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OMW - Apr 3, 2011 - Personality Pathways Channel: Troy Tolley MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here now. We will share with you some insights about using the Personality Overleaves in a way that may make them more useful and applicable when examining behavior patterns and shared dynamics between yourself and others. What we will begin with then is how your Personality was "designed" in the first place by your Essence. The process of creating a Personality evolves over lifetimes, but begins in the Infant Soul Age as "throwing together" anything that is more compatible with the defaults of the Essence Design already chosen. For instance, a higher "Female" Energy fragment would tend toward beginning lifetimes, literally, in a female body. The higher female and higher frequency Overleaves tend to be the Exalted Overleaves, and the higher male and lower frequency Overleaves tend to be the Ordinal Overleaves. Depending on the combination of Essence Role, Frequency, and Energy Ratio, your "defaults" would be determined. If there are extremes in that Essence design, then the Assimilative Overleaves come in handy. Over lifetimes, this process becomes far more comprehensive because there is more information and experience to consider in the making of a Personality. Over lifetimes, this process becomes far more comprehensive because Essence begins to define certain patterns of exploration and interests, not only based upon its accumulation of experiences gathered through the Personalities, but because there are certain "wishes" to fulfill for some Personalities. This process also becomes far more comprehensive because the positions within the Entity become fleshed out, so to speak, and the contributions to the Entity become important as an intention, rather than as a byproduct. Over the course of lifetimes and Soul Ages, the "core" of Personality will shift. The "core" of a Personality can always be any Overleaf, but there does tend to be a consistency in what is the core relative to Soul Ages. The core of a Personality can be the Goal, Mode, Attitude, or Body Type. By "core," we mean it tends to be the leading Overleaf for that Personality around which all other Overleaves become dependent. The core is what "feeds" the other Overleaves, if you will; the hub around which the other Overleaves revolve or extend. As the soul grows older, its choice of core becomes far more flexible, but the consistency is still set enough to consider it worth knowing the correlations. The MODE is the core of most Infant Souls; the ATTITUDE is the core for most Baby and Old Souls; the GOAL for most Young Souls; and the BODY TYPE (and by extension, Centering) for most Mature Souls. The Mode, by the way is usually the Core for most fragments who host Transcendental Souls, while the Goal is the Core for most fragments who host the Infinite Souls. We will pass over the "reasons" for all of this for now so as to get to the more applicable information, but can discuss the details as time permits. For most Old Souls, the core then is the Attitude. Keeping in mind that what we say for the Old Soul can be applied to the other Soul Ages and their corresponding Cores, we will elaborate. We have said before, without this background elaboration, that the Attitude is the core of the Personality, and for the Attitude to fall into the Negative Poles means that the Chief Features are far more likely to come forth, and the other Overleaves are most likely functioning from the Negative Poles. To bring the Personality from a state of Falseness and into a state of Trueness, the Attitude would have to be moved back into its Positive Pole, which would then feed into the rest of the Personality, in a kind of cascading effect, giving rise to the Positive Poles in the other parts of their Personality. While it is always helpful to understand the Poles for each Overleaf, and how to bring each into the Positive Pole if necessary, the "short cut" is always through the movement of the Attitude back into its Positive Pole, particularly for the Baby and Old Souls. Unless, of course, your Personality is an anomaly among the tendencies. Understanding your Core means understanding your primary platform or navigational tool for living the life. For those who have the Attitude as the Core, it would mean that the life is primarily built upon philosophical platforms, and navigation is done through how experiences, people, and events align with or conflict with your Attitude/Philosophy. For the Baby Souls, this tends toward like-mindedness and absolutes, whereas the Old Soul tends toward challenges and flexibilities. The "manifested" Soul Age can tend to throw the emphasis of a Personality into a different Core, which is part of the process toward wholeness in the Internal Monads; aligning oneself back to one's core. Before we continue into more details, we will take a few questions regarding what has been shared so far, if there are any. QUEUE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS [Oscar] you mentioned "...the positions within the Entity become fleshed out, so to speak, and the contributions to the Entity become important as an intention...", would you elaborate on how that works exactly and how that works for wild cards? MEntity: The Positions within the Entity are chosen by Essence (and to say "within" is not quite a literal term, by the way), and along with those Positions come general functions for the entity. Those general functions are a learned process, and not something that just happens because of a positioning. We will share an analogy: Imagine a bus load of fragments who have discussed along the way what each is excited about, afraid of, worried about, and feels strongly about experiencing at the amusement park toward which they are headed. Everyone has chosen a "seat" in the bus that corresponds to what each has already decided fits what it thinks he would be interested in, and good at, collecting for the bus load of friends. These positions are based on uncountable cycles of the universe and the capturing of various universal experiences relative to incarnational cycles. But for the sake of simplicity and our amusement park analogy, we will say that one fragment has decided he is in charge of collecting memorabilia, and another is in charge of taking polls, and another is in charge of sampling foods, etc. Every other fragment will also collect memorabilia, take polls, and sample foods, but this particular fragment in this chosen Position will be the one to which the other fragments "report" their experiences, and that particular fragment may have a theme with an emphasis on his function. By "fleshed out," we meant that each fragment then decides and learns how it best handles their function. Some will collect from the other fragments and update records for the entity only between lives; others will seek to find those who are focusing on experiences that are relevant to his function during the lifetime and create a stream of updating via various methods (dreams, meditation, daydreaming, etc). Some will find ways of organizing the data, while others will "pile it up," etc. Eventually, each position will bring his function/records from the park and back onto the bus, and then the process of organizing ALL of that begins. The "wild cards" tend to have between 2 to 7 functions/positions within the entity, with an emphasis on one of them. The task for the wild card then is to create its own system for managing these additional functions/positions, and this can tend to get rather chaotic in the earlier soul ages, and come together in the later soul ages. Wild Cards, ironically, become some of the most-focused, streamlined, and tunnel-visioned of all fragments in the entity during the older soul ages. [TimW] What is the best way to validate where one's "core" focus is? For instance, if my attitude is spiritualist (which I'm still seeking to validate), how would this look different if it is the core focus from when it is not? MEntity: The first consideration for validation would be in terms of how the life is being "built." Regardless of all of the nuances, is the life being built from your Ambitions (goals), your Philosophies (attitudes), your Relationships (modes), or your Behavior (body types). All of these will be involved, of course, and depending on various contexts and where one is with the Internal Monads, any could be emphasized, but there would tend to be an underlying, obvious theme for those who are self-observant. Where you life is RIGHT NOW gives one an idea about the core that it has been built from. Is it primarily actively ambitious, primarily philosophical, primarily relationships, primarily behavioral (empathic, assimilative). We are not finding the "right word" for the Mature Soul core as it relates to the Body Type, but we will eventually get that through. For now, we will refer to it as Behavioral, as this is how we will umbrella the concept of assimilating empathy. To put all of this another way: what matters MOST to you on a more