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20140126 NYC Michael Speaks: Wants & Needs of Essence Roles


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Transcribed by Eric Mielke with help from Ingun D


NYC Michael Speaks: on Wants and Needs of Essence Roles, January 26, 2014


MEntity: Hello to everybody.


We are here now. We understand that Troy has asked for us to discuss what we might describe as the WANT and the NEED of each Essence Role, so we've looked at this in a way that we hope will be easy to validate for each of you and your Roles.


This angle of approach to the Roles in terms of wants and needs has been covered in various ways, but today we will speak to you specifically in those terms. We will define the WANT of a Role as being a more consciously accessible form of navigation throughout the life. Regardless of your Goal, or your positive pole, or the rest of your overleaves, this will still be a guiding factor for you throughout your lifetime, especially the more you become in touch with your Essence, in touch with your Role, and the more it is manifested. It will probably still be there regardless of how conscious you are of your Role, but it may be less obvious the less conscious you are of your Role.


Now, we know that Casting will probably be something some of you consider as we go through these wants and needs, and these can be factored in, but we suggest that you stick to your Essence Role for how powerful and relevant the wants and needs are. The Casting will still have some relevance, but we suggest that you use your Role as a way to explore these wants and needs as we describe them. 
We will define needs as a more subconscious form of navigation throughout life.


So as you become more aware of what it is that you want in the life, there will always be the needs that are a counterpart to your navigation. You cannot function within a lifetime, in terms of navigating it, by wanting alone. Nor can you leave it only up to your subconscious navigation in terms of needs.
 Eventually, the whole individual will recognize, to some degree, their wants and their needs.


When we describe to you your needs relevant to your Role, this does not mean that you need to bring them to a conscious level on a regular basis. Just being aware of them and validating that that is an essential subconscious form of navigating for you can free you greatly in your experiences and navigation throughout the life.


You do not have to do any extra work for those needs to be fulfilled. The differences between needs and wants is that wants you tend to have to actively seek to fulfill. Needs will be fulfilled in some way. Often, when they are not owned and recognized, needs can be fulfilled in negative ways or in challenging ways.


So when you are assessing the needs as we describe them, look at your life and see if you can see a pattern in your history that shows how the need has been fulfilled in negative or in positive ways. The same will go for wants as well as you pursue what it is that you want. Sometimes this is pursued in positive ways, and by this we mean in ways that are beneficial to you and anyone else involved, and sometimes in negative ways, in ways that set you back or fulfill you on superficial levels that leave you wanting more.


Which brings us to the point that these wants and needs are a permanent form of navigation. There is no finish line for their being fulfilled. They will just be fulfilled to certain degrees and then moved on to be fulfilled to further degrees. There is no endpoint in your pursuit, and as we describe the wants and needs, and as you assess your life and experiences regarding them, you may see where in the past they were fulfilled in different ways than what you might expect them to be fulfilled now.


This is true of everything in our system by the way. That is why there can be 7 Goals shared among billions and pursued in a multitude of ways that is quite unlimited because of the factor of choice in your unique individuality. And so it is with the wants and needs.


Before we go into the descriptions that we can offer for the wants and needs of the roles, we will ask you if you have questions so far about the entire dynamic of wants and needs in general.


[Comment] I guess not


MEntity: We will continue then.


We will start with the SERVER, and describe the WANTS of a Server:


The more conscious motivating factor for the Server would be their want to be HELPFUL.
 More specifically, to be effective. The server wants to matter.


For those of you who have Server casting, you may relate to this of course, and in general these wants and needs are going to be relevant to all of you. But, when it is your Role, it should, if we are accurate in our assessment, ring quite profoundly true for you in particular.


So for the Servers who are listening to this, it should ring quite true that it is a consciously motivating factor in their lives to want to make a difference, to be effective, to help.


What the Server NEEDS, and is subconsciously motivated by in terms of navigation throughout the life, is TO BE HELPED, to be affected, to have someone else make a difference for them.


If you know any Servers who feel that they are ineffective, not making a difference, you often find that they have fallen into the struggle to fulfill the need for someone else to affect them, to help them, to make a difference for them. Often they can be stuck there until they allow that to happen, or until they navigate to someone who is effective enough in their own life.


To be effective or to be affected are not in contradiction to each other and they are not mutually exclusive, and as we describe the rest of the wants and needs, they still will apply for all of the Roles. But if one is neglected more than the other it will tend to dominate in your navigation more than the other.


We will speak to the PRIESTS now:


What Priests WANT and are more consciously motivated by in terms of navigation is TO GUIDE.
 Priests want to Guide. They want to steer and want to orient others in a direction that they have deemed to be of most benefit to that individual or group. So what we would describe for the Priest in terms of want, is the WANT TO GUIDE.


What the Priest often NEEDS and is subconsciously motivated by, in terms of navigation is, DETACHMENT, to step back. The Priest needs to lose the investment in what it is that they wish to guide or what it is that they are trying to steer. When Priests fulfill that need to detach, to step back from, they become much more capable of guiding.


