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Note: This session completes a 3-part topic. See Part 1 and Part 2. October 7, 1999 Troy Tolley, Channel Dreams and Symbols 3 of 3 [Michael_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. One moment. As Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] shared, we will begin by taking questions in reference to our Energy Forecast first. You may begin if there are questions. [Luna2ne] It sounds like this month is a clearing process for all of us? Before we begin work on this year's platform, and the platform for the next 1000 years? [Michael_Entity] In part, yes. It is not new though. This is no different than any other period of release. The difference now being only that there will appear to be more to release or consider or realize before moving forward. In truth, it is simply a heightened projection of meaning placed on otherwise ordinary events. You are moving into an Instinctive Centered year, and this month being the “new year” for you Older Souls, it is your first movement toward that. We say “this being the new year” in reference to this month, October, on your calendars. What would normally be a simple process, mild depression, or “the blahs”, even spaciness, will now be laced with what we called Grief. Not all you of will shed tears as a result of this process, but your bodies will certainly shed truths and import the foundations of new ones. Hence, the connection to the “next thousand years” and platforms. [MaryBV] We are all remembering our dreams this week. Is Michael referring to these when they talk about death and endings? In other words, do we need to close our past before we can move ahead to a new level of awareness? [Michael_Entity] We would not say ‘close’, instead, we would say embrace. Many of you find your pasts to be the only validity of your being. This is a distraction from your potential. We do not pass judgment, we only speak in terms of what is sought by Essence. As you, as Personality, become ever more blurred in differentiation from Essence, memories flow in dreams, in thoughts, and in fantasy, all stemming in some way from the foundations of who “you” have been. There will come a lifetime for all of you (as Essence) where full cognitive awareness of most lives, loves, and immortality is accepted, making that life the pivotal life that ties up the culmination of all that Essence seeks in this Grand Cycle. For some of you, this life is that life. For others, this life is being AFFECTED by the life that IS that life, even if in your “future” or “past”. In either case, validation is necessary on multiple levels in order to evolve. This validation will come through the sound and personal realization of the “past” and what that has contributed to your being. When we have spoken of this period of time being of Grief, it is the absorption/dispersion of long-held truths that have been generated by various selves in this life and others. This may happen in dreams. Rather than being distracted by the memories, or held in the “past” by them, the truths will be released/absorbed as PART of “you” and this could be one of your most freeing experiences then. So we say “embrace”, rather than “close”. Though we are not prone to humour as you might perceive it, we do find it humourous in your cultures to be preoccupied with weight gain, while on the Essence Levels you are always seeking to grow “bigger”. This is, after all, an expanding universe. [Azure362] Can you expand upon how the physical body will shed truths and import the foundations of new truths? [Michael_Entity] Yes. We include in the “physical body” also the environment in which the physical body resides. This would include its relationships, its foods, its health, its interactions; it’s sensation of textures, etc. If anything is rare in this process, it is the potential for this to be a period where you feel “reset”. This past year has had little substance if examined in retrospect, at least in terms of time. It was passed through quickly due to the Centering of the year. This year has acted as a literal, material filter. What will be happening throughout the month is a cleansing of that filter, an examination of what has come to pass, and a sense of freedom as this filter is freed from obstacles. We lack a better analogy at this point, but it will do. So when we say “shed truths”, it will be that which has remained in your ‘filter”, not working. When we say “import foundations for new truths”, we speak of the freedom that cleansing will have and the room gained (the filter cleansed) for new truths to reside, ‘stick with you”, so to speak. We would suggest each of you turn inward and/or look outward to find two truths that have changed for you on each level. Personal, Global, and what truths you have come closer to that are Universal. It may be revealing to see where you have become freed. On the more specific physical level, our statement literally means that some of you will change certain physical attributes in accommodation of your process. Illness may occur, or healing, whichever is more adequate to explore the new truths. Changes in diet, changes in feelings toward others, changes in how you sleep, etc. All symptoms of your personal realizations, releases, and possible grieving. The most obvious we can see occurring and prevalent is in the complete esteem each of you might have as you experience YOU. With or without external references for value or validation, each seems to have a sense of self that is sturdy and stands strong, even if