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June 17, 2007
Troy Tolley, Channel

MICHAEL SPEAKS – E-mail Alternative Version

 

In the beginning of June, we had a humpback mother whale and her baby swim up the Carquinez Strait (which I can see from my condo's balcony), into the Sacramento river, all the way to the Port of Sacramento. They were the only wild whales that received antibiotics for very bad injuries they received from possibly a keel of a sailboat. They got named Delta & Dawn. Are the Michaels able to find out how well they are doing now, if they are safe, well, and healthy?

 

MEntity: It appears to us that the whales in question are doing well. Although there was disorientation involved to some degree, the main intent of the whales was for fun exploration of an area that has a reputation among whales as being mysterious, fantastic, and full of kind humans with the best interest of whales at heart. The wounds on the whale were sensed to be fairly fatal in the long run, due to infection, so while the “trip” was to be for fun and exploration, there was also the hope that the kind humans could help. Indeed, they did with the antibiotics, allowing for the whales to have validation of this potential among humans and the reports are spreading. We would not be surprised to find more whales exploring this same passage within the next 20 years. It is always assumed these creatures are lost, but it is often not the case. However, the same is assumed of your species while out on the open ocean. Why would you be there? It’s not your natural habitat or home. You must be lost. Often the interaction between whales and boats is from the same concern that humans have for whales in strange territories: they are hoping to redirect you home.

 

Does brushing your skin with a boar bristle brush, brushing in the direction of your heart, really help the lymphatic system?

 

MEntity: While it is not necessary to use the hairs of a dead animal as bristles, any medium-strength bristle brush (synthetic or otherwise) used to brush the skin is beneficial for the lymphatic system, the skin, and the blood. It is not necessary for the direction to be toward the heart, but this can add to the effect in a mental way that is valid as a ritual.

 

I would like to know Michael's opinion on my problem of determining how far one needs to go to know that they are walking the walk rather than talking the talk. I want to live up to my beliefs, but it seems impossible to do 100%. How much is enough not to be a hypocrite?

 

MEntity: “Beliefs” is a word that represents all the things that you presume to be possible or true, and seek to implement within your Being as foundations, but you do not have the experience or comprehension to turn those beliefs into knowledge. When you KNOW something, you implement it 100%. When you BELIEVE something, you may or may not implement the entirety of the belief. Older Souls in particular have a difficult time implementing beliefs until there is a sense of solid knowledge. Until you gain knowledge, all you have is a theory, not a truth. The lack of ability to implement a belief is not a matter of hypocrisy, but a matter of integrity that allows room for further investigation, experience, and eventually knowledge. Hypocrisy is only valid as a reference when one imposes beliefs upon others without doing the work of turning those personal beliefs into knowledge. It is called hypocrisy because there is always a discrepancy between the imposition and the behavior of the hypocrite, with the hypocrite using imposition as his or her way of avoiding knowledge, while enforcing false validation of his or her own beliefs.

 

What is a transcendent soul (not the transcendental soul level)? My understanding is it is the same as what is called in India a Bodhisattva.

 

MEntity: A Transcendental Soul is an Entity that takes on the task of incarnating within the Physical Plane as a means to help prepare for the manifestation of the Infinite Soul. The entire Entity does not incarnate, but one fragment from the Entity incarnates with full access to the entirety of the Entity's knowledge and experience. The fragment speaks and lives on behalf of the Entity. Although it could be said that there are parallels between the description of a bodhisattva and Transcendental Souls, Transcendental Souls are not resisting or avoiding any form of “enlightenment” as a means to remain physical. Most fragments or Entities or Cadres, by the time they reach what might be called a “state of enlightenment,” realize at that point that there is no “state of enlightenment,” as there is always more to learn, experience, and explore. Enlightenment is not a conclusive state. In addition to this difference between bodhisattva and Transcendental Souls, the Transcendental Soul is only concerned with INVITING fragments into a direction that is in alignment with the Logos that is to be brought to bear, but does not have a sense of compulsion to “save humanity.” In most cases of a “bodhisattva,” it is a single fragment who has egocentrically taken on this title as a means to exploit a position with a closed group, but certainly not as a benefit to humanity. We know of no fragment extant who uses the title or nickname of “Bodhi” to be without extreme indulgence in False Personality.