For those of you in this room participating, as we cross your Role, feel free to speak up in terms of validating or questioning the Role as we are speaking about it. The Priests in the room: do you have comments or questions?


[Question] Does detachment have something to do with personal obligation or personal attitude; would it mean that we have to take it less personal?


MEntity: Yes. By detachment, that is exactly how we would further phrase that: to not take it, to take things, so personally; to step back from it; to distance; to create that differentiation between that which you are guiding and your being a guide.


Because the Priests are inspirational Roles, it's very easy to fall into the confusion between Projection and Reflection. The way we differentiate these two words is that Reflection allows to you empathize with another person or a group. It allows you to see the bigger picture and see yourself in that bigger picture, whereas Projection (which is very easy for the Priest to do) is to impose their vision on the group so they are no longer individuals, or an individual, involved. It's more about what the Priest thinks is best.


So when you can detach, it's much easier to move into that state of reflection where you see yourself reflected, but not projected on to them. Do you understand the difference? Do you find this to be valid for you?


[Comment] Yes


MEntity: As we progress we also open up to questions that we know are available through the chatroom if there are any regarding the Roles, if they are appropriate.


Next we will move on to the ARTISANS:


Artisans are consciously motivated by the WANT for ORDER, for STRUCTURE. This may not always seem obvious for many Artisans, but they are always striving in some way to put things in order, to keep things in order, to keep things straight. This is mostly because of the multiple inputs that an Artisan has, so it becomes quite essential for the Artisan to navigate the life by keeping some form of order and structure.


So what they WANT is ORDER and STRUCTURE.


What the Artisan NEEDS and what they are subconsciously motivated by is RECOGNITION. More than any other Role — including Sages, believe it or not — the Artisans need recognition, need to be recognized, need to be honored in some way that validates their existence, even more so than the Server.


We think this is because Artisans are so consistently straddling the creative forces that are churning, so to speak, beyond the tangible and working very carefully, or chaotically, to bring it into form. That recognition brings them feedback that lets them know that what they are creating or what they are putting into form is being seen, is being received.


Are there any Artisans who would like to comment or validate these wants and needs?


[Question] I definitely resonate with what you're saying. I'm wondering for me at least if there's, in my wants to create order, this inherent emotional connection to it … striving for the aesthetic, striving for beauty. Is it perhaps necessary, similar to a Priest, is it necessary sometimes — in order to make the best decision — to find some sense of detachment. Because maybe when you are so emotional, you are personally invested in what you are trying to accomplish that you are losing some objectivity, and that you do need to move yourself from it?


MEntity: That may be the case, but not as much it would be for the Priest, at least in the context of your question. In the context of this topic and the context of your question, we would say turn to your need. Your want for order needs to be recognized. Once it is recognized, once the form that you have brought out of the chaos is recognized and honored and (we do not like this word, but we will use it here loosely) respected, it is far easier for you to let go of the necessity for order. It is far easier for you to allow room for the chaos if you feel that that necessity, that want for order, is recognized. It is only when that is not recognized, when that becomes more of a priority, more of a defense, more of an importance to you.


Do you understand?


[Comment] Yes


MEntity: We want to pause here for a moment to say that these needs are also capable of being fulfilled by yourself. They're not dependent on other people. It's nice when others, other fragments, are able to contribute, but you are not stuck meandering through life waiting for someone to recognize you. You can also bring that recognition to yourself. You can also recognize that you have brought order, and that it is beautiful, and that it is enough for now and to allow room for some chaos.


Order to an Artisan is the equivalent of Beauty, because Beauty is basically the recognition of patterns within chaos, and in the case of Artisans, often the deliberate maneuvering of patterns to bring that Beauty out of chaos. Do you understand?


[Comment] Yes.


MEntity: So to further respond to your question as far as detachment and stepping back: recognize that the order and the Beauty that you have sought to bring is actually there and not something that you must continually sustain at all costs. That is the form of “detachment” for you, is that recognition. And if we are unclear, feel free to speak up and ask for clarity.


[Comment] I'm clear.




This may seem obvious, but the WANTS of a Sage, and the consciously motivating form of navigation throughout the life, is the want to COMMUNICATE. More elaborately, we would say “to be seen” and “to be heard.” We prefer the term “communicate” because, ultimately, it is not just about being seen and heard, it is about seeing and hearing as well. It is about creating that circuit of communication, that experience of exchange. So a Sage will always find, underneath all other motivations as a foundation, that want to communicate, to be seen and heard and to see and hear, to truly have dialogue, to truly have exchange.


This should be quite obvious in terms of the Sage, but often what is subconsciously motivating a Sage, and what they NEED, is AFFECTION. More than any other Role, Sages crave affection the most. They benefit the most from physical proximity and touch and contact. This does not mean they want you to fondle them without invitation necessarily, but that they have, even more so than Artisans, a difficult time feeling present in the world. They may seem present, and they may seem quite aware of themselves, and they are, but it is difficult for them to not have some form of physical contact, some sort of physical proximity, if this goes on too long. Hugging a Sage is much easier than hugging a King.


