is through the triadal process, which is also why we described the pyramid or the triangular visual so that we can make this point: that it is a process of three. There are always three sides or three elements that perpetuate or evolve a process. [MEntity] So in the circle of twelve, your Discipline support position is flanked by a Humor position and an Anchor. If you wish to implement Discipline in your life, it can help you to recognize where the Humor is in your life – or the sources of Humor in your life – and the Anchor in your life. This helps you when you are having difficulty remaining disciplined. [MEntity] Those support positions, your Humor position and your Anchor position, will help you to laugh at yourself, or to laugh. When the difficulties of implementing Discipline may seem overwhelming or daunting, turn to your Humor as a way to not lose your footing. This would be the equivalent of the intellectual side or the expression side of the same triangular visual. You must have Humor as a part of that process for you to truly be disciplined, to truly be experiencing it as an art. [MEntity] And you must have an Anchor. The Anchor is that neutral space that you can turn to that you know will not judge you, or that if the person does judge you, is doing so as a form of support in some way. So whoever was identified as Anchor can be turned to, not necessarily to be actively involved in your endeavors, but simply turned to to talk to, to ask for advice, or even to be thought of as an example to help you keep your focus. [MEntity] The Discipline itself would be the base of the triangle. So those circumstances that push your buttons, let those help in being supportive of your capacity for not being ruled by your emotional reactions, not being ruled by reactions at all, freeing yourself from those moments where the process of choice has become extremely acute. [MEntity] As you are implementing the art of Discipline, because that is the base of your triangle, so to speak, that is going to be what you will see the most, that is what you are going to come across the most: the challenges to your capacity to choose. So it is in those moments that you, in making a conscious effort, can say, “Yes I will get up off the couch even though I do not feel like it, because I am not ruled by how I feel. I am ruled by my capacity to choose. I am free to choose despite how I feel. I am free to choose despite the limitations I experience in terms of time or in terms of environment.” You can work around it, you can work with it, but you are not ruled by it. [MEntity] As we said earlier, at the top of your triangle was the inspiration. In this case that would be you. Where Humor, Discipline at the bottom, and Anchor on the side, you are at the top. You are what is being supported. And ultimately you are the inspiration, because inspiration, which is different from Discipline, is something that is generated from within. However much you may think it is external because you see it outside of you and something else inspires you, it is because it is a reflection of something that is potential within you, that you’ve already recognized as a part of you. [Comment] I think that’s one of the greatest things that you’ve said. I remember that from before. [MEntity] Yes. Inspiration is never generated externally. It is reflected externally, but it is always a reflection of that which is already internal, or a part of your capacity or potential. Not always is it understood. For instance, there may be an inspiring artist that you love or find to be encouraging, but it does not necessarily mean you are supposed to replicate that person’s art or path, but to find what it is within that is artistic, for example. 37:48 [Question] I have a question. So, I understand that Discipline is the base of the triangle. So your Discipline position, like who is in that position for you, how does that apply too? [MEntity] If you have identified an actual person…we started off our questions for you in terms of the Discipline base of the triangle, asking you about circumstances, because those are most likely what you will comes across as you are trying to implement your efforts towards Discipline. It’ll be more circumstantial. However, if you know of a person who is in your life who helps to provide you with structure – who helps remind you of the importance of what you are doing, helps to remind you of the point of what you are doing, helps to remind you of the next steps – that individual can be turned to then for help in keeping your choices in order. [Question] Well, I already know Nick plays my Discipline position. He’s just a vacuuming gestapo mostly. So how does that really apply? He is a button-pusher, that’s for sure. [MEntity] We used that angle on that question because, as we said, that is what you will come across when there is no one around. Often it is because of those circumstances that you do not make the choices that you wish would contribute to your Discipline, but rather you fall out of Discipline because of circumstances. So it is important to understand that it is not just a person, but circumstances in this case that you will have to contend with in that process of Discipline. However, if you do know your Discipline position, that would be someone you can turn to to ask you to help make a plan, to help you to stay on track, to be your accountability partner, for instance. Do you understand? [Comment] I think. [MEntity] So it is not necessarily that they will push your buttons. That is the circumstantial side. However, the person who plays that role in your life can be the person who helps bring the structure to your plans, to help keep you on track and to help keep you responsible and accountable. [Comment] Okay. [MEntity] So that might be the person you confide in to say “This is what I plan to do, can you help me stay on track? Can I report in to you?” [MEntity] If you look at what we described, these are the elements that are what makes certain organizations successful in their endeavors because they implement these things…such as weight watchers or other fitness programs. [MEntity] We use those as examples because they are quite difficult for a lot of people to implement and they epitomize to a great extent the examples of the obstacles to the art of Discipline. But they are implementing these elements that we have described and that is why they can be successful if the person who is pursuing them stays on track. They may not describe their program in quite the same way, but all of those elements are still there. [MEntity] Understanding this or hearing what we have shared with you today, is just the beginning of putting into effect the art of Discipline. We understand that this is an intellectual sharing and a sharing of information, and you may take it and set it aside and forget about it. But if you take it and work with it, if you look at the components that we have shared with you and keep in mind the polarities and keep in mind that cycle of inspiration and action, you can accomplish or aim towards pretty much anything that you wish to accomplish or aim for, even as an old soul who is quite tired. [Personal Q and A section omitted due to privacy] 43:11 [MEntity] This prompts us to add one more element: that the greatest pitfall for all of you in the process of implementing the art of Discipline is comparison. You can defeat yourself faster than you can even begin if you start from a place of comparison. It is very difficult to sustain the cycle of inspiration and action if you are comparing yourself to those who are already successful or who exemplify your aim. It is one thing to see them as inspiration and quite another to compare yourself. So we want to point that out that comparison is not necessary as a part of your process [MEntity] For instance, in your pursuit of being a singer, if you compare yourself to other people, or compare yourself as to your age versus another, or your style versus or another, or your anything versus another, you are whittling away, chiseling away at your foundation. And you more often than not, will undermine your effort if you use that process of comparison. [MEntity] The other thing your comment prompted was a question to ask each of you that, in our description of Discipline, “How often do you feel you have used the negative end for your life versus the positive end?” [Answers omitted] [MEntity] You have just pointed out what we shared at the beginning of our session with you. Your culture tends to identify Discipline as a reward/punishment system, whereas the positive pole of Discipline is doing it for the sake of doing it, for the pleasure of it. It is not something that is necessarily tied to any reward or punishment. Therefore, it is important to understand that Discipline is always, and always will be, and always has been, a part of your life. It is that spectrum between reinforcement and encouragement. [MEntity] We will say that as you work through the spectrum of Discipline, it starts from the negative pole, from the end of reinforcement. So when you are being raised, it is important to understand cause and effect. It is important to understand the reward and the punishment. That is a healthy way to introduce children to the concept of Discipline. [MEntity] As you grow older and you begin to develop your own sense of your capacity to choose, then you must be able to choose or make choices based on your own system, your own compass, your own desires, your own parameters. If you fall back on a reward/punishment system that was defined by somebody else, you have locked yourself into somebody else’s paradigm for your life. It is not necessarily that you have to get rid of that, but you must grow beyond it. You can include it, but it does not have to be the same exact structure. [MEntity] For instance, the things that were important for you to understand as being right and wrong as a child become second nature as an adult. It makes sense to you that you don’t put your hand in the fire. It is not a matter of reward or punishment, it is simply just true. [Comment] The reward is not being burned. [MEntity] However if you live in fear of fire, because you were taught to be afraid of it as a way to protect you, then you are locked into a pattern that is not necessarily helpful or healthy. So as you grow older, you must eventually – and we say older not only in terms of physical growth, but your essence’s growth as well – you must eventually move toward the positive pole so that you are making choices based on encouragement rather than fear. [MEntity] Discipline is a part of your life every single day, whether you are aware of it or not. In the same way that Humor is a part of your day every single day, whether you are aware of it or not. It is always there. All of the positions that we describe as your support circle are there every single day: Love, Knowledge, Compassion, all of the twelve support positions. And for the sake of this session, Humor, Discipline, and Anchors are there every single day, whether you recognize them or not. 49:18 [Comment] I just want to bring up one other thing. I think I’m understanding it correctly, but I don’t think it can be emphasized enough the importance of that at some point in one’s development, even when you first start learning right from wrong, positive and negative reinforcers, whatever…but at some point along the journey if you’re not told you can choose, or if you are not encouraged to choose, or if you don’t learn to choose, I think maybe you’ll never develop a natural affinity towards something. [Comment] For me, case in point, I’m a person who doesn’t necessarily like to read, and hearing what they were just saying about you start off with our parents giving you these sets of values. I wasn’t necessarily read to as a child, but I was very intellectual and I read. But really all through high school, and even up through college, I would say ninety-five percent of the time I read because it was required reading for school and for education. So I didn’t read. I mean, I read comic books. [Comment] But I read because someone else was telling me there was something to be gained from reading, and I never developed this innate love for reading, which as an adult…you know, all my friends, all my coworkers: “What’d you do this weekend?” “Oh I went and got to read my new book.” And I’m like, “That is the last thing I would want to do is pick up a book.” That’s like the last form of like therapy or pleasure for me. And it’s because, at some point along the way, when I should have realized, “you can now turn it over and you can choose to read,” I never made it a choice to read. It was always about positive and negative reinforcement. [Comment] And so I think that’s very important, in terms of Discipline: to realize or to have someone share that with you at some point, that you can now start making the conscious choice to love things or not love things. [MEntity] Your point is valid, and that is part of the growing up process, especially for those who go through the 4th internal monad of developing their own identity. That is a part of a rite of passage in every life. If an individual chooses to take that rite of passage on, they will be able to go beyond their programming. As a part of the perpetuation of your species, your first many years, up through the 3rd internal monad, you are receptive to imprinting, because knowledge has to be shared with you as a way of evolving the species. Everything that is known is then programmed into you, and then what you do with that is up to you. [MEntity] Many people do not go beyond their programming. They live within the confines of what has been taught to them. When you go through the 4th internal monad, you go through a process of keeping what works for you and expanding beyond that through your own capacity to choose, through your own capacity the shape yourself and to move forward in your life. [MEntity] And so your point is valid and is relevant to the topic. That is Good Work. [Comment] Heh. Score for you. Now it’s ten after five. [Personal Q and A omitted due to privacy] [Comment] It’s twenty-five after. [MEntity] With that we then will conclude and say goodbye to each of you. [All] Goodbye. Thanks. [MEntity] Goodbye.
