Michael Speaks - October 28, 2012 - Open Q&A

[DanielaS]

Michael Speaks, October 28, 2012

Open Floor Questions

12:41 PM 10/28/2012

 

[tkmppi] As the votes in municipal elections are just being counted, I'd like to hear a short comment from Michael on the populist party Perussuomalaiset (”The Finns”), with candidates of foreign background as well as those opposed to immigration, which appears to be the only winning party in these elections, although not as many votes as it got in the parliamentary elections last year

 

[MEntity]
We will offer a short comment: This Party appears to be comprised of early Mature souls who are working to clarify what they deem is an optimal balance between the social and economic contexts.

 

If it were put into terms familiar to our teaching, it might be described as the "self-karmic" Party, with those feeling resonance with it working through internal conflicts that go hand in hand with evolving consciousness that also wants to retain familiarities.

 

This is just a short comment with no emphasis or direction, so if you would like for us to clarify, or if you do not find this valid or relevant, you may say so, if you choose.

 

[tkmppi] It's relevant, and clarifies my own feelings about the party.

 

[Ingun] Could you share some of the overleaves or any comments on what Anders Behring Breivik did, the perpetrator of the 2011 attacks here in Norway.

 

[MEntity]
This appears to be an early Young Priest in the Negative Poles who could not fathom a direction of a world away from his own ideals, which appear to have been imprinted heavily and never questioned.

 

It goes beyond this, in that it was not about the world moving in a direction away from his own ideals, but about removing those who represented that move away from the ideals.

 

When one has deemed oneself a keeper of an ideal that does not allow for variations or inclusion of differences, it can lead to delusional violence that range between the acts of this Priest to political maneuvers to enact oppressive laws.

 

With a Goal of Submission, Mode of Passion, Attitude of Idealism, and Chief Features of Impatience and Martyrdom, all of which were in the Negative Poles, were used to funnel a violent assault that was consciously chosen with conviction and with a sense of justification.

 

[Maureen]
Michael – you said: “Every Entity 5 is themed in Expansion vs Adventure, and in this case, this Entity is scattered across the planet, constantly moving, with not too many fragments from that entity getting too close together.” Considering we are usually spread out around the world, I know of 7 C1E5s (including me) living in Toronto.

 

I feel like we are starting to gather together for some reason as many of us have had first contact or have gotten back in touch in the last 2 years. Is this a high number for one location or is this just a “coincidence”? One thing of note -- we do have different levels of contact with each other (i.e. I've never met one of the other Entity 5 members, in person).

 

[MEntity]
Maureen, many entity members who can, will manage to cross paths in some way, or be brought to the awareness of, the 7th Level Old who may or may not return. This is not unusual, and it is one of the "fun things" that is attempted for one who is 7th Level Old.

 

Especially if that entity has been themed in keeping intimacy across time and space barriers throughout lifetimes.

 

[Maureen] Thank you!

 

[MEntity]
That is not the only reason, of course, because these fragments have lives that are being shaped by their own choices, but it is part of the consideration.

 

And though this entity can tend to be scattered, as the entity members age in Soul Age, the gravity of the reunion begins to become priority.

 

[Diane_HB] When people are regressed into the Theta state, they remember their time between lives and the procedures that they go through to reincarnate. They talk about taking a certain amount of energy to earth -- between 35% to 75%. Why do people under hypnosis experience themselves as choosing new lives and not Essence making new fragments?

 

[MEntity]
When the regression is valid, there is little differentiation between the Personality and Essence, much in the same way that one might begin to live when Manifesting Essence. The "I" is Essence. The Essence includes the current Personality. The differentiation is moot.

 

In those descriptions of quantifiable "energy," it may be a description of the Instinctive Center being carried forward after Review, or the uploading of the relevant data, so to speak.

 

Beyond that, the perception would, naturally, TEND to be from the perspective of the current Personality, regardless of how deep the state.

 

[Diane_HB] I thought uploading of data is from personality to essence, whereas the Michael Newton books talk about "bringing down energy" in terms of the "soul" using a percentage of its energy to incarnate.