So when a Sage recognizes that he or she is subconsciously motivated by that need for affection, it could help explain a lot of why they gravitate towards certain relationships, certain scenarios. Even if they are completely out of their element, if that need is being fulfilled in that arena, or in that relationship, or in that exchange, they will gravitate towards that even over a great conversation, if that need is lacking.


For the Sages among us, do you have comments or feedback?


[Question] Well I have a question. So if you maybe are feeling like you aren't getting those things, or getting them … wait let me organize my question. So it would be easy to utilize, like, sex to get affection, but it's not really a very positive thing, and it would sort of be like the negative pole of it, if you're doing it really just to fulfill that need?


MEntity: Not necessarily. Your judgment of it, of sex as a way of fulfilling affection, may make it less fulfilling. But recognizing that you may gravitate towards sex as a way of fulfilling your need for affection will help you to make choices that may be more meaningful to you in terms of fulfilling affection.


[Question] I don't feel that it's unfulfilling. I'm just saying that I wondered if it was, maybe, not as positive, or if there would be a better way to obtain it.


MEntity: We will say that if it turns into something that is a compulsion that cannot be controlled, and possibly moving into a form of addiction that is harmful to you, then yes, you might deem it to be a negative form of fulfilling that need. But if it is bringing pleasure, and is not harming, then it is a valid form of fulfilling that need.


We want to remind you that we said, as you progress throughout your lifetime and you evolve your pursuit of your needs and your wants, the necessities for the degree of fulfillment will change. So then sex may not fulfill that need for affection at some point in your life, and you may have to either move away from that as the source and look to other sources, or move to become more inclusive of other sources, such as literally reaching out to those that are close to you, and hugging more, and snuggling more. We are not speaking in terms of affection only being in physical touch, but affection in our definition is about resonance, is about —


[Comment] Intimacy?


MEntity: We would not say intimacy in this case. We will say simply resonance: that you like who you are with, that you like who you are when you are with them, which is often different from intimacy in this case.


[Question] The Venus appearance body type has a great craving for touch too. How would this be distinguishable from the Sage's need for touch?


MEntity: They may not be. It may be difficult to differentiate those two. However, the Venus body type will probably be more inclined to naturally evoke this than a Sage without the Venus body type. A Sage without that body type may be more inclined to neglect that need. So we will say that, if you are a Sage with a Venus body type, you probably have an easier time fulfilling that need for affection than a Sage with a different body type. Does this answer your question?


[Question] Can I interject? Speaking of Venus … using your phrase of “hugging a Sage is much easier than hugging a King,” what about a King who is primarily a Venusian body type?


MEntity: We don't want to complicate these combinations too much by going through all the body type combinations with the role. But since the Venus body type does tend to move in that direction quite strongly, then it would still be important to the King, but it would just be important in a different way. It would show up in a different way. There would still be that craving for affection, that desire for affection, but it would not necessarily be a need. It would be something that would be more approached through a controlling and strategic or mastered path. Do you understand?


[Question] Does the craving for affection have anything to do with craving belonging, a sense of belonging?


MEntity: That might be another way of describing what we were using in terms of being present, yes. The belonging is a little more emotionally charged than the term “present” in this case in terms of what we are trying to convey here. The Sage does not necessarily need to feel as if he or she belongs, but they often do feel as if they do not have a presence, that they are not seen and heard in a way that is grounded. We can't think of another, more appropriate word than “present.” Belonging could be a part of that dynamic of their definition of present, but there is a little bit more of an emotional charge to that term than what we would like to convey by using the word present.


We will turn to the Sages to ask if you find a difference between being present and belonging, or if you feel the differentiation yourselves.


[Comment] Well I do. I don't think there's a huge difference, I think it's very subtle, because I feel like I belong in certain aspects. But remaining present in the times where I don't feel like I belong is very different, like at work or something where I'm around people that are very casual, as opposed to my close family. There is definitely a difference then. I don't feel as much of a belonging there, but I can feel present.


[Comment] I think it's easier to be present when you feel that you are someplace that you belong. If you don't feel like you belong in a situation or in a place, then I think that, personally, yeah, you tend to go to the future or to the past — to imaginings, you know?


MEntity: What you may have touched on then is an extension of what is required for them to feel present and that would be, in some cases, that sense of belonging. The reason why we differentiated is because we know many Sages and they do not necessarily need to feel as if they belong in a group of people for them to feel present. But there may be circumstances where that is a defining factor.


[Comment] Yeah, because I definitely do not feel like I belong with the people that I work with. I mean, I cope with it, but I don't belong in any way. But I definitely make an effort to be present a lot of the time. Not 100%, but it is more of an effort to be present there than it is to be present here.


[Question] Is present like showing off a little bit, in a good sense?


[Comment] No, it's just being completely, consciously aware and in that moment and present in my body. Or even not even mattering if I'm showing it, just being.


MEntity: We might add, in response to your question, that there is a confidence that can be a defining factor in how present a Sage may feel.


[Comment] Yeah, I don't really lack any of that.


