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DanielaS posted a topic in 2014 Michael Speaks"The Power of Desire" Michael Speaks Live Chat February 23, 2014 [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here, now. We can begin. [MEntity] We understand the request for discussion today to be that on the topic of DESIRE, as a part of the dynamic of what we term the Higher Moving Center. [MEntity] The Higher Moving Center is the part of you that is directly linked to the Energy that moves your life, your Essence, and Personality forward in its explorations and experiences. [MEntity] As many of our students know, we describe the universe as being a constant mix of Truth, Love, and Energy. These are Universal, in that this will be true in any Universe, on any planet, in any Sentient Species, etc. Beliefs and philosophies and religions and laws will not have any bearing on the validity of these factors that comprise any universe. [MEntity] In the most simplistic of ways to understand this, it could be said that your entire life, your personal universe, is entirely Built on Love, or exists because of Love, is interpreted through Truth, and Navigated or evolved by Energy. [MEntity] This may sound a bit "new agey," as some of our students may phrase it, but it would be valid, nonetheless, that these are not just broad concepts of a philosophical nature, but are tangible constructs within your own life. [MEntity] Another way to understand the Truth, Love, and Energy of your life and of you is to think of Energy as being paths, Truth being your interpretation of the various paths, and Love being the vehicle that carries you along those paths. [MEntity] In this discussion, then, we will focus on that media of Energy that are the paths of your life. [MEntity] The Higher Moving Center corresponds to the 2nd Chakra in the Chakra System, which is referred to as the Sacral or Sexual Chakra. [MEntity] This is the only Higher Center that is set "low" among the other Centers/Chakras. [MEntity] This is because Energy is the path that extends from Tao and back to Tao, through all of the Planes. All other forces depend upon this medium for their existence, including Truth and Love. [MEntity] The densest Plane of existence, the Physical Plane, is made of the same "stuff" that is the all-encompassing Tao that is the least-dense of all. [MEntity] We point out these broader concepts about Energy because these higher and broader concepts about how Energy works on the scale of a Universe is exactly how it works on the scale that is "you." [MEntity] In other words, even as "you" are the desnsest version of who and how you will ever be, you are still made up of everything about You that is of every degree of lesser density, as well. You are a Body, Personality, and Essence. [MEntity] These are in order of most dense to least. [MEntity] And so, in the same way that fragments who start off as the least-dense of who and how they are, they dive into density for the same reasons that they return from that density. [MEntity] The differences between existing in greater density versus being less-dense is that there is more against which to bump up against. [MEntity] Therefore, the Physical Plane, and being a Body, can be painful, since there is greater Friction in that density. [MEntity] On the other hand, the greatest and most-unique of blissful experiences can be had with that Friction is not painful. [MEntity] The Physical Plane is of the greatest density, and so has the greatest and most pervasive of potential for Friction, and Friction brings the greatest of pain and suffering and challenges, along with the greatest of bliss, joy, and euphoria. [MEntity] So on the most simplistic of levels, your navigation through any life is all about your maneuvering through, between, around, over, and into Pain and Pleasure. [MEntity] The difference between the two is just as simple: RESISTANCE. [MEntity] Consider the pain of a serrated knife across your skin versus the quick and fairly painless effect of the needle used for most injections. Both are breaking the skin, but one is going to be more painful than the other because of the Resistance. So in the most literal of terms, this Resistance is present as a force that generates Pain. [MEntity] The Energy of your life works in much the same way as this crude comparison. [MEntity] Some experiences are like a serrated knife, and some are the prick of a needle; some are harmful like the knife, and some are beneficial like a shot for your health. [MEntity] As you progress from your first life through to your last, this progression from pain/resistance to pleasure begins to become more and more pronounced and important. [MEntity] In those early lives, Pain was not a "bad" thing because it was a part of simply learning how to live, be alive, survive, and often pain was one of the ways through which that was accomplished. "I fell off of a cliff. That hurt. Do not do that again." [MEntity] In fact, the earlier incarnations become so dependent upon, and trusting of, pain as a form of navigation, that it takes one all the way through the final Levels of the Mature Soul Age to *really* get it that Pleasure can be trusted as much as Pain. [MEntity] It could be said that to be an Old Soul is greatly about reversing this dependency upon Pain, and learning to trust Pleasure. [MEntity] This is difficult when the world still imposes the imprinting that Pain is much more trustworthy, and that one's pain helps define him or her, and that if one has not suffered enough, then one is not deserving enough, and so on. [MEntity] So the Old Souls can fall prey to this cultural imprinting, and do all they can to validate the meaning and value of their existence by suffering along with everyone else. [MEntity] This is not to say that any suffering imposed upon an Old Soul is by choice. We are not speaking of those instances that are simply inherent risks of being Physical. Scathing of the bodies will always be a risk to any Physical incarnation, regardless of beliefs, conscious or subconscious. [MEntity] However, some of the most mundane of challenges that the Old Soul must endure can often be buried in melodramatic suffering that is completely unnecessary and absurdly out of proportion to the challenge. If an Old Soul must "work for a living" along with everyone else so as to participate in the society and culture he or she is in, it does not have to be experienced as suffering. This suffering is not only meant to help falsely prove his or her worth in some way, but to make an empty statement of entitlement that caters to some idea that the Old Soul must surely be above those mundane demands. [MEntity] So when it comes to the ENERGY of your life, our first suggestion posed