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  1. Note from Janet: This topic was originally posted by Geraldine on September 29, 2014. I have elected to post it under the same forum section that Geraldine chose. Note from Geraldine: I had my Team POF session today, and, while I didn't have anything personal that seemed pressing, I did want to continue with some of my "Timeline Project" work, too. Warfare and Warriors isn't exactly that, but it does fill in a couple of blanks as it opens up some new Questions. GeraldineB: I'd like more context for the constant warfare that I've been aware of that goes back to recorded history and that has become progressively more genocidal -- just kill the others rather than conquer. I'm grappling with the concept of Warriors and warfare. In cultures that do not have organized warfare, i.e., standing armies, what role does the "role of Warrior" play? I would like a brief overview of the expansion of warfare in human history. Expansion from inter-tribal conflicts or refugee movements due to crop failures or climate changes, etc., to outright "empire-building," such as was exhibited by Alexander "the Great." (i do realize that session is not long enough for a full elaborate discussion, but should give some groundwork for future Qs.) MEntity: First, our choice of the term "Warrior" was chosen from how we learned the term, rather than how the term has come to be fractured. Much like "Slave," the "Warrior" is often mistaken for its cultural and historic stereotype, which is a fraction of the range that is the Role. This is true of all of the Roles, of course, to some extent. Warrior, in our system, refers to those who, at their core, can rally for a cause, bring energy to a direction, encourage loyalty and compassion, invoke courage as a platform for change, etc. All of this can be used in war, but that is not the goal of the Warrior. It just happens that war requires this same kind of energy and loyalty to a cause. So in a culture where there is no war or standing armies, there are always causes, loyalties, need for protection, encouragement of courage, strength, anchoring, grounding, etc, that are needed and provided. GeraldineB: thank you for the clarification MEntity: Warriors, ironically, are often of the most passive and peaceful of Roles, but will burst forth without question or concern if there is necessity for protection, loyalty to an accepted cause, or defense of an underdog. In earlier Soul Ages, the Warrior is much easier to provoke in this regard, and therefore has come to be synonymous with fighting and warring, but it is the Priests who often exploited this in the Warriors. Most wars are are generated by the invocations of Priests. GeraldineB: ISIS . . .shit, I hadn't thought of that MEntity: In earlier Soul Ages, the Priest Roles are regarded as rather superior in access to vision and long-term causes, so the younger Soul Ages will leave the instruction up to the Priests to give. This is one of the reasons there is an inherent distrust between many Warriors and Priests as the Mature Soul Age comes around for them, and these Roles will often keep each other at a distance. Though that distance is kept in place as often as possible, the Karma generated between these Roles compels them to find one another and burn the Ribbons. Warfare has really not expanded much over the course of history. It fluctuates in its horrors, but it is still the same in terms of conflict. All of this warfare is based on the fulfillment of the Nine Needs. In most cases when there is war, there is a Need being fulfilled to some early degree. This is a learning process for Humans, and we realize the process is slow. In most cases, the more obvious of the warfare includes the lower ends of POWER, EXPANSION, and SECURITY, but war is by no means limited to these Needs. Other Needs help to exacerbate the scenarios, such as the lower ends of Expression as a means of propaganda, for example. If you look at the first 3 degrees of each of the Nine Needs, you will find the clue to all wars. Only when the Needs find a way to be fulfilled from the 4th degree or higher does war begin to fade. We think this would have to be our most succinct response in light of the current format of exchange. GeraldineB: thank you -- the "reasons" were other than I expected also, I can better visualize Warriors in some of the Grand Cycles where war didn't seem to be an issue MEntity: We can address those expectations in further exchanges. Your expectations should not be discounted. Sharing them may bring more expanded and in depth understanding. GeraldineB: I'm not discounting them -- just always trying to find the "truth" that underlies seemingly incredibly counterproductive behavior Do Priests also earn ribbons for the wars they incite but may not participate in? MEntity: Many actions are counterproductive relative to the intention, but they are always productive relative to the learning. Yes, they do. Not necessarily to all individuals involved, but to those with whom they have the closer bonds that were exploited. There are many instances of "collective Karma" in that a fragment who was the source of inspiration for great waves of Ribbons to be generated will then find a way to balance this through great waves of benefit. For example, Steve Jobs was balancing a collective Karma for a lifetime when his position of creativity only served to invent greater forms of torture. This lifetime was a means of helping to balance his life during the Inquisition. These Ribbons behave differently, but similarly, and they are as compelling. We must conclude here for today. GeraldineB: Interesting :) -- Not exactly philanthropic, such as doctors w/o borders . . .but, still of great benefit MEntity: The balance here was in uniting people through technology, rather than dividing them through technology, as was the case in the past. The irony here is that inherent in his creativity is still the suspicion that this technology still acts as a means of dividing. But it is a start to the balancing of those Ribbons. "He" will be back to do more. GeraldineB: LOL -- there will always be Luddites
  2. Ask Michael Live Chat December 7, 2014 Channel: Troy Tolley ViP2: How do neurotransmitters, such as serotonin, dopamine, etc (and drugs which influence neurotransmitter production and handling in the brain, such as Prozac) fit into the spectrum of choice that is available to an individual? For example, if an individual is depressed and feels like there is only a small range of choices available to improve that situation, is taking such a drug a "useful" way to increase the available spectrum of choices? I suppose taking the drug is a choice in itself but I'm curious as to how one's mental condition, which appears to depend partially on neurotransmitter activity, influences or establishes the range of choices available in a given situation. MEntity: In response to the first part of the question: Though this topic is far more complex than the mere minutes we have here to respond, we will say that the primary effects that these neurotransmitters have is not so much on the range of choice, but on the AGREEABLE vs. DISAGREEABLE range of choice. When these neurotransmitters are in a healthy state, there is a tendency to be in a more agreeable state, which makes the range of choice accessible, but not necessarily indicative of a "good or bad" choice, as much as an agreeable choice. When these neurotransmitters are in an unhealthy state, there is a tendency to be in a more disagreeable state, which makes the range of choice seem more inaccessible, even if they are not, because any choice will tend to be opposed. Unhealthy states of neurotransmitters tend to incline one to reject, deny, or battle against options, even if the range is vast, while healthy states of these neurotransmitters tend to incline one to experiment, allow, and accept options of choice, even if the range is quite limited. In terms of influence, choice is still there, of course, even if it may not seem to be so. There is a difference between neurological processes that affect one's mood around the options of choice, and neurological processes that actually reduce the capacity to choose. When there are neurological influences that reduce the capacity to choose, then there is either self-karma taken on, or choices made for this individual become consequences for those who make the choices, not the one who is compromised. The latter would be similar to, say, how a baby or infant might require care, and how its capacity to choose is truly limited. Any choice on that baby's behalf is of consequence to only the one making the choice. We can alway speak more on this subject, but this is our response for now. ClaireC: Hello, Michael. In a similar, health-related vein, is there any validity to homeopathic medicine and the claims made by its