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  1. July 1, 2004 Troy Tolley, Channel Michael Speaks Online – Open Floor [Note: Here is the transcript from Thursday’s Chat! It was great! I have asked Michael for some clarification on some of it, so there is editing involved. Enjoy! Troy] [M Entity] Hello to everyone. We are here with you. Tonight we will open the floor to any questions or topics of interest to each of you as best we can. Troy has restrictions against personal questions, but if you have a way to present a question that is beneficial for all, we will attempt to respond accordingly. [kittlekats41] This is based on a personal experience, but I am interested in an answer that everyone can relate to: when we moved down to Atlanta we stopped overnight at a hotel. Upon arrival here [to Atlanta] the energy felt off-centered and discordant, which it hadn’t been before. One of the cats was especially vocal and restless. We determined that we had picked up a ‘stray’ energy that attached itself to us at the hotel with a number of others; we were able to clean the space and remove the energy into a better environment for it – an old tree that is grounded. The question is: a) how common is it for this type of experience to occur? b) how can we deal with it when it does? and c) are animals a common barometer to identify when it happens? That is my question:-) [M Entity] We would first respond that we would not describe any energy as “stray” that might attach itself to you randomly. We have rarely seen a case of energetic resonance that was not in some way “invited” or allowed. However, what you refer to as “hotels” and “motels” are full of what might accurately be described as “echo energies”. In other words, the emotional and intellectual imprints from the many fragments passing through a small space (which is assumed by fragments to be a sanctuary in many ways) can become literally “coated” with these “echoes” of energy. In the same way that there are “ghosts” of the dead, there are “ghosts” of the living, as well. “Ghosts” are merely echoes of energy, whether from the living or the dead. With all of that being said, your being affected by an echo is based on a particular resonance you must have had with that “echo”. It appears to us that you were in a space of deeper concern, worry, anticipation, and possibly anxiety, than you were in the previous trip. [kittlekats41] true [M Entity] This would naturally align you with any other fragment's concerns, worries, anticipations, anxiety that had left an imprint in that hotel room or location. This alignment then would naturally amplify your own energy, yet again, and because it then becomes disproportional to your original concerns, etc., it can feel strangely disconcerting and distracting. [kittlekats41] would that echo remain as a presence for a number of weeks afterwards and be detected by the animals? [M Entity] We will respond to your questions as quickly and as orderly as possible. The way you can “deal with this” is to consciously “clear the space” in any environment that has acted as a sanctuary for so many other fragments. Doing so upon settling into your room can greatly increase your experience of peace and temporary ownership of that space. A simple visualization of a colorful light of your choice sweeping through the room and clearing it of all darker or heavier energies is enough. It is not necessary to create an elaborate ritual; just a simple, conscious shifting of the room’s energy to accommodate you is enough. We would suggest avoiding rituals focusing on “protection”, as this simply amplifies a contrast between you and your space and does not effect a peaceful, restful shift. Animals are more sensitive to these echoes than most humans, but they are even more sensitive to the effects of the echoes on their human companions. In other words, your animal companion was responding to your own agitations than to the separate “stray energy” you theorized. The “echo” remains only in the space in which is imprinted, but the effects of that echo upon you can last for weeks. It was Good Work that you created time to transform that effect upon you and to ground yourself again. [BradburySE] I just have a question about the number of inputs for the various roles. It seems to be well known that Artisans have five inputs and Sages three, but how about the other roles? I've never seen this written anywhere. [M Entity] The “solid roles” of King, Warrior, and Scholar have a single input, while the inspirational roles of Priest and Server have 2 inputs. [H2OSprtlvr] We were talking about the 9/11 movie by Michael Moore and it was mentioned that he is a Sage and he had a reincarnation from Josiah Royce. This seems confusing to me that he is a Sage, because all the studying and fact finding is so Scholar. I was wondering where the Scholar might be in his personality, since Sages only want to have fun and are not into fact finding or writing books. [M Entity] First we will say that we have never said, nor have we implied, that Sages “only want to have fun” and that they are not “into fact finding or writing books”. This conclusion is highly simplified and inaccurate of the Sage and of the Scholar. The very Essence of a Sage is to find the Truth and then to disseminate what they have come to believe is true. In that search for the Truth, they will use any means possible. The stereotype of the Sage comes from the fact that in most cases a Sage's method of “fact-finding” and “writing books” simply ends up looking like so much more “fun”. By contrast, the Scholars have been responsible for some of the most influential and “beautiful” music on your planet. This could look contrary to the stereotype of the Scholar, but in fact the Scholar finds the connection between music and math to be one of the most beautiful aspects of life on earth and if that can be translated into music, they will try. We explain this to you to help contribute to your broadening understanding of the Roles of Sage and Scholar. This is not to say that the fragment now known as Michael Moore does not have Scholar influences, because, in fact, he actually does. This Sage is Scholar-Cast, with a Server Essence Twin. [H2OSprtvr] I realize I was stereotyping and I'm grateful for further clarification on the roles. [M Entity] Comparing the lives of Beethoven and Royce/Moore can give you great insight into the differences between how a Sage-Cast Scholar (Beethoven) vs. a Scholar-Cast Sage (Michael Moore) may act within a lifetime. In most cases, a Sage-Cast individual will behave more like the “stereotypical” Sage than a Sage with different Casting. Furthermore, in most instances when a fragment is behaving like one of the Essence “stereotypes”, it is usually an indicator of that person's Casting than of their Role. [BingeBuddie] I know this may seem like a very basic question, but I have had a hard time validating my role in essence. With so many factors to consider such as casting, ET influence, overleaves, and entity position, etc. is there any definitive way to determine your role? I’ve went with channels in the past, but that causes confusion because its difficult to tell what one input is as opposed to many inputs, such as Scholar having one and Artisan having 5. One channel Roles (Scholar, King, and Warrior) can concentrate in the midst of chaos right? So that's kind of what I try to look at. Is that a good indicator? [M Entity] No, we would not suggest using your ability to concentrate as your determining factor. The symptom of concentration vs. distraction in terms of Input is another of the simplifications that can happen when first learning about a part of the teaching. While it is true that an Essence with a single input can usually focus more intently in the midst of chaos, the influence of Personality, Imprinting, and Situations can greatly affect that level of concentration. What we would suggest as part of your validation of your Role in Essence is this: First, study