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DanielaS posted a topic in 2014 Michael Speaks"The Power of Desire" Michael Speaks Live Chat February 23, 2014 [MEntity] Hello to everyone. We are here, now. We can begin. [MEntity] We understand the request for discussion today to be that on the topic of DESIRE, as a part of the dynamic of what we term the Higher Moving Center. [MEntity] The Higher Moving Center is the part of you that is directly linked to the Energy that moves your life, your Essence, and Personality forward in its explorations and experiences. [MEntity] As many of our students know, we describe the universe as being a constant mix of Truth, Love, and Energy. These are Universal, in that this will be true in any Universe, on any planet, in any Sentient Species, etc. Beliefs and philosophies and religions and laws will not have any bearing on the validity of these factors that comprise any universe. [MEntity] In the most simplistic of ways to understand this, it could be said that your entire life, your personal universe, is entirely Built on Love, or exists because of Love, is interpreted through Truth, and Navigated or evolved by Energy. [MEntity] This may sound a bit "new agey," as some of our students may phrase it, but it would be valid, nonetheless, that these are not just broad concepts of a philosophical nature, but are tangible constructs within your own life. [MEntity] Another way to understand the Truth, Love, and Energy of your life and of you is to think of Energy as being paths, Truth being your interpretation of the various paths, and Love being the vehicle that carries you along those paths. [MEntity] In this discussion, then, we will focus on that media of Energy that are the paths of your life. [MEntity] The Higher Moving Center corresponds to the 2nd Chakra in the Chakra System, which is referred to as the Sacral or Sexual Chakra. [MEntity] This is the only Higher Center that is set "low" among the other Centers/Chakras. [MEntity] This is because Energy is the path that extends from Tao and back to Tao, through all of the Planes. All other forces depend upon this medium for their existence, including Truth and Love. [MEntity] The densest Plane of existence, the Physical Plane, is made of the same "stuff" that is the all-encompassing Tao that is the least-dense of all. [MEntity] We point out these broader concepts about Energy because these higher and broader concepts about how Energy works on the scale of a Universe is exactly how it works on the scale that is "you." [MEntity] In other words, even as "you" are the desnsest version of who and how you will ever be, you are still made up of everything about You that is of every degree of lesser density, as well. You are a Body, Personality, and Essence. [MEntity] These are in order of most dense to least. [MEntity] And so, in the same way that fragments who start off as the least-dense of who and how they are, they dive into density for the same reasons that they return from that density. [MEntity] The differences between existing in greater density versus being less-dense is that there is more against which to bump up against. [MEntity] Therefore, the Physical Plane, and being a Body, can be painful, since there is greater Friction in that density. [MEntity] On the other hand, the greatest and most-unique of blissful experiences can be had with that Friction is not painful. [MEntity] The Physical Plane is of the greatest density, and so has the greatest and most pervasive of potential for Friction, and Friction brings the greatest of pain and suffering and challenges, along with the greatest of bliss, joy, and euphoria. [MEntity] So on the most simplistic of levels, your navigation through any life is all about your maneuvering through, between, around, over, and into Pain and Pleasure. [MEntity] The difference between the two is just as simple: RESISTANCE. [MEntity] Consider the pain of a serrated knife across your skin versus the quick and fairly painless effect of the needle used for most injections. Both are breaking the skin, but one is going to be more painful than the other because of the Resistance. So in the most literal of terms, this Resistance is present as a force that generates Pain. [MEntity] The Energy of your life works in much the same way as this crude comparison. [MEntity] Some experiences are like a serrated knife, and some are the prick of a needle; some are harmful like the knife, and some are beneficial like a shot for your health. [MEntity] As you progress from your first life through to your last, this progression from pain/resistance to pleasure begins to become more and more pronounced and important. [MEntity] In those early lives, Pain was not a "bad" thing because it was a part of simply learning how to live, be alive, survive, and often pain was one of the ways through which that was accomplished. "I fell off of a cliff. That hurt. Do not do that again." [MEntity] In fact, the earlier incarnations become so dependent upon, and trusting of, pain as a form of navigation, that it takes one all the way through the final Levels of the Mature Soul Age to *really* get it that Pleasure can be trusted as much as Pain. [MEntity] It could be said that to be