practitioners? MEntity: Yes. ClaireC: Could you elaborate? MEntity: In most instances where homeopathic remedies have little effect, they are simply administered or taken incorrectly. One of the benefits of homeopathic remedies is that one cannot be made sick from them if there is a misdiagnosis or poor administration. But, as a whole, the claims and treatments of homeopathy are valid. This is a holistic means of treatment, best used for chronic issues and issues that require long-term treatment, while allopathic (or "western") medicine is best for emergencies. ClaireC: How does the mechanism work? MEntity: One of the ways in which one can validate the legitimacy of homeopathic remedies is that they work on non-human, non-sentient creatures. One does not have to "believe" in their effectiveness. They simply work. Veterinarians have turned to this source of treatment for many chronic ailments of animals. ClaireC: Any examples? MEntity: The means by which most homeopathic remedies work is through a kind of intense "stamping" of a molecular structure into the "memory" of water. There will come to be a better word/phrase for describing how this works, but the long and crude description is that the "essence" of molecular structure is stacked in the water in a way that is almost holographic, though not quite. Because it can be "stacked," the remedy may seem to be quite diluted when viewed through current technology, when, in fact, it is actually highly potent and concentrated. Examples for non-human animals can be seen documented for a number of ailments, from skin conditions to ear inflammations to digestive issues to neurological compromises, etc. Because there is no regulation of any significance for homeopathic remedies, and because the intake of dosage is so unfamiliar, many do not receive quality benefits, but if care is given in the selection of a professional, as well as in how one is using the remedies, profound benefit can come. ckaricai: Thanks, My question: The recent events in Ferguson, MO sparked protests all around the country. More people are opening up to the fact that people of color in this country experience a different America and it seems like emotions surrounding this fact are high for everyone...What can we do, rather what can older souls do--other than protest--to help move this country towards more racial harmony? MEntity: One of the first things that can be done by older souls is to stop pretending that one can understand the entirety and complexity of the subject. Not even those who are directly involved and directly affected can do so. It is an ancient wounding, and while current wounding can be addressed, the ancient wounding cannot. At least, not in any superficial satisfactory way. ckaricai: That seems pretty bleak MEntity: Ancient wounding of a people is valid. It is carried forward in the biological constructs of the Instinctive Center of any considered to be of that people. Even as the Essence brings forth its own Instinctive Center data, it is mixed in with the biology of the "race." While "race" is a social construct, and not a valid biological construct, those social constructs still carry an influence in terms of procreation and lineage. In other words, there is validity to "ancestral memory." However, the older the soul, the less dependency upon ancestral memory. The younger the soul, the more defined one is by ancestral memory. ckaricai: ...How then would african americans as a group move past that collective ancestral memory? MEntity: This is also true in terms of species, which is why there is an ancient wounding among all Humans regarding their place in the cosmos, related to the original relocation from Sirius. Our pointing to the fact that no one can truly comprehend the profundity and complexity of the ancient wounding is not meant to imply or sound bleak. It is meant to point to the fact that many speak AS IF they completely comprehend it, and offer opinions, ideas, and facts that speak only to a fraction of the pain. And this can tend to add to the pain. For the older soul, this inclination to presume a full understanding can be much easier to relieve than for the younger souls. As for the whole of the people in question, one of the ways for this to be healed is to allow for diversity within the whole of the people. ckaricai: I understand. Thanks for your answer. MEntity: One of the greatest internal setbacks of any oppressed group is the negative effects of solidarity. Solidarity is important and effective, but not if it is used as a means for not allowing variations in advancement and growth from within the group. Imagine a group of people seeking to escape a fire. In one scenario, everyone is linked, and shoulder-to-shoulder so that no one can get through the door. In another scenario, some will will get through the door before others, and some may have to wait a moment. This is a crude comparison, but it is simple in that it speaks to the necessity for moving beyond solidarity and into the active nurturing of diversity. ckaricai: That makes a lot of sense. MEntity: Again, this is not a full response, as the scenario is far more complex than this, but it is our best response to the questions in this format for now. MikeClev: Is there currently any other Sentience living in or visiting our Solar System (other than Earth's Humans, Cetaceans and a few Gorillas)? And, is there any NON-sentient life in our Solar System other than on Earth, for instance, on Mars MEntity: There is a great deal of non-sentient life in this system, but not sentient. There was Sentient life on Venus that has long-since cycled off, and there have been stations on Mars and Earth's Moon by non-Solar System sentience, but not as native species. Most of the species in this system would be classified along the lines of "extremophiles." MikeClev: If so, have signs of stations on the moon and mars been seen and recognised by scientists? MEntity: Oh, yes. Though they are not fully understood and debate continues, there are those who know without question that intelligent life has created structures beyond the Earth. Maureen: Is there any relationship, at all, between The Nine Needs and the Chakras / Centers? If so, what are they? I do understand that our time is limited today. If there is no relationship, I’ll pass on this question. Note: I know the numbers aren’t complementary (9 Needs vs. 7 Chakra/Centers) but as I have reviewed The Nine Needs I’m often left wondering if there is a connection as they’re both dependent on choices made that effect the fulfilment of the Physical, Emotional, Intellectual and Spiritual Bodies. MEntity: First, think of the Nine Needs as being fulfilled through the use of the Seven Chakras/Centers. Any single Need can be fulfilled through the use of any combination of Centers/Chakras. Think of the Nine Needs as results, where as the Seven Centers/Chakras are functions. Maureen: That helps. MEntity: Results and functions can always find some correlation, even if the systems are different. But to draw strict correlations between the Centers and the Needs would be like drawing some significance from one set of directions to the grocery store over a different set of directions. The path to the grocery store is a matter of function/navigation. The grocery store is the point/result. Maureen: I see. Thanks Michael. MEntity: Correlations can be drawn between the grocery store and a path taken, but also between the grocery store and a different path. This is true of the Nine Needs and Seven "paths," as well. GeraldineB: I'm asking a Q on behalf of Kurtis who couldn't attend: Hey Michael, I'd like to ask for elaboration on the Jovial Body Appearance, and any celebrities that would show it off well, thanks :) MEntity: The Jovial Body Type, in terms of Appearance, is one that embodies density of intellect and expression. This body type is designed to carry and store a wide range of ideas, feelings, stories, anecdotes, memories, wisdom, and so has a great deal of "space" among its cells that show up as either loosely packed or densely packed. Those that are loosely packed, so to speak, are those that are quite fleshy, fat, round, and what many associate with "jovial." So while one version may be like "santa claus," the loosely packed, another may be like the "dumb bodybuilder." This is not to say that Santa is wise or that bodybuilders are dumb, but the stereotypes are there. There are origins of a "Santa" that was valid, but the the modern version is simply a result of clever marketing. In terms of more specific "celebrity" versions, there is John Goodman, and then there is Arnold Schwarzenegger. We must conclude here for today. As usual, there is more to say about each of these questions, but we abbreviate our responses to accommodate this format. These more abbreviated responses can be helpful in that they prompt incremental steps in contemplation and comprehension so that a topic can be fully explored with some base knowledge, if that topic is of interest for further exploration. Good evening to each of you. Goodbye, for now.