the Roles. It is important to truly comprehend each Role. This means moving beyond the stereotypes that are a part of the initial stage of learning. Next, it is important to understand the vital differences between Essence and Casting. Casting affects how you behave “naturally”, how you express yourself to the world on a DAILY BASIS. Your Essence Role is most obviously comprehended in moments where you feel you SHINE. For instance: A Scholar-Cast Sage: In the daily life of this individual he may appear unkempt, distracted, refined, studious, directed, serious, and maybe even a bit out of synch socially, but this fragment would “shine” as soon as he was able to publicly share what he has gained as experiences in a way that was entertaining to at least a small group. A Sage-Cast Scholar, on the other hand, may be dramatic, socially obnoxious, emotional, depressed, extreme, performing, and chaotic in his daily life, but this fragment would “shine” when he is able to wholly comprehend something that can be finalized as a bit of profound personal knowledge. We do not know of a more appropriate word than “shine”. When you are in Essence, you feel complete, “on”, and you usually feel cohesion between your mundane self and your higher self. When we say “shine”, we do not intend to mean that everyone will see this, but rather that the Personality and Essence open to each other and a sense of lightness and wholeness pervade. We explain all of this to you in the context of an Essence having a different Role than Casting, but of course, there ARE Sage-Cast Sages and Scholar-Cast Scholars, but those fragments usually have little confusion as to their Role. Having explained those basic differences between Casting and Role in Essence, you can then figure out your Role or Casting by first determining if you feel you are more exalted or more ordinal in either of those contexts. In other words, in your DAILY LIFE, are you more one-on-one, but when you “shine”, are you surrounded by people? One-on-One might indicate a more Ordinal position, while being inclined toward groups can be an indication of an Exalted position. Once you have determined how you may behave in either context, you can then determine if you feel you are more compelled to have an inspiring, expressive, or active effect on your environment. This will then give you an indication as to the final role description you might be in your Casting or your Essence. For example, you may notice you are naturally more one-on-one in your daily life, thus indicating that you may be Ordinal-Cast, but when you “shine”, you notice you love to be in a group of people in some way, indicating you may be an Exalted Essence Role. Then you would determine if you are more inclined to be expressive, inspiring, or active in your daily life. If you find you are more concerned with inspiring, you could then safely start trying out the idea that you may be SERVER-CAST. When you “shine”, you may find you are more inclined to be expressive, entertaining, and teaching-oriented, which may indicate a SAGE ESSENCE. This would then be a Server-Cast Sage. We realize this can still be very confusing and difficult to determine, but it is a start. Because the Scholar Role is neutral, it can be the most difficult to determine and we would not be able to convey in this format the depth of questioning that would need to be explored for true validation of the Essence or Casting. One of the most important things you can do while studying our teaching and seeking to validate your Role, Casting, Overleaves, Entity, and Essence Twins, etc. is be open to an evolution of your understanding. You may discover that what you believed was inaccurate channeling is actually profoundly accurate to who you realize you are becoming (as you come into your own identity). Or you may discover that your self-determined Overleaves were highly inaccurate in your initial understanding and you now see that you are someone completely different after all. Never feel as if you must conclude who you are. Our system is designed to help you understand who you are, not complicate your self-perception. If you are thoroughly confused, pick a Role, pick your Overleaves, and begin “living with them”. You will begin to see what does and does not hold validity. [BingeBuddie] But would you have to be past the 4th internal monad to judge completely accurately as to what role you are? (not to ask ANOTHER lengthy question) [M Entity] It does help to have completed the 4th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole for true self-awareness in terms of Essence, Casting, and True Personality. But then, that is the very crux of having a completion of the 4th Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, so it is not a matter of waiting for that rite to pass before seeking valid self-awareness. We are working with Troy in creating two new ways of determining your own basic profiles: a self-test, and a step-by-step process of elimination method. We believe this will help many of our students. We never sought to have any student dependent on our channels, so this is an important evolution to our sharing of the teachings. We believe we have given you at least some “food for thought” until then. [freyaisissuz] That's great, Troy, I will keep it short. I have sensed a connection with J Royce/M Moore. Is he a “reality shifter” or “dream maker” as in cadre 1/entity 3; if another, where? [M Entity] That is a valid observation. This is a fragment some of our channels would call a “wild card” within Cadre One, Entity Three, as well. This fragment is one of the youngest soul ages in that Entity. (3rd Level Mature) If there are no more questions, we will conclude for the evening. If there are more questions, we will take one more. [BradburySE]: A quick one [M Entity] Yes, Shannon, we will conclude with your question. [BradburySE] Who is this other “Dogma Dismantler” besides Michael Moore of whom you spoke in Troy’s energy report? Where will we find him, and is he or she now incarnated? [M Entity] Yes, he is incarnated: a Server Essence Twin of the Sage known as Michael Moore. The Server is a reincarnation of William James now focusing on the funneling of necessary requirements as a means to convey the Sage's “truth”. He may only be peripherally identified in the media. We believe he is one of the “producers” of Michael Moore's films, as well as several of his own projects which reflect some of the profound psychology explored in his previous life as William James. [BradburySE] Thank you, we can figure it out from here most likely! ? [M Entity] This relationship would appear to be more like a Task Companion relationship, but that is not the case. The relationship is taut with disagreements and power struggles, regardless of the powerful results. Good night to all of you. We will conclude here.
  2. KurtisM

    Sage casting after entity cycles off

    [Excerpt from Ask Michael: July 2014] [Bobby] Since it's my understanding that after an Entity cycles off that Casting plays a larger part than the Role does, would you briefly describe generally what those of you that are Sage-cast "do"? MEntity: It is more nuanced than only Casting, with your Casting within the Entity being a contributing factor. In the same way that all Sages will not manifest the same way while incarnating, neither will all Sage-Cast in the Entity. But there will be a common theme of Cardinal Expression. So, regardless of the nuances, those who are Sage-Cast will be those who spread information, communicate, bring levity, offer simple and profound insight. One of the nuances to consider is that the Role then tends to become the function that Casting had while incarnating. So a Sage-Cast Warrior while incarnating might be understood as a Warrior-Cast Sage when cycled off in the Entity. The other nuance would be the Cadence Group and Greater Cadence, of course, as well as Position. But, in general, the Sage-Cast will help tell the stories of the Entity.