an Old Soul is greatly about reversing this dependency upon Pain, and learning to trust Pleasure. [MEntity] This is difficult when the world still imposes the imprinting that Pain is much more trustworthy, and that one's pain helps define him or her, and that if one has not suffered enough, then one is not deserving enough, and so on. [MEntity] So the Old Souls can fall prey to this cultural imprinting, and do all they can to validate the meaning and value of their existence by suffering along with everyone else. [MEntity] This is not to say that any suffering imposed upon an Old Soul is by choice. We are not speaking of those instances that are simply inherent risks of being Physical. Scathing of the bodies will always be a risk to any Physical incarnation, regardless of beliefs, conscious or subconscious. [MEntity] However, some of the most mundane of challenges that the Old Soul must endure can often be buried in melodramatic suffering that is completely unnecessary and absurdly out of proportion to the challenge. If an Old Soul must "work for a living" along with everyone else so as to participate in the society and culture he or she is in, it does not have to be experienced as suffering. This suffering is not only meant to help falsely prove his or her worth in some way, but to make an empty statement of entitlement that caters to some idea that the Old Soul must surely be above those mundane demands. [MEntity] So when it comes to the ENERGY of your life, our first suggestion posed to each of you would be that you ask yourselves how much Energy is used in the upholding of the unnecessary idea of SUFFERING as your primary defense of your value, position, and meaning in your life? How much Energy is used to undermine your mundane existence as if you should not be inconvenienced by the challenges of being Physical? [MEntity] Pain is information. It is not bad. It is not good. It is information. It is an indication of Resistance. Resistance is not bad, nor is it good. It is a necessity for navigation. However, suffering is often the distorted version of PLEASURE. [MEntity] Again, this is not to minimize or dismiss valid Suffering. We are speaking here of those many instances where a situation is compounded for the sake of a distorted form of Pleasure. [MEntity] The reason many do this is because they have not learned to trust True Pleasure. [MEntity] Suffering is the closest to Pleasure that fragment feels he or she can get. [MEntity] Through Suffering, there can come many "benefits." [MEntity] In most cases, that means the manipulation of others so that the one suffering can TAKE Pleasure, rather than having created it or given it or shared it. [MEntity] Consider the child who is screaming and crying because he did not get what he wants. [MEntity] For many, this method simply becomes refined when an adult. [MEntity] In all cases such as this, and even in the worst of these cases, it is merely that this fragment is seeking a path of return to order, to safety, to peace, resonance, harmony, beauty, just like every other form or matter and consciousness in the universe. [MEntity] And this method works. Until it does not. [MEntity] Once it does not, there is a turning point, or a point of no return, if you will. [MEntity] Eventually the universe no longer works very well for you in that way. Suffering begins to seem silly. It no longer serves to bring you even false pleasure. Taking Pleasure begins to feel ugly. And so the path toward creating and sharing Pleasure begins, and your Energy shifts. [MEntity] That turning point tends to come in one lifetime or another, and sometimes several times across different lifetimes, depending upon one's Frequency. [MEntity] Your access to all of that Energy that permeates all of the Universe, and was your path "here" and is your path "home," is no longer dependent upon navigation that is bound by the trust in pain or false pleasures, but begins to shift into a realization that true pleasure can be trusted, too. [MEntity] Many of you are only now learning what it even means to know "true pleasure." [MEntity] True Pleasure is simple. It is a sense of gratitude and appreciation for even the most mundane of your existence. It is a realization that even the most challenging elements of who and how you are things that simply make up a small part of the vast range of experiences one can have in a day, a year, a lifetime, or across lifetimes. [MEntity] The Positive Pole of the Higher Moving Center is BEAUTY. The Negative Pole is DESIRE. In the same way that no Chief Negative Feature can have a "good" Positive Pole, as that "positive" is simply relative to the spectrum of fear that is described by that Chief Feature, so can no Higher Center have a "bad" negative pole, as all Higher Centers are directly linked to those primary building blocks of the universe. . [MEntity] BEAUTY as the Positive Pole of the Higher Moving Center, then, is the recognition of patterns that are experienced as such harmony that they are truly beautiful. DESIRE, is that path along the way to that recognition. [MEntity] The reason DESIRE is "negative" is simply because, relatively speaking, it is apart from the Beauty, on its way to it, so is technically separate