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May 16, 2002 Troy Tolley, Channel You and your attitude [M_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. We understand the topic to be that of Attitudes as they are defined within our teaching. Of course, there are 7 Attitudes, as there are 7 of every other Overleaf in our system. The 7 Attitudes are the Neutral or Assimilative PRAGMATIST, the Inspirational Stoic and Spiritualist, the Expressional Skeptic and Idealist, and the Actional Cynic and Realist. The Attitudes are specifically your personal means to interpret reality. The Attitudes could easily be said to be The 7 Basic Philosophies, as much of what is our more complete system now has been found isolated in various teachings throughout the ages. Each Attitude can easily find a correlation of a philosophy, which can shed a great deal of light on your personal Attitude. The Attitude could be said to be the “pivot” or “hinge” within our Personality System around which all other facets of your Personality move. Because the Attitude is intrinsically linked to your Intellect, the Attitude can “make or break” your sense of peace, trust, wholeness, etc. Whether you are Intellectually Centered or not, you still have an Intellect, and that Intellect works hard to interpret and make sense of reality. So, too, does your Attitude. It will go a long way toward freeing you from the traps of the Attitude and Intellect if you understand that it is not necessarily “the point” to “make sense” of reality, because literally, it is the opposite: your senses MAKE reality. Though we say your Attitude “interprets” reality, it may be more effective to understand that your Attitude “filters” reality. Both are valid descriptions. Though an Attitude is far from an imposition, it CAN be a limitation if you find you are not able to function within your ;particular Attitude's full spectrum of use. It can easily be said that, from the absolute worst struggles, to the most trivial of frustrations, these experiences are directly a reflection of how you are using your Attitude. When your Attitude is in its Negative Pole, regardless of what that may be, you have determined that you have completed your need for input for your basic philosophical stance. When the Negative Pole of the Attitude is in control, reality loses its creativity and flexibility, and instead becomes a tangled mess that must be understood immediately, even if the means to do so have not even come to pass. We can speak generally of Attitudes because the basic experience is quite consistent; it is the HOW of it all that is different among them. For instance, an Idealist in the Negative Pole and a Cynic in the Negative Pole will both share the struggle of trying to understand something within a limitation of input, but the Idealist will “naively” bumble his way through, while the Cynic will use “denigration” to destroy anything outside his comprehension. In the case of the Cynic, we do not mean an attempt to literally destroy, but that the Cynic will actively fight to remove any contradictions from his determined perception. In the case of each Axis of Attitude, you will find when they are in the Negative Pole, the reaction of the Attitude is to eliminate the Positive Pole experiences. When the Stoic is “resigned,” he will use inspiration to lead others into resignation, to validate his own perceptions. The Spiritualist will use inspiration to impose his beliefs on others as strongly as possible, to remove the need for verifying his perceptions. The Skeptic will simply express strong suspicions, riling others into an insecure space of perception, to remove the need for investigation. The Idealist will naively take on lofty goals and intentions, either with or without awareness, setting himself up for failure, so as to remove the experience of coalescence, which is the bringing together of parts to make a whole. The Cynic will actively remove all that contradicts his own determined perception. The Realist will insist that her perceptions are based in fact, even against the strongest of feedback that she is inaccurate, so as to remove her from having to be Objective. In addition, the Pragmatist will continue doing things, thinking about things, expressing things, exactly as they have worked for her to her satisfaction, regardless of the fact that input is dictating that there are more practical ways for the same things. The reason the Negative Pole is so strongly interested in eliminating the Positive Pole experiences is because the Attitude is the “brother or sister” to the Chief Features. We speak of these traits with anthropomorphic descriptions, only for the sake of relating, but we do not wish for you to mistake this means of description as if these parts of you are a separate consciousness. We do not say that they are, nor do we imply that they are. Because of our limitation of time, we will quickly point out what we believe may be the most important concern for your understanding of the Attitudes. Since the Attitude can be your prison or your means to complete freedom, we believe that when you are struggling in any area of your life, the first place to look would be to your Attitude. In understanding your Attitude, you would clearly be able to see that you may be in the Negative Pole, but the fastest and most effective means to move yourself out of it, is simply to choose a different angle of perception. Since the Attitude, while in the Negative Pole, so intently seeks to remove the experience of the Positive Pole of your Attitude, the “trick” is to use the Positive Pole of the Attitude that shares your Axis. If the effort is made, within minutes your life can change; or at least your attitude