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January 4, 2001 Troy Tolley, channel Open Floor [Michael_Entity] Hello. We are here. One moment. We realize, once again, there is no Topic suggested of us, so we will simply move into an Open Floor format. [ludmila] There has been much talk lately about child-abuse. What kind of karma or agreements is involved in this? Specifically sexual abuse of children by adult authority figures [Michael_Entity] Child abuse is not a standardized event. There are many factors that may be involved in the experience of abuse, whether between adult and child, human and non-human, etc. Karma is either created or is being balanced, though it is very rare for an Agreement to be involved, except in the Old and Mature Soul Cycles. Abuse when linked to an Agreement is specifically, then, related to the imprinting required for the fulfillment of the Life Task. Whether the abuse is “used” effectively as a tool in that process will rely on the fragment and the use of the Overleaves, in general. Abuse in relation to “Authority Figures” and children is not a category anymore than abuse from a stranger harassing a child on the playground. There are no definitions or differentiations that can create categories of abuse except in “styles” of abuse. We will say, however, that those who have experienced abuse as children at the hands of Authority Figures (assuming it is not a Karmic Formation) are generally balancing Karma related to Positions of Authority where Abuse was inflicted by “themselves.” As with all Burning of Ribbons, the Karmic situation is usually, simply, reversed. We do not know if we have addressed the deeper issues of concern or question here, but we have answered the question as stated, as clearly as we can. [mamajo] How can one tell when Karma is being created, and when it is an agreement to facilitate imprinting? [Michael_Entity] Any formation/burning of Karma interrupts and distracts the life in a deeply affecting way. Karmic Formation can usually be identified as lacking compulsion to be involved, but there is an element of shock and chaos. Karmic Burning of Ribbons is usually marked by a compulsion to remain involved far past logic and emotion and body would dictate otherwise, followed by a great relief when the Karma is burned. In the event of the Burning, much of what was so compelling is then seen in a bewildering light, as if you were in a trance the whole time. In terms of facilitating Imprinting, the fragment being abused usually has a “bizarre” sense of safety and peace throughout the events. There is a creation of a strong support group outside of the event, in many of these cases, which are rare, as we said. The abuse as imprinting is heavily marked by this use of the experience as a platform for a greater vision or affect on the life in a discernible way, without referencing the abuse in a negative way. [momhawk] Hello Michael. I was wondering about family ‘icons’ vs. ‘working groups’ as per your channel Victoria Marina. This material seems more in the Shamanistic vein, and I was wondering if there might be another way to view this type of Information, from a different ‘angle’ or slant (Perspective ;-) Does cadre 1/entity 1 have any ‘task groups’ that may be exploring “abuse” themes? Thank you. [Michael_Entity] Family Ikons are vastly different from Working Groups and have no bearing on each other. One is the imposition on the Personality as imposed by expectations from family and early environmental influences from important fragments in the life, while the other is a configuration of fragments working on esoteric themes begun in the Alexandrian Schools. Though we do not claim the latter as “our teaching,” we do have access to facilitating the teachers of that information. What you refer to as “task groups,” we may simply call Entity Themes. Your concepts of Task Groups, though, are not inaccurate, as there are pockets within the entity that do work on various themes. There is an “overall” theme, of course, for instance, in terms of your Entity being the most Cardinal and numbered 1 in your Cadre. Your themes in general will all be linked to Purpose and Simplicity; the positive and negative poles of any Entity One. Within the Entity there will be, again, a division in Cardinal and Ordinal themes. Many of you working with issues of abuse for your Entity are in the Ordinal half of your Entity. [momhawk] Would these ‘themes’ then, be like major and minor ‘octaves’ of learning experiences? [Michael_Entity] We would not link the terms “major or minor octaves of learning” to the themes. Those terms can relate to the overall Entity's collection of experiences and to a fragment's experiences, yes, but we do not define an order to these themes from this level with those terms. [momhawk] Ok, could entity one be ‘specializing’ in a major octave of HUMANITIES, with various ‘minor’ octaves (or ‘themes’) of those ‘subcategories’ (such as abuse), for instance? [Michael_Entity] The way you presented your last question, yes, your definition can easily be applied. Artisans are even more