 

In what time frame and location area were the most of us Michael students incarnate & interacting at the same time?

 

MEntity: Nearly all of our students (approximately 100,000 of you) were incarnated within the areas known as The Nile River in Egypt and Mesopotamia between the years of 2500 and 1700 BCE before the invasion by the Hyksos, which ruined what we often refer to as one of our “Golden Ages” with our students.

 

How best can we deal with others, when we find ourselves to be in opposition with their lifestyles and belief systems, to the point of some having physical and emotional pain over it? And, is ignoring their choices, to let them be who they are, somehow reflect that we are encouraging those choices by attending something that they are attached to? (We have been discussing certain celebrities, and the choices they make involving fundamental religions and cults.)

 

MEntity:
How one deals with one who is determined as being in opposition to one’s personal lifestyle and belief systems is a matter of choice and part of the experience of being Sentient. Soul Age plays a great part in how one deals with those who represent opposition to one's personal lifestyle and beliefs.

 

Infant Souls would not have an inclination to be concerned with differences in lifestyles and beliefs, as they are more concerned with their own survival and superstitions; in fact, any oppositions would simply be seen as mythical forces representing demons of a sort that should be avoided at all costs.

 

Baby Souls are the most violent and dominant against those in opposition to their lifestyles and beliefs, generally seeking any method possible to impose their own world over those around them.

 

Young Souls are usually not concerned with whether others share in their beliefs and lifestyle, since they presume they are inherently “right” in how they view the world, anyway. They know “the truth” and there is a smug conclusiveness about their behavior, which in itself can be dominating and imposing.

 

Mature Souls are very concerned about shared perceptions of reality and supporting those of which are beneficial to all. When there is a belief or lifestyle presented in the world that is in opposition to the benefit of all, this often creates a literal, physical pain within the Mature Soul. This pain comes from the personal history (within the life, or past lives) that knows the pain of oppression, rejection, and imposition. The process of taking stances against beliefs or lifestyles that are in opposition to the benefit of all is a process of healing one's own personal wounds, while increasing one's circle of compassion in a tangible way.

 

Old Souls within your world at this time are still manifesting a great deal of the self through Mature Soul contexts, so you will find many Old Souls still working through Mature Soul stances, not only because many Old Souls are manifesting at the Mature Soul Age, but also because this helps the process of the Mature Soul world to take root permanently. Part of the point of being an Old Soul is in use of the ability to manifest from any previous Soul Age as a means to relate to all aspects of the world. The dominant energy in the world for most at this time is the Mature Soul context, so many Old Souls will find themselves still very passionate about issues in which they would otherwise find neutrality (not indifference, but neutrality).

 

So in speaking about Old Souls, it makes sense to speak of them in terms of the Mature Soul at this time, which means that most will be contributing to any movement that is linked to the benefit of all. As long as the world is moving in the direction of Maturity, the active stance one takes on issues that inhibit compassion and freedom for all is quite important in terms of rooting Maturity in the world. No one is obligated to take a stance or to contribute to this rooting of Maturity, of course, but the contribution to this Maturity does accelerate for all, the more actively the species invests in those beliefs and lifestyles that benefit all.

 

This stance is not a confusing issue for the Mature Soul, but for the Old Soul, it can be confusing as he or she stands in support of the lifestyles and beliefs that support the benefit of all, but still feels a sense of higher perspective that trusts that all lifestyles and beliefs are valid, even if destructive, and will eventually be of benefit to all, anyway. The Mature Soul still knows how important it is to invest in the betterment of life on the Physical Plane, while many Old Souls can often forget the importance of that, since they are “leaving soon,” anyway.

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[Michael_Entity] It appears to us that the whales in question are doing well. Although there was disorientation involved to some degree, the main intent of the whales was for fun exploration of an area that has a reputation among whales as being mysterious, fantastic, and full of kind humans with the best interest of whales at heart. The wounds on the whale were sensed to be fairly fatal in the long run, due to infection, so while the “trip” was to be for fun and exploration, there was also the hope that the kind humans could help. Indeed, they did with the antibiotics, allowing for the whales to have validation of this potential among humans and the reports are spreading. We would not be surprised to find more whales exploring this same passage within the next 20 years.