to each of you would be that you ask yourselves how much Energy is used in the upholding of the unnecessary idea of SUFFERING as your primary defense of your value, position, and meaning in your life? How much Energy is used to undermine your mundane existence as if you should not be inconvenienced by the challenges of being Physical? [MEntity] Pain is information. It is not bad. It is not good. It is information. It is an indication of Resistance. Resistance is not bad, nor is it good. It is a necessity for navigation. However, suffering is often the distorted version of PLEASURE. [MEntity] Again, this is not to minimize or dismiss valid Suffering. We are speaking here of those many instances where a situation is compounded for the sake of a distorted form of Pleasure. [MEntity] The reason many do this is because they have not learned to trust True Pleasure. [MEntity] Suffering is the closest to Pleasure that fragment feels he or she can get. [MEntity] Through Suffering, there can come many "benefits." [MEntity] In most cases, that means the manipulation of others so that the one suffering can TAKE Pleasure, rather than having created it or given it or shared it. [MEntity] Consider the child who is screaming and crying because he did not get what he wants. [MEntity] For many, this method simply becomes refined when an adult. [MEntity] In all cases such as this, and even in the worst of these cases, it is merely that this fragment is seeking a path of return to order, to safety, to peace, resonance, harmony, beauty, just like every other form or matter and consciousness in the universe. [MEntity] And this method works. Until it does not. [MEntity] Once it does not, there is a turning point, or a point of no return, if you will. [MEntity] Eventually the universe no longer works very well for you in that way. Suffering begins to seem silly. It no longer serves to bring you even false pleasure. Taking Pleasure begins to feel ugly. And so the path toward creating and sharing Pleasure begins, and your Energy shifts. [MEntity] That turning point tends to come in one lifetime or another, and sometimes several times across different lifetimes, depending upon one's Frequency. [MEntity] Your access to all of that Energy that permeates all of the Universe, and was your path "here" and is your path "home," is no longer dependent upon navigation that is bound by the trust in pain or false pleasures, but begins to shift into a realization that true pleasure can be trusted, too. [MEntity] Many of you are only now learning what it even means to know "true pleasure." [MEntity] True Pleasure is simple. It is a sense of gratitude and appreciation for even the most mundane of your existence. It is a realization that even the most challenging elements of who and how you are things that simply make up a small part of the vast range of experiences one can have in a day, a year, a lifetime, or across lifetimes. [MEntity] The Positive Pole of the Higher Moving Center is BEAUTY. The Negative Pole is DESIRE. In the same way that no Chief Negative Feature can have a "good" Positive Pole, as that "positive" is simply relative to the spectrum of fear that is described by that Chief Feature, so can no Higher Center have a "bad" negative pole, as all Higher Centers are directly linked to those primary building blocks of the universe. . [MEntity] BEAUTY as the Positive Pole of the Higher Moving Center, then, is the recognition of patterns that are experienced as such harmony that they are truly beautiful. DESIRE, is that path along the way to that recognition. [MEntity] The reason DESIRE is "negative" is simply because, relatively speaking, it is apart from the Beauty, on its way to it, so is technically separate from it, but Desire is how you get there. [MEntity] And Desire, as a path toward Beauty, is everything you find pleasurable, joyful, playful, and are discovered through sharing, invitation, and impulses. not through forcing, taking, manipulating, or compulsions. [MEntity] Desire simply describes that part of you that is co-creating the life with Essence, and is hooked into that natural flow of consciousness, creativity, and choice that leads one all the way to Beauty. Desire is that part of you that knows that the path is not pre-paved with gold so that you know exactly what it is and where it goes, but that you leave that path paved with gold, so to speak, because it was yours, and that is what matters. [MEntity] Desire means listening to your quiet impulses, and to your gentle invitations, and to your sense of sharing. [MEntity] For the Old Soul who "should not have to work," as our crude example earlier, Desire can be the shift away from the practical necessity of work, and toward what matters even more from there. [MEntity] Let your few hours of the day that are not obligated to work be free to be full of Desire, creativity, choice, pleasure. [MEntity] Let your actions, choices, words, expression, motivations, intentions, etc. reflect your Desires, with "Desires" meaning that part of you that seeks the creation and sharing of Beauty. [MEntity] If Beauty is the "recognition of patterns," then Desire is the "conscious contribution to those patterns." [MEntity] The Old Soul who is on the path, who is moving beyong suffering and pain as a primary form of navigation, and is embracing Beauty, is the Old Soul who has realized he or she is a spectrum of experiences that is inclusive of both the long-trusted pain as information, and the newer relationship with pleasure that will now lead one home. [MEntity] Before we open the floor, we will say that for anyone who has found oneself feeling disconnected from Beauty, Desire, or feeling lost in how to move from suffering to pleasure, it can be as simple as a matter of a good laugh that helps clear your path again. [MEntity] Laughter is the biological response to ONENESS, to BEAUTY, to ENERGY. All Humor is merely the resolution of paradox, the unexpected. We know it can seem morbid, but much of even the worst of life is far more hilarious from the perspective of Essence than that of Personality. This is not to diminish the point of view of a Personality, but as the Old Soul Manifests Essence, much of what seemed to be such a struggle can take on a much greater levity. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS [ViP] Hi Michael, regarding this: [ViP] "Desire, as a path toward Beauty, is everything you find pleasurable, joyful, playful, and are discovered through sharing, invitation, and impulses. not through forcing, taking, manipulating, or compulsions." [ViP] If one is a food connoisseur, one may find pleasure and joy in experiencing different flavours of meat, and share that with others. However, the meat came from killing another lifeform (possibly sentient, as in the consumption of whale meat.) [ViP] Not necessarily as a necessity for survival, but the pleasure of it. [ViP] Is the experience of such pleasure (at the direct cost of pain being experienced by other pain-aware life, despite other options being available) a step on the road to finding Beauty? [MEntity] As one begins to understand the nature of True Pleasure, it cannot be defined in any way that is based in TAKING. If one's pleasure is the cause of true suffering and pain to another, it is not True Pleasure. The sharing in pleasures that are of the palate do not require harm, and this begins to be understood as the circle of consciousness expands. [ViP] is this true of all sentient life with the ability to choose (including dolphins, which must eat fish?) [MEntity] There are many who find pleasure that is directly or indirectly the cause of harm, suffering, and pain to another, and the distinction can be difficult to discern, but we suggest that the more directly one can choose and create away from that cause of harm, suffering, and pain, then it will likely begin to be more and more of an obstacle to true pleasure. [MEntity] There is a vast difference between the consuming of foods for survival and sustenance, regardless of what those foods are, and the causing of suffering and pain to multiple species for the taking of pleasure and convenience. [MEntity] That choice will always be up to the individual, but as consciousness expands, so does compassion, and as compassion expands, so does the capacity for pleasure, and as the capacity for pleasure expands, so does the desire for extending that to all existence. [MEntity] This is why many Old Souls "shut down" upon waking up, so to speak. That turning point when it is realized just how much unnecessary suffering is in the world, and imposed by others, and the subsequent helplessness of it all, can cause the late Mature to Old Soul to simply turn a blind eye and focus into a very small parameter of the life. [MEntity] That is natural. Eventually, the power of choice returns and it is used to serve one's sense of compassion and consciousness, and this begins to be beautiful. It matters that you have followed your Desires toward Beauty, not that others have not. [MEntity] Every individual who owns that path, helps generate the capacity for others to recognize their own. [brian] You mentioned that Old Souls can fall prey to the cultural imprinting of trusting Pain over Pleasure. What are some ways that the Older Soul can reduce or remove this imprinting if it is an obstacle? [MEntity] There are many moments when the choice for succumbing to suffering is chosen over the trust in pleasure. [MEntity] There is an addiction in place for many that must be broken by one's most powerful tool: choice. [MEntity] When we say this, we do not mean to say that your worries and concerns will fade, but that the choice away from suffering is the choice that is INCLUSIVE. This means it is okay to worry, and it is okay to be concerned, and it is okay to be stressed, but it is ALSO okay to be patient, to keep trying, to keep creating, to keep looking, to keep loving, to aim for your intentions, etc. [MEntity] What tends to happen when one allows room for both is that the division within is healed, and this wholeness helps bring more cohesive Energy, meaning more recognizable patterns, and thus, more Beauty, more pleasure. [MEntity] Worry all you wish to worry. Wring your hands in concern over the future. Be embarrassed about your past. Fret over your failures. But let yourself laugh, let yourself make a difference, let yourself move forward. [MEntity] These may sound useless platitudes, but we can assure you that any effort to include laughter, empowerment, choice, and movement, even in the worst of scenarios, is far from useless. [MEntity] If you feel that you have chosen Suffering at any point, then let that be included, as well. "Whoops, I chose to suffer again, but that's okay. I can still choose something else along with that. And I can choose again after that." [DandyLIONpuff] I have an inner struggle regarding creative DESIRE that causes a resistance towards action. I will be excited about many mediums ( story writing, music writing, performance) to an equal level that choosing one path seems painful. Am I correct in thinking Essence does not plan the exact medium of the creativity , but only the " vibration" of it? [DandyLIONpuff] if that vibration can be directed towards anything, does it even matter what outer medium is chosen? how does one choose between so many potentials? [MEntity] We remind you that pain, and even fear, is simply information. So if you feel that choosing one over the other is "painful," it is simply information. In cases such as this, that information in not about leaving media of expression behind for the sake of focusing on one, but more about the pain of NOT focusing on one. The distraction is the pain, not the potential. [MEntity] It is painful to be distracted from the focus on the one you have chosen. [MEntity] The pleasure will come when you allow yourself to focus on that choice. The other media will not disappear. [MEntity] They can even float as satellite options for support in that one focus. They need not be left behind, but simply brought into an order that is supportive of the primary focus. [MEntity] For instance, if sculpture becomes the focus, let it be the focus. Give everything to this. Let the existence of your creation snap into form through that medium. But have your paints ready. Have your pen ready. Have your other forms of creativity available. They are not gone, and they do not have to be distractions; they can be supportive. [MEntity] One does not have to cut off one's legs to give strength to his arms. [MEntity] And yes, in the same way that "you" are Essence, no matter what form you choose to take, so are your creations still your creations, no matter what form they take. [susan] We have used the so-called "7" types of centering: ie: The Emotional - Intellectual - Physical - Moving Instinctive - and, Higher Centers namely higher emotional and higher intellectual (we think those are the 7 types) to find pleasure - in rejoining with the 2/3 of c1e7 already cycled off - and, our essence twin - and, guides-guardians etc., is this the right/or wrong usage of learning and utilizing how to work with these 7 centres there is a lot of pleasure found in reconnecting with 'higher levels' of 'yourself' [MEntity] Though we are unclear as to what your question is, we can say that there is no "right" or "wrong" definition of pleasure, and no standard by which any can impose the experience of pleasure. Many gain great pleasure, true pleasure, from the intangible, and many gain true pleasure from the tangible. However, as one's consciousness expands, and one's compassion grows, the definitions of [MEntity] pleasure begin to recognize the responsibility that comes along with true pleasure. [MEntity] But what that pleasure is, is up to you. [MEntity] The pleasures of Manifesting Essence often border on ecstasy. [JamesS] when ever one, try to follow one Passion, Desire, run into Blocks as if "Denied and Pain Follows"Meaning Joy is no longer part of one, Path [MEntity] This questions would require some reformatting for us to understand it. [MEntity] We must conclude here for today, however. [MEntity] Good evening to each of you. [MEntity] Goodbye.