regular and private basis? the accomplishments of the life; the interpretations of life; the relationships of life; or the way life treats you and you treat life? The answer for most of you will be that all of these matter, because you are Older souls, but there is one that should stand out as the most obvious and consistent, especially in your private navigations. The core then is around which all of the others revolve. For most Old Souls, the way life is interpreted is the core, and then relationships, ambitions, and behaviors revolve around that. As we are sharing new information through our channel, we ask now if this is making sense to you? [ClaireC] Could you elaborate on "manifested soul age can tend to throw the emphasis of a Personality into a different core"? MEntity: Over the course of a lifetime, the emphasis of core will evolve, eventually to align with the true core. This process of alignment is the same process for manifesting Essence, or True Personality. If one is in his teens and working through the 3rd Internal Monad, his emphasis of core may have his Goal of the Personality leading him. Everything, then, would be a matter of whether he is accomplishing that Goal, or taking on the challenges relative to that Goal. However, if he is an Old Soul, he would eventually find his Attitude a far more comfortable Core for leading the life, and calibrate the Personality around that Overleaf at some point. Until then, there may be a sense of being skewed, unsettled, restless, etc. because the emphasized core is not the true core. The process of returning to one's core is a natural process, and that process is not one that should be considered necessary to find shortcuts or that there is a standard speed. That process is simply "growing up," if you will. However, the older one gets in physical and psychological age, the more that gap between the emphasized core and the true core can become, and this can become problematic. If your true core is the Attitude because you are an Old Soul, yet you have emphasized the Body Type core (manifesting Mature) or the Goal core (manifesting Young), and you are in your 50's, it can become painful and internally/externally isolating. However, there are flexibilities in the Personality that emphasize the various Overleaves, and this is a healthy functioning of the Personality that does not shift its core. We will speak of this in a moment. When we speak of someone's "manifested" soul age, we are referring to a sustained emphasis, and not just a flexibility of focus for various contexts. So the farther away from ones technical soul age one is "manifesting," the farther away one may be from his core, as well, and the less comfortable and aligned within and without one might feel. We will continue with the topic now. Over the course of lifetimes, your Essence creates your Personalities with more information, experience, and intentions, and that is reflected in the choice of what Core Overleaf is first chosen. In that process, the Core Overleaf becomes the "spokesperson," if you will, for the rest of the design of the Personality. This may be difficult to imagine, and we are limited by analogies here, but we will try to convey the process. Essence would choose the Attitude, first, for example, and so it is that the Spiritualist, for example, is then informed by Essence as to what the plans and intentions and Karma etc. are for the life ahead. The feedback from the Spiritualist is then considered for which Overleaf is chosen next. This naturally changes the Personality immediately, and that combination now chooses the next Overleaf. This second Overleaf chosen is the Support Overleaf. The third Overleaf is the Seed Overleaf. The fourth Overleaf is the Navigational Overleaf. As this is new information for our channel, other terms could be used, such as the Correctional or Calibrational Overleaf. The Support Overleaf does whatever the Core Overleaf leads into and adds to its emphasis, and generally supports the entire Personality. An example: a Spiritualist interprets life as a spectrum of Possibilities, and in its positive pole will Investigate those Possibilities; if that person has his Goal of Acceptance as a Support Overleaf, then the Positive Pole of Agape would embrace whatever opportunity/possibility comes forth from the life. If that same Spiritualist is in the Negative Pole and goes forward into experiences with unquestioned Beliefs, then Acceptance would support this with an inclination for Ingratiation, or doing what is felt to be necessary for accepting/being accepted. The Seed Overleaf is that Overleaf through which all experiences are then funneled into tangibility. For instance, then, the Spiritualist with a Goal of Acceptance has his Seed Overleaf as the Mode of Observation. This would translate into the life primarily being built from philosophies and perspectives, or the interpretation of life, and then supported by the accomplishments or actions of the Goal, and then manifested or played out in Relationships. In other words, the results of the efforts of the Core and its Support could be checked against how well Relationships are going, and what is going on in them, the health of those relationships, etc. In this case, if the Core and Support are in the Negative Poles, then the Relationships/Mode may very well be, as well, and Relationships may be experienced as having a sense of isolation, lack, distance, ineffectiveness, etc. as Observation is in Surveillance, or watching, but not living. In this case, the Calibration Overleaf would be the Body Type, and it could be that the health becomes a factor in how one processes, removes, or corrects the events, situations, or relationships, etc. In the example above, it might be that the Body Type that manages the health of the body is Venusian, and if the Core, Support, and Seed are in the Negative Poles, then the health may fall into "sloppiness," or a rather chaotic collapse that forces attention to it as a means for correction, removal, or full processing. We would like to check in here to see if we are conveying this information clearly enough. Is this pattern of the Personality making sense so far? [TimW] yes, thank you [Jill] yes [Oscar] yes [Mstudent_al] yes, very [Maureen] yes - but complex MEntity: We will continue, then. [ClaireC] yes, very much so MEntity: As each of you experience your life, you will have these patterns of Personality that are core patterns, but there will be certain contexts that require flexibilities, and while this will never usurp your core patterns, the flexibility comes in handy for new experiences. The Overleaf that takes the lead in projects and when working with others sharing an intention that seeks tangibility is the GOAL. The Overleaf that takes the lead in social situations and especially when first introducing yourselves is the ATTITUDE. The Overleaf that takes the lead in relationships and especially when the intention is intimacy (and not limited to romantic intimacy, of course) is the MODE. The Overleaf that takes the lead in bonding and creating common grounds through which experiences can be mutually shared is the Body Type. Understanding these various contexts of emphasis can help in these various contexts. Knowing that upon first meeting someone, regardless of his or her Core, you will most likely share your own, and "meet" his or her, Attitude, first, can be enlightening. Knowing that it might take up to three exchanges for the Modes to become involved can be helpful for when it seems that you and the other person suddenly begin revealing a different level or facet of yourselves. Knowing that your Attitudes and Modes may have to be set aside for a project and that your innate skills as relative to your own GOAL are most necessary for that project can help one to not take things personally and to focus on the tasks at hand. Knowing that being around each other in shared physical space, and how that is played out, is a vital factor in how well you can share common ground and process experiences together can be quite helpful. We will refer to these as Contextual Cores. These do not lead to patterns within, as the Core Pattern cannot be usurped, but the Contextual Core would be the part of your Core Pattern that is shared with others. For instance, if someone's Core Pattern is Attitude, Goal, Mode, Body Type, and he is in a project-oriented context, bringing forth the Contextual Core of his Goal, he will still first have chosen this project because of his Core Philosophy, and this project must in some way support that. [Oscar] Could you give the Core Pattern for each of us (Core, Support, Seed, Calibrational/Navigational Overleaves)? MEntity: Before we would share with any of you a Core Pattern based upon our interpretation of you, we would first encourage each of you to assess this for yourself. We can say that for most Old Souls, the Core Pattern tends to be Attitude, Goal, Mode, Body Type, but that is a tendency, not a standard. For Mature Souls, the Core Pattern tends to be Body Type, Mode, Goal, Attitude. For Young Souls: Goal, Mode, Body