alone. This is unusual, even for some of our oldest students. In short, you all seem to be loving yourselves more. We will begin the topic then. LEVELS OF DREAMING: ASTRAL LEVELS Astral Levels of dreaming are the territory of Essence. Astral Levels of dreaming are entered through one of the three lower centers, the Emotional, the Intellectual, or the Action. This is all entered from the Instinctive Center, where all dreams originate. In this state, rather than each event, object, or person being symbolic (as in the Symbolic/Instinctive Level), these become more “real”, at least to Essence. There is still an element of Symbology here, as symbology permeates almost all levels of being. Instead of the symbology representing facets of SELF, the symbology represents facets of SOUL. Where the psyche of the Personality gets to explore itself in sub-personalities while in the Instinctive/Symbolic Level, the Astral Level allows the Essence to explore itself through the actual Personalities of various lifetimes. It is in this Level that you resolve emotional Karma, strike up Agreements, update plans, engage past lives, etc. When entered through the ACTION entrance, this level is marked by great activity of course and environments become prominent. This is where you notice more WHERE you are. This is the facet where past lives are mostly played out. This is with exceptions though, and is not static, just more common. This facet is used for the “past” because Essence is more easily able to manipulate environment to resemble scenarios recalling lives as another self. The EMOTIONAL facet is the entrance where most resolution, healing, or comprehension occurs between present self and past self, or self and another fragment. It is marked by impact on you even upon waking. The Emotional Entrance of the Astral Level is marked by impact on the waking state more than other entrances. Though you may find it difficult to differentiate which actual Center is being experienced in the dream, we find these marked differences an easy way to identify if you choose. In the Emotional entrance, you scream, you fight, you cry, you laugh, sometimes even waking experiencing the same. The INTELLECTUAL facet is where you learn. This is where you, as Essence, gather information, gain insights, process the Cycle to that point, and make plans, agreements, and set up Karmic engagements. This is marked by a sense of being in what you interpret as “school”. These then are brief explorations of the three lower center entrances making up the ASTRAL Level of dreaming. We remind you that this is an evolving body of information through this channel and others and we suggest reading all transcripts to grasp the continuity. We will take questions now. [ksh] Does the soul exist on different levels i.e. the Tao level, astral, casual etc? [Michael_Entity] Yes. Of Course. Would you like to elaborate on your question? [ksh] Can we connect with those souls? Do they have a separate intelligence? [Michael_Entity] Intelligence as you know it is no longer a factor on some Higher Levels. We remind you we use “higher and lower” only as a convenience, not a truth. [ksh] How do we communicate with them ? [Michael_Entity] These “higher” parts of “you” (and by “you” we mean Essence) do not have a sense of separateness, though to “you” as Personality, of course, you would seek contact AS IF it is separate. Some of our own channels are working with “you” on this level as even we speak now. For instance, our channel known as Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] to you is working with his own collective Energy Ring as a consciousness. This would be likened to your future selves, collective. We do not have a “how” at this point to share within this space. We may address this in another context later. But yes, “you” exist on all of those levels and can be accessed. [Sandra51] Questions directed to the topic of the Levels of Dreaming. [Suzee] Is the feeling of anxiety present in dreams part of the emotional entrance? [Michael_Entity] This would depend on certain factors. Anxiety can sometimes be the waking state’s interpretation of any level of dreaming. Upon leaving a dream, the waking personality might infuse its present uncertainty on the memory of the dream, even if not actually felt within the dream. Aside from this possibility, anxiety would be more the result of being in the Emotional entrance, yes. More often though, as we spoke of, the waking INTELLECT that cannot reason the Emotional entrance’s experiences creates the anxiety AFTER waking. [FloorDog] The Element water is commonly associated with the astral. I’m curious as to the meaning of water in astral dreams, especially large bodies? I find in many dreams I seek them out and take pleasure in immersing myself in them, especially surf. Would you say this is the action entrance? (assuming they are astral in nature)? [Michael_Entity] If the element of water is to be interpreted symbolically on its own, it is most likely within the Instinctive Level. If it is part of a landscape of the Astral, which can be differentiated by the thoroughness and detail of the landscape/environment, then it is part of the Emotional elements of the past or present explored. It is safe to assume, if the Level is clearly Astral, that any element (predefined in your culture) that relates to a Center is that Center being explored WITHIN the context of that Level of dreaming. For instance to be submerged in WATER (emotional) in a ACTION environment (with the landscape and scenery being the prominent