 

What a wonderful whale story!

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@DanielaS Cetaceans have been on my Ask Michael question list for years, and this session (thank you @Janet for the  new random generator which took me here!) answers many. I'm happy to know that they know there are kind humans and where they live and that they help us when they think we are lost. Amazing. My heart feels lighter knowing this, for some reason. 

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On 5/28/2016 at 10:08 AM, DanielaS said:

In what time frame and location area were the most of us Michael students incarnate & interacting at the same time?

 

MEntity: Nearly all of our students (approximately 100,000 of you) were incarnated within the areas known as The Nile River in Egypt and Mesopotamia between the years of 2500 and 1700 BCE before the invasion by the Hyksos, which ruined what we often refer to as one of our “Golden Ages” with our students.

This sounds like something to be followed up on. What did the Hyksos do to 'us' and has that karma been balanced? A Michael Golden Age sounds good to moi. Maybe we can have another.

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4 hours ago, Uma said:

This sounds like something to be followed up on. What did the Hyksos do to 'us' and has that karma been balanced? A Michael Golden Age sounds good to moi. Maybe we can have another.

 

This is a bit muddled - if we're talking about Egypt only, this is the Old Kingdom and Middle Kingdom period; the Hyksos (or Shepherd Kings) being the last part of the Second Intermediate Period. If we're talking about the entire area including both Egypt and Mesopotamia, the event is more likely to be the collapse of the Bronze Age, of which the invasions of the Sea Peoples were a significant part.

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"The process of taking stances against beliefs or lifestyles that are in opposition to the benefit of all is a process of healing one's own personal wounds, while increasing one's circle of compassion in a tangible way."

Boy oh boy is the Mature Soul Age intense. I still feel resistance to speaking up and standing against those that harm.
But this is a really good reminder.

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17 hours ago, Uma said:

This sounds like something to be followed up on. What did the Hyksos do to 'us' and has that karma been balanced? A Michael Golden Age sounds good to moi. Maybe we can have another.

 

@Uma , I don't think they did do anything to 'us', more than indirectly. They simply invaded (you could say) the country.

 

The period before that happened, was not only a Golden Age for Michael Students. It's called Golden Age for the country too. The life was prosperous, vast administrative developments lead to stable rule of united Upper and Lower Egypt, that made up a really big country.

 

Decline started after the death of a female Pharaoh, Sobekneferu, who died without leaving an heir. It led to a line of unrelated and continuously weaker and short-lived Pharaohs, who didn't have the power to hold on to this big territory, making Egypt vulnerable to external forces.

 

And then Hyksos appeared. They were not necessarily a nation, as we understand it today. Rather a mix of various West-Asian tribes, the Egyptian term for them being "rulers of foreign countries". (They introduced new weapons and also the horse to Egypt btw.) The country was already weakened for c.a. 150 years before their appearance, so they themselves didn't really do so much damage, but definitely interfered with the structure of believes, introducing new deities and cults. I guess that that most impacted on Michael's access to people, because it must have affected their teaching through the channelling Priestesses.  

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3 minutes ago, Uma said:

Thanks for that explanation @PPLD. I think it's time for another Golden Age for Michael Students. I wonder how many of us are here now?

100,000 of us are Students? 

 

It is very interesting. If I understand it correctly the noticeable periods Michael refer to - Egypt, Russia, Germany - are where a big number of their students were in geographic vicinity and studying more as a group and not only individually. 

 

Although the channels with influence seem to be concentrated to the American continent, today we are not bound by geography, to be close and in communication and to study together.

 

Maybe it is already a certain type of Golden Age???

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3 minutes ago, Uma said:

Certainly, from the point of view of having the Teachings organized and available, this is a Golden Age for us. And access to reliable channeling through Troy. I think you're right @PPLD.

 

It is quite wonderful, isn't it?

Can you imagine how happy our future Personalities are about us today riding this wave ?!? ? ?

