More on the Pandemic 3-17-2020

[DianeHB]

From a private session on 3/17/2020:

 

MEntity: Hello to you, Diane. We are here, now. We can begin.

 

DianeHB: Hi Michael. My questions today will be about the Covid-19/coronavirus pandemic.

DianeHB: 1. To follow up on Becca's question about disruption to the food supply chain this morning -- would this mainly affect US food supplies or Europe and other continents as well?

 

MEntity: Depending on the extent of the impact in time from this pandemic, all continents would be affected to some extent, particularly areas that would be affected by halting of distributions due to stricter quarantining.

 

DianeHB: Ok, thank you.

 

DianeHB: 2. I get the feeling that this pandemic feeds into our Turning Points on individual, community, and global levels. Individually, many people are facing their fears and anxieties, precarious financial situations, or having the time to reconnect with themselves as they suddenly have the time they didn't have before. The systems and momentum in our society that seemed so intractable suddenly ground to a halt, and the consequences could be severe if this lasts more than a few weeks. But there are also some positive consequences -- there is less flying, less driving, and less consumption, which means we have suddenly reduced our impact on the climate.

 

DianeHB: Could you elaborate on the "cascading catastrophic collapse in several areas of society and services and safety"? We are seeing pressures on the healthcare system, the precarious situation of people with low-paying service jobs and those living in poverty/homelessness, which are exacerbate by the lack of affordable healthcare.

 

MEntity: The cascading catastrophic collapse we speak of is the potential for disruptions in food security, electricity, fuel supplies, and internet. These disruptions could cascade outward in several directions to prompt reactions that cause even more challenges, such as disregard for law and social agreements.

 

DianeHB: Oh wow.

 

MEntity: It is a low probability that we see, but it is high enough to be noted.

 

DianeHB: What are the probabilities of these collapses happening? Is it determined by whether the virus continues to spread, or by quarantine measures?

 

MEntity: At the moment this is around 20% likely.  The greatest determining factors are the strictness of quarantines that may come and the length of time in these quarantines. A secondary factor is any exploitation or imposition from those in power, such as your President.

 

DianeHB: I see.

DianeHB: I would hope that they ensure the essential supplies are sustained under quarantine.

DianeHB: But our country has not had great foresight so far when they could've seen this coming.

 

MEntity: Competence and care are in shorter supply than food in some cases and that would have its impact on all securities.

 

DianeHB: How about in other continents?

DianeHB: Some of them have better leadership than we do.

 

MEntity: The greater probabilities are in the United States. Other countries have lower probabilities.

 

DianeHB: Ok good. I'm trying to get an idea for others on TLE as well.

 

DianeHB: 3. You told Janet E: "There is a great deal of variables that could change that, particularly population willingness and involvement. Many, at this point, are still in denial. If that denial can be lifted, early probabilities for relief are May."

 

DianeHB: Is the denial mainly about the necessity for self-isolation and social distancing? What would change the minds of those who are in active denial? Seeing people around them get sick and die? Not only has conservative media been telling people it's "just a flu", younger people in their thirties and younger are often still carrying on because statistics say it only affects them mildly. Could you also give more indications and potential paths we can get through this, both individually and together?

 

MEntity: Social distancing is the only solution for slowing this pandemic. We see approximately 10% of populations practicing this to the extent that it needs to be in place. It would require 75% to 90% to truly slow this, and at least 40% to 60% to reduce deaths and impact on systems. At 10% practice, this may lead toward a mutation that would be far more challenging and deadly, which would then begin to have more obvious effects on more demographics, escalating this pandemic to another tier of threat.

 

MEntity: Incentives and security would help. If governments and systems and individual exchanges would shift toward ensuring security, it would bring greater effort for distancing. For example, companies that can continue wages, or government subsidies for everyone under a certain tier of income for shelter expenses, landlords allowing leniency and waiving of rent, services provided without fees, etc. In short, removing money from the equation of human existence.

 

DianeHB: Yeah, that has a lot to do with why a lot of people haven't been able to practice distancing.

 

DianeHB: That ties in with my next question.

 

DianeHB: 4. The U.S. government is having to look at all kinds of financial relief to the common citizens, which has not been done since FDR and the New Deal. But now even some Republicans are talking about some kind of universal basic income to get through this. Do you see this pandemic and the policy changes associated with it as potentially moving us closer to a resource-based economy in the US and/or around the world?