[Question] I have a question tied to what Cyprus said about sex. If a sage doesn't experience the act of sex as affectionate, will they experience the fulfillment of the need for affection?


MEntity: That is up to you. You would find ways for that to be fulfilled in other ways. There are a multitude of ways, probably some that we might not even come up with, that a Sage could feel the need of affection to be fulfilled. It is not in any way tied to or dependent upon sexual interaction. Did this answer your question?


[Question] Um, no. I don't know if I misunderstood you, but I'm talking strictly about if sex is not affectionate sex, if it's just a physical friction experience, does the Sage have that need for affection fulfilled by that act?


MEntity: Again that would be up to you.


[Comment] It doesn't seem like you would. I mean, in my experience, you're determining whether it's fulfilled or not, not something external.


MEntity: Correct


[Comment] So if you don't feel fulfilled by it, then it wouldn't be fulfilling. And I mean, whatever I have done in the past, I have always liked and it's always been fulfilling to me, so I think I do get the affection from that.


MEntity: Yes


[Comment] But I thought that needs in this conversation, in this terminology, is an unconscious thing.


MEntity: Correct and we think that your answer was in your own question. If you are describing it as not fulfilling, or if it is not sensed as affectionate or experienced as affectionate, it is probably a place you are looking for it and not finding it.


[Comment] Okay, that makes sense.


MEntity: Yes, it is extended masturbation if you are purely aiming for the experience of friction only. However, masturbation can also be a form of affection. So it is purely up to your experience and your sense of presence in the exchange that may determine your level of affection shared. Any further questions or clarifications on the question that was asked?


Next we will speak to Warriors:


The WANT of the Warrior, the conscious motivation and navigation, can be described as … we need one moment here … we were just assessing the differences in the terms that we might present here, and we will go with the word COMMITMENT, though we may change that word. We're not finding the exact word we're looking for in this channel at the moment. It could also be “loyalty” but that is further from what we are intending to say. So we will go with “commitment” at this point, that the conscious motivation, the WANTS of a Warrior, tend to lean toward COMMITMENT.


There tends to be full on commitment by the Warrior: commitment to a person, commitment to a cause, commitment to responsibilities. This want is not just in terms of their personal navigation, but in terms of what is expected of others as well: that commitment to be reciprocated, mutual commitment. If someone has a term that describes mutual commitment to help us get that through more succinctly, you are free to speak up. But we will describe it as mutual commitment.


This is vital to the Warrior in terms of Wants for the navigation of the life. They will move in directions where there are those mutual commitments capable of being fulfilled.


What the Warrior NEEDS, and will tend to subconsciously navigate toward, is HUMILITY. Warriors, more so than any other roles, tend to fall into positions of self-questioning regarding the level of commitment that is being experienced in their navigation of the world. Humility is that experience that puts them into a position to assess more accurately what they were expecting, what they were anticipating, what they were strategizing for, what they were looking for.


So what they WANT is MUTUAL COMMITMENT and what they NEED is HUMILITY. We're using that word quite specifically because the Warrior whose expectations are failed or found to be in need of adjustment can often experience this as a result of overshooting or undershooting in terms of mutual commitments. When they find themselves in that position that humility is being explored and fulfilled, they are much more likely to communicate more clearly what was expected, more clearly what it was that they wanted, much more clearly what it is that they would like to bring to that relationship of commitment. So humility puts them back into a position of necessity to speak up about, or to clarify, their definitions of mutual commitment.


[Question] Would “support” be a word that could be used?


MEntity: In place of what? Mutual Commitment?


[Comment] Mutual Commitment I guess.


MEntity: We would still have to say “mutual support” then.


[Comment] Cooperation?


MEntity: That is a little too detached. There is a …


[Question] What about submission? How is that different from commitment?


MEntity: Submission, in terms of the Goal, is a search for something to be devoted to, to treat as a worthy cause towards which you turn yourself over to. So in terms of mutual commitment versus submission, there is much more of an expectation of reciprocation than when there is submission. Does this clarify?


[Comment] Yes.


MEntity: Again, if we are to use “devotion” we would still say “mutual devotion” so we will leave it at “mutual commitment” for now, although it could be “mutual” many different terms that indicate commitment, support, devotion. It's the mutuality that is key here. We feel we are missing a word, but we may not be. We may just be working through Troy's brain. Any questions or comments about the Warriors? Or from the Warriors?


[Question] So is the Warrior needing to experience humility in another, or is it humility in himself or herself?


MEntity: Again it goes in both directions. It depends. That humility may be something looked for in another or experienced from the self … more often than not in the self. But it is also a form of bonding if another expresses that or displays a form of humility to that Warrior.


[Question] Can you please clarify Humility?


MEntity: In this case, we are using that term to describe the need to own and clarify one's expectations and anticipations so that humility is felt when those are not met and the breaking down of that sense of mutual commitment comes into play. It's often because the Warrior forgot, or did not own, or did not communicate the expectations of that mutual commitment. So they fall into humility. In other words, they have to take responsibility for it. They learn to take responsibility for those expectations in terms of mutual commitment.


