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Ask Michael Open Floor Chat August 3, 2014 Channel: Troy Tolley [Ty] I've been interested in the not-so-commonly held Historicist interpretation of the Book of Revelation lately: Could Michael comment on their perspective of what exactly is the deal with that piece of writing? (like what it means, etc) [MEntity] To examine this writing, particularly in terms of its reinterpretations of reinterpretations, would be quite a task, as there are such personal and nuanced symbolism within it that builds upon itself within particular contexts set. For example, if one were to explore the meaning of a dream where one sees a red wand that is suspended by light while swimming in a lake, one would have [MEntity] several elements here to explore before fully comprehending the symbolic language in its parts and as a whole as a message. [MEntity] So for simplistic purposes, we will say that, overall, the writing is a personal account of this individual's sense of his world ending, or transforming. It is not prophetic, and was never meant to be prophetic. [MEntity] It was never meant to refer to the world beyond his known world. [Ty] So things that appear to match up quite well historically would be coincidence? [MEntity] To apply this individual's dreams to relevance in time beyond himself is about as useful as reading any one of our student's dream journals in your community as a means to gain insight into your own life. [MEntity] Historically, there may be significance, but not beyond his own time. [MEntity] Depending on the version one is reading, the altering of words to retrofit more recent history (relatively speaking) can be fairly high. [MEntity] It is natural for imagination to find patterns, and then this must be navigated with intelligence to sort through which are valid. For example, there are many who feel that there is significance to a particular time seen on a digital clock when that is rarely the case. It simply happens that it is a pattern that you can extract from your experiences. [MEntity] Some patterns are ignored because there is intelligence involved. For example, going in and out of your front door of your home is not a startling event of significance, even though it is far more likely a pattern of signifance and consistency than a digital clock read out. [MEntity] And though a digital clock read out will never amount to more than an amusing synchronicity, many will impose mysterious significance upon it. [Ty] Sounds like you're talking about Angel Numbers [GeraldineB] 11:11 [MEntity] We use these more accessible examples as a means to point to the same process being used when interpreting writing, dreams, and records from the past as seen as prophecy. [Ty] Some of the writing claim in themselves to be prophecies, such as he book of Daniel from the OT [MEntity] We once described a "future" to our students as including homes that were partly triangular shape, connected by strands of light that were used for instant travel. This was met with oohs and ahhhs until we pointed out that we were describing the roofs of homes currently on the block, connected by cables of electricity and television and internet, which allowed for instant "travel." [MEntity] Our point being that our description of the present in more poetic terms could be interpreted outside of time and in any number of ways. This is how some historic writing is in nature, as well. [GeraldineB] I'd like to ask for followup information about how wide-spread Transcendental Souls are spread out through out society. You've alluded to it previously as many are unknown people outside of their local area. Recently, you said that several comedians were TSs -- is this in the full sense of being O6s or in a particular way they are functioning? [MEntity] We do not think we referred to these fragments as Transcendental Souls, but as teachers/channels for Entities. [MEntity] These are distinctly different contexts. [GeraldineB] ooh ok -- I thought the term TS was used -- [GeraldineB] then, please explain what you did mean [MEntity] For example, Troy is not a Transcendental Soul, he is a channel for us. Troy is not of our Entity, and therefore will never be a Transcendental Soul representing us. For us to be a Transcendental Soul, a fragment from our own Entity must incarnate. A Transcendental Soul is born, not channeled, though the fragment born does act as a channel for his or her Entity. [GeraldineB] oooooh [GeraldineB] But, you are cycled off [MEntity] Many comedians, healers, dancers, artists, etc are teachers/or channels for Entities with a teaching, just like us. [MEntity] Different Entities teach in different ways through different Centers. Our Teaching is Intellectually-based, while including the Emotional and Moving. More Movement-based teachings require channels who move, use the body more, and/or have more direct access to students, such as dancers and healers. [MEntity] And so on. [MEntity] All True Teachings include all Centers, but are based in different ways. We do not provide healing energy, nor do we inspire through a pirouette, but we still heal and inspire. [Maureen] Which center did Seth teach through? [MEntity] Intellectual, of course. [MEntity] If the teaching is vocal, it is Intellectual. [MEntity] All Entities as they pass through the Causal will teach the Physical Plane in some way, so there must be a multitude of channels and methods of teaching. [MEntity] The variation of Parallels allows for all Entities to have sets of parallels that are focused on their collection of students. Within that set, there will be at least one parallel where the incarnation as Transcendental Soul is fulfilled. [MEntity] As for the state of Transcendental Souls on the planet, there are very few in this parallel. [Kurtis] Hi Michael, in the OMW section of this site I found some nifty information on how Aggression and Power Modes evolve