20130216 OMW: Life Quadrant Positions

[Kasia]

OMW - Feb 16, 2013 - Life Quadrant Positions

 

Channel: Troy Tolley

 

[MEntity] Hello to each of you. We are here, now. We can begin a discussion about the subject of Quadrates, or Life Quadrant Positions.

 

[MEntity] Life Quadrant Positions are a form of Configuration.

 

[antinius] But are "not the same concept as social or formal Configurations?"

 

[MEntity] Configurations are a broad term for any group of fragments whose dynamic is contributory.

 

[MEntity] Most Configurations discussed among our students are those with long-term projects as emphasis, and are specifically-formed groupings.

 

[MEntity] However, Life Quadrant Positions are how one tends to behave in terms of contribution in ANY dynamic generated between the self and another.

 

[antinius] I can see the distinction.

 

[MEntity] These are default Positions one will tend toward, and are easily usurped when one steps into more formal Positions as part of more formal, or even social, Configurations.

 

[MEntity] The contributory Positions of Configurations beyond Life Quadrant Positions is relative to the Task, or Project. The contributory Positions of the Life Quadrant Position is relative to one's general sense of strength on one's own.

 

[MEntity] Knowing one's Life Quadrant Position is helpful for not only understanding one's personal sense of strength of contribution, but can also help to explain how others tend to respond to you, expect of you, and receive from you.

 

[MEntity] The Life Quadrant Position is not something with an agenda, Task, or Project, but is simply a part of how fragments relate to one another and find the most basic forms of support in any other fragment.

 

[MEntity] The Life Quadrant Positions are not dependent upon an organized dynamic of 4 people, but are Positions inherent in every fragment so that every fragment can have access to that kind of basic input and contribution from any other fragment, regardless of intimacy, freindships, status, distance, etc.

 

[MEntity] For example, wherever you are, and with whomever you are, you can access Love, Knowledge, Compassion, and Power from any and all other fragments with whom you may interact.

 

[MEntity] The reason every fragment defaults to one of these Positions, and the reason every fragment can access the benefit of these Positions through any other fragments is because they are the most vital and persistent Positions that every fragment most often needs as part of a life.

 

[MEntity] These Positions are Intimate Positions, regardless of with whom they are shared.

 

[MEntity] This is why the kindness of a stranger can mean so much, even when you have never known this person before, and may never see that person again. The intimacy is inherent in the dynamic because of the resonance generated.

 

[MEntity] Understanding the social dynamic of a group, or an informal Configuration, can be helpful for understanding the behaviors of individuals within that group, but regardless of their Position as part of that social Configuration, beneath that is their Life Quadrant Position, which then tends to come into effect when outside of that group.

 

[MEntity] This has often been the reason for why someone seems so different when in a social situation, but then relates to you very differently when one-on-one.

 

[MEntity] Their Life Quadrant Position is what comes to the surface in those more intimate settings.

 

[MEntity] The same goes for how you function.

 

[MEntity] You may gravitate toward the Power Position when in a social group setting, but one-on-one find that your strength is Compassion, or Love.

 

[MEntity] The Life Quadrant Position often comes from one's Axis of Essence, but is not ruled by that correlation.

 

[MEntity] So Servers and Priests will tend toward the Love Position; Artisans and Sages tend toward the Knowledge Position; Warriors and Kings toward the Power Position; and Scholars toward the Compassion/Support Position.

 

[MEntity] Those correlations can be relevant in terms of Essence, but any particular Personality/lifetime can develop its own Quadrant Position that goes beyond the tendency of Essence.

 

[MEntity] However, the default Life Quadrant Position will still tend to be Axis-related, and so the dynamic of one's Essence and Personality in any given lifetime can give clues to one's default Position.

 

[MEntity] For example, if one is a Priest Essence, this would tend toward the default Love Position, but if the Personality has a great number of Overleaves and influences relative to the Action Axis, then he or she may have a tendency toward the Power Position.