preoccupied with the architecture and order of an Entity and Universe than even us. We say that with validity, not necessarily to provoke humour. [nemo999] Should I expect or seek justice on the physical plane? It does not appear to exist here, or for a personality. [Michael_Entity] This would depend on your definition of “Justice.” If by this you mean a sweet feeling of satisfaction for having felt something has wronged you, there can be temporary satisfaction in various ways, but rarely does it settle the “soul.” If by Justice you mean an awesomely compassionate balance to every event, then that is something you can count on entirely to be found. [nemo999] Balance within one life span? [Michael_Entity] While on the Physical Plane, much of what is sought as “justice” is simply a need to be acknowledged. Much of what is defined within a lifetime as injustice or justice is but a minute part of the larger picture. It is only within the concepts of the Old Cycle that a fragment may truly be able to bring to the Physical Life a sense of that awesome balance. So, to answer your question more succinctly: to expect or seek justice within a lifetime before the Old Cycle is usually indicative of Maya, Self-Karma, Karma, or Chief Feature and the apparent balance may or may not be seen. [Kathie89] I am interested in palmistry. Does frequency show up in the hands? Specifically, do smooth fingers indicate high frequency and knotted fingers show low frequency? [Michael_Entity] The hands are an excellent indicator of how the Frequency is being used, but not necessarily what that person's Frequency is. Smoother joints/knuckles in the fingers do appear to indicate the processing of the life to be at a higher frequency, while more “knotted” joints/knuckles can indicate a halting or stalling of processing of the life. Those who have lower frequencies will have had “knotted” fingers for most of their life, regardless, and can rarely “smooth” them out, but those with higher frequencies can tend to create a more “knotted” structure due to being imposed on by lower frequency fragments. It is much more “acceptable” in general to have a lower to mid frequency, therefore those with higher frequencies are more subject to being reprimanded in their processing style for “not thinking,” being “too spontaneous,” “jumping into things,” being “chaotic,” etc. If lower frequency fragments surround a higher frequency fragment, the knotting can indicate this reduction of processing to accommodate. [Kathie89] So life experience can slow down a high frequency? [Michael_Entity] It cannot “slow” the frequency itself, but it can slow down the fragment's managing of it. For instance, those who have higher frequencies who deal with the imposition of lower frequencies tend to “pop their knuckles” more, burn their hands at some point seriously, get bitten, etc., as a means to bring a consciousness to the process that would normally not be required. We will note additionally that those with higher frequencies even when having knotted joints will still tend to have a “smoother” flow over the knuckle, a gradual shaping. Though this is not an intended pun, our response only touches the surface of this question regarding palmistry. There is more correlation that is valid. [Lori] I would like to know what working group or theme I might be in my entity seven, cadre one. [Michael_Entity] Though we do not specialize in that teaching through this channel, we can say that it appears you would be part of what is referred to as the HAWK Working Group. In terms of your Entity's Theme in general, Entity 7 is geared toward the spectrum between Inculcation and Eclecticism; the positive and negative poles of any Entity 7. The themes within your particular Entity are highly active in Teaching. Most specialize in addressing troubled Personalities in some fashion, offering insight, healing or teaching. There are a great number of psychiatrists, ministers, and therapists (physical and emotional), and musicians with focus on healing as the result of their music. Andreas Vollenweider is a prominent example of the latter. [Barb] Good evening, Michael. I realize you are not a “Psychic Eye” per se, but can you give us any probabilities as to what the next four years hold in store for the United States under the leadership of our next president, George W. Bush? [Michael_Entity] We do not believe this fragment will remain in a position long enough to warrant a look into the next four years. The percentages are quite high for this fragment to leave his position in a rather dramatic fashion. He only wanted the experience of “winning” and living up to his own Family Ikon. This is ecstasy for that fragment and the responsibilities that go with remaining in the position are far too overwhelming. This is one of your major shifts in Power that will be scrutinized. Especially after the apparent fiasco around the process of getting this fragment to that position in the first place. The next four years, though, will be focused on themes instilling a new consciousness around CHOICE. Your election was one of the first “lessons” around this Century of Choice and the ramifications of choice being interfered with or not enforced. A new “60's” mentality appears to be on the horizon with greater numbers in protest and “raising their voices.” It is safe to say that the Mature Soul consciousness is well under way on your planet. [MaryBV] I know the name for cadre 1, entity 1 is She-Hulk, but what is the name for Cadre 2, entity 3? If possible could we get the names for entities 1-7 in this cadre? [NOTE from Troy: Below, in response to the above question, is a good example of channeling being influenced by the limitations of ME. “I” read the question to Michael wrong and they responded to that. This is a more literal example, but any channel in their interpretation can distort any question and then the channeling/Michael responds to that. Sometimes that subtlety would be hard to see. Anyway, take it as an interesting fumble, if nothing else!] [Michael_Entity] That is not the name for Entity One, Cadre One. That is a convenient and affectionate name chosen by some of our channels to capture the “flavour” of that Entity's general dynamic. Understanding that these are not names chosen by us, we will share what, in general, has come to be references for these Entities: Entity One: “She-Hulk”; due to the Artisan/Warrior dynamic and the fact of Artisans being in more male bodies, while Warriors being in Female bodies. Entity Two: “The Loudmouths”; due to the high proportion of Artisans and Sages. One only need meet a fragment from that Entity to understand this nickname. [MaryBV] Michael, please excuse the interruption, but I was requesting information on cadre 2 [Michael_Entity] We are limited by our channel's eyes, of course. We are “blind” without them. We will respond again: since Cadre Two has so few fragments involved directly with us, there has come to be no consistent “nicknames” for the Entities. As we said, they are not names chosen by us, but we are unaware of any significant names at this time. It would not be difficult to create them, if you observe more of the dynamics of the entities involved. We, then, do not have an answer for this. [End of Channel Blunder, ha ha] [Barry] Regarding your description of working groups as “a configuration of fragments working on esoteric themes begun in Alexandrine schools….,” this struck a chord with me. I’m not asking for details, but can you confirm whether I am part of such a group and if so, what it’s esoteric theme is? (Cadre 1, Entity 6) [Michael_Entity] You are from an obscure grouping called LEOPARD. The themes involve being in highly contrasting environments from what your “true colours” are, thus bringing whatever teaching theme is being studied at the time to more fragments not directly linked to that teaching. Your entity and cadre have no bearing on the configurations. [liiona] How many members of 1/6 are incarnate vs. discarnate or cycled off? Any geographic concentrations? What do we “integrate?” What is our theme? [Michael_Entity] Cadre One, Entity Six has approximately 440 incarnated. There is a high concentration in the United States, along both coasts and what is the southern border of the country. There are approximately 262 discarnate, while approximately 372 are cycled off. The theme of Integration revolves around being a “magnet” for fragments seeking a touchstone of sorts. Many from Entity Six act regularly as a pivotal force in many lives. They also draw together groups of people to fulfill Agreements with each other and make connections that otherwise would not have happened. Any Entity Six works within the spectrum from Harmony to Connection; the positive and negative poles. Harmony creates a “solid” world for all fragments involved, while Connection simply joins fragments. Neither are good or bad, but merely the spectrum of the themes explored. We will conclude here. Goodnight.
[Excerpt from Michael Speaks: January 2001] [Barb] Good evening, Michael. I realize you are not a “Psychic Eye” per se, but can you give us any probabilities as to what the next four years hold in store for the United States under the leadership of our next president, George W. Bush? [Michael_Entity] We do not believe this fragment will remain in a position long enough to warrant a look into the next four years. The percentages are quite high for this fragment to leave his position in a rather dramatic fashion. He only wanted the experience of “winning” and living up to his own Family Ikon. This is ecstasy for that fragment and the responsibilities that go with remaining in the position are far too overwhelming. This is one of your major shifts in Power that will be scrutinized. Especially after the apparent fiasco around the process of getting this fragment to that position in the first place. The next four years, though, will be focused on themes instilling a new consciousness around CHOICE. Your election was one of the first “lessons” around this Century of Choice and the ramifications of choice being interfered with or not enforced. A new “60's” mentality appears to be on the horizon with greater numbers in protest and “raising their voices.” It is safe to say that the Mature Soul consciousness is well under way on your planet.
