Body Types: Progressions and Transmutations

[Janet]

This article was written by Troy in dialog with Michael and posted to the Yahoo list on October 23, 2001. Updates and clarifications are appended and were posted on October 26, 2001.

 

BODY TYPES
Part Two: Progressions and Transmutations

 

Now that we have a working knowledge of the basic Body Types, let's find ways we can apply this information.

 

PROGRESSIONS

 

The progression of the Body Types is as follows:

 

Lunar (1) > Venus (7) > Mercury (2) > Saturnine (6) > Martial (3) > Jovial (5)
[Solar (4)]

Within a lifetime, the Body Type will "peak," then "progress." The Body Type is inherently a part of the life from birth, but as the body grows, the specific Body Type Configuration will become more evident in Appearance, Nature, and Health. Each person has a personal Peak and Progression Point that is personal to them.

 

Progression of a Body Type can move as much as 30% within a lifetime. The percentages, naturally, will rise for those Planetary Influences being progressed TOWARD, while the Planetary Influence being progressed FROM will lower. Those Planetary Influences that act as conduits for shifts may or may not change in percentage of influence.

 

NOTE: If you have your Body Type channeled or figured out, your Body Type Configuration should have two or more of the Planetary Influences IN SEQUENCE. For instance, your Body Type might be Saturn/Mercury/Venus in varying percentages because this reflects the consistent progression through the influences (Venus>Mercury>Saturn). There should be NO Saturn/Venus/Jovial, for example, because the consistency is lost and the Body Type channeled is invalid.

 

If I, or any other channel, received something inconsistent from the flow listed above, then please take a moment to determine your valid Body Type.

 

AN EXCEPTION is if you have SOLAR as part of your Body Type. Solar is used as a pivotal influence to move to any other planetary influence in the progression.

 

TRANSMUTATIONS

 

Movement does not just occur through the Body Types, but also through the Primary Aspects:

 

Appearance Energy transmutes and is allotted to influence Nature
Nature Energy transmutes and is allotted to influence Health
Health Energy transmutes and is allotted to influence Appearance

 

This is INDEPENDENT from the sequential progression of Planets. For example: Saturn may progress toward Mars, but if Saturn is the Primary Nature and there is a shift in Saturn's influence at all, that energy will move to whatever planet is influencing Health.

 

NOTE: It is not necessarily a percentage that actually moves, but a shift in energy is proportionally allotted to Primary Aspects.

 

A DETAILED EXAMPLE

 

Let's follow an example for both Planetary Progression and Aspect Progression. We will look at Planetary Progression first.

 

Let's say a person is 45% Saturnine, 40% Mercury, and 15% Venus. This person has determined that Saturn is their Primary Appearance, Mercury is their Primary Nature, and Venus is their Primary Health. Let's say within the lifespan, this person progresses the full 30%.

 

What you would find is an INCREASE FROM Mercury and Venus, because the progression occurs TOWARD Saturn. Venus will diminish completely, moving its 15% TOWARD Mercury over time. ALL INFLUENCES MOVE SIMULTANEOUSLY, so at the point where Venus diminishes and Mercury has compensated by moving equal energy of progression toward Saturn, then the Body Type Configuration at that point would be 60% Saturn, 40% Mercury. This would be a simple example. Don't forget though, within the lifetime this person, as an example, progresses the full 30%. We've accounted for 15% so far.

 

Upon reaching approximately 60% of a single planetary influence, the Body Type will USUALLY begin progressing toward the NEXT Body Type. This Body Type configuration could then progress toward Martial OR Solar, since Solar is Neutral and can be progressed TO and FROM at any point in the progression. By the time this life ended, the Body Type Configuration could be 15% Solar (or Martial), 45% Saturn, 40% Mercury, OR 10% Solar (or Martial), 50% Saturn, 40% Mercury, OR any consistent variation of that.

 

A unique trait of Solar is that it can act as a "bridge" to ANY other planetary influence. It is rare to choose this, but this does occur. As an example, continuing from the example above, the Configuration COULD progress to: 5% [insert planetary influence], 5% Solar, 50% Saturn, 40% Mercury (or some variation). Most people at least let the Solar get to around 60% before progressing, but it isn't a rule, of course.

