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8 hours ago, Juni said:

It seems to be a pretty common side effect from the mRNA jabs, from what I've read. I feel pretty shit, but it's nothing I need to call the doc about yet, so far. 

 

I wish I'd talked to my daughter-in-law who works at CAMH, a hospital in Toronto before I got my second vaccine. I was extremely anxious and worried about side effects because I have severe low platelets and a weak immune system. I was worried about having a flu-like side effect.

I had a sore arm for a few days and more tired than normal. When I had my blood work done a few days later my platelet count went up to 67 (have had a problem keeping it above 30 on medication) - normal is 150-450. For me this was a bonus.

 

I was told that younger people with strong immune systems usually have a stronger reaction, such as being extremely tired for a day or two. For the older age group and those with weakened immune systems the vaccine doesn't work as well or give as much immunity from COVID and normally don't have a severe reaction to the shot.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Diane said:

 

I wish I'd talked to my daughter-in-law who works at CAMH, a hospital in Toronto before I got my second vaccine. I was extremely anxious and worried about side effects because I have severe low platelets and a weak immune system. I was worried about having a flu-like side effect.

I had a sore arm for a few days and more tired than normal. When I had my blood work done a few days later my platelet count went up to 67 (have had a problem keeping it above 30 on medication) - normal is 150-450. For me this was a bonus.

 

I was told that younger people with strong immune systems usually have a stronger reaction, such as being extremely tired for a day or two. For the older age group and those with weakened immune systems the vaccine doesn't work as well or give as much immunity from COVID and normally don't have a severe reaction to the shot.

 

 

This is usually true, unless you have any autoimmune stuff going on-then it seems to be either it doesn't do much or it goes a bit wild. I had a very bad night-incredibly sore arm, constant nausea, dizzy and joint aches. This morning, the nausea has receded some but the aches are still in full swing. 

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5 minutes ago, Maureen said:

No way, I'm not a Sheep.jpg

Farmers who actually care about their flocks get them vaccinated. So no, they aren't a sheep. Their healthcare coverage would be better if they were. 

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@Diane, I also read so many people having flu-like side effects and tiredness and how it meant having a strong immune reaction yet despite being young and female (estrogen is an immune enhancer by the way so women are expected to have more robust responses to infections in general but the downside is a greater predisposition to autoimmune disorders though) I didn't have a reaction and I wondered: "does that mean I'm not generating immunity"? , are my cells seeing that lil' spiky thing and being like "meh"?XD But I don't think that's likely for me and for many others. I read somewhere that in the trial groups a about 1/4th of people on the trials didn't experience side effects yet generated an immune response. 

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1 hour ago, Marigold said:

@Diane, I also read so many people having flu-like side effects and tiredness and how it meant having a strong immune reaction yet despite being young and female (estrogen is an immune enhancer by the way so women are expected to have more robust responses to infections in general but the downside is a greater predisposition to autoimmune disorders though) I didn't have a reaction and I wondered: "does that mean I'm not generating immunity"? , are my cells seeing that lil' spiky thing and being like "meh"?XD But I don't think that's likely for me and for many others. I read somewhere that in the trial groups a about 1/4th of people on the trials didn't experience side effects yet generated an immune response. 

 

I almost never have a vaccine reaction. With Covid I didn't have it either. The most that happens is that my arm is a little sore. But I think I did get immunized since I work in a hospital and I didn't get covid. I think my body is strong and I hardly get sick anymore.

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Got my one and only Pfizer a couple of hours ago. I had Covid in February, not a full 6 months since, but a 3rd wave seems to be beginning here and I didn't want to wait longer. Very professional nurse: needle in first and a warning of "Slight jab" afterwards 😄 So far I feel nothing different. Feel even more like a world citizen, though. Bought a beetroot brownie to celebrate!

My kid's dad got the same vaccine but didn't have the illness, so we get to compare side effects.
I'm so glad my 76 year old mom is also fully vaccinated! As a triple grandma she needs to be protected.

 

EDIT: I was a bit light-headed for a couple of hours, and a slightly sore muscle around the injection, only when I moved my arm, no other side effects. My brother who's had his 2 Pfizers, only had itching around the spot. My ex had the 1-in-a-1000 side effect of numbness in half his face. Mom had two days of sore arm, tiredness and a slight fever.

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I saw this a few minutes ago... ✨

 

French President Macron on vaccination requirements: “I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.  

 

"In France, those who do not get vaccinated will no longer be able to go to restaurants, cafes (from the beginning of August), cinemas and museums (from July 21) and get on airplanes or trains (again from August). Alternatively, you will have to submit a negative test, which will no longer be free (49 euros for the PCR, 29 for the antigen). 