Type, Attitude. For Baby Souls, Attitude, Modes, Goals, Body Types. For Infant Souls, Mode, Attitude, Body Types, Goals. These, again, are tendencies, and not standards. All of this information shared today would require another round of discussion for elaboration, but this is a start. To help you in assessing your Core Pattern, we will offer a kind of phrase that may help: My life is built and shaped around/by my A) Philosophies/Perspectives, B) Ambitions/Pursuits, C) Relationships/Intimacies, or D) Behaviors and Health, which is supported by or challenged by my A) Philosophies/Perspectives, B) Ambitions/Pursuits, C) Relationships/Intimacies, or D) Behaviors and Health,.... and plays out most obviously in my A) Philosophies/Perspectives, B) Ambitions/Pursuits, C) Relationships/Intimacies, or D) Behaviors and Health, and is sometimes/often corrected by, processed by, or altered by my A) Philosophies/Perspectives, B) Ambitions/Pursuits, C) Relationships/Intimacies, or D) Behaviors and Health. Using that crude phrasing, each of you might be able to share what you feel is your Core Pathway as you understand it currently. To make it easier, you can simply post the lettering associated with the various components. [Maureen] So the 'arrangement' of your Core 'package' would account for the order of what is 'cascaded' when one brings back their True Personality from their False? For example: A/B/C/D [TimW] I'm thinking mine: A/D/C/B MEntity: Yes, Maureen. [Elaine] acbd [Oscar] A/D/B/C [Martha] A/B/C/D? MEntity: For instance, if one has a pattern of A, B, C, D, and it has come to a place where the body's health (d) is reflecting the states of A, B, C, then the process of healing would begin with the Attitude, and then the Goal, and then the Relationships, before the body might show obvious recovery. This would not be the case in every blip of illness, but for those that alter the life in some way. [Maureen] I think I'm standard ~ A/B/C/D [Jill] ACDB [ClaireC] *A/D/C/B ? [Elaine] I am unsure about if I'm ACBD or ACDB MEntity: If you would like to be clearer, translate your post into more relevant correspondences: A = A (attitude), B = G (goal), C = M (mode) D = B (body type). So your pattern may be A, G, M, B in this case. Now that you have this information, you may take it and use it over your next week or so as you observe the patterns of your life, and see if your first assessment is still accurate. [Mstudent_al] I think i'm AGMB; B in behavior more then health MEntity: The information shared here is to allow for you to do the "work" part of "workshop." There is far more to this information that is available for elaboration, such as a more comprehensive definition of Core, Support, Seed, and Calibration Overleaves, as well as what it would mean for the Goal, Mode, Attitude, or Body Type to be in those positions. In addition to the elaborations, we will also mention that one's Core Pattern affects how one provokes or is provoked by another fragment's Core Pattern, and we can share more on that, later. Understanding your Core Pattern can help you to see the hows, whys, and whats of your experiences so that you can more effectively determine how, why, and what you experience. [Elaine] Karoliina received the following information regarding the process of solidifying of overleaves during 2nd IM. "During the 2nd Internal Monad, the first of the Overleaves will begin to manifest, and this will set the stage for the general arc of the entire lifetime. For instance, if the Attitude sets first, then the life would take on a more philosophical or Intellectual tone; whereas if the Mode is activated, then the life may bring more emphasis to the themes of relationships and intimacy, while the Goal would bring a life focused more on the gaining of experiences for the point of that Goal." Would that be different or connected to the core overleaf? Would the overleaf that manifests first during the 2nd IM always be the core overleaf, or not necessarily? MEntity: What you quoted from us is an elaboration without the context that we were able to share with you today. During the 2nd Internal Monad, the Core Pattern begins its arc of manifestation through the Personality, which may or may not set the stage for a challenging lifetime. If the Core Pattern is A/G/M/B, and the pattern initiates as G, then this becomes part of the process of the 3rd and 4th Internal Monad for alignment with the Core. [Elaine] So it is the core pattern which would manifest first during the 2nd internal monad? MEntity: ANY pattern can initially manifest, but it may not be aligned with the Core Pattern already in place; however, for the older souls, the Core is usually manifested during that time as it is already set. This is why it becomes a far more comprehensive project in designing and planning the lifetime the older the soul gets, because imprinting and too many random factors can affect the development of the Personality in ways that can be very difficult to recover from. But there are always parallel versions of the Personality that may do better than others, in terms of aligning with its Core Pattern. The farther the Personality from its Core, the less the Essence is allowed into the life, and Essence must "wait" until the life is over for the experiences to be collected from that Personality. [Oscar] You mentioned: "a Spiritualist interprets life as a spectrum of Possibilities." How do the other Attitudes interpret life? MEntity: The Spiritualist might be best understood as interpreting life as if he has never seen it before; the Stoic interprets life as if he has seen it all before; the Skeptic interprets life as if it can all be disproven; the Idealist interprets life as if it can all be improved; the Cynic interprets life the opposite of what it appears to be; the Realist interprets life as it appears to be; the Pragmatist will use whatever interpretation is most effective (or dogmatic). [Maureen] Is the pattern always the same - forwards and backwards - from False back to True and so on...i.e. A/M/G/B towards True and then B/G/M/A towards False? Is it that predictable? MEntity: Think of the Core Pattern in the same way that body, itself, processes life: food must be taken in and moves through a pattern before releasing what is not of use. So the Core Pattern is just as static, in terms of how it best functions for Essence to manifest. However, as with even the Physical Body, the process does not have to be entirely static, but those times when it is not, the alteration is usually to accommodate an extreme scenario, such as one who may have to have food provided intravenously instead of through chewing. One's Core Pattern is how one naturally uses the Personality for the processing of Life, and using the Personality in its inherent pattern frees it for manifestation of Essence, but only if it chooses to use this inherent pattern. No Personality is required to do so, and its happiness or lack thereof is not dependent upon it; it just tends to be "easier" when allowed. Ironically, it is far more effort to override the Core Pattern than it is to use it, but many people choose to create from themselves someone else' idea about who they should be, rather than naturally being who they are. To fall back into the Core Pattern is a great relief for the bank of energy each of you have for use in a lifetime, which is a finite amount of energy, by the way. If 40% of your energy is being used to sustain someone else' idea of who you should be, this is 40% of your energy that is not being used for creating/nurturing what it is you truly desire. To be more specific in response to your question, it is only the Core that is necessary for concern when focusing on bringing the Personality back into True Personality. So if the Personality's Core is the Attitude, then to focus on bringing the Attitude back into the Positive Pole would naturally cascade through the rest of the Pattern. There is not a real "pattern" for manifesting False Personality, except in that the predominance of Negative Poles describes the degree to which one is manifesting the False Personality. And if there is a pattern, it would tend to be that if the Core is the Attitude, and it falls into the Negative Pole, it would then cascade through the rest of the Core Pattern. The Pathways tend to be unidirectional, and tend to start with the Core, but because they are connected like electrical pathways, the "currents," technically, could travel in either direction in effect. The same could be said of the pathways of the body: inserting something into the anus can cause the mouth to respond. We will conclude here with you today.