from it, but Desire is how you get there. [MEntity] And Desire, as a path toward Beauty, is everything you find pleasurable, joyful, playful, and are discovered through sharing, invitation, and impulses. not through forcing, taking, manipulating, or compulsions. [MEntity] Desire simply describes that part of you that is co-creating the life with Essence, and is hooked into that natural flow of consciousness, creativity, and choice that leads one all the way to Beauty. Desire is that part of you that knows that the path is not pre-paved with gold so that you know exactly what it is and where it goes, but that you leave that path paved with gold, so to speak, because it was yours, and that is what matters. [MEntity] Desire means listening to your quiet impulses, and to your gentle invitations, and to your sense of sharing. [MEntity] For the Old Soul who "should not have to work," as our crude example earlier, Desire can be the shift away from the practical necessity of work, and toward what matters even more from there. [MEntity] Let your few hours of the day that are not obligated to work be free to be full of Desire, creativity, choice, pleasure. [MEntity] Let your actions, choices, words, expression, motivations, intentions, etc. reflect your Desires, with "Desires" meaning that part of you that seeks the creation and sharing of Beauty. [MEntity] If Beauty is the "recognition of patterns," then Desire is the "conscious contribution to those patterns." [MEntity] The Old Soul who is on the path, who is moving beyong suffering and pain as a primary form of navigation, and is embracing Beauty, is the Old Soul who has realized he or she is a spectrum of experiences that is inclusive of both the long-trusted pain as information, and the newer relationship with pleasure that will now lead one home. [MEntity] Before we open the floor, we will say that for anyone who has found oneself feeling disconnected from Beauty, Desire, or feeling lost in how to move from suffering to pleasure, it can be as simple as a matter of a good laugh that helps clear your path again. [MEntity] Laughter is the biological response to ONENESS, to BEAUTY, to ENERGY. All Humor is merely the resolution of paradox, the unexpected. We know it can seem morbid, but much of even the worst of life is far more hilarious from the perspective of Essence than that of Personality. This is not to diminish the point of view of a Personality, but as the Old Soul Manifests Essence, much of what seemed to be such a struggle can take on a much greater levity. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS [ViP] Hi Michael, regarding this: [ViP] "Desire, as a path toward Beauty, is everything you find pleasurable, joyful, playful, and are discovered through sharing, invitation, and impulses. not through forcing, taking, manipulating, or compulsions." [ViP] If one is a food connoisseur, one may find pleasure and joy in experiencing different flavours of meat, and share that with others. However, the meat came from killing another lifeform (possibly sentient, as in the consumption of whale meat.) [ViP] Not necessarily as a necessity for survival, but the pleasure of it. [ViP] Is the experience of such pleasure (at the direct cost of pain being experienced by other pain-aware life, despite other options being available) a step on the road to finding Beauty? [MEntity] As one begins to understand the nature of True Pleasure, it cannot be defined in any way that is based in TAKING. If one's pleasure is the cause of true suffering and pain to another, it is not True Pleasure. The sharing in pleasures that are of the palate do not require harm, and this begins to be understood as the circle of consciousness expands. [ViP] is this true of all sentient life with the ability to choose (including dolphins, which must eat fish?) [MEntity] There are many who find pleasure that is directly or indirectly the cause of harm, suffering, and pain to another, and the distinction can be difficult to discern, but we suggest that the more directly one can choose and create away from that cause of harm, suffering, and pain, then it will likely begin to be more and more of an obstacle to true pleasure. [MEntity] There is a vast difference between the consuming of foods for survival and sustenance, regardless of what those foods are, and the causing of suffering and pain to multiple species for the taking of pleasure and convenience. [MEntity] That choice will always be up to the individual, but as consciousness expands, so does compassion, and as compassion expands, so does the capacity for pleasure, and as the capacity for pleasure expands, so does the desire for extending that to all existence. [MEntity] This is why many Old Souls "shut down" upon waking up, so to speak. That turning point when it is realized just how much unnecessary suffering is in the world, and imposed by others, and the subsequent helplessness of it all, can cause the late Mature to Old Soul to simply turn a blind eye and focus into a very small parameter of the life. [MEntity] That is natural. Eventually, the power of choice returns and it is used to serve one's sense of compassion and consciousness, and this begins to be beautiful. It matters that you have