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I find it hard to believe that the very vague teachings of the internal monads "graduation system to level up in soul age" isn't a white lie (the internal monads are not only vague in nature, but most people never even learn about them, making the Michael's emphasis on personal choice seems rather inaccurate).


Why would Michael lie about this? We are still very early in the "spirituality popularization process", most people are either atheist or following (more or less) traditional religions. Therefore sharing hard truths about spirituality would just hinder this process. The WingMakers channel states that the scientific proof of the immortality of the soul (= reincarnation) will happen in the near future.


The hard truth which I'm talking about is my hypothesis that the painful process we go through after physical death in-between lives is what actually upgrades our soul age. 
The main sources of this theory are the countless reports of NDEs (near death experiences) and high-doses-psychedelics trip reports, which show that younger souls experience "hell" (intense pain) consistently. Also, the older the soul, the less time they spend in hell before reaching "heaven" (bliss/love). Also, "very-high-level old souls" skip the hell part (almost) entirely.


I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, and a channeled answer would be much appreciated.


Check my subreddit for more info on this topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/index  (the "LAST phase" link, specifically)

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DianeHB

I see a few misunderstandings here. Michael’s teachings or any overt spirituality aren’t necessary for anyone to progress in soul age — we’ve been evolving for millions of years without them. The soul ages are not “upgrades” in a hierarchy but a description of a natural evolutionary process for Sentience. People will evolve whether they’re “spiritual” or not, because what evolves us is experience, not spiritual knowledge (but spiritual knowledge can help). The Internal Monads describe the natural progression of evolution during the lifetime, and you can observe people go through them (or stay at one stage) based on their behavior. There is a lot of channeling on this site on the IMs if you want to understand them. https://our.truthloveenergy.com/articles.html/library/personality-dynamics/internal-monads/
 

The transition process after death, whether painful or not, is what Michael calls the 7th Internal Monad. I suppose it can be painful depending on how much people resist the process or go through it faster because they’ve done it so many times. 

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Becca the Student

Gotta admit, I'm kind of confused at the jump in assumption here: why do people need to know about the Internal Monads in order for them to exist?

 

I agree with @DianeHB , I think there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the Internal Monads and Michaels' teachings in this question. The Internal Monads aren't a series of "upgrades" in the sense you're using the term. You don't need to study them in order to go through them (as one would consciously seek out items to get to the next level of a video game, for example, or pass tests to get to the next grade in school 😉). The Internal Monads, and the Michael Teachings in general, are a framework through which we can look at the world around us. This framework is intended to help us recognize natural patterns and structures and truths that are already there. The intention is that by shifting our perception of the world in this way, we can make more conscious choices. We can see how our actions, inactions, and reactions are the result of patterns of thought, or choice, or karma, or fear -- and we can therefore make more informed choices about how we want to navigate life than we would have without that information. If you're in the Third Internal Monad, for example, you can't just study it real hard and quickly move on to the Fourth, no more than a little girl can will her breasts into existence (which is 100% a thing almost all of my friends and I tried unsuccessfully to do). It's a phase of growth you go through.

 

Think of it this way: a caterpillar turns into a butterfly because that's simply how it evolves. That's it's life cycle. From our perspective, it's a larva, then it's a caterpillar, then it goes through a phase of lots of eating, then it's a chrysalis, then it sprouts wings as a butterfly, then it dies. Similarly, human bodies are born, and we grow from babies to teens to young adults to adults to old age, and then we die. We don't need to consciously pursue this growth of our bodies in order for it to be so: it just happens. That's how the universe works.

 

This same growth applies to Essence in the Astral plane (and later, Entities in the Causal plane): we are "born" from a Spark, and we grow from Babies into Young Souls, then Mature Souls, then Old Souls, and then we cycle off. Essence doesn't need to consciously pursue this growth of its "body" in order for it to be so: it just happens. That's how the universe works.

 

Re: a channeled answer, you can absolutely buy a session with Troy to ask this directly to Michael, if you'd like. Unfortunately, we don't live in a Resource-Based Economy yet -- while Troy is wonderfully generous in sharing the Energy Reports and certain community Michael Sessions for free: he's still gotta eat and pay his bills.

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Connor

The Internal Monads are not a vague part of the teachings at all. In fact, there is an entire 'wing' of the TLE Library devoted to that very topic: Internal Monads.

 

No one is alive for the purpose of completing their Internal Monads. There is no rush. We incarnate to experience physical life and to explore whatever sparks our curiosity. Internal Monads are not imposed as a 'graduation system'. They are simply a means of charting the natural growth of every Sentient consciousness within a lifetime. Everyone has to embrace or resist their own birth. Everyone who lives long enough has a 'midlife crisis', regardless of Soul Age. Everyone must embrace or resist their mortality when death approaches, no exceptions. The Internal Monads are no more imposed upon us than sunrises and sunsets.

 

The Afterlife is very simple. When you die, you will experience whatever it is that you expect to experience. If you think you deserve to experience Hell, that's what you'll get. You'll create a nice Hell for yourself and you'll sustain it for as long as you desire, regardless of whether or not you are an older or younger soul. Anyone can learn to be more self-loathing than self-loving, and being a younger soul does not mean you are destined for an unpleasant afterlife.

