Cadre 2, Entity 4

[Christina Lily Pedersen]

I'm searching for any information about Cadre 2, Entity 4. I am posting here after searching the database, I am not having any luck searching there ... (I can't find the function to make it search for the entire sentence, so it comes up with everything that has "cadre", "entity" or the numbers in it, and that is a lot .. maybe I am doing something wrong .. )

I found out yesterday that my mom is from this Cadre and Entity, and I read on another website that it is known as the Carl Sagan or Essence Twin "Contact" Entity, but that is all I could find.

Apart from that, I am also interested in some specific information that might explain why I have a mom that is so "far" from me. From what I have understood so far, we tend to make arrangements with other Essences from our own Cadre and Entity, which in my case is C1E3, and until I found out my mom wasn't, everyone around me has been from my Cadre and Entity.

I found this to be particularly interesting because my mom has always had a feeling of being "alone"; far from where she belongs.

Yesterday at her session, time ran out just when Michael was telling her, that even though her having no Essence Twin might account for her feelings of longing or even grief, there was another explanation for this .. 

I was thinking this might be it ...? But I just don't know what it will do to an Essence to be with a lot of people from a different Cadre and Entity ..

Either way, I was hoping someone might have some information :)

Thanks in advance!

 

 

[Yin-da]

We also make arrangements with Essences from other Cadres and Entities, I would think the set up just depends on what we are here for.

For instance my own family is a mix of this: Mother C3/E7, father C2/E4 (excarnated 2009), brother C2/E3, sister C3/E5, brother C3/E1, and me C1/E4.

And my sons C1/E4 and C1/3. We're all from either Cadre 1, 2 or 3 which are close to each other, but any Cadre and Entity closeness is no guarantee for not feeling alone, grieving, distance, not belonging and so on.

 

Edited August 16, 2016 by Ingun

[Troy]

@Christina Lily Pedersen, there isn't a lot of material on 2/4 so feel free to bring questions about this to the monthly Ask Michael. As for searching, note that you can change the area searched by changing the dropdown. You can also put your phrase in quotes to search the exact quote e.g. "cadre 2, entity 4". When you see your search results, you should see more tips below the search bar above the results. See images below.

 

 

 

[Guest Matt]

Ingun, my brother and my wife's grandmother are both Cadre 3 entity 5.  It would be interesting to get some channeling on the dynamic of picking family from different cadres, and weather it feels different at all.  

[Janet]

I, my parents, all my siblings and one of my daughters are from Cadre 2, but my other daughter is Cadre 3. Here is what Michael said at the time I found out about this:

 

[Note: Michael took an extended time to respond to my question about her cadre and entity.]

 

[MEntity]  The fragment in question appears to be of Cadre 3, Entity 6.

 

[Janet] Ah! So the first among my immediate family not from Cadre 2.

 

[MEntity]

We were having some trouble differentiating this fragment as Cadre 3 from Cadre 2, but this is because there appear to be a multitude of cords and resonance from this Essence to many from Cadre 2.

 

In further response to your choices for parent and child, we can say that your Essence was interested in expanding into greater depth of relationship with some from Cadre 3 who had come to be close in previous lives.

 

This is not unusual.  By the time one is an Old Soul, many of the important, classic, and profound relationships that come as blood family are now established and no longer require blood as a means for rekindling bonds, so the older soul tends to build blood family with those who are farther out from the circle of familiarity, so to speak.

[Christina Lily Pedersen]

1 hour ago, Ingun said:

We also make arrangements with Essences from other Cadres and Entities, I would think the set up just depends on what we are here for.

For instance my own family is a mix of this: Mother C3/E7, father C2/E4 (excarnated 2009), brother C2/E3, sister C3/E5, brother C3/E1, and me C1/E4.

And my sons C1/E4 and C1/3. We're all from either Cadre 1, 2 or 3 which are close to each other, but any Cadre and Entity closeness is no guarantee for not feeling alone, grieving, distance, not belonging and so on.

 

Ahh, so that's really very varied! And that is probably not what Michael was referring to in the session, then! Than you, Ingun!

[Nicko]

3 hours ago, Ingun said:

We also make arrangements with Essences from other Cadres and Entities, I would think the set up just depends on what we are here for.

For instance my own family is a mix of this: Mother C3/E7, father C2/E4 (excarnated 2009), brother C2/E3, sister C3/E5, brother C3/E1, and me C1/E4.