Janet posted a topic in 2011 Michael SpeaksMichael Speaks Live Chat Sunday, November 13, 2011 Troy Tolley, Channel The 7 Planes of Existence MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here now. We will share with you on the requested topic: The 7 Planes of Existence. We know that most of you are familiar with the 7 Planes as they have been described in our teaching, and are familiar to many teachings, even if in slight variation and understanding. Those 7 Planes are: Physical, Astral, Causal, Akashic, Mental, Messianic, and Buddhic (or Buddhaic). Each Plane is a Plane of Existence, and is a definite medium for consciousness to explore, learn, and evolve. These Planes exist one within the other, and overlap to some extent, with the Physical Plane being "in the center" and the densest, and the Buddhic being the outermost existence that permeates all Planes within it. It is often easier to imagine this as spheres within spheres. All 7 of these Planes ARE Tao. It is often described as Tao encompassing these 7 Planes, and that would be fair to say, but technically, Tao IS those 7 Planes. The whole that is greater than the sum of the parts, if you will. As you will see from our sharing of details about these Planes and their design, there will be a micro and macrocosmic consistency. Keep in mind that when we use the term "consciousness," it is often inclusive of all forms of consciousness, and not specific to Sentience. In other words, consciousness exists in a multitude of forms in your Physical Plane and in other planes. Rocks have a form of consciousness that is just as valid as Sentience. There are many lines of evolution of consciousness, and not all of them are Sentient. The greatest difference between Sentient and non-sentient consciousness is in terms of the extent of fragmentation and "direction" that the consciousness is actively moving. Sentience tends to be the most individualized of consciousness (most fragmented), generating within that consciousness a profound desire for return to Tao, or Oneness. Therefore, Sentient Consciousness is "on its way back" to Tao, and most other forms of non-sentient consciousness do not require such passages; non-sentience can be "absorbed" immediately back into Tao, if you will, and does not necessarily evolve. Sentience evolves. In other words, Sentience is the furthest and farthest one can get from Tao in terms of fragmentation. The return "home," then, for Sentience, is a long journey by most standards of measurement. Passage through these Planes of Existence are passages of reunion and union. It could be said, then, that the 7 Planes are the 7 Levels of Tao, as Tao evolves in its own way precisely through the collection of experiences gained through these fragments. Once one has become a Fragment, regardless of the return to Tao and the profound oneness that this entails, that unit of consciousness is its own thing "forever." Drops of water in an ocean who leave no boundaries between themselves and ocean, or each other, but existing as an identifiable unit of consciousness now. This is how "Grand Cycles" can happen. A Grand Cycle is a single journey of separation from Tao, incarnation through a species, and the subsequent return through the 7 Planes. Though we would have a difficult time describing this in terms of physics, each Plane is merely a variation of vibration of energy that is consistent among all Planes. Because of its vibrational state, it is "separate" enough that it exists as its own state. This would be similar to how ice, water, and steam could exist as the same, but different. For simplicity's sake, we can say that all Planes are made of Matter (Energy), and each Plane is a variation on Matter. The combination of what might be akin to molecules and how they function with one another generates each Plane. And differentiates each Plane. The consistency among all Planes is based on a set of physics that is reflected in the Physical Plane in many ways. Though there are a few places from which we could start, we will use your Carbon-base as the model. We will return to this reference to Carbon in a moment. First, we will state that every Planet has its own Physical, Astral, and Causal Plane. Particularly if there is Sentience evolving on that planet. Those Planes are variations on a theme, and each is mapped similarly. For the most part, these Ordinal Planes are themed in Densities, Tangibilities, and Identities. That is an oversimplification, but it is accurate. The Physical Plane is these themes in terms of Actions. The Astral is these themes in terms of Emotions. The Causal is these themes in terms of Intellect. The Akashic Plane is not a Plane in which any consciousness resides, but is a memory bank. Rather than passing through this Plane, it is central to both the Causal and Mental Planes' use for evolution. It could be said to be the ordinal version of Tao. The Mental Plane expands to encompass what we will describe as a Galaxy. A Galaxy would be a collection of 49 Planets of Sentience in proximity. The Messianic Plane expands to encompass what we will describe as a Galaxy Group, or 49 Galaxies that house Sentience. The Buddhic Plane is relative to a Galaxy Cluster, or 49 Galaxy Groups. Tao, then, could be said to be the Cosmos, or the manifest Universe. From what we have learned, there are boundaries on our Universe, as there are other Universes. We use "Universe" here in the sense of organized Planes for Sentient development, and not whimsically referencing different parallels or emotional perceptions. This is literal. We know that each Universe must be a closed "space," if you will, as the patterns that are generated indicate interference patterns, indicating reflection. The patterns are far too consistent not to indicate this, as far as we can see. Returning to Carbon as the building block, not only are forms within the Physical Plane relevant to the building blocks of Carbon, but so are all forms of consciousness born of, or returning to Tao through, Carbon. Much of our own Teaching reflects this, as we use the dodecaphonic scale, which is a musical counterpart of Carbon, for most aspects of our teaching. Our systems of 12, 7, and 9 (which are still systems of 12) are related to this dodecaphonic/carbon scale/ratio, and while there is not an obvious element of 5 in our teaching, it is built in on many levels, which we can expound upon at another time. For now, we will reference the 5 Soul Ages before cycling off, and what we refer to as Clusters (of lives) that are in groups of 5. These numbers will be relevant for building upon. We can return to them in further explorations with us. For now, we will return to the details of the Planes. The 7 Levels of the Physical Plane are the 7 Soul Ages: 5 of which are done before cycling off, and two of which are completed by returning as a reunited entity, and as a representative of Tao. All fragments will move through those 7 Levels of the Physical Plane (7 Soul Ages). There are 7 Levels of the Astral Plane, as well. As every Plane bleeds through, so to speak, to each bordering Plane, the 1st Level of the Astral could be said to be the Level of Imagination. This is from where each fragment accesses Imagination. At its best use, it is what you are familiar with in terms of "imagination," but it is also where those who induce altered states through drugs can tend to go, as well as where troubled Personalities can often bleed into, and where suicides are processed, and from where hauntings are sustained. It is the Level from which "heaven" and "hell" are generated, and other such nonsense. The 2nd Level of the Astral is where most go between lives, and when dreaming. The 3rd Level is where one resides when cycled off. It is also the level in which one will complete any Karma that did not require Physical incarnation. The Mid-Astral or 4th Level is what is accessed between lives by fragments as a means for planning and studying and review. Even if one is on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Levels, this 4th is accessed in ever more refined ways for the evolution of the Essence, and creation of a life. It is also from which one's guides tend to reside, and where your partially-reunited entity resides. Even if your guide is not cycled off, if acting as a guide, it is functioning through the use of this Level. Or, at least, trying to. The 5th Level is one of Comprehension, and it is where your Entity members work through full disclosure. Everything that was never known, kept secret, private, personal, for any Personality is now brought forth as the entity prepares for reunion. This is a chaotic and quite emotional process. The 6th Level is the Healing, or the actual Reunion process. Though the more chaotic aspects of reunion have been processed, this can actually be even more painful. The 7th Level then is the full union of the Entity, in terms of its Emotional intimacy. The 5th, 6th, and 7th Levels are the only levels that are free from living counterparts, or incarnating fragments. The first three can be accessed fairly easily by Personalities from the Physical Plane. The Causal Plane also has 7 Levels, but these become more difficult to clarify in terms that are easy to convey, as the linear aspect begins to break down, even as it does not. The Lower, or Ordinal, Causal Plane could be said to be a process of refining our ideas and ideals. Now that we have united emotionally, we then build a new identity from that. Though "identity" is a crude term in the context of the Causal Plane, it is