intimacy. [Kurtis] "...Aggression is an exalted action Overleaf. Aggression evolves intimacy by way of constant change, movement, activity, progress. One must be able to "keep up." [Kurtis] Intimacy is nearly impossible with someone who might wish to slow you down, tame you, or fault you for constant change of focus and directions." [Kurtis] "...Power Mode is about Being Present. It is an Expressive Overleaf, not an action, so it will be about making your presence known in some way. [Kurtis] It is about owning your presence, being comfortable in your skin, "being yourself." [Kurtis] In other words, how you might evolve intimacy is in how much of "you" can be present, be permitted, allowed, without shame, silencing, etc." [Kurtis] I was wondering if you could provide the same info for how the other modes evolve intimacy like those examples. [Kurtis] Particularly Observation, Passion and Reserve, as most students here are or slide to those modes. [Kurtis] I don't want to take too much time off of others questions so if all other 5 can't be fit in, just cut some off of course and I can ask for them another time. [MEntity] For Observation Mode, it is a matter of truly seeing and being seen. The key, however, is that it is not a static state. It is an evolving, shifting, and adaptive state of seeing and being seen. Intimacy for Observation Mode is killed if someone locks him or her in one version of himself or herself. If the one in Observation does not allow for the variations and facets of others, but locks them into one preference or expectation, this begins to repel the other. [MEntity] For Passion Mode, intimacy is evolved through each being extensions of the other. This can show up in a range between co-dependency and co-creation. Co-dependency expects the other to represent himself or herself. Behaving in ways that are outside of the range of Passion's own behavior can be startling and divisive. This can still lead to intimacy, depending upon the relationship, because some are drawn to Passion precisely for that context of personal transformation. If this is not an understood dynamic, it can be messy. [MEntity] This is usually the case when Passion is used or sought for teaching. [MEntity] Co-creation is a dynamic of inspiration that feeds from one another as Passion learns about the self through other. This is more appealing, as both are learning then. [MEntity] Both are teachers. [MEntity] Reserve evolves in intimacy through layers of reveal. It must be experienced and processed as layers, not as a dive into a deep pool, but as a cool or warm sip at a time. [MEntity] As you can see, the reason Obvservation cannot be static is because it can slide to any of these, and each of these are valid paths of intimacy. [MEntity] We can eleborate upon all of these as a topic of focus, if that is requested. [ViP1] Why is it necessary for an Entity to reunite before cycling off the Astral plane to the Causal plane, as compared to fragments being able to reside on, or move to, the Causal plane without that happening first? (Or even before that, if I remember correctly, possibly by the 6th level of the Astral?) Is the sheer amount of input on the Causal plane too much for a single fragment to process without the bonding and resonance with the rest of the Entity in place? [MEntity] There could be two valid responses to that question. One is that your latter suggestion is true. To move through the Causal as a fragment would "destroy" the fragment. The density of the Plane is such that the physics would disintegrate the fragment. There may be more accurate words to describe this, but it is fair enough in terms of understanding it here. We can only speculate on this, of course, as no individual fragment has resided in the Causal. [MEntity] In much the same way that your Physical Body could not be sustained in the Astral, neither can the Astral Body be sustained in the Causal. At least, not in the way it was used in the Astral. [ViP1] ok (I thought individual fragments also had Causal bodies, but perhaps these are built such that they must "hook in" to the Causal body of the Entity as a whole?) [MEntity] Your response here leads to our second answer. [MEntity] The reason one is referred to as a fragment is because one is already a part of a whole. That whole already exists, and as one moves beyond the denser planes, that fragmentation is naturally left behind, even if the "individual" is not. [MEntity] Your "Causal" Bodies ARE your Entity. [MEntity] It is a field shared across all fragments of that Entity. [MEntity] As a Physical Incarnation, this may be more nuanced in its relevance to the fragment, but it is still connected across all fragments. [MEntity] Imagine an ice cube tray that could produce 1000 cubes. Your Entity is a perpetually-replenished pitcher of water poured into that tray, divided into cubes. When frozen, that is like an incarnation. When thawed, that is like the Astral. When poured back into the pitcher, it is the Causal. [MEntity] So it is not so much that the fragment would be "destroyed" as an individual in the Causal, but that the very nature of progression to the Causal, naturally, requires a different state. [MEntity] As an ice cube, "you" are destroyed. But everything that made up that ice cube is never lost. [ViP1] and all ice cube shapes are stored in the Akashic [MEntity] We realize these are crude analogies, but they work. [MEntity] To include how the Akashic fits into this, we would have to move to a different analogy or metaphor, as it is not a Plane in which anyone resides, but is only accessed. [MEntity] It is more like the center of a vortex that exists because of what is spinning around it. A donut hole, if you will. [ROYCEonROIDS] Art as I know it at its best is a reflection of the mysterious, the wonder, the beyond words . As the world begins to approach an old soul paradigm in a few hundred year or so...how would art