 

[MEntity] We will suggest a moment now for calculating this for yourself. We will offer the correlations here, while you add up the influences.

 

[MEntity] Using the link below, look for your Essence, Role, Casting, Overleaves, Primary Centering, Soul Age, and Level, and determine how much Inspiration, Expression, Action, and Assimilation are in your dynamic:

 

[MEntity] http://goo.gl/3wHMY

 

[MEntity] Use the "value" line for Level.

 

[MEntity] LOVE = INSPIRATION; KNOWLEDGE = EXPRESSION; POWER = ACTION; SUPPORT/COMPASSION = ASSIMILATION

 

[Janet] I'm both Artisan and heavy on the expression axis. So Knowledge for me.

 

[MEntity] WORKSHOP MOMENT

 

[Maureen] So far I have a real mix Michael

 

[GeraldineB] I think I use most of the positions, but I'm definitely dominant on the knowledge one -- followed by compassion, then maybe power, then maybe love

 

[Maureen] I'm Expression/Action, then Inspiration, then Assimilation. So Knowledge/Power, Love, Compassion (based on the chart)

 

[MEntity] What you want to do, if you choose to grasp the nature of your default Position, is to look for that Primary Quadrant Position. There is always Secondary Position, but rarely a Tertiary or Quaternary backup.

 

[MEntity] The Positions describe qualities that every person can call upon, but we are not describing qualities of interest, we are discussing default contributions of strength that affect others.

 

[GeraldineB] Then, for me it's ALWAYS Expression/Knowledge

 

[antinius] The numbers say Expression/Knowledge for me, but intuitively I feel more like Compassion/Assimilation

 

[MEntity] Once you have determined your Primary Quadrant Position based on the math of your personal dynamics, you may then see from that same math what your Secondary Quadrant Position may be.

 

[MEntity] The Secondary only tends to come into effect upon expectation and demand by another fragment.

 

[Maureen] I may be Power as my Primary then and Knowledge as my Secondary (based on specualtion and the chart) -- but I'm not sure

 

[MEntity] For example, your Primary may be Knowledge, but someone is desperate for Love, so you offer Inspiration "in a pinch."

 

[Janet] That helps Michael. So my secondary is probably Love. I have the second highest number of over leaves on the inspiration axis.

 

[MEntity] The Secondary can come up, as well, when you are alongside another with the same Primary, and one of you is enough of that Primary for the receiving fragment, so you can shift to your Secondary to help complement the dynamic.

 

[Maureen] I feel that do whatever is required in a group -- I watch for what's needed.

 

[MEntity] If the math of your Overleaves and Essence do not reveal a Primary and Secondary Position to which you resonate, then this tends to be the case for one or both of these scenarios:

 

[MEntity] Inaccurate channeling or assessment of Essence and Personality dynamics, and/or Imprinting.

 

[MEntity] If your nature is to be more inspiring, but you were always in a position that demanded of you to be action/power, then the Personality will stick with what it has learned, rather than default to its own dynamics.

 

[MEntity] Regardless of how one may naturally default, this can be completely overridden over time.

 

[MEntity] So much so that it feels almost as if it is natural to you.

 

[MEntity] This is not a good or bad thing, but a result of choices made, consciously or subconsciously, that helped shape your sense of contributory strengths.

 

[MEntity] Whatever your Primary may calculate out to be, and regardless of your Secondary, you would want to consider to which of the Positions you feel you most relate and identify.

 

[MEntity] If there is a discrepancy, then it is an opportunity for you to determine if there is an underlying strength that is more natural to you that you may have dismissed, and can learn to own again, or you can wholly embrace your chosen Position over your inherent Position, and know that it is your choice.

