NWM - Feb 21, 2015 - 7 Stages of Goal

[Kasia]

NWM - Feb 21, 2015 - 7 Stages of Goal

 

Channel: Troy Tolley

 

09:14:40 AM

 

MEntity:
Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We will begin.

 

Today we are asked to delineate the Goals in terms of measuring one's progression toward a state of fulfillment.

 

To understand the nature of the Goal as an Overleaf, one must understand that there is no end to it, no final state, no ultimate state. There are only polarities, which describe a more objective state, and then there is your experience of those polarities, which are more subjective states.

 

If there were an ultimate state, a Goal could only be used a few times across a few lifetimes.

 

Because there are objective states, the nature of the Goal can be mapped and understood, but because there are subjective states, the same Goal for different people in different lifetimes can bring very different results and experiences.

 

The polarities you see described by our system is objective. Any Soul Age and any Role can use that map for understanding the nature of the Goal.

 

So, Acceptance will always have Agape as a positive pole and Ingratiation as a negative pole for all Roles and Soul Ages.

 

But what "Agape" looks like, feels like, and IS for the Young Soul is very different from what it looks like, feels like, and IS for the Old Soul, because of the subjective state.

 

And even among Old Souls, Agape can bring different experiences because of that subjectivity.

 

So what we will describe today is an elaboration on the objective state because all of you can use that for understanding where you are in the fulfillment of your Goal.

 

To fully understand the nature of a Goal, you must think in terms of a wheel within a wheel.

 

Imagine a circle within a circle, or a donut, if you are so inclined.

 

The inner wheel would be the mapping of the negative pole. The outer wheel would be the mapping of the positive pole. The space between the circles, or the dough of the donut, is the Goal, itself, or the neutral state.

 

For some of our versed students, this mapping might make sense in that the Positive Pole will always be inclusive of the Negative, while the Negative will be restricted and exclusive of the Positive. There is no way for either pole not to be connected, but one is "inside" the other.

 

The donut HOLE, if you will, is a kind of negative space, then.

 

If we are inadvertently encouraging snacking, feel free to do so; the visuals will help.

 

Bobby: lol

DianeHB: LOL

 

MEntity:

Rather than seeing the Goal as a progression of steps that lead to an end, the Goal is more like a gear that either runs smoothly, or does not.

 

It is your key to your motivation for the lifetime.

 

It is how you use the fuel of experiences.

 

The inner wheel/negative pole, then, is more like a gear that rotates and has a positive wedge, negative wedge, and neutral wedge.

 

We know we are mixing metaphors and analogies, but it is rather necessary.

 

There is no point in the life beyond the first 7 years when the Personality is not working on the Goal.

 

But there does tend to be a "beginning," and that beginning tends to be within that inner gear, or negative pole.

 

The positive and negative wedges of that inner gear are extremes. They are not polarities, but extremes in terms of how that negative gear/pole is functioning.

 

The positive wedge is how that extreme shows up in the outer world, and the negative wedge is how that extreme affects the inner world.

 

The neutral here is how one either brings balance to those extremes, or gets stuck in that gear/pole.

 

GeraldineB: I really don't understand your analogy of using wedges -- the wheels are a good visualization, though

 

MEntity:
We are using the gear within a gear, and the parts of each gear because the fulfillment and experience of the Goal is not linear, and one's extremes "rotate" in terms of experiences from one extreme to another and into being stuck or balanced. The gears are always moving.

 

We will build upon and replace this clunky visual in a few moments, but this is an important part of the foundation for understanding what we will share later.

 

Beyond the negative gear/pole and its internal/external extremes and balance/locking parts, there is the Goal, itself. The dough of the donut. Or the space between the inner and outer wheels/gears.

 

No matter where one is in terms of emphasis on the gears, the Goal is present, in effect.

 

Whether one is in Ingratiation or Agape, it is still ACCEPTANCE.

 

In other words, no matter how poorly one is fulfilling Acceptance or how well one is Accepting, the work is still being done on Acceptance.

 

The outer circle/gear, also, has its extremes, its three parts/wedges that reflect the extremes in affecting the outer and inner world.