  2. Michael Speaks 051009 OPEN FLOOR [Michael Entity] Hello to everyone. We are here. We will begin with a response to the question from Geraldine. [Geraldine] Hello, Michael. I've been reviewing information on concurrent incarnations and would like some additional information about their mechanics--such as: 1) what soul age primarily utilizes them; 2) if one concurrent finishes the IMs in positive pole, does this cause the others to undergo a level change; 3) if one concurrent causes karmic ribbons, does this affect the other concurrents; 4) do concurrents have substantially different overleaves, trues to accomplish, and agreements; 5) do concurrents finish out a round of incarnations before beginning a new round of incarnations or is there a more or less continual launching of a new concurrent as another one dies; and/or, of course, anything you might add to explain how concurrents work. [Michael Entity] We will respond to each question: In response to question 1: Though there is no rule to the use of concurrents by an Essence, there does tend to be more use of these in the Mature and Old Soul Levels. Another factor that can contribute to the use of more concurrents is the amount of land that is being utilized by that sentient race. If many fragments from that species are spread in many directions, this can tend to influence any Essence, regardless of Soul Age, to incarnate in multiple bodies. In response to question 2: Keep in mind that Internal Monads happen on two different levels and we will work with our channels to help encourage a clearer differentiation. There are Internal Monads relative to the aging of the body, and there are Internal Monads relative to the aging of the Soul. With that in mind, the Internal Monads of the body are specific to a concurrent, but the Internal Monads relative to Essence are contributed to by all bodies. In response to question 3: While the concurrents are incarnated, the karmic ribbons generated are specific to those bodies and have no bearing on the other bodies incarnated at the same time; however, those unburned ribbons will carry into other lifetimes as usual. In response to question 4: Each concurrent is no different from the idea that you may have for the more linear incarnations. They are each their own. Each will have its own set of Overleaves, "Trues," and Agreements. The degree to which they may be similar or different is simply a matter of agenda for the Essence choosing to incarnate in these multiple bodies. In response to question 5: To Essence, incarnating through multiple bodies is no different from incarnating in a more linear fashion, so the evolution will occur on the terms of Essence, however we do tend to see a pattern of concurrents exiting for the sake of review before launching a new "round" of concurrents, if that would be the choice of Essence to do so again. [luluaussi] does good work by one concurrent affect the progress of the essence as a whole? or is that too specific to the concurrent doing the work? [Michael Entity] In response to Toni: The "Good Work" of a concurrent is relative to that Personality's Life Task, and by extension, the fulfillment of any Life Task is beneficial for Essence. [luluaussi] ok thanks [Martha] IMs relative to the soul - what are those? How we progress through soul levels? [RabidNelson] I think they mean the "External Monads", the teacher/student, master/slave, etc. kind of experiences [Martha] ooohh [Michael Entity] In response to Martha: Yes, each Soul Level is only able to be transited when completing 7 Internal Monads. As many of our students know, there are several lifetimes involved in processing an Internal Monad. The body and Personality may have reached 40 years old and moved on into retirement stages, for instance, but this does not mean the challenges of the 4th Internal Monad were completed in terms of contributing to the evolution of Essence. In fact, the 7 Levels of any Soul Age Level ARE the 7 Internal Monads. In response to Jonathan; no, we were speaking of the Internal Monads, the 7 rites of passage that each fragment passes through in relation to itself as a means of evolution, not only of the body, but of the soul. [luluaussi] Then if I am understanding this, our casting placements in concurrents are the same, but with the "lifetime" particulars different, each having the same global job but through a different lens; the multiple lives serve to accelerate the essences development? [Michael Entity] In response to Toni: Everything relative to the design of Essence remains consistent. Only the Personality dynamics would change. [luluaussi] ok [Geraldine] I definitely would like to see additional differentiation on IMs . . .as I thought that if one incarnation of Personality didn't complete a particular IM in positive, the next incarnation had to complete it before progressing to the next IM -- this would imply that concurrents would then do additional incarnations to complete IMs [Michael Entity] Next Question: "Feisty" [fiestycappy78] I have recently had an inner realization reading a book on Adviata/Non-Duality (The Outrageous Myths of Enlightenment by Stephen Wingate). Where do your teachings fit in with the main teaching of Advaita, which says that Consciousness Is-And we are THAT. There is no separate self. The separate self is an illusion. My question, specifically, is around the idea of CHOICE and FREE WILL. Michael always speaks of CHOICE, but who has CHOICE if there is only ONE...? Isn't choice by the personality/Ego merely an illusion? [jon] good question ? [Michael Entity] Our response to this would be that there is validity to that philosophy, but as with many higher philosophies, they are rather tunnel-visioned. Of course, if one were to look at the original source (Tao, God, All-That-Is, etc.) and see that this ultimate force generated this universe, it could be easy to say, "where was my choice in this?" However, we encourage you to look at your current lifetime for that answer. It may be true that your parents birthed you and therefore, "you" had no choice in being born, but what you have done since that point HAS been your choice. With that in mind, we suggest looking at the parameters of Choice as being more accurately understood as Choices WITHIN. In other words, "you" may not have chosen to be created as a Personality, but you DO have choice WITHIN the life that you have. You may have limitations on certain aspects of life due to physiological, psychological, geographical, socio-economical parameters, but you do have choice WITHIN those limitations. Choice exists on all levels, even down to the cellular and subatomic levels, however the magnitude of impact and parameters increase the "higher" one goes. On cellular levels, for instance, choice is atomic, simply used as a matter of navigation. [fiestycappy78] Who has this choice? The personality/Ego? I have seen that the personality/EGO is not real...it is a collection of memories, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, self-image. So, who has the choice? Essence? [Michael Entity] The "who" of the choice-making is relative to the context. The more limited the context, the more linear the choice-making. The broader the context, the higher the consciousness used, and the more non-linear the choice-making. In the end, it is ALL "you," though the more linear aspects may disagree. And that is their prerogative. The more limited the choice, the more power the choice-maker has in that context. Think of the horse and rider, with the rider being Essence and the Personality being the horse. The horse will always have the specific details about the more limited contexts of where to step next, and can always buck the rider, if he chooses to do so. Or they can work together with one seeing the higher perspective for guidance, while the more focused perspective can navigate the terrain. Within a lifetime, both Essence and Personality have choice. However, Personality has the ultimate power of choice within the lifetime. Essence will not interfere with the choices of Personality. Personality can choose to reject Essence and navigate the life completely "on its own." However, Personality eventually learns how to manifest Essence and co-create the life through choices that are made on the levels of Personality, and leaving the higher patterns to Essence. If any of you choose to see yourselves as illusions and that your lives are merely the products of some higher force's choices, you are missing the point. But that is your choice. We would not agree with the philosophies that render the ego, the personality, or the lifetime as merely illusions. That is a perspective lacking in compassion and awareness, as your collections of memories, thoughts, beliefs, self-image are as "real" to YOU as any other level of reality is "real" to the observer that is "there." We are certain that "Tao" knows of all of us as being as "real" as itself, much like any creator of expression or art, or builder of plans, or teacher of thought would think of the creation, structure, or impact as having as much life and validity as the creator, builder, teacher, etc. We would think it very difficult for any of you to prove you and your experiences are merely illusion, which is not to say that many of you cloud the experiences and often sensationalize the journey with unwarranted fears, but that is part of the human experience and you eventually clear the way. Until you clear the way, even the clouding and distortion is as "real" as it is to you, until it is not. [fiestycappy78] Okay...I understand both perspectives, and I think that I will have to keep looking into my own experience... [Michael Entity] "Feisty," that is a fair analysis: that both perspectives hold valid truths. Next question: Martha [Martha] Last week you talked on TLE radio about it getting uncomfortable for older souls around feeling "authentic". This is something I am currently working on. It feels wrong somehow to not be myself, especially at work, or social settings, but then if I am completely myself in all situations then I out myself as being "not normal". And it's hard to have to deal with that over mundane issues, seems like it would add unnecessary complexity to some aspects of life. Can you elaborate on this issue? [Michael Entity] Martha, this is a common dilemma for the Older Souls and is rooted in what we refer to as Self-Karma, the internal divisions within the self that seek resolution. This particular Self-Karma can be described as a battle between honest expression and censorship. To most Older Souls, censorship feels repulsive, and this is amplified for the Expressive Roles. In fact we would be hard-pressed to find any valid Old Soul who supported any form of censorship. Censoring oneself as a means to "fit in" feels like one is a "walking lie," or liar, and enforcing censorship upon others is something we have never seen an Old Soul impose. [Martha] yes it does feel like that [Michael Entity] How others see you has no bearing on who you are. It is not always a matter of integrity in expression that your Being be clearly reflected back to you through those around you. In fact, being able to adapt to certain social contexts is a skill implemented by the Older Soul (begrudgingly, but a skill, nonetheless) and not a curse. The feeling of "not being yourself" has no bearing on your levels of honesty, nor your integrity of Being. Ultimately, all fragments extant will find themselves in contexts where they can say, "This is who I am," and other contexts where they say, "This is who I must be." In those instances where one feels one "must be," it would then be up to you to determine if this is a context worth sustaining in your life, or if it is time to move from that context. For many, the "must be" context is required for the self to draw an income, maintain peace in a relationship, fulfill responsibilities, etc. Many fragments "must be" a parent, even when they do not want to be. Many fragments "must be" at work, even when they do not want to be. The experience in sustaining these contexts, even through those bad days, is the implementation of your higher perspective, or manifesting of Essence, since you can see the payoff and the necessity of your choice. In those instances that you have decided that the context is worth it, then it would do you well to recognize that you have made an honest choice, ironically upholding the integrity of your Being, your soul and personality, since you know this is a context that gives back to you in a way that is valuable for other areas where you feel you "can be yourself." Eventually, the Personality will find little discrepancy in itself between one context and another, especially as one owns the fact that those contexts are being sustained by choice, even if only "for now." We will also note that every fragment can find at least one other fragment in which to confide and "be herself" in any context where one feels limited. This relationship is one that can be found with some amount of discernment and patience, provided one is not being held captive and against one's will, which is a karmic situation, not a situation of choice. [Martha] clearly then it's crucial to have some areas where you can be yourself [jon] Is it ever truly required for a fragment to stay in one of those contexts? For example, you may need a job to eat and stay alive, or one could be a slave, required to act a certain way or die [Michael Entity] Jon, Slavery is often not a matter of choice, but the same concepts would apply within those stricter limitations: one's imposed environment does not destroy who one IS, even in the most horrific conditions lacking choice, and confidence in at least one other fragment is often available even within those conditions. [Martha] thanks [Diane_H] Great question Martha [Michael Entity] Next question: Toni [luluaussi] hello Michaels. in regard to the approaching nexus: It seems that fear and greed is running neck and neck during these economic times with events such as the bulldozing of foreclosure properties in California which seem not only wasteful but without any real thought to "creating" only destroying ...could you comment on this in terms of the upcoming Nexus....does the radical restructuring of the global economy and our connections to each other, how people view their participation in this process come into play with the new platform? [Michael Entity] In terms relative to the upcoming Nexus and these situations that seem to indicate such destructive factors and forces, the Nexus toward the end of the month may actually bring about some relief, as