 

[MEntity] We will share some key elements of each Position to help in your understanding and assessment:

 

[MEntity] LOVE - Inspiration - tends to wish to reflect, represent, and encourage the most possibility and potential in another person; tends to like to initiate; tends to start many things, but needs the details to be carried out by other Positions; tends to feel obligated to care when others will not; tends to allow room for difficult people, even to their own detriment;

 

[MEntity] KNOWLEDGE - Expression - tends to wish to be exemplary in what has been learned; tends to see the bigger picture and patterns of the life; feels strongly about giving form to ideas and ideals, and not leave them as mere pondering; tends toward easier time making decisions; tends to find the truth not threatening;

 

[MEntity] POWER - Action - tends toward tangible results, plans of action, and sustained motivation; tends to have access to resources that allow for implementing plans; tends to be resourceful and unwavering; tends not to be daunted by what needs to be done;

 

[MEntity] COMPASSION/SUPPORT - Assimilation - tends toward listening and observing; tends to easily see obstacles and challenges that need to be addressed; tends toward allowing room for struggles, but not at the expense of intentions; tends toward empathy in a way that allows for true comprehension and understanding; tends not to be afraid of being wrong or making mistakes.

 

[MEntity] As you can see, each of these are a part of each of you, but one of these is how you best contribute to others.

 

[MEntity] Based on these limited descriptions, where are each of you in terms of your calculated default vs your sense of preference?

 

[Maureen] I'm still struggling Michael

 

[MEntity] What do your calculations reveal, Maureen?

 

[GeraldineB] I'm definitely on target for Knowledge as my primary position and compassion/assimilation for secondary

 

[Maureen] I feel my strength is Love but I gravitate towards Knowledge

 

[GeraldineB] do you use knowledge to "perfect" Love?

 

[Maureen] yes -- I think I do

 

[GeraldineB] Then Love is probably your strength as you work to shore it up

 

[antinius] Three 5's, three 4's (plus a 3 and a 2), so Knowledge and Compassion; a know-it-all Sage with a soft spot. I like to share knowledge, but some of my most intense interactions seem to be more about Compassion.

 

[Maureen] Love can be boring -- LOL

 

[GeraldineB] LOL

 

[antinius] LOL, yes Jesus

 

[Maureen] Hey -- i'm not that far along ...yet

 

[Maureen]

 

[antinius] We're all on the path.

 

[GeraldineB] c'mon, Maureen . . .you're a fricken Old 7 Priest -- of course it's "love"

 

[Maureen] but my OLs say it differently

 

[MEntity] Do you find your math reveals your strength as Power, Maureen?

 

[Maureen] Power and Knowledge are tied -- at 3 each

 

[Maureen] Inspiration is 2

 

[Maureen] or Love

 

[antinius] I get Power and Knowledge from you sitting at a computer in LA, Maureen. ; )

 

[Maureen] ...and I feel that I play all the positions that Michael mentioned

 

[Maureen] This is frickin hard! LOL

 

[MEntity] We see your math as being 2 Inspiration, 3 Action, 2 Expression, and 1 Assimillation.

 

[Maureen] so I suck at math now!

 

[Maureen] LOL

 

[Maureen] I know what I did -- I included my Mercury Bodytype (that gave me an extra Expression)

 

[Maureen] So yes then -- it would be Power (at 3) Michael

 

[antinius] Power doesn't follow the instructions!

 

[Maureen] it doesn't look like it!

 

[Maureen] The description of the Knowledge position reads as my Life Task -- this isn't easy to figure out!

 

[MEntity] We think we have you, Maureen, as: ROLE and CENTER = Inspiration; CASTING, LEVEL, and ATTITUDE = Action; AGE and GOAL = Expression; MODE = Assimilation

 

[Maureen] Yes Michael -- so Power is my natural position then?

 

[MEntity] If you are having trouble discerning your Life Quadrant Position, you are comparing too many contexts of behavior. Your pursuit of the Life Task is a personal pursuit, and not a general contributory scenario.

