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I do enjoy when we can get rapid fire responses like this.  

It helps to open up lines of questioning that may not be considered before. 

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1 hour ago, Christian said:

I do enjoy when we can get rapid fire responses like this.  

It helps to open up lines of questioning that may not be considered before. 


Yes! Troy seems to work faster in this format. 

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The revelation about Energy Ring 5 was a nice surprise. It is true that till now (at least me) when we were getting profiles, we assumed it "must" be from ER 1 or 2.

 

Also, the theme of rejection regarding Covid resonated deeply. Michaels have been hammering the topic of rejection (of truth) this year in many instances in the monthly Energy Reports.

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13 hours ago, Maureen said:

I would like to know the Casting/Role, Soul Age/Level and Cadre/Entity, and Energy Ring, and anything else that is significant in the Overleaves of Mitch McConnell, and what Karma he has with the current cast of characters in power if any.

 

MEntity:  6th Level Young Scholar-Cast Server from Cadre 11, Entity 2 of Energy Ring 5.

 

To delineate the range of Karma for this fragment would require more dedicated time. This fragment is heavily burdened by Karma that has been avoided and compounded over the course of the current lifetime. The Karma could be said to be themed in: MANIPULATION

 

Servers are of the most adept at manipulation.

 

A Server who is overburdened can be of the most paralyzed or of the most dangerous in a society.

 

By "most dangerous" we mean that Servers can find ways for others to carry the weight of their burdens to an extent that paralyzes others.

I think that with the Inspirational Roles there is a bias in the sense that Priests usually are the ones that can get a lot of flak and Servers are seen as the more agreeable and nice but it seems to me we have not explored the different facets of the negative pole of the Server Role. 

 

By the way, in connection to this I just thought I'd mention that in my opinion in a number of mainstream shows and movies the main villain or antagonist usually looks more like the stereotype or caricature of a very negative pole King or Priest. You may also get the evil inventor or scientist trope (aka the bad Artisans and Scholars), etc. but, damn, Server-like fictional antagonists seem more rare in comparison to others. I would love to see more nuanced and varied depction of negative Server qualities a little bit more often. Maybe screenwriters should consult Michael.😀

 

Here's a funny article from The Onion I remember reading some time ago on McConnell.😄

Mitch McConnell Wonders If He Could’ve Done More To Harm People In Private Sector

 

Michael's answer to my question aligns with my thoughts and intuition.

 

I think that one of the reasons for the worsening of the variants and their higher transmissibility is because many, many people just continue doubling down on the Rejection theme which fueled this whole thing in the first place. First there was a rejection of many public health measures like masks, social distancing, etc. and there still is but now we also have the added rejection of vaccines on top of this. Then there is greed and the rejection of pharmaceutical companies when it comes to patent waivers even while the pandemic rages on. I'm imagining in my head a really toxic sandwich as a visual metaphor for all of this. With the different ingredients being the various types of rejection, stacked on top of each other.

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5 hours ago, Marigold said:

I think that with the Inspirational Roles there is a bias in the sense that Priests usually are the ones that can get a lot of flak and Servers are seen as the more agreeable and nice but it seems to me we have not explored the different facets of the negative pole of the Server Role. 

 

Maybe Servers aren't discussed as much as Priests here, but several people I know (including @TexB) have had manipulative, controlling, or downright abusive Server mothers or relatives, particularly the Server/Warrior combo. So the manipulative aspect of Servers wasn't a surprise to me. Now that I think about it, my Server-cast King grandmother can do this too. 

 

5 hours ago, Marigold said:

By the way, in connection to this I just thought I'd mention that in my opinion in a number of mainstream shows and movies the main villain or antagonist usually looks more like the stereotype or caricature of a very negative pole King or Priest. You may also get the evil inventor or scientist trope (aka the bad Artisans and Scholars), etc. but, damn, Server-like fictional antagonists seem more rare in comparison to others. I would love to see more nuanced and varied depction of negative Server qualities a little bit more often. Maybe screenwriters should consult Michael.😀

 

I brought up this video of the villain Mother Gothel from the Disney movie Tangled to @Luciana Flora once as an example of the gaslighting that her mother does to her. Your comment made me realize she's probably a great example of a negative pole Server. Check out the video here breaking down the ways in which Mother Gothel manipulates Rapunzel.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Marigold said:

You may also get the evil inventor or scientist trope (aka the bad Artisans and Scholars), etc. but, damn, Server-like fictional antagonists seem more rare in comparison to others. I would love to see more nuanced and varied depction of negative Server qualities a little bit more often. Maybe screenwriters should consult Michael.😀

 

Misery instantly came to mind. And the stepmother in Tangled.

