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Originally posted to eTLE by DianeHB ________________________ Private session on 5/19/2015 MEntity: Hello to you, both. We are here, now. We can begin. Diane_and_Tex: Hi Michael! Tex: I am wondering whether the economy is going to stay the course for the next two years or so, or is it going to falter into a deflation or fall into a rapidly inflating economy where the currency is worth less and less. I feel something is about to happen. This is what I've been reading about: The government can always add money to the economy and try to spur it on. This leads many experts to believe that an inflation will ultimately result. However, the Baby Boomers are spending less and less, and the commodity demand may be weakening. All the while many banks and governments are seriously over-leveraged. This condition could lead to a popping of the financial bubble and lead to a sudden depression. I feel that a deflation will happen. I feel that the next stimulus will not work simply because the commodity demand is now (and has been) too weak and is getting weaker. (Fewer people will be interested in zero-interest loans.) If I am feeling this condition correctly, we need to be out of the stock market and simply have cash. I am trying to see which way to go. MEntity: Of course, this is something too far out to predict, even if we could predict, and even if we could predict with some amount of accuracy, the variables are such that the situation could change direction rapidly. At this point, we can see a fair amount of stability over the next couple of years, with a greater fluctuation in one direction or the other around 2017-2020. MEntity: When you read about these concerns, it is a good idea to look back at any previous statements and predictions made by these sources because predictions of collapse are about as reliable as the predictions of the rapture, so far. Diane_and_Tex: LOL MEntity: There is a great deal of logic and extrapolation that can make the predictions make great sense, but because the nature of the economy is more organic and less-static than a predictable trajectory, one can only look at it in the same way one looks at the weather. MEntity: For example, it is a fact that climate is changing, and so is the stability of the economy, and it can be fairly accurately predicted that extremes may come as results that one cannot avoid, but none of those extremes or their impact can truly be predicted. MEntity: We do know that an overhaul is a part of the trajectory of the local and world economy in ways that would help to bring greater stability and dispersion of wealth and resources, but we do not know when this will begin as a process. We do not think this would begin before 2020. MEntity: As for your concern, we think you will have a fairly clear "heads up" that would help you to know if/when to pull your resources closer to you. Tex: I still don't understand how a resource-based economy without money could work in our world globally. MEntity: The resource-based economy would be fairly automated in ways that managed distribution from all contributors. There would be no hoarding, no nurturing of greed or fear of lack, because all resources are shared, and every place on the planet has some form of resource that contributes to the well-being of humanity and the planet. MEntity: This eliminates the necessity for negotiations and bidding and competition. It is truly a paradigm shift in how resources are managed, so we understand that it can be difficult to imagine, and we know it seem far beyond the capacity of humanity at this time, but it is not. It is actually far more natural to humanity and could be implemented swiftly and smoothly. MEntity: The benefits for the masses in all areas of the planet would help to more immediately embrace such a concept. MEntity: If you were to lose the technology that would allow this to be on a global level, then the concept is simply scaled down, but with current technology, it is entirely possible to shift toward a global resource-based economy. With anticipated technologies, it would be fairly inexcusable that it would not move in that direction. Diane: That sounds really cool. Tex: It sounds like there wouldn't be wars anymore. MEntity: The only problems this shift would face are from those who resist the paradigm shift, and there will always be those individuals. However, when the sheer amount of abundance available for all is understood and distributed, the concern for who has more falls to the side. Some will want more than others. Some will prefer less. The basics would never be a concern, and the rest is preference. MEntity: When technologies are designed for long-term evolution and no longer designed as planned obsolescence, you are no longer worried about the "next best thing," but simply a part of the wave of upgrades shared among all. MEntity: It is true that warring drops drastically, especially on larger scales. There will always be conflict because it is one of the ways that all creatures learn and grow, but those conflicts would be more interpersonal and intimate rather than faceless and on large scales. MEntity: It is not just that material resources made available make the difference, but philosophical and educational resources. Even more than material abundance, Education is at the heart of dissolving the "necessity" for war. This is one of the reasons education is our primary agenda. Diane: Is the shift to resource-based economy still 50-100 years out? MEntity: At this point, it is shifting closer to 25 to 75 years, but it will depend on many variables. We think the process would begin with one country or a collection of countries who opt to shift in this direction in ways that model the possibilities for other countries. MEntity: These would be a kind of "hybrid" process in much the same way that shifts toward different power sources have come to be implemented. MEntity: To shift entirely would lead to isolation, and this would not be of benefit to the world. This post was edited by DianeHB at May 31, 2015 2:04 AM EDT
Original question posted by Jon on 10/13/08. Michael recently spoke of our economy based on debt being replaced by one based on choice... what does an economy based on choice look like? What are the key differences? I guess that the debt economy is based on the idea that "you owe me... because I did something for you". What is a choice economy based off of? Perhaps prioritization of resources? Is the system the same, but with a different emphasis... or is the system markedly different? FROM MICHAEL: An economy generated by Choice would be one in which each individual finds that which he or she is best at contributing and then does so because it feels good to do, create, give that thing. This is then reciprocated by the joy others have found in discovering what they feel good about doing, creating, giving. Access to all resources is based on personal need and not on hoarding. No one would tend to take more than is needed because the concept of competition has come to a close. Competition is replaced with Contribution. Natural joy and fulfillment evolves from the emphasis on Giving, and not just on the Consuming. "Laziness" is no longer a concern, because it is comprehended that for one to Give or Contribute, it must come from Choice, not from obligation or expectation. This tends toward a community that sustains inspiration and enthusiasm, while honoring the fluctuating moods and choices of the individual. There