[Comment] That sounds like being humbled and disappointed at the same time?


MEntity: That is one way of describing it, yes.


[Question] How much does a discarnate ET impact the incarnate fragment in terms of wants and needs?


MEntity: It may. We would say that ultimately you'll turn to your role for exploring this subject and leave out the relationships with other roles. There may be some influence, but you would still want to look to your own role. So you may find yourself navigating in terms of your Essence Twin's influence in your life, but that would not be your navigation. It is just an influence on your navigation. So still turn back to your own role.


And as we said, all of that we are describing in terms of wants and needs is probably applicable to all of you in some form, but when it is your role, it will … our intention is to find the words that will ring profoundly true to that role. In other words, you may say “I can relate to these others, but wow, this really makes sense to me.”


Next the Kings:


Kings are consciously motivated by the WANT for INDEPENDENCE. There is a sense that they must hold their own, that they must fulfill that want in many different ways that all are associated with the term “independence.” We will say that that term is often defined differently among our different Kings, even among those in our own entity. We had our differences in what we considered “independent” and it is quite often contextual to the lifetime. But the King will tend toward that as a form of navigation, to want to fulfill their sense of independence, their sense of self-sufficiency, their sense of being their primary resource. This does not necessarily mean that they have to do this in any insular way, but they often do, cutting themselves off from others as a way of displaying or exemplifying their independence, but that is not necessary.


That is why their NEED, and what they are subconsciously motivated by, is INTIMACY.


[Comment] Wow. Look at that. Hooking up with the Sages!


[Question] I feel independence, and this has been something that's been driving me crazy because of the contextual aspect of me being young and still supported by my family. Um, that factor made me actually doubt whether I'd even finished/exited my third internal monad in the positive pole. But you said it's not necessary to cut myself off? Because right now that's all I've been desperately trying to do.


MEntity: To cut yourself off as a form of independence?


[Comment] Yes.


MEntity: No, that is not … as we said, there are going to be different definitions of what independence means. But, as we said as well, the wants and needs evolve over time. So the King realizes that “Oh, I do not have to cut out the rest of the world as a way of being independent. Oh, I do not have to cut out all of my resources as a way of being independent, but rather I can use my resources in a way that is my own.” They become a part of your independence. They become a source of your independence, a support for your independence. They are not in any way contradicting your independence. They become inclusive of your independence.


And that is why the rite of passage that you described — the 3rd Internal Monad -- which is about the process of declaring and owning your independence, your self-sufficiency — can be done still while being supported, as long as you start to own the responsibility of how you use those resources. It is about that sense of responsibility for how you utilize those resources.


But the need that will subconsciously motivate the navigations of life for a King often falls into terms of intimacy. They, more than — we will say not much more than the Scholar, but almost on par with the Scholar — have the most difficult time establishing a sense of intimacy, allowing that intimacy, that closeness to another, that confidence in another. In terms of the self, this intimacy is also about letting you get to know you as well. That intimacy is not just about others, as we said, these needs can be fulfilled on your own. Often, there is a denial of the self in the process of the life, and then the needs continually bring you back to experiences that, force you — not by external forces, but simply by terms of your navigation — put you in experiences that force you to learn more about yourself, to get to know you, and to accept you. So that is what we mean by intimacy in this case. It's not just about being close to another, but about also being internally aligned and close to yourself. Do you understand? Do the Kings in here resonate to these wants and needs?


[Comment] Yes


[Question] Is it common that Kings have a difficult time establishing intimacy because they want to be independent and they see that as a reflection of relying on someone else?


MEntity: Yes. They can often pit those against each other. “To give in too much to intimacy means that I've given too much into dependence.”


Ironically, one of the greatest ways for Kings to become the most independent is to allow dependence. Because the King, in terms of its manifesting Essence, has to recognize its part in the dynamic of life, not as apart from the dynamic of life. They are not an island, but a part of a community. When the King owns that their sense of independence, their sense of resources, is also dependent on their exchanges with others, their recognizing valid resources, their recognizing and delegating appropriately around them -- this is what mastery is. That is when the mastery comes in for the King, that is when they are able to not just do it alone, but to have recognized who can do it with them.


[Question] Is there a negative element to being a King where you might be very resistant or defensive to constructive feedback or criticism? You think, “I can figure this out on my own,” and you almost, in a negative way that's self-defeating, don't want to accept what other people have to say that may actually help you?


MEntity: Oh we remember the days. Yes, we are guilty of this in our incarnations as well. Many of us died for those very reasons, trying to “figure it out on our own” and not allowing input from other sources. We had to learn how to trust — and that would be the other term we might use in place of “intimacy,” is that you are motivated by that need for trust. You NEED to have that level of TRUST as a form of independence, because you have to trust those who are around you, providing for you, and contributing to your life in a way that matters to you. You must trust that.


So the King will find himself or herself often in positions where they are challenging the concept of trust, and challenging the concept of intimacy/trust, questioning their level of trust and the trust of others. It can become quite a dominating issue in the life. Do the Kings here recognize this?


