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Nadine
1 hour ago, DianeHB said:

At 10% practice, this may lead toward a mutation that would be far more challenging and deadly, which would then begin to have more obvious effects on more demographics, escalating this pandemic to another tier of threat.

 

Wow. This is starting to get really, really scary. 

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Allison

That' was a pretty frightening take. 

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Evelin
1 hour ago, DianeHB said:

I see a lot of spiritual talk out there seeing this as something about the nature of the pandemic, but it's really what it brings out in us.

 

MEntity: More precisely, what you bring out of yourselves.

 

This. This is what I've been sensing overall. It's up to all of us how we respond to this. So far I'm mostly seeing the good and the helpful.

 

@DianeHB, thank you so much for having a clear head and formulating sensible questions!

 

 

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WolfAmethyst

canada march 15th cases.jpg

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Cong
1 hour ago, WolfAmethyst said:

canada march 15th cases.jpg

 

we need to take into considerations of test availability. In a lot of countries it's hard to get a test even if you have symptoms.

 

For example, countries like Japan tested less than 20,000 cases and the tested numbers for the US is at about 25,000.

 

In comparison, South Korea has tested 274,000 cases, and Iran has screened 10,000,000, where they said around 200,000 have symptoms.

 

The thing we need to look at is the community spread: once it happens, it basically indicates that the situation is out of control. 

 

Lets take the quarantine seriously. Avoid areas with high density of people.

 

Staying healthy, staying alive!!!

 

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Ingun
22 hours ago, Cong said:

 

we need to take into considerations of test availability. In a lot of countries it's hard to get a test even if you have symptoms.

 

For example, countries like Japan tested less than 20,000 cases and the tested numbers for the US is at about 25,000.

 

In comparison, South Korea has tested 274,000 cases, and Iran has screened 10,000,000, where they said around 200,000 have symptoms.

 

The thing we need to look at is the community spread: once it happens, it basically indicates that the situation is out of control. 

 

Lets take the quarantine seriously. Avoid areas with high density of people.

 

Staying healthy, staying alive!!!

 

Japan  - 127 million people - has testet about 25000

South Korea - 51 million people - has testet 274000 cases

Norway with its 5,3 million people has testet almost 20000 cases.

I think I heard that South-Korea and Norway are the countries or some of the countries that has testet most in relation to the population.

 

Today 18 March, we have testet 28200 cases, and there are 3 other countries that has tested more... I hope that brings some results.

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Update at the end.
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H2nna

Thank you @DianeHB!! (and Troy and Ms!) Michael doesn't really sugarcoat anything...the quanrantine we are doing is a joke, I can see most people getting bored after a short time and trying to find ways to return the "normal" life we knew. It is deceptive as it seems like we're slowing the virus down, but the math don't lie. 

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Miizle

This was a great and comprehensive session, thank you so much for asking @DianeHB and using your private session for this.
It will take a little while for me to process all this information to be honest.
Imagine not having Michael and @Troy helping us understand what's going on. (I think the gratitude we all have will leave a mark on all of us individually and collectively, that's a wonderful thought.)

 

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Crystal

Thank you so much, @DianeHB, Troy, and Michaels. Yes, this is frightening, but the M’s don’t bullshit their students or pussyfoot around, and that is why I keep coming back to them. The truth shall set you free and all that.

 

People in my neck of the woods are being surprisingly kind (and stocking up on toilet paper) and doing the social distancing thing. We in the Bay Area are under “shelter in place” orders and can only go out to get food, prescriptions, pet supplies and other essentials. I am glad I have Spotify and podcasts galore and a well-stocked Kindle. And jigsaw puzzles on my tablet. I live in California, a very Democratic state where most people trust our governments to have the common good in mind. (Vote Democratic, get good government.)

 

What I worry about are the people who HAVE to go out and work because otherwise they would have no money, or they provide the essential services (like health care). Or the ones who don’t have an emergency fund (most of Americans!). When we have Republicans like Mitt Romney saying “just give everyone a check” you know that people are seriously considering the resource-based economy...

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Ingun

In a debate program on tv today a doctor/scientist/researcher working in one of the hospitals meant that the corona was probably not a virus but a plague!! To me she seemed the most clearheaded and realistic person I've seen so far among all the health authorities coming forth these days... and the two other men in the debate who are in leading positions did not convince me because they still had this air of trivializing and denial around them.

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Hani

Thank you @DianeHB, Troy and Ms 

I keep thinking we are fucked 😞

 

What kind of food should we stock, if there will be shortage of fuel and electricity, we probably need food that doesn't need to be cooked, like nuts or canned food

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Miizle
3 hours ago, Ingun said:

In a debate program on tv today a doctor/scientist/researcher working in one of the hospitals meant that the corona was probably not a virus but a plague!!

What did he say is the difference, then?