are no debts because when one cannot, or chooses not to, give or contribute, he is seen as simply making a choice that will then be replaced with another choice at another time. This economy tends to begin with a leaning toward fields organized within contexts of NEED and WANT, with some amount of overlapping. For instance, foods, sanitation, water supplies, healing, teaching services may fall into the NEEDS contexts, while arts, entertainments, invention, spirituality may fall into the WANTS contexts. Of course, the overlapping occurs when one can see Art as a form of Healing, or Invention as a form of support for Sanitation, etc. The economy of Choice then tends to discover that everything is "needed," and that "want" is a concept of the past when it was assumed that Want was less important than Need. In the evolved economy of Choice, it is quickly discovered that it is rare that one Wants more than one Needs, and that this is a relative concern best left to the individual's choice. While there would still be pros and cons to this kind of economy (such as structure and consistencies), the pros far outweigh the cons in terms of health, happiness, and peace. Reply by Leela on October 24, 2008 On a practical level, how does a choice-based economy deal with money and concepts of trade and markets? I don't mean stock markets, I mean actual markets. I ask because it's hard to imagine, in real terms, what this would look like, since humanity has lived with market economies for a very long time. FROM MICHAEL: (in response to Leela's comment) Trade would still exist, but would be a matter of choice and comprehension, not rationing. Exchanges would be direct, rather than through the use of a controlling, irrelevant medium such as currency. A choice-based economy is a resource-based economy that does not rely on money. This may be a bizarre concept, but it is natural and a part of most evolving cultures at some point. In other words, a choice-based/resource-based economy would ask, "do we have the resources to provide what we need and want?" rather than "do we have the money to provide what we need and want?" Relying on resource as the factor for access and sharing frees up a massive depth of resources inherent within humanity that have rarely been tapped. We realize we are speaking in simplistic terms, and this is partially due to the fact that what we describe would require much greater elaboration if we are to share the details of such an overhauling paradigm, and partially due to the limitations of this channel (and students) for delivering and comprehending such a paradigm. We have suggested for Troy to read the works that are being explored and implemented by those within the kingdom of the Magnetic King, Jacque Fresco, and we would suggest the same for our students. In many parallels and vectors, this fragment holds the greatest impact on what you would consider to be your "future" as a species.
NYC Live: On Current Events July 14, 2011 Note from Janet: This session was transcribed by Elaine and Eric from a live recording. MEntity: We are here now. It will take a little bit of time for us to come through smoothly, so bear with us if we pause in awkward moments in our responses. Hello to each of you. We understand the context of our exchange with you today will be current events, and what we will do first is speak to you a bit about that context so that the parameters of discussion are more defined, as well as having some dimension added to the context. We would define current events as anything that is happening in the world on some scale that is relevant to you now. In fact, it might be more accurate to call them relevant events rather than current events, because the time frames for events that are relevant for you are not necessarily so current, and of course our perception of what is current is very different from yours. The reason current events are something worth exploring is because they often give insight into what is happening with your species and with your collective consciousness. There are a lot of things happening in the world and only a portion of those come to your awareness, and now that there are so many avenues with which you can access information and current events, it is even more telling what it is that comes through to you. You are no longer just dependent on radio stations or limited broadcasts or even word of mouth, but you can actively go out and find information. What you seek and what makes its way through to you has some bearing on your world view, and where you find yourself in relation to the rest of your species. Often, current events, or events happening in the world, are polarized in their meaning and they play out the extremes in a way that we can most simply describe as the spectrum between love and fear. So what you are drawn to usually resonates to issues that you are working on relative to your capacity to love, and issues that represent your issues relative to your fears. Usually the things that fall in-between those personalized holes doesn't make it through to you or, if it does, is dismissed. And so looking at what you are drawn to in the media — and this would include films, this will include music, this doesn't just include the news – can give you great insight into where you are in your participation with humanity, and how you find yourself represented in the world. In general, a lot of what makes the news and becomes relevant to you makes the news and becomes relevant because it plays upon the three levels of truth that we have talked about in the past. The more collective a species becomes, the more cohesive it becomes. Or, in other words, the more it matures in soul age collectively, the more it begins to examine its truths on a personal level, on a global level and on a universal level. So a great deal of what happens in the media and in the news and what you are drawn to represents your process of those three levels of truth, what it means to you personally, how you understand what it means to everyone else, and how it represents the more universal truths such as love and fear, and truth itself, and energy or beauty. So with that in mind as a foundation for looking deeper, as we look at the various subjects you might bring up we might circle back to what we just shared to give examples. And with that, we'll open the floor to questions from you about current events, and you may ask in whatever order comes from your group. [Comment] Well okay, so I would like to know if Casey Anthony killed her daughter and, if so, why? MEntity: At this point we cannot answer that question any more accurately than you can. The Intensity of such dynamics that are being played out, especially when it comes to karmic dynamics, are difficult for us to read because we do not have access to the details of an individual or a group's Karma until it is played out, until it is completed. The reason we do not have access to it is because it could incur Karma for us to provide that information for people who are in the middle of it. And therefore, not only is it not accessible in many cases, but we also refrain from exploring it to any extent that might incur Karma. We cannot incur Karma from where we are. [Question] Are any of us in the room involved in this Karmic event? MEntity: No, but that will not change our ability to access it. When a situation is unfolding that is within the process of burning or creating Karmic ribbons, our access to the details is quite limited. For your information or