[Excerpt from Michael Speaks: December 1999] [Note: Otterly = Troy Tolley, the channel] [Mary936] Could you give the Role and Soul age of the four major presidential candidates: George W Bush, John McCain, Al Gore, and Bill Bradley? Hope this is not too off topic. [Michael_Entity] George: Scholar/Sage; Early Mature John: Sage/Scholar: Late Young Al: Scholar/Sage: Early Old Bill: Sage/Priest: Early Mature We will offer a disclaimer here as this forum is not conducive to receiving Overleaves. We will give these to Otterly independent of the chat session so as to clarify. Especially considering the end of a lengthy session online. [Note: These did change with time. GLB]
December 9, 1999 Troy Tolley, Channel Open Floor [Michael_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. One moment. We realize in our Energy Reports we have been sharing more than the usual amount of information. We do this at the request of the channel, Otterly [aka Troy Tolley], not as a means to impose lessons upon you. We do however feel the ability to apply the information we share is sometimes overlooked in the eagerness to “learn more”. In the Western culture, particularly, you have been heavily imprinted with the need for “more information” without the application of it. This is still a valid path, and one that yields great amounts of insight for many, but we raise this point as a means to offer reflection. We have no investments in how the information is applied or not applied, we simply answer your questions as we perceive. We see many of the students in states of satiation, filled with theory, yet having no means to funnel the information in a meaningful way. Many of you found this teaching meaningful precisely for its potential application. It is for this reason that Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] asks for insights into the dynamics of the Overleaves and Personality as you approach certain phenomenon in your lives. If it is your choice to utilize the information to that degree, then the information is here. With that said, we will take any questions as they might pertain to the Energy Report. [Mary936] Could you tell us more about what the Global Nexus means for Earth and for us? [Michael_Entity] A Global Nexus occurs every year. It is not unusual in itself. This particular Nexus and the next one in 2000 are highly emphasized due to the psychological symbols associated with it. This Nexus will affect Baby Souls the most as old ideas about “Christ's return” comes into question. With the high influx of Mature Soul consciousness, Young and Baby Souls will begin to feel the impact. Those in positions of authority in the church and in politics will be guided by new parameters and concerns. Regardless of Soul Age, all fragments are beginning to feel the intense impact of a new context for your planet. The “drama” of this Nexus, especially with the impending “Y2K” impact, will be one more intense cementing of the Mature Soul challenges permeating society and its people. For once, the planet is looking up, attentive, at nearly the “same time”. In other words, this will be one Nexus that implies in the most deeply moving of ways, that you all need each other; especially if the “lights go out”. For some of you who scoff at the prospect of Y2K problems, you are still reviewing your “what if's”. Those who do not work within the parameter of Mature Soul grouping will be glaringly obvious as they lash out in the New Year. You can see the beginnings of this anyway, as each person in their life sees the media’s portrayal of life “out there” as scary and unpredictable, lending a sense of appreciation for what is trusted in your closest circles. This then is the single most meaningful aspect of this Nexus all across the board. It will bring, if it hasn't already in its unfolding, a clarity of what is true in terms of the “higher” aspects of your living. Everything is being “reset”. Because of the psychological symbolism being attributed to this Nexus (and the new year), most are taking this opportunity as a way to start anew on all levels. As we stated in the Energy Report, look to your own “symptoms” to see if there are any messages for you. We can go on, but we will pause here. Is this offering some insight into the process? [Mary936] My “symptoms” were feeling happy and in tune, so I just felt fortunate. It may be hardest for Baby Souls. [suzee] I am in the midst of resetting my life beginning with my relationships…so absolutely. [Michael_Entity] Yes, though we covered the more uncomfortable symptoms, the feelings of synchronicity and joy are too, symptoms and messages. Most of you have started SOMETHING “new” that has some major significance in where you are “going”. This is part of your Nexus. Any comments can be shared here. We will take Terri's question after some comments, if there are any. [TCB]: There are three parts to the instinctive center, is this correct? Could you talk a little bit about how this