[Excerpt from Energy Report: January 2017] MEntity: Priest energy is about inspiring the masses. The Positive Pole is Compassion and the Negative Pole is Zeal. Compassion is the capacity to open one's eyes to suffering and use inspiration to transform and heal this. Zeal is the capacity to close one's eyes to suffering and use inspiration to distract from or compound that suffering.
April 3, 2005 Troy Tolley, Channel Michael Speaks – Open Floor [M Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. You may begin your queue for questions, though we are aware that “tibtyc” will go first. So you may begin, “tibtyc.” [Tibtyc] Greetings. I read in Messages from Michael: “There is only growth, often difficult, mostly painful because so few of you are willing to learn through joy.” How can we better learn through joy? And how can we learn to like joy, prefer it to pain? That is my question. [M Entity] To learn to enjoy… JOY does often require a sort of self-brainwashing, or more specifically, an override of the programming from which you currently run. Many of you are raised in cultures that “reward” struggle, ‘hard work’, suffering, victimization, etc. There is a great amount of teaching and imprinting handed down that equates all good things as being frivolous and even, ironically, BAD. Those who struggle through poverty or pain are more likely to be lifted to a kind of honor that has an unquestioned integrity and position. Those who are enjoying life then have the unsavory position of being guilted, or held responsible for taking more than their share from the common. Prosperity, which we define as having a sense of fulfillment throughout your Centers by your own standards, is daunting, particularly for older souls, because of the imprinting and distraction of guilt. [Tibtyc] Like, Beethoven suffered more than Mozart, thus was a better composer? [M Entity] It could be said (and has been said), yes. There are also fears within the Older Soul that having a certain amount of Prosperity will segregate you from what you have come to know as comfortable and familiar. In other words, if you find a healthy, loving relationship, then you will be segregated from those around you who do not. If you were to find an easy funnel of material security, it would then segregate you from those who have not. [Tibtyc] But it seems that for many of us learning through suffering is more FUN than joy. [M Entity] It could be described as “fun,” but that would be a misnomer. It is not genuinely “fun” for the Personality; it is painful. It could be said that the value gained on the other side of that pain, though, may be interpreted as “worth it.” There are many ways a fragment can begin to learn through Joy, Prosperity, Pleasure instead of Suffering, Loss, and Pain. We will describe two of the more popular ways now: The most direct means of overriding the programming from your culture is through using that programming “against itself,” so to speak. Instead of thinking of your Joy as being something to TAKE or GET from life, it is suggested that you RECEIVE or CREATE it. In other words: you may passively invite the joy, and genuinely acknowledge that joy when it is present. You may actively create that joy, as well, with the intentions of sharing it with at least one other person in some way, so as to divert guilt. The key is in the consciousness used to experience those moments of Joy, whether that Joy is passively attracted or actively created. [Tibtyc] Sounds like self-remembering. [M Entity] If you choose to passively allow it, then it may do you some good to create what has come to be called a Gratitude Journal. Without forcing yourself, write down at least 3 things a day that you have genuinely felt grateful for having experienced. If you were to do this for one week, you may find a great amount of Joy being more easily extracted through your experiences. If you were to do this for one month, it would be easy to transform yourself into having the ability to grasp joy from even the worst of scenarios. [Tibtyc] Grasp joy – but is that learning? [M Entity] If you are creating Joy, you can do so on a small scale, first: invite a friend to the movies, to coffee, for a walk. Take yourself to the movies, for a coffee, for a walk. In those instances, simply acknowledge that you are in some way allowing your Joy to emanate out and about, affecting the world in a positive way, rather than in a defensive way. In response to Tibtyc: We would certainly consider the act of grasping joy as having been a great learning experience. [faldec] not to mention it feels good [M Entity] Do you really believe that you must be pummeled in a classroom in order to learn math? Do you really believe you must be falling from a cliff as your only means to enjoy nature? Do you really believe you must be assaulted as your only means to learn about Love? [Tibtyc] A part of me does. [M Entity] We would easily state with great validity that many have learned to enjoy mathematics without an eraser to the head; that many have learned to enjoy nature without bodily impact; that many have learned to enjoy Love without bruises. The other method of learning to enjoy JOY is really only an extension of the first suggestion: CHOOSE IT. By this we mean that you ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. You can extract many dimensions from a single experience, and it can always be your choice to find/allow the JOY. This is why it is easier to remain with less Joy, because your design allows you to extract even the minutest elements of Joy from the worst of scenarios. That ability can be seductive. [Tibtyc] Like enjoying bad things? [M Entity] Many of you KNOW you can extract the Joy from the worst, so you settle for a certain level of existence, because you can romanticize it later. In response to Tibtyc: It is not that you enjoy “bad things,” but rather that you know you can extract the joy from it, if necessary. Most of the time, that extraction is more a means of healing, than a means of True Joy. True Joy is CHOSEN, CREATED, or ALLOWED. If