To be more specific to your question, we wouldn't say that it is necessarily a negative thing to say “I want to do this myself.” It is only considered a negative thing if it is harming you to do so, or if it is not allowing you to get done what it is you'd like to get done when you are refusing support or input from another. Do you understand?


[Comment] Yes


[Question] We were talking about Role versus Casting earlier in conversation, and Troy had said on a daily basis we usually sort of project or demonstrate our Casting, but your Role, when everything's sort of in alignment is when your Role really shines. So I was thinking in terms of the King, ironically, does the King perhaps finally get to shine when he or she gets help when they need the help from other people, or rely on people for what they need to rely on them for, because they can't take care of those things on their own, and when they put all those ducks in a row, so to speak, that allows their Essence to be made manifest and that's when they can shine. And sometimes they get in their own way because they don't think that they're allowed to reach out, and thus they're not shining.


MEntity: You're speaking of Kings?


[Comment] I'm speaking of Kings. I'm applying what we talked about earlier to this particular role of the King.


MEntity: Yes. If we heard your question correctly, then yes. That sense of insularity and lack of independence can often be, as we said, precisely because they are not depending on and trusting those who are contributing. Did we hear the question correctly?


[Comment] Right. Sometimes you need to reach out and get help elsewhere to put you in a position where you do get to shine as a King.


MEntity: Yes. More often than not, the Kings will have that offered to them and it can become quite annoying to the King when people are trying to contribute when they are trying to figure things out on their own. They will often hear these forms of contribution as a din around them and miss that one key form of input that may have been beneficial to them, because they have written everyone off by that point, and it can be easy to miss that one or two sources that would have helped to elevate them in terms of independence.


[Question] So what both of you were pretty much outlining was the process of delegation, right? Acknowledging that sometimes others will be able to do a better job at a certain task than you will.


MEntity: Yes. There is that. We will say that delegation is combined with allowing as well. Delegation is more of an active recognition or seeking out of others who could contribute and allowance is that reception of those who are offering it.


[Comment] Trusting them to do it.


MEntity: Yes.


Before we begin to fade here we will move on to the final role of SCHOLAR:


What Scholars are motivated by on a conscious level in terms of WANTS for the lifetime we might describe as PROJECTS. Scholars want projects. They want to be working on something. They want to be studying something. They want to be calculating something. They want to be crafting something. It depends often on their casting in this case as to what that project would be. It could be helping someone. Or it could be any number of things, but they want projects. This is what motivates them often. Underlying everything else is that sense of creating or participating in or contributing to a project.


Now again, in terms of the Scholar, this definition of what project will mean may vary. But we would think that, if one is truly a Scholar, it would be difficult to find a Scholar who has not in some way thought of “what is my next project?” or “who is my next project?” or “how is my next project?”


Their NEED, however -- again we have two words that might work here -- but their NEEDS, what they are subconsciously motivated by and will find ways to fulfill it would be REST or SURRENDER. Scholars need more True Rest than most other roles, or often need to recognize the value of surrender more than other roles.


Now, surrender is a word that often gets confused with resignation, and we will clarify here that surrender is the conscious acknowledgement of forces that are not particularly in your immediate control. So there is a sense of allowance for those things that are going to happen whether you are contributing, participating, or able to control them at all.


So Scholars have to learn to surrender, and they need that. They will find that they navigate into positions where they have to surrender to forces greater than themselves. This is also how that rest comes about, because when the Scholar surrenders, they can “sigh” a sense of relief and truly become more centered again, centered back into themselves, into a more assimilative position in the life, rather than constantly distracted by the navigation of it. Do we have Scholars that would like to comment or validate or question?


[Question] Yeah, it sounds like you are pointing to Scholars having some control issues. The question would be maybe how to differentiate between when to let go and allow for and when to know when you're more needed to step in. And this could be a reflection of my Server Casting as well. I have some trouble differentiating between the two, but I recognize the need to allow for things to just take place.


MEntity: In terms of just the Scholar — we'll address the Server aspect in a moment — in terms of when to know when to surrender and when to rest versus when to step in is when you know that you will not be able to control it. This may require you to step in maybe once or twice to try, but more often than not, it's quite clear when you can and cannot control a situation. When you recognize “I cannot control this,” that is when you can step back and rest, because it is not in your hands.


This does not mean that you do not have to contribute, or in any way participate, and what we'll do is we'll use a more simplistic scenario that you can then apply to more personal scenarios. If it is going to storm outside, you cannot change that it is going to storm. It is going to rain, it is going to have wind, and you cannot change that.


You cannot change that, but what you can do is decide how to navigate that, and that would mean either choosing to stay inside — let the storm happen and stay inside — or be prepared with your raincoat and rain boots and your umbrella and go outside and know that you are still probably going to get wet and that you cannot necessarily control to the degree that you might get wet. Do you understand?


