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April 3, 2005 Troy Tolley, Channel Michael Speaks – Open Floor [M Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. You may begin your queue for questions, though we are aware that “tibtyc” will go first. So you may begin, “tibtyc.” [Tibtyc] Greetings. I read in Messages from Michael: “There is only growth, often difficult, mostly painful because so few of you are willing to learn through joy.” How can we better learn through joy? And how can we learn to like joy, prefer it to pain? That is my question. [M Entity] To learn to enjoy… JOY does often require a sort of self-brainwashing, or more specifically, an override of the programming from which you currently run. Many of you are raised in cultures that “reward” struggle, ‘hard work’, suffering, victimization, etc. There is a great amount of teaching and imprinting handed down that equates all good things as being frivolous and even, ironically, BAD. Those who struggle through poverty or pain are more likely to be lifted to a kind of honor that has an unquestioned integrity and position. Those who are enjoying life then have the unsavory position of being guilted, or held responsible for taking more than their share from the common. Prosperity, which we define as having a sense of fulfillment throughout your Centers by your own standards, is daunting, particularly for older souls, because of the imprinting and distraction of guilt. [Tibtyc] Like, Beethoven suffered more than Mozart, thus was a better composer? [M Entity] It could be said (and has been said), yes. There are also fears within the Older Soul that having a certain amount of Prosperity will segregate you from what you have come to know as comfortable and familiar. In other words, if you find a healthy, loving relationship, then you will be segregated from those around you who do not. If you were to find an easy funnel of material security, it would then segregate you from those who have not. [Tibtyc] But it seems that for many of us learning through suffering is more FUN than joy. [M Entity] It could be described as “fun,” but that would be a misnomer. It is not genuinely “fun” for the Personality; it is painful. It could be said that the value gained on the other side of that pain, though, may be interpreted as “worth it.” There are many ways a fragment can begin to learn through Joy, Prosperity, Pleasure instead of Suffering, Loss, and Pain. We will describe two of the more popular ways now: The most direct means of overriding the programming from your culture is through using that programming “against itself,” so to speak. Instead of thinking of your Joy as being something to TAKE or GET from life, it is suggested that you RECEIVE or CREATE it. In other words: you may passively invite the joy, and genuinely acknowledge that joy when it is present. You may actively create that joy, as well, with the intentions of sharing it with at least one other person in some way, so as to divert guilt. The key is in the consciousness used to experience those moments of Joy, whether that Joy is passively attracted or actively created. [Tibtyc] Sounds like self-remembering. [M Entity] If you choose to passively allow it, then it may do you some good to create what has come to be called a Gratitude Journal. Without forcing yourself, write down at least 3 things a day that you have genuinely felt grateful for having experienced. If you were to do this for one week, you may find a great amount of Joy being more easily extracted through your experiences. If you were to do this for one month, it would be easy to transform yourself into having the ability to grasp joy from even the worst of scenarios. [Tibtyc] Grasp joy – but is that learning? [M Entity] If you are creating Joy, you can do so on a small scale, first: invite a friend to the movies, to coffee, for a walk. Take yourself to the movies, for a coffee, for a walk. In those instances, simply acknowledge that you are in some way allowing your Joy to emanate out and about, affecting the world in a positive way, rather than in a defensive way. In response to Tibtyc: We would certainly consider the act of grasping joy as having been a great learning experience. [faldec] not to mention it feels good [M Entity] Do you really believe that you must be pummeled in a classroom in order to learn math? Do you really believe you must be falling from a cliff as your only means to enjoy nature? Do you really believe you must be assaulted as your only means to learn about Love? [Tibtyc] A part of me does. [M Entity] We would easily state with great validity that many have learned to enjoy mathematics without an eraser to the head; that many have learned to enjoy nature without bodily impact; that many have learned to enjoy Love without bruises. The other method of learning to enjoy JOY is really only an extension of the first suggestion: CHOOSE IT. By this we mean that you ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. You can extract many dimensions from a single experience, and it can always be your choice to find/allow the JOY. This is why it is easier to remain with less Joy, because your design allows you to extract even the minutest elements of Joy from the worst of scenarios. That ability can be seductive. [Tibtyc] Like enjoying bad things? [M Entity] Many of you KNOW you can extract the Joy from the worst, so you settle for a certain level of existence, because you can romanticize it later. In response to Tibtyc: It is not that you enjoy “bad things,” but rather that you know you can extract the joy from it, if necessary. Most of the time, that extraction is more a means of healing, than a means of True Joy. True Joy is CHOSEN, CREATED, or ALLOWED. If you find you are extracting Joy from a scenario or experience, then you may do so, but CHOOSE AGAIN, CREATE AGAIN, or INVITE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. We are not saying, nor are we implying, that you can move through the physical plane without scathing, but we do say that pain, suffering, and loss are not the only forms of learning. They are CHOICES. This is not to say that you deliberately CHOOSE Pain, Loss, Suffering, but if you find yourself experiencing these states, each always presents an opportunity to choose again. If you find you are overwhelmed and feel that no choice can alleviate that feeling, then choose something especially loving for yourself, such as waiting, seeking help, calling a friend, watching/listening to something inspirational. Anything that will allow you to step back for a moment, gain some clarity, and then choose again. It is not merely poetic that we say, “You are here to learn how to choose, and to choose how to learn.” It is the truth. [Carrot Wax 1] In David Hawkins’ book, “Power vs. Force”, he described a scale of consciousness and energy manifestation from 1 to 1000. This goes from absolute Shame (20) to Unconditional Love (540) to Enlightenment (600) to Infinite Soul (1000). How accurate is this and how does this relate to manifestation, soul age, and conscious connection to essence? [M Entity] This system of measurement is different from our system in the same way that Astrology or Tarot is different from our system. They cannot be accurately correlated, even if there are some parallels. It appears to be a valid system of measurement, though subjective and local (not Universal). It could not be used outside of your species, for instance. It would have difficulty translating into our system as we could easily see a Final Level Old Soul (technically speaking) still experiencing Shame, and we do not subscribe to the general concept of “Enlightenment.” [Tibtyc] What's wrong with it? [M Entity] Nothing. We did not say there was anything wrong with it. The general concept of Enlightenment is seen as a conclusive state. We have yet to see a conclusion to the experience of growth; therefore, “Enlightenment” is subjective and is more accurately understood contextually and as a transition, perhaps. [Carrot Wax 1] I guess I interpret Enlightenment from that scale as “Non-dualism.” [M Entity] This is why we do not subscribe to the notion, as it is quite subjective and contextual, though valid in describing a particular transition or realization, yes. [faldec] What is the significance, if any, of the bodies excavated at site 117 in Jebel Sahaba in Upper Egypt? It seems an unusual burial site for Egyptians because of the fact the bodies appeared to be buried with wounds and the weapons still in the bodies. [M Entity] The significance will be relative and subject to interpretation, but the reality of a prehistoric “holocaust” would be valid. This appears to be the result of a growing division among local communities over the use of foods and the level of responsibility required of each other to provide for all vs. the hoarding for the stronger, more privileged. Surprisingly, it was those who stood for the equality of all who were able to slaughter those who would otherwise leave those less-able without foods. [faldec] like the people vs. the aristocracy? [M Entity] The social tiers were not as defined as “aristocracy vs. the people,” but more defined as the “Strong and Useful” vs. the “Weak and Useless.” The concept of caring for those weaker than the independent was not looked upon as practical. [H2OSprtlvr] Can a fragment, in one given lifetime, gain a soul age level and if a fragment feels they have mastered or accomplished one goal (say like growth) could they work on another goal in one given lifetime? Like change their Overleaves perhaps? [M Entity] Fragments do change soul ages and levels within a single lifetime, though it is rare. It is not as uncommon among Older Souls, however. In many cases those transitional lifetimes are experienced, literally, as two lifetimes in one incarnation. When a Soul Age or Soul Level shifts within a lifetime, it is rare that the Overleaves will change, but in the rare instance that one would choose to do so, it would take a minimum of 7 years for the new design to be implemented. [H2OSprtlvr] like shifting from a goal of growth to a goal of acceptance? [M Entity] For a fragment to change Overleaves in any situation, a great trauma is usually the only way in which to do so. [faldec] like a coma? M Entity: The body must literally close down and change its structure on levels on and below the levels known as DNA. A coma is a common means of shifting Overleaves and shifting Essences. [H2OSprtlvr] you can’t just make a CHOICE to change your goal or Overleaves? [Tibtyc] Essences? Like a walk.in? [M Entity] Overleaves are biological. They can no more easily be replaced by a simple choice than can a limb or eye color. A fragment may superimpose or USE a different Overleaf as a means to accommodate a short term agenda, but that is no more a change in Overleaves than the dying of your hair or false contact lenses. Yes, tibtyc, in response to your question: as in Walk-ins. It could be said that one is then limited if one cannot simply CHOOSE to change his Overleaves, but that is simply not the case. You already chose your Overleaves in the same way that you chose your body and genetic code. You chose your Overleaves in the same way that you chose Earth. Choices exist on many levels, extending between the levels of Essence and Personality. [H2OSprtlvr] well…that’s where validation of my Overleaves is tricky… I see myself in one goal for awhile and then it appears I have another goal for awhile and so it leaves me confused. [M Entity] We remind you that your GOAL is not something that describes your character, but rather as to where your character is drawn and to where it funnels its experiences, ultimately. In many instances, it is actually describing what your character IS NOT; hence its being a GOAL. [H2OSprtlvr] I get that [H2OSprtlvr] that makes it clearer for me… thank you [M Entity] We can help you determine the validity of your Goal. There are definitive factors that would help with this. It may also be of interest to you