 

And the balance.

 

GeraldineB: ok -- I "got" wedges finally -- like a pie-chart -- sections of the round

 

MEntity: Yes

 

GeraldineB: I was thinking of a different type of wedge :)

 

MEntity:
NOW. To simplify and streamline all of the above, we ask you to toss all of those visuals aside. The gears and donut were only to point out the circular dynamic of each part, and how these function in non-linear ways. We may return to those visuals, but below will be a much cleaner way of understanding how the Goal is mapped, keeping in mind that it is NOT NECESSARILY LINEAR.

 

Continue with the visual of concentric circles, or circles within circles, and this is the order in which a Goal can best be understood and mapped for personal assessment, We will list from the inner-most circle to the outer-most circle.

 

1 - INNER NEGATIVE EXTREME;

2 - BALANCE or LOCK;

3 - OUTER NEGATIVE EXTREME;

4 - GOAL;

5 - INNER POSITIVE EXTREME;

6 - BALANCE/LOCK;

7 - OUTER POSITIVE EXTREME

 

What tends to be the progression through a Goal is Inner Negative/Outer Negative, Lock/Balance, Inner Positive/Outer Positive, Lock/Balance.

 

This progression is only in terms of introduction through the Goal, but not a linear path that ends. In other words, one will tend to "enter" through the Inner Negative, and then move to the Outer Negative, find herself Locked in the Negative Pole, and eventually find Balance that moves her into Inner Positive Extremes, etc. but she may now easily cycle back to an Inner Negative extreme.

 

ViP2: Is there an inner balance/lock (number 2) and an outer balance/lock (number 6), which are separate? Or are 2 and 6 the same state?

 

MEntity:
Visaish, they are different. When locked, they are separated. When in balance, they are connected. So, for example, if one finds balance between the negative extremes, she can now "slide" into the balance of the positive extremes.

 

It may be more accurate to describe "balance" as "resolution."

 

When there is a lock in place, the Goal functions like a gear that is stuck.

 

Motivation starts to halt, and the effort required for moving forward tends to exponentially grow.

 

ViP2: OK thanks, that helps

 

MEntity:
When there is resolution, or balance, the gears move again.

 

Since we have used Acceptance as an example, we will delineate Acceptance, first.

 

Though we expect further elaboration upon the terms shared, we will cover them quickly here so that they are on record. Elaboration can come over time.

 

Corresponding to the concentric circles mapped above, we will delineate each Goal now.

 

ACCEPTANCE

Inner Negative = EMPTINESS

LOCK/BALANCE = INGRATIATION

Outer Negative = DESPERATION

GOAL – Acceptance

Inner Positive = BLIND PERMISSION

BALANCE/LOCK = AGAPE

Outer Positive = AMORPHOUS LOVE

 

Before continuing to the other Goals, we will elaborare upon the circles above so that the later Goals can benefit from the understanding.

 

Inner Negative Extreme is the very prompt that a fragment will use to launch into a lifetime of Acceptance.

 

This is Emptiness.

 

The most extreme negative of Acceptance is prompted by a sense of emptiness, no form, and s drive to create or discover that form.

 

This is on an inner level and may or may not affect anyone else.

 

When it shifts toward a negative outer extreme, it shifts into Desperation.

 

Both Emptiness and Desperation are parts of Ingratiation, which is the idea that love must be found, earned, deserved.

 

While Ingratiation is the Negative Pole of Agape, it can either be LOCKED or used as a means of passage into the Positive Pole. It may be helpful to think of this in terms of LOCKED/UNLOCKED rather than Locked/Resolution, but both will work because in order to unlock, one must ACCEPT this state of Ingratiation.

 

As soon as one owns his state of Ingratiation, he is unlocking/balancing/resolving this state.

 

Because he is now moving into a more inclusive state, a more positive state.

 

However, as one progresses through Acceptance, there will tend to be a swing between the extremes of the Negative and into the extremes of the Positive.

 

So as one moves away from Ingratiation, he will tend to leap into BLIND PERMISSION.

 

Suddenly, his capacity to love means allowing himself to be, do, say, act in any way he feels motivated.