change. would it still be necessary in the ways we know it? as more PEOPLE become the reflection of that WONDER that art encapsulated, what place will ART have in that world? [MEntity] Though this varies among Old Soul worlds, Art escalates in range and importance among all of them. It is often no longer confined to a specific range of media or obvious creativity, but comes to include the entire life of an individual, how he or she creates his or her day, etc. This is already being glanced at in your current paradigm, though colored heavily by Young Soul filters. [MEntity] "Reality TV" is, at its heart, a glimpse of Old Soul Art. [MEntity] Becoming a celebrity only because one has become a celebrity is also a distorted form of Old Soul Art. [MEntity] These things may be repulsive to older souls as they are being presented now, but these hint at an undercurrent of acknowledgement of the LIFE as ART. [MEntity] In many Old Soul worlds, Art is entirely experiential and temporal. Exhibitions are sunsets that can never been seen again, or gatherings where spontaneous suggestions are matched up with random individuals who must then perform, create, or do the suggestion, even if it is well outside of their talents. [MEntity] This leads to great rounds of humor and levity that is often at the core of Old Soul arts. [MEntity] Interactivity is highly important to the Old Soul world of art, as well. For example, one installation we know of is something like a steep hill of xylophone-like panels that are carefully arranged in ways that an individual could dance down this hill in any number of ways to create his or her song of spontaneity. [MEntity] Collaborative art is highly important to the Old Soul world of art, as well. In many probabilities, holographic-like galleries are "online" for contributors to create projects that can be altered by anyone from anywhere. No walk through that gallery is met with the same version of the art. [MEntity] Interactivity, Collaboration, Temporal/Amorphous, and spontaneous are key traits for Old Soul arts, though we caution against presuming these traits are definitive. There is more we can say to this subject. [Maureen] I just realized that my question may tie in (indirectly) with Royce’s question. [Maureen] "The "rise of the selfie" is pretty well accepted now as a big part of our culture, but I can see the “darker side” of it representing a self absorption and self-indulgence that seems "boundless" some days, especially on facebook where some choose very little actual dialogue and over-posting is like an epidemic. It's a one way blast of "me-ness"." [Maureen] Do you see that so much “self-interest” is related to 1) incomplete 4th Internal Monads, 2) the average Soul Age being Mature (including manifested Soul Age as well), 3) narcissism, 4) pure, unfettered self expression, or 5) all of the above, 6) something else? Any comment on this would be appreciated as I would really like to understand this phenomenon. [MEntity] At no other time in your history has there been such a shared space of celebration of the self. This is a transitional state between Young and Mature. It is beautiful to us. There was a time when it was sinful, shameful, and even evil to look in a mirror, as well as dangerous to be photographed. There was a time when disowning the self in disgust was Holy. Now you are in a time when the mundane is being celebrated. The self is being allowed to be seen, not just in terms of how others see that self, but in terms of how that self wishes to be seen. [MEntity] Yes, there is a clamoring of noise in this celebration, but that is the nature of celebration. [MEntity] You are in a time of liberation, which often comes before freedom. True Freedom. Liberation is the relief that comes with surges of noise while still anchored in some restrictions or extremes, often with great displays for the external world, while True Freedom is owned, experienced, and known, often in quiet, internal ways. [MEntity] It is beautiful to us because it is a step in the direction of acknowledging that you are important, that the mundane is important, that a moment is important, that context exists beyond preordained contexts. [MEntity] Our Species has long been subject to the notion that only the next world is important, or that *things* are important, or that only that which is deemed important is important, and those things are important, but not at the expense of the singular joy in sharing, of expressing, of being, of capturing a moment of mundanity. [MEntity] The species knows that privacy is a concept of the Young Paradigm, and that a Mature and Old Paradigm must embrace a lack of privacy in a healthy way for evolution to continue. [MEntity] Willingly offering up yourself in the most mundane of ways may seem to be a bumbling or chaotic, self-absorbed step, but it is a step in the direction of evolution. If the emphasis were to remain only on privacy and protection, then true invasion is much more likely. But in the same way that hackers teach systems better how to manage its delicate systems, so does constant exposure help the species to learn better how to manage its delicate identities. [Maureen] If Liberation is the "negative" pole and Freedom is the "positive" pole -- what are they the poles of? [MEntity] Among your options for describing the motivations of those contributing to the visual cacophony of "selfies" and other related sharing, we can say that "all of the above" would naturally be included because those motivations are reflective of the various fragments and Personalities among you. [MEntity] In response to the last question, it could be said to be the poles at either end of whatever was being oppressed: innocence, power, sexuality, etc. [Maureen] Thanks Michael. That was an interesting answer. [MEntity] When any of these oppressed states are liberated, there is "noise" that then moves into a more peaceful state.