for those involved, this is because ... for instance, imagine that you have a karmic ribbon with another fragment who owes you, so to speak, a murder. If we were to share with you that you have a karmic ribbon with an individual who owes you a murder, the impact on your psyche could potentially be to such an extent that it generates a ribbon between us, or at least the channel and you, do you understand? [Comment] Yeah, I understood that from before when we had the issue where we obviously had Karma. MEntity: However, we can answer questions around the question of if she did or did not and we can say that this is a Karmic situation that is playing out, which is one of the reasons why it is such a fascination for the public, because it does resonate with not only the human drama in general, but those who have gone through this before in other lives. They are watching to see how others process this. It is quite interesting for most fragments to watch, to see how another group plays out such an intense drama. For the older souls, we would say that this subject has not been so interesting because you have “been there, done that.” You have murdered your children, you have accidentally killed your children, you have accidentally been killed by your parents or caretakers, and you're rather neutral about the subject. Those who are not so neutral about it, and are polarized, have probably not played out both sides of that scenario yet in terms of incarnations. We cannot say whether she killed her daughter or not, but we know that she was involved to such an extent that this appears to be a ribbon that is burning, a burning of a ribbon, as part of the dynamic that we can see. Within a short period of time — 6 months to a year — included in this dynamic is a confession that will clarify everything, because that is part of what we can see as the flip side of the original initiation of this Karma. The why of it we can answer as well, that it does not appear to have been intentional, the death itself. And that is the best we can do with the details. [Comment] Thank you. [Question] Can you comment on the unrest in China, some of what we've been seeing a lot of (protests) recently, and also in the context of the transition of the leadership, and their path towards democracy. MEntity: For quite some time that particular area of the world has been where most of the Servers have been incarnating, and things have been fairly passive in that regard. Cultures such as the United States have been lacking the incarnation of servers, which has contributed to some of the breakdown of family and the redefining of family, and this is part of what happens when a culture is shifting or emphasizing the Young Soul consciousness. The Young Soul paradigm is “I can do it myself,” and so Servers do not have a great deal of positions to be in except to be subservient. Not all Servers are interested in simply being subservient or exploited, and Young Souls can tend to do this. So Servers moved away from the United States, for instance, as it went through its Young Soul phase, and congregated in China, or at least in that general area. However, as the United States begins to mature and shift into Mature Soul consciousness, the Mature Souls then shift the paradigm from “I can do it all myself” to “Let me do it for you,” or “Let me help you.” As the empathy begins to spread, Servers find a more comfortable position again in that kind of paradigm. And so more Servers are coming back to the United States and leaving China. However, those Servers who are still in the incarnational process in China are part of the whole reason for the unrest and uprisings, because the exploited Server either falls into a passive category, and moves into being exploited, or they get, for lack of a better phrase, pissed off, and would begin to lash out and begin to pull the rug out from underneath those who previously depended upon them. Servers know more intimately and in more specific detail what it is that those around them need. It is simply built into the design of that essence. And so if the Servers are maturing in consciousness to a point where they have realized that there is a need for, say, democracy or more freedom, less exploitation, then they will work in that direction to inspire that in those around them. So this is a revolution of Servers that we see unfolding in that area. So many may see the Server role as only being of service, or of a following nature, but they are responsible for some of the major shifts in paradigm because they make up most of the population of the planet. This shift will occur. It is moving towards a Young Soul culture of intolerance towards any kind of restrictions, any kind of cap on the capacity for success, any kind of control over the desires and cravings of those who are incarnating. And so the shift is moving towards a Young Soul paradigm, and that part of the world, as far as we can see, in momentum may rise to what the United States have been for the past many years. [Question] So as a follow up question then. Is it valid to view the momentum of LGBT rights in America and recognizing the importance as part of that shift into the Mature Soul phase? MEntity: Yes. You'll see the Mature Soul paradigm begin play out, as, for instance, represented by your leader, the Priest, Barack Obama, who is a Mature Soul and is using Mature Soul tactics for progress, which requires a great deal of compromise, deliberation and consideration of all aspects and all needs. And so some who have criticized his methods or his tactics and criticized the lack of drive or force are simply seeing a different way of leading. It's going to set a standard for others as well, as the Mature Soul paradigm takes effect. Leadership will no longer be about dictatorship making choices for others, but hearing from all sides and making a choice in the best interest of the most that can possibly be accommodated. Therefore, you will see that in smaller pockets happening around the country, where, in a Mature Soul paradigm, the rights of groups become vital because the consciousness no longer allows for the division, that discrimination in the sense of prejudices. It does not fit into that awareness anymore, because if the Mature Soul rejects you there is a visceral response to that. There is a rejection of the self there is a rejection of a part of you. So to embrace differences, to embrace diversity, to embrace the rights of those around you, is a way of also becoming more whole and of nurturing your own sense of wholeness and evolution. So, yes. [Comment] There was my question. I was gonna ask about why he is so damned wishy washy and not getting anything done for the Democratic Party. MEntity: Yes, it is simply a different method of leadership. Mature Souls do not lead through force. It is through communication, often compromise. [Comment] Well, yes. He's compromised right out of a lot of things MEntity: That is the negative side of negotiation for the Mature Soul, the compromise. We're trying to find the right word for describing the other end of that spectrum, which is something along the lines of harmony. Compromise in this case would be the loss of, or at least the perceived loss of, something for the sake of a group. However, when the negotiations are more harmonious, those losses are not seen as losses. They are perceived as small prices to pay for. [Comment] But unfortunately, he is negotiating with people who are much more Baby Soul oriented, Young Soul oriented, that