  3. OMW - Mar 15, 2014 - The Nine Needs Channel: Troy Tolley Previously Posted Article on The Nine Needs [MEntity] Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We can begin discussion with you regarding the chosen topic. One of the reasons the Nine Needs is a fairly important dynamic to understand about yourself, others, and any community or civilization, is that these Nine Needs WILL be fulfilled, in some way, some how, even if destructively. The more conscious one is of these Nine Needs, the more one can direct oneself to more constructive ways of fulfilling those Needs. Needs are a dynamic specific to being incarnated, and having a Personality and Body. These Needs become distracting motivating factors within a lifetime, if not addressed. These Needs will trump all other motivations, if neglected or rejected, and while they may not be obvious, you are always seeking for these to be fulfilled. You are the only one who can fulfill your own Needs, but as you form in groups of 2 fragments or more, there comes a new layer of Needs that are about group fulfillment, and how that group's Needs are fulfilled. And in the same way that these Needs will be fulfilled, even if destructively, on an individual level, so it is also true in groups. There are 7 "degrees" or levels of means for fulfilling a Need. Levels 1-3 are unconscious means for fulfillment. Level 4 is a subconscious means for fulfillment. And Levels 5-7 are conscious. When fulfillment is done unconsciously, it will tend to mean that this is either a neglected or rejected Need. When fulfillment is done subconsciously, it will tend to mean that this Need is not a priority, but is not a distraction, either. When fulfillment is conscious, it simply means that this Need is fulfilled AS NEEDED, but is not necessary for constant struggle for fulfillment due to rejection or neglect. In other words, the more one rejects of neglects a Need, the more pervasive and constant that Need. When we have spoken to our students about these Needs, we have pointed to a hierarchy of tiers that describe a set of 3 Primary, 3 Secondary, and 3 Tertiary Needs. That hierarchy tends to be based on a hierarchy of assessment based in priorities. In other words, if someone feels he or she has a strong Need for Freedom, then that would be a Primary Need. For Needs that are not such a priority, they would drop to a lower tier. This is just one way of assessing one's Needs. By order of priority, which can fluctuate depending upon circumstances and agenda. What we will suggest to each of you today is to assess your Needs, not based in tiers of priority, but in order from most unconscious to most conscious. This may be similar to your orders of priority, but may not. Keep in mind that the more unconsciously fulfilled a Need, the more obvious and tangible it can tend to be, and often in more destructive or distracting ways. For example, many fulfill Expansion through physical tumors and cancer. This is a literal symptom, and is not random. If Expansion is rejected or neglected, this is one of the most direct effects. This symptom can also be symbolic, but having just as destructive an effect. For example, gangs in neighborhoods can become a kind of cancer and tumorous growth for a community that has not provided adequate means for teens and families to grow. For your convenience, we will post the basic spectrum for each Need now. SECURITY: +Trust/-Fear 7 Degrees of Security: "security found in" 1. Blind Faith; 2. False Hope; 3. Tradition; 4. Theories; 5. Reliable Sources; 6. Experience and Intuition; 7. Tao (or, full allowance of your magnetic, gravitational, and confident path of impulses) ADVENTURE: +Presence/-Drama 7 Degrees of Adventure: "adventure found in" 1. Destructive, Exaggerated, Reactionary, Manipulative Drama; 2. Glamour/Addictions (losing the self in stimulation); 3. Sensory excitement (defining the self by experiences of a rush); 4. Stimulation of Mind/Learning; 5. Inner Revelations; 6. Essence Contact (finding pleasure in seeing beyond superficial differences); 7. Enlightenment/Total Presence (never losing the sense of self, even among those who cannot see or experience your truth of being) FREEDOM: +Independence/-Noncommittal 7 Degrees of Freedom: "freedom found in"; 1. Destructive Irresponsibility; 2. Aimlessness; 3. Physical Liberation (material stability); 4. Mental Liberation (thinking for oneself); 5. Emotional Liberation (emotions are had, but the emotions do not have you; not being controlled by emotions); 6. Choosing freely (recognizing the power of choice in every instance); 7. Realization of True Unlimited Potential (True Peace with one's choices) EXPANSION: +Prosperity/-Cancer 7 Degrees of Expansion: "expansion manifested in" 1. Physical Tumors/Cancerous Growth (literal or figurative); 2. Random Accumulation (hoarding; entropy of your spacel clutter); 3. Sprawling (accumulations affect other people); 4. Idea Stretching (challenges are allowed that expand your awareness); 5. Emotional Growth (time is embraced as a way of organizing and processing experiences); 6. Transformations/Transmutations (experiences are used to make a difference); 7. True Prosperity/Total Appreciation (Meaning is embraced as the point of Growth and experience, rather than attached to all of the "things" that helped you grow and expand) POWER: +Authority/-Authoritarian 7 Degrees of Power: "power manifested in" 1. Crushing Opposition (destroying your designated enemy); 2. Oppressing self/Others (restricting choices and actions); 3. Controlling Self/Others (using guilt, manipulation, regret, shame, rules, etc.); 4. Guiding Self/Others (seeing and sharing solutions); 5. Consciously Choosing (owning the results of choice); 6. Building Spirit/Morale (choosing encouragement); 7. Personal Spiritual Power (full permission to choose without fear of a "wrong" choice) EXPRESSION: +Creativity/-Lies 7 Levels of Expression: "Expression through" 1. Total Destruction, Meltdown, Breakdown; 2. Acting Destructively (publicizing one's destruction, meltdown, or breakdown in hopes of being seen or heard) ; 3. Infamy (being defined by destructive behaviors); 4. Work Projects (crafts, collaborations, career, etc); 5. Entertaining (bringing laughter and levity); 6. Art (authentic originality, honesty and innocence in expression); 7. Renaissance (expansion or transformation of standards and assumptions) ACCEPTANCE: +Openness/-Manipulation 7 Degrees of Acceptance: "Acceptance found in" 1. Ingratiation (groveling, apologizing, losing oneself to the expectations of another); 2. Pleasing Others (programmed by presumed or obvious expectations of others); 3. Tolerance (feigned acceptance while hiding prejudices); 4. Conditional Love (upholding Acceptance based in mutual benefit); 5. Causal Love (recognition of the impact of another or the self in ways that understand the greater benefits that override any pain); 6. Unconditional Love (allowing one to be as one is); 7. True Agape (fully empathizing with another; true affection) COMMUNITY: +Sharing/-Indiscrimination (or Communion) 7 Degrees of Community: "Community experienced through" 1. Desperate Contact (longing, aching, pining, loneliness); 2. Intense Neediness (pushing oneself on others, ignoring all social cues, forcing others to tend to you, narcissism); 3. Fraternizing (bonding only with those who share in familiar experiences or history); 4. Socializing (expanding beyond the comforts of familiarity); 5. [MEntity] Mutual Closeness (kindness); 6. Intimacy/Communion (inclusion); 7. Unity (full embrace of differences as facets of a whole) And, finally: EXCHANGE: +Wisdom/-Gossip 7 Degrees of Exchange: "exchange satisfied through" 1. Slander/Provocation; 2. Venting (sharing of anger or frustration); 3. Idle Chatter (small talk); 4. Trade/Barter; 5. Mutual Profit (benefit exceeds what was exchanged); 6. Understanding (grasping different or opposing perspectives); 7. Teaching/Learning (living as example, or allowing others to inspire) We know we have shared these in various forms over the years, but we share them again, here, so that we can elaborate a bit in ways that may be more relevant to this context of exploring your Needs. What we suggest for each of you to do, then, is to look as honestly as you can at these Needs, and list them from the most unconscious to the most conscious in terms of how you see these are fulfilled in your life. You do not have to do this here. Take your time and look at these over the next few weeks for a full and accurate assessment. However, at this time, if you feel inclined, we invite you to share any concerns or questions that might help your assessments. QUESTIONS [GeraldineB] When are Needs "chosen" and are they changeable