you find you are extracting Joy from a scenario or experience, then you may do so, but CHOOSE AGAIN, CREATE AGAIN, or INVITE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. We are not saying, nor are we implying, that you can move through the physical plane without scathing, but we do say that pain, suffering, and loss are not the only forms of learning. They are CHOICES. This is not to say that you deliberately CHOOSE Pain, Loss, Suffering, but if you find yourself experiencing these states, each always presents an opportunity to choose again. If you find you are overwhelmed and feel that no choice can alleviate that feeling, then choose something especially loving for yourself, such as waiting, seeking help, calling a friend, watching/listening to something inspirational. Anything that will allow you to step back for a moment, gain some clarity, and then choose again. It is not merely poetic that we say, “You are here to learn how to choose, and to choose how to learn.” It is the truth. [Carrot Wax 1] In David Hawkins’ book, “Power vs. Force”, he described a scale of consciousness and energy manifestation from 1 to 1000. This goes from absolute Shame (20) to Unconditional Love (540) to Enlightenment (600) to Infinite Soul (1000). How accurate is this and how does this relate to manifestation, soul age, and conscious connection to essence? [M Entity] This system of measurement is different from our system in the same way that Astrology or Tarot is different from our system. They cannot be accurately correlated, even if there are some parallels. It appears to be a valid system of measurement, though subjective and local (not Universal). It could not be used outside of your species, for instance. It would have difficulty translating into our system as we could easily see a Final Level Old Soul (technically speaking) still experiencing Shame, and we do not subscribe to the general concept of “Enlightenment.” [Tibtyc] What's wrong with it? [M Entity] Nothing. We did not say there was anything wrong with it. The general concept of Enlightenment is seen as a conclusive state. We have yet to see a conclusion to the experience of growth; therefore, “Enlightenment” is subjective and is more accurately understood contextually and as a transition, perhaps. [Carrot Wax 1] I guess I interpret Enlightenment from that scale as “Non-dualism.” [M Entity] This is why we do not subscribe to the notion, as it is quite subjective and contextual, though valid in describing a particular transition or realization, yes. [faldec] What is the significance, if any, of the bodies excavated at site 117 in Jebel Sahaba in Upper Egypt? It seems an unusual burial site for Egyptians because of the fact the bodies appeared to be buried with wounds and the weapons still in the bodies. [M Entity] The significance will be relative and subject to interpretation, but the reality of a prehistoric “holocaust” would be valid. This appears to be the result of a growing division among local communities over the use of foods and the level of responsibility required of each other to provide for all vs. the hoarding for the stronger, more privileged. Surprisingly, it was those who stood for the equality of all who were able to slaughter those who would otherwise leave those less-able without foods. [faldec] like the people vs. the aristocracy? [M Entity] The social tiers were not as defined as “aristocracy vs. the people,” but more defined as the “Strong and Useful” vs. the “Weak and Useless.” The concept of caring for those weaker than the independent was not looked upon as practical. [H2OSprtlvr] Can a fragment, in one given lifetime, gain a soul age level and if a fragment feels they have mastered or accomplished one goal (say like growth) could they work on another goal in one given lifetime? Like change their Overleaves perhaps? [M Entity] Fragments do change soul ages and levels within a single lifetime, though it is rare. It is not as uncommon among Older Souls, however. In many cases those transitional lifetimes are experienced, literally, as two lifetimes in one incarnation. When a Soul Age or Soul Level shifts within a lifetime, it is rare that the Overleaves will change, but in the rare instance that one would choose to do so, it would take a minimum of 7 years for the new design to be implemented. [H2OSprtlvr] like shifting from a goal of growth to a goal of acceptance? [M Entity] For a fragment to change Overleaves in any situation, a great trauma is usually the only way in which to do so. [faldec] like a coma? M Entity: The body must literally close down and change its structure on levels on and below the levels known as DNA. A coma is a common means of shifting Overleaves and shifting Essences. [H2OSprtlvr] you can’t just make a CHOICE to change your goal or Overleaves? [Tibtyc] Essences? Like a walk.in? [M Entity] Overleaves are biological. They can no more easily be replaced by a simple choice than can a limb or eye color. A fragment may superimpose or USE a different Overleaf as a means to accommodate a short term agenda, but that is no more a change in Overleaves than the dying of your hair or false contact lenses. Yes, tibtyc, in response to your question: as in Walk-ins. It could be said that one is then limited if one cannot simply CHOOSE to change his Overleaves, but that is simply not the case. You already chose your Overleaves in the same way that you chose your body and genetic code. You chose your Overleaves in the same way that you chose Earth. Choices exist on many levels, extending between the levels of Essence and Personality. [H2OSprtlvr] well…that’s where validation of my Overleaves is tricky… I see myself in one goal for awhile and then it appears I have another goal for awhile and so it leaves me confused. [M Entity] We remind you that your GOAL is not something that describes your character, but rather as to where your character is drawn and to where it funnels its experiences, ultimately. In many instances, it is actually describing what your character IS NOT; hence its being a GOAL. [H2OSprtlvr] I get that [H2OSprtlvr] that makes it clearer for me… thank you [M Entity] We can help you determine the validity of your Goal. There are definitive factors that would help with this. It may also be of interest to you that each individual has 3 facets of Overleaves, many times not matching one another. Beyond the True Overleaves, which are on record in the Akashic Plane, there are also those Overleaves of which you EXPECT of yourself, as well as those describing what others expect OF you. This is where many channeling discrepancies come into play if the channel is not using our access to the Akashic Records. [slacnj] My question if you can answer it with a short answer is: When what you want involves another person making a choice how can you learn to either manifest that together or allow what you want into your life some other way? [M Entity] The first choice to make above all choices in this instance is to choose to trust, honor, and allow the choice of another, even if it does not comply with your own. If you are in a position, for instance, in which a boss’s choice will or won’t create a path for your career, you still have a choice. You can choose to quit, find another route within the company; requesting specific parameters in which your efforts can be unquestionably worthy of progress, etc. If you cannot move beyond a blockage created by another person, you can only make choices around, through, under, beyond that point in the same way that you would navigate any obstacle. We CAN say, however, that learning to shift your OWN energy many times resonates out of another person the very thing you wish to have as support for your choices. There are many versions of one person in your space. You are not limited to experiencing only the personality that chooses to block you, or whose choices block you. There are multitudes of versions of any fragment and a shift in your own perspective, energy, and actions can literally shift the energetic identity of another individual to a version more willing to help. They are not replaced, but rather the potential within that person to support your choice then has the option of manifesting. Most of your obstacles seen as other people are only obstacles as reflective of obstacles within. Clear the internal philosophies supporting those obstacles and you naturally clear the external reflection of those obstacles. [H2OSprtlvr] in other words… changing your attitude would change the outcome sometimes? [M Entity] Sometimes one of the fastest and easiest ways to create harmony between yourself and another is to seek out what the other fragment NEEDS. Of course, we are speaking only in terms of obstacles, not in terms of hurtful interferences to your own choices. You may interpret people around you in terms of how they express their Sub-Personalities. A single fragment can be a “different” person to several different people’s experiences. An internal shift of your own can invite an internal shift in another. In other words, the Sub-Personality in you that deals with Obstacles might gently invite the Sub-Personality in who takes care of creating Harmony. It could be said beyond all of this that there are at least 12 different approaches to changing a dynamic with another person so that your choices are in harmony. Studying the definitions of the 12 Support Positions would give you the methods in which you could improve your ability to generate harmony as you relate to others who may be obstacles. Good Night to all of you. We will conclude here.
Ask Michael in Live Session Open Floor July 6, 2014 Channel: Troy Tolley [Hani] There are claims made of multiple Essences utilizing the same body by switching in and out over the lifetime. Is this possible? I am not talking about walk in and walk out [MEntity] Only one Essence can ever "inhabit" a body. The body cannot act as a revolving door for Essences. Though one body can have been host to 2 or more Essences across a lifetime, it is never at once, and rarely more than 2. The shift between one Essence to another is often traumatic, or at least done through the exploitation of a trauma, and takes up to 7 years for full transition. It is not a process that is taken lightly. [Hani] I understand, thank you [MEntity] However, the Personality and/or Essence of a body can act as a conduit for as many Essences as it wishes. This is how the Transcendental Soul Manifests. It is only one Essence representing the whole of the Entity, but all of the fragments of that Entity have access to all that is that body's experiences and life. This is, also, how Guides work, and Essence Twins when one is not extant. When there is a Personality who senses fragmentation, it is usually relative to the Personality, not variations of Essences. That Personality is likely compartmentalized, divided, fractured, and has evolved into facets that either lose contact with one another, or revolve as distinct facets around a central core trait. Every Personality has sub-personalities, but for some, these can become distinct facets that have no communication with one another, such as is the case with Dissociative Identity Disorder, but if there is communication, the range can be from "normal" variations on Personality to accommodate various contexts of life, to extreme facets that, while still communicating, identify as separate. [Kurtis] Hi Michael, much like in past exchanges I'd like an elaboration of both Perseverance Mode and Power Mode that can cater to all soul ages, and much like before, an explanation of the - and +Poles as well. [MEntity] PERSEVERANCE MODE is the Ordinal, Action Mode. The Mode describes how one fulfills the Goal, and how one Relates. In its Positive Pole, there is Persistence, and in its Negative Pole, there is Unchanging. PERSISTENCE is the capacity to navigate around, over, and through obstacles, whereas UNCHANGING is the capacity to repeatedly confront obstacles. In Persistence, there is a sense of one's position relative to an obstacle or direction, and these are known to be dynamic. There is awareness that both the obstacle/direction and the one acting can change, evolve, alter, etc. In Unchanging, this dynamic is lost. It is no longer a dance, but a matter of pushing forward or into, and knocking down or clearing a path that has been determined. There is only a sense of direction or movement if that obstacle is overcome. Consider the difference between one amputee who has lost her legs and finds a way to work with her obstacles, while another determines that if those legs are gone, then everything on the other side of that is lost, unless those legs are returned. One is Persistence. One is Unchanging. When one is Unchanging, it is the Positive Pole of the partner Mode, Aggression, that will help to move one back into Persistence. The Positive Pole of Aggression is Dynamism. In other words, there is no division between self and obstacle/direction. They are parts of an equation that describe the paths of life. Both contribute to the path. Unchanging is when one has determined that the obstacle is in the way of the path. Power is Presence, then. When one owns one's presence, or power, there is Authority. This is simply the management of expression in a way that is responsible, considered, and aware of its impact on others. When one depends on others as their source of presence, or power, then it falls into Oppression. This is true on the scale of oppression that one