that each individual has 3 facets of Overleaves, many times not matching one another. Beyond the True Overleaves, which are on record in the Akashic Plane, there are also those Overleaves of which you EXPECT of yourself, as well as those describing what others expect OF you. This is where many channeling discrepancies come into play if the channel is not using our access to the Akashic Records. [slacnj] My question if you can answer it with a short answer is: When what you want involves another person making a choice how can you learn to either manifest that together or allow what you want into your life some other way? [M Entity] The first choice to make above all choices in this instance is to choose to trust, honor, and allow the choice of another, even if it does not comply with your own. If you are in a position, for instance, in which a boss’s choice will or won’t create a path for your career, you still have a choice. You can choose to quit, find another route within the company; requesting specific parameters in which your efforts can be unquestionably worthy of progress, etc. If you cannot move beyond a blockage created by another person, you can only make choices around, through, under, beyond that point in the same way that you would navigate any obstacle. We CAN say, however, that learning to shift your OWN energy many times resonates out of another person the very thing you wish to have as support for your choices. There are many versions of one person in your space. You are not limited to experiencing only the personality that chooses to block you, or whose choices block you. There are multitudes of versions of any fragment and a shift in your own perspective, energy, and actions can literally shift the energetic identity of another individual to a version more willing to help. They are not replaced, but rather the potential within that person to support your choice then has the option of manifesting. Most of your obstacles seen as other people are only obstacles as reflective of obstacles within. Clear the internal philosophies supporting those obstacles and you naturally clear the external reflection of those obstacles. [H2OSprtlvr] in other words… changing your attitude would change the outcome sometimes? [M Entity] Sometimes one of the fastest and easiest ways to create harmony between yourself and another is to seek out what the other fragment NEEDS. Of course, we are speaking only in terms of obstacles, not in terms of hurtful interferences to your own choices. You may interpret people around you in terms of how they express their Sub-Personalities. A single fragment can be a “different” person to several different people’s experiences. An internal shift of your own can invite an internal shift in another. In other words, the Sub-Personality in you that deals with Obstacles might gently invite the Sub-Personality in who takes care of creating Harmony. It could be said beyond all of this that there are at least 12 different approaches to changing a dynamic with another person so that your choices are in harmony. Studying the definitions of the 12 Support Positions would give you the methods in which you could improve your ability to generate harmony as you relate to others who may be obstacles. Good Night to all of you. We will conclude here.
MICHAEL SPEAKS 071309 OPEN FLOOR [Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here now. We will begin with a response to Jon's question. [QUESTION] What is Michael's advice for not just surviving in this economy, but thriving? It seems like there is extra opportunity because everyone else is pulling back. I would like to know we can use those opportunities to their fullest... [Michael Entity] In terms of lucrative ventures, anything focused on the improvement of daily life is going to be received well, especially if it is affordable and has long-term use or impact, from entertainment to practical gadgets. It appears to us that anything connecting an individual to a group is going to be received well, also. We offer that response up as our perspective, but not as a suggestion, or advice. We think that any fragment can "thrive" in any economy when the basics of shelter and food are provided, so the lucrative ventures and "opportunities" are presuming an economy that is fairly thriving by material standards compared to survival. The opportunities that may be most lucrative and beneficial in terms of material well-being would be any that are in keeping with Mature Soul values that continue to be recognized. Any venture that emphasizes improvement of stable position, and positive impact of the individual among groups, may be found to be lucrative. We are describing a broad context because your creativity and personal passions must be the fuel for what is pursued or provided for material abundance. What we would suggest is a process of examining what drives your enthusiasm, or frustrations, and then measure those against the skills and tools you have for either sharing that enthusiasm, or providing a solution for the frustration, and then determining if there is a market for it. If there is no market, then create one, if you choose to do so. It is not necessary to wait for the masses to help shape your investments. It is often the case that the most lucrative ventures have come from sharing what was never considered by the masses at the time. We would suggest never to underestimate your creative impulses, though it is helpful to eventually focus them. To summarize: for the world as it stands now, the areas of high receptions would be those that encourage positive group experiences and/or emphasizes the pleasures of living in a shared environment. Beyond this, we would suggest speaking to a competent investor, as they may have a much closer "finger on the pulse" of any immediate ventures of interest. [QUESTION] Recently much fervor is being talked about over future pandemics (viruses) on the rise. USA is talking mandatory vaccine shots. Is there cause for concern over widespread pandemics and/or the mandatory vaccines? What can we do to protect ourselves and loved ones concerning the shots and/or viruses? Thank You. [Michael Entity] The choice to abide by enforced laws, or not, will still be your choice, though you would have to be willing to take on the potential consequences of either direction. There will always be ways around enforced laws with which you do not wish to comply, however difficult that may be. Mandatory vaccinations appear to be a low probability for enforcement at this point. It would be more likely that incentives would be used. At this point, "fear" is enough of an incentive for most to comply. So the concern over mandatory vaccines appears to be unwarranted at this point, but the concern over "pandemics" is valid concern, at least among metropolitan areas where constant close contact is a daily event. And when we say that the concern is valid, we do not imply that as a prediction, merely that the concern is more valid than that of the concern over mandatory vaccines. Vaccines would have little effect on preventing a "pandemic" or "epidemic." If it were to happen, it would be as a result of a mass lacking of immunity against a fast contagion and no vaccine can predict this. Only after-the-fact of spreading infection would a vaccine become effective. [QUESTION] is the vaccine harmful? [Michael Entity] In the use of any vaccine, there is always a risk, but the risks that are posed are limited to a small percentage of the population. In most cases, a vaccine either works, or has no effect at all. In isolated cases, the effect is not as desirable. [QUESTION] I see, but there will be more viruses on the rise? [Michael Entity] It is valid that viri are morphing and mutating at speeds and volumes unprecedented, but so are immune systems and most are capable of keeping up. In most instances of a viral scare, you would see that it is affecting mostly the elderly or infants or those with already-compromised immune systems. This is not to say that those with weak systems need not be protected, but that this reality helps to alert to any spreading dangers long before the majority would be at risk. [QUESTION] so by not getting vaccinated we are not placing others at risk? [Michael Entity] Choosing not to be vaccinated puts no one at risk but oneself, if you wish to call it a "risk." We say this because your lack of immunity has little to do with the level of immunity in another. The greatest "vaccination," or boost of immunity, that anybody can have is a high level of self-esteem. At the root of all immune deficiencies is a proportional blow or chronic erosion of self-esteem. When medicine and community emphasizes the well-being of the individual's sense of place, purpose, and position within his or her life, then disease and contagion will have all but disappeared. [QUESTION] what is Michael's definition of real purpose / real task / real mission - is this something that is contractual between our essence/and, our fragment and, essence will come in to communicate it to us... it seems that this "real work" occurs for fragments between the 4th I.M. and, 5th I.M., does it have 7 levels of operation ??? and, if so, what are they ??? maybe some people do it before the 4th-and, starting of the 5th - and, do it throughout their lives [Michael Entity] We would think our phrase of "Life Task" may be of relevance here, and we would define that as "the original motivation for the physical form and for the dynamics of the Personality." There are no contracts in this case, but there are intentions and agreements that are helped along by Essence until the Personality is no longer interested. The Life Task is what Essence intended to experience in the lifetime through this particular Personality. What Essence intends NEVER overrides what Personality decides. Essence has no urgency for these intentions because it is fully aware of the fact that it can create another lifetime and body for trying again. In addition to the option for creating new lifetimes for the intent of a task, there are also parallel branches within a single lifetime where, more often than not, at least one version of "you" does co-create the life with Essence and fulfill the task. Essence will never impose its vision upon the Personality beyond the original motivation and design. Most Personalities can determine their Life Task quite easily because it is more often than not something they already do. The Life Task is a primary consideration in the design of Personality, so whether one experiences the fulfillment of that task, or merely develops fruitless habits and patterns, the clues would still be there. If one is not already doing something related to the Life Task, then clues are usually found in what one WISHES one were doing. It is valid that the 4th Internal Monad is usually the stage within the life when a fragment truly questions the alignment of self with soul, or life with essence, or path with presence, depending on the spirituality of the individual. There are 7 stages to the process of fulfilling the Life Task and they correspond to the 7 stages within the 4th Internal Monad. We will include those in the final transcript. [See The 7 Stages of the 4th Internal Monad.] [QUESTION] How is life task related to self karma. Are they the same? [Michael Entity] The Life Task is related to Self-Karma only insofar as Self-Karma is an obstacle to the fulfillment of the Life Task. They are not interlocked, but some fragments can find the distractions of Self-Karma to block or deflect any sense of fulfillment of the Task. Many are capable of managing both the Life Task and the work of Self-Karma, especially if the Life Task is in an unrelated life context from the Self-Karma. [QUESTION] Is there only one life task, or is there typically a bundle of tasks to be completed? [Michael Entity] Some choose to have an arcing Life Task with several tasks to build upon, but the concept of the Life Task is a singular context as a whole. It would help