factor), then it might be safe to assume you are exploring the emotional part of the moving center. We will take personal questions now to the best of our ability at this time. It is advised by Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] that you consider the group and time constraints. [TCB] You mentioned about the energy ring consciousness, What was my dream about the ‘energy ring’ with Barry, and some others, that I didn’t recognize? [Michael_Entity] This was a personal definition, different than ours, speaking of the connections between yourself and presently incarnated connections. It is information about your Configuration. A Septant. This may be validating or not, but we are limited in what is available about this dream at this time. [MaryBV] I would like Michael to comment on the memory of my kneeling on a cold, stone floor in a cathedral surrounded by my women. What life am I remembering and is this an example of a past life memory done through the emotional astral entrance? I don’t need a blow by blow account, just a very brief comment. [Michael_Entity] This would be the ACTION entrance, Astral Level. This is a valid lifetime memory accounting for that life’s experience of its Overleaves as parallel to this life. The women, as we see it, were all the selves from past incarnations and future sharing the same Goal. That life is the pivotal advisor for the “best” expression of the Goal. [Sandra51] Personal Questions… Nemo999 [nemo999] Thanks, how can I let go of negativity [Michael_Entity] You cannot. We would rarely say something that appears so condemning, but it is a truth in your universe that it must be explored as a path to what you might call your “positivity”. What you call “negativity” presently are simply judgments on the process. You are merely EXPERIENCING. If there is resistance to experience, “negativity” results. In your case, we suggest you listen carefully to feedback. There is little listening happening in your life, only sensitivity and defense. Remind yourself that you are safe, if you wish to hear your world’s answers to freedom. [nemo999] How then can I see that I am safe? [Michael_Entity] By choosing to see through your own eyes. Someone else taught you to feel insecure and vulnerable. That was their truth, not yours. This month may be your month to turn that around. It is no longer necessary to pay homage to another’s idea of you. In every instance, stop to determine if you feel ‘safe’. If you do not feel safe, DECIDE to feel safe in your decision, even if not completely convinced. It is a start. [Azure362] My back has spasmed out like it used to do over 20 years ago. This seems to be a “repeat” lesson of sorts or is it a truth I am resisting, or shedding, or what? [Michael_Entity] It's simply an old truth revisited. It is not a repeat lesson. It is one you never realized you “kept around” for good measure. It has always lurked in your background as a means for “excuse” if needed. You have determined that it is no longer valid through your revisiting. It will pass, if we are correct in our perception. Your intake of water will help on the physical level. This is in relation to your material world, security issues and finances. It is time for you to rest assured you are safe on that level. [Luna2ne] What is my brother’s family Ikon? What is my family Ikon? [Michael_Entity] Brother: “the extravagant” You: “the Satellite” We do not profess that this is accurate as we would need to focus more on you directly. This might be only a facet of the Ikon. [TCB] Septant configuration. What are we doing, life task work? Can you elaborate just a bit? [Michael_Entity] Yes, only slightly; conscious validation of essence contact seems to be the task, or part of it. Again, we are limited in this context for deeper explorations. Again, this is a start. We will now conclude. Goodnight.
MICHAEL SPEAKS 120207 Open Floor QUESTION : WHEN TROY POSTED THE CHIEF FEATURES OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, HE SAID THE AKASHIC FEATURES WERE BEING ACCESSED, HAVE NOT HEARD MENTION OF THIS DISTINCTION, CAN YOU CLARIFY? MICHAEL: Through some of our channels and students it has become clear, through questioning and observation, that there are three versions of an individual's Essence and Personality Profile: the Private Version (that which you wish for your Overleaves to be), the Public Version (that which others assume you are), and your Akashic, or True Overleaves, which are on record and may or may not coincide with the projected overleaves (private) and/or the expected overleaves (public). These variations have always been in effect due to variations of clarity among channels, but only recently have the channels begun to truly explore the apparent discrepancies. All three can lend insights to a Personality and a life, so we do not imply that one is better than another. They are simply different angles of approach to understanding the Personality. In many cases, for instance, regarding public figures, our channels and students often interpret the fragment by the persona seen through the filters of media, thus interpreting aspects of the profile to fit those observations, instead of reading the True Overleaves. QUESTION: For the chief features, though, I don't understand. Since, supposedly, according to Michael, it is a pivotal event that is the catalyst to put us into our chief feature and it is not pre-chosen? MICHAEL: You are correct. Chief Negative Features are not pre-chosen. This, however, has nothing to do with an individual's interpretation of