it appears to be a movement toward generating realities of solutions, choices, and footing. However, in the larger scheme of things, this force of destruction is, so far, a result of resistance by Baby and Young to the Mature Soul paradigm. However painfully or dramatically the evolution moves, we do not see many probabilities where a new paradigm of Resource-Based Economy does not take root in your world.. [luluaussi] how can we proceed to as older souls to navigate through these times most effectively [Diane_H] (Thank God) [luluaussi] yes! [Michael Entity] The loss of so much property, prosperity, and the experience of this being in the hands of forces beyond those of "the people" is no longer of interest to your average level of sentience. [Geraldine] My observation is that most old souls were likely least affected by much of the economic turmoil as they are less material-oriented [fiestycappy78] that is certainly true in my case. I had nothing to lose! [Michael Entity] What we would suggest for the Older Soul as a means to navigate what might seem to be the tougher, challenging times of your economy and society is for the Older Soul to choose the higher perspective of trust in the evolution of your species as a whole, which is in evidence at every turn, despite the media emphasis on the more entertaining snags and dragging of feet, as well as a focus on how to increase the joy in your own life as a means to be a source of what you might consider to be a "positive force" in your world. [Geraldine] me, too -- I already was at the bottom due to early parts of the turmoil a few years ago -- and had already changed my perspective -- my volunteering will continue [luluaussi] ah ....you have indicated to me earlier that my own platform choices have been about balance between responsibility and playfulness I can see where this makes sense [Michael Entity] It is true that many of our Older Students see the impending changes and "destruction" as something that is happening "out there," in much the same way that the parent may see the growing pains of a teen, doing all one can to encourage a healthy direction, but knowing that the teen will do what he will do to learn. [luluaussi] thank you Michael [Michael Entity] Next question: Cheryl [oceancheryl] Could you please share your perspective of the recent Twin Oaks gathering? The energy felt very intense there, and I am wondering what kind of work we all were/are doing on levels other than the physical. I still feel like I am doing a lot of processing from the gathering. [Michael Entity] There are a multitude of levels, agreements, and exchanges that are too many to go into here, but we can say that the overall theme for all involved was one of increasing the experience of, and the implementation of, Agape. To the extent that one may have felt challenges in feeling loved, or being loving, in the true sense of the word, Agape, is the extent to which one may have continued to feel the effects from the gathering. A great amount of healing was generated during the gathering, and this sense of encouraged alignment left one with a clearer internal perspective as to what is inspiring in one's life, what is not, and what one wants to do next, if that internal perspective is willing to be explored. [oceancheryl] thank you michael [Michael Entity] Next Question: Tuija [tkmppi] What is the greatest possible difference in Soul age and level between Essence Twins? [Michael Entity] Tuija, we have never seen the Soul Ages between Essence Twins to be more than 3 Levels in difference, but knowing the flexibility of our universe, there are probably exceptions. Last Question: Jon [jon] What is stress? And what are good ways of reducing it (or at least its harmful effects)? [Michael Entity] We would define Stress, in this case, as Unwarranted Pressure, outwardly or inwardly. Outwardly, this could be said to be Resistance. Inwardly, this could be said to be Anxiety. Resistance and Anxiety are forms of defensiveness against that which has been deemed an imposition of Time or Space. Resistance is a defense against the demands of Space, or your environment, and Anxiety is a defense against the demands of Time. Ways of reducing Stress would be to update your perceptions and actions to relieve you of this unwarranted Pressure. Much of what is experienced as Stressful are situations that are more anticipatory than real. When one can update the perceptions to focus only on that which is tangible, then navigation through time or space can move more comfortably and freely. Friction is a natural part of life. In all lifetimes, through all Soul Ages and by all Essences, Friction will be experienced until the "end." Friction is the experience generated by opposing forces in the life, and in the Positive Pole, it could be said to be Evolution, and the Negative Pole could be said to be Stress. Evolution is the resolution of those opposing forces as a means to move onward; Stress is the defense against those forces as a means to remain in a pseudo state of safety. There are many ways one can relieve stress, such as walking, eating well, meditating, dancing, having outbursts, etc, but the most effective way is in updating the perceptions to manage only that which can be managed, and to allow room for your awareness of the forces of time and space, without the need for defensiveness against them. A more elaborate response might be in order here at some point, but we think this is some food for thought in regard to your question. [jon] Thank you [Michael Entity] We will conclude here. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
  3. Michael Speaks Live How Reincarnation Works -- Part I June 28, 2014 Channel: Troy Tolley MEntity: Hello to everyone. We are here, now. We can begin. Today we will talk about reincarnation, and how it works. Many of our students come to our teaching with presumptions of how reincarnation works, and most never ask about it. As our teaching is built from the questions of our students, and not from our simply deciding what you should know, the subject of reincarnation has been overlooked, despite its being such an intrinsic premise of this teaching. Much of what we will share today will not be new, but it may come together in a succinct way that is new for many. The primary understanding of how reincarnation works is quite accurate, but is simply not the whole story. Reincarnation IS linear. It does move forward in a way that reflects an evolution. So what has been shared in terms of this linear progression is certainly not misleading. It is just that there is more to it than that. So we will not be contradicting anything you already know from us. If there were no linear progression there would be no Soul Ages. So we will begin in our elaboration by saying that time and space of the Physical Plane are profoundly alive, made of an energy that does not "die," and is dynamic beyond what is currently understood as fact in sciences. It is speculated in many ways through mysticism and quantum physics, but as Essence, it is not speculation or magical. As we deliver this through Troy, there may be pauses as he unpacks new concepts or rearranges them into meaningful ways. Delivery speed will increase as we go. To help you understand how reincarnation works, we will use familiar tools and experiences as analogy. In this case, to start off, think of the Physical Plane as something more like an ocean into which one dives for an incarnation. If the ocean is the Physical Plane, then its container and depths are "space" while currents and movement of waves are "time." When you incarnate, your Essence never truly "dives" into that water. It is represented by its creation. "You." The vessel through which the dive is made possible. The beacon with which Essence remains connected to the Body is the Instinctive Center. Essence cannot swim, so to speak, so it can only "watch" from a distance, metaphorically speaking, of course. Once the body/Personality is created, those first 7 years are almost entirely in the hands of the caretakers raising the child, acting as extensions of the caretakers/parents. Those 7 years are the only years in which the choices of the Personality are not fully its own. There are either choices being made from an anatomic state, or being made on behalf of the child by the caretakers. This anatomic state is the negative pole of the Instinctive Center. It is based on a combination of the programming from Essence, and the survival mechanisms of the body. Over the course of those 7 years, the brain is then capable of generating the field that will be understood as the consciousness of that Personality. But it can take between 3 and 7 years for any body, regardless of Soul Age, to generate the capacity for consciousness to be sustained by the Body and Personality. Until that spark of consciousness lights up, the brain is only remembering in terms of sensory perceptions relative to survival, even if it is storing a great deal more. Anything stored beyond the necessity for survival can be retrieved once the consciousness is activated. To simplify this picture, it is as if Essence programs a disc, pops it into the body as it is being formed, and upon first breath, that body is on its own until it gains its first spark of consciousness. As consciousness expands in that Personality/Body, so does its capacity to give space and time to Essence. As "you" begin to expand in awareness of Essence, then Essence is no longer relegated to a passive position. It can begin to experience the world with you, through you, AS you. This is important to understand as it speaks to the process of the Internal Monads we describe. As each Internal Monad is fulfilled in the Positive Pole, a greater window of time and space is given to Essence through you. The Internal Monads describe how you allow Essence to exist through you, as you. Soul Age, on the other hand, describes how YOU progress toward existing through Essence, AS Essence. In Infant Soul lifetimes, the gap between Essence and Personality is the farthest, if you will, while the gap between Essence and Personality in the older Soul Ages closes. Within each Soul Age, the gap between Essence and Personality is farthest during the 1st Internal Monad, and closes as one moves through the 7th. This will be important to understand in a few moments. The Instinctive Center is something that is born of every Body. It is a blank disc, or "drive," if you will, in every body. Essence does not separate itself from the disc that is "inserted" into a body, but rather gives a COPY to that body. The "original" version remains with Essence. The "copy" is left with the Body/Personality. This is from which the Life Plan, Life Task, Agreements, genetic emphases, and Overleaves will arise for that body. The "copy" and the "original" are on a Frequency that is exactly the same as the Frequency of Essence, which is unique to that Essence and no other. Each of our students are fairly familiar with Frequency in terms of how one processes experiences, and so forth, and you may know your Frequency as 70 or 35 or 55, etc., but in terms of Essences, your Frequency number includes a massive string of decimal points beyond that number, entirely unique to you. That Frequency keeps Essence linked to the Instinctive Center "disc" that was inserted into a life. Regardless of how the brain will function for that Personality, that Instinctive Center will record everything experienced. Everything. It is the local Akashic Records of the body. In even the most resistant and limited of Personalities, the Instinctive Center "uploads" all new data to Essence every 7 years. So even if a Personality actively and effectively rejects Essence, that Essence will still get its updates about that Personality and those updates will "write" onto the original copy of the "disc" that is with Essence. That original copy that is with Essence is always with Essence and is updated in each of these 7 year Reviews, and in after death Review. However, that "copy" that was given to the Personality is forever unique to that Personality. It will not be destroyed, nor lost. Over the course of your incarnations as Essence, the Personalities that "you" were never die, either. In the same way that Entities are comprised of fragments who are Essence, Essence is comprised of fragments who are Personalities. "You," as Essence, are everything you have ever been, while "you" as Personality are utterly and entirely unique to who you are, every single lifetime. There will never be another "you." In either sense of the word. In those early incarnations, and soul ages, when Essence and Personality are at the greater distances apart, this is why the idea of having one life is emphasized. It is not inaccurate. You, as YOU, live but once. But even this is a bit of a misnomer. And this is where we will be venturing into some difficult territory for some. As each lifetime is generated, each Personality brought to life, each copy of a disc made for a Personality as a beacon for Essence, and even as each body dies, Essence is never limited by this in terms of its existence through any given Personality. Every Personality remains "alive" and existing for Essence along the way, easily revisited. It will not matter that for that Personality, it has experienced death of the body. Essence can simply "rewind" without losing its linear progression and revisit each and every Personality. There is a reason for this. Because every single Personality has choice, there will be many along the way that do not choose Essence. Many more than one would think. As part of the process of moving from one Soul Age to the next, it becomes a priority for Essence to scan back across the lifetimes lived as that Soul Age, and "collect" as many of those Personalities as possible. By the time one reaches the 7th Level of any Soul Age, the Personality that is at that 7th Level, even if 7th Level Infant, has expanded its consciousness enough to give room to Essence to move through the Plane of Time and Space to look for those Personalities that had rejected Essence. The 7th Level Personality lives as a kind of conduit, not only for its relationship with its own Essence, but also for all of the Personalities that came before it within that Soul Age. Because of this, not only is Essence linked to all of those previous Personalities and their copies of Instinctive Center, but that 7th Level Personality is, as well. The process of leaving a Soul Age, then, is like a telescoping reunion of sorts, bringing home any Personality that could not do so on its own. Until that