still valid. This is because, even as we speak as one, we are well aware of our parts, and our differentiation from other entities on our Plane. We still experience a passage of time and space, though in vastly different ways from what is familiar to the Physical Plane, but still a passage, nonetheless. Over the course of the first three Levels, entities take different lines of evolution that are in groups: some of which are Guides, some of which are Teachers, some of which are Healers, some of which are Muses, and so on. We chose to Teach. The 4th Level, then, is from where every Entity of the Causal will put into effect its ideas and ideals, through Guiding, Teaching, Healing, Musing, etc. From this Level, we begin our direct access of the Akashic Plane. The Akashic exists within every Plane in some form. Even within the Physical Plane, the Instinctive Center is a line to the Akashic Plane, or a part of it. The high Causal Plane, then, is from where Transcendental Souls incarnate, or the 6th Soul Age. Transcendental Souls incarnate from the 5th, 6th, or 7th Levels of the Causal. Keep in mind that a Transcendental Soul is a single fragment incarnated as a representative of the collective knowledge of the Entity from the Causal. This incarnation is still subject to all of the scathing, distractions, and problems of being Human, however, but will have the entire Entity as direct support, if the Personality allows for it. There are many Transcendental Souls who incarnate who fail in that respect, though they certainly "have a good time." The Mental Plane is the exalted Causal Plane, where direct Intellectual contact is made with Tao. The Messianic Plane is the exalted Astral Plane, where direct Emotional contact is made with Tao. The Buddhic Plane is the exalted Physical Plane, where direct contact is made with Tao, or merging. Infinite Souls incarnate from one of these Planes, when incarnated, and bring the Logos of Truth, Love, or Energy, respectively. There are 7 Levels within each of these, but they are even more difficult to convey in any linear terms than the Causal Plane's Levels. It is easier to understand them in terms of Lower, Mid, and Higher. The Lower tend to be about introductions to that Plane, and a refining of focus, with the mid-plane being the implementation of that focus, and the higher being the comprehension of the results of all of that. We will pause now for your questions on this subject. We know this is a vast subject that can be difficult to package, but it is a subject that is relevant and can be comprehended. Question: How “fine” does this get -- Do the 7 Levels of each Soul Age relate in any way to the 7 Levels of Existence? MEntity: They are, all, related in some resonant way, or they could not build upon each other. It is all music. The 7 Internal Monads within the 7 Levels within the 7 Soul Ages within the 7 Planes. The 7 Levels of a Soul Age, can be understood when superimposing the 7 Planes as ways to understand those Levels. Comparing the Physical Plane to the 1st Level of a Soul Age can be helpful. Comparing the Astral Plane to the 2nd Level can be helpful. Comparing the Causal to the 3rd Level can be helpful. And so on. Keep in mind that there will be resonance, but not definition. In other words, clues and insights can be gained through these comparisons, but Soul Level is very different from Age, and Plane. Our system is designed for "mixing and matching" as a means to gain more insight. Question: Not to put too fine a point on the terminology that was developed today, but I would like a reiteration or confirmation that the use of the terms by you of Galaxy, Galaxy Cluster, or Tao as a Universe has little in common with our scientific astrophysics use of these terms and that further the use of Tao isn't equivalent to “All that is.” MEntity: There are some correlations. We think that some Astrophysicists are onto something in terms of organizing the universe. Consciousness equals Gravitation, to some extent. Consciousness is the gravitational force that holds together matter. Galaxies are grouped and clustered in terms of gravity and consciousness, and this is parallel to some working theories or observations. Comment: Except you define these by groups of 49 MEntity: So while we are not drawing direct parallels to the more mundane use of these terms, there are some similarities that are relevant. We think that some Astrophysicists choose the same number. Though we do not think it has become a standard. Question: So would our "Big Bang Theory" be an oversimplification of the Buddhaic Plane in action and is the theory even close to being accurate? MEntity: It is quite close, at least in terms of the fragmentation that then moved into forms. Though there are scientific details that will always be lacking in terms of describing or defining these origins, it works very well in symbolic ways. Question: How are suicides processed on the 1st level astral, and where do they go from there? [note corrected from 2nd Level to 1st Level] MEntity: They are processed in a multitude of ways that would be similar to experiencing dreams that play out all varieties of scenarios that help to comprehend the process of choices that led to the death, as well as an observation of all of the parallels remaining that are not dead. The Astral Plane is very similar to "Earth," or the Physical Plane, and feels very "real" on many levels, though it is far more malleable in terms of matter. Many who experience suicide then will start the entire life over on the Astral, playing out new choices. We designated Suicides to the 1st Level, but all fragments incarnating will move among the first three Levels during and between lives. Lives that do not end in Suicide tend to move directly into the 2nd, while Suicides tend to move into the 1st. Question: can they get stuck there, as well? MEntity: This is because of the attachment to the life. No fragment is ever "stuck," but depending upon the processes necessary for that Personality to heal, it can take quite some time. The reason for those who have exited using Suicide tending to remain in the 1st Level is because that is the easiest for those who were a part of that life, and who remain incarnated, to access that person. This helps contribute to the healing. Once the healing begins, the replaying of the life begins. This is a subject in itself, but that is the basic idea. Question: At 5th level Astral, is the anguish experienced more by the individual fragments as they are laid "naked and exposed" to the other members of the Entity, or by the other members of the Entity as they learn all there is to know of everyone else? Are there still harsh judgments to overcome at that stage of evolution? Also, it has been said that Priests "come into their own" on the Astral. Does this usually occur at this stage, helping themselves and others through the difficult 5th level and then healing in the 6th level? MEntity: The difficulty is experienced in both ways. It can be quite terrifying and painful to have everything revealed, and just as terrifying and painful to learn what one did not know while alive. This is especially difficult for those Personalities who were incarnations during the Baby and Young. The Mature and Old Souls eventually lose the interest in dishonesty, secrets, and privacy. The Personalities of Essence who were the most honest, vulnerable, and comfortable with exposure tend to work with those younger Personalities in resolving the shocking revelations. Every Personality of every lifetime is represented as its own identity and speaks for itself, so to speak. Comment: I wonder if this is then repeated at each merge after that MEntity: What you might experience as great halls are used for these processes, with all of the Personalities organized into tiers of emotional honesty for then working with mediating among all of those who had the most difficult times with those qualities. Comment: this sounds as much an intra-Essence process as inter-Essence. MEntity: It is often quite upsetting to find out that "best friend sally" had been exploiting you for access to your "loving husband bill" and that you knew none for the better. But all of you will know "everything" at some point. None of this is Karmic, but entirely focused on healing. In terms of Priests, they are the fragments who run these meetings, and help to direct the healing, as they tend to have the greatest extremes of Personalities that range between manipulatively dishonest and painfully honest. Priests quite often have a theme of "knowing what is good for you," or "the highest good," and doing whatever it takes to impose that. Every Role has a part in the processes of the Higher Astral, but it is organized and directed by the Priests. Question: How and in what form is the information on the Akashic Plane stored and accessed, and is there a way for us to visualize it? MEntity: We do not know how to describe this, but we can try to describe it in relative terms: We would have to say that it is database that is like an ocean of light that has no form until directly