  3. KurtisM

    Sage-cast Artisan

    [Excerpt from a private report posted by JamesD on February 21, 2012] MEntity: The Artisan Role is going to be how your Essence “shines” in the lifetimes, as it can fulfil its creativity, but the Sage-Casting is how you would find you “function” or live on the day-to-day basis, as you fulfill the playfulness of the child within, and the sharing of its growing wisdom. The Sage-Casting will tend to funnel all creativity of the Artisan through the Sage tendency toward play, fun, and bringing a light-heartedness to even the most profound of creativity from the Artisan. ### Note: You can comment on this material within the original post. See My Essence Report.
  4. KurtisM

    Being a Sage-cast Sage

    [Excerpted from a private session originally posted by Our Geraldine on November 11, 2007] Geraldine: My major question to start would be that as a Sage casted Sage, I seem fairly atypical -- so my focus would be getting that explained Michael Entity: We would say that it is true that you are a Sage-Cast Sage, but more typical than you might think, given the range of expression prevalent among those who are also Sage-Cast. Given the various aspects of your Overleaves, there is a tempering of the expression in the way that others may not have as a design, however, it is the manifestation of your Soul Age that makes the greatest difference. Sage-Cast fragments who are younger in Soul Age or less-comfortable with the space between their inner world and outer world will tend to be more chaotic and "typical" of what is known as "Sage behavior." In addition to your manifesting more of your Essence through your body, which brings a refinement to the Sage-Casting in itself, you are also at the 4th Level of your Soul Age, which is a level that works to resolve the differences between the inner and outer. You have found many ways to manage these differences, and one of those ways is through the refinement of your expression, along with a true appreciation of stillness and observation. Sage-Cast fragments tend to have wild and untempered expressions in their daily lives, and a Sage-Cast Sage can be a "nightmare" when in the negative poles of the personality or disconnected from Essence, but the most refined of Sage-Cast fragments are those who are Sage in Essence. ... We will return for one brief comment about your being a Sage-Cast Sage, in that while you have a refinement of expression and a nice resolution between the inner and outer of your worlds, we would remind you that you have had your moments of "going off Dixie Carter-style" and speaking your eloquent (or not-so-eloquent) piece of mind when you feel the necessity or the triggering. Geraldine: Oh yes! I validate being Sage based on a lot of previous history. I just felt I'd matured and worked to get past a lot of the more flamboyant aspects. MEntity: "Flamboyant" and "mature" are not mutually exclusive, but your maturing has brought about a wholeness that requires less "presentation" and appreciates more "presence." Because you know how you used flamboyancy and presentation, you are far more sensitive to its dishonesty of expression and while you appreciate the spectrum of expression, a true Sage values truth through expression over mere expression any day. ### end of excerpt Note: You can discuss this material in the original post. See My E&P Channeling.
  5. OMW - Aug 6, 2011 - Validating Your Profile Channel: Troy Tolley [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here. We will begin with discussion about the concept of Validation. We have shared on this subject many times, but will do so again, as it is a subject worth revisiting on a regular basis, or as necessary for rekindling the active process of validating. We have described the processes of Validation to include INTERNAL Validation, EXTERNAL Validation, and TRUE Validation. INTERNAL Validation is the process of determining what is valid and true for the self, and this does not have to be valid and true for anyone else. EXTERNAL Validation is the process of determining what is valid and true for others, and this is not always valid or true for the self. TRUE Validation is the process of matching Internal and External Validation into a kind of wholeness. The Validation process is never about absolutes, and is always about personal truths. Truth that is from the Global or Universal Levels of Truth require no validation for them to be Truths, but Internal and External Validation can help one to work with those truths, reject them, work around them, etc. For instance, Gravity is true for your planet and everyone on it, regardless of whether you have validated this for yourself, or not. However, if you fall down, you now have an experience that may validated the truth of Gravity for you, Internally validating it. If you see someone else fall down, you may then have witnessed the validity of Gravity for others, Externally validating it. This is True Validation. But in terms of Validation, it only means that it is now "true for you." However true and valid Gravity may be, there may be some who refuse to validate it for themselves, or they ignore the implications of what falling down may mean. This kind of logic and equation, if you will, remains the same for Universal, Global, and Personal Truths. NONE of them are true and valid for YOU until you Validate them. Validating from only one side, Internally or Externally, does not mean a truth is half-valid, or not valid, but that it is only true IN THOSE CONTEXTS. For instance, Love is a Universal Truth. You may have validated that it exists Externally, because you see it play out around you, and hear about it, and know others claim to have experienced it, but you have never truly grasped the validity of it for yourself. This means that Love is true and valid Externally, but not Internally. For YOU. Conversely, you may have grasped the magnitude of what Love truly is, moving unconditionally and with agape through your social and intimate relationships, accepting yourself and others, but having a hard time seeing this same state played out among your fellow humans in the world; seeing a great lack of love around you in others' lives. You know that Love is True. For YOU. But you have not Externally validated it in a way that it shows up in the world around you. Keeping this difference between Internal Validation and External Validation in mind can free you from a great deal of confusion and frustration when one is lacking. We often see our students using Validation as a form of defense against participation in the world, or as a means to delude themselves, or resist ideas and insights, because they have decided what is true Internally, but forget that it can also be validated Externally. Some of our students decide what their Overleaves and Role are, and regardless of feedback or evidence to the contrary, or evolving understanding through study, will continue to uphold that those Overleaves are valid. And they are. To them. And some think this is as far as Validation needs to go. Others may receive an inaccurate set of Overleaves from a channel and then work hard to make those Overleaves fit, because this set has been presented as valid, Externally, via the channel. Some think this is as far as Validation needs to go. In other words, Validation is reduced to "If I say it is true, that is all that matters." or "If [a channel] says it is true, then it must