 

Macron then announced the vaccination obligation for medical personnel and for those who work in contact with fragile people. Since September 15, a nurse who has refused to be vaccinated will no longer be able to go to work and receive a salary. 

 

"We cannot make those who have the civic sense to get vaccinated bear the burden of inconvenience," Macron said. "The restrictions will weigh on others, those who for reasons incomprehensible in the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment still hesitate to use the only weapon available against the pandemic, the vaccine." 

 

"I am aware of what I am asking you," he said, "and I know that you are ready for this commitment. This is, in a sense, part of your sense of duty."

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54 minutes ago, Maureen said:

I saw this a few minutes ago... ✨

 

French President Macron on vaccination requirements: “I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.  

 

"In France, those who do not get vaccinated will no longer be able to go to restaurants, cafes (from the beginning of August), cinemas and museums (from July 21) and get on airplanes or trains (again from August). Alternatively, you will have to submit a negative test, which will no longer be free (49 euros for the PCR, 29 for the antigen). 

 

Macron then announced the vaccination obligation for medical personnel and for those who work in contact with fragile people. Since September 15, a nurse who has refused to be vaccinated will no longer be able to go to work and receive a salary. 

 

"We cannot make those who have the civic sense to get vaccinated bear the burden of inconvenience," Macron said. "The restrictions will weigh on others, those who for reasons incomprehensible in the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment still hesitate to use the only weapon available against the pandemic, the vaccine." 

 

"I am aware of what I am asking you," he said, "and I know that you are ready for this commitment. This is, in a sense, part of your sense of duty."

 

That news was from a few days ago... and then there was backlash. The resistance of the regressives to progressive change is strong. We shall overcome. ✨ This is from POLITICO today.

 

PARIS — The French government, which last week introduced some of Europe’s toughest measures against COVID-19, has been forced to row back on some restrictions following a pushback from industries and street protests.

 

Among the new rules, French President Emmanuel Macron sought to turbo-drive vaccinations by making proof of vaccination or immunity mandatory to enter cafés, restaurants and a range of other venues this summer.

 

The scheme, which goes further than other big EU countries, was introduced to help break a fourth wave of COVID-19 infections in France, driven by the more contagious Delta variant. On Monday, the government spokesperson Gabriel Attal warned that the increase in cases was “stratospheric” after France’s incidence rate increased by 125 percent in a week.

 

“Our rates were low, but this wave [of infections] can go up very quickly and reach very high numbers,” he told reporters.

 

The COVID green pass — a digital or paper certificate that contains proof of vaccination or of immunity — is scheduled to come into effect next month. Wednesday is seen as a test day for the pass that will be introduced in museums, galleries and cinemas for events exceeding 50 people.  

 

But barely a week after it was announced the scheme is already coming under significant strain. More than 100,000 people, many of them waving anti-vaccination placards, took to the streets to protest against the pass on Sunday, raising fears the pass will become a symbol for dissatisfaction against Macron.

 

On Monday, the government made several concessions, including lowering fines for noncompliance, pushing back deadlines and changing the rules for shopping centers. The government faces more hurdles ahead as the bill introducing the new measures went to parliament Tuesday. A group of senators has already indicated they will refer the bill to France’s Constitutional Council.

 

France’s measures are in many ways unique. Its requirement to show a COVID passport to access such a wide range of venues, including restaurants, cafés, cinemas, theaters and shopping centers goes further than what has been attempted in most Western countries. The pass will also be required on trains, planes and coaches.

 

Meanwhile, the U.K.’s Boris Johnson has pressed ahead with the planned “Freedom Day,” lifting most legal restrictions. Yet in a sign of convergence in the face of a wave of Delta variant infections, the U.K.’s buccaneering ambitions have already been tempered. After initially ruling out COVID passports for domestic use, Johnson announced a similar scheme for English nightclubs and other crowded venues from the end of September. Only proof of vaccination, not a negative test or proof of recent infection, would be acceptable as a passport to entry though — a move interpreted as being aimed at encouraging younger people to have the jab.

 

The removal of COVID measures was widely hailed as a way to restart the economy, but many British businesses are currently hamstrung by staff shortages due to the number of people being instructed to self-isolate. A Downing Street spokesman insisted on Tuesday it was an “important tool” for stopping the spread of infections and urged people to comply.

 

Shifting rules and deadlines

 

The extension of the COVID-19 green pass in France was initially hailed as a success for Macron after vaccination appointments skyrocketed. 3.7 million people booked vaccination appointments on the popular Doctolib health website after the new restrictions were announced.  