 

[MEntity]
Both would be true. Data can be "uploaded" from Personality, especially while still incarnated, but is often still in charge of that work during Review, after a lifetime. This is, basically, a dumping of all data relative to the Chakras used by that Personality. The Instinctive Center, sans those extensions that were the Chakras for that lifetime, is then moved into another life and Personality, which will then extract and build its own relative Chakra system.

 

Imagine the Instinctive Center as a kind of Annual Plant that always returns with new growth, but always from the same starting point.

 

In terms of incarnation, that plant grows faster and stronger in each successive life, if you will.

 

Every incarnation takes a certain amount of energy, and each lifetime comes with a certain amount built in from which to then build from, either with or without Essence.

 

That allotted energy tends to be relative to the amount of data extracted from the Instinctive Center from the previous life and Personality, if we are going to describe this in a linear way.

 

For example, if 75% of the Instinctive Center was usable data that was completion of Monads, Karma, etc, or as data that must be returned to in much later incarnations, then when the incarnation is set up, it might be said to have been sent with "75%" energy.

 

That would be because 25% of the Instinctive Center is being carried forward, with 75% of new Essence energy for new experiences, plans, momentum, etc.

 

[Diane_HB] Would somebody with "75%" energy *feel* more energetic than someone with "35%" energy?

 

[MEntity]
It is not that it is 75% of Essence, but rather a description of that which is refreshed in the Instinctive Center. For instance, those who are in the 6th Level of a Soul Age tend to have carried over a rather full Instinctive Center, whereas those in the 5th Levels tend to have a higher percentage of new space in their Instinctive Center.

 

Again, this is a crude and limited description, but it is valid enough for beginning to understand.

 

The amount of "new energy" versus carry-over of Instinctive data has no bearing on the feeling of "energy" of a lifetime, because everyone responds to either of these extremes in different ways.

 

For example, there are those on the 6th Level with "jammed-packed" Instinctive Centers carried over so that as much Karma (both internally and externally) can be addressed as possible, and some will feel the weight of this and feel the pull below the water, while others keep their heads above water and gain a kind of optimistic strength, even as they tread the exhausting waters of that life.

 

The feelings of "energetic" are shaped by choices, health, priorities, diet, geography, projects, etc. not by past lives or energy dynamics of Essence or Instinctive Center.

 

[ClaireC] Hello, Michael. We touched on Dementia at last Wednesday's POF. Since this is such a difficult Choice to understand and knowing that a lot depends on the individuals' soul ages, can you elaborate more on this in view of our aging Baby-Boomer population and the dismal statistics facing us? Is there a large physical component too?

 

[MEntity]
Though we tend to emphasize the more metaphysical components of an ailment, disease, or injury, there are basic physical factors that are involved that matter. We can expound upon the metaphysical matters that are behind a person who is hit by a bus, but the fact that will remain that anyone hit by a bus is probably going to get injured, or die. A bus is a large object that, when hurdling through space toward a softer object, may tend toward devastating results.

 

And so it is with the Human body: as it moves through time and space, it does not regenerate and renew in ways that enable it to live "forever," but as the time frame for life expands, so does the body begin to house a brain with diminishing capacities for functioning as it used to function.

 

For many fragments, however, this is not as ugly an experience as it would seem to be, anymore than birth is an ugly experience. The developing brain in a "useless" body is no different than a diminishing brain in a "useless" body.

 

The return to an infantile state can be greatly liberating to a Personality who may have repressed a great deal over the lifetime.

 

The development of some form of Dementia tends to be relative to the level of repression that may have been involved in the life, relative to the denial of dependency, relative to the insistence on control, and so many other factors. It is as diverse in "reason for having" as any other condition.

 

But we can say that diet contributes greatly to the eventual condition.

 

[ClaireC] I thought so. Thank you.