to think of the Life Task as a QUALITY sought to be experienced, much like the Goal is. In fact, the Life Task is simply a more focused detail of the Goal. [QUESTION] I would like to hear you discuss more about choice. From my understanding, every personality has the ability to choose. However, incarnations are planned out ahead of time as well as parents, agreements, TC's, etc. What I would like to know, is what would happen if a baby were to be born when no Essence planned that life out? Is that something that is possible if personality does indeed have free will and choice? Would that baby be born without a soul/Essence? What would that life be like? Can humans really act outside of Essence's influence, has it ever been done, and when? [Michael Entity] In all cases of Incarnation, the first seven years of a life are lived "without a soul," so to speak. By this we mean that the body and Personality are most vulnerable to the choices of others who are fully incarnated and the Essence of that Personality does more in that period of time to help shape the path of the life than at any other time, for most fragments. It takes up to 7 years for the Personality to fully resonate and embrace the Essence, if at all. It could be said another way that it takes up to seven years for the soul to "move in" to the body, though we would not mean that literally. With this 7 year process in mind, it may be more easily understood that a body born despite an Essence's choice to "back out" is then "up for grabs" for any other Essence, and bodies are often grabbed up when they are available like this, much in the same way that one might scramble to catch the next bus or plane. However, while it does happen, it is extremely rare that any Body or Personality would be born without the Essence fully committed. That kind of birth happens most often during the Infant Soul Cycle, but when it does happen, the Body dies within a relatively short time of birth if no Essence grabs it up. It is never the case that an Adult Personality or Body is conscious without an Essence. [QUESTION] so, personality is doing the gathering at that stage? [Michael Entity] During the first 7 years of life, the Personality is most passive in its gathering of experiences, and Essence is most powerful, though this will vary from Personality to Personality, of course. [COMMENT] so it seems there are some "limits" to choice in a manner of speaking [Michael Entity] The key here is understanding that Choice exists on all levels, and each level has its perimeters. Essence's level of choice is vast and encompassing of Personality's level of choice. Personality's level of choice is limited by the contexts, tools, and mobility of the lifetime, but always overrides Essence's choices while Physical. When we are quoted as saying "All Is Choice," it is implicit that we spoke of the various levels of "you" that is "all." In addition to that, it is implicit that CHOICE does not automatically mean CREATION or Cause. It can also mean RESPONSE. Not all impact in your life will be of your choice, but what you choose to do with that impact will be your choice. Eventually the experience of Essence and Personality are blurred into each other and the life is a co-creative process that has no sense of division. [QUESTION] what are the 7 levels of real essence contact? [Michael Entity] Becoming more intimate and aware of your Essence could be described by these 7 stages below. We are describing them in terms of the level of consciousness brought to the process of Choice. ONE: Conscious Choice; if you are aware that you are making a choice, you are at least within the first stage of Essence contact TWO: Self-Nurturing Choice; if you are aware that you are choosing, and that your choices are intended to nurture yourself, then you are at least within the second stage of Essence Contact. THREE: Pleasurable Choice: if you are aware that you are choosing, that your choices are intended to nurture, and that your navigation is pointed toward pleasurable experiences, then you are within at least the 3 stage of Essence Contact. FOUR: Causal Choice: if you are aware that you are choosing, that your choices are intended to nurture, that your navigation is intended to bring pleasure, and that all of this can be considered in the context of its impact on others and your probabilities (future), then you are at least within the 4th stages of Essence Contact. FIVE: Truthful Choice: building upon the previous four levels or stages, we would describe the 5th Stage as that of being incapable of deceiving yourself or others, or making choices based upon lies that you have come to rely upon as truths about yourself or others in ways that cause harm, isolation, pain, boredom, or lack of fulfillment. We rarely see a full movement into or beyond this 5th Stage. SIXTH: Trustful Choice: building upon the previous 5 stages, this stage describes a sense of peace and trust, not only in your personal awareness and sense of capabilities within the life, but upon your Essence as a part of your resource for knowledge and history. This is not a blindness or moments of leaping into the unknown, but of a deep peace that your intuition and inner guidance is exactly what is appropriate for you, and that if you were discover differently, you would trust that you simply recalibrate. SEVEN: Playful Choice: this is a level of living that builds upon the previous 6 levels and has no fear. Fear is used as a form of information, not imprisonment or paralyzation. It is a deep recognition of your existence before, within, and beyond this Personality and lifetime, and life is then experienced as a massive opportunity to play, whatever that may mean for you. There are other ways to describe these 7 stages of intimacy and embrace of Essence by Personality, but this is one way that is applicable and valid. [QUESTION] What causes the emotion of being annoyed, and how is it useful? [Michael Entity] Being "annoyed" is often a defense against helplessness, or a wish to control a person, circumstance, context, or time frame; it is an offshoot of the Impatience and Martyrdom Axis, and even if those are not your habitual Chief Features, they are still accessible to all. In short, it is a control issue. Annoyance is only as useful as one takes the opportunity to see it as informative. Annoyance points out where one wishes others would change so that one does not have to. If there is chronic, unwarranted annoyance, keep in mind that the extent to which one is annoyed is the extent to which one is avoiding a truth about oneself. Those truths are usually painful and connected to the past and wounding. Mild annoyances are simply distractions, but if the experiences rise to chronic distraction, or to a clear pattern, there is information in those experiences that are specific to the individual being annoyed. [QUESTION] So the work lies with the one who is annoyed, not the one who is annoying? [Michael Entity] The "work" will always lie with the one who is triggered because there is no real way to control others without the risk of generating Karmic Ribbons. All of this being said, Annoyance is just another form of navigation. If something or someone annoys you, it does not mean there is some deep, dark underbelly of wounding to unveil; it can often simply mean to move in a direction away from that which annoys you. It can often mean speaking up when you normally would not. It can mean offering alternatives, instead of presuming a limitation. It can mean adapting, despite your resistance. The key in most Annoyances is in what you WILL NOT DO because you feel you "shouldn't have to." One way to heal an Annoyance that may be a constant in your life is to recognize that you feel your personal Rights are being violated. If one can identify exactly what Right is being violated and voice that Right internally or externally, and then act most accordingly, then many situations can be relieved that way. And finally, we would say that it is important to note here that the emphasis is not always about relieving the annoyance; this is often not possible in cases where physical danger may lurk, such as speaking up against a band of armed hoodlums who are ruining a movie. The issue is in giving yourself permission to claim back your Right in some way. You may not be able to convince others of your Rights, but you can make the choices that are most serving of your Rights. And once one has begun to understand, reclaim, and nurture his or her own Rights, then the fulfillment of the Rights of others do not seem as offensive or annoying. The hoodlums, for instance, while by most standards would be violating a multitude of social boundaries, are simply overcompensating for Rights that they, too, feel have been violated in their own life. Annoyance then can become Empathy and you would find other ways besides the enjoyment of a movie can help to nurture your own sense of Rights. [QUESTION] This is a carryover from the last chat and may be confusing; however, I'll try and lay some groundwork. Last month's chat, we had a very nice session on how it's the Role in Essence that evolves through the Soul Age Levels, and that it's Roles that go through the various Grand Cycle evolutionary experiences, not Essence, per se. Yet, conversely, we're also told that it's Essence who holds their casting place in Entity, which then recombines as a single being as it were, including recombining the Entities into a Cadre being, and even onwards into an Energy Ring being on the way back to Tao. My question would be a need for clarification about how Essence retains individual integrity enough to have Roles and multiple grand cycles within this larger recombined or integrated structure of Entities to Cadres to Energy Rings. [Michael Entity] We will offer up this analogy for you to consider: Within your single lifetime you are born and live a life full of impact, choices, relationships, foci, paths, environments, experiences, etc. At the end of that lifetime, it could be said that who you are is the culmination of that entire lifetime. Each day, each month, each relationship, each environment, etc., to your Personality in no way loses substantial existence or influence simply because the Personality ages. And so it is for Essence. Every Personality, lifetime, Agreement, Karma, Configuration, Entity, Cadre, Energy Ring in no way lose their relevance at the eventual "end" of a Grand Cycle. To take this further: in the same way that your waking up in the morning and changing clothes does not lose the day before, so it is that Essence does not lose itself. This may be difficult to fathom, but this analogy is as accurate as possible. Each Grand Cycle to Essence is like each day to your Personality, so to speak. Most Essences have only been "awake" for "3 days," then. [QUESTION] Although, how can one go on to be new roles, grand cycles, etc -- are those akin to personalities to Essence types of experiences? [Michael Entity] Yes, when Essence (or Spark) returns to Tao and then chooses a new Grand Cycle, its choice of a new Role and relationships and Casting are similar to the Role's choice of a new Personality, parents, geographical location, and Overleaves in each lifetime. [QUESTION] So when essence recombines in the Causal Plane and above on its way back to Tao, it is still able to access these memories, even after it is Tao? [Michael Entity] Yes, the memories are always there for the "Spark" that is behind the choice of Essence Role, but not necessarily for the Essence Role and Personalities that are distinct to a particular Grand Cycle and Physical Plane. It is a misnomer to call them "memories" in this case, but it is the most accurate word for now. [ELABORATION REQUESTED BY TROY] One of way of understanding this thread of continuity for the Spark, or Essence, is to imagine a box of photographs from your childhood, and a box of videotapes from your youth, and DVDs of your adult life, etc. With each passing stage of life, your memories of the