 

But the government is still fine-tuning the details with industry bodies, raising accusations of confusing improvisation and impromptu decision-making.

 

“They keep going back and forth, it’s unbearable and it’s been the same story since the beginning of the epidemic,” says Loic Hervé, a centrist senator and member of the opposition who is against the pass. “We know there are some [aspects of the pass] that are inapplicable, the rules are still not set in stone.”

 

On Tuesday, the government was discussing the rules for shopping centers with industry leaders and local officials, after the government’s legal advisor the Conseil d’Etat said the pass was a “disproportionate” restriction on access to food.

 

The government has also been forced to cut the fines for non-compliance from €45,000 to €7,500 for businesses and is giving bars and restaurants more time to vaccinate their staff and introduce controls.

 

Despite the concessions, café and restaurant managers say the pass is unworkable and intrusive as they are required to check vaccination certificates against the ID documents of their customers.

 

“The measures are far too radical, and it’s going to crash the economy,” says David Zenouda, bar owner and representative for the restaurant union UMIH. “Some bars and beach restaurants have terraces with over 200 seats, how are they going to manage?”

 

Opposition catalyst

 

Political opposition against the pass appears to be building after the leftwing Socialist Party on Monday joined the far-left France Unbowed and Marine Le Pen's National Rally in opposing it.

 

Instead, they issued a statement calling on the government to make the COVID-19 vaccination mandatory in France “so that one half of the population isn’t checking the other half”.

 

The National Assembly and the Senate are set to examine the bill introducing the COVID green pass and mandatory jabs for staff working in hospitals, care homes and clinics this week. It’s also possible the Constitutional Council will decide next week that the government is going a step too far in restricting freedoms.

 

But there may be more political trouble down the road.

 

On Sunday, a motley crew of discontents, libertarians and anti-vaxxers gathered in relatively small but unexpected protests across the country. More demonstrations against the COVID pass are planned for next weekend.

 

The protests are already drawing comparisons with the anti-establishment Yellow Vests movement that that was sparked by opposition to Macron’s fuel-tax policies in 2018.

 

“The government must watch out for [discontent] among the working classes,” said Hervé, “you can’t infantilize people, you’ve to talk to the country. It doesn’t work to shout at them.”

 

The fear among government circles is that the pass will galvanize anti-Macron sentiment and be a magnet for opposition strands that have been kept at bay during the pandemic.

 

Nine months from the presidential election, that is something the president will be keen to avoid.

 

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1 hour ago, Maureen said:

the adolescence of my daughters

Since when did Macron have young daughters? Something must be lost in translation...or I'm not catching up with news 😂

 

Sorry I know this is off topic, but I can't help but notice it…

 

in other news, San Francisco has 75% of residents age 12 or above fully vaccinated. However the case is on the rise due to variants. Luckily, the death toll remain close to zero in the past few weeks. 

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38 minutes ago, Cong said:

Since when did Macron have young daughters? Something must be lost in translation...or I'm not catching up with news 😂

 

Sorry I know this is off topic, but I can't help but notice it…

 

in other news, San Francisco has 75% of residents age 12 or above fully vaccinated. However the case is on the rise due to variants. Luckily, the death toll remain close to zero in the past few weeks. 

 

@Cong, I looked it up... I think he may be referring to Brigitte Macron's two daughters (??) so they would be Emmanuel Macron's step-daughters. Although you are likely right about the (French/English) translation as Tiphaine is 37 and Laurence is 44... hardly adolescents anymore. 

 

Children: Tiphaine Auzière (daughter), Laurence Auzière-Jourdan (daughter), Sébastien Auzière (son)

 

That's good news about the vaccination rate in San Francisco. 💞

 

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We are a population of 5.398.804 in Norway. Yesterday 5 million of us had been vaccinated, and so far 75% has had their first vaccine and 40% has had their second (all above 18 years old). It's expected that all above 18 will be fully vaccinated by end of October this year. I've had my first (Pfizer) and everything went fine.

 

Many knows that the more opportunities a virus has to spread, the more it replicates and can change. More people still need to understand that traveling without a vaccine they contribute to that - and become are a danger to society. But hopefully will these begin to see restrictions in their freedom more and more when more people are vaccinated in the different countries.

 

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13 hours ago, Maureen said:

French President Macron on vaccination requirements: “I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us."

 

@Cong, I think the translation in reverse would look better if it was something like this:  “I no longer have any intention of sacrificing our lives, our time, our freedom and the youth of our children, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us."  