 

The Aspects have progressed, too, so let's look at how that might happen. Remember: Appearance Energy shifts are transmuted and allotted to influence Nature; Nature Energy transmutes and is allotted to influence Health; Health Energy transmutes and is allotted to influence Appearance. This is INDEPENDENT from the sequential progression of Planets.

 

AGAIN NOTE: It is not the percentage that actually moves, but a shift in energy at all will shift proportionally as influences allotted to Primary Aspects.

 

We said this person has determined that Saturn is their Primary Appearance, Mercury is their Primary Nature, and Venus is their Primary Health. Although the influences can overlap because the body is one entity, we can at least say these are the accurate Primary Aspects.

 

This person may have a very rugged, tall, angular Appearance and a very witty, caustic, talkative Nature. The Health Aspect may or may not be obvious, but you could say this person may have very healthy bone structure, or bone troubles. Considering that Venus is the minority of influence and will be fading as the life progresses, most, if any, Parathyroid problems would be evident by the Peak of the Body Type, especially since after the Peak, the Venusian influences will diminish.

 

For simplicity, let's go with the Progression toward Martial and leave Solar out, using the final Configuration of 10% Martial, 50% Saturn, 40% Mercury.

 

Since Venus was determined to be the Health Aspect and it is diminishing as an influence, the Health Aspect will be carried by the Progression toward Saturn, since Health progresses toward Appearance, and Saturn is the planet influencing Appearance. This means, any Health challenges or strengths will now be mostly influenced by Saturn. This could translate into possibly having a long, full sexual life, and great health stamina, or a dysfunction of the sexual organs and potential cancer or some other over-stimulated growth in the body.

 

Since Saturn's original influence has moved toward Martial, and Saturn was determined to be Appearance, the energy shift to Martial will be in Nature. That means this person, as they get older, may become slightly more Martial in behavior, being quicker to anger, having lots of energy, and being over-all fiery.

 

Now remember, Mercury is still a highly influential factor on the Aspect of Nature and still Primary. This planet's influence on that Aspect has not shifted in percentage at all in this Configuration, though its energy has had to Progress proportionally. This person would then still be very Mercurial in Nature, with a seemingly new spicy edge to them because of the Martial influences on Nature added. Any transmutation from the Aspect of Nature (primarily Mercury) to Health (primarily Venus) has by default been moved to Saturn's influence because Health (which WAS primarily Venus) has progressed to Appearance (primarily Saturn).

 

To diagram this:

 

We started with 45% Saturnine (Primary Appearance). Saturn progresses sequentially to Mars. Energy moved from Primary Appearance transmutes to an influence on Nature (Mercury).

 

Mars is incorporated as a 10% influence. Since Energy transmuted from Appearance (primarily Saturn), and Appearance Energy transmutes to influence Nature, Mars is assigned as an influence on Nature.

 

(Note: If Saturn had been a Primary Influence on Health, Mars would be assigned an influence on Appearance, since Energy from Health transmutes to influence Appearance. If Saturn had been a Primary influence on Nature, the transmutation would be toward Health.)

 

We started with 15% Venus (Primary Health). Venus progresses sequentially to Mercury. All 15% from Venus is progressed to Mercury. Energy shifts from Primary Health (Venus) transmutes in allotment as an influence to Primary Appearance (Saturn). Energy from Health is transmuted to Saturn's influence on Appearance.

 

We started with 40% Mercury (Primary Nature). Mercury progresses sequentially to Saturn. The progression of Venus to Mercury simply moved that 15% from Venus proportionally to Saturn, maintaining Mercury's 40%. Energy shifts in Primary Nature (Mercury) transmutes and is allotted to Health (Venus).

 

NOTE: The energy shift from Nature (Mercury) moved to Venus (Health), but over time, even that transmuted again as Venus' energy progressed to Mercury, freeing that influence from Health to Appearance.

 

Remember that all of this happens GRADUALLY over the lifetime.

 

CLARIFICATION

 

You already know of the Progressions from Planetary Influence to Planetary Influence:

 

Lunar (1) > Venus (7) > Mercury (2) > Saturnine (6) > Martial (3) > Jovial(5)
[Solar (4)] <<"bridge"

 

Think of these Progressive in sequence, so if you have a Martial/Jovial Body Type, you are most likely moving toward Lunar, etc.

 

You already know of the Transmutations:

 

Appearance to Nature
Nature to Health
Health to Appearance

 

INDEPENDENTLY from Progressions, the Transmutations take place.