are demanding and ridiculous, and so … MEntity: That is a valid perception. [Comment] Why thank you. So it's like he is working with a set of rules that he is trying to apply, but since they are playing with their own special set it is like he's just getting stomped on in a lot of ways. So do you think that it will be perceived … because a lot of people are concerned that he won't win the next election. I think he will, but a lot of people think he won't because he's pissing off the left by not doing anything for them, that they want done, they voted him in for, and then the right is just whackadoodle shit. MEntity: Everything that this Priest is doing is more calculated than might be obvious to those who perceive it from a distance because the Priest in the positive pole is compassion, and that translates into empathy. That sense of empathy can be its own curse as well as its own blessing, so to speak, and so the empathy is driving this fragment to explore what is important to everyone. And that can take time, to hear everyone out and to make sure they are heard and understood. But it can also give clues as to what can be done on a larger scale that will allow for the greatest good, or the highest good, because the Priest aims for the highest good, whatever that Priest has decided is the highest good. A Mature Priest will have a hard time imposing a highest good without hearing from everyone involved. [Comment] He only gets 4 years (unclear) MEntity: That is the only obstacle: time. This is a race against time for this fragment because this fragment may find himself in a position where he has to draw lines that are extremely uncomfortable and counter to his intentions. [Question] Otherwise he won't get another 4 years to keep going and working on it? Are you saying that when it gets closer to the election he is going to have to do more things to show he has a pair? MEntity: We would not phrase it in that way. [Comment] But I would. MEntity: We would also say that that would not be from what we can see as this fragment's motivation. It would be more to get done and into place those things that matter, even if it meant not having another 4 years. So the motivation would be to do what can be done in a limited period of time. If that ends up being to the liking of those who will vote, then that may bode well for the election in his favor. And while that is a concern, of course, he would not draw the line just to prove something. It would be, from what we can see, motivated by the concern that if the line were not drawn then those things that were intended would not be done by whoever took his place. [Comment] So it sounds like he is a pivotal president because of the shift in soul age at this time. MEntity: Oh yes. [Question] So he is thinking more about laying groundwork for much farther in the future than just his presidency? MEntity: We would agree with that. For instance, going back to the rights of homosexuals and transgender and so forth, the methods that are being allowed to unfold on their own are securing rights in a way that would be much more difficult to remove if someone would choose to do so in the future. There were options along the way that could have imposed or enforced rights, but the encouragement for the population to choose those is a much more effective means of securing them than to enforce them or to impose them. [Comment] I see what you are saying. MEntity: Yes. [Question] Along maybe a similar line, we're supposed to be shifting into a Mature Soul paradigm in the United States, but it is funny hearing it sometimes because in politics it's gotten so much more partisan. And also, when we look at just the pop culture, the pop culture feels like it has degraded over the time. We used to have movie stars and cinema, and now we focus on Jersey Shore and Paris Hilton. It feels like the culture is becoming more materialistic and more simplistic. And again, with the political spectrum, it feels like it is becoming more self-centered. And I understand that part of that may be the more access to information, so I would be curious to hear how much that is affecting it, but also, how do we reconcile that in terms of understanding that we are shifting into a Mature Soul paradigm? MEntity: Every transition is going to have, especially a major transition, will have two dynamics at play. One will be the reaction to that shift and the attempts to stop it, and so that is being played out in politics. The amplification of the Baby and Young Souls who do not want things to change are obviously going to be contrasted more obviously against the change that is coming inevitably. And we say inevitably, not because it is something fated or destined, but because evolution is difficult to stop. Momentum is difficult to stop, and once you learn or mature you can't unmature. You can't unlearn. You can't lose that compassion and that empathy that is gained. And that spreads. So the contrast is the one element or the one dynamic that is being played out. The other is that, in a transition, one of the ways the transition can take root is by using the very familiar world from which the transition is coming. So as your media, or your entertainment, moves towards more “reality TV,” it is stripping away the glamour that was the Young Soul paradigm portrayed in movie stars and the romanticizing of those movie stars — stripping away the entire Young Soul glamour – and moving towards reality: more intimate, more accessible, more personal, which is the Mature Soul paradigm. But in order to introduce that, or to make it acceptable, it is being pulled in and focusing on the Young Soul characters willing to play that. And so while the paradigm is shifting towards more intimate, more real, less glamorized, less protected, less private, it is still being played out with Young Soul values. Do you understand what we are saying? [Comment] Yes. MEntity: And so while it may look like what's being emphasized is the Young Soul paradigm, it is being emphasized through a new lens which is the broader paradigm that will eventually find new characters. For instance, politics itself is a breeding ground and a meeting ground for Baby and Young Souls. Mature and Old Souls have no interest in politics, because it is dominated by Baby and Young Souls. However, as more examples show up in politics to show how that context can be played out in a different way, it will draw in more Mature Souls who are willing to realize that, “oh it doesn't have to be played by those old rules anymore, it can be played by new rules.” And so you will see more and more Mature and Old Souls showing up in politics. The same with your media or entertainment. While the emphasis now is seeming to be, in a lot of ways, ludicrous, obnoxious Young Soul behavior, that will grow tiresome for a while. But, it will have gotten on board the Young and Mature so that, when it shifts in focus, they will be watching. [Comment] Crafty. [Comment] Interesting. MEntity: It is also just a natural progression in a Mature Soul culture. The concept of privacy begins to degrade. In a Young Soul world, privacy is extremely valuable and extremely protected and fought for. In a Mature Soul, and especially in an Old Soul world, privacy isn't of a concern at all, because the concept of privacy falls away when there is no more shame, no more concepts of judgement, no more division based on differences, no more exploitation based on individual values. There will always need to be some measures of practical