toward it, which can then lead to changing your life. When the Spiritualist is lost in her Beliefs and continues to find she is blocked from real, fulfilling Verification of her perceptions, it can free her to “slide” to the Positive Pole of Stoicism, which would be Tranquility. When Belief is in control, there is usually a strong need to get others to share in the belief, even if you, yourself have not Verified its place in your life. When the Spiritualist slides to Tranquility, she relaxes and surrenders gently to her perceptions. This then allows her to Verify things for herself, instead of finding others to do it for her. On the other hand, the Stoic may have given up on his life, resigning, which is a passive stance to the life. If he were to slide to Verification, he would be able to find that much of what he has resigned himself to is not even valid anymore as an imposition. We may not be able to go through all of the Attitudes with examples, but we will note that the Pragmatist has the ability to slide to ANY of the other Attitudes as a means to free himself from Dogma. We will now take any questions you may have, so we can respond to you, rather than use your time teaching what may already be available in print. QUESTIONS [MDFSage_Val] Can you describe a “spectrum of use” for an Idealist, or is this more an individual fragment thing/issue? [M_Entity] An Idealist lives within the spectrum of being “cursed” and “blessed” with the constant want for improvement. The Idealist has such a wider vision of most things that he can see patterns where others cannot. Within those patterns, he can also see how they can be improved, manipulated, or altered for the better. The struggle then comes from the Idealist being able to see the big picture, but not putting the effort into defining the STEPS it will take to get there. Therein lies the spectrum from Naivety to Coalescence. An Idealist can see that he has potential to run a marathon, but instead of taking the steps to prepare, he simply, naively runs in the marathon, until he collapses from the pain he could have avoided. [Suzanne] Michael, How would be best for an idealist & a spiritualist to relate to each other, one expresses while the other inspires? [M_Entity] The Spiritualist will always interpret relationships in terms of how inspiring they are, while the Idealist will interpret the relationships in terms of how much improvement is coming from them. [Suzanne] Rather interesting, as it can compliment. [M_Entity] If the Spiritualist feels her relationships are not inspiring, or that she is not inspiring, she will lose interest. The Idealist must feel as if the relationships are somehow improving each other, or he will feel they are not worth it. [Suzanne] Thank you, I understand better now [M_Entity] We are using pronouns randomly, for the sake of grammar. We are not intending anything to be specifically assigned to a gender. [Suzanne] Understood that too, thanks. [M_Entity] The Spiritualist could be said to be “cursed” and “blessed” with the philosophy that everything has potential. Within that spectrum, you will find the experiences ranging from blind faith or belief to valid verification of those potentials. We will point out one last point for your consideration before concluding tonight. When you are in the Negative Pole of your Attitude, you may find you are behaving more and more like the Attitude sharing your Axis, or attracting, or attracted to, those who share your Axis. This is your inherent move toward balance in perception and even if this is done without awareness, it manages, at least, to continue to give the option of choosing how you interpret your reality. So, an Idealist may tend to be very critical and skeptical as a means to balance his Idealism; the Spiritualist may find she is becoming less and less emotional and more passive as she seeks balance for her Beliefs. We shared as much as we could within your time allotted. We have much more to say about this topic, of course. We will conclude here. Good Night to all of you.
Ask Michael – Open Floor June 7, 2015 Channel: Troy Tolley 12:24:05 PM PeterK: Does positive thinking manifest a positive reality? If so, what is the process or mechanism by which this occurs? MEntity: There is validity to the power of "positive" thinking, but only insofar as that positivity is inclusive, and not exclusive. If "positive" thinking is exclusionary, then it is often merely a delusional tactic to avoid unpleasant elements of the life. MEntity: To be truly "positive," one must embrace the "negative." MEntity: If one is struggling with a terminal illness, it can be most powerful to enlist a positive attitude, but not as a means to escape the reality of the struggle, but to add strength to the very real struggle that may be involved. MEntity: To understand the way that true positive thinking would work is to understand the difference between closing one's eyes to hide from the darkness, and letting one's eyes adjust so that one can see better in the darkness. MEntity: True Positivity is aimed at SEEING, FEELING, and THINKING more, not less. MEntity: When one aims for True Positivity, then one can navigate more to one's benefit. MEntity: Another way to understand True Positivity vs false positivity/escape is to understand that every great meal will be met with the necessity for defecation. One does not avoid eating just to avoid defecation, and if one does so, one is killing the self. MEntity: There are many examples we can give, but we think these help to clarify the benefit of positive thinking vs "positive thinking." 