nexus, and the various higher centers, may be affecting the 3 parts (physical body preservation, past life memory, and I forget the last part at the moment, sorry) of the instinctive center at this time? ... Oops sorry (Damn impatience!) [Lights_Edge] I definitely can relate to the new and identify with coming to know what is true for me. [Michael_Entity] If there are no comments, we will address Terri's question. [Hestiabastet] We have been finding ourselves in the middle of creating a lot of changes in our perceptions of our life, both present and future..:) [Michael_Entity] In response to Terri: All of the Instinctive is up for review. Not in the usual sense of tediousness, but more of an “overhaul”. Some of you are literally “purging” your systems. We would say that is most true for those of you having physical symptoms. Some of you are “upgrading” your systems. We would say this is true for those of you having confusion and overwhelm, disorientation. Some of you are “integrating” your systems. This might be true for those with anger and hypersensitivity. The Moving, Intellectual, and Emotional parts, respectively. [TCB] Is it kind of like a ‘distillation process the, finally coming down to “Whats True” for each of us then? [Michael_Entity] In each of these cases, it relates to the Instinctive Center, and these “three parts” Terri speaks of (each, of course, relating to preservation: physical, intellectual, and emotional respectively). In many of your cases, your “preservations” are outdated. They have carried over from lifetime to lifetime over many eons as the world took particular paths. They were held in anticipation of certain world truths. As this Nexus unfolds and more of what is “true” for the world in the new year becomes evident, you will settle into a pattern that moves the planet forward as collectively agreed upon. A Global Nexus at a millennium cross point REQUIRES all who are choosing to incarnate within the next 1000 years to converge on some basic principles for the “game”. So, yes, in answer to your question, ‘coming down to what is true’. [TCB] So we are “updating” our instinctive center ‘preservation of the species’ programs’….in a sense? [Michael_Entity] Yes, Terri, a valid image indeed. [TCB] Not to take up the whole floor, just trying to clarify a bit. Okay, Thank you Michael. (and Ott.) [Michael_Entity] When we move to OPEN FLOOR tonight, Otterly asks that questions do not move into exclusivity in terms of personal issues. If you choose to ask questions, have them capable of applying to all involved if possible. We will now move to OPEN FLOOR. We will continue until 11:15 EST. [MaryBV] Ott has suggested that we group together in small groups to work in 2000. Can Michael suggest which people might work better together? [Michael_Entity] We are unfamiliar with Otterly's suggestion. We would need some clarification. [MaryBV] Uh, Ott has suggested groups of 6 with Ott being the seventh to work together. To do advance studies together. [Michael_Entity] Yes, this seems to be a number conducive to learning in groups wishing to utilize information for growth and application. In answer to your question, we see all of you capable of being “grouped” with success. For refinement of that, we suggest you trust your intuition and feelings of resonance. We would also suggest considering the themes wishing to be covered. This is not an attempt at humour, but if the structures of your Cadres and Entities can be managed, your study groups can be as easily. [Shannon] Do all of us, who here call ourselves your “students”, have specific Agreements with you for information (or channeling)? And is this why your teachings resonate for us, and not for others with whom we might try to share your teachings? [Michael_Entity] Yes. This is valid. We are not “the” teaching. We are merely “one” perception of this Universe's patterns. For some, our teaching and insight will never be true. It is possible to die a 7th Level Old Soul, final life, and be a devout Christian or Baptist. Only the Essence determines the rate of evolution by its own standards. The only standards that are “universally true” are in the continually encompassing contexts for truth, love, and beauty (organized as Soul Ages in our teaching). Not all here are technically our ‘students’, but all here are seeking and living their paths to what they might call “home”. [Lights_Edge] I have been playing the idea that to truly understand you are the creator of your own reality you have to being accepting the responsibilities you have abdicated in the past to others. Can you comment on this idea and if it is valid in anyway? [Michael_Entity] If in “accepting responsibilities” you mean impose self-guilt and judgment, it is not valid, but a trick of the Chief feature. If in “accept responsibility” you mean to apply comprehension of your consciousness at the time (your past) as innocent, then yes, it is valid. We are using “valid” here as a means to differentiate fearful courses versus loving courses. You may choose any method of “accepting responsibility” that makes sense to you. If