[Comment] Yes


MEntity: So it is the same in your personal life. There may be a storm brewing around you, and there may be a storm happening. So acknowledging that you cannot change that storm, but you can change how you navigate that storm makes a very big difference for the Scholar. It allows them to get their sense of power back, their sense of capacity to make sense of a situation back, because that is one of the things that Scholars have the greatest distraction with is trying to make sense of things, and it can drive them crazy if it seems senseless or there is a lack of capacity to assimilate the scenario. So knowing where the line is to draw between what you can control and when it is time to simply navigate what you can't control will help to bring that sense of rest back, that sense of centered state back. Do you understand?


[Comment] Yes


[Question] For a Scholar, you said True Rest earlier, so is it individual to each Scholar, obviously, what their True Rest is, so that's what has to come into play or is it really, literally rest?


MEntity: We meant it in a broader term. Your Life Task and the Pillars that support your Life Task — with one of them being True Rest and all the different examples that might fulfill True Rest — could come into play. But we meant the term, or the phrase, in the way that that category is defined in the first place. True Rest means that you feel inspired again, that you are truly replenished, that you come back feeling motivated and enthusiastic from the experience.


[Question] So Scholar hygiene I've read, like taking baths and laughter, would that fall into the category of rest?


MEntity: It most certainly will help the Scholar, yes. That is the case when it comes to your generalities, you can go take your bath and you can pursue moments of laughter and have a good time. But what matters here, in the context of this topic today, is when you are in a situation you cannot control and you find yourself struggling. You won't probably be able to run off to a bathtub or necessarily laugh in those circumstances, though you would want to resort to your capacity to discern how much control you have and then how to navigate within that.


[Comment] So detachment would come into play, in terms of stepping back and letting things happen as they may.


MEntity: That is a word that you could use, yes. We will say more that discernment would be more specifically applicable here, because that is what happens for the Scholars. The detachment will help, but the discernment — that being able to define and differentiate between what I can control and what I cannot — is what's important. If that requires detachment, then that will be of help for you. But the key is that discernment -- and then, of course, integrating that into yourself so that when that scenario comes around again, you know that “I don't have control over this. I can only navigate this, and here's how I choose to navigate it.”


How does everyone feel about their wants and needs relative to their Roles?


[Comment] I thought it was very interesting.


[Comment] Makes a lot of sense.


[Comment] Yeah, makes sense to me too.


[Comment] And it's really cool the hear the other ones, because you obviously know people of those Roles and know what to bring or, like it helps understand them better.


[Comment] Yeah, to clarify if you weren't sure what their Role is. Now I think “oh, so-and-so's an Artisan.” Very helpful.


MEntity: That is where we were going to go next. As a way to wrap things up we were going to suggest that each of you not just keep in mind your own wants and needs, but knowing the role of another can help you to understand what that individual might want and need, even if they are not necessarily aware of it. If you recognize another individual displaying behaviors that exemplify these wants and needs, and you do not know their Role, it can help you discern their Role as well. So it is not just information to help you in your navigation, but how to allow others their form of navigation as well and to contribute to that if you choose to.


We will ask, as we described these wants and needs, has anyone in their determination of their Role, found that these do not apply to what they have been …


[Comment] The King Role applies, but when I heard the Artisans need to be validated when they create something, that also applied and caused me to question “Is it possible that that's my Role as opposed to the King, or is it something that would resonate with a King as well?”


MEntity: We tried to be quite specific here, so what we would suggest for you to do is to play with the information we have shared here and take some time to assess, because in the moment of these group events it can be difficult to assess everything and to bring context on a greater scale. Play with those wants and needs that resonated with you and see which one actually applies in more cases than not, and then go with what you think is more valid. We will not do that determination for you here, because we do encourage our students to do that work of validation.


When those questions come up, those discrepancies or surprise insights come up, that may indicate that there has been inaccurate channeling. It will be important for you to own that process of validation. And the way to do that in this case is to look at which one is more insidious, more woven throughout your life, than the one that seems more appealing. If even that is difficult to use as a way of assessment on a personal level, ask someone around you. Sometimes the ones around you who are closest can tell you “Oh hell no. You are far more this than that.”


Okay. With that we will wrap things up today. This is the first time coming through Troy in this capacity for a long while, so we will leave before we move into jumbling our words and breaking up the connection. So we will say good day to each of you.


[All] Thank you


MEntity: Goodbye.

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As a Warrior, I would say the word Michael might have been looking for is Reciprocity. 


@Wendy @Janet H really good info here for all of us.


@MaureenInteresting Priest and True Rest info, as you were saying

On 5/18/2016 at 10:52 PM, DanielaS said:
[MEntity] We meant it in a broader term. Your Life Task and the Pillars that support your life task – with one of them being True Rest and all the different examples that might fulfill True Rest – could come into play. But we meant the term, or the phrase, in the way that that category is defined in the first place. True Rest means that you feel inspired again, that you are truly replenished, that you come back feeling motivated and enthusiastic from the experience.


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I really love this session as I read it again. Especially interesting when I apply it to my King-cast Scholar sister and other Scholars I know.

Tagging you again @Wendy and @Janet H because you might have missed it last time around, and it has great insights that I know you will appreciate. 