happens, regardless of the experience of death for that body, that lifetime is literally being lived, over and over, looping, continuing in multitudes of variation. Because of that looping of the lifetime, the Instinctive Center that is unique to that Personality continues to be filled with data. Continues to transmit to Essence. That Personality evolves on its own. In its own time, at its own pace, and by the time there is a Personality at the 7th Level of that Soul Age, many of these previous Personalities that were locked into a loop of learning are now accessible to Essence, enough so to bring them home. Each Soul Age will often continue to have a handful of Personalities "left behind" regardless of that process of reunion because they simply have not expanded in consciousness to the point of allowing Essence to collect them. So at the 7th Level of each Soul Age, it is not only a process of collecting those within that Soul Age, but also a process of collecting from any Soul Age already completed. The 7th Level Old Soul, then, is extremely busy in this regard, linked to every remaining Personality across time that has not yet come to be collected. This is part of why it is difficult for us to give you Past Life information without some qualification, and often only in terms of distinct qualities that defined that lifetime. Because if there is a past life with which you resonate, it is likely a part of you still incarnating, having looped multiple times so that the variations on that lifetime are profound. This becomes more likely the further back in time and space we must look, while more recent lifetimes are fairly clear. That is because, as older souls, there are fewer of these looping anchors in "your" past. When you "cycle" off the Physical Plane, your Essence is then every single Personality it has ever been. Every Personality has come home. Every Personality has evolved to a point of consciousness that allowed for its ride home. This is important to understand because each of you are vital to that process. You are not merely a stepping stone for Essence. You ARE Essence. This is why suicide is useless, as well. It ends nothing. And even if the appeal of "starting over" is high, the disc that is unique to you is loaded back up and you must learn from within that all over again. We have said to our students that each Soul Age LEVEL is the completion of 7 Internal Monads. That is true. And it will take as many lifetimes as necessary, since not every Personality will complete the set of 7 Internal Monads. But Essence does not progress beyond a LEVEL within a Soul Age until at least one Personality completes all 7 Internal Monads within that single lifetime. However, with this new understanding you may have about how Personalities remain locked in a loop of incarnations, building upon its unique Instinctive Center, we can now tell you that every single Personality ever created will, eventually, complete every Internal Monad. That is how each of them go home, reuniting with its source, Essence. We have much more to say on this subject, of course, and we have yet to address concurrents and parallels, but this is a start. We will open the floor now for a few questions, but must conclude fairly soon for Troy. ***QUEUE IS NOW OPEN*** Janet: if the 'spark of consciousness' never lights up before the death of a child, what happens to the child's copy of its Essence 'disc'? Is it still a personality to be collected? MEntity: Yes. That incarnation will "loop" again and again for the sake of eventually living a full life. Keep in mind that there are parallels where that child may not have died, and this helps allow for the looping to be avoided, if possible. We misread your question. If the child is under 3 years old, or that spark of consciousness does not ignite, there is almost always a parallel where the life is longer, and the spark ignites. However, when that is not the case, and there are no parallels generated to accommodate the life, that "disc" will be used as "the next life." This is often the case in crib deaths, for instance. Does this answer your question? Janet: Yes. Thank you. BillG: Question: what is the fate of the focus personality after death of the body since it is the essence, not the personality, which is reincarnating? MEntity: For those Personalities who complete Review and reunite with Essence, it is quite similar to how one reunites with one's Entity as an Essence. The Essence houses the Personality in a way that allows for that Personality to continue evolving, but on the Astral Plane. It basically gets to "do whatever it wants." It is how the concept of "heaven" came about. The Personality gets to play, explore, create, and generate fantastical worlds to share. In many cases, a Personality will come to be the contact point for another fragment still incarnating, and that is how your own Essence can act as a "guide" for others. That is also how guides can often still have "personality.” The mid-Astral Plane is where your Personalities "live" once they are done in the Physical Plane, and they become accessible to "you" as part of your own network of support, guidance, wisdom, etc. as you expand your consciousness. You are never alone, in that regard, and what is "Essence" is forever changed by each one that comes home. Does this answer your question? BillG: Yes., thank you. Just wondering if those personalities include future selves as well as past ones MEntity: It can be complicated to explain, but yes, there are "future selves" there, as well, especially for those Personalities that are looping in their incarnations. That is a topic in itself, but the concept is valid. There is more to say, and we can always elaborate upon all of the various things a Personality can do after Review. Paulyboy: Hi Michael – Bill's question answered my original, so – Could you expand please upon the various things a personality can do after review? Like, have other lifetimes, be born as a dragon in some fantasy world, fly a starship in some sort of “Star Trek” like universe, be born a different gender on an alternate 20th century Earth, etc.? Expand please I find this awesome and interesting Rather, in the mid Astral plane, after "coming home" Thank you Watch versions of your favorite movie where the ending didn't "suck" from a slightly different parallel? Etc.? Anyway, just prattling on here. MEntity: All of the above, and then some. Keep in mind that this will have been within the Astral Plane. It is as real as the Physical Plane, of course, but simply in a different way with different physics. In addition to all of the creative ways one can live in the Astral, the Personality can also visit any of the previous Personalities still incarnating, act as a guide, support, etc. This is often the case for most who are 6th Level. This is why those at the 6th Level feel a bizarre sense of feeling protected and safe, even if life crumbles around them. There is a knowing that is new, and that is partially because that Personality is connecting with the truth of its many selves beyond any challenges. Surprisingly, many Personalities find themselves eager to help, support, and learn in ways that are not escapist. There are phases of adaptation that we can delineate that each Personality goes through once residing in the Astral. We can explore this in further exchanges with you. ConnorB: What role does a Personality play, if any, in the planning of a subsequent lifetime? MEntity: Connor, they play a vital role, if there is reunion. If the Personality remains in a loop, then Essence will use the data gathered so as to evolve itself and create further lifetimes, but in the case where a Personality returns to Essence, or when a Personality is manifesting Essence, then there is high involvement in creating "the next" lifetime. That is, if they choose to be. ViP1: I hope this question doesn't come across the "wrong" way but I've had it queued up for some time. Some spiritual teachings hold that it is possible, while physically incarnated, to cut the experience of reincarnation short by bringing oneself (through meditation or possibly other practices) into a state of experiencing oneself as being the "creator", or I suppose what would be called Tao in your teaching, and training oneself to stay in that state, even as the physical body and what it experiences via the senses is still perceived. And that there would eventually come a point where that state would become self-perpetuating, with no further individual effort required. And that upon the death of the physical form, one will remain in the experience of oneness with Tao, with no further reincarnations or experiences on any of the planes. (Not including Grand Cycles.) Is such a thing actually possible, irrespective of whether it might be considered desirable or not? If not, then what would you say these teachings might actually be describing, if it would be something you could comment on? MEntity: First, the concept is absurd. There are no shortcuts. Second, the concept is generated to bring false comfort. It is the equivalent of spiritual suicide. Those who would subscribe to the concept will be in for a big surprise. Bobby: By the time there is a Personality at the 7th Level of that Soul Age, many of these previous Personalities that were locked into a loop of learning are now accessible to Essence. Does the review only take place at the 7th level or does it happen for each personality just after death? MEntity: Review will happen after every death, but that Review determines if there is return to Essence, or continuation in the loop. It is not *quite* that simple, but it is the response we can get through for now. We must conclude here for tonight. We have exhausted our channel. Good evening or good day or good morning to each of you. July 6, 2015 Question asked during Ask Michael session JanaK: I have a followup question regarding the talk on the topic of Reincarnation. It’s about the “stuck” Personalities. There have been a couple of “teasers” thrown out, which I would like more clarification on. I will state how I understood it, so please correct anything that I have misunderstood. So if I understand it correctly, what determines whether the Personality is stuck, is whether they do or don’t complete the Review and reunite with Essence. If they don’t complete it and don’t unite with Essence, then they keep literally reincarnating, living through variations on the same lifetime (presumably this happens in separate parallels). They keep doing this, until they evolve enough to be able to reunite with Essence, in which they sometimes need to be helped. You have also said, that in this way they all do get to eventually complete all 7 IMs. Yet, I also thought one can complete Review and reunite with Essence without completing all 7 IMs? Are all personalities stuck until they have lived in some way (parallel or looping) till 7th IM in positive? MEntity: Here is the distinction we may have not clarified in our initial delivery: Those Personalities that fulfill an Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, regardless of whether the First, the Second, Third, etc., will likely NOT loop, but go through Review and gather on the Astral, being "collected" in the final Level of that Soul Age. Those Personalities that fall into a loop are those that do not complete an Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, or resign to the Negative Pole of an Internal Monad. That Personality will "loop" until it has completed the Internal Monad relative to what it had been trying to complete, and then it can move into Review. However, it is quite common that these Personalities will just continue to completion of all 7 Internal Monads, however many loops that would take. It Reviews, but mostly for the sake of updating Essence. The Personality is not quite capable of full comprehension until there is at least one Personality that has completed all 7 Internal Monads. Then the gathering of all Personalities from the Soul Age compile experiences for Review that launches the Essence into the next Soul Age. Because of the uniting of experiences and processes, then all Personalities that are a part of that benefit and, technically, each completes all 7 Internal Monads relative to their own lives. Those Personalities in a loop will have done so for themselves by this time, and will join the evolution into the next Soul Age, or will remain and continue in their loops, until either the completion of the 7th Internal Monad on their own, or help comes. Each of you will likely have several "loops" that will need to be collected from across your Soul Ages when you get to your 7th Level of the Old Soul Age. How Reincarnation Works -- Part II
