Oh sigh :/ I guess I've lost a friend to conspiracy theories.

[Miizle]

Several months ago I lost contact with someone i considered a good friend. She simply did not respond to messages (all my messenger messages show unread), texts, voicemail. I don't know what's going on. Now both her husband and she have changed their FB names to "Firstname Firstname", I can only guess they are paranoid about having their real full names there. She has never posted photos or anything. Now she's posted a whole bunch of quotes about praying for people to be brave enough to speak the truth etc, and this..... Oh sigh. I didn't read all of it (didn't need to, didn't want to) but, it's just so incredibly sad coming from someone i thought was a smart person who i have a lot in common with. I haven't done anything, and i can't think of a reason why she would not want to keep in touch, except her just eradicating friendship with everyone who has ever spoken against conspiracy theories.
I miss her.
 

What is considered symptoms of the virus, i.e. viral disease / flu, is actually a cell cleaning process where the cell washes the toxins accumulated when the critical pollution border arrives. These toxins can't somehow infect another person with a ′′ virus ′′ unless they are injected into another person's bloodstream. Flu seasons, or seasonal cleaning processes, are related to natural rhythms, where against winter and against spring, the body cleans itself from accumulated toxins to enter either the growing season (spring) or the rest period (winter). Spanish flu (about 100 years ago) was actually a vaccine poisoning. Lots of tests were done to find out if this flu is contagious. I was even out to the point that the sick people with flu were spit in cups with the claim that it was needed to be tested. Actually, ′′ saliva samples ′′ were mixed with juice that was sold to non-lost in the canteen. The result was zero infected.

It is claimed that the flu is not subject to medical treatment. The claim is true, because medics are poison and their intake, i.e. inserting additional toxins into the body, worsens the symptoms of flu as the process of eliminating toxins. Flu when the process of eliminating toxins can't be contagious with any trick. In most cases, so-called flu waves are related to environmental poisons, whether they have been generated consciously or due to pollution in some manufacturing process. Anti flu vaccines (like the rest of the vaccines) are built on toxins. When a person gets a vaccine, the body launches when they have enough resources, an immediate cleaning process called side effects. If a person is in the pre-illness stage, meaning his body is full of toxins until saturation and his body is preparing to get rid of them, if he gets a vaccine at that time, the body may not be able to eliminate toxins in the vaccine and he dies if his blood is extinct at the right time will not be swapped. If a person's body is not able to eliminate toxins due to lack of resources (nutrients, the body overall energy level), they pack toxins in case they don't exceed critical limit, to deposit in fat cells to get rid of them during a cheaper period - a person gets sick in medical language and is often considered a viral infection. If a person gets a vaccine during a time when their body has not been able to cleanse from the previous vaccine, their symptoms are tougher than during the previous ′′ illness medicine claims that it is a mutated virus, which is significantly more deadly than the previous strain. The shorter the time between two or more vaccines, the higher the risk of death of the vaccinated person. It comes from here that only victims get constantly new vaccines will get ′′ infected ′′ with the following, more and more deadly strains. They are not dying because of an infection but because of the poison contained in the vaccines.

Will you take a drink? Because iodine also takes part in thyroid activity, the thyroid can produce more hormones, i.e. pressers / command legs, thanks to the iodine deficiency compensation. Thanks to this, the body can cleanse those scum balls that it couldn't do before due to lack of iodine. Because Japanese eat many algae containing iodine, their bodies are more toxic and therefore live longer.

Ogavalk is not the cause but the consequence. Protein is a compound of amino acids. Cells to cleanse themselves (e.g. from vaccine poisons) create special amino acids that tie the toxins accumulated in cells, so that they can be removed from themselves (into non-cell liquid). When leaving the cell, amino acids connected to poison join other amino acids e.g. into spik protein, i.e. protein containing toxins, which can then be removed from the body - this is foggy body cleansing technology. AC2 receptors give the right direction for the movement of spike protein from the body (spike protein is stretched ′′ hand to hand ′′ i.e. from one receptor to another until it reaches the trash, mainly kidneys, liver, slime, etc.) Spike protein doesn't have a contagious character, but because of their poisons, they create an extra burden on the healthy (i.e. unvaccinated) human cleaning system. In addition, a person who received the vaccine has spent their resources backup, they are energetically empty and affects the surrounding people as an energy vampire. Auras seeers claim that people receiving the vaccine will sometimes shrink the steam field to non-existent. In addition, no vaccine has ever created immunity - immunity is the neutralization system of non-necessary substances (i. e poisons) and parasites.