past are not a constant in your mind, but those stored images can trigger those memories in an instant. The same could be said of your Spark, or Essence, as it moves from one Grand Cycle to another. A "box of images" are left with Tao, so to speak, and can be drawn from at any point, or pulled up in between Cycles, but the "memories" are not exactly prominent in the current focus. [QUESTION] So while individuality is 'lost' it is still 'retained' - I love when the rule of paradox applies [Michael Entity] The need for individuality is lost, but not the validity of it. [QUESTION] I have a question about the influence of past cycles. It there are two fragments, A and B. Fragment A has completed 15 cycles as a human being. Fragment B has no previous cycles. If both are beginning a new grand cycle, how would the perspective of A be different from B in the Infant stage? Generally how would the experience of the entire new cycle be different? [Michael Entity] We can only speak from observation of similar phenomenon, and what we have observed is that "fragment A" would manifest Essence and propel through the levels of Soul Age at a rate that could be described as "faster" than that of "fragment B." In most cases of a Sentient Race, the gaps in Grand Cycle experience are bridged by fewer incarnations from those who have more Grand Cycles. In other words, "Fragment A" may have 1 lifetime for every 10 of "fragment B." This is why the lifetime count for many of our students is lower than those who are of a much Younger Soul Age, because the average Grand Cycle count for your species is 3, whereas many of our students average around 9. [QUESTION] Would there be a qualitative difference? For example I read a book at 12 (younger) and then I read the same book at 50. the same experience but so different also. [Michael Entity] Sometimes that is the case, however, most Grand Cycles are not repeated within the same species or planetary system, so it is not a revisit of familiarity, but a completely new experience for all involved. Most of you have never been Human before. [QUESTION] most? that means that some have . . . [Michael Entity] Yes, but Humans exist in other locations of your Universe. [QUESTION] Are they pretty much exactly the same as us, or are there noticeable evolutionary differences? [Michael Entity] When we said "humans exist in other locations," we meant that you would recognize them as exactly like you for the most part. [QUESTION] Why go through it a 15th time? Just for speed? [Michael Entity] Grand Cycles are commitments to completely new species and location, or a new species in the same location, or the same species in a new location, but rarely does Sentience return to both the same species and location. [QUESTION] I understand that animal companions are extremely connected to the human they are with, but do they ever stay (alive) past what they would choose based on the human's needs? And if so, what effect would that have on the animal? [Michael Entity] No. When an animal companion is "done," he or she or it is done. If there is still life, it is because the life is not over. For animal companions who are developing the Emotional Center, the experience of a lengthy process of aging can bring tremendous evolution to that Center. Not only for the animal, but for the caretaker. [QUESTION] "Balance implies obsolescence of the overleaves. Balanced man is no longer stuck. He is free to move in real space where there are no limitations" (Messages from Michael). I can only interpret this to mean that it is possible to change one's overleaves - not easy, but in rare cases, possible. However, the overleaves can be regarded as part of the physical plane, and there is also the common idea that the positive poles of the overleaves represent the true personality. I don't see any real conflict in this (as it sometimes appears in discussions), unless one assumes it is possible to exist on the physical plane without overleaves, as the quote above seems to imply. Comments? [Michael Entity] Overleaves do not change except in very rare instances of Walk-ins, when the body that would normally die is then passed on to a new Essence. It is then that the new Essence can use the next 7 years of recovery for altering the Overleaves. Overleaves are genetic, so the changing of them is not an easy or popular process, and most changes are limited by axis (e.g. Idealist changes to Skeptic, or Growth to Re-evaluation). [QUESTION] So, what does this 'balanced man' mean? [Michael Entity] What is meant by "balance" here could be more easily understood as "choice-driven." When one is choice-driven, then one can choose to act, feel, and be accordingly and not just through the dictations of design. For instance, though one may be an Idealist by design, one can direct that Idealism through various tools of choice, including the entire spectrum of that Axis, through the study of impact from his choices, and even through the search for understanding the primary perspectives (attitudes) of others. When one is "balanced" it simply means that one is no longer restricted by design, only by the capability to choose. Choosing from within a structure or design is not a restriction; it is a necessity. True Freedom does not exist without structure or design. We will point out that while one cannot truly change his Overleaves, he can USE the other Overleaves at will. In other words, just because one is an Idealist does NOT mean one cannot comprehend the perspective of a Pragmatist or a Stoic, or a Cynic. The "balanced" person is capable of empathy and that empathy would be based upon the capability to expand beyond your design. Watching a good actor is an example of these statements. Just because one is born with black hair by design does not mean that he or she cannot wear a blonde wig, and wear it well. You may not be able to change WHO you are, but you can always change HOW you are. [QUESTION] Are sages particularly adept at this? [Michael Entity] We would not say they are particularly adept as much as we would say they are more quickly interested in that path to true freedom of expression. [QUESTION] If someone evolves in their expression of an overleaf, does this capacity ever extend to ability with other overleaves [Michael Entity] Yes, when the use of one Overleaf excels, so does the potential for use of the other Overleaves. The benefit of one benefits the whole. The Attitude is the primary pivotal Overleaf for all Personalities, by the way. [QUESTION] Does all of the hoohah about "raising one's vibrations" or elevating one's dimension have to do with this basic quotation about "real space without limitations"? [Michael Entity] We do not think all conversations, or "hoohah," about raising vibrations relates to our quote, but we can say that our quote has nothing to do with raising vibrations, except insofar as expanding the capabilities of choice might be equated to that concept. [QUESTION] Michael, this may be too personal to be relevant in this forum, but if not, are you able to see any reasons why the 60's Rock n' Roll artist "Jimi Hendrix" resonates so familiarly with me since I learned of his existence as an early teen? [Michael Entity] We can say that this fragment resonated to many for various personal reasons that we can address more directly to you in another format, but on a larger scale this fragment was also a symbolic representation of "possibility," which appealed to a great many beyond the medium through which he expressed that possibility. The showcasing of his skills was new and exciting and pleasurable to many, and this ignited a great deal of creative inspiration for many to use within their own lives in meaningful ways. When any fragment is able to be showcased as eloquent, artistic, and talented beyond the apparent obstacles of the times, inspiration is bound to ensue for many. Recent examples of this on a small scale could be said to have been the fragment known as "Susan Boyle" or the captain of the flight that landed in the Hudson River. On an even larger scale than the fragment who was "Jimi Hendrix," many would say that the fragment known as Michael Jackson embodied this inspiration of possibility over obstacles, as well. We will conclude here. Goodbye.
This question was originally posted by Peter on 11/13/08. Can we change our Michael charts through meditation? If so, would we then have to realign our astrological charts through meditation to accommodate the change in our Michael charts? FROM MICHAEL: To change one's Overleaves through meditation would be as easy as switching out your physical body for another through meditation. We will not say that it is impossible, but we will say that we have never seen it done. Essence chooses (and eventually learns to design) the body and the Overleaves/Personality, which are interlocked in levels of DNA. In the same way that your DNA could be said to hold all of the potential combinations of your species and beyond, so does each person hold the pallet of Overleaves within, but to rearrange your DNA or your Overleaves would require far more concentration and energy than meditation can provide. The instances where we have seen Overleaves change to any meaningful degree have been in the instances of Walk-ins, which is the switching out of one Essence for another Essence for a single body, but even then, the shift is only on the level of Axes, not beyond that. In other words, Growth can move to an emphasis on Re-evaluation, or Passion can move to Reserved, but Growth would not be replaced with Acceptance, and Passion would not be replaced with Power. Astrological patterns describe the potential of a lifetime and can be reinterpreted, but not replaced. For that matter, and with all of this being said, the Overleaves System is merely one way of interpreting and describing energy and patterns and terrain, and therefore can be reinterpreted and understood in different ways from different angles. This is why there are discrepancies among our channels in some cases, because there are ways to interpret an individual as he presents himself, as he wishes himself to be, and as he is. This could be understood with the comparison of trying to describe the color of someone's hair: one may call it Deep Honey, while another may call it Chestnut, but both are just variations of Brown. The hair color does not change just because it can be called a variety of things.