be." To some extent, both of those statements are true and valid, but only if you decide they are. Determining what is true for you, or accepting as truth what is true for others, are fair ways to work through experiments and explorations of the Physical Plane, but neither of these bring wholeness, and neither of these allows you or Essence to be fully present in your world. True Validation is not "easy," and it is often a dangerous obstacle to evolution, but it is also one of the only ways to truly evolve. When we say that it is "not easy," we mean that it is not often the case that you can find Internal and External agreement for validation. When we say that it can be a "dangerous obstacle to evolution," we mean that sometimes when both Internal and External validation matches up, those involved can resign from validating or questioning beyond that. An example of the first might be a homosexual teen who knows "who he is," and yet his family insists he is wrong about, or for, his sexuality. An example of the latter might be something like that which comes from cult thinking, such as "Jim Jones," "Manson," or "Heaven's Gate." This is why we build into our teaching an insecurity or instability that will always remain as a means to keep our students questioning, grappling, trying to make sense, taking separate stances, etc., because it is a teaching that supports your evolution, and is not meant to provide comfort and sanctuary. As soon as all of our students would agree, this teaching would no longer be a teaching. We share all of this with you because the process of Validation is not as simple as deciding what the truth is, and it is not as simple as someone else deciding what the truth is, and it is not as simple as everyone agreeing. It could be said, then, that Validation is "an active, conscious, constant navigation of Internal and External truths that can never be presumed conclusive." Before we get into the Overleaves, we will share one more consideration regarding Validation. Validation is a Monadal Process: a process of returning to a state of wholeness that is compromised of seemingly contrary or divided forces or states. This Wholeness is ultimately greater than the sum of the parts. Validation, then, is a constant dance between Internal and External truths. When one insists on one or the other, division is the result, regardless of how true something may be Internally or Externally. But there is a solution, even if only temporary, along the way to True Validation. And along the way through True Validation. And that is through the truth of: I DO NOT KNOW. Or: THEY MAY NOT KNOW. Taking the example of the homosexual teen who has struggled with accepting his sexuality, and has done so with great love, but is rejected by family for having done so, with their insisting he is wrong or bad, how can Wholeness for the teen come from this? He would embrace these conflicting truths, allow them to exist, under the umbrella of "THEY MAY NOT KNOW" and "I DO NOT KNOW. In this case, "They May Not Know" would refer to the fact that the family may simply not understand that that this difference in sexuality is of no threat, no consequence, no sin, and nothing more than a small part of him. This grasping of their lack of knowing can help to cultivate patience, and to help deflect the personal feelings of rejection and hurt that come from their lack of knowing. "I DO NOT KNOW" might refer to the fact that he does not have the skills right now to manage the rejection, the necessity to educate them, the impact of their words, etc. NOT KNOWING is always a viable bridge between conflicting truths. It "buys you time," allows for patience, compassion, effort, awareness, insight, perception, etc to come into the process. To be even more inviting of those helpful qualities, it might be helpful to add: "It is okay for now... that I do not know." or "It is okay for now, that they do not know." All of what we have shared above can help in the process of validating your Profile, Overleaves, Essence, and all channeling that might come through our channels, as well as your explorations of self, relationships, choices, and life. It can also help you in moments of conflicting truths where the battle to impose an External Truth over yourself, or to impose an Internal Truth over others, is simply useless and pointless. True Validation never comes through imposition, but through education and invitation. If you find that you are uncomfortable with a truth, or trying to force a truth, it does not necessarily mean that this truth is not valid, but that you "do not know." And that is as profound to embrace as knowing. Now we will move this into application for validating your Overleaves. Before we take on specific questions, we will say that the above can be applied in this way: Your Overleaves can be Internally Validated by you through your understanding of the terminology and how those accurately describe and lend insight into how you understand yourself. Your Overleaves can be Externally Validated by others through your seeing the behavior and feedback of others in relation to you, as you gain this self-understanding. External Validation of your Overleaves does not necessarily mean that someone else decides, "yes, that term fits." To rely only on confirmation of terminology would never give you True Validation. But if you find that your Internal Validation of the terms as they help you understand yourself is also affecting how others respond and react to you, as well as how you respond and react to them, then you may have found True Validation. In any case of terminology where you may not KNOW, the next steps are education and invitation. Which is why we are here with you today. We will leave it to Geraldine to choose the order of the questioning, but we will now open the floor to your questions about specific elements of your Profile. We will offer what we can for help in your, at least, Internally Validating the term, and then your External Validation may come in time. FLOOR IS OPEN [Martha] my question is about true vs public/private - is that on the table? [MEntity] Yes, Martha. Formulate your question about this and we will respond. [Martha] some of the overleaves for me are so different between true - public - private that it seems it speaks to me not having my subs integrated or something along those lines especially the centering was completely different for each one so some help with understanding that is what I'm looking for [MEntity] The Public and Private sets of Overleaves are shortcuts to understanding how, in general, one wishes to be seen, and how one is seen. They do not speak to sub-personalities, but do speak to the facets/personas that one may have developed. In your case, your sets describe the distance between how you see yourself vs how others see you, or how you wish to present yourself vs how you tend to be received. [Martha] So I act like a server and look like a warrior? LOL [MEntity] Though personas/facets may be related to sub-personalities, they are not necessarily connected. [Martha] or act like a warrior and look like a server? [Martha] but all sage cast :) [Martha] it's confusing [MEntity] In your case, the profiles speak more to the fact that you find yourself falling into positions of subservience and nurturing on a rather regular basis, but because of the resentments that may come from that, you can show up as harsh, frustrated, coercive, pushy. To