protection when it comes to individuals and your participation in the world. But the emphasis on privacy starts to fall away. So reality TV, or all of the contrived versions of reality, are still playing out that idea that all of you are being watched, all of you are willingly exposing yourselves in such things as social media. This is another step in the direction of the Mature Soul paradigm [Comment] He says as the camera is on him. [Comment] That's interesting if you think about Facebook and tweeting in that kind of context. That's a breaking down of privacy MEntity: Yes. And once again, a Mature Soul concept for instilling something is to have those participating voluntarily bring that into permanence. So such media as Twitter, Facebook, social media in general where the world is participating and willingly doing so, willingly revealing from the most meaningful to the most minutia of their lives … the concept of privacy begins to fall away and it was done so willingly. [Question] My question concerns the US food supply and what is being done to it: pumping the meat full of antibiotics, and genetically modified foods. If it is making humans more sick, and if the government is behind this deliberately, and if they're possibly in cahoots with the big Pharma companies, to get them sick and then sell them their drugs. [Comment] I think they are in cahoots MEntity: And that would reveal something about your participation and place in humanity. We do not see such a sinister element involved in that cycle. But, there is a phrase, or a cliché, that is something like, “the road to hell is paved by the best intentions,” and that would be one of the ways to describe some of what has come up as a cycle in your food industry. Genetic modifications, hormones, antibiotics, all of these had good intentions to some extent to make things more or less perishable, to make them easier to transport, to make them grow where they wouldn't normally grow. This is good. That is something that is seen as helping. However, there are long term effects that do take a toll when those things are ingested over time. What we've seen in parallel versions of the food industry, or in other planetary systems where food issues exist, is that these were short term solutions and, in the context of things, it would be in this case as well. It doesn't work for very long that these things are injected into or modified, but they do help in certain parts of the world during certain periods of time. Having that as a backup is something important for every sentient species to have at their disposal. But, to rely upon it becomes a problem and does begin to undermine the health systems of those participating over time. One of the shifts that we see occurring over a period of time is the return to small local farming and an emphasis on the importance of that, so that what can be grown in certain areas is then locally provided as much as possible. The abundance of what can be grown locally is much more than what is being speculated. At this time, the only reason why it is not sometimes seen as viable is because of the profit that can be made on lands in different ways, and the fight for who gets control of those lands. But once it becomes realized across the board that every city or every localized area must have its own food source to the capacity that it can, there will probably be, in least in these other versions we've seen, designated areas for that to be provided. So, in answer to your question, no, we do not see that this is a conspiracy. However, it is a perpetuated good intention that is not of benefit in the long run and will probably … anything that goes in that direction eventually collapses, and we see that it is on its way out. It will peak and then be stored as a possibility for certain contexts, but not something relied upon. At this point, each of you have the options of what to purchase for your food intake. The more your choices move towards the local and truly organic and so forth, the more that helps to instill it as a part of the paradigm. [Comment] Farmer's market here we come. [Question] My question is more about our relationship to nature and the planet. And it grows from all of the current events surrounding the Japan earthquake that created alarm about the nuclear reactor and the possibility of nuclear waste going into the air and the atmosphere, into the ocean, back into the earth and into the ground. And more recently here, with the Exxon Oil spill in the Yellowstone River up north, and how that is not being maintained and controlled, to, from a political standpoint or an industrial standpoint, an overproduction of things such as oil rigs and the whole oil and gas industry. It's globally saturating our planet and is exhausting our fuel supplies, and, to a certain extent, all of this kind of planet harvesting is affecting the climate. And I am not gonna say that things like global warming and the shifts in climate are completely man made events, because I know that weather patterns and climate patterns are a thing a planet goes through cycles of, millennial cycles. But, I think we are expediting or accelerating some of these cycles. So, I guess I have two questions. The first question is: I know there is a debate as to whether or not other technologically advanced societies or civilizations have been here, and for whatever reasons they died out or left or whatever. I want to know, have any of them or did any of them experience similar situations — a sort of rape of the natural world — and how did they deal with those issues as they surfaced in their civilizations? The second part to my question is: is it inevitable; is it inherent in a society's evolution? As you become more industrialized and more technologically advanced, does that have to pair with the destruction of the planet? Can you evolve without actually having to take away all of your planet's resources? MEntity: Yes. Otherwise species would not be able to finish their cycles. But, it is also not particularly uncommon to exhaust resources and have to move to another planet. That is something that some species end up having as an effect on their native environment. To try to answer your questions in order, ask them again one at a time. [Question] The first one was: if there were other civilizations in earth's history, did they also encounter circumstances of using up earth's resources too quickly or harming more than helping as they evolved? MEntity: Yes. The — what some have deemed mythological — civilization of Atlantis is a fairly recent example of what can happen when resources are exploited to an extent that they become taken for granted, or misunderstood, or misdirected. That was a pocket of Young Soul dominated culture. We realize that some romanticize it as an advanced civilization, but technological advancements are not necessarily parallel to maturity. That group of Young Souls found themselves in a position where their primary resource, which we will just refer to as power because we do not know if we have a term to describe it — it could be understood as parallel to nuclear power — found themselves in a position that literally destroyed everything. So it has happened before. A great deal of those who perished at that time are responsible for the development of the United States as a country. As part of the cyclical group karma — which is a valid concept as well; Karma can be created and generated in groups and then rebalanced in groups — they are finding themselves in