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Nexus is urging me to find constructive ways how to alleviate my anxiousness by concentrating on my True Rest and my needs.


Great session, lot of useful tips for everyone.

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I found this session to be tremendously informative. In fact, I felt like such a priest while reading it from the perspective of guiding others! I can use this information to benefit both my personal relationships and my life coaching practice.


Regarding my past experiences, I definitely resonated with my tendency to project my visions on others and the artisan's need to have recognition of their want for structure. That's how I got myself into such a mess by moving a cat into the home I share with my mother. After I read this, the whole thing was crystal clear!


Onward and upward!

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Bumping this great session, The Wants and Needs of Essence Roles ❤️


I've noticed that I also resonate greatly with the Server wants and needs. Maybe due to that natural leaning to the qualities of the opposite Role in our Axis, as we progress in soul age (I'm sure there is a transcript somewhere!)

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On 5/18/2016 at 11:52 PM, DanielaS said:


Kings are consciously motivated by the WANT for INDEPENDENCE. There is a sense that they must hold their own, that they must fulfill that want in many different ways that all are associated with the term “independence.” We will say that that term is often defined differently among our different Kings, even among those in our own entity. We had our differences in what we considered “independent” and it is quite often contextual to the lifetime. But the King will tend toward that as a form of navigation, to want to fulfill their sense of independence, their sense of self-sufficiency, their sense of being their primary resource. This does not necessarily mean that they have to do this in any insular way, but they often do, cutting themselves off from others as a way of displaying or exemplifying their independence, but that is not necessary.

it's interesting. There's nothing king in my profile... I never imagined being kin... however I see in me that wanting for independence...

Maybe because this has been the hardest thing for me to achieve... or because my life plan is healthy independence (I'm in last year). And the platform of 2020 and 2021 is feeling real independence... so independence is very much in focus for me in the last few years... but I think even before my 20s I wanted independence I just didn't consider myself capable of having... IoI

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It may be how you define independence. What is holding you back? What exactly are you looking for? Something to ponder, I don’t need your answers. 😊

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1 hour ago, Luciana Flora said:

it's interesting. There's nothing king in my profile... I never imagined being kin... however I see in me that wanting for independence...

Maybe because this has been the hardest thing for me to achieve... or because my life plan is healthy independence (I'm in last year). And the platform of 2020 and 2021 is feeling real independence... so independence is very much in focus for me in the last few years... but I think even before my 20s I wanted independence I just didn't consider myself capable of having... IoI


52 minutes ago, William Hromada said:

It may be how you define independence. What is holding you back? What exactly are you looking for? Something to ponder, I don’t need your answers. 😊

i can give an example of how the want for independence has shown up for me as a king. For example, already from first grade on (6 years old) I would wake up early in the morning. Make my own breakfast and pack my lunch for the day, long before anyone else in the house had even woken. In comparison, my sister had her lunch made by our parents until 5th grade (11 years old). So I didn’t need to make my own breakfast or pack my own lunch, but it was my natural inclination to handle it on my own.
That held true in pretty much everything for me. If I could manage on my own, I would. Independence was never an issue for me, if anything it was asking for help I needed to learn. 

- Obviously that might have been a quirk of me as a personality, and had little to do with being a king. 

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27 minutes ago, Jorgen said:

Independence was never an issue for me, if anything it was asking for help I needed to learn. 

- Obviously that might have been a quirk of me as a personality, and had little to do with being a king

Well, if this wanting means not having problems being independent then in that case it wouldn't fit with me...

  But most of the things that I see in myself a strong desire will be exactly the things that I have the most difficulty...


And no one between me and my brother and my sister  had that level of independence at 6 years old... my mother always encouraged dependence... I think that my brothers and I only started to learn how to do things after we left the house... IoI

I wanted to make friends and get friendships was always extremely difficult for me,... now apparently it's improving...

I always wanted independence because I felt extremely dependent...

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2 hours ago, Luciana Flora said:

it's interesting. There's nothing king in my profile... I never imagined being kin... however I see in me that wanting for independence...

Maybe because this has been the hardest thing for me to achieve... or because my life plan is healthy independence (I'm in last year). And the platform of 2020 and 2021 is feeling real independence... so independence is very much in focus for me in the last few years... but I think even before my 20s I wanted independence I just didn't consider myself capable of having... IoI


You can always want any of these things as a personality for various reasons. But as far as these Role wants and needs go, I think they're a constant undercurrent but not something that we consciously "work on". Independence may not be an issue for you anymore once you achieve it to your satisfaction. As far as Kings go, I was just discussing this with a local friend the other day who was channeled by Troy as a King, but I haven't been convinced yet. I mentioned that Kings want Independence, and she immediately went "YES!!!" She's someone who prefers to do her own thing on her own time, at her own pace. So am I--I'm learning more about the subtle quirks of Old soul Kings by comparing our similarities. It does extend to monetary independence and making one's own money, but it can include intellectual independence (i.e. being self-contained and not easily swayed by cultural expectations). 

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