ARTISAN Popular Post Janet 17,865 Posted December 8, 2020 ARTISAN Popular Post Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 This has been in the news this week: Israeli says aliens exist (Google Israeli and aliens and you'll get more.) I find this interesting because Michael has indicated that a Galactic Federation exists, and much of what the Israeli source said seems to align with Michael's statements. The only thing I find questionable is the statement that Trump knows and wanted to reveal the truth, but the aliens convinced him not to do it because humans aren't ready. There is not a chance in the world that Trump would not reveal something because "humans aren't ready." So perhaps he knows, but I guarantee he was convinced to keep quiet for some reason that is to his benefit or for some reason that scared the shit out of him. ### Update from same day: I just finished a session with Michael and asked about this news item. Here is the Q&A: JanetE: In the news right now, an Israeli has claimed that it is true that aliens exist, that there is something like a Galactic Federation, that they have been working with US and other governments for years. Most statements seem very like what you have told us. However, the agent also said that Trump knows about this and was persuaded not to tell. Is this latter info true, and, if so, what could have possibly persuaded him not to tell? MEntity: From what we can see, his only motivation for withholding information is for fear of others laughing at him. Regardless of how many currently do laugh at him, he has a large base that takes him seriously. The fear that this base may be fractured or lost due to such claims is a motivation for withholding any information. Other than this, we do not see that he knows anything in particular in the first place. 31 Link to post Share on other sites
ARTISAN Janet 17,865 Posted December 8, 2020 Author ARTISAN Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Bump! Added content from my session today. 10 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Connie Stansell-Foy 1,998 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 I'd read that article or one just like it. I don't believe that Trump knew. It may have been in one of his briefings, but we all know he doesn't pay any attention to those. If this report makes it to Fox News, he might say something, or at that point his not wanting his base to start laughing at him might cause him to keep quiet, but other than that, I just don't see how he could be consciously aware of any such report. He doesn't have that much control over his mouth. 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites
BrianW 1,944 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) The other extremely dubious claim by Haim Eshed is that Americans have a joint underground base on Mars. Given that we don't even know how to get back to the Moon, let alone Mars, and our technology isn't quite there yet for humans to be able to survive on Mars (oxygen and nitrogen generation, water reclamation, protection from solar and cosmic radiation, etc), the only way this would happen would be if aliens were the ones to provide transportation (without anyone knowing), shelter, and resources. Rocket launches are pretty public events, even when they contain classified payloads, so we know that we aren't sending people there. There is an entire community out there of people who track launches and their orbits. Someone would notice if a rocket was heading extraterrestrial. Is there life, particularly intelligent life, on other planets in the universe? Ofcourse. Is there a Galactic Federation? Who knows. It wouldn't surprise me too much if there was one, but I doubt Kirk or Picard would recognize it. Is humanity ready to learn about any of this? Hell no. Once we get through the "we'll stop pointing our guns and nukes at you once we know you aren't a threat" phase, the next phase will be debates on whether aliens believe in and follow Jesus. We'd need to be solidly mid-Mature Soul and have the independent ability to for humans to travel outside of our solar system before consideration by a Galactic Federation. Given that we've been floating in orbit on various space stations no bigger than a football field with a living space of a four or five bedroom house for the past 40 years or so (Skylab, Mir, ISS), there really is very little reason for aliens to show a vested interest in us. We're way too primitive for anything beyond anthropological study and maybe a footnote in galactic stellar cartography. Edited December 10, 2020 by BrianW 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Juni 8,475 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, BrianW said: The other extremely dubious claim by Haim Eshed is that Americans have a joint underground base on Mars. Given that we don't even know how to get back to the Moon, let along Mars, and our technology isn't quite there yet for humans to be able to survive on Mars (oxygen and nitrogen generation, water reclamation, protection from solar and cosmic radiation, etc), the only way this would happen would be if aliens were the ones to provide transportation (without anyone knowing), shelter, and resources. Rocket launches are pretty public events, even when they contain classified payloads, so we know that we aren't sending people there. There is an entire community out there of people who track