respond to the Sage Casting for both, it would simply mean that you will still be expressive in either case, and often in loud ways. [Diane_H] I would like more clarity on Server casting. How I use it, etc. You previously mentioned I mainly serve myself, which I agree with. But most of my days I act more Scholarly. [MEntity] Though the Role is how one "shines" in the world, it requires the presence, or Manifestation, of Essence for that to happen on any regular basis, and this is something a Personality may or may not strive to do in a lifetime. However, Casting will always show up, as it is how the Personality defaults to functioning on a day-to-day basis. To help with Validation of any Role or Casting Position, it can help to look at other qualities that describe that Axis. In the case of the Server, you would want to look at the fact that this is an Ordinal Casting, first. It is Ordinal/Inspirational, next. This means that on a day-to-day basis, you may find that you naturally gravitate toward one-on-one scenarios, rather than group scenarios, and because you are Inspirationally-Cast, it would mean these one-on-one scenarios may require some sort of Meaning for them to be at all. [Diane_H] That's true, I hadn't thought about the Inspirational aspect. [MEntity] If something of Meaning can be brought to the exchange, then it may be more comfortable or pursued, but meaningless or random social or intimate contact is usually not of interest to the day-to-day functioning. The Priest seeks to bring Meaning to the masses, or a path to the creation of Meaning, whereas the Server seeks to bringing Meaning to the individual, or at least a path to the creation of that Meaning. [Diane_H] That really fits. [MEntity] If Server Casting is valid for you, it may show up as your being an important contact person for an important handful of fragments over time as you connect them to Meaning. Looking further, it might show up as a Re-evaluation in your pursuit of your Goal, Reserved in your Relationships, Stoic in your Perceptions, and even Self-deprecating, in general, in your day-to-day functioning. Re-evaluation of your Goal would show up as your constantly ebbing and flowing, halting and launching, always questioning the progress of your pursuit of your actual Goal in terms of the Overleaf, but also in terms of general goals, such as career. [Diane_H] Wow, that's a bull's-eye [MEntity] Reservation in your Relationships would mean always monitoring yourself, sometimes with Restraint, and sometimes with Inhibition, as you build yourself up in contexts of intimacy and resonance. The Stoicism in Perceptions might show up as your always keeping cool, or appearing cool, unfazed, no matter what you see, or how something is perceived, sometimes through Tranquility, and sometimes through Resignation. Though you will have your spectrum of Overleaves that describe you in much more detail, your Casting Position is like a packaged form of that entire Axis, and it will permeate the other Overleaves in some way. [Diane_H] But I also have all neutral overleaves, how would I begin to tell the difference between sliding and effects of casting? [Diane_H] Or perhaps I slide to the Server overleaves more easily? [MEntity] Neutral Overleaves ALWAYS appear like other Overleaves, hence their being Neutral. Neutral Overleaves will always "slide" as a means for functioning, and they may often go to the Axis of the Role or Casting. In your case, for you to truly Flow, you will slide to Growth or Dominance. Both of these are on the Axes related to your Casting and Role. The GOAL will remain the same, which is to Flow, but your means of Flow is to sometimes turn your challenges into opportunities for Growth/Evolution, and sometimes into opportunities to return yourself to a position of Dominance/Leadership. Validating Neutral Overleaves will always go back to looking at the Positive and Negative Poles as descriptions of where you land. For example, you tend to "take charge" and move into Dominance because you have fallen into Inertia, or feeling like life is not going anywhere, or is moving in a direction you would rather alter, and though you will use Dominance to alter that Inertia, it is still for the sake of Freedom, or returning yourself to a state of peace, not a state of control. [Diane_H] Very true [ClaireC] My "True Work/Life Task" seems rather abstract, no doubt because it probably relates to the "Big Picture". I'm able to validate that I do find commonalities amongst apparently disparate people and groups of people, however, could you give me other examples of how the pursuit of my "Task" has manifested in my life? [MEntity] Yes, Life Tasks are deliberately broad in scope, because we do not wish to define for you how you fulfill your Tasks, but our descriptions should still be able to be found in evidence, if valid, and if the Task is actually pursued. In some cases the evidence is obvious and grand, and in some cases, it is "right under your nose," and completely missed. In your case, the pursuit of this Life Task is still being explored, and there are only hints of its fulfillment at the moment. Most paths of fulfillment of a Life Task are rather subtle in the beginning, and are often not even clear until retrospect is possible. Your pursuit seems to show up most often in two ways: through being "in the middle" between those who are divided in some way, and by pulling together concepts from various systems that can then be translated into something useful for yourself or someone else. You seem to do this so naturally that you might even take it for granted. [ClaireC] Yes, this really resonates with me. [MEntity] Some may dive into a system and that becomes a core around which other systems must adapt, which is just as valid a means of exploration as any, but in your case, your Life Task is to bring systems together like gears in a clock. And by "systems," we also include people. For now, with minimal evidence of your Life Task, we can offer this up as a means to help with your Validation: Beneath your relationships and philosophies, you may find a dominant undercurrent question that may be something like, "Now, how and where does THIS fit..." [ClaireC] That's exactly how I function....like a giant jigsaw puzzle [MEntity] Others may relate to that kind of questioning, as well, but in your case, it shapes a great deal of your choices and pursuits, all funneling into the Life Task to find or create commonalities/common ground within various systems. [carolyn] Hello it's vey good to meet you here. I would like to ask if stepping into a designated "space of information" regarding the nine realities, could be used as a valid way of creating greater understanding around the True Validation of Overleaves. Particularly if this involved working in tandem with an entity mate or someone from your Circle of Support [MEntity] If we are understanding you correctly, we would say that is a valid means for bringing True Validation. This would be a process of recognizing that you may not share the same understanding, insight, experiences, "reality," but that your intention to invite and educate so that you can build some shared understanding, insight, experiences, and even "reality," then. It can also be the same if you already share these things, so that feedback is felt to be trusted and honest when exploring who you are to yourself and someone else. [carolyn] Share the same