NYC Live: On Current Events July 14, 2011 Note from Janet: This session was transcribed by Elaine and Eric from a live recording. MEntity: We are here now. It will take a little bit of time for us to come through smoothly, so bear with us if we pause in awkward moments in our responses. Hello to each of you. We understand the context of our exchange with you today will be current events, and what we will do first is speak to you a bit about that context so that the parameters of discussion are more defined, as well as having some dimension added to the context. We would define current events as anything that is happening in the world on some scale that is relevant to you now. In fact, it might be more accurate to call them relevant events rather than current events, because the time frames for events that are relevant for you are not necessarily so current, and of course our perception of what is current is very different from yours. The reason current events are something worth exploring is because they often give insight into what is happening with your species and with your collective consciousness. There are a lot of things happening in the world and only a portion of those come to your awareness, and now that there are so many avenues with which you can access information and current events, it is even more telling what it is that comes through to you. You are no longer just dependent on radio stations or limited broadcasts or even word of mouth, but you can actively go out and find information. What you seek and what makes its way through to you has some bearing on your world view, and where you find yourself in relation to the rest of your species. Often, current events, or events happening in the world, are polarized in their meaning and they play out the extremes in a way that we can most simply describe as the spectrum between love and fear. So what you are drawn to usually resonates to issues that you are working on relative to your capacity to love, and issues that represent your issues relative to your fears. Usually the things that fall in-between those personalized holes doesn't make it through to you or, if it does, is dismissed. And so looking at what you are drawn to in the media — and this would include films, this will include music, this doesn't just include the news – can give you great insight into where you are in your participation with humanity, and how you find yourself represented in the world. In general, a lot of what makes the news and becomes relevant to you makes the news and becomes relevant because it plays upon the three levels of truth that we have talked about in the past. The more collective a species becomes, the more cohesive it becomes. Or, in other words, the more it matures in soul age collectively, the more it begins to examine its truths on a personal level, on a global level and on a universal level. So a great deal of what happens in the media and in the news and what you are drawn to represents your process of those three levels of truth, what it means to you personally, how you understand what it means to everyone else, and how it represents the more universal truths such as love and fear, and truth itself, and energy or beauty. So with that in mind as a foundation for looking deeper, as we look at the various subjects you might bring up we might circle back to what we just shared to give examples. And with that, we'll open the floor to questions from you about current events, and you may ask in whatever order comes from your group. [Comment] Well okay, so I would like to know if Casey Anthony killed her daughter and, if so, why? MEntity: At this point we cannot answer that question any more accurately than you can. The Intensity of such dynamics that are being played out, especially when it comes to karmic dynamics, are difficult for us to read because we do not have access to the details of an individual or a group's Karma until it is played out, until it is completed. The reason we do not have access to it is because it could incur Karma for us to provide that information for people who are in the middle of it. And therefore, not only is it not accessible in many cases, but we also refrain from exploring it to any extent that might incur Karma. We cannot incur Karma from where we are. [Question] Are any of us in the room involved in this Karmic event? MEntity: No, but that will not change our ability to access it. When a situation is unfolding that is within the process of burning or creating Karmic ribbons, our access to the details is quite limited. For your information or for those involved, this is because ... for instance, imagine that you have a karmic ribbon with another fragment who owes you, so to speak, a murder. If we were to share with you that you have a karmic ribbon with an individual who owes you a murder, the impact on your psyche could potentially be to such an extent that it generates a ribbon between us, or at least the channel and you, do you understand? [Comment] Yeah, I understood that from before when we had the issue where we obviously had Karma. MEntity: However, we can answer questions around the question of if she did or did not and we can say that this is a Karmic situation that is playing out, which is one of the reasons why it is such a fascination for the public, because it does resonate with not only the human drama in general, but those who have gone through this before in other lives. They are watching to see how others process this. It is quite interesting for most fragments to watch, to see how another group plays out such an intense drama. For the older souls, we would say that this subject has not been so interesting because you have “been there, done that.” You have murdered your children, you have accidentally killed your children, you have accidentally been killed by your parents or caretakers, and you're rather neutral about the subject. Those who are not so neutral about it, and are polarized, have probably not played out both sides of that scenario yet in terms of incarnations. We cannot say whether she killed her daughter or not, but we know that she was involved to such an extent that this appears to be a ribbon that is burning, a burning of a ribbon, as part of the dynamic that we can see. Within a short period of time — 6 months to a year — included in this dynamic is a confession that will clarify everything, because that is part of what we can see as the flip side of the original initiation of this Karma. The why of it we can answer as well, that it does not appear to have been intentional, the death itself. And that is the best we can do with the details. [Comment] Thank you. [Question] Can you comment on the unrest in China, some of what we've been seeing a lot of (protests) recently, and also in the context of the transition of the leadership, and their path towards democracy. MEntity: For quite some time that particular area of the world has been where most of the Servers have been incarnating, and things have been fairly passive in that regard. Cultures such as the United States have been lacking the incarnation of servers, which has contributed to some of the breakdown of family and the redefining of family, and this is part of what happens when a culture is shifting or emphasizing the Young Soul consciousness. The Young Soul paradigm is “I can do it myself,” and so Servers do not have a great deal of positions to be in except to be subservient. Not all Servers are interested in simply being subservient or exploited, and Young Souls can tend to do this. So Servers moved away from the United States, for instance, as it went through its Young Soul phase, and congregated in China, or at least in that general area. However, as the United States begins to mature and shift into Mature Soul consciousness, the Mature Souls then shift the paradigm from “I can do it all myself” to “Let me do it for you,” or “Let me help you.” As the empathy begins to spread, Servers find a more comfortable position again in that kind of paradigm. And so more Servers are coming back to the United States and leaving China. However, those Servers who are still in the incarnational process in China are part of the whole reason for the unrest and uprisings, because the exploited Server either falls into a passive category, and moves into being exploited, or they get, for lack of a better phrase, pissed off, and would begin to lash out and begin to pull the rug out from underneath those who previously depended upon them. Servers know more intimately and in more specific detail what it is that those around them need. It is simply built into the design of that essence. And so if the Servers are maturing in consciousness to a point where they have realized that there is a need for, say, democracy or more freedom, less exploitation, then they will work in that direction to inspire that in those around them. So this is a revolution of Servers that we see unfolding in that area. So many may see the Server role as only being of service, or of a following nature, but they are responsible for some of the major shifts in paradigm because they make up most of the population of the planet. This shift will occur. It is moving towards a Young Soul culture of intolerance towards any kind of restrictions, any kind of cap on the capacity for success, any kind of control over the desires and cravings of those who are incarnating. And so the shift is moving towards a Young Soul paradigm, and that part of the world, as far as we can see, in momentum may rise to what the United States have been for the past many years. [Question] So as a follow up question then. Is it valid to view the momentum of LGBT rights in America and recognizing the importance as part of that shift into the Mature Soul phase? MEntity: Yes. You'll see the Mature Soul paradigm begin play out, as, for instance, represented by your leader, the Priest, Barack Obama, who is a Mature Soul and is using Mature Soul tactics for progress, which requires a great deal of compromise, deliberation and consideration of all aspects and all needs. And so some who have criticized his methods or his tactics and criticized the lack of drive or force are simply seeing a different way of leading. It's going to set a standard for others as well, as the Mature Soul paradigm takes effect. Leadership will no longer be about dictatorship making choices for others, but hearing from all sides and making a choice in the best interest of the most that can possibly be accommodated. Therefore, you will see that in smaller pockets happening around the country, where, in a Mature Soul paradigm, the rights of groups become vital because the consciousness no longer allows for the division, that discrimination in the sense of prejudices. It does not fit into that awareness anymore, because if the Mature Soul rejects you there is a visceral response to that. There is a rejection of the self there is a rejection of a part of you. So to embrace differences, to embrace diversity, to embrace the rights of those around you, is a way of also becoming more whole and of nurturing your own sense of wholeness and evolution. So, yes. [Comment] There was my question. I was gonna ask about why he is so damned wishy washy and not getting anything done for the Democratic Party. MEntity: Yes, it is simply a different method of leadership. Mature Souls do not lead through force. It is through communication, often compromise. [Comment] Well, yes. He's compromised right out of a lot of things MEntity: That is the negative side of negotiation for the Mature Soul, the compromise. We're trying to find the right word for describing the other end of that spectrum, which is something along the lines of harmony. Compromise in this case would be the loss of, or at least the perceived loss of, something for the sake of a group. However, when the negotiations are more harmonious, those losses are not seen as losses. They are perceived as small prices to pay for. [Comment] But unfortunately, he is negotiating with people who are much more Baby Soul oriented, Young Soul oriented, that are demanding and ridiculous, and so … MEntity: That is a valid perception. [Comment] Why thank you. So it's like he is working with a set of rules that he is trying to apply, but since they are playing with their own special set it is like he's just getting stomped on in a lot of ways. So do you think that it will be perceived … because a lot of people are concerned that he won't win the next election. I think he will, but a lot of people think he won't because he's pissing off the left by not doing anything for them, that they want done, they voted him in for, and then the right is just whackadoodle shit. MEntity: Everything that this Priest is doing is more calculated than might be obvious to those who perceive it from a distance because the Priest in the positive pole is compassion, and that translates into empathy. That sense of empathy can be its own curse as well as its own blessing, so to speak, and so the empathy is driving this fragment to explore what is important to everyone. And that can take time, to hear everyone out and to make sure they are heard and understood. But it can also give clues as to what can be done on a larger scale that will allow for the greatest good, or the highest good, because the Priest aims for the highest good, whatever that Priest has decided is the highest good. A Mature Priest will have a hard time imposing a highest good without hearing from everyone involved. [Comment] He only gets 4 years (unclear) MEntity: That is the only obstacle: time. This is a race against time