launches and their orbits. Someone would notice if a rocket was heading extraterrestrial. Is there life, particularly intelligent life, on other planets in the universe? Ofcourse. Is there a Galactic Federation? Who knows. It wouldn't surprise me too much if there was one, but I doubt Kirk or Picard would recognize it. is humanity ready to learn about any of this? Hell no. Once we get through the "we'll stop pointing our guns and nukes at you once we know you aren't a threat" phase, the next phase will be debates on whether aliens believe in and follow Jesus. We'd need to be solidly mid-Mature Soul and have the independent ability to for humans to travel outside of our solar system before consideration by a Galactic Federation. Given that we've been floating in orbit on various space stations no bigger than a football field with a living space of a four or five bedroom house for the past 40 years or so (Skylab, Mir, ISS), there really is very little reason for aliens to show a vested interest in us. We're way too primitive for anything beyond anthropological study and maybe a footnote in galactic stellar cartography. Earth: Mostly harmless. ---Douglas Adams 5 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Leela Corman 4,665 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 I deeply want there to be a Galactic Federation and I want to be part of it. But I also want to warn the aliens to stay away from humanity for a while, we are dangerous. Don't walk around Earth at night, wear shoes you can run in, all the standard shit. In all seriousness can you imagine how unsafe it would be for an off-planet person to show up in public here? We are a fucked up species. 7 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Troubadour 304 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Leela Corman said: I deeply want there to be a Galactic Federation and I want to be part of it. But I also want to warn the aliens to stay away from humanity for a while, we are dangerous. Don't walk around Earth at night, wear shoes you can run in, all the standard shit. In all seriousness can you imagine how unsafe it would be for an off-planet person to show up in public here? We are a fucked up species. Most of the people I know are kind. I worked with a local indigenous man and a 75 year old englishman this week. They gave me their time and expertise with no expectation of recompense. They had me stay at their house and they fed me. We shared stories and we sang songs of love and peace. Strangers are welcome here. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Heidi 7,841 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 18 hours ago, Troubadour said: Most of the people I know are kind. I worked with a local indigenous man and a 75 year old englishman this week. They gave me their time and expertise with no expectation of recompense. They had me stay at their house and they fed me. We shared stories and we sang songs of love and peace. Strangers are welcome here. I'm assuming you live nowhere near the southern United States. ; P 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites
PRIEST Maureen 22,296 Posted December 11, 2020 PRIEST Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 This meme always pops up in my mind when I read comments here... because it's so fucking true. 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Christian 3,231 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 There was a show on the "History" channel years ago that looked at modern presidents and conjectured on what if anything they knew. Their conclusion was that with Bush Sr being CIA director and in the intelligence most of his career....the was the most recent president to possibly have the most knowledge. No idea if it is true or not. But thought it was interesting tidbit. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Leela Corman 4,665 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Maureen said: This meme always pops up in my mind when I read comments here... because it's so fucking true. Yes! But please dear god not with the TNG cast, can I please have a combination of the Voyager and Discovery casts, keep Data and Troi and Riker in an alternate timeline 7 Link to post Share on other sites
AnnaD 10,237 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Galactic Federation sounds like a bunch of Army Intelligence people, for whom I have respect for, but I cannot imagine clean shaven short haired Old Souls in uniform. I think that they would be dressed in mufti (wearing what they wanted). And yet with Star Trek you totally get that hierarchical sense of top down military management. I don't think earth is a safe place for anyone given the lack of humanity shown to any living creature not within the dominant demographic. I feel for Emma Gonzalez and Pat McCabe. They have their work cut out for them with the great unwashed (uneducated) masses whose cognitive dissonance despite best evidence to the contrary rages on. We need some commanders who are Old Souls. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AnnaD 10,237 Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Samuel L Jackson is my idea of Old Soul commander, Dave Chappelle, Jacinda Ardern, Kate Mulgrew, Viola Davis, Whoopi Goldberg, Laverne Cox, Jon Stewart and Jeff Bridges. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
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