over a lifetime in terms of importance? [MEntity] Needs are built into every lifetime and Personality. These are built in as a way to draw fragments toward experiences and relationships. Needs are a form of inherent magnetism that is essential to the whole experience of what is considered to be "life." The complete set of Nine Needs is a defining factor of Sentience, and the more complex an organism, creature, or species, the more of these Needs are in place. However, for non-sentient Species, it is rare that all Nine are in place. So your Needs are ALWAYS active. However, their place in terms of priority or consciousness does fluctuate over a lifetime, depending upon the Personality and its experiences. Needs are not "chosen," then, by the Personality. [GeraldineB] OK -- I understand [ClaireC] I'm having a lot of trouble assessing my most "unconscious" needs. Are they unconscious because they are being fulfilled, or because they are not being fulfilled? [MEntity] The best way to assess the level of consciousness relative to a Need is to look at the symptoms described by the 7 degrees. If you note more familiarity with the lower 3, it is likely being fulfilled unconsciously. As we said: Needs are ALWAYS fulfilled. So it is merely a matter of fulfillment in terms of unconscious (reactionary and destructive), subconscious (auto pilot, comfortable), or conscious (through active choice and sometimes challenging). Next, Maureen. [Maureen] I have my assessment finished. I think I should wait until we can share (what we have individually) as a group. [MEntity] Is that a question? [Maureen] No [Maureen] I'll pass [Janet] At the moment, I don't have any need listed below level 4 based on the symptoms you gave. Is this perhaps associated with having completed the 5th IM? Also, it seems that the needs I've listed at the lowest levels are those that I seem to be 'working' on lately, though I haven't noticed this until now. Is that how the needs bubble up for attention? [MEntity] Yes, and Yes. [Janet] Easy answer! Thanks! [MEntity] The more conscious one tends to be, the more one tends to manifest Essence and True Personality, and this means the more one will tend to fulfill Needs from the conscious tier. This is not always true, but often is true. [Maureen] I have a similar assessment too, Janet. I only have one at Level 4+. [MEntity] The pattern tends to be that the more one is fulfilling one's Needs consciously, the more one tends to be Manifesting Essence and True Personality. However, Manifesting Essence and True Personality is not a guarantee that one is fulfilling Needs consciously. That is because, for many, consciousness must come first, and then be applied to the Needs. This is why we think it of benefit to understand these Needs and how they function as a permanent factor in your life. These are not complicated or dependent upon anything but your effort and choice for fulfillment, and can be a rather rapid means of cascading consciousness to all parts of your life so that True Personality and Essence can Manifest. If you find that your Needs are being fulfilled from 4+, this does not mean they will not drop to below that point any longer. [Janet] Is level 7 fairly rare? [MEntity] However, the more one can sustain fulfillment at 5+, the less-likely one will succumb to any lower fulfillment for any length of time before returning to consciousness. Janet, not rare, but often not "as fun." Many hold off on the final degree because it is often a point of no return, stripping all lower levels of any excitement or submersion. [DianeHB] Why is that? [MEntity] For instance, if one were to sustain the 7th degree of Exchange, it is often simply not as fulfilling to Slander someone, or to tolerate Small Talk. Only the range between 5 and 7 remain of interest. That is not to say one cannot fall below that, but it is simply an empty experience or feels "wrong", "icky," or "gross." Does this make sense? [DianeHB] Yes [Maureen] This is making so much sense Michael [MEntity] What we suggest for each of you as a follow up to this discussion is to share your assessments in your discussion thread, and explore further. We must conclude here for today.
  4. OMW - May 7, 2011 - You and Your Subpersonalities (5 hour session) Channel: Troy Tolley MEntity: Hello to each of you. We are here now. We can begin with the topic requested. We understand the topic to be that of Subpersonalities. This is a subject that is more relevant than may seem to be, at first, because our entire Overleaf Personality System is actually designed for helping one understand the PARTS that are the WHOLE that is greater than the sum of those parts. Though most of you experience yourself as a consistent "I," "you" are actually a collection of fragments of Personality that moves and grows and morphs and rises and falls throughout the lifetime. In the same way that your Essence experiences a wholeness that is greater than the sum of its collection of Personalities throughout time, so does a single Personality experience itself as a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts, which are Subpersonalities. A Subpersonality is an aspect of the self with its own self-image, going so far as to even have its own posture, gestures, behaviors, feelings, etc. Subpersonalities are a part of every Personality. There is no Personality that is a single entity. In our earliest communications, you may find that we refer to each of you as having "fragments," as well as referring to each of you as a fragment, yourself. This is because there is a paradox at work in this universe: that every ONE is MANY. There is nothing that is a single, whole, pure "oneness," yet every fragment is a part of a singular oneness. There are several ways one can visualize this, even from within your most-dense and separated Physical Plane dimensions: one way is through the fact that every solid object in your universe that your body can bump into is, in fact, a collection of particles that spring into a shape that you see/experience as whole, solid, one. And even those particles can be "broken down" into parts. From where we are, we cannot see a conclusion to the truth that there is a ONENESS of which we are all a part, nor can we see a conclusion to the MANY-ness that makes up that Oneness, and we cannot see that conclusion in either direction, so to speak. In other words, we know that there is an even greater oneness beyond even what we consider TAO, and we know that there is more many-ness beyond the subatomic particles, etc. At this point in our experience and knowledge, we do not know if there is an "end" to that in either direction, but we suspect that there is not. As the soul ages, this begins to be suspected, as well, at least in terms relative to the conceptual universe. The sense of self becomes aware that it is comprised of parts, and then that sense of self is aware that it is a part of a greater consciousness that is humanity, and so on. In various systems, these parts are described. Such as in our Overleaves, and in that which is Astrology, or even in Archetypes. Depending on Agreements, each of you will eventually find the teaching and the teachers that will help to bring an awareness of these parts, and then to bring about a synthesis of those parts. That process of synthesis within a lifetime for the Personality is a precursor to the gathering of entity members that will be the synthesis of that entity. Every Essence will have, at least, one lifetime that completes that synthesis, holding within its consciousness the awareness of parts that have become the whole that is greater than those parts. This can happen at any point, with any Personality, but this happens in different ways for different Soul Ages. Every Soul Age will have this experience of synthesis relative to its degree of consciousness, but it is within the Old Soul Age that this synthesis is experienced on a massive scale that goes even beyond the Personality. There is not a particular Level within the Soul Age that this happens, but once it happens, it becomes a rather "addictive" aim for any subsequent Personality. We qualify the term "addictive" because that is not quite an accurate term; it would be more like an uber-challenge or task as an undercurrent for every subsequent life. In our work with Troy, we shared the details of this for every Essence Role in what was titled "The Great Lesson," if you wish to explore that further in the context of this synthesis "addiction." [See Michael Speaks: Conscious Connection to Essence (3 of 3).] To understand that you are comprised of Subpersonalities that make up your sense of self is a first step toward synthesis. Because of the complexity of this infrastructure, we will approach it from several directions today that may shed light on this concept from different angles so that you have a choice in how to go about your personal path