for this fragment because this fragment may find himself in a position where he has to draw lines that are extremely uncomfortable and counter to his intentions. [Question] Otherwise he won't get another 4 years to keep going and working on it? Are you saying that when it gets closer to the election he is going to have to do more things to show he has a pair? MEntity: We would not phrase it in that way. [Comment] But I would. MEntity: We would also say that that would not be from what we can see as this fragment's motivation. It would be more to get done and into place those things that matter, even if it meant not having another 4 years. So the motivation would be to do what can be done in a limited period of time. If that ends up being to the liking of those who will vote, then that may bode well for the election in his favor. And while that is a concern, of course, he would not draw the line just to prove something. It would be, from what we can see, motivated by the concern that if the line were not drawn then those things that were intended would not be done by whoever took his place. [Comment] So it sounds like he is a pivotal president because of the shift in soul age at this time. MEntity: Oh yes. [Question] So he is thinking more about laying groundwork for much farther in the future than just his presidency? MEntity: We would agree with that. For instance, going back to the rights of homosexuals and transgender and so forth, the methods that are being allowed to unfold on their own are securing rights in a way that would be much more difficult to remove if someone would choose to do so in the future. There were options along the way that could have imposed or enforced rights, but the encouragement for the population to choose those is a much more effective means of securing them than to enforce them or to impose them. [Comment] I see what you are saying. MEntity: Yes. [Question] Along maybe a similar line, we're supposed to be shifting into a Mature Soul paradigm in the United States, but it is funny hearing it sometimes because in politics it's gotten so much more partisan. And also, when we look at just the pop culture, the pop culture feels like it has degraded over the time. We used to have movie stars and cinema, and now we focus on Jersey Shore and Paris Hilton. It feels like the culture is becoming more materialistic and more simplistic. And again, with the political spectrum, it feels like it is becoming more self-centered. And I understand that part of that may be the more access to information, so I would be curious to hear how much that is affecting it, but also, how do we reconcile that in terms of understanding that we are shifting into a Mature Soul paradigm? MEntity: Every transition is going to have, especially a major transition, will have two dynamics at play. One will be the reaction to that shift and the attempts to stop it, and so that is being played out in politics. The amplification of the Baby and Young Souls who do not want things to change are obviously going to be contrasted more obviously against the change that is coming inevitably. And we say inevitably, not because it is something fated or destined, but because evolution is difficult to stop. Momentum is difficult to stop, and once you learn or mature you can't unmature. You can't unlearn. You can't lose that compassion and that empathy that is gained. And that spreads. So the contrast is the one element or the one dynamic that is being played out. The other is that, in a transition, one of the ways the transition can take root is by using the very familiar world from which the transition is coming. So as your media, or your entertainment, moves towards more “reality TV,” it is stripping away the glamour that was the Young Soul paradigm portrayed in movie stars and the romanticizing of those movie stars — stripping away the entire Young Soul glamour – and moving towards reality: more intimate, more accessible, more personal, which is the Mature Soul paradigm. But in order to introduce that, or to make it acceptable, it is being pulled in and focusing on the Young Soul characters willing to play that. And so while the paradigm is shifting towards more intimate, more real, less glamorized, less protected, less private, it is still being played out with Young Soul values. Do you understand what we are saying? [Comment] Yes. MEntity: And so while it may look like what's being emphasized is the Young Soul paradigm, it is being emphasized through a new lens which is the broader paradigm that will eventually find new characters. For instance, politics itself is a breeding ground and a meeting ground for Baby and Young Souls. Mature and Old Souls have no interest in politics, because it is dominated by Baby and Young Souls. However, as more examples show up in politics to show how that context can be played out in a different way, it will draw in more Mature Souls who are willing to realize that, “oh it doesn't have to be played by those old rules anymore, it can be played by new rules.” And so you will see more and more Mature and Old Souls showing up in politics. The same with your media or entertainment. While the emphasis now is seeming to be, in a lot of ways, ludicrous, obnoxious Young Soul behavior, that will grow tiresome for a while. But, it will have gotten on board the Young and Mature so that, when it shifts in focus, they will be watching. [Comment] Crafty. [Comment] Interesting. MEntity: It is also just a natural progression in a Mature Soul culture. The concept of privacy begins to degrade. In a Young Soul world, privacy is extremely valuable and extremely protected and fought for. In a Mature Soul, and especially in an Old Soul world, privacy isn't of a concern at all, because the concept of privacy falls away when there is no more shame, no more concepts of judgement, no more division based on differences, no more exploitation based on individual values. There will always need to be some measures of practical protection when it comes to individuals and your participation in the world. But the emphasis on privacy starts to fall away. So reality TV, or all of the contrived versions of reality, are still playing out that idea that all of you are being watched, all of you are willingly exposing yourselves in such things as social media. This is another step in the direction of the Mature Soul paradigm [Comment] He says as the camera is on him. [Comment] That's interesting if you think about Facebook and tweeting in that kind of context. That's a breaking down of privacy MEntity: Yes. And once again, a Mature Soul concept for instilling something is to have those participating voluntarily bring that into permanence. So such media as Twitter, Facebook, social media in general where the world is participating and willingly doing so, willingly revealing from the most meaningful to the most minutia of their lives … the concept of privacy begins to fall away and it was done so willingly. [Question] My question concerns the US food supply and what is being done to it: pumping the meat full of antibiotics, and genetically modified foods. If it is making humans more sick, and if the government is behind this deliberately, and if they're possibly in cahoots with the big Pharma companies, to get them sick and then sell them their drugs. [Comment] I think they are in cahoots MEntity: And that would reveal something about your participation and place in humanity. We do not see such a sinister element involved in that cycle. But, there is a phrase, or a cliché, that is something like, “the road to hell is paved by the best intentions,” and that would be one of the ways to describe some of what has come up as a cycle in your food industry. Genetic modifications, hormones, antibiotics, all of these had good intentions to some extent to make things more or less perishable, to make them easier to transport, to make them grow where they wouldn't normally grow. This is good. That is something that is seen as helping. However, there are long term effects that do take a toll when those things are ingested over time. What we've seen in parallel versions of the food industry, or in other planetary systems where food issues exist, is that these were short term solutions and, in the context of things, it would be in this case as well. It doesn't work for very long that these things are injected into or modified, but they do help in certain parts of the world during certain periods of time. Having that as a backup is something important for every sentient species to have at their disposal. But, to rely upon it becomes a problem and does begin to undermine the health systems of those participating over time. One of the shifts that we see occurring over a period of time is the return to small local farming and an emphasis on the importance of that, so that what can be grown in certain areas is then locally provided as much as possible. The abundance of what can be grown locally is much more than what is being speculated. At this time, the only reason why it is not sometimes seen as viable is because of the profit that can be made on lands in different ways, and the fight for who gets control of those lands. But once it becomes realized across the board that every city or every localized area must have its own food source to the capacity that it can, there will probably be, in least in these other versions we've seen, designated areas for that to be provided. So, in answer to your question, no, we do not see that this is a conspiracy. However, it is a perpetuated good intention that is not of benefit in the long run and will probably … anything that goes in that direction eventually collapses, and we see that it is on its way out. It will peak and then be stored as a possibility for certain contexts, but not something relied upon. At this point, each of you have the options of what to purchase for your food intake. The more your choices move towards the local and truly organic and so forth, the more that helps to instill it as a part of the paradigm. [Comment] Farmer's market here we come. [Question] My question is more about our relationship to nature and the planet. And it grows from all of the current events surrounding the Japan earthquake that created alarm about the nuclear reactor and the possibility of nuclear waste going into the air and the atmosphere, into the ocean, back into the earth and into the ground. And more recently here, with the Exxon Oil spill in the Yellowstone River up north, and how that is not being maintained and controlled, to, from a political standpoint or an industrial standpoint, an overproduction of things such as oil rigs and the whole oil and gas industry. It's globally saturating our planet and is exhausting our fuel supplies, and, to a certain extent, all of this kind of planet harvesting is affecting the climate. And I am not gonna say that things like global warming and the shifts in climate are completely man made events, because I know that weather patterns and climate patterns are a thing a planet goes through cycles of, millennial cycles. But, I think we are expediting or accelerating some of these cycles. So, I guess I have two questions. The first question is: I know there is a debate as to whether or not other technologically advanced societies or civilizations have been here, and for whatever reasons they died out or left or whatever. I want to know, have any of them or did any of them experience similar situations — a sort of rape of the natural world — and how did they deal with those issues as they surfaced in their civilizations? The second part to my question is: is it inevitable; is it inherent in a society's evolution? As you become more industrialized and more technologically advanced, does that have to pair with the destruction of the planet? Can you evolve without actually having to take away all of your planet's resources? MEntity: Yes. Otherwise species would not be able to finish their cycles. But, it is also not particularly uncommon