 

[Maureen] I'm obviously in the negative pole of my Attitude! (Supposition)

 

[MEntity] However, in your case Maureen, however much you relate to all of the Positions, you may be able to safely say that your default Life Quadrant Position is strongly motivated by GETTING THINGS DONE, effecting tangible results, a constant movement, activity, and calibration for making things happen, not only for yourself, but how those things for yourself affect others.

 

[MEntity] You cannot simply sit by and watch.

 

[Maureen] That sounds spot on Michael -- as tiring as that can be

 

[Maureen] ...at times

 

[MEntity] We say that affectionately, not as a fact. Of course you can sit and watch, but it is not in your nature to do so. Even when you choose not to affect a change, it stays with you as somehow your responsibility to do so.

 

[Maureen] yes it does

 

[Maureen] Thanks Michael (with affection)

 

[MEntity] If it is valid that your Life Quadrant Position is naturally POWER, then you may find yourself at the hub of a great deal of responsibility, obligation, and demands, even if not explicitly asked of you.

 

[MEntity] And we do not mean this in the sense that one may have duties for a job, but as a part of the basic dynamic of relationships.

 

[Maureen] Yes - I understand

 

[antinius] Michael, would you agree that my default is Knowledge and my secondary is Compassion?

 

[antinius] Or do I have them reversed?

 

[MEntity] Rod, yes, we see your assessment as valid.

 

[antinius] Knowledge, then Compassion? Any further insights on that?

 

[MEntity] Rod, when we share the next set of information in a moment about these Positions, it may shed further insight.

 

[antinius] OK thanks.

 

[Janet] I believe for my default one-on-one position knowledge is probably correct and I concur with love as the secondary. But the Power position resonates strongly -- perhaps that is more the position I gravitate to in groups and 'situations'?

 

[MEntity] Our next set of information may help understand this. We will continue, then.

 

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[MEntity] Working with what you have calculated as your Primary Life Quadrant Position, consider what we have to share next, and then bring in the different positions to which you resonate or may feel is more accurate than your calculated position, if that is the case for you.

 

[MEntity] What we share now is a consideration for "taking responsibility" for your Life Quadrant Position.

 

[MEntity] In other words, regardless of any other Position to which you resonate, consider that your Life Quadrant Position is in effect and has an effect, with or without your realizing it. That is because Life Quadrant Positions are in effect whether consciously or not.

 

[MEntity] So if one's Position is Knowledge, regardless of how dismissed that strength is, Knowledge Position will tend to find it expected of him or her to "know better," to have insight, to give advice, to figure things out, to be examples, to be available with wisdom or information.

 

[MEntity] The Knowledge Position will also tend to think that others cannot provide the same kind of insight and knowledge about life that is not already known by the Knowledge Position.

 

[MEntity] Power can tend to be drawn into positions of resource, availability, and presence even as they try to focus on their own work.

 

[MEntity] Power can tend to develop a resentment for the demand and expecation on their energy, if this is not managed well.

 

[MEntity] Love can tend to be drawn into positions of intimacy with complete strangers that often requires awkward and uncomfortable establishing of boundaries, and often expected to be the source of inspiration in others' lives.

 

[MEntity] Compassion can tend to be expected only to listen, but not to contribute. And often to listen to the same things, over and over. Compassion is often "just supposed to be there," but not necessarily do anything.

 

[MEntity] All of the things we described above are parts of the "job" of each Position, and those expectations and demands on the Position do not go away. One can only learn to own his or her Position in more effective ways. And the way to do this is to become more conscious of that Position as it plays out in your life, and then to own it, to be responsible for it, and to let it be a strength, not a burden.

 

[MEntity] You may not like that you are a Power Position, but you are good at it, and when managed as a strength, it becomes free from the weight of demand and expectation.

 

[MEntity] You may not like that you are in a Knowledge Position, but you are good at it, and your ideas, examples, and expression matter to those around you so much so that you are often used as a model for many behaviors in others.