followed your Desires toward Beauty, not that others have not. [MEntity] Every individual who owns that path, helps generate the capacity for others to recognize their own. [brian] You mentioned that Old Souls can fall prey to the cultural imprinting of trusting Pain over Pleasure. What are some ways that the Older Soul can reduce or remove this imprinting if it is an obstacle? [MEntity] There are many moments when the choice for succumbing to suffering is chosen over the trust in pleasure. [MEntity] There is an addiction in place for many that must be broken by one's most powerful tool: choice. [MEntity] When we say this, we do not mean to say that your worries and concerns will fade, but that the choice away from suffering is the choice that is INCLUSIVE. This means it is okay to worry, and it is okay to be concerned, and it is okay to be stressed, but it is ALSO okay to be patient, to keep trying, to keep creating, to keep looking, to keep loving, to aim for your intentions, etc. [MEntity] What tends to happen when one allows room for both is that the division within is healed, and this wholeness helps bring more cohesive Energy, meaning more recognizable patterns, and thus, more Beauty, more pleasure. [MEntity] Worry all you wish to worry. Wring your hands in concern over the future. Be embarrassed about your past. Fret over your failures. But let yourself laugh, let yourself make a difference, let yourself move forward. [MEntity] These may sound useless platitudes, but we can assure you that any effort to include laughter, empowerment, choice, and movement, even in the worst of scenarios, is far from useless. [MEntity] If you feel that you have chosen Suffering at any point, then let that be included, as well. "Whoops, I chose to suffer again, but that's okay. I can still choose something else along with that. And I can choose again after that." [DandyLIONpuff] I have an inner struggle regarding creative DESIRE that causes a resistance towards action. I will be excited about many mediums ( story writing, music writing, performance) to an equal level that choosing one path seems painful. Am I correct in thinking Essence does not plan the exact medium of the creativity , but only the " vibration" of it? [DandyLIONpuff] if that vibration can be directed towards anything, does it even matter what outer medium is chosen? how does one choose between so many potentials? [MEntity] We remind you that pain, and even fear, is simply information. So if you feel that choosing one over the other is "painful," it is simply information. In cases such as this, that information in not about leaving media of expression behind for the sake of focusing on one, but more about the pain of NOT focusing on one. The distraction is the pain, not the potential. [MEntity] It is painful to be distracted from the focus on the one you have chosen. [MEntity] The pleasure will come when you allow yourself to focus on that choice. The other media will not disappear. [MEntity] They can even float as satellite options for support in that one focus. They need not be left behind, but simply brought into an order that is supportive of the primary focus. [MEntity] For instance, if sculpture becomes the focus, let it be the focus. Give everything to this. Let the existence of your creation snap into form through that medium. But have your paints ready. Have your pen ready. Have your other forms of creativity available. They are not gone, and they do not have to be distractions; they can be supportive. [MEntity] One does not have to cut off one's legs to give strength to his arms. [MEntity] And yes, in the same way that "you" are Essence, no matter what form you choose to take, so are your creations still your creations, no matter what form they take. [susan] We have used the so-called "7" types of centering: ie: The Emotional - Intellectual - Physical - Moving Instinctive - and, Higher Centers namely higher emotional and higher intellectual (we think those are the 7 types) to find pleasure - in rejoining with the 2/3 of c1e7 already cycled off - and, our essence twin - and, guides-guardians etc., is this the right/or wrong usage of learning and utilizing how to work with these 7 centres there is a lot of pleasure found in reconnecting with 'higher levels' of 'yourself' [MEntity] Though we are unclear as to what your question is, we can say that there is no "right" or "wrong" definition of pleasure, and no standard by which any can impose the experience of pleasure. Many gain great pleasure, true pleasure, from the intangible, and many gain true pleasure from the tangible. However, as one's consciousness expands, and one's compassion grows, the definitions of [MEntity] pleasure begin to recognize the responsibility that comes along with true pleasure. [MEntity] But what that pleasure is, is up to you. [MEntity] The pleasures of Manifesting Essence often border on ecstasy. [JamesS] when ever one, try to follow one Passion, Desire, run into Blocks as if "Denied and Pain Follows"Meaning Joy is no longer part of one, Path [MEntity] This questions would require some reformatting for us to understand it. [MEntity] We must conclude here for today, however. [MEntity] Good evening to each of you. [MEntity] Goodbye.