 

[Martha] Yesterday I met Damien Echols and his wife Lorri Davis, and read Damien's very priest-y book about his spiritual journey while on death row for nearly 20 years in brutal conditions. Their story seems full of major karma, monads, and the makings of an epic tale. His focus on staying an awake and growing spiritual person, while surrounded by what sounds like much younger souls and/or those who never progressed through even the earliest internal monads, is very inspiring. He's had some truly amazing support as well from lots of people. I know some of their story may still be private due to ongoing karma, but can you share something about what all is going on here? He and the rest of the West Memphis 3 were recently released but not exonerated. I think Arkansas does not want to admit how badly they fucked up.

 

[MEntity] This is an example of a Server and how one lifetime can be the equivalent of 30 for other fragments. This is a cluster of "classic" Monads come to full completion (or near completion) in one lifetime for the fragments involved: Attacker/Victim; Healer/Healed; Rescuer/Rescued; Dependent/Independent; Pivotal Facilitator, Facilitated; Passive/Aggressive; Artist/Patron; Deserter/Abandoned; Defender/Defended; Player/Pawn; Hidden/Disclosed; Slander/Slandered; Jailer/Prisoner; Tandem Monads.

 

[AnnH] jesus

 

[Martha] holy shit

 

[MEntity] The "priest-y" qualities may come from the Sage Casting and imprinting from his culture, and contribute to his efforts to turn this experience into a teaching.

 

[Martha] is he a Michael student?

 

[Martha] not this life, but in general?

 

[MEntity]
Yes, he is.

 

He is from Cadre 11.

 

[Martha] I had a recognition hit with him and his wife

 

[MEntity]
Your Cadre 11.

 

This is not to say that this was planned or imposed upon the Personality, but that once there was a situation that presented itself as being optimal for "making the best of it," these Monads were pulled in over time.

 

[Janet] My attitude is Stoic and I have found little documentation -- only generalities -- as to what this attitude entails. (For example: “sees life as if they have seen it all before”.) Most of the references to Stoic that I've found are in association with those who are Spiritualist and need to use the positive pole of Stoic to get out of negative pole of Spiritualist. For the benefit of all of us Stoics, can you perhaps provide little more info about this attitude? Are there identifiable degrees between the positive and negative poles?

 

[MEntity]
Janet, the Stoic is one who interprets life in terms of behavior and character vs claims and descriptions. Character and behavior must take priority over other facets of interpretation. For instance, it will not matter what one says, but what one does, who one IS.

 

The Stoic explores the world of ethics as sustained and nurtured through self-management, self-awareness, self-control. This realm of ethic evolves from being standardized in the younger Soul Ages to being highly individualized by the Old Soul Age, with nuances granted.

 

We have described the Stoic as "one who sees the world as if it has been seen before" because the Stoic uses one's "nature" as the defining force against which to measure ethics and authenticity. This nature is a constant, even if individualized. In short, the older Soul Stoic might simply see the world in terms of how true one is to oneself.

 

And "oneself" is one's nature, and this is fairly constant, if not completely constant. It can be built upon, evolved, expanded, destroyed, crippled, wounded, but it is a constant that is fairly easy to discern by the Stoic.

 

The Stoic interprets life with a spectrum of understanding that one's nature is naturally limiting, that one's environment is naturally constricting, that one's upbringing has its effects, and so on, and that all of these things contribute to the character and behavior of a person in a way that is somewhat deterministic. That a person is the way he is because that is what he has to work with.

 

[Janet] I assume the Stoic applies this yardstick both to herself and to others.

 

[MEntity]
In the Positive Pole, Tranquility, the Stoic is not disappointed, not disoriented, and not reactionary to the ups and downs of life, or the behavior and choices of others. This Stoic does not see these as "good" or "bad" things, but as symptoms of the nature of someone or something. This Stoic works with that.

 

As this is an Ordinal, Inspirational Attitude, it can see itself in anyone around, as Inspiration is merely reflection of potential used for benefit.

 

The Negative Pole Stoic has moved into Resignation and no longer bothers with the nuances and potential, but determines that everyone is the same, or potentially the same, and that there is no use or hope in seeing anything differently.

 

And, yes, this is both internal and external, Janet.

