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Our super slow progress through soul age levels, and the effect of TLE?

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Miizle

Michael has said in several occasions, that moving through soul ages and soul age levels is very slow, and finishing all internal monads on the positive pole is definitely not the norm. In a transcript i read earlier today
(http://our.truthloveenergy.com/articles.html/library/soul-ages-levels/levels/soul-age-levels-change-slowly-relevance-of-past-lives-r100/) they said,
 

 

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Most of you have been within one level of your current Soul Age since the last manifestation of the Infinite Soul. For the thousand years approximately before the manifestation, those of you present here, moved only one or two soul levels.

 

That just sounds slow in EXTREME. How many lifetimes is that per level??? This seems to me quite weird, thinking that in all those lifetimes, old soul lifetimes, internal monads would have not been completed on the positive pole. I know it's not easy, but still. I wonder how much the era would play part though, and shorter life spans in general? Do the figures look much different in this day and age, or in the future from now?

 

So correct me if i'm wrong, or likely wrong, as it would seem to me more likely than not that people of this community would complete their IM's on the positive pole. It's hard for me to imagine that only like 10% would do this, thanks to all the information, peer support, and access to Michael that are available and make it so much easier to have and keep a conscious look at our lives through the turbulance. Is this really rare? Are we truly super privileged and blessed in this incarnation, and are we going to "break the norm"?? Just wondering....

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Bobby

When it is a given that you WILL eventually complete the Grand Cycle process... does it really matter how long it takes?  🙂

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H2nna

We live and learn....many of my experiments have turned out to be lethal. oops.😂

 

I don't think we're special BUT we shouldn't underestimate the effect Ms have, it is incredibly useful to know which questions to ask yourself to proceed and I remember reading about a "vacuum effect", it's like if you wanna get rich, hangout with rich people, wanna pass your monads find those who have done it.😊

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Hjortur

This transcript also says that most of us old souls would have been reincarnating for 6 million years. According to the human timeline, I would have been an Orrorin, a kind of chimpanzee as an infant soul. This would have been more than 4 million years before homo erectus. 

If my soul age is divided over this 6 million year period, I would have become old soul around the time when homo sapiens had evolved.

According to a reading done in 1989 by Jose Stevens, I had my first infant soul incarnation 32000 years ago.  This seems more plausible to me.

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Luciana Flora

I honestly have no idea if 6 million years is a reasonable time or not. I confess that I do not read much about this part of the teaching.

Because right now I do not think it's important for me to know when I started this great cycle. So I focus more on information that I believe can help me improve my current life.

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Miizle
10 hours ago, Bobby said:

When it is a given that you WILL eventually complete the Grand Cycle process... does it really matter how long it takes?  <img height=">

 

Time is irrelevant of course. I was simply thinking about all the suffering experienced staying on negative poles. I think i've been currently spending some time on the negative pole of phase 4 of my 4th IM and if i got stuck here for the rest of my life, i don't know how soon i would even want to reincarnate! 😄 
I am just so incredibly grateful for Michael. I don't always manage to be grateful for all the things i woud like to be gratefu for, but I get teary just thinking about my gratitude for M.

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Hjortur

When it comes to time or timelines, I get the feeling that all metaphysical wisdom or teachings become fuzzy or break down. After all, time is connected to the material plane and very pliable. I think our souls/ Tao can play with it like it was a playdough. All questions about time would then be answered in a manner of a child being asked how a clump of playdough looked like. Neither is time linear nor absolute when it comes to reincarnation. According to Michael, parallel livetimes are not uncommon. We could also be living out our last lifetimes 30000 years ago. When it comes to 6 million years, the question about our lifeforms being ready for sentient life arises. Then again, is sentient life that important? I see the deva stages as an important stage in the evolution of our souls, forming our environment and building life Itself. They are after all setting the stage for the more consious sentients exploring and playing out their drama at a ”later” stage. Then.... I am a deva building my future sentient species and I am incarnated in these same evolved bodies. What would the answer then be about when I had my first incarnation? 

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Bogi
23 hours ago, Miizle said:

Michael has said in several occasions, that moving through soul ages and soul age levels is very slow, and finishing all internal monads on the positive pole is definitely not the norm. In a transcript i read earlier today
(http://our.truthloveenergy.com/articles.html/library/soul-ages-levels/levels/soul-age-levels-change-slowly-relevance-of-past-lives-r100/) they said,
 

 

 

That just sounds slow in EXTREME. How many lifetimes is that per level??? This seems to me quite weird, thinking that in all those lifetimes, old soul lifetimes, internal monads would have not been completed on the positive pole. I know it's not easy, but still. I wonder how much the era would play part though, and shorter life spans in general? Do the figures look much different in this day and age, or in the future from now?

 

So correct me if i'm wrong, or likely wrong, as it would seem to me more likely than not that people of this community would complete their IM's on the positive pole. It's hard for me to imagine that only like 10% would do this, thanks to all the information, peer support, and access to Michael that are available and make it so much easier to have and keep a conscious look at our lives through the turbulance. Is this really rare? Are we truly super privileged and blessed in this incarnation, and are we going to "break the norm"?? Just wondering....

 

Well, the progress is understandably slow.

Once I got some hard data from Michael, I was doing some math for fun. Yikes. 🤩

 

According to the Ms, this is my 218th lifetime and I am on 5th level Old. 