accessed. The closest we can come to describing this to you is in how your own imagination works. Your imagination gives rise to form from an ocean of light, if you will. However, Imagination is not information, and it is emotional. The Akashic Plane behaves in a similar way to imagination, except that it is in response to Thought. That is why it is such a tedious process for learning to access and interpret the data, because if any element of emotion is involved, the data is "tainted" or distorted with imagination, and is not pure information. In much the same way that the Physical Plane must be transcended while diving into the utter profundity of emotions in the Astral, so must the Emotional Plane be transcended while diving into the utter profundity of intellect in the Causal. It is not that one is better or worse than the other, but simply different processes of focus and experience. The way it works for us is that each of you have a "room" here that is your personal part of the Akashic. When we work with you in a way that requires our accessing this, we open that room and it reveals to us the details necessary for us to respond to your questions. Those details are revealed to us in two ways: your way, and our way. We get to see the data in your terms, first, which is often rich with emotional elements. We must then strip the emotional embellishments away from that data to get the most refined and accurate responses delivered to you. The more emotional your questions, the more difficult that process is. This is why your questions about relationships and mate agreements and other desired, longed for, craved, grieved, etc. can be difficult for us to deliver clearly to you. Add to that the fact that as soon as data includes another fragment and his or her data, we have to double the work of that process. Of course, that description is not as complicated as our description sounds, but it is a fair description. On the most basic levels, we can say this: The Akashic Plane of a fragment (instinctive center) or of an entire Universe are simply interfaces for recording, accessing, and interpreting all of the variations on the interference patterns that exist. The actual medium is the medium, itself. Question: Is it possible for higher plane teachers to physically, suddenly manifest without being born on the physical plane? Or is that a myth? MEntity: We have never heard of such a thing. That is not to say that they cannot "appear," but this would be generated from through the lower astral, or the Imagination, and can be just as effective. Question: So if consciousness is the gravitational force that holds matter together, what is it that pushes them apart? Astrophysicists have deemed this "dark energy" and "dark matter" in that it is so dark and non-interacting that we don't know anything about it. What is your interpretation of this? MEntity: We must first say that the concept of "dark matter" will eventually be replaced with better terminology and understanding, as it is found to be far more active than suspected. For the sake of working with current terminology and understanding, we will say that it could be said to be the unconscious. Not the subconscious, but the unconscious. And by "unconscious," we simply mean the unformed, and the medium from which form is formed. Question: like unrealized potential energy? MEntity: And realized. It is a resource. Question: In what ways and what type of karma can be resolved on the third level astral that do not require a physical plane experience? MEntity: Any Karma that did not require a body. A Physical Body, that is. Question: and what would that be? MEntity: Mind Fucking, Betrayal, Emotional Abandonment or Neglect, etc. Philanthropic Inspiration, Emotional Healing, etc. Question: how would these be resolved? MEntity: Often in quite similar methods as would be used through a Physical Plane body, but simply not actually being Physical. The familiarity of the Physical Plane is replicated as a fairly consistent and large mapping of the Astral for just such things. What we spoke about in the Levels was specific to that 3rd Level, in that once discarnate, further Karma can continue to be burned, but that is not the only Level that can address non-Physical Karma. Some of this happens even as you are incarnated. We know of many of you who have awakened from a rather profound dream of affection and love from some unknown relationship, or have played out scenarios that have no bearing on your current life, but felt like lifetimes lived, or have shared profoundly erotic and intimate moments with a "famous" person that were clearly more than fantasy. These can often be a burning of a ribbon. Question: So even after cycling off, there is opportunity to burn off any remaining karma that does not require physical form? MEntity: Often those Karma addressed on the 3rd Level after cycling off are much like "bonus" rounds that both parties had dropped as requiring balance, but are then addressed for the sheer sake of experience.
OMW - Mar 5, 2011 - Choice Vs Circumstances Troy Tolley, Michael Channel MEntity: Hello to all of you. We are here. We understand that we have been asked to discuss the sometimes-confusing subject of Choice, and how this may or may not conflict with the subject of Circumstances. First we will discuss the concept of Choice: this concept has been discussed to a great extent in our body of information, but much of the concept has been discussed in terms of its foundation, and not its "structure," so to speak. Choice is the most-powerful and immediate tool any consciousness has, and all forms of consciousness have Choice. That is an example of a foundational statement. This is a factual statement. But what is built upon that is often inaccurate and misleading. That fact that Choice is available to every fragment and every form of consciousness does not elaborate upon the DEGREE of Choice that a fragment or form of consciousness may have at its disposal. It also does not account for the degrees of consciousness that a fragment may have to have as a means to increase the capacity for choice. It also does not account for the restricting factors of any given life, relationship, or event. So the concept of choice becomes a painful, confusing, delusional, dishonest, and harmful structure built upon an empowering, clear, aware, honest and healing foundation. We clarify the difference between the "foundational" and the "structure" because there is no paradox and no conflict between the two, but when one is confused for the other, the conflicts and confusion can come. The concept that "All is Choice" is a foundational statement, but not a structural statement. ALL is Choice, but this does not elaborate upon the fact that there are variations on the dimensions of "you" who make these choices, and that while a choice may be made in one dimension, it is not one that is made in another. ALL is Choice, but this does not elaborate upon the fact that this is not a statement of permission, but a simple foundation of existence. It does not elaborate upon the evolution of choice-making, and that fragments learn how to choose in ways that match their growing consciousness and manifestation of Essence. This is why the choice between "murder" and "not murdering" becomes an easy choice as one evolves. So while "All is Choice," and "Choice is the most-powerful tool you have" are true, it will help to understand the structures that are built upon those concepts in varations that can make sense. All forms of consciousness have Choice, from the subatomic to the complexity of Sentience. The degree to which a consciousness is closer to Sentience is the degree to which that consciousness makes choices that range between atomic and anatomic, or put another way: in a range between reactionary to creative. Bacteria have Choice, but can only react to stimuli. Humans have Choice, and that can range between reaction to stimuli all the way to conscious, creative problem-solving and beyond. The more one only reacts to stimuli, the more one is bound by the atomic, or the lack of consciousness. The Soul Ages describe this process of learning how to choose, and choosing how to learn. The Soul Ages describe the widening range of realization for a Sentient Being to excercise its capacity for Choice. The Infant Soul does not have the same capacity for Choice as does an Old Soul. It must be LEARNED. And in a microcosmic reflection, the newborn child does not have the same capacity for choice that an adult has. The Old Soul child does not have the same capacity for choice that an Old Soul adult has. This is because that capacity must be REMEMBERED. The Internal Monads are a description of that remembering process. Every lifetime is a remembering process, and every new Soul Age is as well. Every new Soul Age is the equivalent of a new Personality, in many ways, because it is a new paradigm upon which the Essence must now build from an old paradigm. The first 3 Levels of any Soul Age, and the first 3 stages of the Internal Monads are entirely about regaining consciousness, or "remembering." The 