 

Think of it this way: Your Appearance is going to change as you grow older. That much you can count on. Where does Appearance transmute to? Based on your Appearance, you begin to BEHAVE in certain ways. Thus, your Appearance AFFECTS your NATURE.

 

As your Nature changes, your attitudes shift and flux. So what do moods and perceptions and behavior affect? YOUR HEALTH!

 

As your Health shifts and changes, what does it affect? You got it! YOUR APPEARANCE!

 

As you grow, variations will occur in your Nature, Appearance, and Health, so that is the Triad which creates the dynamic of being Physical.

 

The Connection between the Progressions of Planetary Influence and Transmutations is only in the potential for new Planets to affect you in some way, or the release of a Planet's Influence.

 

To determine what Planet has more influence over which of the Triad of Appearance, Nature, and Health, start with APPEARANCE. It should be easiest to see what has a stronger influence over your actual looks. Then figure in your basic motor behavior. How do you behave? Then assume the rest is influencing your Health. If you are over 50, you might check Health next, then Nature.

 

Remember, though, that these influences are NOT exclusive to one influence or another; they are interlaced, but you can see where you are influenced MOST FROM.

 

Remember, the Triad is not necessarily sequential or parallel to the Planetary Progression.

 

One more easy way to see all of this is to think of the Planetary Progressions as the Train Track, tracking the addition/subtraction of "cars" on the track, while the shifts in the Triad are passengers who are Doctors (Health), Psychologists (Nature), and Make-up Team Members (Appearance), moving around in the Cars.

 

LISA SAID: Other than that, I kinda get it. I found it easier to understand once I made little circles and put arrows going round it and labeling them with the planets and another circle with the 3 aspects. Handy little visual aid for me.

 

TROY: PERFECT! I would have loved to have included a visual, but alas, I am all text.

[Janet]

I found this article in the TLE Yahoo list and it is absolutely new info to me. It is quite interesting, but not completely fleshed out. The example given helps a bit as far as the progressions, but the transmutation part is still not entirely clear to me. Does it end with Saturn as Primary Nature? Or just with Saturn having more influence on Nature while still being Primary Appearance?

 

I think there was to be another article on Body Types that might have helped explain the concepts, but at this moment I am not sure that article ever appeared. Of course, I'll post whatever I find in the future. 

 

Anyhow, to me this content is a new source of questioning and discussion. 

[Kerrin]

On 4/28/2019 at 4:58 PM, Janet said:

 

NOTE: If you have your Body Type channeled or figured out, your Body Type Configuration should have two or more of the Planetary Influences IN SEQUENCE. For instance, your Body Type might be Saturn/Mercury/Venus in varying percentages because this reflects the consistent progression through the influences (Venus>Mercury>Saturn). There should be NO Saturn/Venus/Jovial, for example, because the consistency is lost and the Body Type channeled is invalid.

 

If I, or any other channel, received something inconsistent from the flow listed above, then please take a moment to determine your valid Body Type.

 

 

 

This is the first time I have read about the bodytypes needing to be sequential.  Several years ago, my body type was given as Saturnine- Lunar-Venusian (and 2% Uranus) and this has always seemed accurate to me, despite not being in a sequence.

[Janet]

3 hours ago, Kerrin said:

This is the first time I have read about the bodytypes needing to be sequential.  Several years ago, my body type was given as Saturnine- Lunar-Venusian (and 2% Uranus) and this has always seemed accurate to me, despite not being in a sequence.

Perhaps the 2% Uranus acts in a way similar to Solar, allowing a bridge to other planets outside the sequence. 

[KurtisM]

I didn't know Body Types could actually disappear over a lifetime!

Mine is Saturn 45%-Mercury 45%-Mars 10% so none are disappearing on me in this life at least. It does look like my Essence intended for a drastic rise in Martial Health-focus in this life though, which means lots of movement, destressing and sexual responsibility is in order if I want to become a healthy old man.

 

The part about how Nature transmutes into Health, and Health into Appearance make sense. But I don't quite get how Appearance transmutes into Nature. The closest understanding I can get is how the body's behavior has to be mindful of the body's shape and location. Or perhaps Appearance transmuting into Nature simply means you develop a body-image of yourself?