An inflammation is a situation where the body tries to neutralize toxins and parasites with a fever function. The more toxins, the more powerful the heat reaction. If there are toxins beyond critical limit, then a person dies. The reason is not the fever / burning process but too many toxins at once that have been injected into the human body using vaccines. In case of slow accumulation of toxins, the body can phase them out so that they don't gather above critical limits - there is no possibility of cleaning the stage, critical limit is easy to cross - which is also done.

The so-called strong immune system is first of all a toxic-free body, which has a large buffer zone up to the saturation limit of toxins. In order not to accumulate toxins, it is necessary to consciously dispose of them from time to time using different body cleansing methods - e.g. regular use of MMS, which results in no need for the body to use the output process of toxins, i.e. disease.

Hot treated food is toxic to the human body, therefore the highest level of health is possible for people with mostly raw food on their menu.

Edited September 8, 2021 by Miizle

[Troy]

This is so terrifyingly far from the reality of existence that I don't think your friend stopped talking to you... I think she is literally in another dimension. This is FUCKED up.

[Christian]

Holy wall of text, Batman.

 

Those are...certainly words.

 

Sorry about your friend.

[Evelin]

@Miizle, I’m so sorry to hear this  @Troy, that’s a good way of expressing it.

I also wonder what the Estonian word for ”spike protein” (ogavalk) is doing in that text!?

 

I recently learned a member of my extended family is not vaccinated, no medical reason, personal ones; and I learned this the same day our news said if slightly more people were vacced, we could lift the restrictions. Seems like a simple equation to me, but…

 

On the plus side, I know of two people who are into our foreign-financed ”christian conservatives” and were antimaskers and possibly antivaxxers as well, who had the coronavirus and are now vaccinated. So I’m not losing all hope yet, but it’s bleak sometimes.

[Jeroen]

I am saddened for the loss of your friend, @Miizle. It is difficult losing someone you have known and cared for in your life to a conspiracy theory. Perhaps she will find her way back to the truth one day. Here is a hug for you.

[Katja]

I am sorry, this is really bullshit. I have unfriended some people for this reason in fb, but not close friends. 

[Janet]

Sometimes even close friends fall away and you don't know what influences they've been under while out of touch. My daughter's very best friend since high school -- and a task companion -- suddenly announced she didn't want to have contact anymore, and no one has ever been able to get a clear answer as to why. She has never unfriended via FB so we know the types of things she posts, and quite obviously she has fallen for the same conspiracy theory junk as your former friend, so we can make guesses as to why she pulled away. It was and is still very hurtful to my daughter, so I can sympathize with you. 

 

6 hours ago, Miizle said:

Now both her husband and she have changed their FB names to "Firstname Firstname", I can only guess they are paranoid about having their real full names there.

This is quite hilarious really. Facebook knows their full names and won't hesitate to "accidentally" let their personal information fall into the hands of the next group that pays Facebook enough to overlook a "breach." (Maybe it's only another conspiracy theory, but I'm quite convinced that a number of Facebook's security breaches were accidental on purpose. lol) 

[LuckyFox]

1 hour ago, Janet said:

 

This is quite hilarious really. Facebook knows their full names and won't hesitate to "accidentally" let their personal information fall into the hands of the next group that pays Facebook enough to overlook a "breach." (Maybe it's only another conspiracy theory, but I'm quite convinced that a number of Facebook's security breaches were accidental on purpose. lol) 

I work in IT and keep track of technology news. A lot of mainstream technological sites have had news of Facebook getting lawsuits from dozens and dozens of groups because they sell personal information to companies to create personalized advertisements for their users. It is less in the sense of personally reading all your messages as the way conspiracy theorists think of it though, but more that a program in Facebook analyzes the specific words you use, counts it, and creates advertisements in reaction to this. Due to the breach of privacy, Facebook is in the process of getting sued these days, apparently. 

 

This video might be relevant.

 

 

Edited September 8, 2021 by LuckyFox
Added informative video as the scientist guy on this site

[LuckyFox]

In addition to this, I'd say it sounds similar to the /r/insanepeoplefacebook, /r/insaneparents, and /r/Qanoncasualities on Reddit if you want to see similar posts. Beyond the anti-spirituality atheists who say "All Christians are insane. Jesus isn't real!" or "Chakras and yoga does not work at all!!!", I'd say usually despite disagreeing on many points, I agree with most of what they describe as "insane". You can also see videos of people like this on /r/PublicFreakout on Reddit, as well, if you prefer videos over text and pictures. 