4th Level/Stage is about the application and building upon that memory. The 5th is about the experimentation with those new structures; the 6th is about the integration of those experiments; and the 7th is the comprehension/archiving of all of the experiences gained across that Age or Lifetime or span of lifetimes. We share this with you because it is helpful to understand that process and why it is a part of our mapping of existence, but also because it can help you understand the spectrum that you may have as choice at any given time, in any given circumstance. CIRCUMSTANCES is a term that Troy chose, but we can work with this as a term that describes situations, scenarios, conditions, limitations, etc that appear to be, or are clearly beyond your control in any obvious way. CHOICE will ALWAYS exist in some form in ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. That range of choice will ALWAYS range between atomic to anatomic, or between reactionary to creative. It might even be fair to call the range as being between Reactionary to Conscious, and while that is fair, it is slightly misleading because there would still be some degree of consciousness to your reactionary choices. For instance, your compulsions: doing what you know you do not want to do, but doing it anyway. Compulsions are reactionary. Impulses are Creative. To return to the ideas of Foundation and Structure, like the statements about Choice, it would be true to say that one is born into Circumstances that are not the choices of the Personality, but that would be a foundational statement. It does not elaborate upon the fact that the Personality is a beautiful and brilliant extension of Essence who created the Personality through its capacity of choices, and that the circumstances were chosen as Essence's ideas for how best to explore the life as you. It could be argued, then, that the life is not "your" choice, and that would be true to some degree, but only as true as "you" are not manifesting or allowing Essence into the life. The more one aligns with Essence, manifests Essence, the more the life becomes a creative process, and not a pinball game of reaction to stimuli. Therefore, while Circumstances may be limiting, and your Choices restricted to the context of Circumstances, the CAPACITY for Choice is never limited. Within the most extreme of Circumstances, you will always have the choice ranging between reaction and creativity. You may not "choose" to die from a long-term illness in any way that seems obvious to you, but you CAN choose to react to that experience as a form of survival, or choose creative ways of dealing with it in a way that evolves you. You may not "choose" to be poor in any way that makes sense to you, but you CAN choose between constant reaction to the circumstances, and creative responses to the circumstances. You may not "choose" to grow old in a way that hurts, but you CAN choose between reacting to that pain, and being creative through it, around it, beyond it. You may not "choose" who challenges you, and who may die on you, or who may assault you, or who may praise you, but you CAN choose to default to reaction or to creative response. All of this is summed up in the cliche, but valid, statement that you may not choose what happens to you, but you do have a choice in what to do with what happens to you. The most extreme form of Circumstance within a life is what we will call SUFFERING. Suffering is a relative term, so we will not define any conditions for it beyond the fact that anyone can Suffer for any reason that he or she deems circumstances are beyond their control. SUFFERING is a natural part of being alive. It cannot be avoided, and it will happen to all of you in some way, some how, some time. Not because it is imposed upon you, but because each of you will go through a process of interpreting experiences in a way that cause Suffering. Each of you Suffer in every lifetime in some way. Even the Transcendental and hosts for the Infinite Souls suffer. This is because there will ALWAYS be Circumstances beyond your control in some way. In the same way that we described the Learning and Remembering process of Soul Ages and Internal Monads, so does the approach to Suffering evolve. Suffering is avoided at all costs as an Infant Soul, and as an infant child, but Suffering is eventually and actively embraced as the soul ages, and as the adult comes into maturity. To avoid Suffering is a Survival Reaction, and a valid one within context. To embrace Suffering is to embrace your Creative Force. This is why it is well-known that those who suffer within a lifetime tend to be the most creative. Suffering is one of the most fertile of experiences for generating a return to a Creative Force within. It is NOT the only way, but it is a way that is so often a part of the life that it has come to be counted upon by Essence in many ways. When one abdicates Choice, Suffering is painful and overwhelming. When one enlists Choice to any degree closer to Creativity, Suffering becomes a rich resource, and often a direct path back to the self, and to Essence. All Infinite Souls embraced Suffering in its entirety. All Transcendental Souls, as well. This is NOT because Suffering is "noble," but that it is a part of life, a part of living, a part of being alive, in a body, and within the structures of limitation that are built upon various foundations. To avoid Suffering is to remain locked in Survival Mode. To consciously embrace it as a part of life is to Evolve. This does not mean one must seek it out, though we doubt we need to warn of this since suffering is often found without "looking for it." There are three types of Suffering: Survival Suffering, Denial Suffering, and Conscious Suffering. Survival Suffering is a closed loop of Suffering that is often generated through circular blame, guilt, shame. This is not a "true" suffering, but one that is brought upon the self and can be broken at any moment, though may require support and intervention. Survival Suffering tends to cut one off from others, the world, relationships, and life. Denial Suffering is an open loop of Suffering that drags others into it as a means to help the fragment continue its denials, lies, refusals, delusions. This is not a "true" suffering, but one that is brought upon the self as a means to avoid responsibility and accountability. Denial Suffering often leaves a trail of broken relationships, hurt people, and can lead to sociopathic behaviors. Where Survival Suffering isolates the fragment, Denial Suffering creates closed allegiances and alliances that become defensive fences between the self and "reality." Conscious Suffering, or True Suffering, is when one recognizes that there is nowhere else to go, so to speak. When one "loses" a loved one, there is nowhere to go but to suffer the grief. When one struggles with illness, there is nowehere to go but to suffer the challenges. When one struggles with pain, there is nowhere to go but to suffer the endurance. Conscious Suffering is the willingness to stand in that, and let it be. Conscious Suffering is the willingness to be present for the experience. Willingness to be present is a willingness to own what power one has in the circumstance, regardless of how limited that power may be. Owning the power that one has in the most limited of circumstances is the embrace of Choice and Creativity. Embracing Choice and Creativity means allowing for uncertainty, and paves a rich path back to the core of the self and to Essence. While Suffering is not a "noble" thing, it does lead to noble characteristics that every fragment eventually embraces and evolves. The 7 Nobilities, if you will, are: PRESENCE or Self-Authority; STRENGTH or Endurance; INNOCENCE or Wisdom; CREAVITY or Solvency; EMPATHY or Self-Reflection; FORGIVENESS or Self-Responsibility; and TRUST or Experience. The first two are Action Oriented, resonating to King/Warrior respectively. The second two relate to Expression Axis, and Sage/Artisan respectively. The third set of two relates to the Inspirational, and Priest/Server respectively. And finally the Assimilative and Scholar. The "Nobilities" will tend to be emphasized in various degrees depending on the predominance of Overleaves across the Axes, and, of course the Role and Casting. We will OPEN THE QUEUE here for your questions regarding what we have shared so far. Type three asterisks *** to indicate that you have a question, and we will call upon you in order. QUEUE IS NOW OPEN [Maureen] What comments would you make re: the axiom – “If you have the choice choose to enjoy” related to today's material? Maureen, we think that is a valid statement, and in MOST of life circumstances, that choice for \enjoyment is present, but it would be a lie to say that it is a choice in every circumstance. It is rare that a fragment would or could choose to "enjoy" Suffering, itself, but one CAN choose to find moments of joy, or to allow moments of joy, however fleeting, to count, even in the midst of Suffering. If someone suffers from cancer, it would be irresponsible to