My Mercurial Nature of constant quick-thinking does certainly affect the stress my Martial Health has to contend with, which in turn drags me into looking wearily exhausted or angry or focused or formidable as a Saturn.

 

I'm also unsure exactly how and whether body types overtake contexts over time. I know they bleed into each other through the progression.

So I look like a Saturn-Mars and behave like a Mercury-Saturn and balance health like a Mars-Mercury. But this suggests that I should instead look like a Saturn-Mercury, behave like a Mercury-Mars and balance like a Mars-Saturn.

For now I'll just go with the bleedthrough progression as how body types affect each other in one context, and the triad as how body type contexts affect each other.

 

@Kerrin

I know that Juni here has a Luna-Venus-Mars Body Type progression and she seems pretty ok with that.

My guess is that Michael means there must be at least one linked sequence in the Body Type Mix you have. So both you and Juni have Luna-Venus as that linked sequence.

Edited April 30, 2019 by KurtisM

[ckaricai]

On 4/30/2019 at 12:42 PM, KurtisM said:

I didn't know Body Types could actually disappear over a lifetime!

Mine is Saturn 45%-Mercury 45%-Mars 10% so none are disappearing on me in this life at least. It does look like my Essence intended for a drastic rise in Martial Health-focus in this life though, which means lots of movement, destressing and sexual responsibility is in order if I want to become a healthy old man.

 

The part about how Nature transmutes into Health, and Health into Appearance make sense. But I don't quite get how Appearance transmutes into Nature. The closest understanding I can get is how the body's behavior has to be mindful of the body's shape and location. Or perhaps Appearance transmuting into Nature simply means you develop a body-image of yourself?

My Mercurial Nature of constant quick-thinking does certainly affect the stress my Martial Health has to contend with, which in turn drags me into looking wearily exhausted or angry or focused or formidable as a Saturn.

 

I'm also unsure exactly how and whether body types overtake contexts over time. I know they bleed into each other through the progression.

So I look like a Saturn-Mars and behave like a Mercury-Saturn and balance health like a Mars-Mercury. But this suggests that I should instead look like a Saturn-Mercury, behave like a Mercury-Mars and balance like a Mars-Saturn.

For now I'll just go with the bleedthrough progression as how body types affect each other in one context, and the triad as how body type contexts affect each other.

 

@Kerrin

I know that Juni here has a Luna-Venus-Mars Body Type progression and she seems pretty ok with that.

My guess is that Michael means there must be at least one linked sequence in the Body Type Mix you have. So both you and Juni have Luna-Venus as that linked sequence.

 

Have you thought more about this since you posted this? 

 

 

[KurtisM]

@ckaricai, no not really. I've been focused more on my club than anything else lately.

Are you also pondering the same question?

 

An example of this I could think of is that perhaps someone gives you a hug and you feel their warmth and affection for you, and feel how your body is shaped from that hug. But then you internalize that hug and question what it means about and to you, whether you deserved it, whether you crave more, what it represents about them etc.

[ckaricai]

1 hour ago, KurtisM said:

@ckaricai, no not really. I've been focused more on my club than anything else lately.

Are you also pondering the same question?

 

An example of this I could think of is that perhaps someone gives you a hug and you feel their warmth and affection for you, and feel how your body is shaped from that hug. But then you internalize that hug and question what it means about and to you, whether you deserved it, whether you crave more, what it represents about them etc.

 

Actually, I wasn't pondering it. I was just wondering if you'd figured it out before I gave my opinion. 

 

In any case I think I can give a clear example of appearance > nature. Rather, I can expand on the example Michael gave. Age for example. Young people think they're invincible. They do stupid physical stunts in part because they can bounce back quickly. The older you get the longer it takes injuries to heal and faster you get sore and tired, so you're less likely to behave rashly when it comes to physical stuff. I would have been happy to learn to skateboard down a hill when I was 15. Now, I don't even want to look at a skateboard. One fall and I'm toast. My behavior changed. Your gray hairs and saggy everything is an indication of an aging body, which triggers you to behave a certain way. Hello mid-life crisis. I had an attitude when I was younger that I'd accept gray hairs gracefully and proudly wear them. That didn't happen tho. I'm not happy about the gray hairs and I started plucking them out, but had to stop because doing that would ruin my edges. A black girl with bad edges is not a good thing. I'm not happy about a lot of things about aging and it kind of pisses me off and makes me want to rage. There is a ton of shit about menopause and perimenopause that girls at not taught at all. Like AT ALL.  I am not prepared for this second puberty bullshit, and I'm pissed off that no one bothered to teach me about it. I hate that we live in a capitalist society that doesn't care for or give a shit about the elderly. I'm not even elderly yet but this is all stuff that is starting to worry me....all the ways I thought I would respond to getting older were so so wrong. Sigh. I take out my frustrations in the gym. I need movement to feel better sometimes. 