himself or his interpretation of another person versus the Akashic version of either. We will give you an example: A fragment in Arrogance may not see himself as Arrogant, but sees himself as Impatient, since he equates his quick judgment of people as a form of intolerance. Still others may interpret him as Stubborn because he avoids intimate situations and does not budge from that stance. Those interpretations from the self or from others does not change the fact that on record his fears are rooted in Vulnerability, or Arrogance. Each version will lend insight, especially if understood within the proper context. It is Good Work to understand how others see you, and how you see yourself, and how you ARE. That is triad of self. QUESTION: Like so many others, we work thru life issues in dreams. Intense dreams with water....flooding. dark, raging storms or instant floods...swim through...waking up up very emotionally spent. Please explain the flooding in dreams. thank you. MICHAEL: It is true that one level of dreaming is for the processing of events. In many cases the universal symbols are used to work through these events, such as Water equating levels of emotions. It could be said, then, that these descriptions you lend to your symbol of water are equated with the same descriptions you would give to some obvious experiences of emotion (or fears) in your waking life. However, what tends to be even more insightful in your dreaming is your position relative to the symbol. If you are drowning, the "meaning" can be very different from if you are managing a rocking ship. It is always a more direct and accurate route of dream interpretation for the individual to write down what the symbols mean to himself or herself and then put it back into the context of the dream and assess how those symbols interact with each other and the dreamer. In general, though, water is often used by fragments to symbolize emotions, or the lower astral plane (emotional plane). QUESTION: I've been reading a lot of previous groups' postings from the Michael groups and have answered more than one of my questions; however, "essence mates," from other grand cycle ETs, remains inexplicable. Can you elaborate on them and the role they play in many of our current lives or cycles, and conversely our role in theirs? MICHAEL : They rarely play a significant role beyond the opportunity for Essence Recognition, which is the only form of true evolution. In that regard, they are highly significant, but that is not exclusive to an Essence Mate; all fragments with which you have had past contact are potential opportunities for Essence Recognition. Essence Mates could be likened to an "Ex" with which you have had a relationship that ran its course and transitioned positively with total closure; the nostalgia and resonance is warm and soft, with undertones of deep appreciation, but no charge; no intensity. Spending an entire Grand Cycle with a fragment leaves even the "spark" with the "memories." This is because a Grand Cycle to your Essence/Spark is like a single lifetime is to your Role, taking with it the memories most resonate and impactful. An Essence Mate can often be included in the new cycle as a significant relationship again within this new context, but that is a relationship between Roles, not the Sparks, and "Essence Mate" refers to the Sparks' relationship. We will include here that what we mean by "Essence Recognition" is the profound "knowing" that one has a relationship with another fragment or self beyond the present version. We will also include the note that, while "Essence" and "Role" are often used interchangeably, they are technically different: the Essence takes on a Role, hence your Essence Role, or Role in Essence, but your Essence, itself, does not have a Role. QUESTION: More like Traveling Companions? MICHAEL: No, Traveling Companions are yours because of current-cycle mathematical associations. Essence Mates do not necessarily have any mathematical resonance and ties. They are simply remembered. QUESTION: My question concerns identifying Input sources when one is receiving information/energy from a source beyond one's self, whether in channeling, tarot, dreams, etc. I once had a dream in which Michael said, "Every time you have thought it was us, it was us." Could you give me specific ways that a student who is openly seeking contact might know when they have contact with the Michael entity, as opposed to their Essence, guides, or other teachers? In what ways might we experience Michael's influence in our daily lives, when the channels are not around? MICHAEL : We try to be as present as possible for all who call upon us, even if the channel is a "fraud" and even if the student is "delusional." We are aware of when any of you call upon us. Our presence, however, is as clear through a channel, or to a student, as that person is with himself or herself. This is why many of you who begin accessing higher sources of contact (for lack of a better phrase), whether this is us, or your own "Higher Self," the voice or energy "sounds like you," or feels like your own imagination. This is because it is a necessary part of the process in clearing out a channel to a higher source that you first clear out all of your own ideas, prejudices, and presumption about what should happen or what should be the responses to your inquiries. One of the easiest and most direct ways of learning to differentiate our energy from your own is to go ahead, freely, with your use of imagination as your form of contact. Imagination is the