 

 

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22 hours ago, Maureen said:

Servers are of the most adept at manipulation.

 

A Server who is overburdened can be of the most paralyzed or of the most dangerous in a society.

 

By "most dangerous" we mean that Servers can find ways for others to carry the weight of their burdens to an extent that paralyzes others.

 

When I read this in the session I could see all the nurses in those thrillers who kill their patients out of misguided compassion. Nurse Ratchet and the Mind Fuck she practices in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest also comes to mind. 

 

 

 

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Maybe Servers aren't discussed as much as Priests here, but several people I know (including @TexB) have had manipulative, controlling, or downright abusive Server mothers or relatives, particularly the Server/Warrior combo. So the manipulative aspect of Servers wasn't a surprise to me. Now that I think about it, my Server-cast King grandmother can do this too. 

 

Yes @DianeHB, the most difficult, controlling relationship I had was with an Old 6 Warrior-cast Server who I was working through "mother issues" with. My mother was a Mature 4 Sage-cast Warrior Shadow Fragment of mine.  

 

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On 9/26/2021 at 5:12 PM, Maureen said:

Uma:  Zahra’s question is about anti-vaxxers: I doubt anything would change their stance when defenses are this high. And I believe most people are only vaccine-hesitant instead of hardcore anti-vaxxers. How could we best deal with these two different groups of people and where do we draw the line?

 

MEntity:  When we said that the most threatening element to humanity at the moment is the dismantling of truth, this is one of the consequences of that dismantling. It would require an awakening on a scale that now requires trauma for that awakening. When an individual or a population awakens to Truth, it happens through willingness that leads one to the Truth or through trauma that sharpens the focus away from denial and delusion.

 

Imagine the difference between one who is willing to consider the consequences of texting while driving vs one who denies the validity of these consequences. One does not have to fly through a windshield to consider the truth of the consequences of texting and driving, but the person who flies through the windshield now knows that same truth.

 

Those who are delusional or in denial and refuse to participate in practices that consider the well-being of the masses can likely only learn from trauma now.

 

Keep in mind that most who reject the truth of healthful participation in a society are likely Young or Baby. The rebellious teens and the tumbling toddlers are either going to learn from those who are willing to teach, or learn through painful consequences.

 

With delusional leaders who have large platforms as means to teach while dismantling the truth, then the teens and toddlers, so to speak, have no other real means of learning but through eventual trauma.

 

The average Mature and Old Soul can continue to keep the invitation open to learn, and/or focus on ensuring the well-being of those who are already learning.

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MEntity:  The more a population is a source of similar fuel for a virus, the more likely it is to be contagious and the more contagious the virus, the more fuel has accumulated for the virus to consume in that population. For example, SARS-CoV-2 is fueled by REJECTION. This is rejection of life, rejection of joy, rejection of others, rejection of self, etc. This does not mean that one who is positive for COVID-19 is guilty of having done something wrong and is being punished. Viruses do not work this way. SARS-CoV-2 is fueled by what grew to be a mass collective level of Rejection from many directions for many reasons. As it has given rise to COVID-19, the reality of the extremes of Rejection among the masses has become front and center of most conversations and awareness.

 

We know this level of consideration for how viruses work may not have technology developed to track correlating collective moods or psychological patterns, so we suggest taking this as a matter for consideration, not as a way to avoid or treat an illness.

 

It is also important to note that a pandemic puts everyone at risk for hosting the virus, even if they are not great sources fuel for the virus. In other words, those who catch the common cold are likely doing so for very personal reasons vs a person who carries SARS-CoV-2 who is merely in the path of the momentum.