 

I'm assuming the planetary mix just determines how one responds along with other overleaves (especially chief feaures). And if the progression between planets moves as we get older then one should be able to figure out which planet has the most influence. So to use myself as an example my primary is jovial (appearance), then mercurial (nature) then solar (health). I can't remembers the numbers off the top of my head. So that my appearance is jovial tracks. How I respond to my appearance would be in a mercurial way which also tracks, and how that affects my health (solar) also tracks. I thought I knew how I was going to respond to aging before I started getting older. My nerves are also more delicate than they were when I was younger and they weren't that great then so...yeah, that is another thing that tracks about mercurial nature. Since solar is the assimilative type then they would both filter through solar as they moved around. 

 

Not sure how helpful any of this is, but this is the way I'm interpreting this. But it would help to understand if there was a lot more channeling about body types I think. 

 

[Janet]

On 5/3/2019 at 1:34 PM, ckaricai said:

I'm not happy about a lot of things about aging and it kind of pisses me off and makes me want to rage.

I always figure that aging is better than the alternative so long as I still feel that I've got things to do.  But you're right that there are things I deal with as I get older and I think, "Did my MOTHER know about this? How long has this been a thing and no one told me?" 

 

I deal with gray hairs by coloring them purple and blue. (Artisan, of course.) I suspect we all have to learn to live with our gray hairs one way or another. They should be proud badges of experience, and maybe one day they will be. 

 

I'm Lunar>Venusian>Mercurial with Solar across all. I have (had?) Lunar and Venusian in equal amounts, and Venusian (nature) is my primary. But Michael gave me that info within the past 5 years: are those the percentages I was born with or the percentages I had moved to at the time? I do have the sense that Venusian influence is growing. There are definitely lots of new questions from this material. 

[AnnaD]

@Troy, in my advanced profile, I have listed in this order: Body Types: Venus/Mercury (solar)/Martial. I realise that this information needs to be elaborated upon in a further channeling, but what is the significance (if any) of the influence in brackets, and is there any significance of Venus being first (what does that mean?) Mercury second (?) and Martial last (?).

 

Was there an order/method that can be decoded for those of us who have an advanced profile? Just wondering... this subject is fascinating, health and how it applies to each of us..

[Janet]

6 hours ago, AnnaD said:

Was there an order/method that can be decoded for those of us who have an advanced profile?

Pretty sure Troy always lists in order Appearance/Nature/Health for Body Types. I believe that Appearance is so often the primary that Troy probably doesn't ask which is primary when retrieving a profile. 

 

6 hours ago, AnnaD said:

Body Types: Venus/Mercury (solar)/Martial.

Solar in parens, if given exactly as you show it, means that it combines with Mercury for Nature. 

 

The Foundations transcript describes how the planets show up for Appearance/Nature/Health: Body Types: Foundation. 

[ckaricai]

1 hour ago, Janet said:

Pretty sure Troy always lists in order Appearance/Nature/Health for Body Types. I believe that Appearance is so often the primary that Troy probably doesn't ask which is primary when retrieving a profile. 

 

Solar in parens, if given exactly as you show it, means that it combines with Mercury for Nature. 

 

The Foundations transcript describes how the planets show up for Appearance/Nature/Health: Body Types: Foundation. 

 

Actually, the body type mix in my profile was given as “Body Types: Mercury/Solar/Jovial.”

 

I asked about it during a private session:

”3. You've said my body types are mercury, jovial, and solar. I'm guessing solar is the lowest percentage and jovial is the highest. Can you tell me the percentages for each?” They answered: “In response to 3: MERCURY 40%, JUPITER 55%, SOLAR 5%”

 

I think validation is really helpful for assessing body types. Whichever one makes the most sense for each one is probably the best correspondence. 

[AnnaD]

Thanks @Janet and @ckaricai