toward wholeness. First, we will share insight from within our own teaching, and then expand to other familiar systems that are not in conflict with our own. To continue defining and elaborating on the concept of Subpersonality, we will say that every Subpersonality is born from WANTS and NEEDS. Every Subpersonality is a grown from a WANT/NEED and then a RESOLUTION of those Wants/Needs. Depending on the abundance of or lack of resources for that Want or Need, certain Subpersonalities may become more obvious than others. Every Personality has a minimum of 3 Subpersonalities and most have about 12, but there is no limit. In most cases, these 12 will rotate to the "surface" in groups of 3, depending on the state of the life. Regardless of the number of Subpersonalities, there can only ever be 9 SEEDS that might be at the core of a Subpersonality constellation. In other words, for example, 1 Seed can have 3 variations of Subpersonality. These "Seeds" are actually NEEDS/WANTS described by "The Nine Needs." SECURITY, ADVENTURE, FREEDOM, EXPRESSION, POWER, EXCHANGE, ACCEPTANCE, COMMUNION, and EXPANSION. So, for example, the Seed of Security could bring about a Subpersonality that develops around Blind Faith as a form of Security, as well as a Subpersonality that develops around False Hope as a form of Security, and one that develops around Tradition as a form of Security. Every NEED/WANT must be fulfilled within a lifetime to some degree, and the process of fulfilling those Needs/Wants is done through the development of Subpersonalities. Depending on the degree of consciousness a Personality develops for dispersion among Subpersonalities is the degree to which a Need/Want is fulfilled. We will define consciousness here as: an understanding of consequences. Or more accurately: a comprehension of consequences as a result of actions (or choices). The Older the soul, the more likely the higher degree of consciousness of the Personality, but that is no guarantee, of course. Wants/Needs can be described in many ways, and this is how Subpersonalities are born in so many ways, depending on how one understands his or her Wants/Needs. Regardless of how one understand his or her Wants/Needs, they will ALWAYS go back to one of the 9 Seeds/Needs. For instance, if a person feels lonely, and craves the intimate touch of someone who loves him or her, then a Subpersonality may develop around this Want/Need, but at its core will be the Seed of, maybe, Security, or Acceptance, for instance. For purposes of clarity during this discussion, we will use the term SEED for these usual "9 needs" terms, so as to keep the confusion minimal, even though they are all rather interchangeable terms. Every SEED, then, has a dimension of WANT, NEED, and RESOLUTION. Those three dimensions will always exist for every Seed. A person may describe something as a WANT, but there will always be a Need attached, and then the means for resolution of them. A person may describe something as a Need, but there will always be a Want attached, and then the means for resolution. We will differentiate the terms here by stating that a WANT is a creative and conscious path for fulfilling a NEED. NEEDS will ALWAYS be fulfilled to some degree, but to the degree that this is consciously fulfilled is the degree to which one is using Choice. So our first practice for you to use in helping you understand your Subpersonalities, and what might exist within you, would be to use this system of reflection. We will delineate a means for doing this now, and then discuss this with you. What you would want to do is look at this delineation of potential Subpersonality constellations that can grow from these 9 Seeds. Start with 1 to 3 of these Seeds/Needs that stand out to you as prominent in your life, either currently or overall, and then look to one of those degrees of fulfillment that is a part of each Seed/Need, and see where in that spectrum of fulfillment a Subpersonality may be existing/functioning for you. THE 9 POTENTIAL SEEDS of SUBPERSONALITIES, and the degrees of conscious function for each: SEED OF SECURITY: Functioning/Fulfilled through Blind Faith, False Hope, Tradition, Theories, Reliable Sources, Experience/Intuition, Tao (absolute trust); SEED OF ADVENTURE: Functioning/Fulfilled through Drama, Addictions, Physical Stimulation, Mental Stimulation, Revelations, Essence Contact, Enlightenment (full implementation of personal philosophies); SEED OF FREEDOM: Functioning/Fulfilled through Irresponsibility, Aimlessness, Physical Liberation, Mental Liberation, Emotional Liberation, Conscious Choice, Peace (absolute awareness of full potential); SEED OF EXPANSION: Functioning/Fulfilled through Illness/Cancers, Accumulation/Hoarding, Sprawling, Realizations, Inspirations, Transformations, Prosperity (absolute gratitude); SEED OF POWER: Functioning/Fulfilled through Destruction, Oppression, Control, Guidance, Confidence, Ethics, Compassion; SEED OF EXPRESSION: Functioning/Fulfilled through Insanity/Total Delusion, Recklessness, Infamy, Projects, Entertainment, Art, Renaissance (rebirth); SEED OF ACCEPTANCE: Functioning/Fulfilled through Ingratiation, Subservience, Tolerance, Conditions/Conditional Love, Causal Love, Unconditional Love, Agape (true affection); SEED OF COMMUNION: Functioning/Fulfilled through Desperation, Neediness, Fraternizing, Socializing, Mutuality, Intimacy, Unity (spiritual resonance); SEED OF EXCHANGE: Functioning/Fulfilled through Slander/War, Gossip, Small Talk/Banter, Trade/Barter, Mutual Profit/gain, Understanding, Comprehension (true teaching/learning). First: which ONE to THREE of these Seeds could be said to be prominent demands (needs/wants) in your life, and to what degree within that/those seed/s do you feel you function/fulfill? An easy way to assess this is to look at the list of Seeds/Needs and fill in the statement: "I know I could not live without _______" For most of you, at least one of these would stand out. For instance, some of you would "die" if you did not have Exchange in your life on some level. The Need for Exchange is a driving force that MUST be actively fulfilled to some degree, and this would be a Seed for one of your more obvious Subpersonalities. [Geraldine] Michael -- It appears that each function moves from negative pole to positive pole in steps -- so, each of these subpersonalities would be similarly defined? MEntity: That would be correct, and those "poles" would be degrees ranging between unconscious to conscious. EVERY NEED will be fulfilled, even if unconsciously in some way. As you can see, the more conscious the fulfillment, the more active and conscious one must be in the process. And by definition, this would mean comprehending the consequences of the path to fulfilling that Need. We now ask for volunteers to share what may have come up for him or her in reading these, or ask your questions that may be required for clarification so that you may assess yourself. [Geraldine] and one can choose more than one term in a Seed, right? (i.e., have more than one subpersonality) MEntity: Yes, Geraldine. There may be a Subpersonality that has been born from the Seed of Exchange, and one functions on the level for managing Small Talk, while another manages Mutual Gain. [Geraldine] SEED OF EXPANSION: Illness/Cancers, Accumulation/Hoarding [Geraldine] OK I'll start as I have ongoing physical health issues that really do define me (my mobility) -- but I would have thought Accumulation to be a security issue [EricM] SECURITY: False Hope, Reliable Sources, Experience/Intuition [Diane_H] Security: Reliable Sources, Experience/Intuition [EricM] FREEDOM: Aimlessness [Diane_H] also Theories [AnnH] Acceptance: subservience, tolerance, condit/uncon love [Geraldine] SEED OF EXCHANGE: Gossip, Small Talk/Banter, Understanding; but, I was able to find 1 or more per seed, too MEntity: Geraldine, Security does not require MORE, so Accumulation, while possibly being tied to "things" that bring Security, is about the emphasis on MORE. [Geraldine] ok -- then I have that under control as I severely limit the urge to hoard [AnnH] What is the definition of causal love? MEntity: Yes, Geraldine, we think that most who are in this group will be able to find, at least, 12 Subpersonalities. Causal Love is the comprehension of the effects of Love, and the intention behind those effects. It could also be understood, then, as Intentional Love. In other words, it is the practice of loving, even if that loving includes not loving - knowing that loving is inclusive even of the struggle to love. [Jill] They all stand out [AnnH] Michael, are the SEEDS related to the degrees of fulfillment as discussed in Wholeness of Souls course? [DavidB] Power: Control and Compassion. Though I frankly see something of myself in most of the seeds. MEntity: A scenario might be in someone's intention to "love" someone so as to help that