 

[MEntity] You may not like that you are in a Love Position, but you know how to bring out the best potential in yourself and others, and when you dismiss this impact, you can squash potential, both in yourself and others.

 

[MEntity] Taking responsibility for your Life Quadrant Position is profoundly empowering, not only as you embrace the strength as it is experienced by others, but because it frees you to be more of who you actually are, and by contributing more from how you CAN, instead of how you think or wish you can.

 

[MEntity] Think of your Positions in these highly-simplified terms:

 

[MEntity] I AM LOVE - I can help you get started

 

[MEntity] I AM KNOWLEDGE - I can offer you a map

 

[MEntity] I AM POWER - I can help you get there

 

[MEntity] I AM COMPASSION - I can ride with you

[MEntity] In those simplistic terms, how do each of you find your calculated Positions resonate?

 

[Janet] I think Power resonates with me far more than Love, although Knowledge is almost certainly my primary

 

[MEntity] Janet, which is your calculated Primary?

 

[Janet] Knowledge.

 

[Maureen] well I am a "super" coach -- so yes it is resonating now Michael

 

[antinius] I think I got it right--Knowledge, with Compassion "in a pinch"

 

[GeraldineB] I was truly laughing at "I can offer you a map" -- that is so me (and it's the way I practice the pinched secondary, compassion)

 

[antinius] I LOL'd at the map comment too!

 

[Maureen] I am noticing Michael, that these positions don't line up with the Support Circle positions (by title).

 

[MEntity] NOTE: if one were calculating and found a tie among the results, we would suggest doubling the count for Essence, first, and if this were not to help, then double the Attitude. If those do not work, then you might resort to simple self-assessment of which tends to be the Primary.

 

[MEntity] In what way do you mean, Maureen?

 

[Maureen] well everyone is their own Power position

 

[Maureen] and Compassion in a Support Circle is much more "outspoken" -- the Quadrate Compassion position reminds me of the Love Position in the Support Circle

 

[antinius] Michael, is there also a “You may not like that you are in a Compassion Position” statement?

 

[Maureen] for example...

 

[MEntity] Yes, since Life Quadrant Positions are part of a vast network dynamic among fragments, they are only contributory, and not central to any Configuration.

 

[MEntity] Maureen, the Compassion Position can be outspoken, but only after listening, regardless of what Configuration. In terms of Life Quadrant Position, the scenario for being in the position to listen is far more often a part of the life than one who only has that Position as part of a Configuration with a task.

 

[MEntity] Rod, we can say: You may not like that you are in a Compassion Position, but your capacity to care matters, makes a difference, for both you and the receiver, even if it inconveniences you for the moment. Caring does not mean having to dimiss your own needs, but dismissing the needs of others does not serve your own, either.

 

[MEntity] We will open the floor for a round of questions regarding this subject before we close, if there are any questions.

 

[GeraldineB] Does the design of Personality include weighing the factors for OLs based on what the Quadrate will be like?

 

[MEntity] Geraldine, Configuration Positions outside of Life Quadrant Positions are relative to the project or task, and while one's position within those Configurations can be served by the strengths of a Life Quadrant Position, they are not dependent upon them.

 

[MEntity] Someone may have a Life Quadrant Position of Love, but shine in a Position of Power for one Configuration, and as Knowledge in another, and fall into the Eccentric Position when at a party.

 

[MEntity] The Positions of Configurations are defined and fulfilled more by their relative position in that group, rather than by the inclinations of a Personality and Essence. Consider the difference between how one may apply oneself in the work place versus how one may behave at home.

 

[Maureen] So how would Power Position in a Quadrate fit into the Support Group -- as the individual takes up that position?

 

[MEntity] Maureen, if one has a Life Quadrant Position of Power, and is the Power Position in a Quadrate Configuration, then one would simply be playing a Power Position in a Configuration who happens to also have a Life Quadrant Position of Power, and who is always at the center of her own Support Circle.

 

[MEntity] Though the same term is used to describe these Positions among different groups, there is no conflict or confusion among them as they are played out.