12:36:18 PM ViP: Can you give a brief description of how breathing affects the processes of the brain, mind, and any other part of the body that affects thinking? ViP: Many meditative practices, as well as hatha yoga, emphasize breath control to a great degree and I wanted to understand how this functions better, if you could give a brief description of it. MEntity: Breathing is an automated function that one does not have to monitor as a means to survive. This is true of many functions of the body. MEntity: However, of all the biological functions that one runs automatically, it is one of only a few that can most immediately be measured, monitored, and brought to your awareness. MEntity: It does not require machinery to provide feedback, or a long-term monitoring process to see effects from more mindful control. MEntity: One does not have to depend upon one's status, income, or state of health for access to this function. MEntity: Yes, health can interfere with this function, but unless one is not breathing at all, or completely unconscious, it is still very likely in one's control to some degree. MEntity: This is why this biological function was found to be most effective in helping to bring consciousness to a subconscious process. MEntity: When one takes a simple function that is so vital to one's life and brings to it an awareness and presence, it can bring that same awareness and presence to other areas of the life that have come to be automated and subconscious, or even unconscious. MEntity: Of course, there is also the benefit of oxygen that comes with breathing, and the more one brings this food to the body, the better it can function. The better the body functions, the better the platform for the consciousness. MEntity: Diet and Breathing are two immediate powers one has in making deeply profound changes to the platform that is available for consciousness in a lifetime. The more one brings conscious awareness to either of these, or both of these, as a practice (not as a replacement for automation), the greater the benefit to the strength of platform for consciousness. MEntity: When we say "as a practice" we mean that one does not want to worry about breathing only when you think to breathe. You still want it to be a function that happens with or without your conscious attention. You do not want to starve because you forget to eat, either. But allowing these functions to have some amount of conscious awareness as a part of your day, such as a few deep breaths at the beginning, middle, and end of your day, or making more conscious choices in food intake, allows you to bring greater consciousness to many areas of the life. 12:52:21 PM Janet: When I asked you about a dream I had involving sycamore trees, you told me that some symbols are ancient to the Instinctive Center, and they come up as a language in dreams. I've noticed that a number of students (including myself) have reported dreams involving turtles. Are turtles one of those ancient symbols and, in general, what do they mean? MEntity: The "Turtle" refers to the original move to Earth. This was one of the first creatures to have persistent contact with those who began stabilizing and wandering about. Variations of the Turtle have been in existence previous to our arrival and continue into modern day with very little variation. Over time, this came to represent Earth, our new home. MEntity: Not only were these creatures friendly, but came to symbolize successful stabilization as both a species and individual lives. MEntity: There was a period of time very early on when individuals would go through a simple kind of initiation or ritual that included bonding with the Turtle as a way to say, in so many words, "We think we/you will make it." MEntity: In other words, if you lived long enough, your stability was associated with that of the Turtle as a kind of celebration. MEntity: Over time, many variations of meaning have come to be attributed to the Turtle, but the persistence of the Turtle as representing the consciousness of Earth or the universe that hosts Earth has continued. Janet: That image/idea of the earth actually being on the back of a turtle comes to mind. MEntity: On an individual level, the Turtle can symbolize endurance, innocent persistence without aggression or defense, and passive patience. MEntity: Yes, that is related. 01:07:38 PM BrianW: Hi Michael. Could you comment on differences and similarities of intimacy in monogamous relationships vs polyamorous relationship? MEntity: Most of those differences would be up to the individuals involved. Intimacy for one person can be sustained with only one person while another can sustain intimacy with up to 3. No fragment can tend to manage intimacy with more than 3 others at any given time. MEntity: For most, there is a limit to the number with whom one can sustain intimacy, and it rarely reaches 3 for most. MEntity: What tends to happen is that there is that inner circle of intimacy with whom one can sustain depth of intimacy, and if another were added beyond that, then someone would be moved out to another ring. BrianW: How might one choose which is best for them, or how to make it work? MEntity: Experimentation can help you decide if this involves mutual, sexual intimacy. If all involved can know all involved, then it can work. If you must juggle and sustain barriers among those within that inner circle of intimacy, then it is not working and is likely not an inner circle of intimacy. MEntity: Most who lean toward polyamory use the 2nd Circle/Ring for their management of intimacy, rotating one to three individuals in and out from that inner circle to an outer circle. MEntity: The 2nd Circle can manage up to 7 intimate relationships, so a part of that pool may be sexual in nature. BrianW: And the 1st Circle only up to 3 intimate relationships? MEntity: Yes, at