Overleaves? [carolyn] Well an aspect of your overleaves to be more precise. [MEntity] If you already share a reality with someone, share truths, share perceptions, it can be helpful for the validation process, but only if the intention is for validation, and not justification. [carolyn] By "inviting" say the Enlightenment position from your Circle of Support to assist, could this help further validate as opposed to justify? [MEntity] Those who share the same overleaves may show up as completely different Personalities because of how those Overleaves are used, so this would need to be considered, but there would be core traits that can be used by both. An Enlightenment Position from your Support Circle, such as we are for you and our students, is quite helpful for validation of such esoteric, philosophical, and intangible elements of the self and life. The Enlightenment Position helps one to develop the structures through which experiences are organized, understood, and processed, and having that in place can help a great deal when seeking True Validation of anything. Have we understood your questions accurately? [carolyn] Yes, thank you. [Geraldine] I've never completely validated to my satisfaction that I'm Sage-casted Sage; however, I think that is in large part due to poor definitions for Old Soul Sages in positive poles. I've validated my saginess more from how I acted when younger more than as I've been during the past 20 years or so. Although, I'm accepting that Old Sages may be far more wise and involved with truth than we give them credit for being. But, I liked how you worked with Diane's casting based on her Axis. Would you do similarly for me, even though I have matching casting/role? [MEntity] First, we will say that in the case of Sage for Casting or Role, the "packaging" would include Acceptance, Power, and Idealism, even Greed. In your case, these would show up not only when you "shine," but as a means for functioning on a day-to-day basis. Regardless of Soul Age, Sages will ALWAYS be affected by issues of Acceptance, and regardless of the Goal, will always move in directions that support or encourage Acceptance. This progresses in cycles of pushing for Acceptance of the self and of pushing for Acceptance of others. Beneath every motivation of a Sage is somehow connected to the pursuit of being Accepted. [Geraldine] Yes, I'm prone to a sweeping feeling of being rejected on a heartbeat. [MEntity] In other words, Dissemination or Oration will always be related to a Sage's navigation of Acceptance. For example, most Sages who Orate do so as a means to compensate for a sense of not being Accepted. [carolyn] I was cast with Sage as a discarnate Essence Twin, Priest role and Artisan cast. They all seem to fit on some level. [MEntity] Common to the motivation of all Sages would be statements that might go something like "I am telling you this so you can accept me;" or "I am telling you this so you can accept that;" or "I am telling you this so you can accept you;" or "I am telling you this so I can express my acceptance." [Martha] Oh yeah, that fits [Martha] A Sage must have come up with the "Like" button [MEntity] Going further, all Sages take a stance of Authority or Oppression in terms of relating information to you. Sages RELATE to the world, or to others, in terms of Expression in the face of Oppression, or sharing information as an Authority on that particular information. Power Mode is about being Present, and this is how Sages make their presence known. This is why Sages can come across as "obnoxious" and as "know it alls," because this is their nature: to be themselves, even when you wish they would not, and to speak or communicate with confidence, even as they know there may be more to learn. Sages have PRESENCE, or in our system, POWER. Sages cannot relate to others without feeling PRESENT. Otherwise, they are invisible, and invisible equals non-existent. No other Role (or Casting) requires their Presence to be known as a means for experiencing existence. Sages must show up somehow, to someone, or they die, either or both metaphorically and literally. Going further, all Sages, regardless of Soul Age, see the world in terms of how it can be improved. Regardless of the Attitude of the Personality, there will always be a theme of communicating for the sake of improving what has been deemed in need of improvement, whether this is a slow conversation, an awkward moment, a relationship, or a paradigm. Sages may do this through telling you all of the steps necessary for that improvement (coalescence) or by simply telling you it needs to improve (naivety). To Geraldine: are you finding resonance with these descriptions? [Martha] (I know I am) [MEntity] We will continue. In terms of the validating your Overleaves, will offer up statements and questions that can help in determining the validity of your set of Overleaves: [Geraldine] (and yes, I was) [MEntity] For your GOAL, a helpful way to understand how it shows up in your life is to ask: Is this a state to which I constantly strive to return my life, or the lives of others? For instance, those with a Goal of Acceptance will always find a theme of effort to be accepted, accept themselves, accept others, and encourage others to accept each other. Always. No matter what is going on in the life, the pursuit of this quality represented by the Goal is always a motivating factor in every choice. The Positive Pole is usually the most obvious way to find the validation in terms of your aim, and the Negative Pole is usually the most obvious in terms of when you feel the most ineffective or defeated. In other words, someone in Discrimination may see it most obviously in terms of moving his life into a state of refinement, or Sophistication, but can also validate Discrimination by seeing that he turns to Rejection as a way of dealing with defeat or ineffectiveness. Acceptance can see that he aims for bringing more affection or Agape into his life and the lives of others, but responds with Ingratiation when feeling defeated or ineffective in doing so. For your MODE, it can most often be validated by what you seek to encourage out of others, and what you often see is missing in others. For instance, Passion Mode would tend to encourage Passion out of others, and may gravitate toward others who lack Passion. Observation Mode might encourage others to pay more attention, and often gravitate toward those who have a hard time seeing clearly. For the ATTITUDE, it may be most easily validated by seeing what it is you most often find yourself trying to convince in others. The Spiritualist will try to convince others to the possibilities, and the Cynic might try to convince others to see the other side of the obvious, while the Idealist would try to convince others that the self, relationship, life can always be improved upon. We do not have time in this format to go through each overleaf, but these efforts to convince can show up in both positive and negative ways, relative to the poles. For instance, the Spiritualist would seek to convince others of possibilities, and can do so through helping others verify those possibilities, or by encouraging blind faith, or belief. In another format, in another time, we can describe all of the overleaves in terms that are far more capable of use for validation. We will conclude here for today. Our channel is fading in focus. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.