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10 hours ago, PPLD said:

Can you imagine how happy our future Personalities are about us today riding this wave ?!? 1f3c4.png 1f30a.png

 

This is one of the most delightful thoughts I have these days. Ever since TLEGG when Michael said they were talking to our future selves who were looking back at 'their previous lives', a new kind of circuit has formed in my awareness: not just looking back at previous lives, but looking forward to future ones looking back on this one--this has opened up a huge new space of awareness for me. It is something I have been exploring since then and it feels really good. When vividry happens, I find myself gathering either parts of myself, my Personality, or other lifetimes that appear. Sometimes I remember, sometimes I imagine--seeing both as gathering my 'parts' has been a great understanding.

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@Uma  last night I was reading "Seth Speaks" before bed, and I happened to be at a part where he was talking about a state where past and future selves gather to communicate and I got an incredible expanded feeling reading it, a new kind of circuit as you say.  I felt like all kinds of connections were being made inside me, quite ecstatic!

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17 hours ago, John Roth said:

 

This is a bit muddled - if we're talking about Egypt only, this is the Old Kingdom and Middle Kingdom period; the Hyksos (or Shepherd Kings) being the last part of the Second Intermediate Period. If we're talking about the entire area including both Egypt and Mesopotamia, the event is more likely to be the collapse of the Bronze Age, of which the invasions of the Sea Peoples were a significant part.

I agree, likely more related to the collapse of the Bronze Age. I recommend the book: "1177BC The Year Civilization Collapsed" by Eric Cline for more on that. However, I'd be interested in learning more about that period as far as the contribution made by Michael Students to that earlier time period, especially as it might resonate with our times. One question that comes to my mind: Do the Michael Students as a group have a common purpose for Humanities evolution or development, or is it more like each of us on our own learning curve, so to speak?      

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56 minutes ago, Timothy J Sullivan said:

I agree, likely more related to the collapse of the Bronze Age.

 

Interesting. Why do you think so @Timothy J Sullivan?

It seems likely less related to the collapse, if we assume 2500-1700 BCE is correct (which actually makes surprising sense, considering Egyptian chronology and cultural development.)

Collapse of the Bronze Age needs another 600 years to happen in Near East, including Egyptian Empire (which btw is established 200 years after the period Michael refer to).

 

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I was thinking, based on reading that book I mentioned, if I recall correctly, ‘decline’ happened due to multiples causes, and  over a period of time, that was my point. I’m more interested in the resonance, if any, to today, and the role of Michael Students as a whole in the unfolding scenarios today. 

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That's why I said it was muddled. The Hyksos and Mesopotamia don't go together in the history we know. If we're taking the Egypt-only chronology, it means we were not particularly active during the New Kingdom and the Late Period (at least in Egypt), and then picked up with the Greeks and the Library of Alexandria.

 

"1177BC The Year Civilization Collapsed" is quite good. I may have to pick it up from the library and read it again.

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17 minutes ago, John Roth said:

If we're taking the Egypt-only chronology, it means we were not particularly active during the New Kingdom and the Late Period

 

Yes, and this is what makes sense, if Egypt indeed was the core in the Michael Golden Age. The New Kingdom or the time of Egyptian Empire, is a very different Egypt. The rest is no Egypt at all (hahaha, don't even get me started).

 

Connections between Egypt and Mesopotamia were most frequent during Middle Kingdom (on the other side the Old Assyrian Kingdom) and hence interrupted by the Second Intermediate Period => Hyksos. 

 

(BTW, we know today that Shepard Kings is a mistranslation between egyptian and greek. Foreign princes/rulers was the name these peoples were given.)

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This stance is not a confusing issue for the Mature Soul, but for the Old Soul, it can be confusing as he or she stands in support of the lifestyles and beliefs that support the benefit of all, but still feels a sense of higher perspective that trusts that all lifestyles and beliefs are valid, even if destructive, and will eventually be of benefit to all, anyway. The Mature Soul still knows how important it is to invest in the betterment of life on the Physical Plane, while many Old Souls can often forget the importance of that, since they are “leaving soon,” anyway.