 

 

 

I have been thinking about this for the last 24hrs. 

The connections between to these two are so obvious. 

 

The rejection has been in the hardest hit area for a very long time.  Currently the two states with the highest 7day avg case per 100k  people are WV and Alaska.  WV was literally founded on rejection. They rejected being involved in the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy because Richmond said the were going to war.  

CT and CA are not over 100 cases per 100K.  I don't know about CT.  CA took everything seriously and has been doing hard lockdowns etc. 

There also has been the obvious huge rejection in GOP state of the loss of the sentient orange.  But that was hardly surprising.   

A few years ago, I was at Grant's Farm in Saint Louis, MO with the family.  It was busy summer weekend. There was this typical mid-western white dude (TMWD) a head of us.  He was talking to random tourist he was with.  TMWD said that he was glad foreign friend got a chance to visit here and see The Real America tm.   I had to bite my tongue. 

 

It wasn't until reading this that it occurred to me that incredibly dismissive statement was a rejection of the US as a whole.  This is a common sentiment in this part of the country.  Here we are the real people of America.  Here is real not those fake people on the coasts. 

 

This is not to say that the sentiment does not go both way.  I have way to often heard this part of the country are Fly Over country.  Rejecting it as uninteresting, not worth the time, and a drain on the rest of the country. 

To be fair the former is far more predominate than the latter.  Just pointing out that both exist.  

Now, however, the rejection has gotten to the point that if we still had standing militias and no standing army, I fear there would be another Civil war. In a sense, we are. Those that are not rejecting the science are  "winning" if it could be called that.  Perhaps suffering less would be better. Though even that seem inadequate. 

It seems though those that will only learn through trauma will doom many who learned with out it.   Just as texting while driving doesn't mean the texter ends up in the hospital. 


I stated before in 2016 with the sentient orange's victory that we didn't listen.  Many rejected what those now suffering the most were saying as being backward racist yokels, which to be fair, they certainly didn't help dissuade anyone of that thought. We didn't listen to their legitimate concerns about dying towns and rampant poverty because of the perceived and actual racism and ignorance. 

They then, like petulant children, ramped their rejection to 11 and openly rejected the very idea of the US, the Constitution, rule of law, Kindness, compassion, and the fact that their politics were not supported by a majority.  They were right and they knew it and the rest of you can fuck off. 

 

And now they are suffering worse and dragging us down with them. 

Given that my daughter is covid positive, I have been running a fever and all the other symptoms and my son and wife show symptoms.  I want to and have say Fuck them.  But that is also a rejection.  

The anger I feel at this is because THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER, DAMNIT.  Then Michael says  "

With delusional leaders who have large platforms as means to teach while dismantling the truth, then the teens and toddlers, so to speak, have no other real means of learning but through eventual trauma."  and I am reminded of how much shit I had to unlearn from my parents.  The info Glut and how humans normally gravitate that which they agree with not that which is correct or truthful. 

I can be angry with the children for knowing and not heeding. I can also remind myself that I have consciously rejected having perusing having any type of platform beyond what I consider safe, because of the glut and the hate that people feel is their obligation to spew. 

I guess my thought in this is just to examine rejections on a micro and macro scale.  I don't think that all rejections are equal by a long shot. I do feel that rejecting someone's humanity or right to exist is far worse than me rejecting having more of a presence online for my own sanity. One can still teach without a large platform. One cannot overcome bigotry without re-examining themselves to their core, and many are unwilling to do that. 

 

Anyway,  just some thoughts. 

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On 9/26/2021 at 6:12 PM, Maureen said:

Uma:  First question is from Cong: Hi Michael! You indicated previously that Infinite Soul host candidates-- Pat McCabe (Woman Stands Shining), Kumi Naidoo, and Emma Gonzalez--are all from Cadre 11 or Cadre 12. So is poet Amanda Gorman. Are they from the Cadre 11/12 of our Energy Ring or previous Energy Ring? To be frank, it is very difficult to imagine Kumi being the Entity Mate of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. If indeed this is the case, what makes them evolve so much faster than their typical Entity Mates? I will guess the Infinite Soul hosts also have very high Grand Cycle counts, which makes it even more interesting if they are in one of the later Cadres in our Energy Ring.