tell that person to choose to enjoy the cancer, but it would be helpful to remind them that there is joy beyond the suffering, or alongside the suffering. Does this response offer some insight, Maureen? [Maureen] move towards inclusion rather than exclusion - yes thanks Yes, Maureen. That is a valid elaboration. [Corinne] Could you explain further the differences between structure and foundation from the beginning part? The difference between Foundation and Structure is the difference between what IS the concept and the DETAILS of that concept. The concept of a foundation for a home is fairly standard, for example, but what the details of that home may be as built upon any foundation is varying. It could be also be said to be the facts within the facts. CHOICE is a foundation for any form of conscious, but the details of how that choice is built, evolved, utilized, applied, etc is as varied as any home. Does this help clarify? [Corinne] Ok...it's clearer. Is this distinction relative to choice similar for the essence and the personality or different? Another example might be that you have a LIFE, and that is a Foundation, but what you DO WITH THAT LIFE is the structure built upon it. [Corinne] AH! I see. You will always have a range of Choice between Reaction and Creativity within any Circumstance, but you will not always understand or consciously choose your Circumstances. [Oscar] Hello Michaelses ;) Would you care to elaborate on "...any way that seems obvious to you", which you mentioned in relation to possibility of Choice? For example, one may not "choose" a certain illness, but the choices made over time during the life may end up resulting in that illness. To that extent, one DOES CHOOSE the illness, but it is no way an obvious process. Another example might be that one may not "choose" to be attacked by a murderer or rapist, but the choices that lead one to be in a certain place at a certain time resulted in being accessible to the attacker. To that extent one DOES CHOOSE the path that leads to the attacker, but in no way that is fair to call an "obvious choice" made by a person. One may not choose to live with the aches and pains of growing older in a finite body, but one DOES CHOOSE to grow older, and thus the inherent conditions that go along with age must be included in that choice. Do these examples help to clarify? [Oscar] yes very much so, thanks =) [DanR] Michael, could you comment on a bias seen in fragments where they view their own suffering as arising from unfortunate external circumstances while they view other fragments' suffering as arising from poor choices? For example, “I am poor due to a bad upbringing and lack of opportunity while they are poor because they chose not to work hard.” Does overcoming this bias help with Essence evolution? The first example is one of Survival Suffering: blame on the past, on the upbringing, on the past. Survival Suffering is wrought with comparisons for the sake of excuses and alleviation of self-reflection and self-authority, self-responsibility, etc. Comparing Suffering is never insightful. It is about as useless as defining a line between Art and Not Art. By this we mean that while there are three types of Suffering that do have symptoms and behaviors distinct to each, they are still Suffering. Anyone who Suffers can use your help, and if you suffer, you can always use your own help. Therefore, yes, the transcendence of comparisons will always help one to tend to his own Creative solutions for his suffering, rather than to ensure them because they are justified when compared to others'. Comparisons are helpful for navigation, but if not used for navigation, they become the parameters of centrifugal vs creative force. Does this help in answering your question? [DanR] Yes, thank you very much Michael. [Bobbi] Having recently been dropped by a friend of 35+ years, I am left wondering if my change from uneasy ally in her Denial Suffering to offering self-empowerment/self-love suggestions caused the freeze-out. Do I try to get back in, or let her evolution continue without me? Your observations are valid. The "freeze-out" is often the modus operandi of those in Denial Suffering, and if we see the correct fragment, your assessment is valid. As mentioned before, Suffering is Suffering, regardless of Denial, Survival, or Conscious, and any Suffering person can use your help. The choice is yours to make, but there is a risk that it could lead you to your own Suffering in some way. And if you are willing, then that can be a path of Creative Force. We would say that it would be helpful to continue what you have already done, which is to continue along lines that are on your own terms, and not catering to the perceived delusions. [Bobbi] Would the risk be rejection? [Bobbi] Again. There is a way to return to the friendship with more offers of support and intervention without it being consuming, and that would be through calling upon one of the 7 Nobilities that come naturally to you, or that you wish to take on as a challenge. [Bobbi] Thank you. Very helpful. When one moves into uncertainty, risk, and limitation of choice, but recognizes that choice is still an option, then calling upon one of the 7 Nobilities can help one to focus the choices. [Bobbi] Good to know and have in the holster! For instance, in your case, you can make the choice to take the risk because you are willing to challenge your Empathy, or to utilize your Forgiveness, or to encourage her Strength by exemplifying it in yourself, etc. As we said, Suffering is not the Nobility, in itself, but from Suffering comes the 7 Nobilities, and one eventually learns to call upon those actively and willingly in the lifetime. When one actively calls upon a Nobility, then Suffering is minimized, if not diminished entirely. [Bobbi] I must have missed that in the other books. ;-) It is not there. Our teaching is not completed in any book. [Jill] Would it be accurate to say that someone who is highly sensitive is highly reactive due to interpretation of experiences? Highly Sensitive does not automatically equate Highly Reactive, though the phrase "highly sensitive" is often imposed upon those who are more obvious in their reactions or creative responses. Highly-sensitive people simply react OR respond quickly. Those who are highly-sensitive require more downtime for calibration and recalibration, since their sensitivity equates quickness. On the surface, and often, yes, this is reactionary, but it can evolve into a quickness of consciousness and creativity just as easily as anyone can. Does this lend insight to your question? [Jill] Is sensitivity due to Overleaves, imprinting etc.? Sensitivity can be a result of any number of combinations, but most-often it is the result of AWARENESS. When one is "sensitive" in the sense that one is offended by the slightest thing, it is NEW, or RAW Awareness, whereas one who is "sensitive" in a sense is intuitive and transcendent of the senses, it is INTEGRATED Awareness. [Jill] Thank you. I have been struggling with the distinction for quite some time Sensitivity is a state that every fragment strives for, and cycles through in terms of rawness vs integration. Being easily upset or offended only means that one has not found acceptable solutions to the awareness that has come to be, and this can be the case in a spectrum of situations. For instance, one can be sensitive to the behaviors of others in a way that upsets one because this emphasizes the differences between oneself and another. What to do with that awareness is then a process of Integration. [Jill] So we can truly feel empathy on the way to agape? One can be sensitive to the plight of animals, or the oppressed, and but raw awareness will be ineffective and reactionary, often exacerbating or defeating the awareness, but integrated awareness will be responsive, effective, creative, and educational on behalf of that awareness. Jill, one cannot be in a state of agape without empathy. We will conclude this workshop with a suggestion for each of you to examine the 7 Nobilities and to look at which ones are more challenging, which ones are natural to you, and which ones have not been considered. Look at the risks you may be willing to take in the life, and call upon one that you feel could help minimize the potential for suffering. Examine where and how in your life you feel you suffer because of circumstances, and see if you can stand in it Consciously so that it is transformed into a path to your Creative Force. [Corinne] What are the differences between the Nobilities you capitalized and those you didn't? While there may be variations in the limitations and freedoms relative to Choice, you will ALWAYS carry with you the spectrum between Reaction and Response/Creativity. Corrine, we added a more personalized sub-description for convenience. It could be said that the capitalized is the foundation, and the lower-case is the structure; or put another way, the concept and the application. [Corinne] I see. Thanks. We must conclude here today. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.