[Philip Wittmeyer]

In rural Missouri, my Baby Soul sister has taken a detour through contrarian conspiratorial cultish Crazytown due to influence from the brother of my sister-in-law. For my own good, of course, she attempted to inform and enlighten me, as they are often wont to do, about what is really happening in the world (elites eat babies, etc.), but I was able to navigate gracefully and graciously through the maze and haze of nuttiness, ending with "One of us is on the wrong side of history; I am going to wait and see how this plays out in the long run." Seems to have worked; she still speaks to me. Fortunately, my Young Soul brother, who lives on the family farm in rural Missouri and voted for Trump, at least has not fallen under the spell of all of the looney tunes that are being played in the zeitgeist. In my family we are not inclined to break off contact with each other, even if/when one of us has gone off the rails.

[Crystal]

@Miizle, I’m so sorry. It’s tough to see a friend lose their grip on reality like this, and whoa, has she ever. It super stinks but there is nothing you can realistically do about it. She sounds like she’s had some kind of breakdown, and I hope she will accept help if it is offered.

[JeanneS]

@Miizle I am so very sorry to hear about your friend.  Sending love to you.

 

This has also happened to a good friend of mine.  This person has been a friend for over 30 years and is like a sister to me.  Up until now, she's been clear thinking and "normal" (for lack of a better term).  This entire pandemic has turned her into a conspiracy theory adherent.  I suspect that a lot of what's going on is that she absolutely, positively hates being told what to do.  So having to mask up, social distance, get a vaccine was just too much for her.  She has rebelled.  She now spouts conspiracy theory stuff and won't listen to reason.  She insists that she is special and can't tolerate the vaccine or masks--and that they are unhealthy--and she thinks social distancing is unnecessary.  I have pulled away from her--and refuse to see her in person (which makes her angry).

 

But, I am heartbroken.  Her lack of thought of the community vs. her own desires is really challenging for me to witness.  I don't know how this will play out (or even if she will survive the pandemic).  But I do know that my opinion of her and feelings about our friendship has been badly damaged.  

[Miizle]

I forgot to clarify she did not write this text, just shared it. With some and symbols.
@Evelin she is originally Estonian, and this text was also shared from someone with an Estonian name.

 

Thank you all for your care. It's pretty nutty. I read the whole text now and, yeah. If this is what they truly believe in (her husband had liked the post), i do not think there will be any way of getting her back to reality. This is completely derailed. Their daughter is the same age as mine and they have always had a special bond even if we haven't managed to see each other so often in the past few years since we moved. There's also been a special bond between her and my daughter, since she was a baby there was a palpable connection, something that felt way beyond this lifetime. This is very sad.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Miizle

[Becca the Student]

I'm so sorry you have to deal with the grief and shock of this. I couldn't even get through the second sentence of that text. Wow. It's terrifying the how off the rails our loved ones can get -- when it happens to people we know, it's scarier, I think. Sending you and your daughter love.

[Evelin]

11 hours ago, Miizle said:

I forgot to clarify she did not write this text, just shared it. With some and symbols.
@Evelin she is originally Estonian, and this text was also shared from someone with an Estonian name.

 

Oh, I didn't think your friend wrote it, sorry if I implied that, was just wondering about the source. Seems like a glued-together-half-machine-translated tirade of confusion.
Sadly, I also know many otherwise very bright, nice and lovely people who have gotten a bit extreme lately. On both sides of the aisle -- I don't approve of sarcastic ridicule of those who believe dubious things, either, it doesn't help anything.

 

The two anti-somethings in my circle are also people whose child is a close friend of my child, so it's a tough call where to draw the line, and lately there are talks of more children getting the serious version of coronavirus... difficult times for all of us!
@Miizle, I do hope at least your child gets a friend back, if not you, but I also hope you will get yours back eventually... sad hugs if you need them.

 

[Crystal]

Sending love and good thoughts to everyone who has a friend or family member going down the conspiracy rabbit hole. I honestly think that the election of Fuckface in 2016 traumatized people (even outside the US) and then the pandemic in 2020 was a double helping of trauma. So, a figurative double scoop of trauma with sprinkles. I think a LOT of people just buckled.

 

I think all of Sentience needs a great big hug right now. 

[AnnaD]

@Miizle I am sorry that your friend has been sucked into some irrational crazy thinking. I am not going to read their ramblings. Are they a part of the anti vaxx Vegan community? Unfortunately there are some people there who are being harmed by Disinformation Dozen thinking.

[Miizle]

@AnnaD Yes, they are anti-vax vegans.