sees regarding minorities or non-sentient creatures, as well as in terms of the self. To Oppress the self is to defer power and presence to the permission one seeks or takes from others. Put another way: To oppress the self is to defer power and presence to the permission for expression one seeks or takes from others. Or, to oppress others is to draw power and presence from restricting expression of others. For one to move out of the Negative Pole of Power, one needs to slide to the Positive Pole of Caution, Deliberation. When this is regarding self-oppression, it is when one chooses a specific way or context of expressing oneself, rather than not expressing oneself at all. When this is regarding oppression of others, it is the ownership of how one has interpreted the expression or presences of others as deliberately affecting oneself, when, in fact, it has not. Deliberation is merely the slowing down of thought so as to be careful in how one experiences or delivers expression. Though we can continue to elaborate upon these, we must consider the queue. [Maureen] Michael, I can see how Personal Truths line up: HONESTY: Truth, SINCERITY: Love, INTEGRITY: Energy, but I’d like your take on how Global Truths and Universal Truths line up with Truth, Love and Energy. The one that I’m having the most trouble reconciling is the Global Truth of NATIONAL that lines up with Love. I’m not sure how that fits as many of us Older Souls don’t see “Love” of a country or being nationalistic as fitting in with our larger view of “the world”. If there is time, would you provide a short explanation for the Global Truths and the Universal Truths so we can see how they align with Truth, Love and Energy? If not, just an explanation of the Global Truth, NATIONAL: Love, would be appreciated. [MEntity] Nationalism/Nationalistic is not the same thing as Love for one's country. The former tends to be built upon notions of superiority, whereas the latter is built upon gratitude, nostalgia, and appreciation. When one tends to one's home, it can be from notions of superiority to one's neighbors, or it can be from the sense of importance to nurture one's space. This is true on the National scale, as well. The people of a Nation are benefited when there is Love of those peoples. This can be a dividing line in Politics, for example. Self-preservation based in superiority, or nurturing on a grand scale for as many as possible. However, keep in mind that our response for corresponding Truth, Love, and Energy to the variations of truth within each category of truth, is only for convenience, not from literal representation. It may be more accurate to see these as Axes, not as specific terms. So, for example, Honesty is Expressive, Personal Truth. Sincerity is Inspirational, Personal Truth. Integrity is Active, Personal Truth. Remember that Truths are relative here. Community is Expressive Global Truths, or how a Community expresses, represents itself within the spectrum of how other communities do so. National is Inspirational Global Truth, or how a people of a nation feel about their place on the planet among other nations. Planetary is Active Global Truths, or how a planet of people behaves in relation to other planets/off-planet life. In Universal Terms, every single fragment will have a Body, Mind, and Soul, and these are conduits for expression, inspiration, and action, and this is true no matter where, when, or who you would experience. We think we have expanded on these enough for now, but we can further clarify these in further discussions. [JanaK] I have a follow up question regarding the talk on the topic of Reincarnation. It’s about the “stuck” Personalities. There have been a couple of “teasers” throw out, which I would like more clarification on. I will state how I understood it, so please correct anything that I have misunderstood. So if I understand it correctly, what determines whether the Personality is stuck, is whether they do or don’t complete the Review and reunite with Essence. If they don’t complete it and don’t unite with Essence, then they keep literally reincarnating, living through variations on the same lifetime (presumably this happens in separate parallels). They keep doing this, until they evolve enough to be able to reunite with Essence, in which they sometimes need to be helped. You have also said, that in this way they all do get to eventually complete all 7 IMs. Yet, I also thought one can complete Review and reunite with Essence without completing all 7 IMs? Are all personalities stuck until they have lived in some way (parallel or looping) till 7th IM in positive? [MEntity] Here is the distinction we may have not clarified in our initial delivery: Those Personalities that fulfill an Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, regardless of whether the First, the Second, Third, etc. will likely NOT loop, but go through Review and gather on the Astral, being "collected" in the final Level of that Soul Age. Those Personalities that fall into a loop are those that do not complete an Internal Monad in the Positive Pole, or resign to the Negative Pole of an Internal Monad. That Personality will "loop" until it has completed the Internal Monad relative to what it had been trying to complete, and then it can move into Review. However, it is quite common that these Personalities will just continue to completion of all 7 Internal Monads, however many loops that would take. It Reviews, but mostly for the sake of updating Essence. The Personality is not quite capable of full comprehension until there is at least one Personality that has completed all 7 Internal Monads. Then the gathering of all Personalities from the Soul Age compile experiences for Review that launches the Essence into the next Soul Age. Because of the uniting of experiences and processes, then all Personalities that are a part of that benefit and, technically, each completes all 7 Internal Monads relative to their own lives. Those Personalities in a loop will have done so for themselves by this time, and will join the evolution into the next Soul Age, or will remain and continue in their loops, until either the completion of the 7th Internal Monad on their own, or help comes. Each of you will likely have several "loops" that will need to be collected from across your Soul Ages when you get to your 7th Level of the Old Soul Age. [Bobby] Since it's my understanding that after an Entity cycles off that Casting plays a larger part than the Role does, would you briefly describe generally what those of you that are Sage-cast "do"? [MEntity] It is more nuanced than only Casting, with your Casting within the Entity being a contributing factor. In the same way that all Sages will not manifest the same way while