that does not work, in some “future” reference, you can even then “look back” at your innocence, and offer love. We are using “innocence” here as indicative of your evolution. Though time and linear reality does not exist to the Essence, it is quite valid and real to the Personality. To strip it of that tool is to remove its power. In recognizing your evolution within the lifetime, releasing guilt, self-judgment, and regret, is to acknowledge your past as having “not been in vain”. In other words, why remove the impact of a lesson chosen or experience processed, only to be replaced with inertia, sentimentality, or other fear? It is your life. We would say the single most important “mantra” that can be said without too much distortion of implication is to say that you “own it”, but let that ownership mean you built on it, not deconstructed it. This comes as suggestion in response to your query, not as instruction. You may deal with your pasts in any way you choose, of course. [TCB] Is it ‘true’ that most fragments who choose to make channeling agreements with you Michael, work with one or more fragments of your entity? As opposed say, to ‘tapping’ directly into the WHOLE entity consciousness? In other words, do we have certain M. entity fragments ‘assigned’ to work with different ‘mediums’? [Michael_Entity] Yes, this is true for many we work with. This does not mean it is true for us. The Personality for some involved with us requires a sense of personification. We have allowed ourselves to be called “sun gods” in Delphi, we also allow more modern distortions. This colors the channeling to a degree, but many factors do besides this, so it is moot. [ludmila] Do you mean at the Temple of Apollo? [Michael_Entity] We worked primarily in the Oracles of Delphi at the time, yes. We will elaborate on this another day, if more history is sought. [Lights_Edge] For clarification on my earlier question… Can you give an example of approach from a “loving course” and one from a “fearful course”. [Michael_Entity] A “loving course” is to acknowledge the symptoms showing as regret, sorrow, distraction, and grief, as valid forms of processing first. From there, many continue to impose the process rather than move forward. It is taught to many of you that in light of realization, punishment must follow. This is a construct that is a “fearful course”. Realization and heightened consciousness need not be forever laced with these symptoms. Self-punishment, in all of its costumes, was always someone else's ideas clashing with your own truths. This is true in all cases of self-punishment. Choosing to see your past in its true innocence, is a “loving course”. Choosing to see your past as “mistakes”, is not. Do you understand our differentiation? [Lights_Edge] I believe so… [Michael_Entity] If further elaboration is required, we will work with you independently. Thanks Michael. That would help. [Mary936] Could you give the Role and Soul age of the four major presidential candidates: George W Bush, John McCain, Al Gore, and Bill Bradley? Hope this is not too off topic. [Michael_Entity] George: Scholar/Sage; Early Mature John: Sage/Scholar: Late Young Al: Scholar/Sage: Early Old Bill: Sage/Priest: Early Mature We will offer a disclaimer here as this forum is not conducive to receiving Overleaves. We will give these to Otterly independent of the chat session so as to clarify. Especially considering the end of a lengthy session online. [bcwatson] Can you tell us why NASA keeps losing very expensive space vehicles trying to study Mars? Is there something going on that we humans don't know about? [Michael_Entity] Human consciousness, collectively, have agreed that outer space exploration, however intriguing, is simply not the priority. Many on your planet have determined that the Earth they live on must be tended to first. This creates great challenges for any off-planet travels. It has been this way since the late 80's. The Harmonic Convergence (as it was called) created this limitation. It is a valid and “responsible” approach to your future as a maturing species. [bcwatson] So the planet is more than a place for us to live on while we learn. It is also a lesson about taking care of our planet that we need to learn? [Michael_Entity] Yes, as your species matures, the devic forces and hive souls discontinue their participation. It is then the sentient species' responsibility to steward the life forces. This can be seen in any individual life as well. As you mature, the sense of “being taken care of” tends to leave. This is part of “growing up”. It is the same for an entire species and planetary evolution. [bcwatson] What does Michael see as the first thing, the most important thing we as humans need to correct as far as taking care of the earth… [Michael_Entity] The plants and animals will not miraculously survive all that it is subjected to as over the past 6 million years or so. They will require your participation in their sustenance and insurance. We have always seen overpopulation as your highest priority for management. We will conclude here. Goodnight.