to exhaust resources and have to move to another planet. That is something that some species end up having as an effect on their native environment. To try to answer your questions in order, ask them again one at a time. [Question] The first one was: if there were other civilizations in earth's history, did they also encounter circumstances of using up earth's resources too quickly or harming more than helping as they evolved? MEntity: Yes. The — what some have deemed mythological — civilization of Atlantis is a fairly recent example of what can happen when resources are exploited to an extent that they become taken for granted, or misunderstood, or misdirected. That was a pocket of Young Soul dominated culture. We realize that some romanticize it as an advanced civilization, but technological advancements are not necessarily parallel to maturity. That group of Young Souls found themselves in a position where their primary resource, which we will just refer to as power because we do not know if we have a term to describe it — it could be understood as parallel to nuclear power — found themselves in a position that literally destroyed everything. So it has happened before. A great deal of those who perished at that time are responsible for the development of the United States as a country. As part of the cyclical group karma — which is a valid concept as well; Karma can be created and generated in groups and then rebalanced in groups — they are finding themselves in positions to see examples of other disasters in the world based on the loss of control over power, or the taking for granted of the power, or the misuse of it. At least at this point, we are seeing the United States as at least establishing a momentum towards alternatives ahead of other countries as a way of “saving” or “revitalizing” the country instead of losing it, as happened in Atlantis. So it has happened before. And yes, the more a society is focused on subtle energies as a resource – or an implosive type of energy resource versus a combustible or explosive energy — as long as one or the other is emphasized as a primary source of power, it will almost always lead to some form of collapse or destruction. What hasn't been done in your species yet is the combination of the two to an extent that brings that balance as required that you would recognize as being in harmony with nature. So as more credibility is given to such advanced concepts, which were provided by such fragments as Tesla in the past, and experimented on again without the restrictions of Young Soul values, and freeing up energy to be much more available to those participating in it, then the balance may come and your species would stabilize a great deal in terms of its resources and the sharing of those. We do not know if we've completely answered your question. So we'll ask you to ask the questions again or to — [Comment] Well, you sort of answered my second question first when I was asking: in order to advance technologically or industrially, does a society have to basically use up or misuse natural resources? And I think you said no that's not the case. [Question] So, if there are species who had to leave their home planet in search for another one, can they still be Old-Souled? Were they just not very intelligent or practical, if they had to leave one planet to seek refuge on another, or can even the older souls make that mistake and have to suffer the consequences of it? MEntity: By the time a species has moved to an Old Soul paradigm, there is usually a great shift in emphasis of what is important for the day to day life, and no longer are such power resources necessary. So you would find, on planets where the population is primarily Old Soul, very humble dwellings, going back to very simple resources, living off the land, or living in an environment that has already mastered the balance between the types of resources that are available: the implosive and explosive. And so it is very rare that an Old Soul-dominated culture is in any position to have to leave. By then it has learned how to live. However, in a species such as yours that is primarily shifting from Young Soul to Mature, if something were to happen to affect your world, you would, of course, be a part of that as an Old Soul. That is where the importance of parallel universes comes to hand, because for instance, in the 1980's, there was nuclear war in one of your parallels. All of the fragments who were involved in that nuclear holocaust are tied to that parallel and working on rebuilding the planet in that version of reality. However, those of you who were in that reality who perished because of the wars that broke out simply do not return to that, but find a different version of reality to continue on. And so, even if the Young Souls “screw things up,” or the Baby Souls push and push until there is no more room for anyone to be free to be themselves, the older souls will find other versions of reality to continue their explorations. So in answer to your question, or to simplify, Old Soul cultures would not, or we have not seen them, be in that position where they would have to leave a planet. [Question] There is a question from Geraldine. She is asking about the concept of peak oil, which is defined as the point in time when the maximum rate of global petroleum extraction is reached, after which the rate of production enters terminal decline. She is asking if it is real and if it has already occurred. MEntity: Based on available or found resources, and the technology available to access those, yes that is a valid concept. However, that can shift if the technology shifts and if the means for extracting it, or the locations for extracting it, are found. So it is not a static concept, but it is a valid one within certain definitions or in certain context, and at this point, yes, there would be a decline after reaching a certain peak. However, as we said before, any time the emphasis is on one or the other resources for power, that peak will be reached and collapse. This would be an example of it. And though that peak can be extended or altered over a period of time, it is certainly not infinite. In this case, just the idea of peak oil is helping to prompt alternatives to come forth before reaching collapse, and this is one of the dynamics in place that are helping the fragments involved from Atlantis to find solutions before “too late.” Did this answer your question? [Question] I guess it did. To expand on that a little bit, I am curious about the concept of fracking: how they have been pushing to allow fracking in upstate NY. They've been trying to buy out landowners to allow them to drill for oil and gas; there's supposedly a great supply up there. So the backlash against it is because it's obviously very harmful to the environment. [Comment] And the concern is that, there are a lot of natural aquifers and water storage underground, and as they frack, the oil and gas then penetrates the water supply which then makes its way to our populations. [Question] Just the damage to the earth the (unclear) that they are doing up there just seems wrong, I think. MEntity: We do not use such terminology as “wrong” or “bad,” but we will say that it certainly is a detrimental impact and one that can only be stopped by the gathering of Mature Soul consciousness to take that on. You will find scenarios like this popping up in certain contexts where the power of Mature Soul consciousness or Mature Souls coming together can make a difference. We don't see this practice that you're describing … we see that it will be rather short-lived, because the impact is so obvious and so unwanted that the alternative is better. The alternative of running out of all of that is better than losing everything. Rather, the alternative of running out of those fuels is better than losing more vital fuels such as water and land. So that choice will be supported by the Mature Souls more than likely and taken on and righted. We say righted only in the sense that it will be put into the Mature Soul context where more is considered than just taking. Of course, that is not a prediction, it is only what we see as a natural momentum that would come up. [Question] We've all been talking recently or for a while about how poorly education is just, I mean, it's just going down into like ridiculous. Sometimes I think, “am I just a bitchy old granny, or is it really that people just don't know shit anymore?” I mean, it's just been so (unclear) to speak and then I'm thinking, “well maybe language is just evolving in a way I don't like,” you know? So, I mean, sometimes I do think is it … not is it “just me,” but is it that I am not evolving the way it is, or is it something that maybe will be corrected someway, like we'll go back to kids actually learning stuff and knowing things and not just how to push a button with their finger, or touch a screen. MEntity: Keep in mind as we talk to you about these subjects you're questioning where your perception of it is and your interpretation of it, so that you can gain insight into how you feel about your part in humanity regardless of what our response will be. [Comment] Yeah, I've established my crabby granny status. MEntity: In any transitional period of time, the concept of education is going to change. What has been in place for a long time as far as the methods for teaching, the methods for learning, and what symbolized knowing, or what symbolized being intelligent, is itself in a process of changing. In that transition, there are going to be some generations that are affected. [Comment] That's such a polite way of putting it. MEntity: However, the transition is simply adjusting to what's important, what is defined as important for a culture and defined by what is necessary. A great deal of what used to be necessary to carry around with you in your brain is no longer necessary to carry around because it can be carried around in a device. This is not to the detriment of the brain, or to the detriment of intelligence. It is simply a different way of accessing the same information. [Comment] But your phone goes dead. Your brain doesn't turn off. MEntity: Yes. However, a great deal of what is necessary to know, if your device were to go dead, would still be accessible, because what you need to know, you learn, and what you need to know is relative to your environment. [Question] Can't one argue, though, that part is not just about filling your brain with data, with information – i.e., equal knowledge – but the process is just as important? So if people are no longer learning about, or synthesizing, or drawing conclusions, or absorbing information in a way that they can convey it back out in their own terms … if they're no longer doing that because they have devices that can store information, or they have internet pages where they can go to access information, isn't there something still being lost? Isn't there an exercise there that still takes you to a higher level that's no longer being used? MEntity: The cycle that's happening right now is the shift from an emphasis of what we would refer to as the “century of debt” in the past — and we will elaborate on this at another time, but you just ended a century of debt as a platform for the world — moving into a platform that we would describe as a “century of choice.” We're speaking of arcs of experiences or themes that are a part of your species, your entire collective consciousness. So the movement is going away from debt, or even a debt-based economy, and shifting toward a resource-based economy, resource-based world, which will take some time to implement. But also, there are two things that have been a detriment, or a source of detriment, to a great deal of the population of humans as the shift into the new century has happened, and they are population and information. These two forces are probably the most detrimental forces working against humans. There is not enough, or at least not the means to provide enough, for