 

Ahhhhhh this.

This year has been SO confusing to me for this very reason.

Neutrality scares the shit out of me and I notice , thanks to fucking meditation, 

I am feeling neutral about a lot of things I previously was not at all neutral towards.

I keep realizing how very little I know about anything other than the fact that I chose a stance and will continue to learn about it. I feel less concerned about convincing others or declaring them wrong/ deluded/ selfish and more concerned with learning, choosing, being open. I feel less concerned about saving the world and more trusting that focusing on what I have “ control” over is the only way I can add anything to this world and that will still be out of my control.

This sounds very ordinary but it is really actually terrifying to lose the momentum in an area you were deeply previously intense about. Knowing that the only thing that will propel you forward is choice and no longer craving or to subconsciously avoid a terrifying outcome. 

It’s the difference between lifting weights because you know it will make you “ hot” and get you lots of attention in 3 months vs. Being completely ok with your body as it is but lifting weights because you enjoy the experience of it. The latter has no intensity to it and the commitment itself creates the energy towards the action rather than what that action will reward you with. The reality of this experience is very unnerving though because at first it feels like “ who am i? What’s the point? Who cares if i am already ok?”. 

I have been vegan for 5 years and extremely opposed to meat and now I feel neutral about it.This is new to me.  NOT apathetic, neutral. I truly care about animals , the environment, health, sustainability and supporting our movement towards caretaker roles for our planet. I still feel drawn to supporting this path.

When the momentum of choice is no longer against something or about being right, it is really disorienting because you feel for the first time 100 percent responsible for your choices. This has been very confusing for me this year though , like I have been tripped and have yet to find my grounding. In the confusion I tried a piece of fish and it hurt my throat and tasted gross and it felt like i just did drugs. The neutrality feels like it is opening up new curiosities around thriving on a plant based diet and I feel more open to asking a lot more questions because I like the path of it so much. I feel open to being wrong about some ideas around it because if moving towards a plant based diet is truly the optimal solution, it will continue to stand on it’s own. 

 

 I think that old soul manifestation is so terrifying because it truly feels like we are losing our definitions of self, most of us do not see how much identity we have wrapped up in pushing against things.  

If what we care about is authentic though, it is never lost...even if it is hard to trust that at first. 

Anyway,  beautiful session with Michael above. I really needed to hear that because this year has been a big fucking pile of confusion and learning to define myself in a way that feels very alien to me still, but also the only way that feels sane in my body.

love love.

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On 5/28/2016 at 7:08 AM, DanielaS said:

Old Souls within your world at this time are still manifesting a great deal of the self through Mature Soul contexts, so you will find many Old Souls still working through Mature Soul stances, not only because many Old Souls are manifesting at the Mature Soul Age, but also because this helps the process of the Mature Soul world to take root permanently. Part of the point of being an Old Soul is in use of the ability to manifest from any previous Soul Age as a means to relate to all aspects of the world. The dominant energy in the world for most at this time is the Mature Soul context, so many Old Souls will find themselves still very passionate about issues in which they would otherwise find neutrality (not indifference, but neutrality).

 

So in speaking about Old Souls, it makes sense to speak of them in terms of the Mature Soul at this time, which means that most will be contributing to any movement that is linked to the benefit of all. As long as the world is moving in the direction of Maturity, the active stance one takes on issues that inhibit compassion and freedom for all is quite important in terms of rooting Maturity in the world. No one is obligated to take a stance or to contribute to this rooting of Maturity, of course, but the contribution to this Maturity does accelerate for all, the more actively the species invests in those beliefs and lifestyles that benefit all.

 

This stance is not a confusing issue for the Mature Soul, but for the Old Soul, it can be confusing as he or she stands in support of the lifestyles and beliefs that support the benefit of all, but still feels a sense of higher perspective that trusts that all lifestyles and beliefs are valid, even if destructive, and will eventually be of benefit to all, anyway. The Mature Soul still knows how important it is to invest in the betterment of life on the Physical Plane, while many Old Souls can often forget the importance of that, since they are “leaving soon,” anyway.

 

Great reminder to stand firm!

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