 

MEntity:  Your assessment is valid in that the latter two fragments are not from the same Energy Ring as the first 4 fragments.

 

When requesting Overleaves of those well outside of what you might consider your own sense of energy, it can be helpful to request the Energy Ring Number for validation. Energy Rings have distinct energy signatures that the sensitive and aware may recognize as different. The latter fragments in question are from Energy Ring 5.

 

 I think it's highly likely that Robert Mueller, 7th Level Young Warrior-Cast Scholar from Cadre 11, Entity 3, is also from Energy Ring 5, just as Donald Trump is. From an ASK MICHAEL on January 7, 2018

 

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Uma:  Hello Michael, I would like to know the Soul Age/Level, Role/Casting, Cadre/Entity for Robert Mueller, the Special Counsel investigating trump, and if there are any karmic or other connections between them. If possible I would like the probabilities for impeachment/resignation and also for criminal conviction/prison for trump and his kids. I would appreciate knowing anything that would make this drama more understandable or easy to navigate. Thank you.

 

MEntity:  The fragment in question is a 7th Level Young Warrior-Cast Scholar from Cadre 11, Entity 3. There is Major Karma between these fragments involving Betrayal and Abandonment. When fragments address Karma during the 7th Level, especially as part of the transition into Mature Soul, there is an effort to shift away from simple reversal of scenario. For example, rather than killing someone who killed you, he saves your life in another life. It does not always go so well for the Young Souls who are new at the more creative Karmic Balancing.

 

The "plan" was for the Scholar to show "sincere and authentic loyalty" to the King as a means to balance Betrayal and Abandonment in another life. This is showing up a bit differently than expected as the Scholar is, indeed, showing sincere and authentic loyalty to the King. It just so happens that this sincere and authentic loyalty are naturally devoted to upholding the King's authenticity and accountability.

 

This relationship and Karmic balance would not have looked like this had the King not succumbed to his Imprinting.

 

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On 9/27/2021 at 8:05 AM, Marigold said:

I think that with the Inspirational Roles there is a bias in the sense that Priests usually are the ones that can get a lot of flak and Servers are seen as the more agreeable and nice but it seems to me we have not explored the different facets of the negative pole of the Server Role. 

 

By the way, in connection to this I just thought I'd mention that in my opinion in a number of mainstream shows and movies the main villain or antagonist usually looks more like the stereotype or caricature of a very negative pole King or Priest. You may also get the evil inventor or scientist trope (aka the bad Artisans and Scholars), etc. but, damn, Server-like fictional antagonists seem more rare in comparison to others. I would love to see more nuanced and varied depction of negative Server qualities a little bit more often. Maybe screenwriters should consult Michael.<img src=">

 

Here's a funny article from The Onion I remember reading some time ago on McConnell.<img src=">

Mitch McConnell Wonders If He Could’ve Done More To Harm People In Private Sector

 

Michael's answer to my question aligns with my thoughts and intuition.

 

I think that one of the reasons for the worsening of the variants and their higher transmissibility is because many, many people just continue doubling down on the Rejection theme which fueled this whole thing in the first place. First there was a rejection of many public health measures like masks, social distancing, etc. and there still is but now we also have the added rejection of vaccines on top of this. Then there is greed and the rejection of pharmaceutical companies when it comes to patent waivers even while the pandemic rages on. I'm imagining in my head a really toxic sandwich as a visual metaphor for all of this. With the different ingredients being the various types of rejection, stacked on top of each other.

 

I haven't read through all the responses yet so maybe someone already chimed in but, I think the abusive server tropes in fiction would be evil mothers, stepmothers, nurses/caretakers, doctors, butlers, secretaries. Movies that come to mind are One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest, Misery, The Human Centipede, Psycho. I'm sure there are more. Any characters exhibiting martyrdom and using guilt trips to extremes to manipulate their kids. What was that recent movie about the mom making her kid sick on purpose so that she could nurse the kid and get attention? That trope is common I think. Oh, superheroes who turn out to be kinda evil might fall into this category too I think. The Boys, Invincible, and Watchmen come to mind. 