 

Everything is excused, permissible, justified.

 

He loses a sense of accountability because he is now "loving himself."

 

And this is true. It IS a form of Agape. It is a form of Acceptance.

 

But it is an inner extreme.

 

He will then swing to the outer extreme of "loving everyone" as long as he does not really know them.

 

Facelessness is one of the easiest ways to love.

 

Again, it is still a form of Agape, but it is an outer extreme. It does not have to do the work of loving.

 

He can then LOCK himself into Agape as Blind Permission and Amorphous Love, never truly knowing the fullness of Acceptance.

 

Agape is unlocked and the extremes resolved when he can love in detail, as well as on a large scale.

 

For some in Acceptance, Blind Permission can show up as loving only one or two or three people without question or accountability, but with no effort or interest beyond that.

 

Many who are in abusive relationships can be locked in Agape as Blind Permission.

 

QUESTION: are each of you following what we are sharing, and is this making sense to you?

 

DianeHB: I think so

ClaireC: Yes.

AnnH: yes

Bobby: mhmmm

Janet: I think so. Maybe if you provide the stages of another goal so we can see if we can work it out. Most here have Growth.

 

MEntity: We will move to Growth, then.

 

GeraldineB: I think once started, we're going to need all 7 Goals for our full student body

 

Janet: Well, and at least Geraldine and I would appreciate Discrimination and Dominance for ourselves today.

 

Janet: Oh and Flow for Diane

 

ViP2: I feel that this is making sense for me so far, yes - I'd like to apply what was explained for Acceptance to the other goals to understand more fully

 

MEntity: 

 

Growth

Inner Negative = ESCAPE

LOCK/BALANCE = CONFUSION

Outer Negative = RESISTANCE

GOAL - GROWTH

Inner Positive = STIMULATION/FRICTION

BALANCE/LOCK = EVOLUTION

Outer Positive = RECOGNITION

 

Discrimination

Inner Negative = LOATHING

LOCK/BALANCE = REJECTION

Outer Negative = IMPOSITION

GOAL - DISCRIMINATION

Inner Positive = EXPECTATION

BALANCE/LOCK = REFINEMENT

Outer Positive = RIGHTEOUSNESS

 

Dominance

 

Inner Negative = CHAOS

LOCK/BALANCE = DICTATORSHIP

Outer Negative = DISTRUST

GOAL - DOMINANCE

Inner Positive = WORTH

BALANCE/LOCK = LEADERSHIP

Outer Positive = ORDER

 

Flow

 

Inner Negative = DIVISION

LOCK/BALANCE = INERTIA

Outer Negative = DISTANCE

GOAL - FLOW

Inner Positive = DIRECTION

BALANCE/LOCK = FREEDOM

Outer Positive = CONTRIBUTION

 

QUEUE OPEN: we can now take questions about these delineations, terms, or anything regarding the topic.

 

Bobby: You said: Inner Negative Extreme is the very prompt that a fragment will use to launch into a lifetime of (fill in the blank Goal). Why is that? What is it that prompts this?

 

MEntity:
The Inner Negative of each Goal is an inherent quality in fragmentation. As fragments, there will always be these inner extremes. To activate a Goal for a Personality, Essence sets up prompts in the life that will play on those inner extremes as a means to jump start the Goal, the motivation of exploration and experience for the life.

 

Because birthing is a manifestation of that fragmentation, it is easy to access these inner extremes quite early in the life, and even subconsciously.

 

These wane in intensity as Essence evolves, but the validity of these qualities remain and can be used for every lifetime.

 

AnnH: I am perhaps being too literal here. But for example in Growth... The Outer Extreme is Recognition. Whose recognition and how is it manifested?

 

MEntity:
In all inner or outer states, the term can be used to describe how you bring that to others, or how others bring that to you. For example, in RECOGNITION as an Outer Extreme, it can play out as either your receiving feedback that recognizes your evolution, but that your evolution is dependent upon that feedback, or it may show up as your evolution depending upon your recognition of the growth of others.

 

In either way it shows up, it is about recognizing that you have grown, that you have evolved.