  4. OMW - Aug 6, 2011 - Validating Your Profile Channel: Troy Tolley [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here. We will begin with discussion about the concept of Validation. We have shared on this subject many times, but will do so again, as it is a subject worth revisiting on a regular basis, or as necessary for rekindling the active process of validating. We have described the processes of Validation to include INTERNAL Validation, EXTERNAL Validation, and TRUE Validation. INTERNAL Validation is the process of determining what is valid and true for the self, and this does not have to be valid and true for anyone else. EXTERNAL Validation is the process of determining what is valid and true for others, and this is not always valid or true for the self. TRUE Validation is the process of matching Internal and External Validation into a kind of wholeness. The Validation process is never about absolutes, and is always about personal truths. Truth that is from the Global or Universal Levels of Truth require no validation for them to be Truths, but Internal and External Validation can help one to work with those truths, reject them, work around them, etc. For instance, Gravity is true for your planet and everyone on it, regardless of whether you have validated this for yourself, or not. However, if you fall down, you now have an experience that may validated the truth of Gravity for you, Internally validating it. If you see someone else fall down, you may then have witnessed the validity of Gravity for others, Externally validating it. This is True Validation. But in terms of Validation, it only means that it is now "true for you." However true and valid Gravity may be, there may be some who refuse to validate it for themselves, or they ignore the implications of what falling down may mean. This kind of logic and equation, if you will, remains the same for Universal, Global, and Personal Truths. NONE of them are true and valid for YOU until you Validate them. Validating from only one side, Internally or Externally, does not mean a truth is half-valid, or not valid, but that it is only true IN THOSE CONTEXTS. For instance, Love is a Universal Truth. You may have validated that it exists Externally, because you see it play out around you, and hear about it, and know others claim to have experienced it, but you have never truly grasped the validity of it for yourself. This means that Love is true and valid Externally, but not Internally. For YOU. Conversely, you may have grasped the magnitude of what Love truly is, moving unconditionally and with agape through your social and intimate relationships, accepting yourself and others, but having a hard time seeing this same state played out among your fellow humans in the world; seeing a great lack of love around you in others' lives. You know that Love is True. For YOU. But you have not Externally validated it in a way that it shows up in the world around you. Keeping this difference between Internal Validation and External Validation in mind can free you from a great deal of confusion and frustration when one is lacking. We often see our students using Validation as a form of defense against participation in the world, or as a means to delude themselves, or resist ideas and insights, because they have decided what is true Internally, but forget that it can also be validated Externally. Some of our students decide what their Overleaves and Role are, and regardless of feedback or evidence to the contrary, or evolving understanding through study, will continue to uphold that those Overleaves are valid. And they are. To them. And some think this is as far as Validation needs to go. Others may receive an inaccurate set of Overleaves from a channel and then work hard to make those Overleaves fit, because this set has been presented as valid, Externally, via the channel. Some think this is as far as Validation needs to go. In other words, Validation is reduced to "If I say it is true, that is all that matters." or "If [a channel] says it is true, then it must be." To some extent, both of those statements are true and valid, but only if you decide they are. Determining what is true for you, or accepting as truth what is true for others, are fair ways to work through experiments and explorations of the Physical Plane, but neither of these bring wholeness, and neither of these allows you or Essence to be fully present in your world. True Validation is not "easy," and it is often a dangerous obstacle to evolution, but it is also one of the only ways to truly evolve. When we say that it is "not easy," we mean that it is not often the case that you can find Internal and External agreement for validation. When we say that it can be a "dangerous obstacle to evolution," we mean that sometimes when both Internal and External validation matches up, those involved can resign from validating or questioning beyond that. An example of the first might be a homosexual teen who knows "who he is," and yet his family insists he is wrong about, or for, his sexuality. An example of the latter might be something like that which comes from cult thinking, such as "Jim Jones," "Manson," or "Heaven's Gate." This is why we build into our teaching an insecurity or instability that will always remain as a means to keep our students questioning, grappling, trying to make sense, taking separate stances, etc., because it is a teaching that supports your evolution, and is not meant to provide comfort and sanctuary. As soon as all of our students would agree, this teaching would no longer be a teaching. We share all of this with you because the process of Validation is not as simple as deciding what the truth is, and it is not as simple as someone else deciding what the truth is, and it is not as simple as everyone agreeing. It could be said, then, that Validation is "an active, conscious, constant navigation of Internal and External truths that can never be presumed conclusive." Before we get into the Overleaves, we will share one more consideration regarding Validation. Validation is a Monadal Process: a process of returning to a state of wholeness that is compromised of seemingly contrary or divided forces or states. This Wholeness is ultimately greater than the sum of the parts. Validation, then, is a constant dance between Internal and External truths. When one insists on one or the other, division is the result, regardless of how true something may be Internally or Externally. But there is a solution, even if only temporary, along the way to True Validation. And along the way through True Validation. And that is through the truth of: I DO NOT KNOW. Or: THEY MAY NOT KNOW. Taking the example of the homosexual teen who has struggled with accepting his sexuality, and has done so with great love, but is rejected by family for having done so, with their insisting he is wrong or bad, how can Wholeness for the teen come from this? He would embrace these conflicting truths, allow them to exist, under the umbrella of "THEY MAY NOT KNOW" and "I DO NOT KNOW. In this case, "They May Not Know" would refer to the fact that the family may simply not understand that that this difference in sexuality is of no threat, no consequence, no sin, and nothing more than a small part of him. This grasping of their lack of knowing can help to cultivate patience, and to help deflect the personal feelings of rejection and hurt that come from their lack of knowing. "I DO NOT KNOW" might refer to the fact that he does not have the skills right now to manage the rejection, the necessity to educate them, the impact of their words, etc. NOT KNOWING is always a viable bridge between conflicting truths. It "buys you time," allows for patience, compassion, effort, awareness, insight, perception, etc to come into the process. To be even more inviting of those helpful qualities, it might be helpful to add: "It is okay for now... that I do not know." or "It is okay for now, that they do not know." All of what we have shared above can help in the process of validating your Profile, Overleaves, Essence, and all channeling that might come through our channels, as well as your explorations of self, relationships, choices, and life. It can also help you in moments of conflicting truths where the battle to impose an External Truth over yourself, or to impose an Internal Truth over others, is simply useless and pointless. True Validation never comes through imposition, but through education and invitation. If you find that you are uncomfortable with a truth, or trying to force a truth, it does not necessarily mean that this truth is not valid, but that you "do not know." And that is as profound to embrace as knowing. Now we will move this into application for validating your Overleaves. Before we take on specific questions, we will say that the above can be applied in this way: Your Overleaves can be Internally Validated by you through your understanding of the terminology and how those accurately describe and lend insight into how you understand yourself. Your Overleaves can be Externally Validated by others through your seeing the behavior and feedback of others in relation to you, as you gain this self-understanding. External Validation of your Overleaves does not necessarily mean that someone else decides, "yes, that term fits." To rely only on confirmation of terminology would never give you True Validation. But if you find that your Internal Validation of the terms as they help you understand yourself is also affecting how others respond and react to you, as well as how you respond and react to them, then you may have found True Validation. In any case of terminology where you may not KNOW, the next steps are education and invitation. Which is why we are here with you today. We will leave it to Geraldine to choose the order of the questioning, but we will now open the floor to your questions about specific elements of your Profile. We will offer what we can for help in your, at least, Internally Validating the term, and then your External Validation may come in time. FLOOR IS OPEN [Martha] my question is about true vs public/private - is that on the table? [MEntity] Yes, Martha. Formulate your question about this and we will respond. [Martha] some of the overleaves for me are so different between true - public - private that it seems it speaks to me not having my subs integrated or something along those lines especially the centering was completely different for each one so some help with understanding that is what I'm looking for [MEntity] The Public and Private sets of Overleaves are shortcuts to understanding how, in general, one wishes to be seen, and how one is seen. They do not speak to sub-personalities, but do speak to the facets/personas that one may have developed. In your case, your sets describe the distance between how you see yourself vs how others see you, or how you wish to present yourself vs how you tend to be received. [Martha] So I act like a server and look like a warrior? LOL [MEntity] Though personas/facets may be related to sub-personalities, they are not necessarily connected. [Martha] or act like a warrior and look like a server? [Martha] but all sage cast :) [Martha] it's confusing [MEntity] In your case, the profiles speak more to the fact that you find yourself falling into positions of subservience and nurturing on a rather regular basis, but because of the resentments that may come from that, you can show up as harsh, frustrated, coercive, pushy. To respond to the Sage Casting for both, it would simply mean that you will still be expressive in either case, and often in loud ways. [Diane_H] I would like more clarity on Server casting. How I use it, etc. You previously mentioned I mainly serve myself, which I agree with. But most of my days I act more Scholarly. [MEntity] Though the Role is how one "shines" in the world, it requires the presence, or Manifestation, of Essence for that to happen on any regular basis, and this is something a Personality may or may not strive to do in a lifetime. However, Casting will always show up, as it is how the Personality defaults to functioning on a day-to-day basis. To help with Validation of any Role or Casting Position, it can help to look at other qualities that describe that Axis. In the case of the Server, you would want to look at the fact that this is an Ordinal Casting, first. It is Ordinal/Inspirational, next. This means that on a day-to-day basis, you may find that you naturally gravitate toward one-on-one scenarios, rather than group scenarios, and because you are Inspirationally-Cast, it would mean these one-on-one scenarios may require some sort of Meaning for them to be at all. [Diane_H] That's true, I hadn't thought about the Inspirational aspect. [MEntity] If something of Meaning can be brought to the exchange, then it may be more comfortable or pursued, but meaningless or random social or intimate contact is usually not of interest to the day-to-day functioning. The Priest seeks to bring Meaning to the masses, or a path to the creation of Meaning, whereas the Server seeks to bringing Meaning to the individual, or at least a path to the creation of that Meaning. [Diane_H] That really fits. [MEntity] If Server Casting is valid for you, it may show up as your being an important contact person for an important handful of fragments over time as you connect them to Meaning. Looking further, it might show up as a Re-evaluation in your pursuit of your Goal, Reserved in your Relationships, Stoic in your Perceptions, and even Self-deprecating, in general, in your day-to-day functioning. Re-evaluation of your Goal would show up as your constantly ebbing and flowing, halting and launching, always questioning the progress of your pursuit of your actual Goal in terms of the Overleaf, but also in terms of general goals, such as career. [Diane_H] Wow, that's a bull's-eye [MEntity] Reservation in your Relationships would mean always monitoring yourself, sometimes with Restraint, and sometimes with Inhibition, as you build yourself up in contexts of intimacy and resonance. The Stoicism in Perceptions might show up as your always keeping cool, or appearing cool, unfazed, no matter what you see, or how something is perceived, sometimes through Tranquility, and sometimes through Resignation. Though you will have your spectrum of Overleaves that describe you in much more detail, your Casting Position is like a packaged form of that entire Axis, and it will permeate the other Overleaves in some way. [Diane_H] But I also have all neutral overleaves, how would I begin to tell the difference between sliding and effects of casting? [Diane_H] Or perhaps I slide to the Server overleaves more easily? [MEntity] Neutral Overleaves ALWAYS appear like other Overleaves, hence their being Neutral. Neutral Overleaves will always "slide" as a means for functioning, and they may often go to the Axis of the Role or Casting. In your case, for you to truly Flow, you will slide to Growth or Dominance. Both of these are on the Axes related to your Casting and Role. The GOAL will remain the same, which is to Flow, but your means of Flow is to sometimes turn your challenges into opportunities for Growth/Evolution, and sometimes into opportunities to return yourself to a position of Dominance/Leadership. Validating Neutral Overleaves will always go back to looking at the Positive and Negative Poles as descriptions of where you land. For example, you tend to "take charge" and move into Dominance because you have fallen into Inertia, or feeling like life is not going anywhere, or is moving in a direction you would rather alter, and though you will use Dominance to alter that Inertia, it is still for the sake of Freedom, or returning yourself to a state of peace, not a state of control. [Diane_H] Very true [ClaireC] My "True Work/Life Task" seems rather abstract, no doubt because it probably relates to the "Big Picture". I'm able to validate that I do find commonalities amongst apparently disparate people and groups of people, however, could you give me other examples of how the pursuit of my "Task" has manifested in my life? [MEntity] Yes, Life Tasks are deliberately broad in scope, because we do not wish to define for you how you fulfill your Tasks, but our descriptions should still be able to be found in evidence, if valid, and if the Task is actually pursued. In some cases the evidence is obvious and grand, and in some cases, it is "right under your nose," and completely missed. In