 

You are giving sole evolutionary credit to the Astral interval between lifetimes, saying that it is only the work we do between lives which advances our Soul Age. This is incorrect. Some people shift Soul Age Levels while still physically alive. That said, most people do complete the 7th Internal Monad of their Soul Age Level after physical death, but they will only progress in Soul Age if the 7th Monad is completed in the Positive Pole. In other words, it requires a lifetime of work beforehand for a Soul Age Level shift to occur, and many Personalities refuse to do the work.

 

If a person spends a lifetime choosing to resent their birth, resist their autonomy, abdicate responsibility for defining themselves, resent growing old, and reject their mortality, then what foundation do they have upon which to support their launch into the new perspective of the next Soul Age? They will arrive in the afterlife desiccated, spiritually impoverished, and quite incapable of embracing the new perspective of the next Soul Age. And so they will create a new lifetime who will ideally progress further - not because there is any need to complete the Internal Monads positively, but because it is more pleasant to do so.

 

Finally, Michael does not lie. They make mistakes and get things wrong occasionally. But they do not lie. Why would Michael ever try and sugarcoat reality for us? They never have before. The whole point of studying the Internal Monads is, along with everything else in Michael's teachings, to realize that you have a choice. We have a choice in how we respond to these inevitable stages of life, and the overall arc of our lifetimes is shaped by those choices. That does not sound like a lie to me. It sounds empowering, and it sounds like a perspective that we could learn from anyone with some life experience.

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Christian
14 hours ago, Connor said:

The Afterlife is very simple. When you die, you will experience whatever it is that you expect to experience. If you think you deserve to experience Hell, that's what you'll get. You'll create a nice Hell for yourself and you'll sustain it for as long as you desire, regardless of whether or not you are an older or younger soul. Anyone can learn to be more self-loathing than self-loving, and being a younger soul does not mean you are destined for an unpleasant afterlife.

Tangent:

 

This is why Micheal stated in the books I believe...  If heaven and he'll existed and they stated it exists because people expect it to exist.

 

The same way that HP land, or Tolkien park, or Narnia planes exist.

 

We choose for them to be there.

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CurvyWords

I'm sorry but I'm crying thinking of Michael banging their hands on the desk like "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!" 😂

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Juni
21 minutes ago, CurvyWords said:

I'm sorry but I'm crying thinking of Michael banging their hands on the desk like "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!" 😂

Or, "We give you the Truth and this is what you do with it?! No more Truth for you! "

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AnnaD

The Michaels are diligent and efficient at removing any ambiguity from their teachings that might otherwise occur from teachings coming from the Astral plane. The Michael teachings come from the Causal plane and The Michaels provide their communication clearly, diligently and without concessions to Astral Plane Teaching ambiguity. There is a huge difference between teachings from the Astral and the Causal. Give me the Michaels Causal Teaching anyday. 

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Christian
4 hours ago, Juni said:

Or, "We give you the Truth and this is what you do with it?! No more Truth for you! "

Micheal the Soup Nazi?

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Juni
58 minutes ago, Christian said:

Micheal the Soup Nazi?

I can't stand Seinfeld, so no, not a reference to that. 🙂

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BrianW

I'm pretty sure this person is a troll who read a quick article on TLE, claimed it didn't mesh with their existing beliefs, then promoted their own content to raise awareness and attempt to gain traffic. They wrote this post about 15 minutes after joining TLE to tell us all where Michael gets it wrong and doesn't fit with their beliefs / perspective.

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michael_k

Well, in terms of (potentially) difficult evolutionary processes that happen in between lives, there is the Life Review, and from what I remember of the Michael Entity saying about it, part of the Life Review process is a thorough realisation of how we affected the experiences of those around us. This could be a very hard and rather hellish pill for some to swallow, if they remained ignorant to their treatment of others throughout their life.

 

But, I am not a fan of heaven vs. hell scenarios at all, and it is one of the reasons why I read and chat on TLE for spiritual contemplation rather than going some place either more fear-mongering, or more sugarcoated in its outlook. Many religious outlooks of our contemporary world have both problems; they are either sugarcoated to the point where one needs to only believe and do the right thing to enter an eternal heaven, or fear driven to the point where one false move can land one in an equally eternal hellfire. Heaven and hell eternities just feel like emotional bullshit to me and it is one of the main reasons why I am not interested in pursuing most religions.

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Crystal

One thing that keeps bringing me back to the Michaels, and specifically TLE, IS because of Truth. The Michaels do not lie to us, or pussyfoot around or feed us happy comforting feel-good bullshit. Unfortunately, happy feel-good bullshit is RIFE in the spiritual world. 

 

I look on achieving the monads, transitions, Life Task, etc. as, in a way, the same as the process of growing up in a physical body. You don’t “decide” to grow, you just do. Babies don’t go “hmm, I think I’ll learn to walk today!” They pull themselves up, cruise around, toddle, stumble, fall, get back up, and then, after a while, BOOM! They’re walking!

 

Obviously, we don’t succeed in completing all our monads or fulfilling our Life Task in every life. We miss them, we blow them, we fail to complete them. But we don’t need to know “what the Fourth Internal Monad is” or whatever in order to complete it. People can and will complete the monads in spite of themselves. I recall the M’s saying that not all humans are their students - it’s the first two or three cadres who will take a specific interest in them. Other cadres find other teachers, or, I think it’s possible to go through lifetimes without really seeking out a teaching at all.

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