 

MEntity: 100%

 

DianeHB: Wow.

 

MEntity: It may be a short leap or a large leap, but it is pivotal in shifting a paradigm.

 

MEntity: Let us be clear:

 

MEntity: It is NOT the pandemic or disease or virus "teaching" any of you anything. It was not sent or generated as a lesson, punishment, or opportunity. It is simply a part of the nature of the Physical Plane and the scathing that all risk by being alive. The pandemic and virus are no different from an avalanche, tsunami, earthquake, hurricane, drought, flood, etc. It is a force of nature that reflects processes within humanity, but it is not an independent source teaching you or evolving you or punishing you. The short or long leap toward a Resource-based economy would be because of choices and actions taken by you in response to the threat. In other words, the lessons or teaching that come from a threat are not in the threat, itself, but in the response.

 

DianeHB: Yes, I understand that, but it's good to make that distinction. I see a lot of spiritual talk out there seeing this as something about the nature of the pandemic, but it's really what it brings out in us.

 

MEntity: More precisely, what you bring out of yourselves.

 

DianeHB: Yeah.

DianeHB: I'm seeing a lot of people individually facing their truths, and we are doing it on a societal level as well.

 

DianeHB: How is this pandemic affecting the potential Infinite Soul manifestation? Have the probabilities increased or stayed the same?

 

MEntity: If this pandemic is winding down around May, probabilities for Manifestation would lower. If this pandemic is escalated or continues through October, probabilities move closer to 100% Manifestation by December.

 

DianeHB: And can you go back to address what we individually can do to get through this? Stock up, offer help if we can, ask for help if we need it?

 

MEntity: On the most intimate of levels, allow this time to be one for you to SLOW DOWN. This is something we have mentioned to our students off and on for a long time in terms of what contributes most to collective anxiety. Slow Down. Do something different. Be with yourself. Practice giving yourself love and appreciation.

 

MEntity: On the more interactive of levels, ironically, reconnect with others. Reach out to them in ways that you may not have made time for in the past.

 

MEntity: Helping others and asking for help is a universally beneficial position in any circumstance.

 

MEntity: As for more practically "how to get through this," we would suggest that you secure food sources and watch for any threats to supply lines, add some creativity to your day as you spend more time in isolation, find a way to exercise your mind, body, and emotions, and focus your attention on credible and specialized sources for information, not speculative or hand-wringing sources.

 

MEntity: We will conclude here for today, then. Good day to you, Diane. Goodbye, for now.

 

DianeHB: Thank you Michael and Troy!! xoxo

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by DianeHB

[Nadine]

1 hour ago, DianeHB said:

At 10% practice, this may lead toward a mutation that would be far more challenging and deadly, which would then begin to have more obvious effects on more demographics, escalating this pandemic to another tier of threat.

 

Wow. This is starting to get really, really scary. 

[Allison]

That' was a pretty frightening take. 

[Evelin]

1 hour ago, DianeHB said:

I see a lot of spiritual talk out there seeing this as something about the nature of the pandemic, but it's really what it brings out in us.

 

MEntity: More precisely, what you bring out of yourselves.

 

This. This is what I've been sensing overall. It's up to all of us how we respond to this. So far I'm mostly seeing the good and the helpful.

 

@DianeHB, thank you so much for having a clear head and formulating sensible questions!

 

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Evelin

[WolfAmethyst]

[Cong]

1 hour ago, WolfAmethyst said:

 

we need to take into considerations of test availability. In a lot of countries it's hard to get a test even if you have symptoms.

 

For example, countries like Japan tested less than 20,000 cases and the tested numbers for the US is at about 25,000.

 

In comparison, South Korea has tested 274,000 cases, and Iran has screened 10,000,000, where they said around 200,000 have symptoms.

 

The thing we need to look at is the community spread: once it happens, it basically indicates that the situation is out of control. 

 

Lets take the quarantine seriously. Avoid areas with high density of people.

 

Staying healthy, staying alive!!!

 

[Yin-da]

22 hours ago, Cong said:

 

we need to take into considerations of test availability. In a lot of countries it's hard to get a test even if you have symptoms.