your case, the pursuit of this Life Task is still being explored, and there are only hints of its fulfillment at the moment. Most paths of fulfillment of a Life Task are rather subtle in the beginning, and are often not even clear until retrospect is possible. Your pursuit seems to show up most often in two ways: through being "in the middle" between those who are divided in some way, and by pulling together concepts from various systems that can then be translated into something useful for yourself or someone else. You seem to do this so naturally that you might even take it for granted. [ClaireC] Yes, this really resonates with me. [MEntity] Some may dive into a system and that becomes a core around which other systems must adapt, which is just as valid a means of exploration as any, but in your case, your Life Task is to bring systems together like gears in a clock. And by "systems," we also include people. For now, with minimal evidence of your Life Task, we can offer this up as a means to help with your Validation: Beneath your relationships and philosophies, you may find a dominant undercurrent question that may be something like, "Now, how and where does THIS fit..." [ClaireC] That's exactly how I function....like a giant jigsaw puzzle [MEntity] Others may relate to that kind of questioning, as well, but in your case, it shapes a great deal of your choices and pursuits, all funneling into the Life Task to find or create commonalities/common ground within various systems. [carolyn] Hello it's vey good to meet you here. I would like to ask if stepping into a designated "space of information" regarding the nine realities, could be used as a valid way of creating greater understanding around the True Validation of Overleaves. Particularly if this involved working in tandem with an entity mate or someone from your Circle of Support [MEntity] If we are understanding you correctly, we would say that is a valid means for bringing True Validation. This would be a process of recognizing that you may not share the same understanding, insight, experiences, "reality," but that your intention to invite and educate so that you can build some shared understanding, insight, experiences, and even "reality," then. It can also be the same if you already share these things, so that feedback is felt to be trusted and honest when exploring who you are to yourself and someone else. [carolyn] Share the same Overleaves? [carolyn] Well an aspect of your overleaves to be more precise. [MEntity] If you already share a reality with someone, share truths, share perceptions, it can be helpful for the validation process, but only if the intention is for validation, and not justification. [carolyn] By "inviting" say the Enlightenment position from your Circle of Support to assist, could this help further validate as opposed to justify? [MEntity] Those who share the same overleaves may show up as completely different Personalities because of how those Overleaves are used, so this would need to be considered, but there would be core traits that can be used by both. An Enlightenment Position from your Support Circle, such as we are for you and our students, is quite helpful for validation of such esoteric, philosophical, and intangible elements of the self and life. The Enlightenment Position helps one to develop the structures through which experiences are organized, understood, and processed, and having that in place can help a great deal when seeking True Validation of anything. Have we understood your questions accurately? [carolyn] Yes, thank you. [Geraldine] I've never completely validated to my satisfaction that I'm Sage-casted Sage; however, I think that is in large part due to poor definitions for Old Soul Sages in positive poles. I've validated my saginess more from how I acted when younger more than as I've been during the past 20 years or so. Although, I'm accepting that Old Sages may be far more wise and involved with truth than we give them credit for being. But, I liked how you worked with Diane's casting based on her Axis. Would you do similarly for me, even though I have matching casting/role? [MEntity] First, we will say that in the case of Sage for Casting or Role, the "packaging" would include Acceptance, Power, and Idealism, even Greed. In your case, these would show up not only when you "shine," but as a means for functioning on a day-to-day basis. Regardless of Soul Age, Sages will ALWAYS be affected by issues of Acceptance, and regardless of the Goal, will always move in directions that support or encourage Acceptance. This progresses in cycles of pushing for Acceptance of the self and of pushing for Acceptance of others. Beneath every motivation of a Sage is somehow connected to the pursuit of being Accepted. [Geraldine] Yes, I'm prone to a sweeping feeling of being rejected on a heartbeat. [MEntity] In other words, Dissemination or Oration will always be related to a Sage's navigation of Acceptance. For example, most Sages who Orate do so as a means to compensate for a sense of not being Accepted. [carolyn] I was cast with Sage as a discarnate Essence Twin, Priest role and Artisan cast. They all seem to fit on some level. [MEntity] Common to the motivation of all Sages would be statements that might go something like "I am telling you this so you can accept me;" or "I am telling you this so you can accept that;" or "I am telling you this so you can accept you;" or "I am telling you this so I can express my acceptance." [Martha] Oh yeah, that fits [Martha] A Sage must have come up with the "Like" button [MEntity] Going further, all Sages take a stance of Authority or Oppression in terms of relating information to you. Sages RELATE to the world, or to others, in terms of Expression in the face of Oppression, or sharing information as an Authority on that particular information. Power Mode is about being Present, and this is how Sages make their presence known. This is why Sages can come across as "obnoxious" and as "know it alls," because this is their nature: to be themselves, even when you wish they would not, and to speak or communicate with confidence, even as they know there may be more to learn. Sages have PRESENCE, or in our system, POWER. Sages cannot relate to others without feeling PRESENT. Otherwise, they are invisible, and invisible equals non-existent. No other Role (or Casting) requires their Presence to be known as a means for experiencing existence. Sages must show up somehow, to someone, or they die, either or both metaphorically and literally. Going further, all Sages, regardless of Soul Age, see the world in terms of how it can be improved. Regardless of the Attitude of the Personality, there will always be a theme of communicating for the sake of improving what has been deemed in need of improvement, whether this is a slow conversation, an awkward moment, a relationship, or a paradigm. Sages may do this through telling you all of the steps necessary for that improvement (coalescence) or by simply telling you it needs to improve (naivety). To Geraldine: are you finding resonance with these descriptions? [Martha] (I know I am) [MEntity] We will continue. In terms of the validating your Overleaves, will offer up statements and questions that can help in determining the validity of your set of Overleaves: [Geraldine] (and yes, I was) [MEntity] For your GOAL, a helpful way to understand how it shows up in your life is to ask: Is this a state to which I constantly strive to return my life, or the lives of others? For instance, those with a Goal of Acceptance will always find a theme of effort to be accepted, accept themselves, accept others, and encourage others to accept each other. Always. No matter what is going on in the life, the pursuit of this quality represented by the Goal is always a motivating factor in every choice. The Positive Pole is usually the most obvious way to find the validation in terms of your aim, and the Negative Pole is usually the most obvious in terms of when you feel the most ineffective or defeated. In other words, someone in Discrimination may see it most obviously in terms of moving his life into a state of refinement, or Sophistication, but can also validate Discrimination by seeing that he turns to Rejection as a way of dealing with defeat or ineffectiveness. Acceptance can see that he aims for bringing more affection or Agape into his life and the lives of others, but responds with Ingratiation when feeling defeated or ineffective in doing so. For your MODE, it can most often be validated by what you seek to encourage out of others, and what you often see is missing in others. For instance, Passion Mode would tend to encourage Passion out of others, and may gravitate toward others who lack Passion. Observation Mode might encourage others to pay more attention, and often gravitate toward those who have a hard time seeing clearly. For the ATTITUDE, it may be most easily validated by seeing what it is you most often find yourself trying to convince in others. The Spiritualist will try to convince others to the possibilities, and the Cynic might try to convince others to see the other side of the obvious, while the Idealist would try to convince others that the self, relationship, life can always be improved upon. We do not have time in this format to go through each overleaf, but these efforts to convince can show up in both positive and negative ways, relative to the poles. For instance, the Spiritualist would seek to convince others of possibilities, and can do so through helping others verify those possibilities, or by encouraging blind faith, or belief. In another format, in another time, we can describe all of the overleaves in terms that are far more capable of use for validation. We will conclude here for today. Our channel is fading in focus. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
  5. [Excerpt from Michael Speaks -- June 2009] [Question] Michael. This may seem terribly “basic;” however, due to discussions amongst students, I’ve become confused about how the various Soul Age Levels apply to Essence’s growth and development. When Essence first starts incarnating as an Infant soul, is it actually an Infant soul that then grows and develops as each level is achieved? In other words, do completing Internal Monads in positive pole, Soul Level, and Age, apply to Essence’s development? Could you please clarify? [Michael Entity] We think we understand your question and will attempt to respond appropriately. What we would remind you of, first, is that what evolves is the ROLE in Essence. We realize that the terms “Essence” and “Role” are used interchangeably, and fairly so, but they are quite different in technical terms. Much like your Personality and Essence are truly “one,” they are still not the same things, technically. For the sake of this response, we will use the terminology of Essence for the part of you that exists with or without a Role. We will use Role to refer to the specific medium through which Essence experiences itself in relation to other fragments sharing a similar agenda, and sharing an intent to be a part of the spiritual ecology of a particular system, such as Earth, all of its life forms, and more specifically, Human Sentience. The PERSONALITY experiences evolution within a single lifetime, from its Infancy to Death. Within that time frame, it goes through rites of passages relative to its physical and psychological age progression and our channels refer to those as Internal Monads. The ROLE also goes through stages that our channels refer to as Internal Monads, which is a different scale than that of the Personality. To help in clarifying this differentiation, we think it would be a good idea to refer to the Internal Monads of the Personality as “The Seven Rites of Passages” as a means to differentiate from the Seven Internal Monads of the Role. The Seven Rites of Passage are still, technically, Internal Monads, but specific to the Personality. Not all stages, or Rites of Passage during a life will be experienced or completed within a single lifetime because of physiological or psychological interruptions, limitations, and interferences. ROLE experiences evolution from its first physical lifetime through its last physical incarnation, even if by proxy (Transcendental or Infinite*). Role's evolution is measured by Internal Monads, as well, but these are relative to the progression through the Soul Levels that you find in the Soul Ages. The Role's evolution through each Level is dependent on each Personality's efforts to progress through its own Rites of Passages. The further a Personality can progress through its Rites of Passages in the positive poles, the further the Role is progressed through its own Internal Monads. The 7 Internal Monads for the Role are the 7 stages of EACH LEVEL of the Soul Ages. Since it can take several Personalities (incarnations) to finally get through the 7 Life Stages, both physiologically and psychologically, it goes that it also takes that many lifetimes for a Role to progress from one level to the next in a Soul Age. With this understanding, you could say that it takes 7 successful Rites of Passages to equate the 7 successful Internal Monads of the Role. The process for the 7 Rites of Passages takes place within the physiological and psychological boundaries of the Personality, whereas the 7 Internal Monads take place within the levels of Essence/Role and is built upon the processes of the Personality. [ADDITIONAL ELABORATION from TROY] There are a couple of ways this evolution happens: COMMON PROCESS (classic process) Let’s use a 5th Level Old Sage who is just starting the 5th Level. 