Since there are 35 levels in total, there were 32 levels that I have completed.

I got the info that this is my 6th lifetime on this level, which would mean that the 212th was the last one as 4th level Old.

That would make 32 levels and 212 lifetimes, meaning I spend on average 6-7 lifetimes on the same level. 

 

So, yeah. Very slow. 😉 It´s okay.

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On 3/29/2018 at 11:30 PM, Miizle said:

So correct me if i'm wrong, or likely wrong, as it would seem to me more likely than not that people of this community would complete their IM's on the positive pole. It's hard for me to imagine that only like 10% would do this, thanks to all the information, peer support, and access to Michael that are available and make it so much easier to have and keep a conscious look at our lives through the turbulance. Is this really rare? Are we truly super privileged and blessed in this incarnation, and are we going to "break the norm"?? Just wondering....

 

Although this community offers a helpful and interesting view of our collective existence and how to navigate it, I don't think being a Michael student would necessarily mean you would complete the IMs any faster. Everyone, Michael student or otherwise, likely has their own place of learning similar to this one which helps them along their course, so we are not unique, at least I don't think so. There may be plenty of lifetimes also where the Ms are out of reach to a Michael student, in these instances, perhaps there is a different teacher involved, or the path is nonetheless resolved anyway. There are many different variables as to what could happen in a lifetime so it doesn't surprise me that a 'correct' sequence would take awhile. Life is experimentation, it's meant to be explored in strange directions, even if that means one becomes stranded on a hopeless course for a bit just to see what that is like for a while.

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ckaricai

I’m thinking of that phrase “can’t teach an old dog new tricks,” so yeah it makes sense that it would take a long time to level up. We make the same mistakes over and over in a lifetime before we figure out we should try to solve the problem a different way. Also, people generally hate change. 

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Stickyflames

No idea. Impossible to validate.

What I do know is, it is not a far stretch to say MOST people are not living in the positive pole MOST of the time.

It is not a far stretch to say that I AM NOT living in the positive pole MOST of the time.

Personally, I hold very little interest in completing my soul ages. Mostly due to the fact that I am just beginning to take steps in enjoying this life. No rush to die. If I stay at the 4th IM for 20 years, cool. Besides, we couldn’t even rush this shit if we wanted to. If I wanted to wake up today, deciding fully that I wanted to complete my IM’s today...I would be delusional , repressed and avoidant. I think that it is ok that it takes forever. I think that it is great that it takes forever. I think a part of us enjoys that it takes forever. I think we really love doing this life thing far more than we love leveling up. I think this experience of gradual evolution is quite possibly the most beautiful experience existence has to offer and is the sole reason why all of existence is so eager to interact with this molasses of a physical plane. This is where we taste evolution, savour it. Nowhere else can we savour quite like the physical plane.

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Miizle

I wouldn't want to speed through it either. But i would like to be on the positive poles more and get there more easily. I would like my family access and react from positive poles. In no way would it normally make your life shorter and you die faster if you struggle less. That would mean the most miserable c*nts live the longest, and eventhough that may sometimes seem to be the case, i'd say it's mainly because we wish good riddance :P .

 

Also i would like to point out that in no shape or form did i mean that WE are 'special'. I meant this learning environment is rather special.

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Wendy

Michael ended my last session with these words:

 

If you focus on the pleasure and value of the process, it does not matter the pace.

 

It wasn't about IM or Soul Age, but it feels applicable to just about everything.  Knowing there is no end point, what's the point of rushing?

 

@BogiI'm on life 327 and *only* 4th Level Old so you seem to be going super fast to me LOL!

 

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Uma
4 hours ago, Wendy said:

If you focus on the pleasure and value of the process, it does not matter the pace.

LOVE THIS!

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DianeHB
6 hours ago, Wendy said:

Michael ended my last session with these words:

 

If you focus on the pleasure and value of the process, it does not matter the pace.

 

 

I love it too!! This is what I'm working on. LOL

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Moonfeather
6 hours ago, Wendy said:

Michael ended my last session with these words:

 

If you focus on the pleasure and value of the process, it does not matter the pace.

 

That helps me to lessen the pressure on myself and be ok with resting, no matter how long it takes.

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Maureen

If there's one thing I've learned at 7th Level Old,  and being able to take in the bigger picture, it's what MEntity said to @Wendy.

 

If you focus on the pleasure and value of the process, it does not matter the pace.

 

Once you comprehend this, to your core, it can become a daily ritual to remind yourself of the beauty and awe that surrounds us ALL THE TIME. There are no special circumstances required. This is why Older Souls move to a state of Be-ingness over Do-ingness. We need to be still enough to perceive what is, to perceive "all that is", and the perception of Beauty can lead us to awe... if we let it. Paying attention to Beauty through the use of Vividry is an act of self remembering because all that we perceive is a part of us and we are a part of everything. Each of us knows this at our core but we need to remember it, again and again, each lifetime and that's where our best teachers come in. They remind us of who we are and what we are truly capable of... and we ARE capable of perceiving the greatest Beauty in even the minutest of moments or events throughout our days... and you may be surprised that the greatest Beauty, of all, is you...  and you... and you... ad infinitum. The sum is greater than all it's many parts.  :wind:

 

Be_YOU_tiful.jpg

 

 

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