And my sons C1/E4 and C1/3. We're all from either Cadre 1, 2 or 3 which are close to each other, but any Cadre and Entity closeness is no guarantee for not feeling alone, grieving, distance, not belonging and so on.

 

I recently learned that my uncle in denmark is C3/E7 and that his gf and her son are C3/E5 :) The C3's are with us! .. in a mature kinda way for most parts :#
oh, they're all warriors aswell, which I found kinda surprising =P

[Christina Lily Pedersen]

1 hour ago, Nicko said:

I recently learned that my uncle in denmark is C3/E7 and that his gf and her son are C3/E5 :) The C3's are with us! .. in a mature kinda way for most parts :#
oh, they're all warriors aswell, which I found kinda surprising =P

So what is really weird is that everyone around me is C1E3 and not that my mom isn't, I can tell from these different answers ..

But everyone around me is C1E3! :D 

[Christina Lily Pedersen]

Thank you, @Troy! That's yet another thing I can't find, when the next Ask Michael is? Not in the session tracker section? :/

[Troy]

2 hours ago, Christina Lily Pedersen said:

Thank you, @Troy! That's yet another thing I can't find, when the next Ask Michael is? Not in the session tracker section? :/

It already happened this month, so it won't show up again until I set up September's calendar. I'm waiting for the "repeat events" option for our community so I don't have to do it every month, but until I get that, I have manually set up the calendar every month. Bleh.

[Mike Cleverly]

During a session with Michael via Troy They told me that the comedian Louis CK was from C2E4:

 

Louis CK: 2nd Level Old Scholar, Warrior Cast

[Yin-da]

6 hours ago, Nicko said:

I recently learned that my uncle in denmark is C3/E7 and that his gf and her son are C3/E5 :) The C3's are with us! .. in a mature kinda way for most parts :#
oh, they're all warriors aswell, which I found kinda surprising =P

 

My sister in C3/E5 is also a Warrior! with Server casting and Mature 5th. 

And I remembered now that the father of my sons are from the same Entity as my sister, a Scholar/King casting.

And to make it even more amusing; my father from C2/E4 was also a Scholar with King casting!

Edited August 16, 2016 by Ingun

[Jana]

9 hours ago, Janet said:

I, my parents, all my siblings and one of my daughters are from Cadre 2, but my other daughter is Cadre 3. Here is what Michael said at the time I found out about this:

 

[Note: Michael took an extended time to respond to my question about her cadre and entity.]

 

[MEntity]  The fragment in question appears to be of Cadre 3, Entity 6.

 

[Janet] Ah! So the first among my immediate family not from Cadre 2.

 

[MEntity]

We were having some trouble differentiating this fragment as Cadre 3 from Cadre 2, but this is because there appear to be a multitude of cords and resonance from this Essence to many from Cadre 2.

 

In further response to your choices for parent and child, we can say that your Essence was interested in expanding into greater depth of relationship with some from Cadre 3 who had come to be close in previous lives.

 

This is not unusual.  By the time one is an Old Soul, many of the important, classic, and profound relationships that come as blood family are now established and no longer require blood as a means for rekindling bonds, so the older soul tends to build blood family with those who are farther out from the circle of familiarity, so to speak.

 

Janet, this is very similar to what I have had channeled about my family. I know overleaves of my mum, both my kids, my sister, blood family wise. Me, and all but sister are from Cadre 2. Sister is cadre 3. Also my ex husband is Cadre 2. And I seem to have special ties with C2/E6 in particular (your Entity :)) . Originally I was even channeled to be from it - by Michael Toth - as you might remember. Troy later channeled me as C2E2, and said my Essence Twin is from C2E6 (discarnate). Perhaps this threw Michael Toth? Also my mum and boyfriend are both from C2E6.

[Christina Lily Pedersen]

@Mike CleverlyYes, I saw that part .. but I don't know him .. there is also another (presumably) celebrity on the list here, whom I also didn't know .. 

I will bring this to Ask Michael :D

[Oscar]

My parents are from 6/1 and 5/2 (no siblings), so also quite "far" from 1/3 ?

As a matter of fact, at the moment I'm not aware of any nearby family member being from 1/3 ?

[Sonny]

Hi  Christina,

 

Going by memory, other well-known fragments of C2, E4 are:

 

1. American comedian Chris Rock. If you get a chance to watch the film "Dogma," do so; it's both quite profane and amusing. Chris Rock plays the thirteenth Apostle.