5th Level Personality # 1 : lives to 12 years old; finishes the 2nd Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 2 : lives to 25 years old; finishes the 3rd Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 3 : lives to 50 years old: finishes the 3rd Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 4 : lives to 52 years old; finishes 3rd Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 5 : lives to 60 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 6 : lives to 45 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 7 : lives to 55 years old; finishes 4th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 8 : lives to 72 years old; finishes 5th Rite of Passage (negative pole) 5th Level Personality # 9 : lives to 65 years old; finishes 5th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 10 lives to 25 years old; finishes 6th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 5th Level Personality # 11 lives to 17 years old; finishes 7th Rite of Passage (positive pole) 7 Rites of Passages Completed; 7 Internal Monads Completed = 5th LEVEL Completed NEXT LIFETIME = 6th Level; and a completely new cycle through the 7 Rites of Passage/7 Internal Monads as a process toward the next soul level/age. Notice that a “short” lifetime can still quickly build upon the collection of past Rites of Passage as a means to “quickly” move into the later Passages. It is often the case that if only the 6th and 7th are remaining, a child will generate a terminal illness early in the life, speeding the process of awareness of mortality and impending death as a means to sum up the Rites of Passages, Internal Monads, and Level. RARE or NON-Classic Process: In some lifetimes, it is of interest to the Older Soul to transit a Level WITHIN the lifetime. This is rare, but not so rare for Older Souls. When this happens, the lifetime is quite literally “two lifetimes in one.” There are a multitude of reasons for choosing this process, and here's how it works: Let's use a 5th Level Old Sage who decides to transit Soul Levels within a lifetime. Only the 6th and 7th Rites were not completed for the 5th Level, so rather than have a short life, or die when the 6th and 7th Rites are completed, the lifetime continues into a new cycle of Rites of Passages. When this happens, the Personality literally goes through a phase of deep awareness of its mortality and senses an impending “death.” All Rites of Passages are physiological and psychological. We often think of these as relative to the physical age, but that just so happens to be a classic pattern. The actual Rites can happen at any physical age. It’s the psychological levels that are the important dimensions. That's why someone can be stuck in the 3rd Rite of Passage, but be 80 years old. It’s also why a 12 year old can be processing the 6th Rite of Passage. So when a person is transiting Soul Levels during a lifetime, it means they are also completing in the positive pole the 7th Rite of Passage. When that happens, the person undergoes a kind of psychological death (7th Rite), the Soul Level transit happens, and a psychological rebirth (1st Rite) happens, regardless of physical age. The following Rites of Passage will now add an interesting process to the lifetime as the person, regardless of physical age, now processes this rebirth, and then attempts the 2nd Rite of Mobility, the 3rd Rite of Independence, etc. as far as they can go with what years are left within the lifetime. Sometimes they only get through the first or second Rite, sometimes further. [END NOTE FROM TROY] [Question] Does this mean that Essence can have multiple Roles incarnating — what makes up Grand Cycles? [Michael Entity] With all of this being said, the ROLE starts as an “infant” because it is relative to its current cycle of exploration within a specific species, but the Spark who is Essence existed long before this current Role and species. There are other species and systems through which an Essence/Spark has already explored, from the initial choosing of a Role to its reunion with Tao. We refer to the entirety of this process as a Grand Cycle. Your Role does not change during one of these Grand Cycles, but once that Grand Cycle is completed, the Role is discarded, along with all of its dynamics, such as Frequency and Male/Female Energy Ratios, Essence Twins, Task Companions, Entities, Cadres, etc. and when a new Grand Cycle is chosen, all of those elements are chosen anew. The Grand Cycle is to your Essence/Spark, what each Personality is to your Role. Most fragments within the Human Species have an average of 3 Grand Cycles. Most of our students, which is one Energy Ring, or 12 Cadres, share an average of 9 Grand Cycles. Essence does not evolve without the Role and the Role does not evolve without the Personality. Personality does not evolve without the 7 Rites of Passages. We realize we meandered through a response as a means to help provide context for our response. Did this answer you sufficiently for now? In conclusion, the Essence/Spark DOES evolve, but it is on a different scale of measurement. There is a time when the Essence/Spark is an “infant,” so to speak, but it inherently retains all of the qualities of Tao. The Essence/Spark's scale of evolution is of such a scale that the results would be difficult to comprehend. From what we understand, each Essence/Spark eventually runs its own universe, eventually fragmenting itself and continuing the spectacular creativity that is Tao, becoming its own “god,” if you will. But this is not something one need concern oneself with as you consider how to pay your bills and get along with your loved ones. The number of Grand Cycles does have some effect on the way a Role will show up, even in its first Infant lifetime. Those with higher Grand Cycles can tend to seem much wiser than those with fewer Grand Cycles, which is why Entities and Cadres who share an average of Grand Cycles tend to incarnate quite tightly at first so that no one “sticks out.” As the Role evolves, the Entities and Cadres “spread out” and are more capable of blending in with other fragments who may have more or less Grand Cycles. [Comment] Sometimes, I think we incarnate to escape the complexities of it all…we come here to stop and smell the roses so to speak [Michael Entity] We would agree, especially for those lifetimes having a Goal of Flow or Re-evaluation.
  6. Janet

    Community

    This question was originally posted by Matthew on 10/7/07. There have been a few channelings about community in the last several months, and it feels like people have different ideas of what community is. So my question is, are there levels of community? If so, could you expand on them? RESPONSE FROM MENTITY: Of course there are levels of community: Seven. Keep in mind that we have stated, and will state again, that there is no such thing as "True Community" in a "virtual" world. There are "Groups," but not communities. (see additional channeling from previous question from the past below) In addition to this reality, a group involved with our teaching does not usually lend itself to creating or evolving an actual community, even if within physical proximity of one another. By definition, a community is formed from the commonalities of background, locale, and shared commitment to a general perimeter of a single philosophy in some way. Your backgrounds are highly varied, your locale can only be described accurately as "Earth," and none of you are committed to any particular philosophy, choosing more often than not to create your own philosophies from the spectrum of resources. However, if the effort were to be made, and the conditions met, a community could arise. We realize many use the word "community" loosely, but a more accurate term to describe the various groups (besides the word "groups," which many of you may find too cold) and their varied emphases might be FAMILIES. Once the fixation on the concept of Community is loosened, and the emphasis on Family is brought to consciousness, a much more flexible, meaningful, and networked energy will move through the relationships among our students, raising the experience of harmony and resonance among the families to a new level not found to this date among our students. With all of that being said, we will respond directly to your question, as well. SEVEN LEVELS OF TRUE COMMUNITY (in physical space) 1st Level SURVIVAL (instinctive) Here the emphasis is only on keeping the group sustained, alive, healthy, and economically sound. 2nd Level EFFECTIVENESS (moving) At this level of development within a community the emphasis moves into how to keep order and productivity flowing by creating systems that work, minimizing frustration among the members, thus keeping the esteem of the group at a higher level. 3rd Level RESONANCE (emotional) Regardless of the population size of a community, there will always be sub-groups within this with varying needs and wants. This level is about addressing those various needs and wants across the sub-groups so that harmony can then be sustained. 4th Level INNOVATION (intellectual) In this level of community, the focus moves into how to keep the community renewed, progressive, adaptable, and with an eye to the potential, shared ideals. 5th Level INTERACTIVITY (higher intellectual) Here, the community now reaches beyond itself to neighboring communities for support, exchange, communication, sharing, and awareness. At this level, communities begin to grasp that all communities impact each other in some way. 6th Level ESSENCE (or "essentials") (higher emotional) At this level of community the "soul" of the community comes alive through the implementation of the ideals explored at level 4, while becoming sensitive to ethics, empathy, and individual differences within the community. This level brings a sense of direction, an emphasis on happiness and fun, entertainment, creativity, allowing room for Personalities to bring in Essence more fully. 7th Level VISION (higher moving) At this level of community there is a keen awareness of generations, futures, and rights. At this level there is an emphasis on clarifying a vision toward ensuring a nurturing for those who will come after, a security for the future, and an ever-expanding embrace of rights among members of the community and beyond, including other communities and species. These levels are fairly developmental in terms of the whole of a community, but it will be apparent that there are often varying levels of emphasis within a single community. Once one level is implemented, however, it is functional and alive and remains a part of the process, regardless of emphasis. If a single level loses functionality, a loss of community ensues, or a return to level one is necessary. *additional channeling from previous question: [Lightspring] Many of us have been struggling lately with the concept of community. Within the loose community of Michael students, it seems that there are varying degrees of longing for community, as well as differing definitions of it, which is all to be expected among a large group of people. Isn't the whole point about manifesting love as a group, while at the same time exploring group dynamics and learning from one another, and how can we best do that, given the current limitations of group makeup and communication options that are available? [Michael Entity] We have always referred to our groups as "groups" as there has never been a lot of cohesion throughout those who are interested in our Teaching. For one thing, True Community can only be accomplished for those within physical proximity of each other. This is why this task is so daunting and met with such obstacles by those seeking it online. Trying to create a community in such an ephemeral and intangible space such as the internet can never be done on a level that is True. Community can be mimicked online, but not established. In the same way that we have just described the evolution of a Mature Soul government, so too is the evolution of a group sharing an interest in a teaching (or any other focus). The consideration must be made for what each group needs and wants before there is cohesion, if cohesion is possible at all. For those who put effort into physical interaction, True Community is most likely and this CAN be carried back online to some degree, but limited to those who have had the physical contact. This is why there was/is such inspiration and motivation within the groups that form in physical space, but then somehow find this does not translate online. Accessing the internet is easy, as opposed to the efforts of making physical contact. This means it is easy for those who have no interest in supporting "community" to be a part of that dynamic. Often these fragments are obvious and often they are not, but they will remain an insidious force that will generally keep cohesion from ever being feasible. In Physical space, these same people are more obvious and their behaviors can find evolution by being around those who model more mature behavior, but online, they can be locked into patterns that cannot be interrupted at a distance. All of this being said, creating True Community is only as easy as the effort of all involved. Even if one person is part of the process who does not share the same effort or ideal, everyone is affected. It can be a tedious and long process to build and sustain True Community. In terms of the "whole point being to manifest love as a group," this can only be done to the extent that each individual has done this within his or her own life, and most are not interested in manifesting True Love, or Agape. To do so is a terrifying prospect as it involves detachment from many things that are used as personal identity and purpose within the life. For most, Love is experienced in pockets of interactions, or time, but not as a state that can be sustained for a group or community. To help in your pursuit to create True Community, we would suggest the following: ONE: to realize that it is something that must be done with at least a physical counterpart that is nurtured regularly to some extent. TWO: to identify online cohesions as GROUPS, not Communities (at least in concept) and allow room for divisions that are in place for various reasons that not all will understand or want. THREE: to use INVITATION, not EFFORT, to create cohesions online. If there is frustration or effort being applied to create cohesion online, then the direction is more about the one making the effort, not the benefit of the group. FOUR: understand that the whole point is not about manifesting love as a group, but manifesting love as individuals, creating a sum that is greater than the parts. This takes time and energy and personal development that can be lost in the efforts to proselytize cohesion on a group. FIVE: Cohesion in a group is something that forms, but is not created. It is a natural byproduct of invitations and those who are participating, and the shapes and overlapping are as ephemeral and amorphous as the space in which it has been forming. There will never be anything static about Groups. SIX: Whether speaking of True Community or Groups, there will always be a process of evolution that includes the 7 Stages of Initiation, Discrimination, Stability, Corruption, Healing, Integration, and Neutrality (a stage that can be inserted at any point within the process to bring about a break to the process). Again, this is a subject to which we could devote a long discussion, but we believe this gives some food for thought for now.