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    20140706 Ask Michael

    Ask Michael in Live Session Open Floor July 6, 2014 Channel: Troy Tolley [Hani] There are claims made of multiple Essences utilizing the same body by switching in and out over the lifetime. Is this possible? I am not talking about walk in and walk out [MEntity] Only one Essence can ever "inhabit" a body. The body cannot act as a revolving door for Essences. Though one body can have been host to 2 or more Essences across a lifetime, it is never at once, and rarely more than 2. The shift between one Essence to another is often traumatic, or at least done through the exploitation of a trauma, and takes up to 7 years for full transition. It is not a process that is taken lightly. [Hani] I understand, thank you [MEntity] However, the Personality and/or Essence of a body can act as a conduit for as many Essences as it wishes. This is how the Transcendental Soul Manifests. It is only one Essence representing the whole of the Entity, but all of the fragments of that Entity have access to all that is that body's experiences and life. This is, also, how Guides work, and Essence Twins when one is not extant. When there is a Personality who senses fragmentation, it is usually relative to the Personality, not variations of Essences. That Personality is likely compartmentalized, divided, fractured, and has evolved into facets that either lose contact with one another, or revolve as distinct facets around a central core trait. Every Personality has sub-personalities, but for some, these can become distinct facets that have no communication with one another, such as is the case with Dissociative Identity Disorder, but if there is communication, the range can be from "normal" variations on Personality to accommodate various contexts of life, to extreme facets that, while still communicating, identify as separate. [Kurtis] Hi Michael, much like in past exchanges I'd like an elaboration of both Perseverance Mode and Power Mode that can cater to all soul ages, and much like before, an explanation of the - and +Poles as well. [MEntity] PERSEVERANCE MODE is the Ordinal, Action Mode. The Mode describes how one fulfills the Goal, and how one Relates. In its Positive Pole, there is Persistence, and in its Negative Pole, there is Unchanging. PERSISTENCE is the capacity to navigate around, over, and through obstacles, whereas UNCHANGING is the capacity to repeatedly confront obstacles. In Persistence, there is a sense of one's position relative to an obstacle or direction, and these are known to be dynamic. There is awareness that both the obstacle/direction and the one acting can change, evolve, alter, etc. In Unchanging, this dynamic is lost. It is no longer a dance, but a matter of pushing forward or into, and knocking down or clearing a path that has been determined. There is only a sense of direction or movement if that obstacle is overcome. Consider the difference between one amputee who has lost her legs and finds a way to work with her obstacles, while another determines that if those legs are gone, then everything on the other side of that is lost, unless those legs are returned. One is Persistence. One is Unchanging. When one is Unchanging, it is the Positive Pole of the partner Mode, Aggression, that will help to move one back into Persistence. The Positive Pole of Aggression is Dynamism. In other words, there is no division between self and obstacle/direction. They are parts of an equation that describe the paths of life. Both contribute to the path. Unchanging is when one has determined that the obstacle is in the way of the path. Power is Presence, then. When one owns one's presence, or power, there is Authority. This is simply the management of expression in a way that is responsible, considered, and aware of its impact on others. When one depends on others as their source of presence, or power, then it falls into Oppression. This is true on the scale of oppression that one sees regarding minorities or non-sentient creatures, as well as in terms of the self. To Oppress the self is to defer power and presence to the permission one seeks or takes from others. Put another way: To oppress the self is to defer power and presence to the permission for expression one seeks or takes from others. Or, to oppress others is to draw power and presence from restricting expression of others. For one to move out of the Negative Pole of Power, one needs to slide to the Positive Pole of Caution, Deliberation. When this is regarding self-oppression, it is when one chooses a specific way or context of expressing oneself, rather than not expressing oneself at all. When this is regarding oppression of others, it is the ownership of how one has interpreted the expression or presences of others as deliberately affecting oneself, when, in fact, it has not. Deliberation is merely the slowing down of thought so as to be careful in how one experiences or delivers expression. Though we can continue to elaborate upon these, we must consider the queue. [Maureen] Michael, I can see how Personal Truths line up: HONESTY: Truth, SINCERITY: Love, INTEGRITY: Energy, but I’d like your take on how Global Truths and Universal Truths line up with Truth, Love and Energy. The one that I’m having the most trouble reconciling is the Global Truth of NATIONAL that lines up with Love. I’m not sure how that fits as many of us Older Souls don’t see “Love” of a country or being nationalistic as fitting in with our larger view of “the world”. If there is time, would you provide a short explanation for the Global Truths and the Universal Truths so we can see how they align with Truth, Love and Energy? If not, just an explanation of the Global Truth, NATIONAL: Love, would be appreciated. [MEntity] Nationalism/Nationalistic is not the same thing as Love for one's country. The former tends to be built upon notions of superiority, whereas the latter is built upon gratitude, nostalgia, and appreciation. When one tends to one's home, it can be from notions of superiority to one's neighbors, or it can be from the sense of importance to nurture one's space. This is true on the National scale, as well. The people of a Nation are benefited when there is Love of those peoples. This can be a dividing line in Politics, for example. Self-preservation based in superiority, or nurturing on a grand scale for as many as possible. However, keep in mind that our response for corresponding Truth, Love, and Energy to the variations of truth within each category of truth, is only for convenience, not from literal representation. It may be more accurate to see these as Axes, not as specific terms. So, for example, Honesty is Expressive, Personal Truth. Sincerity is Inspirational, Personal Truth. Integrity is Active, Personal Truth. Remember that Truths are relative here. Community is Expressive Global Truths, or how a Community expresses, represents itself within the spectrum of how other communities do so. National is Inspirational Global Truth, or how a people of a nation feel about their place on the planet among other nations. Planetary is Active Global Truths, or how a planet of people behaves in relation to other planets/off-planet life. In Universal Terms, every single fragment will have a Body, Mind, and Soul, and these are conduits for expression, inspiration, and action, and this is true no matter where, when, or who you would experience. We think we have expanded on these enough for now, but we can further clarify these in further discussions. [JanaK] I have a follow up question regarding the talk on the topic of Reincarnation. It’s about the “stuck” Personalities. There have been a couple of “teasers” throw out, which I would like more clarification on. I will state how I understood it, so please correct anything that I have misunderstood. So if I understand it correctly, what determines whether the Personality is stuck, is whether they do or don’t complete the Review and reunite with Essence. If they don’t complete it and don’t unite with Essence, then they keep literally reincarnating, living through variations on the same lifetime (presumably this happens in separate parallels). They keep doing this, until they evolve enough to be able to reunite with Essence, in which they sometimes need to be helped. You have also said, that in this way they all do get to eventually complete all 7 IMs. Yet, I also thought one can complete Review and reunite with Essence without completing all 7 IMs? Are all personalities stuck until they have lived in some way (parallel or looping) till 7th IM in positive? [MEntity] Here is the distinction we may have not clarified in our initial delivery: Those Personalities that fulfill an Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, regardless