 

AnnH: How does Righteousness for Discrimination work with this?

 

MEntity: 
It is an "extreme" because the sense of evolution can often be locked until this growth is brought to your attention.

 

Righteousness is an outer positive extreme because those in Discrimination learn that they truly are often RIGHT.

 

But their idea of what is right can go to extremes in that they consciously or subconsciously shut out insight, input, and challenge. Their righteousness is upheld as a means of Refinement, but it can be locked if that righteousness is locked as the only standard, however accurate it may be.

 

This can be experienced in the other direction, as well, when the person in Discrimination bumps up against the Righteousness of others.

 

That input of Righteousness can either call into question that person's sense of Right, or prompt an impasse if that person's own Righteousness is upheld without flexibility.

 

Are these making sense?

 

Janet: yes

 

ClaireC: They are to me.

 

AnnH: Yes.

 

AnnH: It helps to see the movement--how it slides around and is NOT linear.

 

Janet: In general I think I recognize the states of Dominance. I just want to clarify one thing: For Acceptance you said that to unlock the negative pole, "one must ACCEPT this state of Ingratiation". Did you use the verb ACCEPT because the goal was Acceptance? For example, does the verb change to DOMINATE for Dominance? (Dominate a state of Dictatorship?) Or does the word ACCEPT apply to all?

 

MEntity: The verb changes.

 

Janet: Somehow that seems right. I can’t explain it, but this makes sense to me — at least in terms of my own goal of Dominance.

 

MEntity:
We will elaborate:

 

DOMINANCE is the process of learning to use influence and presence. When you are in Chaos or Distrust, you are in extremes and Dictatorship seems to be the answer, or imposing absolute authority.

 

To unlock oneself from Dictatorship, you must INFLUENCE, not CONTROL.

 

You must DOMINATE your Dictatorship, or bring your presence and influence back into the picture rather than locking yourself away from the chaos and distrust through control or absolutes.

 

In other words, take control over your control.

 

Does this make sense to you?

 

Janet: Oh yes. Absolutely.

 

MEntity: We will conclude with this final question, and complete the delineation of the Goals outside of this exchange.

 

ViP2: hi Michael - can you provide similar elaboration for Growth as you just did for Dominance in response to Janet's question?

 

MEntity: Yes, we can.

 

ViP2: Would you, then? :-)

 

MEntity: 
GROWTH is the process of learning how to create meaning.

 

When you are in Escape or Resistance, you are in CONFUSION.

 

Or, rather, when you are Resistant or seeking Escape, CONFUSION seems to be the answer or solution.

 

CONFUSION is the rejection of the consequences of choice.

 

As long as you are confused, you cannot be held accountable for your choices.

 

That is the theory, at least, when in the negative pole.

 

Confusion can come when one does not like the choices from which to choose, or when one has generated so many directions of choice, it is terrifying to choose.

 

To unlock oneself from Confusion, it can be helpful to GROW UP.

 

GROWTH is all about creating meaning, but there is responsibility in the creation of meaning, so Growth is also about owning one's responsibility.

 

In other words, your confusion is your own, not that of someone else's. Your confusion is yours to resolve, not to use for hiding until someone else makes your choices for you.

 

So if you think in terms of GROW UP, this helps one to make even the most incremental of moves toward responsibility and this is Evolution.

 

Does this make sense to you?

 

ClaireC: Yes, it does.

 

AnnH: Yes indeed.

 

ViP2: Partly, but it feels like a fine line between growing up "from the inside", and growing up based on external/societal expectations.

 

ViP2: Or not a fine line, but something that would require constant attention to not fall into. The latter wouldn't really be growing up, I think.

 

ViP2: The former being growing up based on what one really wants, not what is expected from the outside.

 

ViP2: Otherwise, it does make sense.

 

MEntity:
That may be because of the charged phrasing. We are not stating it as a shaming, but as a way to use the term GROWTH as a verb in helping you move out of Confusion. By "GROW UP" here we mean that YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOOSE. USE IT.

 

EVEN IF THAT CHOICE IS NOT TO CHOOSE. IT IS A CHOICE, AND YOU OWNED IT. AND THAT IS EVOLUTION.