positions to see examples of other disasters in the world based on the loss of control over power, or the taking for granted of the power, or the misuse of it. At least at this point, we are seeing the United States as at least establishing a momentum towards alternatives ahead of other countries as a way of “saving” or “revitalizing” the country instead of losing it, as happened in Atlantis. So it has happened before. And yes, the more a society is focused on subtle energies as a resource – or an implosive type of energy resource versus a combustible or explosive energy — as long as one or the other is emphasized as a primary source of power, it will almost always lead to some form of collapse or destruction. What hasn't been done in your species yet is the combination of the two to an extent that brings that balance as required that you would recognize as being in harmony with nature. So as more credibility is given to such advanced concepts, which were provided by such fragments as Tesla in the past, and experimented on again without the restrictions of Young Soul values, and freeing up energy to be much more available to those participating in it, then the balance may come and your species would stabilize a great deal in terms of its resources and the sharing of those. We do not know if we've completely answered your question. So we'll ask you to ask the questions again or to — [Comment] Well, you sort of answered my second question first when I was asking: in order to advance technologically or industrially, does a society have to basically use up or misuse natural resources? And I think you said no that's not the case. [Question] So, if there are species who had to leave their home planet in search for another one, can they still be Old-Souled? Were they just not very intelligent or practical, if they had to leave one planet to seek refuge on another, or can even the older souls make that mistake and have to suffer the consequences of it? MEntity: By the time a species has moved to an Old Soul paradigm, there is usually a great shift in emphasis of what is important for the day to day life, and no longer are such power resources necessary. So you would find, on planets where the population is primarily Old Soul, very humble dwellings, going back to very simple resources, living off the land, or living in an environment that has already mastered the balance between the types of resources that are available: the implosive and explosive. And so it is very rare that an Old Soul-dominated culture is in any position to have to leave. By then it has learned how to live. However, in a species such as yours that is primarily shifting from Young Soul to Mature, if something were to happen to affect your world, you would, of course, be a part of that as an Old Soul. That is where the importance of parallel universes comes to hand, because for instance, in the 1980's, there was nuclear war in one of your parallels. All of the fragments who were involved in that nuclear holocaust are tied to that parallel and working on rebuilding the planet in that version of reality. However, those of you who were in that reality who perished because of the wars that broke out simply do not return to that, but find a different version of reality to continue on. And so, even if the Young Souls “screw things up,” or the Baby Souls push and push until there is no more room for anyone to be free to be themselves, the older souls will find other versions of reality to continue their explorations. So in answer to your question, or to simplify, Old Soul cultures would not, or we have not seen them, be in that position where they would have to leave a planet. [Question] There is a question from Geraldine. She is asking about the concept of peak oil, which is defined as the point in time when the maximum rate of global petroleum extraction is reached, after which the rate of production enters terminal decline. She is asking if it is real and if it has already occurred. MEntity: Based on available or found resources, and the technology available to access those, yes that is a valid concept. However, that can shift if the technology shifts and if the means for extracting it, or the locations for extracting it, are found. So it is not a static concept, but it is a valid one within certain definitions or in certain context, and at this point, yes, there would be a decline after reaching a certain peak. However, as we said before, any time the emphasis is on one or the other resources for power, that peak will be reached and collapse. This would be an example of it. And though that peak can be extended or altered over a period of time, it is certainly not infinite. In this case, just the idea of peak oil is helping to prompt alternatives to come forth before reaching collapse, and this is one of the dynamics in place that are helping the fragments involved from Atlantis to find solutions before “too late.” Did this answer your question? [Question] I guess it did. To expand on that a little bit, I am curious about the concept of fracking: how they have been pushing to allow fracking in upstate NY. They've been trying to buy out landowners to allow them to drill for oil and gas; there's supposedly a great supply up there. So the backlash against it is because it's obviously very harmful to the environment. [Comment] And the concern is that, there are a lot of natural aquifers and water storage underground, and as they frack, the oil and gas then penetrates the water supply which then makes its way to our populations. [Question] Just the damage to the earth the (unclear) that they are doing up there just seems wrong, I think. MEntity: We do not use such terminology as “wrong” or “bad,” but we will say that it certainly is a detrimental impact and one that can only be stopped by the gathering of Mature Soul consciousness to take that on. You will find scenarios like this popping up in certain contexts where the power of Mature Soul consciousness or Mature Souls coming together can make a difference. We don't see this practice that you're describing … we see that it will be rather short-lived, because the impact is so obvious and so unwanted that the alternative is better. The alternative of running out of all of that is better than losing everything. Rather, the alternative of running out of those fuels is better than losing more vital fuels such as water and land. So that choice will be supported by the Mature Souls more than likely and taken on and righted. We say righted only in the sense that it will be put into the Mature Soul context where more is considered than just taking. Of course, that is not a prediction, it is only what we see as a natural momentum that would come up. [Question] We've all been talking recently or for a while about how poorly education is just, I mean, it's just going down into like ridiculous. Sometimes I think, “am I just a bitchy old granny, or is it really that people just don't know shit anymore?” I mean, it's just been so (unclear) to speak and then I'm thinking, “well maybe language is just evolving in a way I don't like,” you know? So, I mean, sometimes I do think is it … not is it “just me,” but is it that I am not evolving the way it is, or is it something that maybe will be corrected someway, like we'll go back to kids actually learning stuff and knowing things and not just how to push a button with their finger, or touch a screen. MEntity: Keep in mind as we talk to you about these subjects you're questioning where your