  7. This question was originally posted by Jon on 3/4/08. I had kind of a cool idea. It has been said that fear is an illusion which only exists at our level, and that viewed from other perspectives everything is seen as form of love... Could it be that the energy of fear is just the energy of love traveling in the opposite direction in time? If you were to make a film of two things being attracted to one another, and you ran the film backwards, it would appear that the two things were repulsed from one another. Perhaps, we then weave these energies together to create the complexity and duality we see around us. I don't know if it is true, but it is an interesting thought... I wanted to see what Michael had to say about it. One part that doesn't seem to fit is the fact that "opposites attract" (e.g. the electric and magnetic forces). Richard Feynman theorized that antimatter was just matter moving backwards in time, and as a result, it's sign was inverted. But particles of opposite sign attract. I am confused now... maybe Michael can help to sort all of this out? REPLY BY MENTITY: Our first response would be that fear is not an illusion, but a vital form of navigation that the body enlists as a means to survive. What tends to be the illusion is not the fear, but what is feared. The more aware, conscious, and clear one is in perception, the less fear is needed because most experiences are not valid threats. When a threat is valid, so is the fear that alerts you to that threat. When teachings try to convey to you that "fear is an illusion," it is usually to help remind you of your ultimate reality of existence that is not affected by threat in any real manner. This is good to remember, but we also know that to be human means having a body and personality that is designed to survive. This means it will do you good to use fear for what it is: a form of navigation for survival, while remembering that the essential "you" does exist beyond any threat in any form. In response to your question: if the evolution of the universe were linear, then your analogy would have bearing, but the universe evolves exponentially and in a more spherical fashion than is currently understood. On a literal level, the physical universe in which you exists is expanding and this can seem linear, but again, this is more spherical. This is why you may have trouble reconciling the linear analogy with the "opposites attract" theory, because within this spherical evolution, events can merge and diverge in closed systems and still be a part of the overall evolution. Even the closed systems can interact, merge, and diverge. Imagine the effects of a large boulder being dropped into the middle of a lake. The systems within the lake will ultimately be affected by the concentric ring of waves that are emitted from the impact, along with the interference patterns that are created by the "return" of the waves. While the lake is now jostling, rolling, and moving, the events, life, and experiences within all of that movement will still continue, and often proportionally "ride" the waves with seemingly little effect. The above is a crude analogy, but one to help get one started in understanding how evolution (movement) can happen concentrically/spherically without necessarily interrupting the events, systems, and experiences within that movement.
  8. MICHAEL SPEAKS Online 110407 [Michael Entity] : Hello to all of you. We are here. We will call on Glenn for the first question. [Glenn] : I have a question about the implicate structure of the universe. I've studied Indra's Net, Michael Math, the Golden Mean, Sacred Geometry, Quantum Physics, and music. I've had dreams and vision quests which have shown me numerous complex matrices and structures. I don't know how to bring them into physical reality. I guess my question in brief is why have I come across this information and how can I best utilize and/or transmit it? [Michael Entity] : The collective consciousness of your particular Cadre specializes in this particular area of the universe and so it is not surprising to find your interest blooming within your lifetime, especially given your particular Entity's position within your Cadre. We have regular contact with what might appear to you as being your "future" selves in terms of your collective cadre consciousness as it exist within the Causal Plane. A common reference to this collective has been "Mentax." This response helps bring insight into the why of your interest and strong attraction to this angle of study of the universe. In terms of how to best utilize and transmit this information, we can only suggest that it is a process of study at this point; an exploration of patterns and potentials, but not one of conclusions that need be "transmitted" within this lifetime. The closest we can come to describing how you may already be expressing this geometric spirituality is through the construction of musical notes and your exploration of the impact of melodies, notes, and the spaces between those very notes on space and senses. It appears to us that there might begin to be an emphasis of movement and composition away from a linear exploration and into a more circular exploration, leading to a more spherical experience at some point; if this makes sense to you. [Glenn] : Spherical and spiral. It makes total sense to me. [Michael Entity] : As music and math are "two sides of the same coin," it makes sense to us that your explorations are between these intimate sciences. [Geraldine] : What is Cadre 2 known to specialize in? [Michael Entity] : Cadre Two seems to have a theme of emphasis of specialty in Color and Light. We refer to this collective consciousness as "Polymous." We remind all here that the "names" we share here are translations from a less-verbal means by which we actually refer to your Cadres. We also remind you that the themes we describe are broad and are taking into account a grand collection of experience that can be reduced to a very thin theme, and those themes are full of sub-themes, and not all lifetimes and personalities will recognize these grander themes. [christian] : My question was prompted by one of the Mblogs. How would I help my sister to stop blaming so that she could release the pain? It seems the pain has in part come to define her. I see that as restrictive. Please advise. [Michael Entity] : We must remind you that we do not "advise," as we do not have an investment in your choices. We can, however, respond with our observations and suggestions: In terms of helping your sister to stop blaming, we would suggest, first, that you examine why you would wish for her to be rescued from her personal experience and process. We use the word "rescue" as this is what we would describe the act of interrupting an experience for the sake of what might be defined as a state that is "better" for a person. Quite often what one believes is "better" is not for the sake of the person being rescued, but for the sake of the rescuer. In other words, it pains you to observe her struggles, so to remove her from her struggles may bring relief to you. We do not state this as incriminating, but as a first step in understanding your motivation to help her. Honesty with yourself is the bridge of effectiveness between your efforts that benefit you and benefit the other fragment. We also suggest this examination of motivation because what might "help" her the most is not an ending of her process, but walking through it with her at her pace and with the restrictions and pain she may feel is necessary along the way. When we say "feel is necessary," we do not mean that she wishes for this pain, but that the pain is a product of her processing of truth, and it is accepted as such on a level within herself that trusts her own navigation of her life. In short, the pain that you perceive as having come to define her is just one side of the process that will allow gaining a more comprehensive awareness of her truths. It is only one side. It is not her conclusion. If you wish to help her, we see one of your choices that would bring about your desired results would be in simply walking with her through her process, but consciously embodying a trust in her process, yourself, so that she may also draw from that example of trust and regain a conscious remembering of her own trust in her process. This trust exists already within her, but not consciously. Let her blame. Let her restrict herself. Let her identify with the pain. In many ways, "the only way out, is through." Once the personality has fed enough on the lies that surround the experience, then the dessert of truth can be enjoyed. [christian] : yum!! [Michael Entity] : We do not mean to speak so poetically, but these words have meaning in more ways than poetic. [hairguique] : Hi Michaels and Troy, As students of Michael we are all developing our understandings. How does one develop their communication with Michaels? Like Channeling, auto writing? Being a Healer is very important. [Michael Entity] : Communicating with us is quite simple in most cases, but there are certain strengths inherent in your Overleaves that bring about ease in one area or another of the process. There are three major parts to the process of communicating with us or any other non-physical consciousness or energy, with a fourth part that is the sum of the three: Connection, Translation, and Transmission, with Comprehension as the sum of all parts. Some of you are quite naturally in contact with us because your Overleaves fall predominantly in the Inspiration Axis, while some of you are quite accurate in your Translation of the energy because your Overleaves fall predominantly on the Expression axis, and still others of you are quite comfortable with your Transmission of this energy into physicality because of your Overleaves falling predominantly on the Action axis. For effective channeling to occur in a way that most think of "channeling," then an emphasis on the "weak" areas of your Overleaves is needed for building strength and balance. In other words, in examining your profile, the axis with the least amount of overleaves may be an area in which your emphasis may need to be, while noting where your overleaves predominate can bring some confidence to that aspect of your communication. To explore this question fully is an entire course in itself, but we can say these quick considerations for now: depending on your strength of emphasis in your Overleaves, ease of contact with us might come in these ways: Inspiration Axis/Dreams Expression Axis/Conversation Action Axis/Affection. For those with an emphasis on the Assimilation Axis, your Comprehension may be a strength, but usually through experiences of contact with another person's strength of emphasis; for example, comprehension may come from the experience of Affection, Conversation, and Dreams. In areas lacking emphasis, we can say these quick considerations for building strength and finding tools: Inspiration/Listening and Dream Journaling Expression/Telling the Truth and Tarot (or other symbolic forms of oracle) Action/Asking for Help and Psychometry. Though we have much more to say about this subject, we will move on now to the next question. [AnnH] : According to Abraham, it's difficult for us to go from depression to joy in one step. It's said that moving up the emotional scale is more beneficial. Can Michael add to this? [freyaisis] : (the emotional guidance system) [AnnH] : More beneficial as in truthful, helpful, fewer expectations. Yes, thanks suz [freyaisis] : your welcome, good question ann [Michael Entity] : We would agree with what has come through the source known as "Abraham." We have rarely seen evolution occur in "one step," but have seen all forms of growth or healing as being in steps as part of a process. What we can do to add to what you have already found as beneficial is to describe our observation of the process for movement from the state of depression to the state of joy, but we would caution that it is not a linear process with a conclusive state, but the progress from depression to joy is a natural cycle of experience while having a body and reaching joy does not mean one is then exempt from the troubles of depression. It is not necessary to avoid or "heal" depression, nor is it necessary to seek only a state of Joy. What will tend to bring a wholeness to the life is the awareness of who "you" are even as you experience those fluctuating feelings. Depression is merely an attachment to one state of feeling and identifying entirely with it, rather than differentiating oneself from the experience of that state. This would be true of joy, too. Joy is a PART of life, not the goal of life. Depression is a PART of life, not a condemnation. In light of that, our process would be one that describes a process of detachment and a broadening of consciousness, rather than that of a healing or escape from a state of feeling. We will describe this in the final transcript, but the time allotted now does not allow for that. (NOTE FROM TROY: this will come soon, but I have to work on it. It should be done soon!) Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
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