 

None of this is to say that a Stoic is not expressive or that she does not wish for more, have opinions, experience expectations, because there are several elements at play in a Personality, but the older Stoic in the Positive Pole WILL tend to aim for that recognition of the nature of a person or situation over the expectations and demands of that person or situation, while the older Stoic in the Negative Pole will tend to dismiss any effort to consider beyond a conclusion drawn.

 

Do you relate?

 

[Janet] Yes. Very much so.

 

[jesuislulu] Hello Michael, I felt the recent divergence quite viscerally. Feeling like I had begun walking away from this city and overall almost all aspects of political polarization. I would like you to elaborate on what the effects were regarding the current crossroads we are finding ourselves with such a polarized political situation. I have been living in a highly republican state feeling a fish out of water and am going tomorrow for a job interview in yet another state with a similar political climate. I was asked the other day what would be any different. Could you speak to the overall energetics of the Wilmington NC area?

 

[MEntity]
All Old Souls are going to experience the "fish out of water" experience to some degree in a world that currently hosts only a maximum of 10% of an Old Soul perspective (mostly found in science fiction and non-religious metaphysical circles), no matter where one lives.

 

This will probably not change in your lifetimes.

 

One of the challenges of an Old Soul is how to balance the higher perspective of life that works for the Old Soul, while teaching it, which is inherently a part of every Old Soul to do in some way.

 

So the matter is not so much about what the rest of the world, or state, or county, or province, or city or town is doing or believing or practicing, but how you go about teaching what you want to teach.

 

[jesuislulu] ok I get this

 

[MEntity] Some of the truths learned by Old Souls is that their perspective (teaching) cannot be imposed, cannot be forced, and cannot be immediately understood or accepted.

 

[jesuislulu] hence the fish outta water

 

[MEntity]
And that the teaching must come naturally, not from reaction, urgency, or manipulation.

 

By "naturally," we mean that it is born of example, conversation, encouragement, education, etc.

 

And most importantly: that not everyone wants to, or can, understand or learn your teaching.

 

Yet.

 

If an Old Soul is in a body, he or she is teaching. It is not something that is necessary to organize or focus. It is quite difficult for most Old Souls NOT to live their own teachings, and this is their most consistent means of teaching.

 

However, some of the Old Souls' most difficult and challenging teachings is to move beyond the focus of how others are failing, and to continue learning, themselves.

 

The Old Soul who is distracted with the failings of others has stopped learning.

 

Not literally, but figuratively, in many ways.

 

All of this is barring the conditions of someone, or a group, somehow interfering with, or removing, your capacity for choice, or your Rights within that shared paradigm. In that case, it is no longer a matter of teaching, then, but a matter of putting into effect everything relevant that you have learned, as best you can.

 

You may not change the city, but you do not have to diminish your value as a person for the sake of someone else's imposed beliefs put into action. Beliefs are one thing, but when put into action that may interfere with your choice or Rights, then the choice to counter this, or not, becomes its own teaching.

 

We are speaking in broader contexts than your city in question, of course, but this is relevant to all of our students in the world, wherever they are.

 

The United States is quite clearly divided in its embodying of the shift from Young to Mature, with the Baby and Young on "one side" and the Mature and Old on the other. This is the most definitive we have seen it in a long time, but tends to be one of the symptoms of a paradigm shift forward, not backward.

 

By "forward" we mean more inclusive.

 

The more inclusive a paradigm, the more blatantly the exclusive are allowed to be.

 

This is true of your own Personalities, as well. You can be in your Positive Poles, and still throw a tantrum, because you know you will, eventually, make the choice that is the best you can make. You can be in your Positive Poles and still worry about a job interview, because it is fair to be uncertain about the future when it is dependent upon the decision of someone else, all the while still knowing you will adapt and evolve with whatever you may encounter.

 

The greater the inclusivity, the louder the exclusivity, both in the world, and in yourselves.

 

Because it knows it is safe, so to speak.

 

You are in the middle of an area that is quite unlike yourself, not for any other reason than that you have evolved to a point where this can be allowed in your world, even as you find great distaste for it.

 

We must conclude here for tonight.