perception of it is and your interpretation of it, so that you can gain insight into how you feel about your part in humanity regardless of what our response will be. [Comment] Yeah, I've established my crabby granny status. MEntity: In any transitional period of time, the concept of education is going to change. What has been in place for a long time as far as the methods for teaching, the methods for learning, and what symbolized knowing, or what symbolized being intelligent, is itself in a process of changing. In that transition, there are going to be some generations that are affected. [Comment] That's such a polite way of putting it. MEntity: However, the transition is simply adjusting to what's important, what is defined as important for a culture and defined by what is necessary. A great deal of what used to be necessary to carry around with you in your brain is no longer necessary to carry around because it can be carried around in a device. This is not to the detriment of the brain, or to the detriment of intelligence. It is simply a different way of accessing the same information. [Comment] But your phone goes dead. Your brain doesn't turn off. MEntity: Yes. However, a great deal of what is necessary to know, if your device were to go dead, would still be accessible, because what you need to know, you learn, and what you need to know is relative to your environment. [Question] Can't one argue, though, that part is not just about filling your brain with data, with information – i.e., equal knowledge – but the process is just as important? So if people are no longer learning about, or synthesizing, or drawing conclusions, or absorbing information in a way that they can convey it back out in their own terms … if they're no longer doing that because they have devices that can store information, or they have internet pages where they can go to access information, isn't there something still being lost? Isn't there an exercise there that still takes you to a higher level that's no longer being used? MEntity: The cycle that's happening right now is the shift from an emphasis of what we would refer to as the “century of debt” in the past — and we will elaborate on this at another time, but you just ended a century of debt as a platform for the world — moving into a platform that we would describe as a “century of choice.” We're speaking of arcs of experiences or themes that are a part of your species, your entire collective consciousness. So the movement is going away from debt, or even a debt-based economy, and shifting toward a resource-based economy, resource-based world, which will take some time to implement. But also, there are two things that have been a detriment, or a source of detriment, to a great deal of the population of humans as the shift into the new century has happened, and they are population and information. These two forces are probably the most detrimental forces working against humans. There is not enough, or at least not the means to provide enough, for everyone, and information flow is of such a constant that the capacity to process it is being lost. So your perception is valid. However, it ties into the evolution of humans where choice is becoming the important factor to consider. So while there is a wall or a wave of sources of information coming into a person's life, they will need to pick and choose and learn how to discern from that ocean of information. Right now you are still at the beginning stages of having that kind of access, so there are not a lot of models for how to do that. For those of you who came from a period that the discernment was already in place for you, where you were taught certain categories, you developed a brain function that allows you to do so even now to some extent. You're able to compartmentalize, focus, and choose what is important to you from the wave of information and let the rest of it go. You do not have to consume it all, and therefore what you are taking in often becomes integrated over those raised within the past twenty years or so, who may have some difficulty with that, because the world became available and there were no compartments or categories or methods for organizing that information taught. Even if it was being taught in one area of the life, as soon as those children were outside of the context of that order, it was available immediately as a wall of information again, or a wall of exposure. And so it ties into the evolution of humans and the consciousness of humans to take responsibility for choices that are being made. Again, this ties into the Mature Soul consciousness in that choices become important to consider in terms of their impact on others and their impact on yourself, not just whether they are convenient. So on the one hand, these are detriments to humans, but it is also the playground for experiences that will be one of the only ways that humans will grow up and take responsibility for choices. [Comment] How joyous that we get to be here for the beginning. And all the morons going crazy, going “Weeee! We can do whatever we want!” MEntity: There is more truth to what you say than you realize. The population growth at this time is of such a magnitude because most essences wanted to see how this shift was going to go down. [Question] Does it look like we're going from debt-based to resource-based right now? MEntity: Not yet, but the seeds are planted. In almost all probabilities that we can see, in order for the species to continue here, at least, the emphasis for a resource-based economy has to be worked out. [Question] What would that look like? MEntity: We do not know if we can describe it in a way that can convey it accurately. But, in the world where the economy — and we say that rather symbolically — is built up around a resource-based paradigm, the willingness to cooperate and contribute is amplified by profound leaps. In a resource-based economy, the natural resources — not only of the land, not only of the continents, not only of the world — are tapped into in a way that accommodates that resource rather than simply imposes on it or takes. Individuals also begin to develop that enthusiasm so that what you are good at you give, rather than just plugging yourself into a cog or a machine that makes your society run. You help to create or contribute in a way that expands on what society means and what your culture is evolving. Materials, power, and food is all distributed based on availability, rather than debt, which is based on who can afford it. [Question] So it's more like Star Trek? MEntity: Yes. [Question] Is there a way that we can make that transition without war, because, when you say that, I can just imagine this social upheaval and the blood that will be spilled In the process. Is it possible to transition in a peaceful way? MEntity: Oh yes. It's possible. It's always possible, but it depends on the education of the masses. [Comment] Oh that's going to be a problem. [Comment] Oh dear god. [Comment] It's going to be a while. We're a long way away from that. MEntity: If more Mature Souls move into positions of authority, then the Young and Baby souls who are around, who may object to it, naturally find themselves listening to those in authority. And the more Mature Souls who are in authority, the less conflict there is in authorities, and therefore they will align themselves quite naturally to whatever the authorities are saying is in their best interest. However, in this transition you are seeing more of quite a few