 

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5 hours ago, Ingun said:

We are a population of 5.398.804 in Norway. Yesterday 5 million of us had been vaccinated, and so far 75% has had their first vaccine and 40% has had their second (all above 18 years old). It's expected that all above 18 will be fully vaccinated by end of October this year. I've had my first (Pfizer) and everything went fine

In Brazil, we are still far from this percentage. 17% have so far scheduled the two doses. But there is an acceleration in the pace of vaccination... I think that from now on it will be faster

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I got finally my 2nd dose of vaccination last friday. After 1st dose I was only tired couple of days. This time side effects were much more stronger. I have been extremely tired, even exhausted, my arm was swollen and partially numb couple of days, I have had headache, muscle pain and mild nausea whole week and dizzy feeling. I would rather take these symptoms than covid anyway, it just means that the vaccine works. 

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2 hours ago, Katja said:

I got finally my 2nd dose of vaccination last friday. After 1st dose I was only tired couple of days. This time side effects were much more stronger. I have been extremely tired, even exhausted, my arm was swollen and partially numb couple of days, I have had headache, muscle pain and mild nausea whole week and dizzy feeling. I would rather take these symptoms than covid anyway, it just means that the vaccine works. 

@Katja I hope you will feel better soon again. I don't know how it's in Finland, but in my country it has been encouraged to report any side-/after effects. I'm curious about which type of vaccination you got?

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17 hours ago, Ingun said:

@Katja I hope you will feel better soon again. I don't know how it's in Finland, but in my country it has been encouraged to report any side-/after effects. I'm curious about which type of vaccination you got?

I got Pfizer both times. It is the same in Finland, side effects should be reported. 

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Got my vaccine (Pfizer) yesterday.

Since I already had Covid in February, it means that this was my second vaccination. According to current rules I am through with it.

 

Yesterday I was a bit feverish, arm is sour, naturally, but I think I can go tomorrow to work 😝 without problem.

I hope I won´t have side effects later either.

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LAMBDA

 

Lambda variant demonstrates vaccine resistance

By Zachary Rosenthal, AccuWeather staff writer

Researchers at Japan’s University of Tokyo are warning that the lambda variant may be resistant to vaccines and is highly infectious, Newsweek reported. The variant, which was first identified in Peru, has been found in the United States. Japanese researchers believe three mutations in the variant make it resistant to antibodies induced by vaccination. The paper also identified two mutations that make it highly infectious. "Lambda can be a potential threat to the human society," senior researcher Kei Sato told Reuters.

 

GEEZ, I wish this not to be true, but if it is, that's bringing us all back to where we were 1 and a half years ago, now dealing with the potential Killer-virus.

Take Care!!!

 

and this:

Oh deer. Massive amounts of deer found with COVID-19 antibodies

By Mark Puleo, AccuWeather staff writer

It’s no secret that the United States has been one of the hardest-hit nations from COVID-19, but within the U.S., one population has been dealt a particularly severe blow – the white-tailed deer. According to Nature.com, findings from a recent publication show that one-third of all white-tailed deer in the Northeast have previously been infected with the coronavirus, evidenced by antibodies found in the animals. According to virologist Arinjay Banerjee, the results represent the first proof of widespread exposure in a population of wild animals. Banerjee added that it remains a mystery as to how the deer were exposed in the first place.

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This is from our Ontario Provincial Government.

 

Two unvaccinated PC MPPs have until 5pm to get their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine 
 

If they don't, and can't provide a signed letter of exemption, they'll be turfed from the Progressive Conservative caucus. Sources tell 680 NEWS, Christina Mitas of Scarborough Centre and Rick Nicholls of Chatham-Kent-Leamington are the two holdouts. All New Democrats, Liberals and Green MPPs are vaccinated.

 

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The latest from Ontario, Canada:

 

Vaccinations need to increase, contacts to decrease to avoid 'substantial' 4th wave: Modelling

 

New modelling from the Ontario COVID-19 science advisory table shows vaccinations will need to increase and contacts need to decrease to 70 per cent of pre-pandemic levels to avoid a “substantial” fourth wave in the province that could see new cases surge to 9,000 a day.

 

The science table says vaccinations need to accelerate to 85 per cent of the population fully vaccinated in order to have an impact. The province is currently at 76 per cent.

 

With schools reopening and more workplaces returning to work combined with the Delta variant, the modelling shows we could reach 9,000 COVID-19 cases per day if transmission increases by 25 per cent by the beginning of October.

 

If transmission decreases by 25 per cent, mostly due to reduced contacts, they predict the province could see around 500 cases per day.

 

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The province says COVID-19 vaccine bookings more than doubled after certificate announcement

 

Could yesterday’s announcement on mandatory vaccine certificates for non-essential businesses lead to more people getting the shot? That appears to be the case, according to Ontario’s health minister.

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