person, to heal that person, to always "be there" for him or her, to set an example for what loving looks like and feels like, and so on. It may not be unconditional, because it is usually contextual. [AnnH] yes, that makes sense [Geraldine] OK -- so, it can be for just one person, not the world in general [DavidB] also Acceptance: Conditional Love [AnnH] but causal is different. [AnnH] causal is modeling love for a particular person. MEntity: Geraldine, it can be either. [Geraldine] It's part of the negative to positive pole slide -- contracted to expanded [AnnH] that makes sense! [Geraldine] all of these terms are MEntity: Ann, Causal Love can be a modeling of love for a particular person, but more importantly it is the Intention that differentiates this kind of Love from another. [Jill] I'd like to know how many I have [Martha] Adventure: Essence Contact, Revelation, Enlightenment MEntity: To go back to our example: to love someone by "always being there," is a Causal form of Love, but this will not mean you always Love this person outside of your intention to express that Love by "being there." [Martha] and Expression: art, renaissance [AnnH] expression: entertainment, art [EricM] ah, so then for me Acceptance: subservience and causal love [DavidB] I seem to slide back and forth on the Freedom spectrum. looks like I have more than one sub there. ? [Martha] and expression: entertainment [AnnH] Freedom: Emotional Liberation (or rather I struggle with it) [EricM] Freedom: Aimlessness [Martha] exchange: small talk, understanding, comprehension [ClaireC] Adventure, mental stimulation [Martha] community: socializing, mutuality, intimacy [DavidB] hehe. I guess we're complicated, to put it nicely. Lol [Maureen] I have one over-riding one right now : SEED OF EXCHANGE: Mutual Profit/gain, Understanding, Comprehension (true teaching/learning). MEntity: TO CONTINUE.... NEXT: Look at this first assessment (which may change with further understanding), and circle (figuratively or literally) only those that are most-obvious and without question. You may have decided on a few, but there should be at least one that is without question. Keep in mind that you WILL find many among these descriptions, and all of you here appear to have, at least, 12 Subpersonalities, and some of you have many more. What you would want to do for the sake of this workshop is to determine just one to start with, so that the next steps can be better understood, and then you may go back and work with more. We see several examples being posted, so we will ask for one more listing, for the sake of clarity in the next steps: Pick ONE SEED, and ONE DEGREE OF FUNCTIONING that seems to stand out. List that now. [EricM] Freedom: Aimlessness [Geraldine] Exchange - comprehension [Maureen] SEED OF EXCHANGE: Comprehension (true teaching/learning). [Martha] expression: art [DavidB] SEED OF POWER: Control [ClaireC] Seed of Adventure: Mental Stimulation [Jill] Seed of Security: False Hope [AnnH] Security: Theories [Diane_H] Security: Reliable Sources MEntity: NEXT: NAME this Subpersonality. This name may come suddenly, because it has always been there, or it may come creatively. [Geraldine] Sparkette [AnnH] Bubblehead MEntity: In naming this Subpersonality, there are two most-effective ways of doing so: affectionate names or comical names, or a combination. [DavidB] Controlling Craig? ? [Jill] Pauline MEntity: Even if your comical or affectionate name is "normal," but triggers that context, such as "Pauline." [Geraldine] as in "perils of. . ." [EricM] jack MEntity: Or "Craig," with the playful descriptor. [Maureen] Apple of my Eye [Diane_H] I want to call mine "Mom". lol [ClaireC] Daring Diva MEntity: NEXT: Once you have settled upon a name, GIVE IT LIFE. What we mean by this is: this Subpersonality exists, whether you are conscious of it, or not. It WILL function/fulfill its Seed Need for "you" in some way, whether you like it, or not. [AnnH] Actually, mine does not like the name Bubble Head, she'd rather be Serious Sally [Martha] Bernadette [Geraldine] Then, I guess you'd better rename her, Ann [AnnH] She's Serious Sally [AnnH] David, I just sort of imagine her in my mind MEntity: By "Giving It Life," you will have moved through the second stage of synthesis for yourself on your path to wholeness, and stepped into the third stage: Acceptance, and Cooperation, respectively. Giving these Subpersonalities "Life" means using your Imagination; using your creativity, which inherently draws from many parts of you, contributing to the process of synthesis. [Geraldine] Sparkette is my spark of brilliant intuition, a fragment of a fragment, a piece off the ole block, Sparky (Essence). [DavidB] I just spoke to that aspect of myself that feels the need to control others and situations and informed it that I acknowledged its existence and was naming it Craig for now. [EricM] Jack is laughing, since his name came from "jack of all trades, jack sparrow" etc MEntity: The 5 Stages toward Synthesis are: Awareness, Acceptance, Cooperation, Integration, and Synthesis, itself. The key for most of you here would be in the Cooperation Stage. The Awareness and Acceptance part are rather "easy," but it is in the Cooperation that the "fun part" begins. So, NEXT: To Cooperate means that when this Subpersonality appears, "you" become aware of this, and develop a means for communicating, understanding, and then implementing. Communication with this Subpersonality can be as playful and as creative as you make it, as long as this is followed by Understanding. By this we mean that the Communication bears meaning. It is not simply to make light of the Needs/Wants of this part of you, but to help him or her, because he or she ONLY EXISTS FOR YOU. As YOU only exist for ESSENCE, so do your Subpersonalities only exist for YOU. As we said, these Subpersonalities are born from Need/Want. You HAVE Subpersonalities, but you are NOT the Subpersonalities. Your Essence HAS Personalities, but is NOT the Personalities. This may seem paradoxical, because it is, but with a little creative thinking, this is not perplexing. When we say that the "whole is greater than the sum of its parts," it is a reference to this paradox of oneness vs many, and how the many actually generate what is this oneness. An easy analogy might be: To say that a Garden is one of the single flowers within that Garden would be inaccurate, but the Garden could not exist without the many single flowers. And so it is that "You," as a Personality, are the Garden that is the many flowers that are your Subpersonalities, and equally so is your Essence is the Garden of every bloom that is a Personality in its collection of incarnations. We think the Garden metaphor is appropriate, because "you" are the Gardener, and the tending to those flowers/subpersonalities in more and more conscious ways is what evolves you. Using the 9 Seeds, you can explore yourself in a way that might reveal to you these various ways in which Subpersonalities run things for you, and then you can communicate with these, develop an understanding, and then implement that understanding through choices and decisions. Keep in mind: The lesser the degree of fulfillment for a Seed, the more it is only a NEED, which means it will be fulfilled by any means possible, even to its own demise. The higher the degree of fulfillment for a Seed, the more it is a WANT, which generates creative and conscious paths to the fulfillment. This is because the greater the degree of consciousness, the greater the capacity for comprehending consequences of Choice. This means, if your Subpersonality is further down in the degrees of fulfillment, the more likely "you" will have to bring patience, kindness, nurturing, etc., to your Cooperation with that Subpersonality. The further down the degree of fulfillment, the more likely that Subpersonality is locked into a certain time frame, or age range, from "your" past. Part of your "Cooperation" then would be in helping to bring that Subpersonality up to date, up to speed, and to educate it, enlighten it, show it that there are other ways. [DavidB] so different subpersonalities can be at different levels of fulfillment with the same seed, but all of them can evolve to the seed's highest level of fulfillment? MEntity: We will answer your question in a moment, David. Our next bit of information may help answer that on its own. It is never helpful to reject these parts of you that behave in ways that you know are not so enlightened or empowered or appropriate. The further down in the degree of fulfillment, the more distinct and dominant the Subpersonality may be, especially within the contexts of fulfillment for that Seed. The further up in the degree of fulfillment, the more ethereal, and amorphous that Subpersonality may be, with the fulfillment of that Seed being almost an inherent foundation for the life. The further down