everyone, and information flow is of such a constant that the capacity to process it is being lost. So your perception is valid. However, it ties into the evolution of humans where choice is becoming the important factor to consider. So while there is a wall or a wave of sources of information coming into a person's life, they will need to pick and choose and learn how to discern from that ocean of information. Right now you are still at the beginning stages of having that kind of access, so there are not a lot of models for how to do that. For those of you who came from a period that the discernment was already in place for you, where you were taught certain categories, you developed a brain function that allows you to do so even now to some extent. You're able to compartmentalize, focus, and choose what is important to you from the wave of information and let the rest of it go. You do not have to consume it all, and therefore what you are taking in often becomes integrated over those raised within the past twenty years or so, who may have some difficulty with that, because the world became available and there were no compartments or categories or methods for organizing that information taught. Even if it was being taught in one area of the life, as soon as those children were outside of the context of that order, it was available immediately as a wall of information again, or a wall of exposure. And so it ties into the evolution of humans and the consciousness of humans to take responsibility for choices that are being made. Again, this ties into the Mature Soul consciousness in that choices become important to consider in terms of their impact on others and their impact on yourself, not just whether they are convenient. So on the one hand, these are detriments to humans, but it is also the playground for experiences that will be one of the only ways that humans will grow up and take responsibility for choices. [Comment] How joyous that we get to be here for the beginning. And all the morons going crazy, going “Weeee! We can do whatever we want!” MEntity: There is more truth to what you say than you realize. The population growth at this time is of such a magnitude because most essences wanted to see how this shift was going to go down. [Question] Does it look like we're going from debt-based to resource-based right now? MEntity: Not yet, but the seeds are planted. In almost all probabilities that we can see, in order for the species to continue here, at least, the emphasis for a resource-based economy has to be worked out. [Question] What would that look like? MEntity: We do not know if we can describe it in a way that can convey it accurately. But, in the world where the economy — and we say that rather symbolically — is built up around a resource-based paradigm, the willingness to cooperate and contribute is amplified by profound leaps. In a resource-based economy, the natural resources — not only of the land, not only of the continents, not only of the world — are tapped into in a way that accommodates that resource rather than simply imposes on it or takes. Individuals also begin to develop that enthusiasm so that what you are good at you give, rather than just plugging yourself into a cog or a machine that makes your society run. You help to create or contribute in a way that expands on what society means and what your culture is evolving. Materials, power, and food is all distributed based on availability, rather than debt, which is based on who can afford it. [Question] So it's more like Star Trek? MEntity: Yes. [Question] Is there a way that we can make that transition without war, because, when you say that, I can just imagine this social upheaval and the blood that will be spilled In the process. Is it possible to transition in a peaceful way? MEntity: Oh yes. It's possible. It's always possible, but it depends on the education of the masses. [Comment] Oh that's going to be a problem. [Comment] Oh dear god. [Comment] It's going to be a while. We're a long way away from that. MEntity: If more Mature Souls move into positions of authority, then the Young and Baby souls who are around, who may object to it, naturally find themselves listening to those in authority. And the more Mature Souls who are in authority, the less conflict there is in authorities, and therefore they will align themselves quite naturally to whatever the authorities are saying is in their best interest. However, in this transition you are seeing more of quite a few Baby and Young Souls in positions of authority saying what the world needs and what's important. That has been in place for so long that there is an alignment with that that will be difficult to break, but not impossible. So we would think that, if there were a smooth transition, it would probably be another 50 to 100 years before anything were obviously established in that regard. However, because there is so much resistance there will probably be a reality, or version of reality, where a form of collapse occurs of civilization to an extent that the rebuilding is where the resource-based comes up from those who then can move to positions to make it happen. In that case, it would be approximately 20 to 50 years. [Question] In terms of organically growing practice, how do you avoid situations where organic farming increases the possibility of food contamination, such as the various strains of E. Coli? MEntity: One thing that we cannot do is tell you how to protect yourselves from every possible scenario of scathing that happens while being physical. So while there will be risks involved with such practices as organic food choices, they will make their way to you in no different a way than a car accident would, and in no different way than illness would, in the sense that you will still be creating your reality through your choices, through your own effects on your immune system, through your capacity to be alert and so forth. So we cannot say what will protect you from E. Coli or other threats in organic foods other than any practices of hygiene that could be in place to help prevent this, such as washing these food resources. But, those types of threats will still be there simply because the physical plane includes, as a part of the game, so to speak, the possibilities of scathing, which we use as a term to describe any kind of physical harm or emotional harm. [Question] Geneticists are getting exciting and yet dangerously close to recreating dinosaurs. Is this something that will actually come to fruition? MEntity: We've seen it, yes. It’s already been done in some versions of your timelines. The implications of it extend quite far into a great deal of medical or physical/biological benefit. When this is accomplished in those versions of reality, the emphasis moves towards the benefit, or at least those have moved toward the benefit of that capacity. However, there is, of course, the novelty aspect of it that helps to generate the funds for the more beneficial part in some instances. This is a good example of how your media, especially in terms of films or even books, plays out scenarios for humanity that actually have happened or potentially could happen. The film Jurassic Park comes from a fragment who is rather adept at peeking in among other parallels and seeing what could happen and drawing fiction from that, because there is a parallel where that similar type of amusement park occurred. [Question] What are the benefits of having dinosaurs? MEntity: We did not say there would be benefits to having dinosaurs. [Comment] They said that the medical or genetic process by which we can recreate dinosaurs would yield to us some sort of advancements or research benefits. [Comment] Oh! I was confused, I'm sorry. [Comment] Discoveries will happen along that path. [Comment] But, because billionaires want their pet dinosaurs, they'll throw billions at the program that will develop the benefits. [Comment] That part I got, I was just thinking: what was the benefit part? MEntity: There are some parallels you wouldn't necessarily recognize, if you were to leap into them as being familiar versions of earth. In the parallels where this has occurred, the incarnational process has moved from requiring birth, and the physical growing up part to be involved has shifted to some degree to simply choosing a body, because fully grown bodies will be.... [Comment] That's like from the Twilight Zone MEntity: Another fragment who can explore the various parallel options. [Question] So they would choose just fully grown cloned bodies? MEntity: Yes. The birthing process would simply be a matter of waking up in the body. Of course, regardless of how a fragment is birthed into a body, whether it be a fully grown body that has been cloned or genetically grown, there is still almost always a seven-year adjustment period that the fragment, or the essence, or the consciousness must go through in adjusting. Even in your current parallel, your current world, across all parallels, the capacity to walk into a body is rare, but still a choice that is made so that, if you are done with your body, the body doesn't have to die with your leaving the body, but another essence can step in. These are referred to as walk-ins, and the walk-ins still take seven years to adjust to being in that new body. [Comment] My friend Ryan was a walk in. And he doesn't remember most of anything of his childhood, like during seven years a big chunk of his childhood (unclear) [Comment] Was he in a coma then or just one day he woke up as a different person? [Comment] He had gotten sick as a child. MEntity: Yes. The walk-in process requires the body to go into some sort of altered state for that to occur, so that's usually in a traumatic experience, illness, coma, and so forth. But our point is that there is still a growing up process that must be experienced; it's just different. [Question] So dinosaurs won't necessarily be a bad thing? MEntity: No. It is only a novelty that these might seem such a strange possibility. But even in this parallel, you live with creatures on the planet that you will never come in contact with or be affected by. And so it is in those parallels where these have been capable of being generated or built. Many only see word of, or rather media coverage of, these rather than ever come in contact of them. We don't see any instances where there are rampages or takeovers. [Comment] No Planet of the Apes. MEntity: And quite short lived as well. As with many dangerous directions that humans take, once it's established that it can be done, it is often not returned to. [Comment] Is that why they don't cure any diseases? “Oh we could, but nah.” [Question] Can you specify how it is a danger to humanity that once we discover a process we don't return to it? MEntity: No. What we were trying to convey is that sometimes some of the more dangerous directions that are chosen, such as atom bombs or the regeneration of dinosaurs, are established as having been accomplished, and in that establishment there is no need to return to it as a resource or as a constant. It is much like a child who has been told that the stove is hot. The child will still want to touch that stove until it's proven that it's hot, and once it's burned realizes “Oh, I don't have to touch that to know that it's hot.” So does the human species, or any sentient species, often do something dangerous and destructive and then say “Oh, we don't have to do that again.” Do you understand? [Comment] Yes MEntity: So it is not dangerous in itself to go in that direction, or dangerous not to. We were describing the fact that those things deemed dangerous are often not returned to. And so the creation of dinosaurs is a short-lived experiment that proved it can be done and then is focused in a direction that is more beneficial and less about novelty. We will wrap things up then here with a round of one personal question apiece, and we will see if we can get responses for you. You may begin. Personal Questions Excluded