of whether the First, the Second, Third, etc. will likely NOT loop, but go through Review and gather on the Astral, being "collected" in the final Level of that Soul Age. Those Personalities that fall into a loop are those that do not complete an Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, or resign to the Negative Pole of an Internal Monad. That Personality will "loop" until it has completed the Internal Monad relative to what it had been trying to complete, and then it can move into Review. However, it is quite common that these Personalities will just continue to completion of all 7 Internal Monads, however many loops that would take. It Reviews, but mostly for the sake of updating Essence. The Personality is not quite capable of full comprehension until there is at least one Personality that has completed all 7 Internal Monads. Then the gathering of all Personalities from the Soul Age compile experiences for Review that launches the Essence into the next Soul Age. Because of the uniting of experiences and processes, then all Personalities that are a part of that benefit and, technically, each completes all 7 Internal Monads relative to their own lives. Those Personalities in a loop will have done so for themselves by this time, and will join the evolution into the next Soul Age, or will remain and continue in their loops, until either the completion of the 7th Internal Monad on their own, or help comes. Each of you will likely have several "loops" that will need to be collected from across your Soul Ages when you get to your 7th Level of the Old Soul Age. [Bobby] Since it's my understanding that after an Entity cycles off that Casting plays a larger part than the Role does, would you briefly describe generally what those of you that are Sage-cast "do"? [MEntity] It is more nuanced than only Casting, with your Casting within the Entity being a contributing factor. In the same way that all Sages will not manifest the same way while incarnating, neither will all Sage-Cast in the Entity. But there will be a common theme of Cardinal Expression. So, regardless of the nuances, those who are Sage-Cast will be those who spread information, communicate, bring levity, offer simple and profound insight. One of the nuances to consider is that the Role then tends to become the function that Casting had while incarnating. So a Sage-Cast Warrior while incarnating might be understood as a Warrior-Cast Sage when cycled off in the Entity. The other nuance would be the Cadence Group and Greater Cadence, of course, as well as Position. But, in general, the Sage-Cast will help tell the stories of the Entity. [ClaireC] Michael, could you tell us where horses are in the hierarchy of the animal kingdom and how their Animal-Companion bond with humans is affected by the fact that they are often "working" animals? Is it any different than trained, performing dogs or circus animals? [MEntity] Though there is hierarchy of intelligence among most domestic or domesticated animals, there is very little difference emotionally. There are differences, but little. The range of intelligence only determines how that species can communicate its emotions, and how it organizes its experiences. This goes for chickens, cows, pigs, horses, birds, dogs, cats, etc. We are going to define "domesticated" as any of those species in captivity with which one can develop a relationship. There are many "pets" that fall outside of that, such as many reptiles or insects, and then there are some that fall outside of the category of "pets" that have evolved relationships with Humans, such as Bees. What the individuals or groups within that domesticated species do only has bearing insofar as how it contributes to their experience of Emotional evolution. Those creatures that are nurtured as a whole tend to evolve faster in their emotional intelligence than those that are not. For example, dogs, cats, and horses have keen emotional worlds that range across a wide spectrum of emotions, while chickens tend to suffer from extreme terror and displacement due to the mass suffering. All non-sentient creatures tend to default to Instinctive methods for managing suffering and pain, and this is for the sake of protection against being seen as weak, vulnerable, etc. to other predators. Even the most intelligent of dogs, horses, cats, pigs, etc. will often refrain from reveal of pain or suffering for that reason. Therefore, working horses who are treated well may feel a great sense of purpose and bonding, while other working horses relegated to strict uses, such as carriage horses or race horses, suffer greatly, even if not in obvious ways. Care and feeding are not all that are necessary for the quality of life for the more emotionally-complex creatures. The more social the species, the more likely the suffering is reduced to strict work and use. Watching horses running freely in a field together versus watching a horse chained to a cart alongside Central Park is all that is necessary to know this, if one is practicing empathy. [ClaireC] "Beast of burden" comes to mind. [MEntity] We wish to be clear that the differentiation between suffering and pain is a matter of time. More emotionally-complex and intelligent creatures can suffer more easily than those that are not. However, the more a creature is exposed to pain, the more it can suffer, even as there is no sense of time. So while a horse or a dog can suffer even when between painful experiences, a chicken that is trapped in terror with injuries and a mutated body is in a constant state of pain, which is its own form of suffering. Animals used for performance, entertainment, circuses, and work often do suffer because most of these scenarios override everything natural to that creature. In cases where work is balanced with care, feeding, shelter, socializing, freedom, expression, and affection can there be the possibility of a "happy" creature. This is true of even Humans. [AnnaYusim] I have a question about St Therese of Lisieux (Born Marie-Françoise-Thérèse Martin) her book "story of a soul" is a spiritual classic. I have read that its not 100 percent her authentic words is that true?? Also i'd like to know her role, casting and soul age? [MEntity] As this fragment was "sainted," all accounts have come to be embellished for the support of that sainthood. It is true that not all of the words attributed to her are her own. This is not to say they are not in keeping with "the spirit" of her expression, just that embellishments are involved. This fragment is a Priest-Cast Artisan who was 7th Level Young at the time. [royce] marius here: Adyashanti speaks openly about his awakening experiences and i'm curious to know the relationship to this experience of " awakening" and Internal monads. for example if one has awakened in the terms adyashanti describes does one still go through internal monads. [MEntity] If the term is being used as a conclusive state, then it is a misnomer. This "awakening" could be said to be a description of how one completes an Internal Monad, as it is a conscious process of unlearning all that was learned, at least in terms of what was learned that is not serving you. That is what each Internal Monad is: an unlearning. To that extent, each Internal Monad is a process of "awakening," but each awakening is far from conclusive. There is no shortcut through the Internal Monads. Even the oldest and most conscious of fragments must go through them. To teach otherwise is to teach that one does not count as a PART of the whole that is ultimately YOU. [royce] i ask because i hear a lot of " i have no more fear of death" with these experiences at age 29 or something, which sounds like a completely of 6th IM...which seems odd to be there at 30..but that's beautiful to know we always have something to learn completion* [MEntity] Lacking fear of death when one is not confronting it has nothing to do with the completion of the 6th Internal Monad. It is easy not to fear something one cannot comprehend. But when one suddenly feels and knows the impending closure of mortality, it is a very different rite of passage. Even if one has had a close call with death in the middle of the life, it is not the same thing as the closing in on the final call. That close call with death can contribute to the ease of the 6th Internal Monad, but it is not the same as the 6th Internal Monad. The 6th Internal Monad is only valid when the onset of the cause of the exit is finalized. However, even that is not always the case. If one has not completed the 4th Internal Monad, for instance, and has a terminal illness, it will still be necessary to complete the 4th Internal Monad, no matter how distracting the onset of death is.
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