highest frequency owned by a physical fragment and its use is entirely misunderstood by many, at least in terms of its use for "extra-sensory" perceptions. As you keep track of your contact, you will begin to notice glimpses of validation for contact with us that are clearly not "you." There is not as easy a differentiation when accessing your Higher Self (Essence), however, as that IS you to a great degree. But that is not your question, so we will not elaborate at this time. We can also add that many of our channels and students interpret our energy as Blue, as a Crowd, as literal images of Kings/Warriors, and as a sphere of some kind. These are only a few examples, but each finds his or her own means of interpreting us. We've seen our energy interpreted by your dreams as a medallion in the past. QUESTION: Hello Michael! I was really fascinated by last month's message about how to develop one's communication with Michael. Can you elaborate on the part about how to build strength in the axes where we lack emphasis in our charts? MICHAEL: Yes. This is already in the works with Troy in his posting an "MBlog" entry soon, which will elaborate on this. A response to your question will be found there. QUESTION: We've had discussion threads about the different feel to different Channels of You. Is the primary difference due to different fragment groups being accessed within You? MICHAEL: We have elaborated on this question in the past, and will include it with Troy's edited transcript of this session. This may shed a great deal of light on your question. (NOTE: see excerpt added at end of transcript) We can say to you now, however, that the accessing of various groups of fragments among us through different channels has the least significance in what you experience as differences. This is often used to explain the differences, but it has little, if no bearing. We are a reunited entity and speak as one, regardless of the representative speaking for us. We are not fragmented into groups and we do not run our communications among us from separate "cubicles" that do not interact or share the same perception. We do not have various personalities and we do not have different things to say from among us. These explanations are conveniences created from various levels of understanding of the process of channels as a means to explain discrepancies and variations of feel and expression, but they are not valid. The primary differences are found in the level of agreement with us for communicating our teaching and the level of presence from the personality conveying our energy, whether verbally or non-verbally. We will conclude here. Good day to all of you. Goodbye. ADDITIONAL CHANNELING: QUESTION: Please elucidate on the type of channeling agreements you have with students, Michael? MICHAEL: We have three tiers of Agreements with fragments who work with us in the form of “Channeling.” “Primary Students” are those fragments with whom we share Agreements that extend across many lifetimes and, of course, from before birth for this current lifetime. Our teaching is used by these students as one of their primary philosophies, if not their only philosophy. “Primary Channels” are those fragments with whom we share Agreements that extend across lifetimes and, of course, from before birth for this lifetime to use our teaching as a primary philosophy, and to help impart our teaching as a primary philosophy by giving us a medium of expression into the physical plane to our Primary Students. “Secondary Students” are those fragments with whom we share no original Agreement, but we develop an Agreement to accommodate their experimental exposure to our teaching. These fragments will most likely take only parts of our teaching as needed and not use it at a primary philosophy. “Secondary Channels” are those fragments with whom we share no original Agreement to act as our channel, but we develop an Agreement to accommodate these fragments who feel a strong drive to build their own teaching upon our philosophy. (note: Michael has said that most of their channels come from this category) “Tertiary Students” are those fragments with whom we share no original Agreement and the student may never find valid contact with a channel, but we develop an Agreement to help guide in the use of our teaching as they might choose to use it as a guide for a period of time. “Tertiary Channels” are those fragments with whom we share no original Agreement, and these fragments do not have valid verbal channeling skills, but we develop an Agreement to help build those skills, even as he or she may grossly misrepresent himself, herself, or our teachings. In other words, anyone claiming to channel us will automatically find a connection to us, though their ability to hear or convey us may be severely limited, despite their eagerness and sense of connection to us. These channels are most often noted for the valid and powerful "energy work" that is felt from us when working through them, even as the verbal channeling is lacking in clarity or accuracy. “Regulators” are those fragments with whom we have Agreements (which may or may not have been generated before birth) to not only gather tangible records of all works offered by our Primary and Secondary Channels, but to help question, authenticate, and validate (and invalidate) this material. In some cases, there are overlapping Agreements, such as an Agreement to be a Regulator while also being a Primary Channel or Student. Ultimately, we come to all who ask. Our teaching is accessible to anyone.