 

2. Boss of the Italian-American crime family the Gambinos, John Gotti.

 

3. American avant-garde artist John Cage.

 

4. And me. I'm not famous at all. I'm basically a hermit in a regional town somewhere in Australia...

Edited November 7, 2016 by Sonny
Forgot to add a name to post.

[Hjortur]

This is the first time I hear about C2E4 being named after Carl Sagan. He is the one that has influenced me the most spiritually. I followed his Cosmos series in 1980 and the philosophy of the series has stayed with me ever since. John Cage is an old favorite also, I really enjoyed his eccentricity. I shall look up Chirs Rock, I had never heard of him before. But Carl Sagan, nice...!  

Here is one of my favorites.

 

I am C2E4 also although not famous either... but we do not need to be, it's common experience after all.

[Sonny]

Lois CK is one of ours?

 

Oh.

 

I find him terribly unfunny... ☹️

[Michèle]

Hi all, 

I am very interested in this discussion because Shepherd channelled me in Cadre 4/Entity 4, but he added that some refer to this Cadre as 2, not 4. Does anybody know whether Michael's numbering through Shepherd corresponds to Cadre 2 through Troy? I would really appreciate any shared inputs because I would love to meet Cadre and Entity mates, I am incredibly curious to find out what it 'feels like' to meet them. I have to add that I have no vital stats of my family as of yet, so it is entirely possible that our clan shares Cadres and Entities too. Please do let me know, don't be shy??

[AnnaD]

Hi Michele, 

 

Troy and Shepherd use different cadre and entity numbering systems. When Troy channels someone as being from C2E4, it is probably quite different to who Shepherd refers to when Shepherd is referring to Shepherd's C2E4, if that makes sense. I would not know how to reconcile the numbering systems, but I favour Troy's channelling more so I am comfortable with that. Maybe someone else here can respond more clearly to your question...

[Janet]

39 minutes ago, Michèle said:

Does anybody know whether Michael's numbering through Shepherd corresponds to Cadre 2 through Troy?

The correlation between Shepherd's numbering and numbering received through Troy (and in fact through most channels) isn't exact. But I'm pretty sure that Shepherd's Cadre 4 is (almost) always Cadre 2 outside of his system. Shepherd initially channeled me as Cadre 4 Entity 6; I'm Cadre 2 Entity 6 via Troy. 

[Michèle]

Thank you so much for your quick reply, @Janet, it's wonderful to meet a Cadre Mate! 

I suspected that they probably correlate because reading about Cadre 2 and the mention that one of their focus is colour and light did strike a cord. I love colours, and I often say something along the lines that "The world is not black and white, and it's not gray. It is full of colours!" Something I have recently become very interested in are the 'Rays' - and they are all colour and light. 

Thank you again ?

[Michèle]

Hi @AnnaD,

thank you for your reply to my cadre question, apologies for the late response, I was using my mobile and only saw your post now ?. I was channelled as 4/4, with a note that some other channels call this Cadre 2. At some point, I will confirm with Troy.

[John Roth]

On 2/17/2018 at 2:24 PM, Janet said:

The correlation between Shepherd's numbering and numbering received through Troy (and in fact through most channels) isn't exact. But I'm pretty sure that Shepherd's Cadre 4 is (almost) always Cadre 2 outside of his system. Shepherd initially channeled me as Cadre 4 Entity 6; I'm Cadre 2 Entity 6 via Troy. 

 

The correlation between Shepherd's system and what most other channels use is very simple for the first six cadres or so - just subtract 2. It gets a bit more complex later because of some cadres being cycled off,

 

The complete table for the entire energy ring is in one of the articles on Dave's site.

[bkraft]

On 2/17/2018 at 2:24 PM, Janet said:

The correlation between Shepherd's numbering and numbering received through Troy (and in fact through most channels) isn't exact. But I'm pretty sure that Shepherd's Cadre 4 is (almost) always Cadre 2 outside of his system. Shepherd initially channeled me as Cadre 4 Entity 6; I'm Cadre 2 Entity 6 via Troy. 

Yea, I was channeled as Cadre 4 /Entity 6  via Shepherd's numbering and based on the minus 2 math that potentially puts me in Cadre 2/Entity 6 with @Janet (and others, lolz)