 

For example, countries like Japan tested less than 20,000 cases and the tested numbers for the US is at about 25,000.

 

In comparison, South Korea has tested 274,000 cases, and Iran has screened 10,000,000, where they said around 200,000 have symptoms.

 

The thing we need to look at is the community spread: once it happens, it basically indicates that the situation is out of control. 

 

Lets take the quarantine seriously. Avoid areas with high density of people.

 

Staying healthy, staying alive!!!

 

Japan  - 127 million people - has testet about 25000

South Korea - 51 million people - has testet 274000 cases

Norway with its 5,3 million people has testet almost 20000 cases.

I think I heard that South-Korea and Norway are the countries or some of the countries that has testet most in relation to the population.

 

Today 18 March, we have testet 28200 cases, and there are 3 other countries that has tested more... I hope that brings some results.

Edited March 18, 2020 by Ingun
Update at the end.

[H2nna]

Thank you @DianeHB!! (and Troy and Ms!) Michael doesn't really sugarcoat anything...the quanrantine we are doing is a joke, I can see most people getting bored after a short time and trying to find ways to return the "normal" life we knew. It is deceptive as it seems like we're slowing the virus down, but the math don't lie. 

[Yin-da]

@DianeHB Thank you so much for asking all of this. 

[Miizle]

This was a great and comprehensive session, thank you so much for asking @DianeHB and using your private session for this.
It will take a little while for me to process all this information to be honest.
Imagine not having Michael and @Troy helping us understand what's going on. (I think the gratitude we all have will leave a mark on all of us individually and collectively, that's a wonderful thought.)

 

[Crystal]

Thank you so much, @DianeHB, Troy, and Michaels. Yes, this is frightening, but the M’s don’t bullshit their students or pussyfoot around, and that is why I keep coming back to them. The truth shall set you free and all that.

 

People in my neck of the woods are being surprisingly kind (and stocking up on toilet paper) and doing the social distancing thing. We in the Bay Area are under “shelter in place” orders and can only go out to get food, prescriptions, pet supplies and other essentials. I am glad I have Spotify and podcasts galore and a well-stocked Kindle. And jigsaw puzzles on my tablet. I live in California, a very Democratic state where most people trust our governments to have the common good in mind. (Vote Democratic, get good government.)

 

What I worry about are the people who HAVE to go out and work because otherwise they would have no money, or they provide the essential services (like health care). Or the ones who don’t have an emergency fund (most of Americans!). When we have Republicans like Mitt Romney saying “just give everyone a check” you know that people are seriously considering the resource-based economy...

[Yin-da]

In a debate program on tv today a doctor/scientist/researcher working in one of the hospitals meant that the corona was probably not a virus but a plague!! To me she seemed the most clearheaded and realistic person I've seen so far among all the health authorities coming forth these days... and the two other men in the debate who are in leading positions did not convince me because they still had this air of trivializing and denial around them.

[Hani]

Thank you @DianeHB, Troy and Ms 

I keep thinking we are fucked

 

What kind of food should we stock, if there will be shortage of fuel and electricity, we probably need food that doesn't need to be cooked, like nuts or canned food

[Miizle]

3 hours ago, Ingun said:

In a debate program on tv today a doctor/scientist/researcher working in one of the hospitals meant that the corona was probably not a virus but a plague!!

What did he say is the difference, then?

[petra]

@Hani without the ability to cook food, it will be a shitload of nuts, canned food, and dried food like all kinds of fruits and veggies, chips and such, as well as cold coffee and tea makers if you have enough water stored. Well, Hani I wish we are not fucked just yet, keep it up beautiful Lady, you want to see your niece grow up!

[Miizle]

Those in areas that seem to be most likely affected by potential power shortages... (Don't know what those are tho??)  Might be a worthwile small investment to buy a portable gas stove and some gas. Just sayin'.

[Miizle]

Also those in sunny places, look into solar cookers (direct solar energy amplified by reflective areas). I have wanted one for a while

Edited March 18, 2020 by Miizle

[Hani]

5 hours ago, petra said:

@Hani without the ability to cook food, it will be a shitload of nuts, canned food, and dried food like all kinds of fruits and veggies, chips and such, as well as cold coffee and tea makers if you have enough water stored. Well, Hani I wish we are not fucked just yet, keep it up beautiful Lady, you want to see your niece grow up!