Baby and Young Souls in positions of authority saying what the world needs and what's important. That has been in place for so long that there is an alignment with that that will be difficult to break, but not impossible. So we would think that, if there were a smooth transition, it would probably be another 50 to 100 years before anything were obviously established in that regard. However, because there is so much resistance there will probably be a reality, or version of reality, where a form of collapse occurs of civilization to an extent that the rebuilding is where the resource-based comes up from those who then can move to positions to make it happen. In that case, it would be approximately 20 to 50 years. [Question] In terms of organically growing practice, how do you avoid situations where organic farming increases the possibility of food contamination, such as the various strains of E. Coli? MEntity: One thing that we cannot do is tell you how to protect yourselves from every possible scenario of scathing that happens while being physical. So while there will be risks involved with such practices as organic food choices, they will make their way to you in no different a way than a car accident would, and in no different way than illness would, in the sense that you will still be creating your reality through your choices, through your own effects on your immune system, through your capacity to be alert and so forth. So we cannot say what will protect you from E. Coli or other threats in organic foods other than any practices of hygiene that could be in place to help prevent this, such as washing these food resources. But, those types of threats will still be there simply because the physical plane includes, as a part of the game, so to speak, the possibilities of scathing, which we use as a term to describe any kind of physical harm or emotional harm. [Question] Geneticists are getting exciting and yet dangerously close to recreating dinosaurs. Is this something that will actually come to fruition? MEntity: We've seen it, yes. It’s already been done in some versions of your timelines. The implications of it extend quite far into a great deal of medical or physical/biological benefit. When this is accomplished in those versions of reality, the emphasis moves towards the benefit, or at least those have moved toward the benefit of that capacity. However, there is, of course, the novelty aspect of it that helps to generate the funds for the more beneficial part in some instances. This is a good example of how your media, especially in terms of films or even books, plays out scenarios for humanity that actually have happened or potentially could happen. The film Jurassic Park comes from a fragment who is rather adept at peeking in among other parallels and seeing what could happen and drawing fiction from that, because there is a parallel where that similar type of amusement park occurred. [Question] What are the benefits of having dinosaurs? MEntity: We did not say there would be benefits to having dinosaurs. [Comment] They said that the medical or genetic process by which we can recreate dinosaurs would yield to us some sort of advancements or research benefits. [Comment] Oh! I was confused, I'm sorry. [Comment] Discoveries will happen along that path. [Comment] But, because billionaires want their pet dinosaurs, they'll throw billions at the program that will develop the benefits. [Comment] That part I got, I was just thinking: what was the benefit part? MEntity: There are some parallels you wouldn't necessarily recognize, if you were to leap into them as being familiar versions of earth. In the parallels where this has occurred, the incarnational process has moved from requiring birth, and the physical growing up part to be involved has shifted to some degree to simply choosing a body, because fully grown bodies will be.... [Comment] That's like from the Twilight Zone MEntity: Another fragment who can explore the various parallel options. [Question] So they would choose just fully grown cloned bodies? MEntity: Yes. The birthing process would simply be a matter of waking up in the body. Of course, regardless of how a fragment is birthed into a body, whether it be a fully grown body that has been cloned or genetically grown, there is still almost always a seven-year adjustment period that the fragment, or the essence, or the consciousness must go through in adjusting. Even in your current parallel, your current world, across all parallels, the capacity to walk into a body is rare, but still a choice that is made so that, if you are done with your body, the body doesn't have to die with your leaving the body, but another essence can step in. These are referred to as walk-ins, and the walk-ins still take seven years to adjust to being in that new body. [Comment] My friend Ryan was a walk in. And he doesn't remember most of anything of his childhood, like during seven years a big chunk of his childhood (unclear) [Comment] Was he in a coma then or just one day he woke up as a different person? [Comment] He had gotten sick as a child. MEntity: Yes. The walk-in process requires the body to go into some sort of altered state for that to occur, so that's usually in a traumatic experience, illness, coma, and so forth. But our point is that there is still a growing up process that must be experienced; it's just different. [Question] So dinosaurs won't necessarily be a bad thing? MEntity: No. It is only a novelty that these might seem such a strange possibility. But even in this parallel, you live with creatures on the planet that you will never come in contact with or be affected by. And so it is in those parallels where these have been capable of being generated or built. Many only see word of, or rather media coverage of, these rather than ever come in contact of them. We don't see any instances where there are rampages or takeovers. [Comment] No Planet of the Apes. MEntity: And quite short lived as well. As with many dangerous directions that humans take, once it's established that it can be done, it is often not returned to. [Comment] Is that why they don't cure any diseases? “Oh we could, but nah.” [Question] Can you specify how it is a danger to humanity that once we discover a process we don't return to it? MEntity: No. What we were trying to convey is that sometimes some of the more dangerous directions that are chosen, such as atom bombs or the regeneration of dinosaurs, are established as having been accomplished, and in that establishment there is no need to return to it as a resource or as a constant. It is much like a child who has been told that the stove is hot. The child will still want to touch that stove until it's proven that it's hot, and once it's burned realizes “Oh, I don't have to touch that to know that it's hot.” So does the human species, or any sentient species, often do something dangerous and destructive and then say “Oh, we don't have to do that again.” Do you understand? [Comment] Yes MEntity: So it is not dangerous in itself to go in that direction, or dangerous not to. We were describing the fact that those things deemed dangerous are often not returned to. And so the creation of dinosaurs is a short-lived experiment that proved it can be done and then is focused in a direction that is more beneficial and less about novelty. We will wrap things up then here with a round of one personal question apiece, and we will see if we can get responses for you. You may begin. Personal Questions Excluded