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I haven't read through all the responses yet so maybe someone already chimed in but, I think the abusive server tropes in fiction would be evil mothers, stepmothers, nurses/caretakers, doctors, butlers, secretaries. Movies that come to mind are One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest, Misery, The Human Centipede, Psycho. I'm sure there are more. Any characters exhibiting martyrdom and using guilt trips to extremes to manipulate their kids. What was that recent movie about the mom making her kid sick on purpose so that she could nurse the kid and get attention? That trope is common I think. Oh, superheroes who turn out to be kinda evil might fall into this category too I think. The Boys, Invincible, and Watchmen come to mind. 

 

Yes!!! Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSBP) is a mental health problem in which a caregiver makes up or causes an illness or injury in a person under his or her care, such as a child, an elderly adult, or a person who has a disability. Because vulnerable people are the victims, MSBP is a form of child abuse or elder abuse.

 

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On 9/26/2021 at 5:12 PM, Maureen said:

The momentum is quite strong but is still able to be altered, but we do not see most humans concerned with making the changes that would alter their future for the better in this way.

 

 

Big, BIG Oof, right there 😭

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On 9/27/2021 at 11:12 AM, Maureen said:

Those who are delusional or in denial and refuse to participate in practices that consider the well-being of the masses can likely only learn from trauma now.

 

Keep in mind that most who reject the truth of healthful participation in a society are likely Young or Baby. The rebellious teens and the tumbling toddlers are either going to learn from those who are willing to teach, or learn through painful consequences.

 

This would be fine if it effected only those who reject established medical science/science, but it never does. Although this is the only way some people learn. I have been this level of fool. So I have no vengeance for those who make dumb choices, but I do not try and save these folk from themselves, as saving people from themselves disables people from learning a lesson, and I am not going to do that, that just prolongs the situation for the rest of us, which is already a tragic, preventable tale on so many fronts. 

 

Covid-19 being a virus that represents rejection makes sense. I hope @Christian you and your family have recovered and are able to continue without the Long-Covid-19 repercussions of having had this virus. 

 

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On 9/27/2021 at 11:12 AM, Maureen said:

The effects of climate change over the next 10 to 25 years looks to be related mostly to extremes of weather that literally changes the climate of regions that have known stability for hundreds or thousands of years. More flooding, more fires, more droughts, more disruption of food supply chains, more tsunamis, more tornadoes, hurricanes, more blizzards, and tropical storms that are relentless. In addition to all of this, the effects on stable currents affects some geographical plates to shift dramatically with earthquakes. And throughout this is likely more pandemics.

 

It is not that all of this will happen within that window of time but that this window of time would be the bulk of events that would then require the next 10 to 50 years to recover and adapt.

 

The momentum is quite strong but is still able to be altered, but we do not see most humans concerned with making the changes that would alter their future for the better in this way.

depresses me a lot. There is so much we can do such as living Vegan as much as you can to minimize harm and suffering to living things on our planet earth. I attended the remote Louie Schwartzberg driven Fantastic Fungi Global Summit https://fungiglobalsummit.com/ that posits mushrooms as environmental pollution remediators, as soil carbon sequestration heroes due to the mycelial network, as food, fuel, fibre. If you haven't seen Netflix Fantastic Fungi yet, give it a go - it has given me confidence that there are solutions that we can use https://www.netflix.com/nz/title/81183477

 

There is so much information in this session, I imagine this session will be referenced many times from now. Thank you TLE.

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earth. I attended the remote Louie Schwartzberg driven Fantastic Fungi Global Summit https://fungiglobalsummit.com/ that posits mushrooms as environmental pollution remediators, as soil carbon sequestration heroes due to the mycelial network, as food, fuel, fibre. If you haven't seen Netflix Fantastic Fungi yet, give it a go - it has given me confidence that there are solutions that we can use https://www.netflix.com/nz/title/81183477

Glad you did. I wanted to attend the fungiglobalsummit as well, but couldn’t fit it into my workschedule. I love Louie Schwartzberg’s work and especially his latest: Fantastic Fungi. Like you said, I also recommend it to anyone who hasn’t seen it yet. It is beautiful.

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