 

Did that help clarify?

 

ViP2: Yes. I feel that I get that and it is inclusive, and not narrow in focus.

 

ViP2: Yes, thank you Michael

 

ClaireC: Excellent definition of Growing up.

 

MEntity: We know Troy expected a linear delineation of the Goals in a way that could help navigate progress, but Goals do not function in such a way. We think our delineation will help each of you to understand the broad variations of how you have progressed in your Goal, cycled through, moved around, and how better to take actions to your liking and benefit so that your motivations runs smoothly.

 

ViP2: Do the other overleaves/role/casting function in a similarly nonlinear way (for future questions?)

 

MEntity:
Each functions differently, and each is worth exploring in their delineation.

 

Good day to each of you. We will conclude here, for today.

 

12:26:47 PM

 

[Edit: added by Troy - Submission and Re-Evalutation]

 

Submission

 

Inner Negative = INVISIBILITY

LOCK/BALANCE = SUBSERVIENCE

Outer Negative = OBSESSION

GOAL - SUBMISSION

Inner Positive = FAITH

BALANCE/LOCK = DEVOTION

Outer Positive = INVESTMENT

 

Re-evaluation

 

Inner Negative = LONELINESS

LOCK/BALANCE = WITHDRAWAL

Outer Negative = REPELLING

GOAL - RE-EVALUATION

Inner Positive = SEDENTARY

BALANCE/LOCK = SIMPLICITY

Outer Positive = SENSITIVITY

[KurtisM]

I guess I didn't comment here already?

We really should get more info on this topic, and what each term for each goal means. And how the Mode and Attitude work in this kind of way too. What geometry do they have? 
Maybe the Blindspots of the Attitude are included in the geometry of the Attitude for instance? Maybe the wounding and healing of each Mode are included in their geometry too?

We seem to have explored the geometry of Centers+Parts and how they rotate and revolve around a center of gravity, like planets.
So interesting!

[PPLD]

...or in the math..?

Kidding.

(Hate geometry, except the so-called sacred one.) 

(YES, know about the alternative approach to M-Math through the geometry of Overleaves.)

 

Excellent session. Thanks for 'activating' it Kurtis. Interesting exploration you are suggesting, I'd say.

[Timothy J Sullivan]

LOVE THIS! 

On 5/19/2016 at 9:31 PM, Kasia said:

MEntity: The inner wheel would be the mapping of the negative pole. The outer wheel would be the mapping of the positive pole. The space between the circles, or the dough of the donut, is the Goal, itself, or the neutral state.

 

Two or three associations with reference to the 'dough' the "between" negative and positive poles or states: 

1. Music: Do (Re, Mi etc) as the sounding of the octave, the beginning of a 'musical' cycle, a process, a melody leading to deeper understanding, and further inspiration, another octave.

 

2. Slang: Dough as  "money". As in 'show me the money' or the reward for work done, or expected.

3. Dough, as metonymic reference for 'substance' or experience to be cooked, chewed, digested, savoured. 

 

Yum.  

Edited March 22, 2017 by Timothy J Sullivan

[Timothy J Sullivan]

18 hours ago, KurtisM said:

I guess I didn't comment here already?

We really should get more info on this topic, and what each term for each goal means. And how the Mode and Attitude work in this kind of way too. What geometry do they have? 
Maybe the Blindspots of the Attitude are included in the geometry of the Attitude for instance? Maybe the wounding and healing of each Mode are included in their geometry too?

We seem to have explored the geometry of Centers+Parts and how they rotate and revolve around a center of gravity, like planets.
So interesting!

 

Kurtis, are you saying there's a relation between Center/Parts and the Goal process dynamic? I mean I would guess there is, how do you see that working?

 

[KurtisM]

1 hour ago, Timothy J Sullivan said:

 

Kurtis, are you saying there's a relation between Center/Parts and the Goal process dynamic? I mean I would guess there is, how do you see that working?

 

No not really a relation.

Studying the overleaves has left me with an impression that every trait is a lot more cyclic than linear, and the cycles the traits go through depend on the context they're in. Which is described by their geometry.