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petra

@Hani without the ability to cook food, it will be a shitload of nuts, canned food, and dried food like all kinds of fruits and veggies, chips and such, as well as cold coffee and tea makers if you have enough water stored. Well, Hani I wish we are not fucked just yet, keep it up beautiful Lady, you want to see your niece grow up!

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Miizle

Those in areas that seem to be most likely affected by potential power shortages... (Don't know what those are tho??)  Might be a worthwile small investment to buy a portable gas stove and some gas. Just sayin'.

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Miizle

Also those in sunny places, look into solar cookers (direct solar energy amplified by reflective areas). I have wanted one for a while 🙂

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Hani
5 hours ago, petra said:

@Hani without the ability to cook food, it will be a shitload of nuts, canned food, and dried food like all kinds of fruits and veggies, chips and such, as well as cold coffee and tea makers if you have enough water stored. Well, Hani I wish we are not fucked just yet, keep it up beautiful Lady, you want to see your niece grow up!

I hope we are not fucked @petra

There are many things I want to see including a peaceful planet and normal worry free life 

You had the right idea to set yourself up years ago

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Becca the Student

Guys, I love you all: calm down a bit. Michael said the worst case scenario (cascading collapse) has a 20% chance of happening—that means it has an 80% chance of NOT happening. 🙂 Obviously, percentages change, but in the meantime, do what you can to prepare and help out. Help others out; ask for help yourself; meditate and get in touch with Essence. Focus on what’s going on NOW, what you can do NOW to help us navigate toward a May relief rather than an October one. 

 

Campaign for the government to provide incentives for lower-income folks. Call your Senators and Congressmen. Set up a helper’s network in your neighborhood or friend circle; donate to a union fund or a “Feeding America” campaign. Stockpile what you can so you can donate it to people if they need it.

 

Be kind. Trust in kindness. Take a breath.

 

❤️

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Ingun
11 hours ago, Miizle said:

What did he say is the difference, then?

 

That's the thing.... it was not a he, it was a she.

She didn't get a chance to go into the details but just said it looked more like a plague than a virus based on how it acts and how it spreads so fast, without stating that as proved or a belief. She spoke with confidence and authority as a doctor/scientist and it has provoked many that a mature woman (also beautiful) speaks the opposite of the established statements and opinions right now in the middle of the crises even... I found her to be very clear and simply highligting the worst case scenario without being emotional, and not omitting it from the spectrum.

 

Keeping the POWER MODE of this year in mind (since we are heading for the MODE season of April, May and June) this was a great example of how  that can be expressed. I've seen and heard a few examples of the Power Mode and its poles in action this month already.

 

 

This is from an Energy Report in April 2013:

POWER is an Exalted INTELLECTUAL/EXPRESSIVE Mode, which means that it is not action-based, and does not exert power in the way that one presumes power is enforced. Instead, Power Mode is a matter of Presence.

It is a matter of confidence, self-expression, the formation of ideas into something that can be shared.

The Positive pole is AUTHORITY, and the Negative pole is OPPRESSION. These qualities are based on Presence/Power.

 

To simplify POWER: AUTHORITY is the inclusion of ideas, thoughts, and expression into form as a means of resource and a means of relating, while OPPRESSION is the exclusion of ideas and expression as a means of disconnecting from and controlling thoughts, ideas, and expression into form.

 

Another way to put this is that:

Authority is the composing of thoughts, ideas, and expression into form, and

Oppression is the imposing of thoughts, ideas, and expression onto form.

Both poles are about Presence/Power, but brought forth in very different ways.

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Miizle

@Ingun when i wrote that i actually wondered for a second if it was she or he, but was too lazy to got check... and decided it didn't matter in this context... On national television though, yeah i guess she would have stood out.
So what i meant was, what is  the difference between a virus and a plague. I just looked it up, plague seems to be  bacterial. I wonder what her factual points here were ??

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Ingun
54 minutes ago, Miizle said:

@Ingun when i wrote that i actually wondered for a second if it was she or he, but was too lazy to got check... and decided it didn't matter in this context... On national television though, yeah i guess she would have stood out.
So what i meant was, what is  the difference between a virus and a plague. I just looked it up, plague seems to be  bacterial. I wonder what her factual points here were ??

I have no idea.

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Connie Stansell-Foy
On 3/17/2020 at 1:19 PM, H2nna said:

the math don't lie. 


That's what I keep telling people. "Do you know what exponential increase means?" It will be everywhere in a few weeks. I very much hope it fades by May.

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H2nna
1 hour ago, Connie Stansell-Foy said:


That's what I keep telling people. "Do you know what exponential increase means?" It will be everywhere in a few weeks. I very much hope it fades by May.

Here it starts to look linear instead of exponential, much better! But only time will tell...

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Julius Paštukas
On 3/19/2020 at 9:52 AM, H2nna said:

Here it starts to look linear instead of exponential, much better! But only time will tell...

Linear? Sorry, but nowhere it is linear and will not be any time soon, not at least in Europe or the State's.

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