I hope we are not fucked @petra

There are many things I want to see including a peaceful planet and normal worry free life 

You had the right idea to set yourself up years ago

[Becca the Student]

Guys, I love you all: calm down a bit. Michael said the worst case scenario (cascading collapse) has a 20% chance of happening—that means it has an 80% chance of NOT happening.  Obviously, percentages change, but in the meantime, do what you can to prepare and help out. Help others out; ask for help yourself; meditate and get in touch with Essence. Focus on what’s going on NOW, what you can do NOW to help us navigate toward a May relief rather than an October one. 

 

Campaign for the government to provide incentives for lower-income folks. Call your Senators and Congressmen. Set up a helper’s network in your neighborhood or friend circle; donate to a union fund or a “Feeding America” campaign. Stockpile what you can so you can donate it to people if they need it.

 

Be kind. Trust in kindness. Take a breath.

 

Edited March 18, 2020 by Becca the Student

[Yin-da]

11 hours ago, Miizle said:

What did he say is the difference, then?

 

That's the thing.... it was not a he, it was a she.

She didn't get a chance to go into the details but just said it looked more like a plague than a virus based on how it acts and how it spreads so fast, without stating that as proved or a belief. She spoke with confidence and authority as a doctor/scientist and it has provoked many that a mature woman (also beautiful) speaks the opposite of the established statements and opinions right now in the middle of the crises even... I found her to be very clear and simply highligting the worst case scenario without being emotional, and not omitting it from the spectrum.

 

Keeping the POWER MODE of this year in mind (since we are heading for the MODE season of April, May and June) this was a great example of how  that can be expressed. I've seen and heard a few examples of the Power Mode and its poles in action this month already.

 

 

This is from an Energy Report in April 2013:

POWER is an Exalted INTELLECTUAL/EXPRESSIVE Mode, which means that it is not action-based, and does not exert power in the way that one presumes power is enforced. Instead, Power Mode is a matter of Presence.

It is a matter of confidence, self-expression, the formation of ideas into something that can be shared.

The Positive pole is AUTHORITY, and the Negative pole is OPPRESSION. These qualities are based on Presence/Power.

 

To simplify POWER: AUTHORITY is the inclusion of ideas, thoughts, and expression into form as a means of resource and a means of relating, while OPPRESSION is the exclusion of ideas and expression as a means of disconnecting from and controlling thoughts, ideas, and expression into form.

 

Another way to put this is that:

Authority is the composing of thoughts, ideas, and expression into form, and

Oppression is the imposing of thoughts, ideas, and expression onto form.

Both poles are about Presence/Power, but brought forth in very different ways.

Edited March 18, 2020 by Ingun

[Miizle]

@Ingun when i wrote that i actually wondered for a second if it was she or he, but was too lazy to got check... and decided it didn't matter in this context... On national television though, yeah i guess she would have stood out.
So what i meant was, what is  the difference between a virus and a plague. I just looked it up, plague seems to be  bacterial. I wonder what her factual points here were ??

[Yin-da]

54 minutes ago, Miizle said:

@Ingun when i wrote that i actually wondered for a second if it was she or he, but was too lazy to got check... and decided it didn't matter in this context... On national television though, yeah i guess she would have stood out.
So what i meant was, what is  the difference between a virus and a plague. I just looked it up, plague seems to be  bacterial. I wonder what her factual points here were ??

I have no idea.

[Connie Stansell-Foy]

On 3/17/2020 at 1:19 PM, H2nna said:

the math don't lie. 

That's what I keep telling people. "Do you know what exponential increase means?" It will be everywhere in a few weeks. I very much hope it fades by May.

[H2nna]

1 hour ago, Connie Stansell-Foy said:

That's what I keep telling people. "Do you know what exponential increase means?" It will be everywhere in a few weeks. I very much hope it fades by May.

Here it starts to look linear instead of exponential, much better! But only time will tell...

[JUlius]

On 3/19/2020 at 9:52 AM, H2nna said:

Here it starts to look linear instead of exponential, much better! But only time will tell...

Linear? Sorry, but nowhere it is linear and will not be any time soon, not at least in Europe or the State's.