 

Judging from Centers being about Center of Gravity, the geometry is like that of an orbit. The Center is the mass, while the Part is the gravitation.

The Mass is fed with input from a previous Part of Center used, which then outputs/emits/expresses that input onto the Part it gravitates around.

 

The Goal's geometry seems to be more of a donut that contains gears/circles that rotate within one another, like the storms that circle a gas giant's sphere.

When those gears/circles start to slow and get caught and locked, it's just like a gear, it prevents motivation.

Freeing that lock returns motivation and the system starts running again.

 

So with those as a sort of geometrical basis for understanding Centers and Goals, I was wondering what sort of geometry the Attitude, Mode etc. might have.

I hypothesized this and thought that perhaps the Mode is like two layers of planes, one is you and the other is the relationship and how it reflects you/you project upon it to feel a connection or develop resonance.

And perhaps the Attitude is like a Synapse in a way, with two radiating cones on either side representing input to and from self and other.

I love to imagine structures XD

Edited March 22, 2017 by KurtisM

[Evelin]

Love your visuals, Kurtis! 

[Timothy J Sullivan]

20 hours ago, KurtisM said:

Studying the overleaves has left me with an impression that every trait is a lot more cyclic than linear, and the cycles the traits go through depend on the context they're in. Which is described by their geometry.

 

I would agree that the overleaves, as energetic processes, operate both non-linearly and linearly, which is to say traverse an arc from 'initiation to completion,' while 'completion' maybe relative or partial, so one can 're-cycle' or revisit any stage in ways described elsewhere. But I conjecture that the 'geometry' or process dynamic for all overleaves/traits would follow a similar or even identical pattern, hence have a similar geometry. I'm a big fan of the "octave" ( i.e. Enneagram or law of seven and three) process which the Michaels seems to hold to, mostly.  

 

Nevertheless, your images are evocative, and deserve some contemplation.    

[KurtisM]

2 hours ago, Timothy J Sullivan said:

 

I would agree that the overleaves, as energetic processes, operate both non-linearly and linearly, which is to say traverse an arc from 'initiation to completion,' while 'completion' maybe relative or partial, so one can 're-cycle' or revisit any stage in ways described elsewhere. But I conjecture that the 'geometry' or process dynamic for all overleaves/traits would follow a similar or even identical pattern, hence have a similar geometry. I'm a big fan of the "octave" ( i.e. Enneagram or law of seven and three) process which the Michaels seems to hold to, mostly.  

 

Nevertheless, your images are evocative, and deserve some contemplation.    

Yes I agree.

I do see the other contexts having stages of 7, I'm not refuting that. I just think it would be strange if all of them had the same geometry.

The donut gear shape for the Goal makes sense because it reflects the action axis inherent in the goal what with the locks and balances of a smoothly operating system.

It would be kind of strange for the Mode's geometry, which would be about Reflection vs Projection to hold that same shape.

I picture it more like light reflecting off of glass or absorbing into it and passing through.

Though that's just my theory.

 

Edited March 23, 2017 by KurtisM

[Timothy J Sullivan]

2 hours ago, KurtisM said:

Yes I agree.

I do see the other contexts having stages of 7, I'm not refuting that. I just think it would be strange if all of them had the same geometry.

The donut gear shape for the Goal makes sense because it reflects the action axis inherent in the goal what with the locks and balances of a smoothly operating system.

It would be kind of strange for the Mode's geometry, which would be about Reflection vs Projection to hold that same shape.

I picture it more like light reflecting off of glass or absorbing into it and passing through.

Though that's just my theory.

 

 

A geometric image to be sure. And I think it works as such, giving depth to how it all works.

Edited March 23, 2017 by Timothy J Sullivan

[Heidi]

I first read the title as "The 7 Stages of Cool"

 

Lol. Maybe a future workshop topic? :)

[wimms]

I wonder if there is similar delineation for every Chief Feature..

[AnnaElisa]

On 5/20/2016 at 6:31 AM, Kasia said:

To unlock oneself from Confusion, it can be helpful to GROW UP.

Lol