most. The Personality simply cannot sustain more than that, and this includes non-sexual intimacy, as well. 01:22:34 PM DianeHB: Hi Michael, could you talk about how the Pragmatist appears/acts in social situations? MEntity: The Pragmatist in the Positive Pole can show up as attentive, quiet, and observing of how others are maneuvering, behaving, functioning, and producing, offering insight, feedback, and direction only as necessary or as beneficial to the dynamic. MEntity: The Pragmatist in the Negative Pole is your micro-manager, your "nit-picking" and badgering presence, either in obvious ways or in passive-aggressive ways that are not productive, but tend to actually undermine efficiency. By "efficiency" here we mean that an intended effect is lost in favor of the feeding dogma. MEntity: Because Pragmatists can be using any other Attitude, this benefit or undermining can come in the guise of any other Attitude. Many Negative Pole Pragmatists are known to say something along the lines of "I'm just being truthful." MEntity: This is not limited to Pragmatists, because all other Attitudes can also access the Pragmatist. An Idealist can express the same if he's using Dogma, for example. However, most other Attitudes do tend to stay on their own Axis and not involve Pragmatism. MEntity: As usual, the above is highly simplistic and not indicative of the complexities of a human being, but it can be helpful in understanding the dynamic of a trait. 01:36:36 PM Kurt: Hi Michael, I'd like to continue with my series of questions. This time on how the Skeptic appears/acts in social situations. MEntity: The Positive Pole Skeptic is curious, even if presented with surprising, challenging, or discrepant information, behaviors, or expressions. The Skeptic understands Expression and relies on it for gathering information with which she can then sort. MEntity: The Positive Pole Skeptic would rather know than not to know, so it is important to that Skeptic to keep from imposing her own restrictions on others. MEntity: The Negative Pole Skeptic has already decided you are wrong. MEntity: She may probe you for more interaction, not as a means for sorting, but as a means for holding it up to mock or discredit. MEntity: This Skeptic may not even ask you or interact with you because she has already decided you are wrong, uninformed, or some form of threat to her being right. MEntity: The above may be obviously or quietly brought to a social situation. 01:48:25 PM Bobby: Being that this is a Higher Moving Centered year, there has been a good deal of larger seismic activity around the planet so far this year. As things look now and into the rest of this year, are probabilities building for the increased likelihood of any sort of major event of some type? MEntity: Yes Bobby: LOL Bobby: anything else you'd share? GeraldineB: LOL -- Michael, you so crack me up :) Kurt: oh no... MEntity: Seismic activity is being registered more because better methods are being used now, and the more seismic activity, the "better" in that it means relief is coming to stressed lines. This does not always prevent larger events, but it often does. Greater threats arise in areas were seismic activity is low or non-existent, even as it is clear there are fault lines. MEntity: Though there are no years with exclusive claim to major events, we have seen that Higher Moving Centered years do have a strong track record for globally-significant events that can range from earthquakes, extremes of weather, and Solar activity. MEntity: Though several events of extreme have already happened in this year, we do not think the "big one" has come about, but we do think it will. We say this, not as a prediction or ominous note, but as a matter of momentum of patterns we can observe. GeraldineB: Where? Bobby: lol GeraldineB: Mt Rainier? during late June? Oh no!!! Kurt: cringes all throughout MEntity: We cannot predict. We can only say that that there are several probable locations and events moving into stressed states. MEntity: We will conclude here for today. Good evening to each of you. Goodbye, for now. Janet: Talk about a cliffhanger Kurt: later... Kurt: I swear now i'm on edge Kurt: Have to calm my phobia... GeraldineB: DAMMIT!!! Bobby: heehee GeraldineB: LOL GeraldineB: Thank you, Michael and Troy :) Bobby: well, look where there hasn't been activity if they are locked :-) Kurt: *internal screaming* 02:02:42 PM *********** June 8, 2015 Followup Q to the Earthquake Q from this Ask Michael Session: GeraldineB: 2) Yesterday, earthquakes were discussed in the Ask Michael session. Could we have a probability of possible major earthquakes during 2015, approximately 8 pt or higher, either along the West coast of the U.S. from Alaska to Baja California, either of the two Super volcano sites in the U.S. – Mammoth Lake or Yellowstone, and along the New Madrid faultline. MEntity: In response to your next question: MEntity: To speak of probabilities for Earthquakes is one of the most difficult to assess. We know you know the lack of solid ground we can give for any prediction, and for many probabilities. With that being understood, we can say that we see the higher probabilities for Earthquakes near the 8.0 range as being around Missouri and Tennessee, or further East, because these areas are long-overdue for release. Numbers between 6.0 and 8.0 seem to be most probable further West. MEntity: The entire Pacific Rim up and down and beyond in both directions along the Western United States is high in probability for those numbers. MEntity: We do not have any way to be more accurate. MEntity: In parallels "close" to "this" parallel, Portland to Vancouver have been hit hard, as well as generated tsunamis to the coasts of Alaska.