in the degree of fulfillment, the more likely there are distinct and separate Subpersonalities functioning on different levels for that Seed. The further up in the degree of fulfillment (5 and above), the more likely there is no distinction for different levels, but a more slippery or wavering fulfillment of various degrees within two or three degrees. The 7th Degree of fulfillment is a product of synthesis in itself, and all Subpersonalities for that Seed that have ever existed now "collapse" into a single entity, so that this Seed now would either have only one representative, or so integrate with "you," that there is no sense of identity there. [AnnH] Can there be different levels of fulfillment in different situations? In other words, can I, for example, have a subpersonality who experiences conscious choice and another who experiences mental liberation, given the situation? MEntity: Ann, yes. As long as there is no 7th Degree of fulfillment for that Seed, then various Degrees could be fulfilled in various contexts. But once the 7th Degree is reached, it "spreads" into every scenario. Communicating with, Understanding, and then Implementing Understanding for any Subpersonality brings a Seed closer to True Fulfillment/Function. Cooperation can come in many forms, but we can say that if your Subpersonality appears to be from 3 Degrees or below for a Seed, then HEALING is necessary as a form of Cooperation. Cooperation can come in many forms, but we can say that if your Subpersonality appears to be from 5 degrees or above for a Seed, then CREATIVITY is the foundation for your Cooperation. Healing may include Creativity, and Creativity may include Healing, but using those differentiating terms can help your focus of Cooperation. The 4th could use either. We can conclude here, or take questions based on what we have shared, or we can continue into how your Natal Chart in Astrology may give you clues for even greater understanding of your Subpersonalities. [Geraldine] Since there are many parallels where we exist, I assume these personalities also have both the existing subpersonalities that they had at time of divergence, but also ones created subsequently. When a convergence happens and brings in these other subpersonalities, what problems can this cause? MEntity: Subpersonalities are managed in much the same way that Personalities are managed when it comes to Merging and Diverging: the more harmonious move together, and the more discordant generate divergences. If the Personality of one Parallel has a multitude of Subpersonalities that are dominant and in conflict with another Parallel's Subpersonalities, a merging will not happen. If there are minimal differences, then those conflicting Subpersonalities either become a more complex dimension of the Personality, or one of them "gives," so to speak. For example, if 10 of the 11 Subpersonalities of two Parallels are similar enough, then the 1 Subpersonality (from each Parallel) would go one of three routes: move the count of Subpersonalities to 12; merge into each other as a more complex version; or one would absorb the other. Since Subpersonalities rise and fall throughout a lifetime, however this merging would happen is not a very relevant or obvious factor in a parallel merging. [Maureen] Michael – this is uncanny! You have described CBE (Core Belief Engineering - a brilliant psychotherapy process I have worked with) – to a ‘T’ right down to the way you would ‘talk to’ or ‘treat’ a Part, all the steps, the synthesis, etc. Is this a coincidence or is there some ‘collusion’ that goes on at your mid-causal ‘strategy sessions’ ? MEntity: What we have described can be described in many ways by many teachers, and this is less about coincidence and collusion than it is about the nature of truth. Subpersonalities exist as a matrix for Personality, and so it goes that this would be realized in many different ways by many different Personalities at some point, even if called by as many different phrases and titles. No teacher's teaching is ever truly original, but a conglomeration of integrated experiences that were gained from their own learning and teachers. Astrology and your Subpersonalities: We are not Astrologers, and we do not pretend that Astrology can easily be superimposed over our Overleaf System or our Teaching, but as mentioned before: the nature of truth is that it can be found to be consistent from many angles. Because Subpersonalities can be rather evasive in working with, we described the 9 Seeds as a map for helping you to find them within you, but your Natal Chart also holds fairly specific, concrete, and valid clues as to how and where your Subpersonalities came into existence, and this does tie a bit into our own system of Overleaves and terms. First, your Subpersonalities are of biological origins. They may seem to be figments of your imagination, or parts of the psyche, but they spring from the Physical. And this makes sense, as "you" also spring from the Physical, or biological. Personality is a biological, or genetic, construct at its base. Consciousness RISES from this base matrix within a lifetime, and then the "you" that you carry forward from the life is what "you" recognize as "you." Before "you" recognize yourself as "you," you are only ever a SEED. We used the term "seed" earlier for describing the 9 Needs/Wants/Seeds that generate Subpersonalities from within the Personality; Now we briefly use this same term to describe the biology that gives birth to the consciousness that becomes "you." You may think "you" exist before you are born, but that is not the case. Your Essence exists. And your Essence's idea for "you" exists. But "you" create YOU. And that is how Essence evolves. In the same way that your Subpersonalities evolve You. Wheels within wheels. Part of how your Essence creates you is by using Astrology. The planetary arrangements at the time of your conception and the time of your birth, both, play tremendous factors in what is potential within your Personality. Most of the influences at the time of conception are focused on the development of the Body, while the influences at the time of birth are focused on the Personality. In looking at your Natal Chart, the first three Houses are what would be described as the First Quadrant; the next three would be the Second; the next three, the Third, and 10, ll, and 12 are the Fourth. If one were to think of the Natal Chart as the garden we described earlier, the Planets "sprinkled" among this are the Seeds at birth. Those Planets in the First Quadrant, if any, would be those that develop almost immediately and build as a kind of core for the lifetime. These usually indicate the Subpersonalities that will require the most healing, often carried over by themes from other lifetimes, or Karma, etc., and so the life begins building those, first. Those Planets in the Second Quadrant might describe the Subpersonalities that would spring to life after after the 2nd Internal Monad and into the 3rd, and would be most obvious in realms of relationships, family, contributions, etc. Those Planets in the Third Quadrant might describe those Subpersonalities that spring to life during the 4th Internal Monad, and would show up most obviously in your chosen relationships, and your sense of identity as it relates to "the world." Where the Second Quadrant relates to default relationships (family, etc), the Third relates to chosen relationships, which may include family, but is often friendships, long-term matedness, partnerships, etc. The Third also includes the sense of relationship within, or to the self. And the Fourth Quadrant would house Planets that represent the Subpersonalities that might spring to life in the 5th Internal Monad, or in the sense of place in the cosmos, humanity, the earth, etc. Any Planets below the horizon, or in Houses 1-6, would be those representing more unconscious or default Subpersonalities that either eventually dominate, or evolve, and these often start at the lower end of the degrees of fulfillment (1 to 4). Any Planets above the horizon, or in Houses 7 - 12, would be those representing more obvious, or conscious Subpersonalities that may behave almost seamlessly with "you," fulfilling degrees of 5 or higher for any relevant Need/Want/Seed. This might become obvious when looking at the symbolism, as those Houses below the horizon describe contexts that are usually already in momentum before consciousness has a chance to build, and therefore must build up from within those contexts. To the degree that your Planets are below the Horizon is the degree to which your Essence probably intended very specific plans for "you." Many who are in a 6th Level will find a bulk of Planets below the Horizon, for instance. With some creativity, some of you may find correlation between the known Planets, their symbolism, and the 9 Seeds we already