incarnating, neither will all Sage-Cast in the Entity. But there will be a common theme of Cardinal Expression. So, regardless of the nuances, those who are Sage-Cast will be those who spread information, communicate, bring levity, offer simple and profound insight. One of the nuances to consider is that the Role then tends to become the function that Casting had while incarnating. So a Sage-Cast Warrior while incarnating might be understood as a Warrior-Cast Sage when cycled off in the Entity. The other nuance would be the Cadence Group and Greater Cadence, of course, as well as Position. But, in general, the Sage-Cast will help tell the stories of the Entity. [ClaireC] Michael, could you tell us where horses are in the hierarchy of the animal kingdom and how their Animal-Companion bond with humans is affected by the fact that they are often "working" animals? Is it any different than trained, performing dogs or circus animals? [MEntity] Though there is hierarchy of intelligence among most domestic or domesticated animals, there is very little difference emotionally. There are differences, but little. The range of intelligence only determines how that species can communicate its emotions, and how it organizes its experiences. This goes for chickens, cows, pigs, horses, birds, dogs, cats, etc. We are going to define "domesticated" as any of those species in captivity with which one can develop a relationship. There are many "pets" that fall outside of that, such as many reptiles or insects, and then there are some that fall outside of the category of "pets" that have evolved relationships with Humans, such as Bees. What the individuals or groups within that domesticated species do only has bearing insofar as how it contributes to their experience of Emotional evolution. Those creatures that are nurtured as a whole tend to evolve faster in their emotional intelligence than those that are not. For example, dogs, cats, and horses have keen emotional worlds that range across a wide spectrum of emotions, while chickens tend to suffer from extreme terror and displacement due to the mass suffering. All non-sentient creatures tend to default to Instinctive methods for managing suffering and pain, and this is for the sake of protection against being seen as weak, vulnerable, etc. to other predators. Even the most intelligent of dogs, horses, cats, pigs, etc. will often refrain from reveal of pain or suffering for that reason. Therefore, working horses who are treated well may feel a great sense of purpose and bonding, while other working horses relegated to strict uses, such as carriage horses or race horses, suffer greatly, even if not in obvious ways. Care and feeding are not all that are necessary for the quality of life for the more emotionally-complex creatures. The more social the species, the more likely the suffering is reduced to strict work and use. Watching horses running freely in a field together versus watching a horse chained to a cart alongside Central Park is all that is necessary to know this, if one is practicing empathy. [ClaireC] "Beast of burden" comes to mind. [MEntity] We wish to be clear that the differentiation between suffering and pain is a matter of time. More emotionally-complex and intelligent creatures can suffer more easily than those that are not. However, the more a creature is exposed to pain, the more it can suffer, even as there is no sense of time. So while a horse or a dog can suffer even when between painful experiences, a chicken that is trapped in terror with injuries and a mutated body is in a constant state of pain, which is its own form of suffering. Animals used for performance, entertainment, circuses, and work often do suffer because most of these scenarios override everything natural to that creature. In cases where work is balanced with care, feeding, shelter, socializing, freedom, expression, and affection can there be the possibility of a "happy" creature. This is true of even Humans. [AnnaYusim] I have a question about St Therese of Lisieux (Born Marie-Françoise-Thérèse Martin) her book "story of a soul" is a spiritual classic. I have read that its not 100 percent her authentic words is that true?? Also i'd like to know her role, casting and soul age? [MEntity] As this fragment was "sainted," all accounts have come to be embellished for the support of that sainthood. It is true that not all of the words attributed to her are her own. This is not to say they are not in keeping with "the spirit" of her expression, just that embellishments are involved. This fragment is a Priest-Cast Artisan who was 7th Level Young at the time. [royce] marius here: Adyashanti speaks openly about his awakening experiences and i'm curious to know the relationship to this experience of " awakening" and Internal monads. for example if one has awakened in the terms adyashanti describes does one still go through internal monads. [MEntity] If the term is being used as a conclusive state, then it is a misnomer. This "awakening" could be said to be a description of how one completes an Internal Monad, as it is a conscious process of unlearning all that was learned, at least in terms of what was learned that is not serving you. That is what each Internal Monad is: an unlearning. To that extent, each Internal Monad is a process of "awakening," but each awakening is far from conclusive. There is no shortcut through the Internal Monads. Even the oldest and most conscious of fragments must go through them. To teach otherwise is to teach that one does not count as a PART of the whole that is ultimately YOU. [royce] i ask because i hear a lot of " i have no more fear of death" with these experiences at age 29 or something, which sounds like a completely of 6th IM...which seems odd to be there at 30..but that's beautiful to know we always have something to learn completion* [MEntity] Lacking fear of death when one is not confronting it has nothing to do with the completion of the 6th Internal Monad. It is easy not to fear something one cannot comprehend. But when one suddenly feels and knows the impending closure of mortality, it is a very different rite of passage. Even if one has had a close call with death in the middle of the life, it is not the same thing as the closing in on the final call. That close call with death can contribute to the ease of the 6th Internal Monad, but it is not the same as the 6th Internal Monad. The 6th Internal Monad is only valid when the onset of the cause of the exit is finalized. However, even that is not always the case. If one has not completed the 4th Internal Monad, for instance, and has a terminal illness, it will still be necessary to complete the 4th Internal Monad, no matter how distracting the onset of death is.