 

[Maureen] So I wouldn't necessarily play an actual position in someone's Support Circle -- but I would help them to actualize their own position on Power -- like Self-Empowerment?

 

[MEntity] If it helps, think of the Power Position within the Support Circle as the EMPOWERED Position, while the Power Position in other contexts is the EMPOWERING Position.

 

[Maureen] Yes -- Thank you!

 

[MEntity] Your Life Quadrant Position has little relevance to what Position you may play in someone else's Support Circle.

 

[Maureen] I can see that now -- Thanks

 

[MEntity] We will conclude here for today, then. Each of you can take your time to consider how you play your Life Quadrant Position in life, and consider how others may randomly play them in your own life. These positions are more obvious when interacting with those not in your personal circle, but as you are a general participant in life.

 

[MEntity] However, when you gather in groups of 4 or fewer, you may also see your Life Quadrant Position come to light, and those of others.

[petra]

Such a GREAT Workshop, thanks to the participants, Michael & Troy!!!

Very helpful in understanding our interactions with others, the math and the result I got for me, fits me to a T!!!

Love to come upon such gems, as a younger member of this community!!!

[Maureen]

3 hours ago, petra said:

Such a GREAT Workshop, thanks to the participants, Michael & Troy!!!

Very helpful in understanding our interactions with others, the math and the result I got for me, fits me to a T!!!

Love to come upon such gems, as a younger member of this community!!!

 

@petra, this was an empowering session. It took awhile for us to sort out what was what.  What were your results? Do you find you have naturally, comfortably done this in your life? Have you checked out others in your life to see how all of you "fit" together? I've thought (after this session) how difficult it would be to be imprinted with a different position than is natural. 

 

[petra]

@Maureen  I can see me so clearly in the Quadrant LOVE Position!

 

[MEntity] I AM LOVE - I can help you get started

 

[MEntity] You may not like that you are in a Love Position, but you know how to bring out the best potential in yourself and others, and when you dismiss this impact, you can squash potential, both in yourself and others.

 

[MEntity] Love can tend to be drawn into positions of intimacy with complete strangers that often requires awkward and uncomfortable establishing of boundaries, and often expected to be the source of inspiration in others' lives.

 

[MEntity] LOVE - Inspiration - tends to wish to reflect, represent, and encourage the most possibility and potential in another person; tends to like to initiate; tends to start many things, but needs the details to be carried out by other Positions; tends to feel obligated to care when others will not; tends to allow room for difficult people, even to their own detriment;

 

My secondary are Knowledge and Compassion, and I can see how I move between the two equally.

 

My closest people are in Knowledge and in Power, I fit in just fine.

 

I think I grew naturally early in my life into this position, exalted Roles are tougher to imprint I remember Michael once said.

 

[Maureen]

48 minutes ago, petra said:

@Maureen  I can see me so clearly in the Quadrant LOVE Position!

 

[MEntity] I AM LOVE - I can help you get started

 

[MEntity] You may not like that you are in a Love Position, but you know how to bring out the best potential in yourself and others, and when you dismiss this impact, you can squash potential, both in yourself and others.

 

[MEntity] Love can tend to be drawn into positions of intimacy with complete strangers that often requires awkward and uncomfortable establishing of boundaries, and often expected to be the source of inspiration in others' lives.

 

[MEntity] LOVE - Inspiration - tends to wish to reflect, represent, and encourage the most possibility and potential in another person; tends to like to initiate; tends to start many things, but needs the details to be carried out by other Positions; tends to feel obligated to care when others will not; tends to allow room for difficult people, even to their own detriment;

 

My secondary are Knowledge and Compassion, and I can see how I move between the two equally.

 

My closest people are in Knowledge and in Power, I fit in just fine.

 

I think I grew naturally early in my life into this position, exalted Roles are tougher to imprint I remember Michael once said.

 

 

@petra, Thank you!!