described, but if you cannot find correlation, that is to be expected. These are different ways of mapping, so they may not correlate easily. Before we describe the Planets as they symbolize the influences that become your Subpersonalities that become "you," we will ask now if there are any questions about what we have shared so far. [DavidB] What could be said of Essence's plan for someone with a majority of planets above the horizon? For example, 9 of my 10 are. I'm asking generally, of course. MEntity: If the bulk of your Planets are above the Horizon, it may indicate the degree to which the overall life was "unplanned" to any degree of detail, which means those with the bulk above horizon might often feel that the life is either a meandering and wandering, or with a momentum and no one really driving. However, to the degree that a Quadrant is dense with planets is the degree to which that area of the life might then "kick in" the "plans" that may have been most-intended. [Martha] so loaded 3rd quad hits during 4th IM MEntity: If a Quadrant is completely free of any Planets, that Quadrant is often as a major emphasis for the life as a major context, free from biases and influences and Subpersonalities. [DavidB] Do you have any particular house system in mind to divide 1st quadrant from 2nd and 3rd from 4th? MEntity: We know there are various House Systems, so we suggest experimenting and using the one that makes sense to you, as they are all symbolic, and what resonates with you is yours. For instance, our Channel, Troy, has Houses 10 through 12 free, which allows us to come through to a degree that is free from most anything "Troy," as he is focused elsewhere in his life. [Maureen] So if someone has a 'loaded' 12th house - their 'real' work might 'kick in' during the 5th IM? MEntity: Maureen, that would be one way that it shows up, but it may also be said that it would "kick in" within the context of contributions to humanity or the bigger picture, and does not require the passage of the 5th Internal Monad. Though, often, those with a density in 4th Quadrant do find the clarity and sense of purpose during or after the 5th Internal Monad. [AnnH] If I have houses 2-5 free, what would that mean? MEntity: Again, when a Quadrant is empty, it usually becomes a non-charged, but major underlying theme throughout everything. Biases and Subpersonalities will not affect that Quadrant. [Maureen] My first Quadrate could be considered 'empty' - how would that show up? MEntity:In your case, Maureen, it might be said that the perception of the inner self, the core of a person, their wounds, their past, their needs for healing, etc., can be seen as crystal clear to you. You just "know." [Geraldine] My 3rd and 4th are nearly empty -- it's like I should have died long ago MEntity: The density or lack of Planets in a Quadrant has no bearing on how long the life will be or should be. They are contexts. And while some activations occur in the context of linear progression, activations also occur in the contexts of categories/relationships. [EricM] So then a packed first quadrant would then suggest many subpersonalities dealing with the core or the self, or a heavily planned lifetime? MEntity: Both. It would most likely indicate that, at least, Essence's idea for this lifetime was to deal with patterns that are across lifetimes, and the Subpersonalities required for this would get a head start, very early in the life. We point out here that your Astrology gives you an idea for what Essence thought was a good plan and idea for this life, and what YOU did with that can be a very different story. NOW, on to the Planets and their symbolism. First, the Sun will represent the True and False Personality, or how the Personality will show up in terms of manifesting Unity or Division, or Love vs Fear, or Essence vs Defenses, etc. Depending on where your Sun is, it can give you insights into how you run the whole of "you." This would be the "I" of you. It is often a meeting or battling ground, and indicates the aim of synthesis, for the Subpersonalities for the lifetime. Using our channel's Sun Sign as an example, we could say that all of his Subpersonalities meet, battle, and evolve relative to his Sun in the Second Quadarant of default relationships, in his 6th House as it is ruled by Aquarius. Translating this would mean that most of Troy's Subpersonalities battle or harmonize as they work through the default relationships that contributed to their births, and this is then played out in the realm of his Health, Responsibilities, and True Work/Life Tasks. We will not describe the contexts for each individual House at this time, but a quick glance at the system can give you insight as to where your own Subpersonalities battle or harmonize in your life. The House that the Sun is in would give you that insight. The Sign would give you the aim of Synthesis for the lifetime that these Subpersonalities would bring. For instance, Troy's would find Synthesis through the higher qualities that are Aquarian, which includes humanitarianism, equal rights, sharing of knowledge, wisdom, etc. The rest of the Planets would describe the Seeds, in the context of Astrology, that were planted as potential developments of Subpersonalities for the Personality. Keep in mind: Those Planets BELOW the horizon indicate Subpersonalities that probably already exist, and have existed from childhood, and have either evolved in status or remain problematic. Those Planets ABOVE the horizon indicate those Subpersonalities that may have developed mid-life, or in broader contexts of chosen relationships and relationships to humanity or spirit. The MOON can indicate the most unconscious of your Subpersonalities, where your greatest potential for True Personality could come, and is loosely relevant to the Seed of EXPRESSION. In other words, the Moon indicates what truly motivates your presence in the world, and often this is unconscious, but when it becomes conscious and accepted, this becomes a path for True Personality. The Subpersonalities that arise from this are usually relevant to Expression, and indicates the most sensitive of Subpersonalities. If this Planet is below the Horizon, it probably means you developed a sensitivity early in life regarding your Expression in the world, and this sprung forth Subpersonalities as a result. If this Planet is above the Horizon, it may be something that did not come into question until later in life, or at least it did not become a matter of awareness until then. We will speed through the rest more briefly, as we know this class has gone long. MERCURY indicates those Subpersonalities that may have sprung up relative to EXCHANGE, and relative to your ATTITUDE as it began to show in you. VENUS indicates those Subpersonalities that may have sprung up relative to COMMUNION, and relative to how your MODE functions in you. MARS indicates those Subpersonalities that may have sprung up relative to ADVENTURE, and how your Goal functions for you. JUPITER indicates those Subpersonalities that may have sprung up relative to EXPANSION, and the pursuit of creating meaning. SATURN indicates those Subpersonalities that may have sprung up relative to SECURITY, and those that arose to implement your Chief Negative Features. URANUS indicates those Subpersonalities that arose as seekers of The Truth in your life, managing your Higher Intellectual Center, and relative to POWER. NEPTUNE indicates those Subpersonalities that arose as seekers of Love/Agape in the life, managing your Higher Emotional Center, and relative to ACCEPTANCE. PLUTO indicates those Subpersonalities that arose as seekers of BEAUTY (or identifying patterns within chaos), managing your Higher Moving Center, and relative to FREEDOM. Putting together what we have shared today, then, can help you to understand the fragmentation that is within you in a way that is not seen as "broken," but is seen as the very matrix from which "you" spring, and that to care for those fragments is to care for you. To communicate with, understand, and implement that understanding of those fragments, or Subpersonalities, within you is to reach within for the wholeness that would then allow you to reach beyond you in ways that may never have been thought possible, or even imagined. In effect, this is what Essence does for every Personality in the end. And it is only then that the Cycling Off occurs. Cycling off cannot occur without Essence fully comprehending a profound depth of Truth, Love, and Beauty that is the entirety of its path through every Personality, who, each, gave rise to the possibility for that very Truth, Love, and Beauty. And so it is that a relative profundity is experienced by any Personality who understands what gave rise to its very consciousness within the lifetime. And we will conclude here for today.
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